Indonesian War of Independence - COLD WAR DOCUMENTARY

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The Cold War

The Cold War

4 жыл бұрын

Our series on the history of the Cold War period continues with a documentary on the history of Indonesia after World War II. This video will focus on the Indonesian War of Independence.
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@TheColdWarTV
@TheColdWarTV 4 жыл бұрын
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@cjthegood
@cjthegood 4 жыл бұрын
You have covered Malaysia and Indonesia, what about the Philippines? US granted independence in 1946, then the Huk rebellion and the Philippines' contribution to the Korean War. Maybe during the times between the end of WW2 to the start of the presidency of Ferdinand Marcos.
@sandiucukertz93
@sandiucukertz93 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, cant wait for 1965 episode :)
@LukeVilent
@LukeVilent 4 жыл бұрын
Will you also cover the story of sovietization of Baltic Countries? Effectively the dissolution of the USSR started with them, and the reason why it started exactly there lies in WWII and Potsdam era.
@InspectHistory
@InspectHistory 4 жыл бұрын
Yuk support guys :) Mimin approved this :D
@yukito_066
@yukito_066 4 жыл бұрын
Can you do an episode on G30S/PKI
@gilbertplays
@gilbertplays 4 жыл бұрын
Indonesia: Help! The Dutch are taking over. US: Can't, busy rebuilding Europe. Indonesia: But I hate communism! US: hold my freedom money.
@mustthopasultanovachalih2843
@mustthopasultanovachalih2843 4 жыл бұрын
Rusia have jossev stalin Indonesia have dipa nusantara aidit
@elmermatthew6796
@elmermatthew6796 4 жыл бұрын
Nah, Indonesia would join the eastern block had US ignored them. We, Indonesians, don't mind about it as long as we can preserve justice and sovereignty.
@farhanatashiga3721
@farhanatashiga3721 4 жыл бұрын
Pretty much yeah, lol.
@DBT1007
@DBT1007 4 жыл бұрын
No actually. At that time Indonesia is neutral. Indonesia didn't hate communism at that time. But because at that time USA is superpower and kinda kind, soo yeah.. Indonesia kinda love the west world But then betrayed and change alignment to the east block, the soviet. But later they also betrayed by communism. And finally Indonesia choose to be neutral
@elmermatthew6796
@elmermatthew6796 4 жыл бұрын
@@DBT1007 Indonesia wasnt betrayed by PKI. PKI dikambing hitamkan sama CIA/MI6/Soehartolol.
@goldenfiberwheat238
@goldenfiberwheat238 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine living in Western Europe in 1939, surviving the entire war, maybe fighting in your country’s resistance, only to die being drafted after the war to fight in some far off colonial uprising, essentially fighting against the very thing you’d been fighting for (liberation from foreign occupation) for the past 6 years
@toukairin354
@toukairin354 4 жыл бұрын
Post 1945, many of the KL (Dutch Army) personnel coming to Indonesia (Dutch East Indies) were conscripts, basically forced into service in a place they're unfamiliar with. Some also were enticed with promise of scholarships and such after finishing their service in the DEI.
@kykale
@kykale 4 жыл бұрын
Well there were people that refused to fight called “Indië weigeraars” and persons like Ponke Princen who ran over to the Indonesian side of the war.
@toukairin354
@toukairin354 4 жыл бұрын
@@kykale yes. but it's not the norm. Some KNIL units even "absorbs" the mockery at them, as in the case of "Andjing NICA" (Netherland Indies Civil Administration 's Dog) which were adopted as the unit's official emblem. I forgot the unit, 1-5 RI infantry? Gotta check the archive. The unit's personnel includes people from eastern part of NEIndies, loyal to the Dutch.
@kebabboi4234
@kebabboi4234 4 жыл бұрын
basically the french soldiers after ww2 in a nutshell
@kykale
@kykale 4 жыл бұрын
@@toukairin354 I know it's not the norm, but for a lot veterans there was a sense of confusion why they were reoccupying after most have experienced the liberation from Nazi Germany. I try to get insight into the history from personal experiences through memoires, interviews and documentaries. Here in the Netherlands, most people who were in the KNIL or at least their children, don't ever talk about their experiences mostly because of the horrible experiences. There isn't a pride in fighting the war. The war is what Vietnam is too the US, although more forgotten. From what I experience from the stories of former Moluccan KNIL soldiers is that they despise the Dutch government for not keeping their promises.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 4 жыл бұрын
As a Dutch history teacher I am making effort to teach this piece of Dutch history to my pupils. Thanks for covering!
@darnit1944
@darnit1944 4 жыл бұрын
@jpc1918 In a history textbook, i remember a paragraph, and i quote "The Japanese were even more ruthless and sadistic compared to the colonial Dutch. However that does not mean the Indonesian people prefer under Dutch rule than Japanese rule." It still made me chuckle to this day. Especially the "prefer Dutch rule over Japanese"
@TheTamaJustice
@TheTamaJustice 4 жыл бұрын
jpc1918 Brutal Dutch colonial reign, followed by a brutal Japanese brutal occupation...followed by another brutal invasion by the Dutch...followed by a...yeah, okay you get it.
@KofteG61
@KofteG61 4 жыл бұрын
@jpc1918 Nothing about the war was covered in my school. Most people I know still don't know anything about this war. Only that the Japanese had concentration camps.
@sandervr10
@sandervr10 4 жыл бұрын
I think it's very strange there's almost nothing in Dutch history school books over the end of more then 300 years of colonial rule of Indonesia...
@winjiro106
@winjiro106 4 жыл бұрын
As Indonesian i thank the Dutch for unifying Indonesia's Archipelago, so we become a great country (in the region). Remember: chain events in history make us breath and alive today
@risannd
@risannd 4 жыл бұрын
Some perspective from Indonesian here: 1. Although Indonesians won the war, they suffers military losses more than they winning. This is not taught in our curriculum. They just stated that "We won through military struggles and clever diplomacy." 2. We often calls our neighbor Malaysia for being coward since they gained independence from the British by peaceful means, even as far calling them as "giveaway country". 3. Although both advocate for the independence of Indonesia, duo Sukarno and Hatta had different views. Sukarno, a Javanese majority, calls for more centralized state and national unity. Hatta, a Minangese minority, wants Indonesia to become a federal state, to please ethnic minorities. These differences led to resignation of Hatta as vice president in 1956. 4. The initial peace treaty in 1949 (Round Table Conference) still favors Dutch a lot. It preserves United States of Indonesia with Republic of Indonesia in it (in Renville borders), and served status as a dominion of Dutch Empire (Indonesian-Dutch Union), with the Dutch Queen as its leader. The Dutch also keeps West Papua. 5. Despite of that, we quickly overturned the unequal treaties in a decade. Republic of Indonesia re-emerged in 1950 with its full borders, excluding West Papua. Dominion status is abolished in 1956. Dutch assets in Indonesia were taken in late 1950s. West Papua is taken back in 1963. We actually lost the battle, but eventually winning with the diplomatic help of United States. 6. At the moment of independence, some areas are still ruled by local kingdoms, some loyal to the Dutch. Sultan Hamengkubuwono IX, one of the local kings, pledge allegiance to the republic early on. As a result of his goodwill, the Indonesian government allowed him to rule his kingdom, as long as he is loyal to the republic. This kingdom still survives to this day, and it's the only one held real power. It's the Sultanate of Yogyakarta.
@oddballsok
@oddballsok 4 жыл бұрын
@ excel coanda really ? "West Papua is taken back in 1963. "..take BACK ?? The papuans are not indonesians, malayu, etc... and they NEVER wanted to be under indonesian control..this sentiment lingers on today..
@risannd
@risannd 4 жыл бұрын
"Taken back", again by the perspective of Indonesian. They claimed it due to Indonesia as a successor state to Dutch East Indies, thus have rights for all its terrritory. Sure we've treated them badly for the last 40 years. We forced them an "Act of Free Choice" for extra legitimacy of integration, although the referendum itself is still questionable. We invited an American company to West Papua's gold mine for the sake of corporate greed. We shoot at independence insurgents there, and barred journalists from enter. Although currently our government tried to improved life there, such as building infrastructure and so on, the debate persists. Indonesians itself, ths government, media, and the people, tries to accept West Papuans as brothers. Any attempts at West Papuan independence is viewed as "Western plot to secure natural resources", same as what happened to East Timor 20 years earlier.
@dickyadhadyanto4986
@dickyadhadyanto4986 4 жыл бұрын
@@oddballsok they are not dutch either. what is an indonesian exactly? it's someone who live in the country, it's not a thing to describe an ethnicity or race. but Indonesia sure has a legitimate claim over west papua since people there already speaking bahasa indonesia and historicaly before the dutch came they were already ruled by the majapahit, ternate sultanate and tidore sultanate. so taking them back is a correct term to describe it. it was owned by a lot of indonesian kingdoms back then.
@zerosuitsamus2340
@zerosuitsamus2340 4 жыл бұрын
1946 Massacers. We will never forgive it
@DBT1007
@DBT1007 4 жыл бұрын
About the Yogyakarta in there is wrong in the end part. Aceh is also given the special status. Aceh also have sultanate system.
@nishhnishh1088
@nishhnishh1088 4 жыл бұрын
Long live Indonesia from Rajasthan🇮🇳. We were ancient brothers. Thanks for keeping sanskrit alive and Ramayana culture 🙏🏽
@erwinmixing2988
@erwinmixing2988 4 жыл бұрын
Dude, that’s like... 1700 years ago 🤯 Time sure past eh
@TheJnr12
@TheJnr12 4 жыл бұрын
Indonesia and india have so much history relation, our culture have much influence from india even until now...
@HFDLI
@HFDLI 4 жыл бұрын
There's little india at medan city sumatera indonesia. Where many indian immigran from hundred years ago live there.
@raihanadinugroho4405
@raihanadinugroho4405 4 жыл бұрын
Love India from Indonesia too
@vernandozs1888
@vernandozs1888 4 жыл бұрын
Many of our national mottos at government institutions derived from sanskrit language and I would argue that 30% of our national Lang of Indonesia consisted of Sanskrit Lang. And our very national ideology is the coat of arms wear by might Demigod Garuda, God Vishnu Mythical bird?
@far_centrist
@far_centrist 4 жыл бұрын
Like most asian/eastern european languages, indonesian use the IPA pronounciations. So c in pancasila is read like "ch" instead of "k".
@vanderpraast4938
@vanderpraast4938 4 жыл бұрын
Good knowlrdge!!👍🏽🙏🏽
@Awootistic
@Awootistic 4 жыл бұрын
As an Indon, I felt physical pain when he said Pankasila.
@Pfyzer
@Pfyzer 4 жыл бұрын
@@Awootistic indon? 😡 we call ourselves Indos NOT, and NEVER, Indon. The term is used to mock the people of Indonesia used a lot during war times.🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
@teukufadel8293
@teukufadel8293 4 жыл бұрын
@@Pfyzer let's just say that person doesn't really learn things much
@yazramohammad3428
@yazramohammad3428 4 жыл бұрын
Wkwk pankasila
@TheAmubis
@TheAmubis 4 жыл бұрын
Indonesia, shouting "OK, Boomer" to the elder since 1945.
@isyalfachrulwafi8151
@isyalfachrulwafi8151 4 жыл бұрын
Noice
@WhosManIsThis
@WhosManIsThis 4 жыл бұрын
Basically
@andromaxbse6459
@andromaxbse6459 4 жыл бұрын
@Kuroi Karasu 2019?
@raisyahalida4616
@raisyahalida4616 4 жыл бұрын
Yes
@ZulRf
@ZulRf 4 жыл бұрын
LMAO
@nikolamilosevski6424
@nikolamilosevski6424 4 жыл бұрын
The Dutch and Brits didn't like being occupied by Germany, but they like to occupy other parts of the world. Hypocrisy level 999999999999.....
@stafer3
@stafer3 4 жыл бұрын
Unless you’re one of those countries that ethnically cleansed their territory to be homogeneous, I’m pretty sure that you have many groups in your country that don’t want to be ruled by your government. I could literally extend your line of thinking, Indonesians didn’t want to be ruled by Dutch, yet they have no problem to rule over minorities that want to be independent. You are always “filthy rebel traitor” until you succeed and become country. Then former government becomes “evil oppressor” and people who want independence in your country are “filthy rebel traitors”.
@adinnaikhwani6255
@adinnaikhwani6255 4 жыл бұрын
@@stafer3 bla bla bla TRY TO BE IN INDONESIA FROM 1800 TO 1940, FEEL IT TO BECOME WORSE THAN 3RD WORLD COUNTRY'S CITIZEN
@stafer3
@stafer3 4 жыл бұрын
@@adinnaikhwani6255 I guess try to be east Timor then? You are no different to Dutch. See only what suits you and everyone else is not that important. Are you telling me there is no one under your rule that wants to be independent? No separatists? No independence movement. No groups that don’t want to be under your government?
@adinnaikhwani6255
@adinnaikhwani6255 4 жыл бұрын
@@stafer3 LOL, EAST TIMOR/TIMOR LESTE WAS BEING FORCED TO BE INDONESIAN BECAUSE OF AMERICA/AUSTRALIA DID NOT WANT TIMOR LESTE TO BECOME "COMMUNIST", IDIOT FRETLIN ONCE WAS A COMMUNIST GROUP, AT THE SAME TIME SOME TIMOR LESTE PEOPLE WANTED TO BE PART OF INDONESIA, OF COURSE INDONESIA MUST ANSWER THAT "WITH A BRUTE FORCE" BECAUSE AMERICA ARE ALSO DID NOT WANT TO TURN TIMOR LESTE TO BE ANOTHER COMMUNIST, WHILE IN SEA, VIETNAM AND LAOS ARE ALREADY AT THE STATE TO BECOME "COMMUNIST" COUNTRY OMG, WHAT AN IDIOT YOU ONLY SEE IT BY WESTERN EYES, NOT THE LOCAL ONE SO STUPID THAT YOU MAKE INDONESIA LOOK LIKE NETHERLAND?? WKWKWKWKWK THAT'S IDIOT IDIOM EVER, IDIOT COMPARISON IN THE FIRST PLACE, LOOK AT THE PEOPLE ITSELF, ALL OF THEM FOUGHT TOGETHER AGAINST NETHERLAND, AND YEAH, THERE'S A SEPARATIST MOVEMENT BUT MOST OF THEM BECAUSE OF IDEOLOGY, AND TODAY THERE'S LITTLE TO NOTHING THAT SO-CALLED "SEPARATIST", MAYBE FEW BUT MOST OF THEM ARE FINE BEING ONE AND BECOME INDONESIA IN CASE OF PAPUA, MOST WESTERN SAID, "GENOCIDE OF PAPUAN" BUT UNTIL TODAY, THERE'S PAPUAN THAT THE POPULATION IS 5 MILLION, "MORE THAN ABORIGIN IN AUSTRALIA", SO FUNNY THAT THE "GENOCIDED" PEOPLE OR THE PAPUAN ARE HAVING SOME EDUCATION IN MAIN ISLAND JAVA, AUSTRALIA, NEW ZEALAND, EVEN GO TO AMERICA AND EUROPE, SO WEIRD.... HOW ABOUT AUSTRALIA? OH WELL, "THE GENOCIDE OF ABORIGIN" IN WHICH MADE THE POPULATION OF ABORIGIN BECOME LESS THAN 1% BEING ALWAYS "COVER" OR CLOSED BY WESTERN BECAUSE IT WAS LITERALY "TRUE GENOCIDE" YOU KNOW WHY INDONESIA IS MAKING JAPAN" THEIR BEST FRIEND" DESPITE BEING THE WORST COLONIZER EVER THAT LED TO 4 MILLION DEADS? BECAUSE OF THEIR TREATMENT TO LOCAL PEOPLE "GOV'T" POWER SO DIFFERENT WITH WESTERN ALWAYS PREFER TO ENRICHING THEMSELF, THAT'S WHY *VOC* CAN BECOME NO.1 "THE LARGEST COMPANY" IN THE WORLD THAT UNTIL TODAY NO ONE CAN COMPETE IT, SO MUCH THAT WESTERN ITSELF TAUGHT THE LOCAL "HOW TO CORRUPT THEMSELF WITH MONEY", STUFF LIKE THIS NEVER ONCE BEING COME UP TO THE LOCAL AND YOU SHOULD KNOW WHY OTHER SEA COUNTRY LIKE VIETNAM IS FIGHTING FRANCE WAY CRAZIER THAN FIGHTING AMERICA, "BECAUSE THEY FOUGHT AGAINST COLONIZER" IS THE SIMPLIEST ANSWER
@adinnaikhwani6255
@adinnaikhwani6255 4 жыл бұрын
@@stafer3 so please, dumb idiot, look again in timor leste, WHY AT THAT TIME, SOME OF THEIR PEOPLE IS DOING "CIVIL WAR" AFTER PORTUGESE WITHDRAW FROM THEM?
@karimodang5660
@karimodang5660 4 жыл бұрын
My grandad fought in the war of Indonesian independence as a student troops( tentara pelajar). he lost many of his friends during a battle near bandung.. people talks about 'losing the battle', 'diplomacy maneuvers', american helps etc, but mind you there's actually thousands of our forefathers laid down their life for our better ones.. during the colonial times Indonesians was treated like slaves, look at Daendel's road, from Anyer to Panarukan road, thousands of life was lost because of force labor, Raymond Westerling's massacre of the local at Celebes, yet it was barely mentioned in any history books. as losing battles, is so much can be done by sharpened bamboos and old mannlicher carbines against modern weaponry, thus we relied heavily on guerrilla warfare.. Us Indonesian manage to sit the dutch in a conferences as equal to do the diplomacy maneuvers for the first time in history itself was gained through the blood and sweat of our fallen heroes.. May Their souls rests in peace.. and may peace be forever be in Indonesia..
@thenasiudk1337
@thenasiudk1337 4 жыл бұрын
Respect
@abu.bugatti
@abu.bugatti 4 жыл бұрын
I was born in Padang and brought to Australia and raised here since I was a baby, I am an Australian by default and I am happy and greatful to live here in Sydney. BUT I AM PROUD OF MY INDONESIAN HERITAGE AND THE WAY I LOOK !! I've always have said it, if I grew up in Indonesia. I would of joined the army and laid my life down for the country and people, just like our forefathers before me. 🇮🇩 This video made me feel proud. Thanks you great motherfuckers. 🇦🇺
@crabgaming4228
@crabgaming4228 4 жыл бұрын
I live in Bandung
@raditya5663
@raditya5663 4 жыл бұрын
Altough maybe we defaeted in battle but in the table we won
@GAMSON090
@GAMSON090 4 жыл бұрын
Ini materi yg diajarin di sekolah doang nih
@KalityDsgn
@KalityDsgn 4 жыл бұрын
3:03 Generational divide, huh? Golongan Tua : The transition needs to be gradual and we need to discuss about the proclamation with PPKI first Pemuda : Ok boomer
@TSUG0MU
@TSUG0MU 4 жыл бұрын
Funny how those pemuda now become boomer
@KalityDsgn
@KalityDsgn 4 жыл бұрын
@@TSUG0MU TRUE! xD
@KalityDsgn
@KalityDsgn 4 жыл бұрын
@@TSUG0MU In fact, they are the *true* boomer
@WhosManIsThis
@WhosManIsThis 4 жыл бұрын
This shit so meta lmayo
@zainiadnan2335
@zainiadnan2335 4 жыл бұрын
Dude, that line stab deep 😂
@louiebunbun
@louiebunbun Жыл бұрын
As an Indonesian I'm pretty surprised that I'm still missing some historical information despite I learnt history at school for 9 years! That's how messed up the way government both archived and "shape up" our history to younger generations. This is such a good and entertaining our nation's historical video. Also I gave you appreciation to pronounce older Indonesian names and just to help you out, "Pancasila" is pronounced as "pun-cha-see-lah".
@ReySchultz121
@ReySchultz121 Жыл бұрын
1. Our all mighty Lord 2. Fair & civilized humanity 3. Indonesian Unity 4. A people that are lead by a wise leader in a representative deliberation 5. Social justice for all the citizens of Indonesia
@miguelmontenegro3520
@miguelmontenegro3520 4 жыл бұрын
Britain's colonialism level: Maintaining Others empires
@persimmon93
@persimmon93 4 жыл бұрын
US->UK->Netherlands.
@galihpambudi1494
@galihpambudi1494 4 жыл бұрын
Some rock in the sea *exsist* British empire: "mine! mine! mine!" :v 😂
@professionaldisappointment1654
@professionaldisappointment1654 4 жыл бұрын
@@galihpambudi1494 like the ol saying,the sun never sets on the british empire
@arthas640
@arthas640 4 жыл бұрын
@DiscordChaos it really had more to do with trying to prevent a domino effect of seceding colonies than maintaining the Dutch colonial empire. The Brits were busy with the Malayan Emergency right around the same time, not to mention countless other rebellions.
@theasianboy315
@theasianboy315 4 жыл бұрын
*Good Guy British* : Helping Netherlands maintaining his colony But for Indonesia *Scumbag British* : Come to Indonesia after Japan surrender Not for acknowledge Indonesia,but for helping Netherlands reacquired his former colony
@bidgsadge7758
@bidgsadge7758 4 жыл бұрын
Did Japanesse liberates Indonesia? Literally every Indonesian : well no, but actually no
@oneotuvalev9297
@oneotuvalev9297 4 жыл бұрын
@Real messyEstate it was US Nuke that liberates literally 1/3 of the world...so...
@darrentheodore9084
@darrentheodore9084 4 жыл бұрын
excellent grammar you got there
@wenwenny
@wenwenny 4 жыл бұрын
Real messyEstate as an indonesian, i must say that comparing the dutch era with the japanese era, you can see the difference. My grandmother told me that the japanese era was one of the harshest and brutal era Indonesia has ever experienced.
@bidgsadge7758
@bidgsadge7758 4 жыл бұрын
@@wenwenny you know i am an Indonesian, i understand dude
@bidgsadge7758
@bidgsadge7758 4 жыл бұрын
@@oneotuvalev9297 good motives, still war crimes
@ROFusion
@ROFusion 4 жыл бұрын
It's both disturbing and fascinating to learn the detailed histories of countries who celebrated their liberation from Axis occupation by more or less behaving like Axis powers towards other countries seeking liberation. The Dutch in Indonesia, the French in Vietnam, the Chinese in Tibet, etc. These complex narratives are why it's impractical to ever see a country as being exclusively heroic or villainous.
@fiartruck0125
@fiartruck0125 2 жыл бұрын
When you put it that way it reminds me of Jesus' parable from Matthew 18:21-35! (The Parable of the Unforgiving Servant)
@Pandamo
@Pandamo 9 ай бұрын
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@nerobeyo2
@nerobeyo2 4 жыл бұрын
Indonesians: "It's over, Dutch!" Dutch: *"Oh the doubting! I said I have a plan!"*
@meggiliem9736
@meggiliem9736 4 жыл бұрын
@M Revalino U gonna taste the Bamboo Runcing 😂 I'm dying
@nerobeyo2
@nerobeyo2 4 жыл бұрын
@M Revalino wkwkwkwkwkwkwkwkwk
@oneotuvalev9297
@oneotuvalev9297 4 жыл бұрын
Surakarta Sultanate: have some goddamned faith! Yogyakarta Sultanate:
@awddfg
@awddfg 4 жыл бұрын
*_America: no_*
@dutchplanderlinde218
@dutchplanderlinde218 4 жыл бұрын
@M Revalino his comment was a reference to rdr 2
@Meg13Crossheart
@Meg13Crossheart 4 жыл бұрын
My great uncle died in one of the great local battles, the Puputan Battle of Bali, 'puputan' translates to 'to the ends' so as my dad told the story to me, everyone there was ready to die and gave it their all straight to the end. He died a brave soldier, fighting for his family. My dad was born in 1950, and he had 9 older siblings already, they experienced life during this time and it was ingrained in him to be thankful of the sacrifice my great uncle did. We still keep his portrait in our prayer room.
@darwinqpenaflorida3797
@darwinqpenaflorida3797 Жыл бұрын
In November 24,1949 during the Indonesia War of Independence, Philippines was one of the supporters of Indonesia because we are friends and brothers in one flesh and blood and So they did, the same day the diplomatic relations between Philippines and Indonesia was born and remained uninterrupted for more than 73 years until today which is contributions of economy, trade, security defense and others The man behind the recognized Indonesia Sovereignty is Philippine President Elpidio Quirino who hailed as “Father of Philippine-Indonesia Relations” and he was the first Philippine President to visit Indonesia in 1950 This year, Philippines-Indonesia Relations is now 73 years 🇵🇭❤️🇮🇩
@myronsoeqinah1966
@myronsoeqinah1966 4 жыл бұрын
Poncke Princen was a Dutch army recrute who switched sides in the Indonesian war of independence. He thought the war was wrong and didn't want to die in a far away colony. On a day he walked through the barracks shouting ''FIREARM INSPECTION!''. All the Dutch soldiers gave their firearms to him for inspection. After he got all the firearms he switched sides. My greatgrandfather was there back then (he wasn't amused back then}. Poncke Princen never returned back to The Netherlands. He is still hated among Dutch veterans. However he died some years ago.
@papakojir4825
@papakojir4825 4 жыл бұрын
great documentary as always, it is quite rare seeing indonesia war of independence material done in english very well done it seems you struggle saying pancasila. you said the pan correctly but i saw you tried to spell the ca like in pancake, you should spell the ca like in "charge" and the sila i think you said good enough waiting for your next video
@InspectHistory
@InspectHistory 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing Content, hopefully many Indonesian watch this content as well ;)
@papakojir4825
@papakojir4825 4 жыл бұрын
@@InspectHistory thank you, definitely would promote this channel
@Zervoich
@Zervoich 3 жыл бұрын
Wow inspect history
@jaig
@jaig Жыл бұрын
"Pancha-sheel !" Got it. Thanks.
@amendus
@amendus 4 жыл бұрын
My ex her grandparents met in a Indonesian concentration camp. The grandmother cried when she talked about it. They actually met eachother there. She told me about the constant hunger and the brutal treatment of the japanese. All because they suspected that they worked with the Dutch before the start of the war. After the war they moved to the Netherlands since Sukarno's regime saw them as traitors. It was not their choice to go into a camp.
@KoffeeDoggo1146
@KoffeeDoggo1146 4 жыл бұрын
Indonesian struggle for independence is the least talked outside our own country. But hearing others talking about it felt quite fenomenal.
@whm_w8833
@whm_w8833 4 жыл бұрын
The best US intervention: cancel your Marshall Plan money. Lol
@theonerecker5245
@theonerecker5245 4 жыл бұрын
David Pham don’t wanna fight in the Korean war? We’ll stop your Marshall money
@slavvodkaman9359
@slavvodkaman9359 4 жыл бұрын
Le* Dutch: What? Your promise me....
@awddfg
@awddfg 4 жыл бұрын
*_Netherlands, stop or I'll cancel your membership._*
@arthas640
@arthas640 4 жыл бұрын
@@theonerecker5245 did the US actually extort any real support from anyone using the Marshal Plan when it came to Korea? Most countries sent support either because they were allied with south Korea (US, UK, Canada, Australia, Thailand) and/or because the UN was backing south Korea (rest of Europe). The Netherlands only sent about 800 men compared to the US's 327,000 Canada's 8100, or even Thailand's 1300. For a good idea of how little support the Dutch sent, Ethiopia, a fairly poor African nation without any serious ties to South Korea, sent about 1300 men, more than one and a half times as many men despite having an economy roughly 1/10th the size.
@barry.b.bensonjr
@barry.b.bensonjr 4 жыл бұрын
Well without marshall plan they can bankrupt allowing uprising and you guess it....Communist take over lol
@harunsuaidi7349
@harunsuaidi7349 4 жыл бұрын
Indonesians here. I never realized how much of a mess we were. We love to talk about national unity-our official motto is "unity in diversity-so we tend to talk about our nation as one, united nation who manage to take and retain independence through series of struggle against foreign powers. We don't often talk about divisions and infighting or even the fact that some people back then didn't like the idea of independence. We did fight bravely, but the fate of a nation is intertwined with other nations. Fighting alone didn't win us independence. We are always affected by decisions made by other countries. Whenever I learn about my country's history, I can't help but think that Indonesia as an unfinished story. Against all odds, we are united. Nearly 300 millions of people in thousands of islands with different languages and culture, united under a single national identity. It's almost surreal. Will it change in the future? Possibly. Is it bad? As strongly as I feel about my beloved country, the honest answer is "not necessarily". Nothing lasts forever. Good times and hard times come and go. We don't know what is the right side of history when we are in the middle of the history.
@muh.awaluddin7893
@muh.awaluddin7893 3 жыл бұрын
Well said man
@kankynza
@kankynza 2 жыл бұрын
Nobody likes to talk about civil war and infighting. We were united against a common enemy, but now that there's no colonials milking us dry, we milk ourselves dry. Just look at those corrupt officials. The fragile stability we have here will eventually collapse in my opinion. Just needs a buildup and some new generation of hot-blooded youth. Nothing lasts forever indeed.....
@Edwin-pq6dg
@Edwin-pq6dg Жыл бұрын
Do not deny your past .There was never the intention to destroy when the netherlands came to Indonesia . There are always people that manipulate others for their own religion or for to gain power . Democracy is a ongoing fight between differences .. But it's not fought with weapons ,it's fought with law and order .Law and order are independent from religion and corruption and it's the same as human rights . Only if we can work together as the one for the people's opinion we can survive and grow for the need of the many .
@chicagolongboarder
@chicagolongboarder 4 жыл бұрын
To say that Japan “liberated” Indonesia is a gross misrepresentation of the truth. It was a change of one colonial ruler with another (arguably more brutal imperialist force).
@elivevile
@elivevile 4 жыл бұрын
Early on Japan wanted to control Indonesia. But as the war progressed and it's becoming obvious to them that they're going to lose, then they decided to... 'if we can't have it, then none shall have it', and encourage 'liberation', so that when the Dutch return later, they will have a big mess on their hands. So in a way, 'Indonesian independence' is an act of vengeance by Japanese trolls .
@chicagolongboarder
@chicagolongboarder 4 жыл бұрын
elivevile interesting.
@risandaadhipratama1508
@risandaadhipratama1508 4 жыл бұрын
Indeed... There's a saying in Indonesia that 3,5 years of Japanese occupation is much worse than 3,5 centuries of Dutch colonialism. By most accounts (my grandma included) Japanese occupation is one of the harshest time in Indonesian history.
@syncout9586
@syncout9586 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah that was the point of the video. He mentions that Japanese "liberation" is a propaganda campaign by the Japanese so that the locals were more willing to accept invasion
@elivevile
@elivevile 4 жыл бұрын
@@risandaadhipratama1508 : you have to consider their respective positions: The Dutch had long colonized Indonesia, they're there for the long term, so of course in the interest of their businesses they'd want to maintain a stable and somewhat moderate government that does not overtly distress the colonized people they govern. On the other hand? Japan? Japan were very insecure. Despite their rapid take over of Indonesia, they couldn't be sure they could hold for the long term, they knew they didn't have much time, because USA were coming! So Japan were in a frenzy, they had to harvest resources fast and they strip mine everything and enslave people to their deaths to build defenses and whatever, and ship whatever materials they could take back to Japan, because Japan were actually very agitated, very afraid, they're desperate to secure their position, hence the cruelties they committed. The Dutch were like overlords... The Japanese were like rabid dogs.
@rachmattrilaksono
@rachmattrilaksono 4 жыл бұрын
As a fellow history enthusiast, thank You. It's always interesting to see the conflict that shape my country from a 3rd perspective...it gives much clarity to balance the knowledge drilled down to us from the establishement
@MrCasual14
@MrCasual14 4 жыл бұрын
I feel the same way from a Dutch perspective.
@Meonium
@Meonium 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, but I'm still wondering why the current Indonesian hate China more than Japan and Dutch, at least on Media lol.
@InspectHistory
@InspectHistory 4 жыл бұрын
Consider support them financially, in Patreon dude ;)
@CalvinNoire
@CalvinNoire 2 жыл бұрын
@@InspectHistory hello
@gamersantai7796
@gamersantai7796 4 жыл бұрын
"My struggle is easier because I fight the invaders. But your struggle will be more difficult, because against your own brother" - Soekarno
@betokeysmail8944
@betokeysmail8944 3 жыл бұрын
indonesia : you freed us! japan : oh wouldn't say it free japan: more like under new management...
@dawgly4815
@dawgly4815 4 жыл бұрын
Indonesia's entire independence is basically just a big *ok boomer*
@emomales5782
@emomales5782 4 жыл бұрын
You forgot Islamic state rebellion(DI TII/Darul Islam) happened after communist rebellion of 1948 in west java region through out 1950s, yep we were fighting communist and islamic state while still on war with the Dutch, being blockaded from air land and sea and losing 80% of territory
@philguer4802
@philguer4802 4 жыл бұрын
Fighting colonialism, religious fanatism and ideological extremism at the same time . Sweet.
@emomales5782
@emomales5782 4 жыл бұрын
@@philguer4802 well the past and the future of indonesia will always be National socialist lol, thats why leftist, chicom and fundamentalist globalist muslim (islamic brotherhood) keep buthurting on us
@cartmanbrah01
@cartmanbrah01 3 жыл бұрын
@@emomales5782 this is exactly how a state should be. If your enemies are communists and muslim brotherhood you should know that you are on the right path. Love to Indonesia from India.
@almalayuwiyyah2512
@almalayuwiyyah2512 3 жыл бұрын
@@cartmanbrah01 do you think communist/leftie and islamist an ally?
@emomales5782
@emomales5782 3 жыл бұрын
@@cartmanbrah01 India is also potential threat to us with your political populism and Indosphere fallacy
@KusunokiSG47
@KusunokiSG47 4 жыл бұрын
16:53 As an Indonesian who was birthed in Madiun, I went to a college in the bigger city, Malang, and still, to this day, sooo many of my friends jokingly said that we're "Komunis anjing (lol) " or communist dogs. It's so intriguing how history carries knowledge and stigma and people do still remember some bits to this modern day. What ? Me, a communist ? Nah.
@Meonium
@Meonium 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, but I'm still wondering why the current Indonesian hate China more than Japan and Dutch lol.
@anindrapratama
@anindrapratama 4 жыл бұрын
Well it's hard to remove 32 years of systematic brainwashing I heard that back during the New Order, There would be mandatory screenings of a propaganda movie about the 30 September incident
@levia3118
@levia3118 4 жыл бұрын
@@Meonium you have to see Joker 2019 movie
@billylauwda9178
@billylauwda9178 4 жыл бұрын
*REMUV PEHHH KAHHHH IHHHHHHH*
@sumirejr1
@sumirejr1 4 жыл бұрын
@@Meonium Simple, just like the reason of 1998 riot happen. You can call me racist for this, but fanatic Islam group always think Indonesia follow "Islam rules" or "Islam teaching". That why they not happy when Chinese become one of the head in government. They basically want only Islam people in the head of government, its not like current Indonesian hate China but the one hate China always the loudest one.
@lallodarbo3469
@lallodarbo3469 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to hear how it was possible for people living in the netherlands to find the motivation to go half way across the globe to fight a people wanting independence. The mentality of colonialism never cease to amaze me...
@CalvinNoire
@CalvinNoire 2 жыл бұрын
And after a huge war which got them broke.
@said-fo5vw
@said-fo5vw 2 жыл бұрын
Yes they are Dutch especially European adventurous'
@thecyanghost1889
@thecyanghost1889 Жыл бұрын
I’m also kinda amaze at how netherlands managed to still control indonesia despite having to also fight off the germans (WWII lasts for 6 years and japan took control of indonesia for the last 3 so the Netherlands had to both, fight off the nazis, make sure indonesia is enslaved while also fighting off japan
@EncIave-
@EncIave- Жыл бұрын
@@thecyanghost1889 The colony was set up to be governed independently from Den haag and had its own armed forces and navy that stayed there while the Netherlands was occupied
@EncIave-
@EncIave- Жыл бұрын
Money also to allot of dutch people it seemed natural it had been theirs for hundreds of years
@waltertaljaard1488
@waltertaljaard1488 4 жыл бұрын
Complicating factors; 1.The Dutch post war government in The Hague initially didn't have a clue what was actually happening in what they considered Dutch territory. 2. They regarded Sukarno as a collaborator with the Japanese and a ''traitor.'' 3, There were hunderds of thousands ethnically Dutch people, who were born there, and never lived in the Netherlands, as well as mixed Dutch Indonesians, from which the Dutch recruted their colonial civil servants and company staff, who were of course fiercely loyal to ''the motherland'' 4. Outside of Java and Sumatra many indigionous people also wanted nothing to do with the Indonesian nationalists and were either advocating independence from Java, or remaining loyal to the Dutch. 5. Colonial troops from Ambon and the Molukkans were the traditional enforcers of Dutch colonial rule. They were the Dutch variety of the Ghurka's, with a fierce warrior culture and also christian instead of muslim. 6. Dutch boys, who only knew of Indonesia from school, and who until very recent had lived through years of hellish nazi occupation in which human life was very cheap, were told that they had to go to the other side of the world ''to restore order.'' 7. The Dutch government considered Indonesia vital to their economy in order to rebuild their war ravaged and ruined country. All in all a recipe for a tragedy of epic proportions. And what one could regard as a very painful and traumatic ''divorce.''
@mcmeyer1785
@mcmeyer1785 3 жыл бұрын
Very true, I think this highlights the Dutch motives to go to war very well. Another thing you missed is that the Queen promised to create a kingdom where all colonies would gain self determination within the kingdom. They would gain their own parliament and could make their own laws. Basically what they tried to do with the Union, but something that was only impelemented in 1954 with Suriname and the Dutch Antilles gaining autonomy. This is even in place today with Aruba, Curaçao and Sint Maarten beloning to the Kingdom and adhering to the consitution, yet having their own separate parliaments with somewhat differing laws.
@jokountung7474
@jokountung7474 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder what gonna happen if the Dutch not tried to re-occupy the East Indies.
@deinPanzer1945
@deinPanzer1945 2 жыл бұрын
@ggez Agree. Those dutch just don't want to admit they did something wrong. Colonization, whatever reason it may have, is wrong.
@hasanudin221
@hasanudin221 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe u can call this as Dutch POV
@emomales5782
@emomales5782 2 жыл бұрын
ah yes The Dutch history books. Always skipping political spectrum in dutch east indies before ww2 making the independence movement seems like Japans creation. Soekarno didnt come up suddenly after Japan occupation and we already asked that divorce with peace through diplomatic negotiation since 20s through Voolksraad. No one will going happy when they being put on third class citizen in their own land by foreigners and to be taxed by another foreigners acting as tax revenue officers.
@oakoakoak2219
@oakoakoak2219 4 жыл бұрын
The SEA states vid are coming out, finger crossed for Thailand episode!
@row7820
@row7820 4 жыл бұрын
Cant wait to hear how Thailand beat France on the ground only to lose at sea
@VladislavDrac
@VladislavDrac 4 жыл бұрын
I reckon I'll be seeing a lot of the Great King Rama IX in that video, and I'm expecting it.
@oakoakoak2219
@oakoakoak2219 4 жыл бұрын
@@row7820 If you talk about Franco-Thai war then it is not surprising that the French won at sea because the fleet stationed in Indochina actually was pretty strong and modern compare to Thai's Navy at the time, and it was a surprise attack
@DBT1007
@DBT1007 4 жыл бұрын
Thailand? Boring. They mostly acts like a slave. Some times they obey the allies, some times axis. And they even fully supports USA's attack to Vietnam. Also Philippines. They're in the same military cooperation organization made by USA back then. It was called as "SEATO". It's the NATO of Southeast Asia.
@oakoakoak2219
@oakoakoak2219 4 жыл бұрын
@@DBT1007 It's obvious you have no idea about the geopolitical landscape of SEA in the cold war. Go read some book first
@cosmobane6995
@cosmobane6995 4 жыл бұрын
US: "Listen here, cheesedick, you better let that kid go or you'll get none of my money" The "kid" here is Indonesia
@Irfan-uz3tg
@Irfan-uz3tg 4 жыл бұрын
US: "Listen here you piece of shi."
@spottedscimittar9402
@spottedscimittar9402 4 жыл бұрын
Wait wait Cheesedick?
@yers7638
@yers7638 3 жыл бұрын
@@spottedscimittar9402 dint you read the d**k? It's a dutch and England
@vellstraus1555
@vellstraus1555 3 жыл бұрын
@Iqbal Ar grammar nya kacau mas benerin lagi
@mohamedmeskini8430
@mohamedmeskini8430 2 жыл бұрын
netherlands give indonesia independence because the us said that they will not receive any money if they don't and they really need money to revive their economy
@TitikMerahCh
@TitikMerahCh 4 жыл бұрын
17:03 "Musso responded with a declaration of war" In this video ITS Soetomo "bung Tomo" not Musso. In a part of battle of Surabaya, after jihad resolution from KH Hasjim Asy'ari (Nadhlatul Ulama)
@cryguy3815
@cryguy3815 2 жыл бұрын
Oh yes he was of PKI Party Kommunist Indonesia
@chibatadayoshi278
@chibatadayoshi278 4 жыл бұрын
My grandparents have been teachers in the Dutch school system in Bandung since the 1930s, and at that time, their lives as teachers were very happy, with high salaries and government subsidies. In 1946, my grandfather joined the national army as a captain to fight Dutch military action, he went to the jungle for guerrilla warfare until 1949, leaving my grandmother to care for 7 little girls. After the Dutch occupied Bandung, my grandmother and her children became refugees and had to walk from Bandung to Yogyakarta for 400km. The War of Independence changed them forever. For them the Japanese Occupation was a very difficult period, but there was hope that Indonesia would become independent in the end, while the War of Independence was proof that the Dutch did not care for the Indonesian people and would not grant independence. As teachers they were both fluent in Dutch, but they refused to speak or teach Dutch to their child until my sister was accepted at Erasmus Rotterdam in 1992.
@gearhar1
@gearhar1 4 жыл бұрын
Hey, I'm sorry to hear that. I'm Dutch myself and the military action the Dutch took back then are seen as a black page in Dutch history. Most people are ashamed of it and are definitely not proud of the atrocities the Dutch committed in Indonesia. It's great that your sister was able to study in Rotterdam however. We still have many Indonesians in Holland and their interesting culture has influenced ours quite a bit. While I know it doesn't mean much, and non of my relatives were involved in these actions, I still apologise for the hardships your family had to suffer.
@chibatadayoshi278
@chibatadayoshi278 4 жыл бұрын
@@gearhar1 thank you.
@marhaenthemchannelreupload1344
@marhaenthemchannelreupload1344 10 ай бұрын
​@@chibatadayoshi278kakek kamu pasukan Siliwangi ?
@chibatadayoshi278
@chibatadayoshi278 10 ай бұрын
@@marhaenthemchannelreupload1344 Betul
@rosswebster7877
@rosswebster7877 4 жыл бұрын
Impressive as always! Really looking forward to a follow-up episode on the Bandung Conference when it comes time to cover 1956.
@adamandsharonrowe6605
@adamandsharonrowe6605 4 жыл бұрын
Another great video. Certainly improved since beginning.
@affandi99
@affandi99 4 жыл бұрын
Another fact: During Battle of Surabaya, Bung Tomo rallied the entire Indonesian to fight bravely against well armed British Army and also 600 Indian who were on British side joined the Indonesian side instead because of Indonesian tenacity to defend Surabaya at all cost.
@pradeepkumar-qo8lu
@pradeepkumar-qo8lu 4 жыл бұрын
Indians switching sides was mostly due to civil disobedience movement and armed agitation against British Raj
@MansionByBeach1
@MansionByBeach1 4 жыл бұрын
They were Indian Muslims, who joined the Indonesians just because the Indonesians were Muslim. They had fought for the British cause throughout the world until then.
@darnit1944
@darnit1944 4 жыл бұрын
@arif mark007 It is because of religion. British Indian soldiers were sympathetic to the Muslim Indonesians.
@darnit1944
@darnit1944 4 жыл бұрын
@arif mark007 historia.id/politik/articles/sesama-islam-dilarang-berperang-vqrGE One example. Indonesian btw. I kept the conversation in english so others could understand.
@EdukasiPerpus
@EdukasiPerpus 4 жыл бұрын
@arif mark007 dia bicara fakta bro. para sejarawan Indonesia juga berkata demikian. presiden Pakistan pernah berkunjung di era soharto dulu pernah berperang di Surabaya dan berpihak ke Indonesia karna teriakan takbir pejuang kita yg membuat prajurit muslim sekutu yg dari india sebelum merdeka mengkhianati sekutu.
@Panzer_Runner
@Panzer_Runner 4 жыл бұрын
Would be cool if you made the video 19:45 long
@vin6665
@vin6665 4 жыл бұрын
As an Indonesian I agree XD
@nightkat7244
@nightkat7244 4 жыл бұрын
Give this guy some applause 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
@Urga-fm7jb
@Urga-fm7jb 4 жыл бұрын
👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 agreed
@Panzer_Runner
@Panzer_Runner 4 жыл бұрын
@@nightkat7244 some leftist will get triggered if you clap, they say it is offensive
@7e_16_edwardopramudia5
@7e_16_edwardopramudia5 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@saspigeonsolo6003
@saspigeonsolo6003 4 жыл бұрын
dutch in 1945 : saya pamit (i'm leave) dutch in 1946 : saya kembali (i'm back) dutch in 1949 : saya pamit lagi (i'm leave again)
@zikrim1227
@zikrim1227 4 жыл бұрын
Grammarnyaaaaa
@saspigeonsolo6003
@saspigeonsolo6003 3 жыл бұрын
@michael boultinghouse easy mister easy dont angry angry yes yes
@saspigeonsolo6003
@saspigeonsolo6003 3 жыл бұрын
@michael boultinghouseoh ay em so sorry mister because ay em coming from village so i kanot sepeak englesh
@fikrizhorif6761
@fikrizhorif6761 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@athala6244
@athala6244 3 жыл бұрын
@michael boultinghouse lu serius ngomong sama kawan lu pake bahasa baku? Setiap daerah ada bahasanya bro, bukan kampungan, kebanyakan orang terbiasa ngomong pake bahasa yang non formal yang lebih familiar dilingkungannya, biasanya bahasa Indonesia baku hanya dipake buat keperluan formal kaya surat formal atau pidato
@vvayfarer_
@vvayfarer_ 4 жыл бұрын
Being the Indonesian and seeing so many perspectives of my own people and others as well. History is fun. And now everyone's here sometimes talking with each other like nothing has happened. Grateful to live in this era and not back then.
@aninditasakti
@aninditasakti 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, thanks ya for sharing Can’t wait for the next great content from you...
@lb5560
@lb5560 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this video! Not many people outside Indonesia know about this. Not even the dutch (especially the dutch youth since its mentioned very short and very poorly in history classes). One thing you forgot to mention in this video is that during the war of indepence the Dutch were heavily censoring out any contraversial news or pictures to the public (like war, murder, Independence movements) and manipulating any news pictures or other content brought back to The Netherlands in favor of not upsetting any leftists in The Netherlands or other UN nations. They were depicting themselves as "saviors to Indonesia and restoring the peace'' and eventially no reporters were allowed to enter Indonesia by the Dutch. It was a war were there was a definitive lack of pictures and videos regarding actual war as that was not allowed to be shown to the rest of the world by the Dutch. Only content that was (at first) shown to the world was the dutch (as mentioned earlier) manipulatively and falsely depicting themselves as "good guys". It is because of this that it is not very well known to the rest of the world outside The Nethelands and Indonesia. Because of this the "100.000 killed" is to this day very debatable because of this.
@egisantoso949
@egisantoso949 4 жыл бұрын
Love my country 🇮🇩 thx you for bring this video to us.
@bangscutter
@bangscutter 4 жыл бұрын
I'm impressed how fast the British and Dutch armies recovered after WW2, and came back to try to retain control of their colonies.
@levia3118
@levia3118 4 жыл бұрын
Hey they win the ww2 remember, so they still have enough power for another war
@diansatriajaya9153
@diansatriajaya9153 3 жыл бұрын
@@levia3118 excuse me? Dutch is win the ww2? Actually they got obliterated by germany you can say brits won the war but not the dutch
@levia3118
@levia3118 3 жыл бұрын
@@diansatriajaya9153 im talking about British, german lost the ww2
@diansatriajaya9153
@diansatriajaya9153 3 жыл бұрын
@@levia3118 you say they it means dutch is include
@levia3118
@levia3118 3 жыл бұрын
@@diansatriajaya9153 british people
@justinG9493
@justinG9493 2 жыл бұрын
I love your content! Thank you for producing this, I'm super interested in it. You rock!
@taniamanik2012
@taniamanik2012 4 жыл бұрын
Sir, you just explained practically my whole 12th grade history class here in Indonesia that I couldn't understand or memorize for the longest time (I graduated high school 5 years ago by the way). I applaud you 👏👏
@tinylunaticinahugeworld
@tinylunaticinahugeworld 4 жыл бұрын
To call "Indonesian Republik Government" as "Jakarta" in this video is wrong. At 1946 Indonesia has lost Jakarta to the Dutch. And it was reverted as "Batavia" by the Dutch. At Indonesia war of Independence, the Republican, fortify themself at Djogja Karta, a city in the south coast of Java, that quite hard to be invaded.
@etherglow
@etherglow 3 жыл бұрын
As an Indonesian, I have only learnt about the intricacies of our independence through this video. Thank you for augmenting my history lesson!
@xfauzi
@xfauzi 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this video!
@lilychung7993
@lilychung7993 3 жыл бұрын
This was really fun to watch.Thankyou for making it.I really enjoyed this videos.Cheers from indonesia :)
@FernandasYT
@FernandasYT 4 жыл бұрын
How can you explain these stuff better than my history teacher? Continue your great work!
@asiandaddy32
@asiandaddy32 3 жыл бұрын
Versi Belanda, versi Indonesia, dan sekarang versi orang Amerika. Cara menyampaikan sejarah kemerdekaan RI sangat sangat sangat berbeda. Cara pandang gw terhadap sejarah langsung terbuka luas
@generalhyde007
@generalhyde007 4 жыл бұрын
So that’s how Indonesia became an ally of the US. Very interesting.
@bpcgos
@bpcgos 4 жыл бұрын
Thats still a dynamic shift of course, we can see it on indonesia history in mid 50s- early 60s where indonesia swiftly align much more towards Soviet (one of our national stadium built with soviet fund) and Sukarno tried to unite all groups(under Nasakom banner which a short term from Nationalist, Religioust, and Communist). I heard that Communist Coup De etat of 1965 also one of the CIA operation to vanish communism influence and establish new government with much easier to control by US (regarding to freeports mines in papua especially)
@alejndraalmirowitsch4897
@alejndraalmirowitsch4897 4 жыл бұрын
Indonesia actually didnt become US ally until 1966 when Suharto begun taking power. Although politically we able to gained US sympathy in the struggle for recognition, in actuallity we adopted a foreign policy of "free and active" meaning we're free from any alliance but still active nevertheless. PM Sukiman Wiryosanjoyo was even deposed because he was allegedly leaning to the US. Indonesia leaned to the east (later more closely to China, but still friendly enough to the Soviet) when Sukarno became both president and prime minister, making him the most powerful man in Indonesia. Sukarno is actually always left leaning, you can see this from his writing on Nationalism, Islamist, and Marxism back in 1926 (later in 1960s this would conceptualized as Nasakom (Nationalist, Religionist, Communist)). Sukarno is quite powerless from 1945-1959, deep down he is a leftist, but also a nationalist and have good faith in Islam (kinda like Sun Yat Sen).
@alejndraalmirowitsch4897
@alejndraalmirowitsch4897 4 жыл бұрын
Indonesian history is actually really complex, there's not much english sources on our history (which i wouldn't blame on outsider, i suspect that's our people that too lazy for it). If you're interested, you can ask me questions.
@taufiqutomo
@taufiqutomo 4 жыл бұрын
@@alejndraalmirowitsch4897 not to mention that local sources are not always from a neutral point of view. maybe sources in Dutch can help a bit.
@PissMenn
@PissMenn 4 жыл бұрын
It's not ally of US only shares some similar principles
@Mahesha2310
@Mahesha2310 4 жыл бұрын
Finally Been Waiting For These
@StevAna8902
@StevAna8902 4 жыл бұрын
4:53 : PKKI should be PPKI
@ath_ala8078
@ath_ala8078 4 жыл бұрын
he already said ppki.
@Anone_Anone
@Anone_Anone 4 жыл бұрын
@@ath_ala8078 nah, listen closely bruh,
@qayz0989
@qayz0989 4 жыл бұрын
Do u mean?PKI
@andromaxbse6459
@andromaxbse6459 4 жыл бұрын
Wait , what about KPI then?
@jannatan9167
@jannatan9167 4 жыл бұрын
@@qayz0989 nah it is PPKI
@andrewlim9345
@andrewlim9345 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Brings back memories of my MA thesis. Indonesians tend to call it the Indonesian National Revolution. The best works on this topic are George McTurnan Kahin's Nationalism and Revolution, Benedict Anderson's Java in a Time of Revolution, and K'Tut Tantri's memoir Revolt in Paradise.
@jaig
@jaig Жыл бұрын
Please consider a documentary. Thanks.
@dallastiger1
@dallastiger1 3 жыл бұрын
EXCELLENT episode !
@justsomeguy3931
@justsomeguy3931 4 жыл бұрын
Nice work, as always
@martijn9568
@martijn9568 4 жыл бұрын
What I take away from this episode is that the independence of Indonesia was a bloody mess. The Dutch tried to sort of keep control of the colony, while the Indonesians kept fight among themselves. All the while the conflict becomes as playball for the US and USSR. This seems more complex than the Korean war. P.S. Dutch history books in class seem to have a tendency to stipulate all that we've done wrong while not explaining the complete conflict, it all gets simplified.
@emomales5782
@emomales5782 4 жыл бұрын
nope by American supported nationalist after nationalist defeated communist , we evaded earlier korean war caused by political ideology war in south east asia, US should do the same with ho chi minh so vietnam clusterfuck didnt happen
@sander7165
@sander7165 4 жыл бұрын
@Martijn you are certainly correct: most people think their grandfather or great uncle may have been war criminals and that all conscript send their were wrong because they don't know how complex the conflict was. It was a guerilla war : you don't know who you can trust and you are never save .
@theonerecker5245
@theonerecker5245 4 жыл бұрын
Onze geschiedenis boeken zijn zoiets als dit: we hebben misdaden gepleegd maar de VS wilde ons geen geld geven als we miet oprotte en toen waren ze zelfstandig!
@sander7165
@sander7165 4 жыл бұрын
@@theonerecker5245 de meeste mensen begrijpen niet eens hoe het was voor de duizenden Nederlandse dienstplichtigen die er geen werden gestuurd en die geen onthaal kregen toen ze thuis kwamen.
@Meonium
@Meonium 4 жыл бұрын
Dutch inserts their occupation of Indonesia into history books is already a good thing. Not like Japan who white washed their bloody history of occupying other countries and played victim in school history books.
@MrMonsigart
@MrMonsigart 4 жыл бұрын
ah, violence upon 'old' ruler after the declaration of independence. this topic is rarely showing up to the public. thx a lot..
@marijnrasing6821
@marijnrasing6821 4 жыл бұрын
And the ethnic cleansing that the indonesians did is rarely brought up too
@aryatamanurhasyim9834
@aryatamanurhasyim9834 4 жыл бұрын
@@marijnrasing6821 ethnic cleansing against foreigner, mixed race, and fellow Indonesians. No wonder, we were just poorly clad tribesmen hungry for revenge.
@ArcturusOTE
@ArcturusOTE 4 жыл бұрын
@@marijnrasing6821 I do remember a little bit of the genocide of supposed ICP loyalists during the early years post-G30S
@professionaldisappointment1654
@professionaldisappointment1654 4 жыл бұрын
yeah that will explain the brutality towards the the chinese
@MrMonsigart
@MrMonsigart 4 жыл бұрын
@@professionaldisappointment1654 I don't think it's about the Chinese.. It's more like because they feel feudal lords prefers their allegiance toward the Dutch.
@guieguima
@guieguima 4 жыл бұрын
Really cool video, first time i see this topic covered in a video. had no idea about it! :D
@evan7z844
@evan7z844 4 жыл бұрын
My grandfather said, It is true that the Japanese occupation was shorter, but he said the suffering was greater than the Dutch
@alchang1515
@alchang1515 2 жыл бұрын
Kudos to David and his team for another great video full of accurate info based on extersive research! And my hat off to Indonesia, one of the very few countries that after independence did not submit to cultural colonization but instituted their own national language, Bahasa Indonesia, which has unified the country -- in its infinite diversity. Saya menggagumii Indonesia karena setelah kemerdekaan kalian tidak menerima bahasa penjajah barat tapi membuat bahasa diri, inilah kemerdekaan benar. Bhinneka tunggal ika! (Maaf Bahasa Indonesia saya tidak sempurna.)
@emomales5782
@emomales5782 2 жыл бұрын
We are not that hostile toward foreign languages. Indonesian was created from the core which bahasa melayu but we make the language as flexible as possible for acting as lingua franca basically easing influences from another natives languages and foreign ones considering we have different ethnics and consistent with our path of modernization.
@jacquesderrida11
@jacquesderrida11 4 жыл бұрын
thankyou for ur content!
@ianwilliam8349
@ianwilliam8349 4 жыл бұрын
This video rocks! It covers a lot and summarize it neatly...
@cheeskybohlam
@cheeskybohlam 4 жыл бұрын
Indonesia Independence Struggles: The Dutch, Communist Parties and the others Me: there are more of them
@annatar1266
@annatar1266 4 жыл бұрын
There are indeed, a lot.....more but i think this guy wanted to explain the final phase of our independence struggle
@cheeskybohlam
@cheeskybohlam 4 жыл бұрын
@@annatar1266 yes _The New Order_ , Soeharto 5 Years Plan, etc
@jonathancandra8190
@jonathancandra8190 4 жыл бұрын
DI/TII, RMS, PRRI/Permesta, GAM, Westerling, G30S
@cheeskybohlam
@cheeskybohlam 4 жыл бұрын
Yup
@davasatria4191
@davasatria4191 4 жыл бұрын
Circa 1942 The Netherlands: *escapes from Indonesia* Indonesians: finally nobody will conquer us anymore Japanese empire: there is another
@ahnafm.m.z7750
@ahnafm.m.z7750 4 жыл бұрын
Congratulation you've got a greet from Indonesia
@panicon2
@panicon2 4 жыл бұрын
Wonderful job! Thank you!
@AveoHermana
@AveoHermana 4 жыл бұрын
As a native indonesian, this is quite the spot on video Great work man, subbed
@raiaqila1443
@raiaqila1443 3 жыл бұрын
The elders: noo, you can't just violently fight the Dutch and grant independence instantly! The youth: ok boomer.
@ix_mscz
@ix_mscz 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine being dutch in 1943 This meme was made by the Indonesian Liberation Gang
@EternalVirgin
@EternalVirgin 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine supporting the Dutchies in 1943
@kobo-kanaeru
@kobo-kanaeru 2 жыл бұрын
Genocida 13.000 people Belanda
@deanbuss1678
@deanbuss1678 4 жыл бұрын
WOW! These alliances . What a long way around to arrive where did. ( Politically that is). Great video.👍
@wibukaminolepofficial
@wibukaminolepofficial 6 ай бұрын
Your polite and non-mocking words and language are the parts that I like about each of your content.
@abenalif2147
@abenalif2147 4 жыл бұрын
thank you coldwar for making this episode, i'm an Indonesian and i'm very proud of it.
@frankclary3486
@frankclary3486 4 жыл бұрын
Great job guys, I just love this stuff, please do something on Algeria and foreign legion
@EricStPierre
@EricStPierre 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic content!! :D
@adamkomara762
@adamkomara762 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks becaus you and this channel i know more about my country history
@golgiapparatus234
@golgiapparatus234 4 жыл бұрын
Another great video! Do you guys think you can do a video about Taiwan during the Cold War, specifically the February 28th Incident and the subsequent White Terror imposed by the KMT?
@rifaldiadi9321
@rifaldiadi9321 4 жыл бұрын
Indonesia in 1945: yes!! finally our country got independence Dutch: yes, but actually no Indonesia: wut?? *Military aggresion 1 & 2
@cryguy3815
@cryguy3815 2 жыл бұрын
OPERATION TRIKORA ACTIVE
@kayzeaza
@kayzeaza 4 жыл бұрын
Love this channel, hate the ads for Epooch news
@ekdavey
@ekdavey Жыл бұрын
I feel like I learned a lot. Great video!
@kubat552
@kubat552 4 жыл бұрын
Glory to my indonesian brothers from Turkey ! We love you so much. And I'm proud many time ottoman empire send great supplies to indonesian muslims against portugal and dutch.
@pangeranangin6851
@pangeranangin6851 4 жыл бұрын
Indonesia / Indonesian is a 'The Royal Horse'
@kubat552
@kubat552 4 жыл бұрын
@@pangeranangin6851 Bro I wonder one thing. is it mentioned ottoman and ottoman assistance in Indonesian schools? If so, what do the Indonesian people think about it?
@pangeranangin6851
@pangeranangin6851 4 жыл бұрын
@@kubat552 Turkey-Indonesia big brother
@yernandadewanta2389
@yernandadewanta2389 3 жыл бұрын
In diponegoro war..i guess
@naoyanaraharjo4693
@naoyanaraharjo4693 2 жыл бұрын
@@kubat552 it is, in the Aceh qar
@vidiskiufortinok5487
@vidiskiufortinok5487 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for covering this topic. Don't be discouraged by the comments that enforce subjective knowledge on history. For a lot of Indonesians, the struggle for independence is such a twisted and tangled topic (including the propaganda of various idea by a lot of stakeholders) that it would actually be very difficult to distinguish historical facts from infused ideas. To date, there are various parts of Indonesian convoluted history that Indonesian ourselves debate upon. Anyways, kudos to you.
@boenzitem8747
@boenzitem8747 3 жыл бұрын
Thank You for Covering our History.
@huhuyalvi
@huhuyalvi 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the rewind. :)
@MegaCrazydutchman
@MegaCrazydutchman 4 жыл бұрын
My Dutch grandfather fought in this war as part of the so-called 'police actions'. I think it's ridiculous that the Netherlands occupied the Indonesian Republic right after having experienced a brutal occupation themselves. The fact that war crimes committed by several Dutch and pro-Dutch platoons were swept under the rug in order to garner votes from veterans is also shameful. The Swiss-Dutch historian Rémy Limpach has written a fantastic book on the subject, called "The Burning Kampongs of General Spoor", which includes detailed reports of torture and mass executions of villagers during the worst of the guerilla fighting in the jungles of Java and Sumatra.
@edcowede4026
@edcowede4026 2 жыл бұрын
Hard to find warriors among villagers stress the dutch out.. mygrandfather was arrested by dutch then found dead on the street with gunshot wounds in the same day.
@risandaadhipratama1508
@risandaadhipratama1508 4 жыл бұрын
"A new independent state that's firmly pro-American was established" Aidit: Hold my cendol
@Anone_Anone
@Anone_Anone 4 жыл бұрын
C̶e̶n̶d̶o̶l̶ Vodka, komrad
@dddf27
@dddf27 4 жыл бұрын
@@Anone_Anone kan indo komrad
@PertamaxPLUS-95
@PertamaxPLUS-95 4 жыл бұрын
Aidit : hold my wedang vodka...
@ShadyAnchovy
@ShadyAnchovy 4 жыл бұрын
Hold my bakwan
@Barri2410
@Barri2410 4 жыл бұрын
@@adiabd1 Aidit nggak ngerokok
@ayong_ID
@ayong_ID 4 жыл бұрын
My grandfather was died in 1946 during this war. He inspired my life when my father told me that story.
@renogearzyoutubechannel9292
@renogearzyoutubechannel9292 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very Much The COld War ................ for this video. Greeting from Indonesian
@agusti_zainal0445
@agusti_zainal0445 3 жыл бұрын
1.Spanyol🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸 ALFONSO DE ALBUQUERQUE first-time in 1509-1595 in Maluku ternate tidore 2.Portugal🇵🇹🇵🇹🇵🇹 1521-1692 in Maluku Tidore Ternate
@SemperAnnoying
@SemperAnnoying 4 жыл бұрын
The Dutch actually have a section in their national military museum dedicated to their war crimes in the region. Pretty admirable to be so open with it.
@Edwin-pq6dg
@Edwin-pq6dg Жыл бұрын
Teaching Trade , Agriculture and Respect . I'm 63 years old and many of my studends from the 70's came from Indonesia/ Molukken and so on .. They did get education about Jappenkampen and Jodenkampen WW2 . Lucky us ... We now have the Internet and maybe it can inform us enouf to prevent another WW .
@xxxchcxxx8905
@xxxchcxxx8905 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome channel!
@leonardodennisewok4128
@leonardodennisewok4128 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for understanding our history lines. I hope more of our young generation want to studying their own history. For knowing their own origins.
@rolandsf201
@rolandsf201 4 жыл бұрын
thank you. we love Indonesia 🇮🇩
@luisfernandosantosn
@luisfernandosantosn 4 жыл бұрын
Will you guys talk about the 1965-66 Indonisian Communist Purge/ Mass Killings? I've once heard of it, but little light is shine upon an event that left 550,000 to 3,000,000 dead people.
@brandon9172
@brandon9172 4 жыл бұрын
I also hope they talk about it. There really needs to be more information and awareness of what happened.
@Amstrdamn
@Amstrdamn 4 жыл бұрын
Indonesians don't care or afraid to speak about the incident because Indonesians view communism the equivalent of Germans view on fascism, and people will be imprisoned and publically marked for death if found sympathetic to communists.
@fireflyric4516
@fireflyric4516 4 жыл бұрын
still.. those "3,000,000" dead are not pure communist anyway.. some one of them are Chinese, Minorities, or Richest Family in the village..
@toukairin354
@toukairin354 4 жыл бұрын
be patient bro, he said "upcoming episodes"
@apalahartisebuahnama7684
@apalahartisebuahnama7684 4 жыл бұрын
Those so called "communist" weren't really communist anyway, they didn't know anything about it beside "sama rata, sama rasa" slogan, even up 'til these days
@agungsugiarto918
@agungsugiarto918 4 жыл бұрын
YES, More vid about Indonesia during Cold War pls
@odingsupriatna5591
@odingsupriatna5591 3 жыл бұрын
You are great documentary 👍👍
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