Harbor Freight Franklin scaffolding! 2 High, is it safe????

I purchased two Harbor Freight Franklin scaffolds and stacked them together to see if it was safe. My search through KZbin and online was not successful in seeing someone stack two high. I also go over some of the basics and give actual working measurements using single and double stacked scaffolding.
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[@johnnycache84]

A quick diy tip. I sprayed two coats of truck high grip bed liner on the top plywood, saved my ass a few times and gives you a bit of extra grip. Also I purchased two 1 1/2 by 36 punched square tube from the local hardware store. I put both of the over the top round post and a 3/8th bolts and hex nut to secure them in place. Makes getting down from the scaffold in its highest setting much, much easier and safer as I now have two poles to grab on to while I start to descend.

[@TKCL]

Thank you for the tips

[@timgray8221]

Great video, this helped me a ton. I was struggling for a week on my double stacked scaffold. The tie downs were a significant aid.

[@Benjywells1]

This video answered all the questions I’ve had about this scaffolding. I’ve been looking at it for a while. THANK YOU

[@TKCL]

Your welcome, I've been using it for months, it's been a life saver.

[@sabes14jeff14]

I never comment but this is by far and away the best review for anything I have ever seen. Thank you!

[@TKCL]

Thank you for watching and the feedback

[@haroldanderson2781]

Great review. I’m on a log splitting group and have sent at least 4 people your way for your stroke limiting lever. Pure genius that you didn’t create another pinch point.

[@TKCL]

Thank you very much, I hope they enjoy the design

[@rmacster]

What a great review! You're a natural reviewer. I know you said it's not the kind of thing that your do ordinarily but, I'd consider doing more of them if I were you. You're really good at it. Thanks!

[@TKCL]

Thank you very much!

[@charlestravis9798]

I was gonna mention the outriggers until you did. You beat me to it. Glad you’re well-informed.

[@TKCL]

Yep they have already shown up, I'm eager to install them

[@VASteelersGuy]

What a GREAT video! Just what I needed. Two things from my take - either add the outriggers OR you could literally buy another set and bolt them together. I ended up doing that at a lower level and it was super stable.

[@TKCL]

Watch this video for some helpful tips after me using it for a couple of years. kzbin.info/www/bejne/h4KQiqODmdFpkJo

[@terryduprie6313]

Very clever to reach those high places. I'm glad you mentioned some type of fall protection as you just never know when you might get a little wobbly working in the Florida heat. Also, may want to consider some type of a bump helmet like they use when working on tops of helicopters or airplanes in case of a fall. Concrete floor is going to win when it comes to your skull. I'm really enjoying the build and appreciate the details in your videos.

[@TKCL]

Thank you for watching

[@gjjakobsen]

Great video, Andrew and thanks so much for posting it. I was also considering buying two of these. My wife and I bought an old farmhouse in need of some serious restoration and I have to admit, I hate getting up high on a ladder. Two stories is around 18 to 20ft so I thought two scaffolds high, secured to the wall of the house for good stability, I would get up there. Judging from your video though, I might be a few feet short of the eaves and such, making it a bit of a wasted effort. I've seen similar Baker style scaffolds that have an optional top railing for security. That probably gets you right up to the top level and remains an option. Anyway, very informative video and exactly what I was considering when I came across it, so thanks again!

[@TKCL]

I also purchased the railing and stabilizers, it makes a big difference. With that said, I don't think you can safely get to 20ft working height with this set up. No way I'd put three together.

[@nauy]

I used exactly this scaffold in double decker configuration to paint the exterior of my house. The scaffold was solid. But let me tell ya, I was not comfortable up there. I guess I was not OK with heights, hahaha. Thanks for telling me about the stabilizers. I didn’t know they exist.

[@RockhillfarmYT]

I have been using one of these scaffolding on the quonset hut build And decided I should probably get a second one. Thanks for having a video for me to reference about it. Hope all the progress is still good on your house

[@TKCL]

I suggest the stabilizers and top rail system. It makes a huge difference.

[@geraldfoon6283]

I have one of those and cross bracing has already been mentioned by several other people. I just used a 1 or 2 pairs of ratchet straps attached in "X" pattern and tightened them up. Easy to store and change the size of "X" by making the straps longer. Only when the single scaffold with the platform at highest position, I made the "x" brace flat attached from opposite corner post to opposite corner post. That keeps the legs more stable instead of "x" bracing on the side like normal.

[@TKCL]

I used ratchet straps today and it worked very well

[@ericbraun4652]

For me, ratchet straps made all the difference. I was pretty uncomfortable on it without... and super solid with them. Easy, effective fix. And even though it's a little unstable, it's so much more versatile than anything else I've found and the fix is easy.

[@Drumwolf62]

Measuring the box was very useful. You are correct, not everyone owns a truck. Thank you.

[@ambpropertymanagement4824]

Nice video!! I would definitely recommend not only the outriggers for the bottom for stability that you said are coming, but also the safety guard rail system you can add to the top!

[@TKCL]

I bought both last year and they make a huge difference!

[@markb.1259]

Excellent review with a solid review on safety!!! If my research is right, the outrigger supports cost nearly as much as one scaffold. Personally, I'd just by a 3rd scaffold and double up the bottom scaffold base to stabilize the upper scaffold. A double wide base would be nearly impossible to tip over. Great review Andrew!!!

[@TKCL]

Not now, scaffolding is $250 and 4 stabilizers with wheels is $99. A decent deal I think

[@toddpollnow406]

We bought 6 sets at work a few years ago. They also work great as a rolling storage racks. If you add the 2nd platform to one unit and plastic bins fit great.

[@TKCL]

I need to find those bins

[@djpcinema]

Thank you for showing the reach from the top of the scaffold. NICE! That's the info we need!

[@TKCL]

Glad it was helpful

[@larrymiller4021]

Like your video on the scaffolding I have an old set of the same scaffold but on the older version where you lock the platform there is a double lock don't know why they changed it but the new lock doesn't look as safe. Thanks again for the video

[@chrisledbetter7029]

thank you for this video i bought 2 of them today. for building 30” house overhang . that my pump jacks have nothing to attach to till i get the lower parts built to reach the 24’ gable ends .( i digress ) watched video today 10-16-21 purchased today, and using it today on sweetest day. so guess what my wife got. if not for this video i would not have even thought those were worth it and i’d be working on ladders. thanks again!

[@TKCL]

Glad you found it useful.

[@dougdavis4439]

Good information Andrew. Looking at doing some high work in the house and appreciate you taking the measurements and sharing with us. Interested in seeing the outriggers as I will be up two stacks also. Take care!

[@TKCL]

They just showed up, I'm excited to install them soon.

[@dougdavis4439]

@@TKCL Cool, look forward to seeing how you like them.

[@joesharp5602]

I have owned couple of these scaffolds for over ten years, Tractor Supply sells the same one by the way. I weighed 245lbs and beat the daylights out of the scaffold and never had a problem with it. I used a ladder to get up on mine, and I drilled two holes in a 2x10 and placed it on the top of the scaffold along the back side. Drill the right size hole so that it slips onto the bar but stops where the bar starts to expand. This creates something to hold on to, Keeps you from stepping off the back (it is a narrow scaffold) and its handy to place drills, nails etc on. I used mine on bare but solid ground and wood decks and of course concrete. Never felt insecure on any level surface with the wheels locked. Again, I preferred to use a ladder to get up and down because of a bad knee but after doing that, I prefer the ladder anyway... Joe

[@TKCL]

Thank you! I just ordered the top rail system for it, should really help keep me secure

[@koalainsulationofthepalmbe289]

@@TKCL Can you share the top rail system you ordered?

[@TKCL]

Here you go amzn.to/3qCihav

[@OurSustainableJourney]

This is great, thanks for posting this review. Loving the channel, glad I found it!

[@TKCL]

Thank you for watching

[@hdtvcamera1]

Much appreciated. Built a tall steel garage and was thinking about getting a second scaffolding to run electric since they are on sale now for $100 more than I paid a year ago.

[@shanepadgettii9784]

They also make side railing for that scaffolding with a gate. A friend of mine has all the attachments. He let me borrow a section and has been a life saver for me building my home!

[@TKCL]

I need to find those rails, if you don't mind ask him where he got his

[@mge8942]

I had no interest in scaffolding but I watched this entire episode all the way through, you made it so interesting..now I need to go and buy one

[@TKCL]

Lol thanks for watching!

[@Michael-xh3wq]

Thank you so much for testing and posting this video!! Great job.

[@TKCL]

Glad it was helpful

[@wholmes5955]

Maybe you could put some weight on the bottom scaffold to make it more stable. And a previous comment about using a harness was spot on! Be safe. Great review.

[@TKCL]

That's something I've been considering

[@bradpolmateer4266]

I worked off of that type of scafold a lot and found it a lot more stable without the wheels

[@TKCL]

I've been thinking that myself

[@ShaneZettelmier]

One cool thing about your situation is you could put on a safety strap and hook it to your rafters easily because they’re steel. Also to stabilize it, if you happen to be next to a wall you could strap it up against the wall to keep it from shaking as much. You could make your own out Riggers to, steel would be nice but realistically you could probably make them out of two by fours With some U bolts. I would still feel better taking it off to a wall with a little ratchet strap or something like that. I think it would take a lot to tip it over though, it’s a little shaky and wobbly but it looks pretty safe.

[@TKCL]

Stabilizers are here and I'm kicking around some x bracing.

[@functionalvanconversion4284]

Thanks for the Demo, I was just at harbor freight asking the staff about and they didn't know.

[@TKCL]

Watch this updated video on accessories kzbin.info/www/bejne/h4KQiqODmdFpkJo

[@Coxfame]

Thank for the video... been doing high ceiling installations for 12 years now, mostly 19 to 23 ft high ceilings but sometimes I get jobs where my middle size scaffolding 3x7 won't fit and I've been debating to get me 2 sets of this size of scaffolding. (I see them go on the marketplace 2 sets for $300) but after I seen your video I think ill pass. The highest ceiling that I've worked on is 36ft (I used 3 sets of 3x7 scaffolding (38 inches x 82 inches working platform) plus a 10ft ladder on top of that) and I have a comings project of 44 ft ceiling. Thinking about renting the 5x5 scaffolding for a larger work area platform.

[@TKCL]

Past 16ft I'd be uncomfortable on these. Good choice!

[@weird_law]

I like that you included the box measurements, helpful!

[@TKCL]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@GraemePayne1967Marine]

Earlier today I saw a review of thr same scaffold (identical size, color, snd manufacturer labels) bought from Home Depot. The only difference is that the one from Home Depot, the platform has a opening hatch t one end. This allows you to climb on the INSIDE, which is the only safe way to do it. Just climb up through the hatch to get on the platform, and clip your harness to something solid that is _not_ the scaffold.

[@TKCL]

I do like that model!

[@ShadyOaksFarm]

Andrew I hate the yellow scaffolding when two high. Not wide enough and stable enough. I think they are great one high and great for painting when cutting in and trim work etc. I finally invested in the 6’ x 5’ scaffolding with aluminum walk boards which you can find pretty reasonable on the internet. Been 3 high on those and no issues whatsoever. Good Luck with it! Be safe!

[@TKCL]

Luckily I'll rarely be two high

[@blairhanna5740]

That is so funny. I have that scaffold and use it for a ton of things. When you were working I thought you need my scaffolding. You will love it. I use it for storage when not needing it. Makes a great storage shelf.... on wheels.... I hang my crosscut saw under it hanging on straps so when I need saw I just roll it to where I need it and release straps..... have a great time Andrew. Two high is fine just be respectful.

[@blairhanna5740]

Andrew. One more thing. You will feel better with outriggers. Definitely worth it, I also take two ratchet straps and cross corner to corner “X” to take some of the wobble out.

[@TKCL]

X bracing has been on my mind, I was thinking about making some with cables and turn buckles, but ratchet straps are cheap enough. Thanks

[@Phil-wu3qj]

Excellent video. You answered every question I had about this scaffolding!

[@TKCL]

Glad you enjoyed it.

[@jacko3423]

I'm planning to buy this item but worry about its stability. Thank you for being the guinea pig. Great review vid!!

[@TKCL]

Glad it was helpful!

[@YoeyYutch]

Thumbs up for providing box dimensions.

[@michaelmurphy74]

If I were in your situation I think I would look into using a third set of scaffold boards. I'd run the sides double high and the platforms triple. If the middle platform could be placed so that it locked the 2 vertical sections together it could provide a bit more stability... and provide a higher staging platform for tools and materials. Working alone creates a lot of uping and downing. Just a thought.

[@TKCL]

Good points

[@jamesfournier6114]

Hello Andrew Being you have those welding skills you could make a ( X ) brace on one of the 72" side of the scaffold when double stacked should keep them from wobbling side to side there seems to be no wobble on the short 30: side so they are ok.

[@TKCL]

I've been thinking about making bracing with cables too.

[@danchandler5383]

I have the same scaffolds as your. Except my came with s=the stablizers and handrails with gates. Bought mine at Lowes years ago.

[@TKCL]

I just got the stabilizers in

[@amerlin388]

Thanks. Good video. I had hoped to see there was some amount of foot adjustment or leveling jack options with this scaffolding. Each end requires level ground, though you COULD still do something like a stairwell using a different pin height at each end. Assembly within the stairwell would be a bear and I imagine there are better more convenient options.

[@TKCL]

They make adjustable feet for these.

[@shoeflystudios5903]

Great review! Answered so many questions I had. Thanks so much.

[@TKCL]

Glad it was helpful!

[@shoeflystudios5903]

@@TKCL Just bought one today with the 25% coupon. Thanks for the links to the accessories, too.

[@RishiDevanoor]

you areally help people like me and make it easy to share dimension of box and what it matter from start to end,.:)

[@jimmyfavereau]

I was thinkin bout welding up some 'feet' for this gem... thanks for the vid and looking forward to our barndominuim /pole hybrid soon :D

[@TKCL]

I recommend the aftermarket wheels and stabilizers, they've been working well for me.

[@jimmyfavereau]

@@TKCL thanks for the info : )

[@matthewjoseph9577]

Awesome video ,very helpful ! Thank you !!

[@TKCL]

Glad you enjoyed it, I have a follow up video on the channel showing the stabilizers and accessories.

[@demerathclark]

Absolutely beautiful yard!

[@TKCL]

Thank you very much, we feel blessed to have this property.

[@66bigbuds]

We don't even stack the exspensive brand name ones. When we need higher scaffolding we use the full size scaffolding. Or a pick on ladder jacks.

[@kingwood4357]

I think every new project is a good excuse to buy more tools/toys. I was going to suggest what Collin Colston already suuggested, use both platforms for added stability if using one scaffold.

[@TKCL]

Absolutely it is an excuse 😁. But honestly I already knew that I would be purchasing new tools and equipment to do build this house.

[@missreynolds3637]

My husband purchased one of these and managed to get it into our old Honda Accord lol I bet the store people were watching from the store to see if he'd be able to get it in his little car. I believe he had to remove it from the box, but he did get it into the car and home. Hahahaa. Came to see if it's safe to stack two high or just add a couple pieces on to make a little higher. I think he's going to have to purchase a whole nother one, but it'd be nice if they just sold the extra pieces you needed without having to buy a whole nother one.

[@TKCL]

For sure add bracing and outriggers if going two high.

[@skywatcher808]

First time viewing your channel. You did an excellent review. Very fair test, with fair and honest opinions. Well done. A thumbs up for sure, and now subscribed as well. Thank you for taking your time to produce this video. Take care. Aloha. K Inouye Honolulu, Hawaii

[@TKCL]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@binocularman]

thank you - well done.

[@gradydean3086]

I have a scaffold like this but made by a different mfg. I made two hand rails out of 3/4" metal conduit that slide down in the top holes in the side members. These will keep you from falling off. These go across the long side of top section. Good luck.

[@TKCL]

I actually just found the full rail assembly on Amazon and ordered it, it has gates and all.

[@pampilgrim2274]

Hi, Andrew, I know the scaffolding was featured, but the star of the video for me is Tiffany’s Oak Tree!

[@TKCL]

Tiffanys? That's my oak tree... OK ok.. Our oak tree 😁

[@pampilgrim2274]

@@TKCL just messing with you. I knew you would say that!

[@davidmcduffie1398]

Get four pieces ( long enough ) of angle iron or round tubing and build X-braces for each side to attach the top section to the bottom section to stabilize things and make them removable. Then store them when not in use. Just a suggestion !

[@TKCL]

I'm thinking about making cable bracing

[@terryreynolds7860]

Definitely Cross Bracing is needed no matter what type (ie: cable, angle iron, etc)...Additionally you need to put some railing on the top platform and add a rope to pull up and drop down bucket with misc items you may need at the top platform.

[@TKCL]

Already added straps for bracing, stabilizers and just ordered rails.

[@peterdement]

Consider clamping a 2x4 diagonally on each side of the scaffold from the upper platform to the wheels to add stability.

[@TKCL]

I am actually considering getting some cable and turnbuckles to make cross bracing.

[@hunterinthebush]

Thank you. Great review. Buying because of your video. Thanks!

[@TKCL]

Glad I could help!

[@davewallace.8303]

NEW TOOLS are so much fun to play with! YAY!!

[@TKCL]

Yes they are

[@bonnievoves3360]

I have a double set of these and have to stack them to get a platform height of around 10' I found that by putting ratchet straps diagonal from the corner of the upper platform to the corner of the lower platform really tightened things up and took care of the majority of the "wobble". It is actually fairly stable end wise with the straps acting as an X brace. It's not too bad sideways but I still plan to get the outriggers. Better safe than sorry.

[@TKCL]

I've been using ratchet straps for months and it really makes a big difference.

[@earlcavenaugh6459]

Great review Andrew. Looks like it will serve you well.

[@TKCL]

It's already been a lifesaver

[@schitzorage]

By the way love your channel been binge watching all day. Liked and subbed

[@TKCL]

Awesome! Thank you!

[@collincolston8443]

If just using one scaffold I think I would use both cross members to make it even more stable.

[@TKCL]

I've thought about that

[@ClareQueenHutchinson0904]

I can not what to see the other stabilizer for feet.

[@Mattg02]

Thank you this was extremely helpful

[@TKCL]

Glad you enjoyed it, I added the stabilizers and used ratchet straps as x bracing. That made a huge difference at height.

[@joeysimmons2779]

Thank you right to the point

[@TryingNew]

I don’t know why this just now appears on my feed, I was searching for this exact info. I ended up finding a scaffold tower on FB marketplace which did have the top guardrail for $450 so I did get that. Fit easy in my SUV.

[@LargerThanCats]

Finally someone who did a decent review! Have a subscription and like, thank you!

[@TKCL]

Thank you

[@LargerThanCats]

Also you should look into a safety cage for the top, it will make you feel a lot more comfortable.

[@TKCL]

Already bought it, it does make a difference.

[@gizard4117]

Man you covered all of my questions. Great review friend.

[@TKCL]

Glad I could help!

[@howard5567]

Andrew: Your more than just a good metal fabricator, so I think you can come up with some kind of X-rack bracing & handrails in your shop. What you have there is what we call Baker scaffolds. Painters & Trim Carpenter use them a lot to work walls over 8'. If you have a tall folding ladder, I would use it an not climb up the sides. Catch you on the next one.

[@TKCL]

Yep it's definitely the common baker scaffolding. I'm already kicking some ideas around for bracing

[@stephenwhite5444]

There's also a cage on Amazon to put on top...it's MetalTech but its interchangeable with the HF stuff.

[@TKCL]

I've been using it for almost two years. Here you go kzbin.info/www/bejne/h4KQiqODmdFpkJo

[@gaylewatkins4685]

Okay, I was holding my breath for a minute but it sounds like you have a plan to stabilize the scaffolding better. 🙂

[@TKCL]

Yes I definitely want to make it more secure

[@scottbeefful]

Thank you max work height was exactly what I was wondering. My barn is 13' high. Was wondering if I needed to put it on a trailer for added height or use one of those aluminum platform on top of the scaffold. No idea why women live longer then men lol

[@TKCL]

Two put together will work that height easily.

[@c.l.mcintosh624]

Thank you for your information very helpful

[@TKCL]

Glad it was helpful!

[@DoneRightReviews]

FABULOUS, real-world review!!!!!!!!!

[@Liberty_Tree]

Nice Job. Just what I was looking for.

[@TKCL]

Glad it was helpful

[@deborahbarton3340]

You be careful we don't want you getting hurt God Bless.

[@TKCL]

I'll be careful, take care and God bless

[@sharonurschel6753]

Looks like you have this figured out! Just be really careful way up on the top, Tiffany doesn’t need to come home and find you hanging by your fingers from the beams!

[@TKCL]

Lol after the ladder incident I don't need anymore of those moments

[@abelvillarreal6488]

Very informative video. Thank you. New subscriber.

[@TKCL]

Thank you for watching

[@sandybookman6259]

😳 actually one of my go to stores, lol.

[@TKCL]

I do enjoy some of their stuff

[@carlosjackson4474]

Thank You, PERFECT VIDEO!!!

[@TKCL]

There's another one showing the stabilizers and bracing. Made a big difference.

[@ryanzynda5114]

That is really going to help you out while you are building your house. 😃

[@TKCL]

Yes it is

[@jamesvictor2599]

Thanks good review

[@TKCL]

Thank you for watching

[@Easternoregon1]

Thanks! I am going to go buy a couple for 12 foot roof work.

[@TKCL]

Watch this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/h4KQiqODmdFpkJo

[@Easternoregon1]

Do you know if the plywood is exterior? Waterproof thanks!

[@TKCL]

It is not

[@renegade34g70]

Best damn product review I’ve seen in a long time!

[@TKCL]

Thank you for watching

[@davewallace.8303]

You might consider putting a hand rail on the outside edge just for safety on the taller one. U cud use just standard threaded pipe and not have to get exotic.

[@TKCL]

I'm kicking around some ideas

[@leokelly359]

hey andrew you might want to rig up some stabilizers on each leg if and when you stack them and use them out in the yard. a friend of mine did that went like 12 inches of each corner about 2 frrt up with a piece of steel bar going down at a 45 and put them 45 each corner so when you look at it. it looks like a capital A hope that makes sense?oops never mind I got the part where you are talking about it lol

[@TKCL]

I've already bought stabilizers, they just showed up

[@TheSoloAsylum]

They are more stable than you think. You get used to the hobble feeling when you finally realize it's not going to fall over. I spent my life on a job site and have never seen a perry scaffold fall.

[@TKCL]

I used them both all day today and your right, the wiggle you get use to.

[@outsidewithjohnhayes4674]

Well Andrew it surely looks like good scaffolding just be careful you don't want to get hurt man.

[@TKCL]

Nope I sure don't

[@mikemiller5139]

I would buy the ladder to get on the scalfold. No way I climb that high on the outside then crawl over the end. That will get old quick. A used electric man lift would have been a good investment to resell after your done.

[@LargerThanCats]

Yeah climbing on the outside is usually a no-no with this kind of scaffolding and why they put little doors so you can climb on the inside. Super sketchy!

[@billkroeger7566]

very helpful!

[@TKCL]

Glad it was

[@janie9097]

Do you think you could weld bars on side to make a little more safe? Encase it to make it more of a boxed in work area.

[@TKCL]

I can definitely make something

[@mikemiller5139]

Been exploring your channel. When did you build the garage. Don't seen to find anything on it. Do you have a kitchen and bathroom on the right side? I saw where you are sleeping in the camper. The first building was the pole barn that got blown down?

[@TKCL]

Correct on the tornado destroying our first pole barn. The shop was built 3 or 4 years ago before I started the KZbin channel. The right side doesn't have a bathroom, but has storage and a room with sink, washer, dryer, freezer, refrigerator and much more.

[@Buck1954]

Buy 2 more and stack side by side. They also have a guard rail set for the top platform.

[@TKCL]

I bought the rail shortly after this video and it makes a huge difference.

[@Starryspark-ev1kq]

After about 3’ it was too high for me!! Best of luck up there!!

[@TKCL]

Thanks 😁

[@brianmoretti6480]

I bought a full set from Menards it’s two high with the cage and double wheel set

[@Outtahide540]

Great details. Who would’ve thunk it, price going up ha no way

[@TKCL]

Lol right

[@Drumwolf62]

I am not sure if you locked the wheels because I did not see you do that in the video. But it may be a good idea to show people in the video how to lock the wheels for stability and safety. Just a suggestion. The video is still very informative.

[@TKCL]

I always lock the wheels. Thanks for watching

[@sherrysvesnik7711]

Can you buy or create a cross bar to go on both open sides to help you keep your bearings and not accidentally fall. Of course you should use safety harness at all times, but can cross bars be used up there?

[@TKCL]

I've already ordered a rail system for it

[@msdegrasse]

Amazon also has the cage for the top along with the outrigger

[@TKCL]

Yes they do.