The Best Home Defense Gun is NOT an AR-15 or a Shotgun | The Best Gun for Non-Gun People

[@HonestOutlawReviews]

I shoot for a living, and train people to shoot for a living, your choice is 100% correct. A pistol caliber carbine is the easiest weapon for non gun people to use efficiently. More points of contact so it's easy to point under stress, low recoil, cheaper to shoot, less noise and less intimidating. Not to mention its fun, so they will train with it more, and become more proficient with it.

[@geoffrancobell9434]

The revolver click bait got me. I agree 100% with the best firearm for anyone is the one they train with most. Also, I have a unique perspective from being up close and helping stabilize many gsw. Being a former trauma/icu nurse there are not many wounds that a come close to 223/556 and 12 gauge. I haven’t personally seen a human body with soft/hollow point 308 etc. but larger rifle caliber ball rounds appear to pass straight through. The 12 gauge tends to take large chunks out while adding many new chunks of foreign material. Due to the tumbling of 223/556 the wound channels are difficult to predict and lead to a significant amount of internal bleeding. That being said I live in a wooded area with a 200 yard driveway in a free state, so an ar pistol will always be my preference. Buuuut I also recently picked up boating and I may have an accident soon, so a good ole pump action may have to do the trick.

[@bluedogguy]

Since I saw you posted here, can I just say your channel is criminally under-rated? Love your stuff - look forward to all your videos.

[@HonestOutlawReviews]

@@bluedogguy thanks man!

[@ironwolfgaming9632]

was going to say my Marlin .44 magnum lever action hold 10+1 and my 5 foot 100 lb wife can use it easily as it has almost no recoil.

[@arcanon5080]

I love ur videos thanks for making them

[@OmikronZeta]

If you are going to spend $400+ on a home defense gun, first spend $50 to reinforce your door against being broken down by a single kick from an intruder. Also consider some security film on the ground floor windows.

[@delvesdg]

Exactly. Shit, reinforce the ground floor windows and bedroom doors too. I'll probably still be less than $400. Why would I allow something to get in my home for me to have to shoot?

[@Brett235]

Exactly. I keep telling these people that self defense is more than just owning a firearm, it begins with your perimeter, then the entry ways to your home. We have a safe room which is our bedroom with brick on all four sides and metal doors will steel door frames. If they do get into the house we aren't leaving the bedroom. We are calling police and locking us in our bedroom. I can replace material belongings, we have good insurance, but I do not want to get into a gunfight over something that can be replaced.

[@noname-mu6kn]

Only if u don't rent

[@OmikronZeta]

@@noname-mu6kn Landlord isn't gonna check if you replace the tiny screws in the hinges and strike plate with 4-inch ones

[@TeranRealtor]

I have my doors reinforced, plus a Gatehouse steel security door on the front door. I just watched a video on security film, and I am going to do that to all my ground floor windows. THANK YOU for taking the time to post about security film!

[@cainmorano4956]

To be clear : not the semi auto 338 with armor piercing incendiary rounds.

[@fierwall5]

That was his recommendation. What are you talking about lol

[@hard2hurt]

Little underpowered imo

[@killercat1276]

.50 blacktip set up in your pillbox

[@canphan1375]

@@hard2hurt they do make hand held 20mm vulcan anti material rifles. That should approach necessary power

[@SuperWagner23]

Wait, no 408 Chevy Tactical? I mean is comes in at a svelte 32 pounds.

[@TOAOM123]

Best home defence is not having a home Boom

[@dogvoter6473]

ascended tactical homelessness

[@kgkbuugj]

Then you better live in a stand your ground state...

[@danielallison3540]

Mind blown 😱

[@tribalman9668]

Best defense at all is not to be!

[@michaelsullivan8934]

Which is why I live in a van down by the river

[@DtongPyo]

Does this mean we're going to start seeing impressions of Guntubers? There's a lot of material to work with there...

[@pewpewbbqs]

ICEY MIKE! PLEASE DO THIS!!

[@hatejethro1164]

Garand Thumb.

[@paulthecabs8929]

Nah, just need to restomp the groin

[@Shrapnel82]

I see you study kenpo

[@DisdainusMaximus]

@@Shrapnel82 Ameri-do-te

[@bluedogguy]

Careful of the over-penetration!

[@supersaiandemon]

Groin shots are unreliable in the fact that you may miss, the invader is high or on something making groin shots painless, it's not a good idea.

[@paulthecabs8929]

@@supersaiandemon i guess he didn’t get the joke

[@MyMomSaysImKeen]

I made a handheld trebuchet that uses kubotans for ammo for self defense. I practice using it at least 10 hours a daily just incase I ever leave my mom's basement.

[@MrJello8bw]

Best comment

[@shawndennstedt5898]

I AM a gun guy with 24 years of LE experience and you've got me re-thinking my setup. You make great points dude. You continue to impress me with your common sense...

[@oscarbear7498]

Yeah, I agree. He's on point. If you see on KZbin people picking guns, it's mostly garbage with completely unrealistic situations. I think he makes good common sense because he constantly thinks as realistic as possible for situations.

[@black1582]

Great video! Especially the “yeah 31 rounds of 9mm, they’re gonna at least stop what they’re doin!” That kind of stuff is why I subscribed!

[@hambonejones7231]

I agree with all of your points, but a 20 gauge pump/semi meets all the stipulations you listed other than mag size, BUT, there are more projectiles going down range in the same or shorter amount of time than a carbine, AND it is easier to land something. For outdoor home property defense, I completely agree.

[@TheCCBoi]

"Pistol caliber carbines are cheap..." *Laughs in pandemic* lol

[@neetocracy]

like 500 for a PSA ar9

[@TheCCBoi]

@@neetocracy is it on PSA’s website? Every PCC i’ve seen the past year have been at least 1-2K.

[@TJ-fd9iw]

Bro u gotta get ur unemployment get that stimulus check

[@wilfordgrimley4339]

@@TJ-fd9iw some of us dont wanna leech

[@TJ-fd9iw]

@@wilfordgrimley4339 thats on u m8

[@KennyKenKin]

9mm PCC. Ammo capacity, easy to shot and aim, not expensive, not heavy so if need be can be shot one handed (braced but used as a stock) and you don't have to worry about over penetration

[@KennyKenKin]

Oh shit my bad I started typing before I saw the whole video. Good look mike I can tell your a thinker. Mainly cuz you agree with me lol

[@laserbeard]

Seeing this from the EU where we get tickets for butter knife be like bruh

[@FaithRox]

*Laughs in Icelandic*

[@artifex2.080]

@Fishy Vagina wait isnt a dane axe already two handed

[@McFarJordan]

@@artifex2.080 not for the Icelandic

[@SignorTromboncino]

You can still hold weapons INSIDE your house, as long you have the licenses required for your type of weapon, you are mentally stable to use it and you have a reason to hold it. This unless it is basically a rocket launcher or a full auto weapon. However, kill anyone with it and you'll be arrested no matter what (or killed by the aggressors inside your own house if you don't do it, choose your pain). But pull it out anywhere else outside the shooting range and you're immediately arrested. On the street you can't even pull out a screwdriver if you don't have a reason to do so. And I'm speaking for Italy here, rules in other EU countries may be a bit different.

[@tomb2289]

Almost no-one getting shot compared to US though

[@321Isotope]

“What gun do you like?” Is usually my response when asked about this. Training beats Gucci gear every day. “Can you put a flashlight on it?” Is the next question.

[@LaughingBearGames]

Moral of the Story: Use what you have practiced most with, even if the comment section is gonna make fun of you for it.

[@alanderson9711]

T-shirt worthy

[@darrellowings2343]

Heck yeah. Hard to beat a 10/22.

[@thomcad]

I would edit that to say "ESPECIALLY if the comment section is gonna make fun of you for it"...going "opposite George" on the advice and opinions of any youtube comment thread is priceless wisdom imho.

[@ghostface5559]

But if you're a novice pistol carbine

[@darrellowings2343]

@@ghostface5559 It's always the person that's dangerous not the gun. Wild Bill would lite up most of these pretend operators with a couple cap and ball 36's

[@Sanguinarian15]

Currently I have a pump action 12Ga. Mossberg Maverick loaded w/ #7 birdshot because we live in a single-wide mobile home with neighbors in close proximity. Before we lived in a trailer, I had it loaded with 00 buckshot when we lived in a more sedentary household. I am most comfortable with this firearm and familiar with how this set up patterns at our current home defense distances.

[@anthonybilotto7385]

This whole video was me going "but what about..." and him immediately saying what I was going to say. I have to stop trying to play "gotcha" on this channel. Silly me. Great video. Totally agree with ALL of this. If I had to make a second pick it would be either a .22 LR or a shotgun with birdshot. Sacrificing some stopping power for less penetration. Also, the .22 is not as loud and has almost no kick so I feel comfortable with it in my fiances hands in an emergency. I live in an apartment and would be concerned a miss would find its way into a neighbors place. The 9mm does not over penetrate to a large degree but I have not been able to find one for under $1000 recently. Penetration can be less of a worry if you have a good family plan to get into one room so you know where everyone is. Anyway, Great video.

[@hard2hurt]

I'm good at that. I can hear the arguments as I'm saying it lol

[@anthonybilotto7385]

@le jones that makes a lot of sense. I will look into the penetration tests. That is a good case on home defense. I was not aware that was the law. I live in NY, so I will need to research that for my state/county. Do you think the 9mm would be a suitable substitute for the reasons in the video above? Always good to know more. I am a relatively new gun owner and I am always looking for more information.

[@j.wyliehartwell8769]

@@anthonybilotto7385 If you are looking for a homedefense gun for someone who isn't really into guns, I believe you mentioned your fiance is like that, then either a Pistol Caliber Carbine, in 9mm is best, if you can't find one in 9mm then .45 ACP will work. If you can't find either of those then I would recommend a rifle chambered in 5.56 NATO,/.223 REM an AR would be best but any rifle should work, if you can get an AR pistol that would be better, because there would be less weight for her to hold but would probably be harder to get than any of the above mentioned firearms.

[@anthonybilotto7385]

@le jones thanks. super helpful....weird for the youtube comment section. Thanks again.

[@francoiswilliams]

Lols

[@EnFyr]

Looking back to your old videos one can tell that you always had the fire for teaching. Great content Mike, glad to see people like you on this platform.

[@Set2Wumbo]

Phased plasma rifle in 40 Watt range

[@montycasper4300]

You had me till pistol caliber carbine (although I began to question your judgment when I saw the Taurus revolver), which is blowback, so has a recoil similar to a gas operated AR firing a light varmint 223. Frangible 223 will also break up hitting a barrier, whereas a 9mm +P will not, so misses put the neighbors at risk. Manual of arms on an AR aren't a lot different than a pistol caliber semi, so not a differentiator and 9mm ammo isn't cheap anymore. My inexpert advice for a novice non gun person, a Ruger 10/22. Cheap enough ammo to actually become proficient, zero recoil and lots of 22lr defensive ammo choices that will work well from an 18" barrel.

[@jackpark4646]

I come from the UK where a gun for self defence just isn't an option, but I still agree that it's best to use what you know how to use.

[@JoeDurobot]

Self defense itself is not on option in the UK. Even off duty cops can't carry pepper spray ... something 14 years old American girls carry in their purses.

[@EliteBadFrog]

Got to get that big man shank bruv.

[@wenzelilustre9128]

Get a crossbow pistol lol

[@esotericed8736]

For home defence I have a sword and a shovel.

[@wenzelilustre9128]

@@esotericed8736 if you're in a super regulated area get a crossbow pistol too. If even thats not allowed a guess you'll have to do with a hunting slingshot and a pepperball

[@mcjon77]

A 100% agree with your choice. I have a ton of guns and have taught a ton of new shooters. What surprised me the most was that these brand new shooters were usually as accurate with a pistol caliber carbine and a red dot as very proficient handgun shooters were with their handguns. All of the women that I taught preferred the PCC to handguns and definitely they prefer pistol caliber carbines to rifle caliber AR-15s. The noise of an AR-15 tended to scare them.

[@Justablakman]

I keep an M&P 15-22 with a high cap mag and a light...because everyone can shoot it, shot placement is key, and no one is questioning what theyre getting shot with.

[@thormenucci]

Men i really think you should reconsider you gun choice, 22LR are extremely weak for self defense literally no one recomend it, you can still hit 4-5 good shots in the criminal and he probably could still shoot back( if the criminal is on drugs or alcohol effect he won´t even feel the shots) and for someone that don´t practice, hit multiple times a moving human target that shoots back its kind problematic.

[@Justablakman]

@@thormenucci thats why i have a red dot and a high cap magazine. I guarantee you no one is walking around with face or pelvic armor. I also highly doubt ill be getting into a drawn out gun fight in my home. I live with my mother and my 89 y/o grand dad. I work night shifts. If im not there and something happens my mom knows to go grab my rifle and shoot him in the face and shoot him in the dick. Im also taking into account over penetration, sound, and availibity of ammo ( mostly just my stock pile now, i have to order a crate) for practice. I have bigger weapons i just dont think theyre neccessary for my situation.

[@thormenucci]

@@Justablakman I´m just saying bro, you may use the rifle properly but your mom practice regularly? you think that in a extremely stressful situation she will be able to use this rifle properly and hit the criminal in the right spot? she knows how to procede in cqb combat? having an gun at home for defense and not knowing how to use it properly or practice with it its better than nothing for sure but stills very dangerous.

[@Justablakman]

@@thormenucci thats exactly why i chose the build i did, its like shooting a bb gun and yes she does have the practice to make positive hits with it. It also doesnt take a lot of training to tell someone to put the dot on their dick and dump. I dont think a legitimate close quarters engagement will take place that requires the skill to clear, its just not likely as soon as bullets start flying people start running, bleeding or shooting more than likely the former than the latter.

[@thormenucci]

@@Justablakman Men a shot in the D gonna hurt really bad but won´t kill the criminal he can still fall on the ground and shoot or his partner and the cqb training its not just to clear but to how to chose and use a barrier in a way that will protect you but still give you a good shot view.

[@citizentactics5227]

Something you can shoot well that can have a flashlight on it, all of my guns i use for home defense are equipped with a light and as much capacity i can fit in the mag well, the main thing to understand is any gun is good along as it works and you are proficient with the tool you choose.

[@ThePhototropism]

This was a great video. I think it was the very first one I have seen that acknowledges that the trained person will be attached to an untrained person and that everyone needs to start from scratch. I would like for a system to have been acknowledged where the PCC shares magazines with the fighting handgun in the house but that aside. Great info.

[@deleteduser3455]

The answer is train with a better gun like a 12gauge. If you care the most about having the best thing for self defense. Compromising because you are less skilled isn't a fair point overall in my opinion yes they may be better with a particular gun but one round of 9mm is 8x weaker than 8 pellets of buckshot

[@harlemdeni]

'People tend to stop what they're doing, when you start shooting at them.' - Icy Mike, Feb 2021. • Lost. My. Shit. 😂😂😂😂😂

[@Ruizg559]

That's so true though. I know people scoff all the time at the idea of a .22 for SD, but think about it. Bullets going downrange have an effect, even when they're not hitting the bad guy. Watch basically any footage of a shooting and the bad guy usually runs or flinches or otherwise dramatically reacts when they're getting shot at, drastically changing the situation. There's a bunch of caveats obviously and I'm not saying that a .22 is a good go to round, but ANY bullets headed toward the bad guy are 100% more effective than no bullets.

[@ghill1010]

Awesome!!! A great quote!!!

[@kuuryotwo5153]

@@Ruizg559 no matter the caliber, incoming fire always has right of way because no one likes to leak. A .22 in the hand when you need it is better than any given caliber sitting behind the counter at the gun store.

[@ochocinco2891]

Mp shield 9 pistol is my home defense. I like it because I can get a solid grip on it and has a good amount of stopping power. It's also very reliable

[@navajasrs2402]

I recently rendered all of my firearms inoperable and disposed of them in a legal and irretrievable way, BUT back before I did that my go to HD weapon was a suppressed .300 AAC AR pistol I built with Lehigh Defense Extreme solid copper bullets, an O-Light Valkyrie, Holosun 510e, Magpul sling, etc.... I live in a 5400 sq.ft. log house, so, over penetration is pretty much a non-issue. There WAS zero issue, excuse me! Was! I forgot that I recently rendered all of my firearms inoperable and disposed of them in a legal and irretrievable way.

[@ryzoz2331]

Why did you render all your firearms inoperable and dispose of them in a legal and irretreviable way? Now you can't operate any of them or retrieve them in a legal way. Checkmate libtard /s

[@navajasrs2402]

Didn't watch the video before commenting. So, basically, yeah, we agree. I built my wife a little AR-9 configured like the above. But, again, that was before I rendered all of my firearms inoperable and disposed of them in a legal and irretrievable way.

[@navajasrs2402]

@@ryzoz2331 I know. At first it was kind of a bummer. But I just feel SO much safer now not having the political weight, social stigma and legal ambiguities hanging over my head in this very blue state in which I live. Oh, and speaking of the word "safe", that huge metal cabinet with Zanotti Armor printed on the locked door in my office seems kind of out of place now that I am NO LONGER a firearms owner. But I just use it to keep pictures my kids drew, legal and financial documents and so on. Plus, before I rendered all of my firearms inoperable and disposed of them in a legal way I got into airsoft for cheaper muscle memory training. I decided it was a good idea to match as many weapons that I could to what I USED to own with as close as possible airsoft analogs. From arms length they even LOOK pretty much exactly the same. So if you happen to see me take something out of what USED to be my gun safe, it's most likely one of those airsoft toys I've been using for practice and fun. I also store the receipts from my airsoft purchases, tools, trips to the dump and so on, so that I can think back on my fond memories of rendering my firearms inoperable, disposing of metal scrap, buying similar airsoft toys... heck I could even SHOW someone else if they were for some reason interested in those activities. *shrug* This has been a great change in my life. I even told some of my very anti-gun family members, and especially their spouses, of my decisions. They are proud of me, and some have even told their friends on social media that I am no longer a gun owner. I suggest YOU and ANYONE you know who has firearms, or who you've ever talked about owning or using firearms on a public forum, do a similar thing I did. It is so liberating.

[@JukemDrawles87]

@@navajasrs2402 so in the end you ended up disliking owning guns? Very interesting hm.

[@navajasrs2402]

@@JukemDrawles87 Oh yes. Guns were so terribly icky. Much better now.

[@ChrisPBacon-ok7ir]

I don't think 20 guys would give 20 different answers. I can only think of three: Shotgun (my favorite), assault style semi-automatic rifle, or pistol.

[@hard2hurt]

I said 20 gun guys.

[@ChrisPBacon-ok7ir]

@@hard2hurt , Ah, yes I supposed you'd get 20 different models of firearms. I came up with 3 suitable "categories."

[@jeremymartinez4438]

I typically recommend a m1 carbine for most of the reasons you listed toward end of the video

[@AlexisSele]

i love this channel so much. I have 0 interest in getting or even training in guns, but i still watch this videos and can enjoy them and learn something. Really good work!

[@Jedi_Jed]

I find the 12 gauge the most intuitive gun I've ever used. I guess the kick and the length is the issue for most people though.

[@adrowsypoet]

Mossberg 500 tactical has less recoil than a 20 gauge

[@oscarbear7498]

I have two 12gauge. 500 shockwave and and Remington shotgun with stock . Both are just too idealistic, in theory good but practice bad. They are very clumsy around corners hard to run with, crawl, or quickly grab. A handgun, is so much quicker, easier under pressure, and can come with you everywhere even shoe shopping or to McDonald's. If you gun can't go to McDonald's is it really a gun worth having? You can go jogging 🏃‍♂️ with a handgun, good lucky running with your shotgun.

[@davidhoffman6980]

​@@oscarbear7498are you still talking about home defense? I feel like you thought the video was about concealed carry.

[@oscarbear7498]

@@davidhoffman6980 even in home defense I think maybe carbine is better. You can have wife use it or kids too. Shogun is just bulky most the time you'll have to go outside to double check nothing wrong.

[@davidhoffman6980]

@@oscarbear7498 you mentioned running, crawling, jogging, shoe shopping, and going to McDonald's. These aren't typically done in home defense scenarios. These are far more typical of concealed carry. Also, if you do have to go outside to check if the noise you guys heard is an intruder, why would you expect to be crawling, running, or doing anything other than walking around looking or taking a shot? I can easily go outside and look around with my shotgun (I personally wouldn't do that because I live in an apartment complex and the neighbors might call the cops on me, so if I had to go look around outside I'd grab my 9mm and carry it concealed, but that's not my home defense gun. That's my CCW. My home defense gun is a 12 gauge).

[@natecat1869]

.32 Revolver, won't spring deteriorate if left unused, good penetrations without heinous recoil or over penetrations

[@ompenarnie]

Springs don't go bad if kept under tension. They wear out from repeated cycles.

[@the89Tman]

All I can see now is hard2chew answering these questions

[@bpb210]

I agree with you on this. Myself, I use the old six shooter wheel gun because 1) I shoot best with it, 2) it's easy to store loaded in a locked box (biometric quick unlock) right by my bed, and 3) very easy to maneuver in tight spaces such as hallways. But, that's just me.

[@chrisdeadman6341]

Wasn't sure where you were going, was pleasantly surprised at where you went

[@SaftonYT]

Fair points all around. I personally use a Walther PPQ M2 because it's the only one of my weapons wearing a light at the moment and that's high on my list of criteria. I've given thought to transitioning to the AR-15 once I finish setting it up (it's inherited and I haven't been to the range to do some troubleshooting and zeroing in years at this point). I've just never really had any experience with PCCs. Maybe one day.

[@c1a2t3a4p5i6l7l8a9r]

I always say a pistol grip 20 gauge. It's practical it's cheap, it's very easy to use and you don't have to be very accurate, depending on the shot you load you don't have to worry about shooting through walls. if you're having to use a gun to defend your home you probably don't have time to aim it. In this case the shotgun is the best.

[@little2826]

I agree to a point. I'd probably reach for my glock because it's easy to maneuver and for me to follow up shots and it's got 33 rounds but there are definitely scenarios where I'd grab the ol mossberg 500.

[@BarzaRomanov]

I was going to say the same thing. And in worst case scenario, you can use it a a club.

[@BB-dl6zd]

Agree and he dismissed it the fastest. The shotgun is better that the one he choose and the one he recommended.

[@brendanbate5440]

I have a .22 bolt action with a 10rd mag and a double barrel 12. Neither are for home defense, but if I had time to get a gun I'm going with my .22 because Ive been plinking my entire life with it

[@larodragsdale1710]

The best home defense gun is the you have

[@CoeCoeLoco]

Word. But when You don't... I think this works as a pretty fair suggestion

[@olwheelman5799]

Thats completely false. Its true that almost anything is better than nothing at all. However, if you can't hit what you're aiming at, if that firearm doesn't function correctly, or if you don't know how to operate it, then its worthless.

[@jumpykilllerqx6029]

For Overall use in home defense a Pistol (semi auto or revolver), cause you can carry it on you, generally most pistol calibers are not as loud as rifle or shotgun calibers.

[@dgdanielguzman3]

Could you please list or mention some of the brands and models of the carbines you like? Even as a non-gun person, it can be overwhelming when looking into what models or brands may be best.

[@RonALampman]

I have for many years, and will continue for many years still suggest a 12ga, or 20ga security pump with one round already chambered and the gun on safe. For ammo, the lowest velocity, smallest pellet bird shot. In any home defense scenario, at close range the shot may as well be a slug due to it not expanding all that much. Plus it mitigates the possibility of property damage to your stuff, your neighbors stuff, or injuring a neighbor. Buy a dual clamp that will clamp on the mag tube or barrel and a flashlight. Spend a few extra dollars to get a membrane switch for the light. And YES, go to the range with it and get used to it.

[@phelaar]

"People tend to stop what they're doing when you shoot at them" 😆😆😆 thats gold

[@vancejoy3724]

@3:07 I respect that you don’t flag the camera. Keep doing you Icy Mike!

[@vancejoy3724]

@4:16 YOU FUCK! lol just kidding. Liked and subscribed. Great content

[@labbyshepherdpuppy5943]

Meh I just do HomeAlone traps, cheap and deadly 😂

[@nonyabizness2550]

And illegal

[@danielpustovoyt9726]

@@nonyabizness2550 Kevin should've gone to jail, that little sadistic basterd

[@nonyabizness2550]

@@danielpustovoyt9726 whos kevin

[@nonyabizness2550]

@@danielpustovoyt9726 oh duh

[@nonyabizness2550]

Нет они должен отвечай за словом

[@greeneyedlunatic7473]

Best home defence gun for me its a pump action 12 gauge Shotgun. Pistol Caliber carbine i chooze too good choice.

[@XDVikeyevXD]

"Use a rocket launcher" OMG I'm dying lmao

[@michealwilliams7757]

I wait to see your dry fire drills. I know you don't proclaim to be a firearms expert. But showing new firearms owners and gradually progressing with your followers would be a thing of beauty

[@prodigiousgirth]

You had me at "banging at 2am"

[@z1z2z3z4z1z2]

very good recommendation, for those reasons. the other thing i would suggest is laser makes it easier to look for the bright dot, and hearing protection, or splurge for a suppresser. i couldnt imagine the sound of shooting half of those guns in a room / hallway.

[@mariacallas9962]

When you’re not from USA,it’s really hard to wrap your mind around this kind of video...imagine a French guy making a video about « the best guillotine for you »...mind boggling.take care.

[@hard2hurt]

lol what I've noticed is when you're not from USA... you are more likely to make comments like this without actually knowing the crime stats in your country and how they compare

[@TheGroovyJones]

US has 3x more gun ownership rate than France and 19x higher murder rate. Like most European countries they have LOADS more people than US stabbed with knives and even skewers, all kinds of pointy things. And according to public records about infinity times more guillotine murders than US.

[@mariacallas9962]

They can’t compare ! That’s my point! Anyway,love your content (clever/honest /funny...to me ...) Take care.

[@willcoxn463]

I'm in the UK and this is another planet for me. In my house, in the UK you are far, far more likely to come across a burglar whilst you're home than in America. We obviously aren't allowed guns for self defense, it takes forever to get a license for a hunting/target weapon and if you defend your home with a legally held firearm, or even a taser/co2 gun/pepper spray etc then you'll probably end up with a bigger jail sentence than the burglar. So in every room of my house I have a melee weapon, a tomahawk and bat in my bedroom, hammers/ knives/ bats spread around. The burglar would probably run from a gun waving around but that isn't an option so we have to go with melee personal combat which is messy and probably more dangerous

[@JohanSimonsson]

The best one, is the one you know how to handle in a safe and controlled way.

[@yonatangale1452]

Ive never shot an ar15 or a pistol but an ar is essentially an m16. I was a commander in the idf and saw plenty of guys shoot for the first time and a rifle is really easy to use without much practice with very little recoil. Weighs less than 2 kilos as well. Im curious why you think the carbine is so much better.

[@YourUpstairsNeighbor]

There is NO best home defense gun. It's like asking "what's the best tool?"

[@ninjakettlebong2108]

Left Hand ====> Cold Steel Buckler Right Hand ===> Revolver

[@pagamut]

Situations dictate strategy, strategy dictates tactics, and tactics dictate techniques......." ~ Roger Phillips

[@MrDemoney03]

I found the pacing of the video nice for some reason. This video was quite informative btw. Now I want one

[@JoeDurobot]

*The idea of a "best home defense gun for non-gun people" is ludicrous!* *Either you are a "gun person", properly trained and competent with a firearm ... in this case your best option is a long gun (shotgun, rifle).* *If you're a "non-gun" person you're best option is obviously NOT a gun.* *Get some training from a competent firearm instructor and become a "gun person", it's your only option to be armed with a gun.*

[@alphabravo4579]

What's next? Best knife for "non-knife" people? Best car for non-car people, aka folks without a driver lience ... It's a car still! HAHAHA. Agreed.Either you know about guns or you don't. Given guns to untrained people is the worst idea. This internet self proclaimed "expert" is going to get someone killed.

[@hard2hurt]

Uh... yeab. This is how you create a gun person: offering them palatable, accessible options. Your all-or-nothing approach is off putting. Nobody likes ultimatums. I'm glad you used bold though it made me chuckle.

[@alphabravo4579]

@Fishy Vagina You need more training. You can fit an entire SWAT team with long guns in a tiny place, they won't touch the walls.

[@alphabravo4579]

@Fishy Vagina A SMG IS a long gun. Anything with a stock is.

[@sport8133]

Your simplistic comment is ludicrous. Hard2hurt made one of the most useful, informative videos in the genre. He backed each opinion with an sold reason why. He totally changed the way I rank firearms in terms of home defense for novices. He's dealing with the world the way it is, not the way gun nuts like you think it should be.

[@nope8535]

What do I use? Depends. 20ga pump, AR in 5.56, or my nightstand pistol are my options. I also have for my bad arthritis days a 10/22 with 25rd mags.

[@VideoPortfolio2010]

Damn bro.. It's like the Matrix up in there! lol

[@ghill1010]

Solid advice. I have a 9mm Taurus g2, and a mossberg 500 with #4 buck. My wife grew up hunting and shooting and is more solid than I am with a rifle/shotgun platform. If we are both home the 9mm and me go to first investigate and if I fail she’s holding the rear with the mossberg. Hopefully we will never have to find out if it’s the right plan. Lol. Reasons for those weapons is I could afford the Taurus and have had the mossberg for many years and have upgraded the barrel and ammo tube. For more capacity. #4 buckshot is to not kill neighbors with over penetration.

[@jessekaiman5182]

You clickbaited me with the revolver dammit. "Ah yes, 6 rounds and the nice soothing sounds of a .357m flashbang fireball to finish waking you up." I keep an fn5.7 with blue tips. Mounted light, don't even have to aim really just keep the beam centered. 0 recoil and a whole lotta bang. I been meaning to get a laser but ammos basically at space level rn.

[@Doc41295]

Don't bother with a laser unless it's an IR one for night vision. Visible lasers are not the move. If you want to improve your sighting system, put a red dot on it instead. Pistol dots are the future.

[@Doc41295]

Just don't get a shitty cheap dot. Those are most definitely not the future.

[@jessekaiman5182]

@@Doc41295 calm down their Sam Fisher lol. Boutta start sleeping with NVGs.

[@Doc41295]

@@jessekaiman5182 lol. I only mentioned night vision because it's the only time lasers are viable. Obviously most people don't have NODs so most people don't have any use for lasers.

[@jessekaiman5182]

@@Doc41295 I got shitty eyes. For edc it's probably overkill and or unnecessary. But don't think anyone breaking in would give me time to put on contacts. Just another layer of what if really, easier target acquisition without having to look down sights. In all reality the light is enough... but its a *FUCKIN LASER* ... need I say more? Lol that and the 5.7 looks weird without it imo.

[@leftlegtrumpcard8152]

I have a hi point 9mm carbine rifle with a red dot. Easy to shoot, light, and easy to shoot out to 100 yards. I grew up with guns and that rifle is so user friendly that it's hard to vote against it. The semi auto 20 gauge with buck shot is available as well. Pin point accuracy isn't necessary.

[@fbiagent2848]

I’ve got an old shotgun beside my bed loaded with birdshot. There’s probably a better gun out there but Im broke and don’t want to spend my money on a gun right now

[@little2826]

That works just fine in most cases.

[@redclayscholar620]

That's what I got. Not just because I'm cheap but also if someone breaks into my house while everyone is away they won't make off with my good guns.

[@kyleneeley1]

I wonder if anyone has made a phone app that connects to a home speaker system so you can announce yourself/address an intruder without giving away your location within the building

[@thetortoise6099]

Had a Hi Point .45 for a while , really fun all day shooter. Accurate , light , trigger pull was crazy heavy but all in all , fun day at the range or gravel pit.

[@maafa21MustSee]

Do you have a video on strategically and safely storing all the guns and accessibility for all members of the fam?

[@renegadenaffy]

You look so much younger without the long beard 😂

[@ghostblackzero]

The only thing harder to find than a Glock Gen 3 right now are the bullets it would fire.

[@andreiandrei8240]

While me, an European, be like What's the best butter knife for home defense

[@pavelzak3603]

While me, an European, be like I don't need home defense stuff, because I live in one of the most safe countries in the world. :D

[@144avery]

*laughs in Joergsprave*

[@kgkbuugj]

@@pavelzak3603 never hurts to be extra prepared and safe

[@redactedcanceledcensored6890]

@@pavelzak3603 Which country? I live in Europe and this country is getting really rough while even bear spray is illegal to carry! And we have bears in the woods!

[@pavelzak3603]

@@redactedcanceledcensored6890 Czech Republic

[@jacksonhamlett6490]

Got an old 30 carbine. Probably my go to.

[@charrleschervanik3632]

I was expecting to "Okay Fudd" this video, but my expectations were subverted

[@hard2hurt]

Are you new here? Subverting expectations is literally my favorite thing

[@charrleschervanik3632]

@@hard2hurt I've been here forever, just still catches me off guard some times. Also keep up the good work

[@charrleschervanik3632]

@@hard2hurt Also to answer your question, I personally find my Go to is a pistol, but I have a ton of time behind it so I know how to use it. Plus Its not large enough where its harder to handle in Tight Hallways like say a Remington 500 series. Now there are faults behind pistols too, being the mag size is limited and that stability for beginners is meh at best, but put some time in behind it, and it should work. Also To clarify Mine is a 1911, mainly because its kind of a donor pistol and not because Im one of those TwO WoRlD wArS ThE LorDs CaLibEr 45 ACP types.

[@little2826]

@@charrleschervanik3632 A 1911 isn't a bad choice at all if you're good with it. It might have limited capacity but 45 acp is a great round regardless of what people might say. I keep a decked out gen 4 g17 as my go to for home defence but of all the handguns, shotguns and rifles we own my ol lady's go to is a springfield mil spec and she's very proficient with it.

[@RitamBuchwald]

Yeah revolvers were great a 160 years ago when people were still shoving lead into their muskets. I'm so glad he didn't recommend a revolver.

[@Dsizzle98]

A wise man once said “pistols put holes in people, rifles put holes through people, and with the right load at the right range a shotgun will rip shit off of people” The best gun is the one you have

[@vanillagorilla1807]

I feel like we get caught up on which weapon is best for home defense when I don't think that is as relevant as what ammo you're using. If all you have for your AR is 55gr ball, RIP anything behind the fool you're shooting at (same argument for 00 buck, slugs, any pistol cal ball ammo, etc). Correct me if I'm wrong, I have a feeling most times you start sending rounds at someone they're just going to run.

[@therealdestructicus]

That taurus though.

[@8Maduce50]

12ga Shotgun pistol grip with bird shot and 45 hallow point. Both of which will have limited penetration if you're worried about going through walls like in cities or suburbs. You don't want anything long since you'll have to wield it around corners and a long barrels give you away as you turn the corner. Hand guns are good. use slower rounds like 38 special and 45. The carbine would be good if you had long hallways and the guy was at the other end, but also give extra penetration due to more powder burn resulting in a faster round. The best gun for home defense is the one you had the most practice with.

[@alertedcoyote7892]

Here from Ireland, where our self defense laws are essentially the "parkour" meme. Ima just sprint at them with the kitchen knife lmao

[@pringles3254]

I have a short barrel 12 gauge it's just what I have that's the best for me and if I have to defend my property I have slugs Edit: had** edit : I now have an ar15

[@brandonh4527]

My ideal choice: standard 16" AR with a light, some sort of optic, magazine w/ coupler (for a 2nd magazine), and a sling. This gives me most bang for the buck, and if someone is willing to buy a gun specifically for home defense, something like this would be what I would recommend. It's got the ideal barrel length, with little training, you can learn to move it effectively through structures, and if need be, you can wield it 1 handed for a limited amount of time. It is just a better choice all around, you get Rifle ballistics that are threat stoppers, not psychological stoppers like handgun calibers, and you can carry a good amount of ammo. An AR is also widely recommended by many instructors as well. I also recommend keeping electronic ear protection attached to, or right next to the chosen platform, an idea I picked up from James Yeager, Tactical Response. The other thing to consider is pure ballistics and physics. Generally speaking a rifle round is better for multiple reasons: You can carry a fair amount of ammo (5.56), It will effectively do the job, It is lighter recoiling than a shotgun and will likely take less rounds to stop a threat than a pistol would. In addition to this, Rifle rounds will for the most part stop sooner, than any other round inside a house, particularly the 5.56x45. This is achieved the same way it's stopping power is, through high speed deformation and fragmentation, so now, not only do you have more stopping power, a fair amount of ammo on board, an easy to shoot platform, a safer round to shoot in a structure, but it is also more effective over most ranges and scenarios than any other widely available option. Another reason why a rifle is a better choice, it is going to put less lead in the air, and be more effective with the least amount of liability attached to it due to less rounds likely to be used, more accurate shot placement, and you are most likely to stop your threat before they injure someone. Not to mention, should you need a follow up shot, which probably will happen, it has the least amount of perceived recoil, with the exception of a PCC like a CZ Scorpion or similar. "Pistols put holes in people, Rifles put holes through people, and shotguns at the right range, with the right load, will physically remove a chunk of shit off of your opponent and throw that shit on the floor, and you will have to get someone to come in and clean that shit up with a shovel" - Clint Smith, Thunder Ranch My recommendation: If someone asks me what gun is best for home defense, it generally leads to a couple questions, followed by a specific answer. In general though, assuming they are not into guns and just want something to protect the house and shoot from time to time, I would generally point them to an AR pistol, it's light just like a PCC, has better ballistics, light recoil, a good amount of ammo on board, the ability to be highly customized, and if you needed to, travel through the house / slice tight corners in order to either escape, evade, or secure another family member from danger. The only other time I generally recommend something else (not an AR regardless of barrel length), it is generally a handgun (not taking anti-freedom states), because they already carry everyday or are considering it. In this case, it is the best choice for them because they don't really want to spend money, probably aren't going to train more than they absolutely feel they need to, and they are already familiar with that particular platform. Moreover, it would also be an adequate choice for them because it will probably be on their person when they need it and, if they should find their self in a similar situation in a structure where they need to escape, evade, secure another individual, etc. It's easier to use in these roles, especially when securing someone like a child where you may find yourself carrying them, or holding onto them, only allowing 1 hand to use a weapon. What I do not recommend: Generally speaking, whatever you have on your gun, is what you're going to have available for any given fight since under most circumstances you likely won't have a chance to put on body armor and other gear if you have it, so something like a shotgun or revolver is generally not a good idea, specially the shotgun. Neither are particularly a good choice as a primary defensive weapon, regardless of your proficiency levels, mainly because of the ammo capacity or the lack of in both platforms without finding extra places to carry ammo, like in a pocket or something. That is why if a shotgun is going to be used, a side saddle for extra ammo on the gun is what I would consider to be mandatory. Shotguns have a massive amount of stopping power at the right range, with the right load, but they are also very loud, have a good amount of muzzle flash (18" and shorter), the lowest amount of ammo with the longest reload time, like the revolver, and the highest amount of penetration of any other weapon category within the platforms effective range. They also have the highest amount of liability attached to them as well. You are liable for every round, or in this case pellet, that comes out of your weapon. When you have something like a shotgun that shoots multiple projectiles at once, you really got to know what you're doing and what your backstop is because those are going to create a big mess. Not to mention every shotgun with different brands of ammo pattern different at various distances, so the operator should take quite a bit of time to see how their shotgun patterns at various ranges, going out to their max probable distance. Furthermore, the shotgun, like the revolver, really takes a master to run effectively, and then you get into fancy things like a slug change over technique for shotguns, or fast and effective loading techniques for both of the platforms.

[@BioStock08]

Best home defense set up is a 17+ round M&p with a sight and a light. + and a shield is a plus.

[@mahzig4851]

I like a sharp katana

[@dvldgz6306]

I always say something light, with little recoil, and long enough to shoulder it and have both hands on the weapon. Because I've thought of it too and have come to the same answer. If I get shot or what not I need someone else to have the best chance to finish the bad guy.

[@steviek1980]

I love how your so politically correct these days! Mine would be a pump shotgun, cause I've had the most practice with it. But a pistol caliber carbine is the new self defence firearm for the millenium! If the Honest Outlaw agrees with you, you know your right!

[@66block84]

Great idea PCC, mine is a Sub2K in S&W 9mm. Of course there is also a pistol to go with that. My first reach is a Circuit Judge in .410 tripple aught buck. If that doesn't change their mind, then 30 rounds of .22 WMR will follow.

[@MonkiFI]

Kalashnikov, for when you have to kill everyone in the room.

[@MonkiFI]

@@AkiraHDR50 no this is Kyle

[@Doc41295]

Unironically yes. I'd rather have an AK74 than any pistol caliber carbine. 5.45 will overpenetrate less and perform vastly better.

[@MrBullet888]

What's on my waist goes on the nightstand. Simple. Its what I've trained with and what I'm familiar with.

[@toecutterjenkins]

I'd love a kriss vector , got to shoot one at a range and damn it was sweet.

[@curlybill3966]

They have problems.

[@chrisjones6002]

Good stuff. I agree, PCC are underrated for home defense. I used to be the "get a shotgun" guy but I've come to realize they are really an expert's weapon.

[@ufc3ko812]

If u try to fight this guy he’ll knock u out of u try to wrestle him he’ll choke u out and if u try to break into his house he’ll blow your head off what a legend 😂love this man real life John wick

[@alexeysaphonov232]

One that you have and have experience with. If you are shooting clays you probably have some 12 gauge doublebarrel over and under. If you are shooting .22 lr for sport - ok. If IPSC 3-gun - more options.

[@bykush_5299]

i think a baseball bat is the best lol

[@lu9thix]

Golf club

[@brandongreen4303]

Totes agree. Pc9, vortex red dot, decent light. Good home defense and fun for days!

[@MG-bi6mq]

Last home invasion situation I had to deal with I used my mighty fists of fury! Admittedly a firearm would’ve made things a lot easier. But a lot less fun.

[@kevinlobos5519]

You had fun during a home invasion? What where they? Strippers?

[@TheAngryMarshmallow]

@@kevinlobos5519 YOUR COMMENT HAD ME WHEEZING OMG

[@kevinlobos5519]

You are welcome bro

[@TheArizonaRanger.]

My favorite fire arm for home defense is the first one I can get to. If I can't reach any by the time the assailant is hurting me or my loved ones I already failed to a degree. I should also say everyone in my household is aware on how to function all the firearms in the house.

[@bdemar2k12]

There's so many angry gun owners on the internet who are just waiting for someone to accidentally walk into their Texas ranch so they can have an excuse to go call of duty on their ass.

[@bigrho1727]

😂😂😂😂

[@labotimy]

Get off my lawn.

[@landonellis7416]

Pump 12 gauge because I live in California and most other options are not legal