Hardee Brush Tiger! Will Tim Slide Into the Pond?

Tractor Time with Tim tries out the Hardee Brush Tiger loader mounted offset mower on the John Deere 2038R Tractor.
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[@akbychoice]

The old saying, “ don’t go where the cattails grow “ is solid advice.

[@Harry-zz2oh]

I think you might be swimming the tractor which is not recommended. I've taken a tractor into a irrigation canal to clean out my turn-out but I turned over instead. Not a good way to do things.

[@richpicone7788]

MASTERFUL!! I was nervous for you in some of those spots. Amazed you were able to get as much as you did there. Can’t believe how long you guys have been there already. I remember how excited I was for you (and me as a viewer) when you revealed you had bought the property. Looking good!!

[@Chris-jh3tg]

Christie's shadow at 15:20. 😁 C'mon Tim, you're going to give your wife a heart attack!

[@debbieschmidt9316]

Absolutely! I kept holding my breath and I wasn't there!

[@kingkong7617]

A easy way to clean up the algae in the pond is to aerate the water and the algae will disappear. I don't think you should press your luck depending on the mower deck holding you up. If you start sliding, the deck will slide with you into the pond, so you should be safe rather than sorry. You be careful around that pond. I had a friend of mine drown in a pond after the tractor pinned him under the water.

[@flashtech6492]

aeration will most defiantly not take care of his algae problem read a book...get some information. You have to get it under control first...it will help curtail it for awhile but its not going to eliminate it...

[@theburnhams2925]

ALSO! (at the end) Thanks for letting your light shine. How apropos to find a text which even dealt with the very same kind of vegetation you were dealing with in this video...

[@debbieschmidt9316]

I think Kristi tries hard to match as close as possible - I only wish they were up long enough to read the longer ones!

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Debbie, press the pause button. Easy to pause the video long enough to read it.

[@debbieschmidt9316]

@@TractorTimewithTim tried that, all of the “screen info” covers much of it. I usually have my phone handy and have looked them up if not familiar. I love that you include them!

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Hard for us to leave them up any longer...folks tune out and it costs us in KZbin terms.

[@rickvaughan8993]

So my comment is on the pond itself! Not trying to troll. Just looking ahead. Check out Peak O2 pond aeration. Having a small 1/2 acre pond since 1992 and finally being able to install this system this past fall has made a world of difference in the water quality. And saved having to use chemicals to try to contain vegetation. And knock on wood as of now 6/2/2021 there is no vegetation moss on the water surface. I am in Missouri 50 miles west of St Louis. We also had cold enough temperatures that the pond froze except about 20 foot circles around the 2 emitters. That never froze. The water fowl loved it. One day there was so many geese you could not count them hanging out on and around the pond.

[@Itsa_Mea]

Wish you had a closer walk around of the unit. I enjoy seeing the mechanics of these attachments.

[@timraber6575]

A good operator on any piece of equipment needs to understand that there is always danger. That is why you have different sizes of tractors. You understand that because you’ve been doing these odd jobs all your life. It’s hard to convey that over each video. Great demo showing how easy it is for an experienced operator to get stuck and when to get outside help getting out of the problem.

[@Shane_O.5158]

21:30, that's why you use the loader lock Tim, about today's eppisode: i think if that mower had a longer reach, and a weight on the opposite side of the bucket to balance each side, you wouldn't have to drive down so close and get in troubble.

[@johnhenson7434]

I use to run a Reach-Arm on the Highways it can be an interesting mower. It had a 5' bush hog hanging on it.

[@theburnhams2925]

Tim, Those tire ruts will certainly last longer than your pondgrass would have.

[@bulletproofpepper2]

Omg, that mower is more then I paid for my tractor!

[@HeavyIronAcres]

I didn't realize this type of mower was available for front mounting on the loader arms. Good idea!

[@carlwhims2157]

Love the"self cleaning" function. 😋

[@bradmullins229]

I would really love to have one of those, trimming my boundaries vertically and around my pond, hope to see more on this

[@rowestreefarm5721]

Darn old good sickle bud. Haha love the new products. Keep it up

[@moose5.9]

They should add some wheels to it so you can float the loader and cut even

[@KevinBenecke]

Make the wheels as an attachment so they can be removed when they aren't needed.

[@CapeAnnImages]

Interesting video! I would sum that mower in one word, "versatility". I wonder if anti scalping wheels or skids would help prevent throwing & hitting rocks? And maybe an episode of leveling that steep bank someday to make mowing easier! Best Regards, Jay

[@downtotherivertreefarmllc8888]

That’s a different way of doing it. Good video

[@brianm7837]

As a pond owner myself I have the same problem. Also have the same issues you have with algae. Maybe a video with someone who maintains ponds would be good so we can all learn how to treat ponds to get rid of the algae. I've spent quite a bit on chemicals/algaecides and none seem to work.

[@martingibbs1179]

Your best bet is to introduce plants like irises and lilies to compete with algae for nutrients and to create shade. As for algaecide I would recommend Nishikoi clear waters but it will stunt other water plants.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

We intend to totally redo the pond sometime, so not too concerned about it right now.

[@photocontrol]

That's a handy mower! Nice that the power pack can be used for other implements. The self washing deck sure helps clean out the buildup lol!

[@otiskeithwatkins1679]

outstanding way to make a video

[@mailmanx69]

Great attachment and great video! As for the pond, I found through experimentation with my own pond that the easiest, quickest fix with the best results is a powerful underwater bubbler or two, depending on the size of the pond. I have a smaller 1/2 acre pond. The deepest end by the dam is 8-feet. I have just one diffuser sitting at the bottom of that area and with no other changes it cleaned up the pond algae in under 2-weeks and has kept it that way all summer (I just added it this spring). The water is clearer and the fish are more active. I assembled my own system using a Hiblow HP-100LL Liner Pump and run it at night only. I have it on 100-feet of weighted hose attached to a MEDIUM bubble diffuser as recommended by Hiblow. Here is a great video on the topic (I especially liked the recommendation to have the diffuser tied to a surface decoy so you can find the diffuser if it ever quits emitting bubbles): kzbin.info/www/bejne/enTan4mZrL-oqq8&ab_channel=FarmerBrad

[@brandoncaldwell95]

If you put a fountain in the middle of the pond and shock it, that aglea will stay at bay and won't look muddy.

[@cashxx]

Tim makes me nervous just watching!

[@terrysurface8663]

Good job, and great advice. If your getting stuck,,STOP. I have a lot of swampy wet area, and learned that 50 years ago. Dont ask me how I learned. lol Cheers from Virginia.

[@leelizvid]

That is a nice piece of equipment. Please consider leaving at least a portion of your pond bank "wild" for habitat. Not everything must be mowed!

[@RCPSU4]

Best thing about this implement is that it's out front. I'll be looking forward to seeing how it does mowing that ditch bank you've got. Could also work for getting under trees that are overgrown and haven't been pruned back in years.

[@jdfleetguy28]

Excellent video, been looking forward to seeing how you tackle you pond bank mowing. Hopefully we get to see some pond bank mowing comparison video’s with likes of the Mossio 3pt mounted flail vs this loader mounted brush cutter unit. After kicking up rock with my batwing finish mower which shattered the back glass on my 4720, this style mower would relay make me nervous with a cab tractor.

[@tylergilmore2050]

If the house floods, you'll wish I fixed the drain issues, look forward to seeing how you fix the drain issues and pond

[@johnwesley8327]

"I had no excuse last year and I still didn't do it." LOL

[@hardwareguy1]

I have to admit Tim, you and I both use our tractors in a similar way. Full out, and to the limit. I watch some youtubers that treat their tractors like show cars. afraid to get them dirty.

[@bishopspyroworld8921]

When ur working on a slight incline that tipsy feeling really gives u a pucker. Have you looked into having the pond dug out? I think it would make for better maintenance. Also for the algae, grass carp love it. When we had a pond we had them and also cleaned out the pond and composted the algae. Makes the garden easier to work up.

[@TsunauticusIV]

Pond maintenance can be a big chore. Especially on ponds that were not done right in the first place and/neglected over time. Tim probably has considered reworking the pond but that’s a big job. We have several OLD ponds on our family properties... and it’s been a surprising adventure learning about how things are now done in my state. So... depending on where you live... it can be a pain getting your local government to work with you on your pond work/improvement/enlargement. Even though it’s your pond... in some states/locales it can be quite the hassle. I know in my state... we have small ponds on our property and even tho the “dams” are tiny earthen things... we still have to get them inspected occasionally. We were talking with the inspector when he was checking the pond closest to the house and mentioned some day we would like to dredge a bit of the pond a little deeper and then add beach sand to make a small area to swim and hand out. He advised us that even digging a pond to “clean it” would require us to file the intentions with the county and it would require approval. Idk if that’s something that Tim would encounter where he lives. Also... depending on your state/locale... you might have to apply for multiple different kinds of permits too. It gets rather crazy. In all fairness... my area might be a lot stricter on these things because our area is one of the fastest growing areas in the country. It’s become a mess here over the last ~30 years.

[@bishopspyroworld8921]

@@TsunauticusIV i agree. Some places its a hassle with permits. I think it might be something to look into. I hate seeing such a nice property with a pond full of algae.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

We’ll get to the pond someday. Not worried about the algae right now, as we have bigger plans for the pond. Who knows how long it will be before we act on these plans!

[@olegig5166]

Mowers make nice land planes. It gets better every trip.

[@AdamMuhle]

Think of the views if Tim had slid into the pond!!!! :-P :-)

[@Kcolby47]

That is a handy unit. Interesting that the JDQA and Skid Steer is on the unit. Plus the hydraulic power pack offers additional functionality for other applications as well. Blessings.

[@andysmith5220]

That one piece of equipment would work perfectly here in north georgia. Honestly wish I was using it on my place today.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

The manufacturer is not far away!

[@WaltWW]

Need to add anti-scalp wheels to it. And make sure you wear a full face shield and thick long sleeve shirt or jacket when running it on an open cab tractor.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Never had anything...not even grass clippings thrown back at me.

[@cwolf8841]

It appears the PTO driven hydraulic power pack directly drives the mower. Their website doesn't seem to list costs or GPM. John Deere has a PTO power pack. HP20 Series Hydraulic Power Pack: • Thermal switch protects hydraulic system • Rear quick connects • Optional oil cooler unit I don't know enough but it appears to drive a variety of implements. I couldn't find a GPM spec. Has that ever been in a TTWT video? Why mow the pond at all? Maybe just grade the edge & put 40 tons of riprap rock or river stone around the pond? Tractors don't swim well. Humans don't breathe well underwater. Cheers

[@hugostiglitz8465]

I was thinking the exact same thing! One mistake and it's your last ever. I would just excavate the entire bank so that there isnt a bank and then RIP rap around it.

[@BillyP55]

I don't know that I like that mower much... I was holding my breath most of the video!

[@beezie22dub]

Nice video again, like comment and subscribe. This is a product I definitely want in the future.

[@bartonmd]

I almost got stuck twice on the 4wd 5320 at the farm this weekend. Since it's close to a mile up hill to walk and get another vehicle, and we're commonly by ourselves, I'm seriously considering fabricating a winch mount for the front of the tractor.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Would be helpful! Of course you can get a 2 inch receiver winch mount if you have a receiver.

[@bartonmd]

@@TractorTimewithTim yeah, I'll have to look under the front of the frame and see if I can recess a 2" receiver to not lose that 5" or so of depth, and see how it integrates with the chainsaw mount I made (which with 13ish miles of log trails, is about the most useful thing to have with you when bush hogging!)

[@bhepner1]

That was nerve racking.

[@levijames1869]

Tim ,you are scaring me!

[@johnmorgan455]

It would help if you soften the slope. Push a little of the flat towards the pond a soften the slope and you could mow much easier

[@PEI_Guy]

Tim you are making me a bit jealous with all the toys you get to try out. I could really use that mower along my driveway. Have a great day.

[@kdegraa]

What sort of driveway do you have?

[@PEI_Guy]

@@kdegraa I have a 900 yd gravel drive with grass banks on each side that are too steep to ride a mower on.

[@steventhomson2042]

Good video and great commentary. I like it when you explain back to some of the comments in prior videos.

[@RockhillfarmYT]

Very cool. Looks like a great application for the Mower honestly

[@ethangarland4006]

Make me nervous too. I had a little pucker factor going on and I wasn't even running the tractor. That's what i call pushing to the limit. Lol

[@mikegraziano1562]

Man I thought for sure with that rear right tire riding on the loose dirt edge, that it was going to give way & you were going to land right in the water a few times LOL! Time to make a more gentle slope & get rid of all the rocks & just mow it....but then again...we wouldn't see this new toy at work!

[@theburnhams2925]

Good job for a Ventrac, Tim. But you made a nice job of it. Nothing like having the "right" tool for the job. Of course, your caution and expertise operating "outdoor" equipment shows in the finished product. Next best thing might be a "big wheel" string trimmer (i.e. DR, etc.)

[@michaelevensen84]

Try cutting closest to water first, then as you go around cut outward from pond, the cut grass and shorter to ground will make for a slicker surface, try it out one time

[@buildingalegacypa]

That is a great attachment!

[@billupstateny9151]

Owner's manual page 7 indicates "For Cab Tractor Only" Open Station requires All kinds of guarding, shielding, wolven wire of equal.

[@donaldbull7118]

They give mixed messaging because they have an open station John Deere w/300E on the cover.

[@billupstateny9151]

@@donaldbull7118 valid point, if you look at product page for hydraulic mowers, they are all cabs accept the little mini. Actually not sure why the cab❓ If a flying rock breaks my cab window, I'd be quite unhappy, & not really think that it could have hit the operator. Could take weeks to get new factory curved glass, & it could happen again.

[@adama1294]

The pond could use some aeration.

[@craski]

Stay safe everybody, a mower operator at a golf club near me recently died mowing a bank which collapsed and he ended up underneath the tractor in the water.

[@hugostiglitz8465]

Exactly. I would remove the bank entirely so that you could just use string trimmer around it.

[@Jtwizzle]

@@hugostiglitz8465 Make it a more gradual slope so its safer for the mower ;)

[@ReinQuest]

You make me nervous when you drive near slopes like this. The pucker factor would keep me away and motivate me to get permits to redo the slopes.

[@haroldphipps3457]

Scalping??? Nope, consider it LEVELING!!! Leveling is such a nice word,, ,

[@donmcmannamy3409]

Saw a few times were you almost tipped over into the pond, wheel spacers may of helped that problem though the boom mower would have the better reach

[@TractorTimewithTim]

I have wheel spacers.

[@donmcmannamy3409]

@@TractorTimewithTim didn't know that. Must be small ones don't look there is any there

[@jamesjohnson6239]

One danger here is watching the mower and not the front tire ..over the bank you go !!

[@timkd5vmv583]

I have to say that watching this episode was quite nerve wracking. I just knew you were fixing to slide down into the pond a couple of times and when your rear tire came up I thought you were going to flip. But I know you were being extra careful and had everything under control. If memory serves me correctly didn’t you have a mower for Vinney that was similar?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

We have the boom mower (sickle bar) for Vinny.

[@schranzbert2020]

Hello the little tractor, twin tires plus weight would do well for such work. Greetings from Germany

[@HuserHelpers]

Hi Tim, is it a bush-hog or finish mower as far as the blades are concerned? Could that be used to cut back brush like the county boom mowers do? Jason

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Bush hog. You’ll see in the upcoming episode.

[@ryannorris5713]

I wish someone could come up with something similar but a little smaller that I could use on my BX. I have 2 streams that run through my property and it takes me almost 3 hours to weed eat all the banks.

[@kubotaforever9453]

Hey Tim! My son and I continue to love your videos! Are there any future plans on dredging your pond? I have a pond like yours too and am curious. Thanks!

[@PeterHonig.]

On our farm, we intentionally leave a wide natural buffer zone around our ponds. As such we are rewarded with a wonderful ecosystem where Red-wing Blackbirds make their nests in the Cattail reeds, where Great Blue Herons visit, where many thousand Fireflies sparkle in the night, and various species of frogs sing their songs. These types of habitats are quickly disappearing and need our stewardship to be restored. Kindly consider these issues the next time you plan to mow, as a wild habitat actually looks quite pleasing.

[@brianhina]

You could have got all of that with the Ventrac boom mower.

[@JoeMalovich]

but how does it compare?

[@brianhina]

@@JoeMalovich Better cut and less danger.

[@debbieschmidt9316]

Does he still have Vinnie??? Seems it would be the right thing to use, if he has it!

[@williamgaines9784]

More than twice the price of a Lane Shark, and would have to add 3rd function(the LaneShark uses 3rd function port, so mods have to be made for either). It has a bit more offset and the fine, and instant, angling is great, but it removes the multifunctionality of using a PTO mover at same time. Would be a fine addition to a fleet of mowing equipment without having to buy a dedicated boom mower, as long as one in the fleet had a FEL. The power pack possibly being able to run some other implement, like a boom saw or sweeper(?), might make it worthwhile for many. Since I already have the LS, I will stick with what I have, unless I hit Powerball/Megamillions 🤑. Great video as usual.

[@mi2tn]

And you think I do crazy things. :) I got the pucker factor just watching you. Hope you don't wear a seat belt because if you do and tip, you'll drown while the tractor keeps you under water. I noticed the times you got into trouble. Thought one time you were going in before the time where you got pulled out. Now you know the feelings I get around my place. That water and it's bank scares me. Take care.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Uhoh. If I scared you, I must be totally crazy. You have huge hills!

[@fishnfix2432]

Hey Tim, I have been watching your videos for awhile, and have never seen you use a PTO chipper. I have been interested in one, and would love to see you do a review of one.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Cannot find a company that wants to work with me. ...well, one is willing, but only with a low end chipper.

[@debbieschmidt9316]

@@TractorTimewithTim Try Vermeer?

[@MyClutteredGarage]

Another very handy attachment... or is it an implement? :)

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Good question!

[@KevinBenecke]

That's a nice attachment. The only thing that would make it even better would be if the mower was attached to a telescopic arm so it could reach out a bit further when needed in situations such as this. It would also be nice if you could swing it from one side to the other and even reach out in front with it.

[@dalebargen]

The Ventrac would have been a lot safer even without a boom mower. It could nose down that bank with no fear of tipping. The regular tough cut deck or the new flail mower would work great.

[@geoffg5024]

Tim has toys I didn't even know existed.

[@petercampbell4220]

I like the hydraulic adjustments. The one I have is manual.

[@ShaneZettelmier]

Scalping is basically the same thing as grading, it’s just the longer slower way of doing it. Lol Lol. C’mon Tim, you’re not stuck until the water hits the seat. ;) lol. Jk. Better to be careful

[@michaeldugger6964]

me thinks you need a mower for your excavator so you have more reach to the water

[@Chris_In_Texas]

I would like to give a bit of armchair constructive criticism. I could suggest when you were talking about the mower or parts etc, if you could zoom in and show details like a tighter shot. Keep up the good work! 👍 (Example of the fan, and stand you were talking about around the back side 19:50)

[@noelhohberger1188]

Too many cool toys

[@tinachambers4887]

FOUNTAIN TIME FOR THE OLD POUND AN SOME FISH HAVE A DAY LOVE FROM TEXAS

[@joecahill8165]

You should have that shoreline re-dug

[@TractorTimewithTim]

I did on one side. Search CX80 on our channel.

[@ShaneZettelmier]

Your bank is definitely an odd shaped on one side it’s kind of cupping and that would be pretty hard to mow. I prefer CYCLEBAR because of the reach and because it goes slow and will cut if you dip it down in the water. This is an interesting option. I still think the sickle bar would be easier around the pond but this would be great for getting under trees and brush. If it goes up 90° it would also be great for trimming hedges and keeping brush at the edge of a property under control. How thick of brush can you do with that?

[@jaywest4102]

This is an implement that could get someone in trouble in a hurry….just want to get another couple inches and SPLASH 💦

[@hugostiglitz8465]

I would just have the bank excavated back. This cutting of the bank is time consuming and dangerous to say the least.

[@danielchambers1958]

I sure want one Tim, but I think my B2650 with cab is not heavy enough . . .

[@TheOutFitPropertyMaint.]

I want one!!

[@workingmanrondoyle3287]

Great review Tim, I'm wondering🤔 if that brush hog will work on my Vermeer cxt -160 for doing ditch banks. I'll have to look this one up. Keep up the good work and God bless you both 👍👍

[@buckhorncortez]

The local conservancy district uses Alamo hydraulic rear mount rotary mower with a mid-frame mounted hydraulic boom mower that reaches to 20-feet to do the irrigation ditch banks. The mowers are on John Deere 6120 series tractors and they use a front-mounted, PTO-driven hydraulic power pack.

[@billupstateny9151]

Hope you are not suggesting a comparison❓👀

[@Flyfish325]

Beneficial vegetative buffers help to maintain shoreline stability and prevent erosion and sedimentation. Buffers provide good habitats for birds, and help to deter and control mosquitos by minimizing the habitat for their breeding and providing good habitat for natural insect predators such as dragonflies.

[@jamesmorse4110]

Very well stated.

[@lelandgrant8609]

you should use a large sickle bar mower

[@TOOLMAN4hvac]

Tim, time to get an excavator with a grading bucket to clean that pond bank up. Uho, another new toy, awesome. 👍

[@Tractorman-xj4gt]

Nice implement - again, Christy with the great drone footage and for the most able assist - talk about a help-meet !!! Thanks again for a great video !!

[@NYTROeast]

Pat's are great!!

[@truckerray7533]

Why didnt you have that tank lowered to help keep your weight balance at a lower center point when on that steep bank angle? Every little bit helps. . . .glad ya didnt tip over👍🏻

[@jamesberg3106]

I was wondering if that was going to happen. I got put into a ditch by a brush hog that the rear wheel wasn’t moving freely. Nobody hurt. Just stuck and embarrassed. Luckily we had a second tractor to do what you guys did. Glad you didn’t edit it out.

[@rydplrs71]

Safety sally doesn’t understand real life, she just screeches the hazard warnings over and over.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Yep.

[@jasone9]

I too am plagued with the "I got to get a little closer" mentality, I can see I'd be spending a fair amount of time getting extracted from ditches using this mower... but it would be worth it.

[@wizzlefits]

I bet that would benefit from using stump jumper blades. (Bevel on bottom)

[@loganrench5680]

Any turtles in that pond tim it looks similar in size to a farm pond I turtle fish in

[@kipcudd7253]

Need an excavator to really reach out there and dredge the moss out. You can make a smoothie with that!

[@shanebiggers8437]

Could you show us all the different angles it can adjust to on the next video please. And does it stay out to the side or can you move it to the middle like the lane shark?