PLACE YOUR BETS! Can 30 HP Tractor Mow FASTER W/10' OR 6’ mower? TIMED MOW!

Timed mowing of the 4.3 acre tower property with Old Salty (John Deere 3520) and RhinoAg TS10 - 10' flexwing mower. Tractor Time with Tim mows and compares this to mowing same field with John Deere 1025R with 4' rotary mower and the 3520 with 6' mower.
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[@paulmartin8212]

If the tractor isn't overheating, you are not abusing it. It's a tractor! Made to work. Great comparison.

[@anthonyroberts9034]

I am so jealous of "Flat & Straight" - and multiple times a year. My mowing jobs in Vermont are Hilly & Rocky - and they only want them done once a year, so the grass is 4' tall.

[@jasoncrowder2969]

Tim you have been so much fun to watch but you have also been very good at educating people and showing every aspect of what tractors can do. You have been such a blessing to your community and KZbin followers. I cannot wait until you post each time. The thing I love the most is your love for Jesus! God bless you and your wonderful family. Can't wait until your next video.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Thanks very much for continuing to watch. Really appreciate the kind words!

[@kevingebert4316]

I'd be interested in that screen cover and was great to see Ole Salty out exercising the gaskets.

[@Vikingknight2012]

Salty, the little tractor that could. Constantly surpassing expectations.

[@turdferguson5300]

Could we be missing the big picture? If you have a cab tractor w/ AC it doesn't matter how long it takes. On the other hand...

[@JohnBorgfjord]

I have noticed with mowing a 3 acre property. It needed some attention going over it at least twice. With a belly mower a front bucket on my 2305 open station and a rear blade for weight offset. It hadn’t been mowed likely never, an old horse pasture. Was there all week on it. By the end of the week I had lost 5 pounds.

[@Zanderthelab]

@@JohnBorgfjordwhy did you lose weight?😂😂

[@JCLawn51]

The 10ft mower cut quality is wayyyyy beter than the other mowers.

[@ericcrockett6396]

I agree that ts10 leaves almost a flail cut quality

[@JCLawn51]

@@ericcrockett6396 it's because the blades are rotating the opposite direction the tractor tires are pushing the grass down. It's better than a flail because he was cutting off stuff thicker than an inch and leaving a finished look.

[@jdfleetguy28]

Great video Tim. Love old salty videos, anytime old salty is the star, I watch it at least twice, to make sure I didn’t miss something. That mesh screen material, is very interesting. Would love to see how it in more detail possibly in a how to install it video. Sorry for the late reply’s, just getting all caught up with my TTWT YT addiction tonight. lol.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Good to see you back. It has been a crazy summer! The inventor is still working on perfecting the screen material.

[@brucealvarez9263]

Christy was working hard on this job, especially those trim under the tree shots! I like that you can clean that screen without lifting the hood. I don't take my loader off so cleaning the removable screen requires lifting the loader, lowering the brush bar then opening the hood. Clean and reverse the process.

[@bartonmd]

Although it's a little unintuitive, it's really cool that 3 gearboxes and 3 smaller blades are more efficient at mowing than one gearbox and one larger blade.

[@HillsSlashing]

I'm not sure its about the number of blades, but the speed : cut width ratio is better. less passes means less overlap.

[@bartonmd]

@@HillsSlashing when I say efficiency, I mean acres/hour and fuel usage. Although, I do gather that a 7' single spindle rotary cutter is harder on power than a 7' twin spindle rotary cutter, for whatever reason.

[@jasoncrowder2969]

While I'm in the tractor market myself, I was impressed with how well this 30 TPO hp handled that 10 footer. If handled correctly (as shown), you can do a lot with a little tractor if need be. Thanks Tim.

[@Chipgillette]

That would be YES to the grill covering material for a 4066r and a 5125r.👮🏻‍♂️👍

[@scottnicholson4959]

Great video Tim. Talked with you last February at the farm show in Louisville about the Rhino mowers. Ended up buying a cab Kubota L6060 and a Rhino TS12 to cut my 22 acres here in Campbellsburg and it does a fantastic job. Thanks for all your insight on the Rhino mowers.

[@johncrishock9317]

Tim, thanks for your unbiased comparison. Enjoyed the series.

[@ranger6x660]

I like the cover for the front of the tractor. I use my 2025R to mow and brush hog. Anything to keep debris from entering the front of the machine would be great!

[@BillandLizRitzi]

If that screen continues to test well it looks like it might be a good addition.

[@RCPSU4]

Tim, the title had me thinking of the great movie "Caddyshack" with Rodney Dangerfield. This was a neat demo of all three mowers and two different tractors. Salty's repair job looks good still so kudos to you and Chris on that.

[@tomoaktree4951]

Hi Tim, This has been a great comparison! These are important numbers for everyone! I would really like to see a 4th additional test. Use the same 3520 with the TS10 pull behind mower, and instead of going back and forth on the rows, try starting in the middle at the tower and building, and go min an ever expanding circle. The process of going back and forth adds a lot of time to keep turning around. I'm going to bet you a cheeseburger for both of you that it will shave off at least 10+ minutes. I live in northern ILL, so I will be happy to make the 3-1/2 hour drive to pay up in case I'm wrong. 🙂

[@Blast357]

Very nice test, thanks

[@williamgaines9784]

Tractor(s) TIMED with Tim 😊 The pull mower being wider AND taking, better words might be "not adding", a LOT of the backjarring bounce out of the tractor that the 3 point has, probably made it more pleasant as well. There are other disadvantages to the pull behind - longer and heavier trailer, more hydraulics, etc., but if one does a lot of large field mowing, those factors become less burdensome and more advantageous. To have both systems and the means of hauling them is the solution to a problem most do not have. You definitely get your jobs done.👍👍

[@tonycee1144]

the number says all for me

[@jimhancock5047]

Looks Good! Might have to design a hydro hose holder so the lift hose doesn't drag or snag while using the 3. Nice time savings!

[@LivingCommonSense]

It seems the limiting factor the 1025r is the terrain and rough ride. Short, narrow wheelbase means going slow and leaves HP unused. I'd imagine it could knock an hour off if it could pick up the 6' mower at all. Bigger mowers are preferable anyway. Less passes means less overlap potential -both in total inches but also in percentage of mowing width. Don't have to take a full pass if grass is thick and you run out of HP. Mash that hydro pedal and make up time when its really thin.

[@ricktieken7025]

Very interesting! And Tim, it will not hurt your tractor to work it and pull a constant load. That is what a diesel engine is designed to do as long as it has oil pressure and does not overheat. Actually, to run a diesel engine with little or no load is worse than a heavy load, but we won't go into that here.

[@joegomez5807]

Nice video. Would not have thunk the tractor would have worked with that large batwing. I’m smarter now. Thanks

[@TheSnakeman3]

I was guessing 2:50 with the 10. For me, it’s not the time, but the number of times around the field and the beating my old body takes cutting it. My fields used to be corn rows many years ago and it still shows so it’s a rough ride.

[@johnmedlin5894]

That is an interesting material, would like to know more.

[@coypatton3160]

I did not put in a guess, but to be honest, the 38 minutes was a greater time difference than I expected due to the harder mowing conditions.

[@1259bogs]

It’d be interesting to add the 3046 and the 5 series to this timed test just to show people what tractor they should be buying to efficiently mow this sized area

[@anthonywalls3281]

What it boils down to if you like mowing get the smaller tractor and cutter if you hate mowing get the bigger cutter and tractor😊🚜😎

[@aaronburford5701]

Tractor Tim at it again!

[@bryanschwertner3585]

For sure like hydrostat for “shredding” as we call it. I once got into 6+’ careless weeds with the old 800 Case “Case O Matic” torque converter 8 speed. Was ok with the ability to go straight or torque converter, but constantly shifting going in and out of thick weeds. The L4701 Kubota hydrostat is just easier. I could fairly easily turn that 10’. But my ancient JD on draft arms 6’ is so good! But sure enjoyed this one! Lots of good info! God Bless!

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Yep. L4701 would be a great match for this TS10!

[@ranger6x660]

The motors in these tractors will take almost anything you can throw at them as long as you keep oil and coolant in them.

[@MikeGetsItDone]

Great real-world comparison, Tim.

[@TomTalley]

Future programs: you mentioned roughness. We get hog damage here and repairing it is a problem. You might consider trying different techniques for smoothing out rough pastures ... Disk...rototill, aireator, drum roller for compaction. Couple of different objectives. Minimal tending so grass survives after processing, or get flat and reseed...I can send pics of the damage if you like.

[@jefflheureux440]

Yes, very interested in the cloth cover!

[@5critters]

I'm definitely interested in the experimental grille screen. I have a Deere 3032E.

[@kathygrubb8155]

Definitely interested in the screen cover! My husband and I just had a conversation this past weekend on if there wasn’t a screen like that on the market! Great minds think alike 😊

[@stuartpulvermacher6861]

Thats like mowing dandilions in my lawn . I think they duck when the mower goes over them. Hate when that happens

[@abecombs4349]

Yes on material lx2610, steiner 430 .thanks

[@Tony2tall]

Excellent demonstration! An under powered tractor needs an experienced operator and this isn’t TIM’s first rodeo!

[@mikedickey7903]

So maybe the factors are: initial cost of equipment, cost to operate for the given job, time to complete, safety/risk, and enjoyment. Are there any other factors you mull over on jobs like this one? Sure appreciate the comparison.

[@jimbachman1650]

I remember growing up plowing with a 4020 and I think a 6 bottom plow, there was a spot that pulled hard and you had to raise and lower the plow slightly to get through it. That evening when it cooled off, it pulled through it just fine as we had a few more HP with the cooler air. I wonder if you could see that mowing if your logistics would allow it, except evening could bring dew in the grass and make it pull harder.

[@wesbell419]

My employer has a 2017 3039R with 5022 hrs. Still running strong.

[@HCH9990]

It would be interesting to understand the 6ft v 10ft mower costs that gives you the 30 minutes time saving. In addition, I'm sure I'm not the only one who'd be keen to see Vinny put to the same test. The guards look interesting - do the 3 or 4 series have a reversing fan (either standard or optional) so you could blow them off from the cab? If not, it makes sense that you'd have a guard that avoids the screens getting blocked given their lack of easy cleaning.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

No reversing fan. They say there is not room.

[@johnakemann]

I'd be interested in that patent-pending alternative grill screen, my 1025r gets loaded up with grass clippings every week.

[@stryker5573]

I imagine somewhere nearby there is a young 24 yr old farm kid with 8 head of cattle that drives by this property every few weeks and wishes he could bale it instead of it just getting mowed!

[@tractortyme]

Nice comparison Tim, now I'll be satisfied using the old Landpride RCR2684 6' rotary mower in my TYM T474 for mowing.

[@thaynamite]

3700 hours is only well run in ... like new ... Its a nice field if u allowed u could to a tiny hay and bale session ... showing some mini hay equipment ..

[@jimmoir555]

Hello, Thank you for your channel. You have cost me a lot of money in a good way. LOL!!! You asked for comments regarding the front screen/air intake cloth material. I regularly have problems with that and would be interested in the material. I have a John Deere 2320 purchased around 2006. I am getting the beet juice Rim Guard liquid installed next week when I am passing the closest dealer. The rear Summit Hydraulics 4 spool is fantastic. I already had the Artillian front 2 spool for snowplowing and grapple activity. Thank you for what you do and keep them coming.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Thanks for the support. Your purchases keep us going!

[@robbiefarmer9243]

I think the tractor will handle the 10 foot mower on that property just fine. It's flat enough that it shouldn't strain salty too much. I believe things will go well. Anxious to see what happens. Thanks for posting.

[@DLTJR1959]

The 10 footer is doing a fine job Tim. I'm gonna guess the 10 footer is faster than the 6 footer by 20%.

[@leeward6762]

This seems like a trick question. :)

[@lcee6592]

Mr. Tim, will you be broadcasting your channel from the tower someday? Might be a big hit around your area! "Tune in at 8:00 to TTWT to see our next adventure!

[@dave.lawrence.3894]

Wonder how the 3046 would do on the TS10.. How much faster you can go... I enjoyed this, 😅

[@johntosten4779]

Interested in the patent pending product. Only thing is I run an LS mt225s. Would be nice to have more aftermarket stuff available for the LS line.

[@cashxx]

I was close. I was thinking about 2:45.

[@ScotWalt858]

Definitely interested in the new screen.

[@rtrshooter1911]

I would be interested in a scree like that for my 4052R. Love your videos!

[@Kcolby47]

I’m curious about the screen for my 4 series. Tall material and thistle fuzz really plug up the standard screen. I can attest that the TS-10 pulls easier than my 6 ft rotary cutter. Very nice machine that does a great job. Blessings.

[@kenw3586]

The grill cover material would be a benefit for the 1025 One would not have to open the hood to get the screen out.

[@Owaheeguy]

I think your overlap is fine. Our grass will be 3’-4’ when I mow, so I get what you’re saying.

[@peterkoster5053]

3700 hours worn out.... at work we have a 4520 with just under 12000 hours and we also have 2 john deere 5300's. One of them has 13000 hours and the other one has 17000 hours... and they are still running strong.

[@dalepeters9638]

Grate video if possible i would like to see a flail mower compared to these mowers but thats me just being curious thanks for sharing

[@floydferguson5366]

Great video!

[@hilltopfamilyfarm1978]

It looks like it cuts fine. I would be interested to see if cutting in the perpendicular direction so your straight cutting rows are longer. That may save you some time if you have to turn around fewer times.

[@aprilgeneric8027]

1:141.... if you've ever done mowing for a profession 5 days a week as your full time job, the length of the grass absolutely matters it dictates your speed of cut as the mower deck has to clear out the cuttings inorder to not bog down and or stall out.

[@billloffler8637]

I set my 3520 on A range,set the cruise control on at 2500 RPM and put my headphones on until the flashing low fuel light on. She likes dinosaur juice. Would be interested in grill screen.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Interesting. I think the 3520 is pretty stingy on fuel. 5.15 gallons for that whole project.

[@billloffler8637]

Seems like my rear PTO causes the tractor to use a lot more fuel when run at a high RPM than doing hard loader work or digging but that kinda makes sense. Enjoy your videos but the flat land makes me miss my job of mowing of flat golf course fairways when I was in high school. You learned real quick to judge the width of a 7 gang pull behind reels, no backing up. Get off unhook the back outside reel mower that wouldn’t clear and manhandle around and hook back up while the golfers laugh at you.

[@cowsgonemadd3]

3700 hours is not worn out. I am sure we have some late model International Diesel tractors with well over 7000 hours on them.

[@jamesharrod8733]

yea i would be interested with screen for my 2305 jd - always having to blow out radiator

[@matthewlacombe2146]

I’m very interested in the tractor screen. When I cut the high grass it gets so much stuff on it. My wife has to bring me the blower and the vacuum so clean out the radiator. I’ve tried so many things but I still have to watch the temp gauge.

[@shanesherwood343]

After watching your videos this spring and summer I’m starting to think a second older tractor for brush hogging running the generator and maybe the wood chipper so the tractor with grapple is free maybe the way to go

[@TractorTimewithTim]

It really is worth considering. And if you get the right machine, it can be a fun project (like ole salty).

[@VansHomeServices]

Id like to see more info on the front screen. It's a paint to pull the screens next to the radiator and clean them while I'm mowing. I don't see why they don't offer tractors with a revering fans.

[@Ned-p1y]

Very interested in the screen for my 1025R

[@nohand322]

I'll place my bet on the one with the best and Sharp Blades 😂😂😂😂

[@sxxkkllmmmclean7894]

Tim when I brush hog my pasture fields with grass breyers and iron weeds with a JD 5055e I go 2nd gear B range 1800 rpm set the throttle on top when I come to open end I hit the foot throttle start cutting let off the foot throttle I overlap the back tire width..6' brush hog i use.. Steve from WV

[@sxxkkllmmmclean7894]

Tim I put my loader halfway down so the debris doesn't get in the radiator also I bought a wide paint brush to brush off the radiator until I blow it off with a air compressor I keep looking at the temperature if it gets over halfway.. Steve from WV

[@jeffreycurrie3410]

I know you’ve said, tower is decommissioned. But, why don’t they pull tower down and sell asset.

[@Cav5419]

Guessing 3:02 time to mow with the 10’.

[@Cav5419]

Interested in the screen seen in this video. 3e series.

[@stevenleeper8495]

Since it's the same property, do you charge the same amount no matter the equipment? Also what's an average cost for brush cutting? (I'm sure it depends on the area of the country) I really learn a lot from your videos. Thanks.

[@angus4202]

ive got a 5 ft pulltype behind my 8n i can do just under 3 acres an hour in 2nd gear i wish i had a 6ft pulltype

[@Owaheeguy]

I’m interested in the screen cover

[@dalestump9495]

Tim why do they have large large acreage around the tower why don't they leave the farmer plant crops closer all they need is a half an acre around the tower and a driveway into it..

[@christophergherke446]

Tim, don't worry too much about the "help" comments. I think it takes some skill to cut golf course style stripes in a field with a brush mower.

[@davidstewart3827]

I wouldn't worry about missing on the corners, get them later as you would when cutting hay

[@jerrykelly7052]

I would like to see yah the rest of the trees with salty

[@Ned-p1y]

I trim the lower branches so I can get under the trees

[@315-snoblow]

Hey Tim, it’s funny I saw this. I’m seriously looking at a batwing for my cutting needs. And I want to deploy the 15’. But who knows if I go that wide. Anyways. You have had that cutter for a few years. Forgive me, I don’t see every video you make. Could you speak to how the cutter has faired since you started using it? Also do some videos on the overall condition of the underside. I have a 6’ and I’m cutting 25acres 6 times a season. It’s taking too long, and the cutter I have (brand new just 2 years ago) is already on its 3rd stump jumper. Yes the property is rough, but I’m thinking g that the pan design (different manufacture) is part of the reason for some of the issue. My blades can swing so far up that they hit the deck. Even with new blades, carrier and bolts. It’s first day it had already done it. Anyways. I’m really thinking Rhino and want to go to the TS12 to get as close as possible to the 15’ width. I know the TS series uses the ramped pan design have you had any issues with it?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

If your budget allows. You might consider the new tougher 12’ Rhino cutter. I believe it is the 4125. It is heavier and tougher than the TS10 or TS12. If you are having issues with your existing cutter not being tough enough, the 4125 will solve them! Answering your question, we have shown the underside of the TS10 quite frequently. We have had no problems with it. I’m still using original blades. I have a couple of tiny dents in the deck where a rock or chunk has been thrown upward into it, but nothing serious. Even the smaller Rhinos are built tougher than the competition.

[@jsstuff1431]

I’m definitely interested in that screen. Hit me up if you need someone to test it out on a 1025R

[@johnkemp4370]

Old farmers math: width of implement multiplied by operating speed MPH = acres cut in 9 hr day 10’ x 2.0 = 20. Obviously fewer turns will cover more acres.

[@tractorboy31]

My 520 when i brush hogged moms field i noticed a bit of build up on the grill but no temp issues. But im up another foot. Im guessing 2:30 minutes and yes i was thinking this before you said last chance. Be interesting on how well my 520 would run that since an m can. Up at buckley old engine show by traverse city mi i put out 36.4 peak belt hp. Not sure what i make on pto as the pony brake starts real hard and my pto clutch is kinda hard to redo. If i started running bigger pto implements regularly i would look to rebuild my old clutch and hace it on standby as i got a used assembly years ago when mine failed. ( gramps beat the shaft up bad by not having short enough shaft when raising 3pt brush hog up) if i had spare clutch ready i could swap it out in say 20 minutes. This year went bad coming home my 7.3 powerstroke i believe now has a hole in a piston

[@StandardLand]

Will you do a mulch day on those bushes next to the building

[@bigsway4414]

Ohh I enjoined this Tim. Early in the video you said salty was wore out with 3700 hours. I guess you were joking. My 3038e has 30 at the pto. I would love to lay some grass down with a 10 foot Rhyno. There around 14k though🙀. Can I borrow urs???

[@BrandonBigB956]

Next time devide the field into equal 1 acre lots and test the three sizes in the same conditions. Just a suggestion

[@andrewkirch5920]

I want to see that 10' on the bigger tractor and lets see what difference horsepower makes

[@tomkeating65]

Just the option between those two mowers? Or is a flail mower optional? Hmmmm. 🤔🤔🤔

[@RonCrumbaker]

I need that screen for my 2025R

[@JCWren]

5:55 At first I thought this was a joke, and that you were going to be selling TTWT grass clippings to install on your tractor :)

[@sinclairpages]

How often do you sharpen the blade on the brush cutters and how sharp do you get them.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

I don’t sharpen very much or very often. I use an angle grinder. I don’t even take the blades off to sharpen. I leave them very blunt. Say 1/4” flat blunt. Sharpen any further and they will ‘roll’ when they hit something.

[@richardweihert6233]

I can't help but wonder could you save enough time cumulatively by mowing it more often over an entire season. Time is money.