DEBATE: Is Christianity A White Man's Religion? Pan Africanists vs Christians pt1

[@HardlyInitiated]

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[@bigalescurlark8294]

Number one he keeps saying Asia well Western Asia was Africa wasn't it

[@bigalescurlark8294]

Also I'm a Christian because of my mother and she's a Christian because of her mother and so on no one really studies the Bible like that they just go on what was told to them

[@myagray4093]

@@bigalescurlark8294 This is not fact. You can read the Bible! Everyone won't because most are too lazy. But if you are going to let another man tell you about God instead of seeking the source and conducting the research then you are choosing to be a fool.

[@KingDavid1979]

@@HardlyInitiated "to anoint", and its derivatives are rendered in Greek by the verb khrio, the nouns khrisis and khrisma, "anointing" by the Greek substantivized adjective ὁ χριστός / ho khristós, "the anointed one, the one who has received the holy anointing" or by the Greek substantivized participle ho kekhrismenos ("the one who has been anointed) only Greek? Roman paganism christianism is pagan origin with the Virgin myth, we jew only say Hacohen Hagadol , anointed hight priest, Ezekiël 37-28 , no need jesus corpus delirium to build the temple . Christianism not belong to the covenant.

[@mstiffany]

How can I reach the individuals on this live: Jarrod and Melek specifically?

[@oashy]

It's crazy how when Christian defend our faith we "too spiritual" and don't have facts but when we do present facts now it's "too academic" ... like hello???

[@G87-w3i]

Y"all dont have facts at all smh so you believe in an talking snake😂 and who is Lilith by the way ?? Smh

[@IamBillionaireBen]

The best comment this far 💪🏾💪🏾

[@ImTiredOfThisChurch]

@@G87-w3ibut you believe a man can be a woman 😂. Stop taking the Bible literally to accuse Christians of anything you want

[@weziefaith5484]

​@@G87-w3i Lilith isn't in the bible but in the book of Enoch. Two different things

[@buedhabass]

@@G87-w3i name one fact the opposing side gave with cited evidence to back it up?

[@kayj2538]

Pastor Jerome said, “I know my Book.” That’s all I needed to hear. Lemme go read right now!!!

[@jchrystv]

What Melek doesn’t understand is that when you accept Christ you are in fact liberated. 1 Corinthians 2:14

[@lovefelix1566]

Galatians 5:1 my favorite verse ❤

[@C.5OH]

There’s a difference between Jesus and Christ

[@Crownedingloryhair_]

@@C.5OHyup, and Jesus is the Christ.

[@SaRaSin712]

@@jchrystv You know how ridiculous that sounds after the woman came on there and told you what her people had to go through because of Christianity just to get a education? Yall are really brainwashed.

[@freddierhymes3005]

INDEED!!

[@JustTeachMinistries]

Proud Christian here represented by two giants Damon & Jerome. They were studied, factual, and tactical debaters. What a treat, I’m so inspired.

[@andreford4622]

@@JustTeachMinistries Factual???? Nothing these two brainwashed negros said anything factual. Nothing in the Bible can be proven, and you can't call facts when the only reference you have is the book that your defending. There no grave site for anybody in the Bible, and neither Mathew, Mark, Luke or John ever witnessed, knew, or even lived in the same time period as Jesus but Christians accept this as facts....lol..... Look up the first christ, Serapis then get back with me.

[@LRoss-ct5ln]

😂😂😂😂 you a clown it was a bunch of dick licking & none of them are correct their saying the same thing people said in the 80's which have been debunked so these dudes pushing lies of what they been coerced to learn!

[@yawos9024]

I am a Christian too, but I think they are indoctrinated by western European lies. Tell us: Was Enoch a Jew? Was he a white man? In the book of Amos (9:7), it is written: 'Aren't you like the Kushites O' Israel'? Biblical traditions were more African than Europeans. It is only after the Romans coopted Christianity that the adulteration happened. It is even indicated in the Bible.

[@towardtheosis]

This debate perfectly highlights the problem at the root of the conscious community. It has as its central narrative a number of assumptions that, from an emotional standpoint, are quite moving, but they all fall apart under scrutiny. Jarrod and Melek are clearly passionate in their beliefs, but they weren’t able to provide a single shred of evidence to support them.

[@tisha1322]

EXACTLY!!!

[@jayfields948]

Facts!

[@Lastonesleftofficial]

@@towardtheosis comes down to victimization!

[@jamelgregg946]

I think Jarrod and Melek wrongly assumed that some of you Christians actually studied history.

[@nope...........]

​@@jamelgregg946- Has studying history liberated black people? If so, when and where?

[@tashakidd5204]

Our ancestors doesn’t have more power than who created us

[@ImTiredOfThisChurch]

Louder please

[@georgettacarvin7593]

Yes!

[@TrevWILL79]

Say THAT!!!

[@tinabrown9958]

Exactly 💯

[@ajtruth9585]

@@tashakidd5204 exactly. We shouldn’t be communicating with the dead or relying on them for anything!

[@TytusJones]

Damon and Jerome really shined in this debate. Praying that Melek and Jarrod consider the arguments made in defense of Christianity and come to Christ. ❤️🙏🏾❤️

[@WarriorWomann]

Right on sis ❤

[@gamerelated510]

Damon & Jerome clearly lost that debate

[@TytusJones]

@@gamerelated510they had the receipts, melek and Jarrod had nothing but mythicism and pseudo history. 🤷🏽‍♀️

[@majose7787]

​@@gamerelated510then we weren't watching the same debate 😂😂 Jarrod and Melek got BATTERED!

[@majose7787]

​@@gamerelated510 we must have been watching different debates if you think the Christians lost 😂😂😂

[@curtisbracy6406]

As a scholar myself , I can honestly say I’m proud of Jerome and Damon!

[@ThePinkPrayerClosetPodcast]

If Meleks argument is that we are still not liberated, then he also needs to ask how has his world view failed to contribute to our liberation. Him using that liberation argument against the effectiveness of Christianity while arguing that we are still not liberated, and while suggesting that his world view is better than Christianity is at best.... duplicitous.

[@crespeakslife]

Well said!

[@jamelgregg946]

Critical thinking is required. He was arguing that the Abrahamic faiths were not organic to Africa. We didn't create these religions because they are not ours. Christianity was the invention of the Greeks to control the population within their empire from Alexandria, Egypt. After the Greeks lost power, The Romans took over using Christianity to colonize people in their empire. Then the Catholic Church used it to enslave Africans. Black folks are at the bottom of every category imaginable according to statistics. How has Christianity benefitted black folks in the long haul because it for damn sure benefitted white folks.

[@enterblackvoid]

But Christianity has had a 2000 year head start, and it has not unified our people or caused racism or suffering to end. Pan africanism is fairly new in the context of world history. It's not fair to compare the two.

[@theway9156]

Great debate. Christianity is indeed NOT the white mans religion. But is the religion of those who follow the truth, the way and the life aka Jesus Christ!!

[@jjj0026]

Yet every bible commentary except 1 is by white people. So of course people going to think it’s a WM religion.

[@tajgibson8776]

Christianity is a white mans religion based on the books I have read.

[@nunya54]

No, it is not the religion Jesus practiced.

[@theway9156]

@@nunya54 Christian means follower of Christ. Christ is the one we follow. Why would he call himself christian, he didnt follow himself lol. We follow Him. Christ said, "take up your cross and FOLLOW ME" (Matthew 16:24). And Jesus followers & disciples said we should be proud to wear the name christian and not be ashamed of it. Peter says this about being christian... 1 peter 4:16 "however if you suffer as a Christian, do not be ashamed but praise God that you bear that name" ✌🏾

[@CacaoFlower]

@@nunya54do u even know what it means to be Christian? obviously not talkin about what religion Jesus practiced, the gospel is Jesus died for the sins of the world and all u have to do is have faith and believe ur sins have been paid for by the blood of Jesus. We are human we most likely will sin again but just repent/ask for forgiveness and do the lord work by spreading the gospel and helping the less fortunate

[@Tavymckenzie]

These guys are super creative with coming up with the best hardest hitting topics. I’m literally getting my life. These are things that you can’t just talk about with other Christians or your pastor. I love it here!!

[@IamBillionaireBen]

Facts

[@Navifulfilled]

We need more conversations like this! So proud of my Pastor (Pastor Jerome) and his knowledge. This was a phenomenal conversation.

[@theway9156]

Definitely. He broke so much down so clealy.

[@kingdomprinciplesmarriage101]

I could NEVER get debated up out my faith in Christ because my faith in Christ is NOT up for debate with ANYBODY!!!

[@nunya54]

It should be if it's based on the Bible.

[@fruitsarelife7073]

It should be, you should be able to defend your belief and even spread it.

[@Blackie6063]

This is a prime example of scholarship versus two brothers talking out the side of their necks

[@ImTiredOfThisChurch]

Yes when conspiracists meet real scholars

[@jamelgregg946]

Real history is a conspiracy now?😂😂😂😂

[@ImTiredOfThisChurch]

@@jamelgregg946 yeah every single conspiracies your uncles threw at the Christians were met with force. You can’t come to a debate with claims like Christ was invented at Nicea or that Christianity came from Rome🤣 this is beyond ludicrous! It’s okay for your gurus to lose a debate… life happens so keep moving

[@anakingeek9538]

I'm from Central Africa and this debate is so actual and so acurate!!! I love how brothers Jerome and Damon brought evidences and facts, while the other brothers just came out with claims rooted on rubbish. I would like to know where I can have Jerome Gay's book

[@ConcealedLight-d4w]

Jerome's book should be on Amazon.

[@jamelgregg946]

As an African from Central African, I have two questions for you. Does your country control its own resources? Does your country use foreign currency? If you say yes to either one then you are under Western Christian colonialism.

[@anakingeek9538]

@jamelgregg946 The answer at your question if it's one, would still not mean what your trying to say. Sorry for your ignorance my brother. That's way too easy. Maybe you people never listen when they tell and explain you that there is no "colonialism christianity". Plus, Christ is not christianism. Christ never send those people to conquer us back in the days. I'm sure God used their corrupted minds to reach us but He never sent them. You african never blaim your elders and ancestors who sold our brothers (as slaves) and our lands. No. You want to blame Christ while those false God in whom you used to put your faith and trust in could not protect you or even prevent you from being enslaved or colonised. I pray that you finally understand the truth and the reality of who Jesus really is. You really need to stop to look for guilties elsewhere

[@jamescarter5041]

What is the correlation between being from Central Africa and the accuracy of this debate?

[@anakingeek9538]

@jamescarter5041 Maybe you didn't read the topic well my brother. Then read it again. In case you didn't notice, Central Africa is actually in Africa. And yes we african are deeply concerned with this debate. Does your question not even sound stupid, since you're the only one to ask it ? 😂

[@lovefelix1566]

Jerome Gay Jr., closing argument was 🔥🔥🔥🔥👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾🙏🏾❤️. Beautifully done sir!!!

[@ajtruth9585]

I used to listen to the hoteps until I realized none of them can show you the fruits. They’ll have you living in the past and living through what our ancestors did. Christianity shows you that there’s an intentional almighty God! He gives us a future!

[@jamelgregg946]

Here is a hotep responding. Black people are at the bottom of every statistical category conceivable. So since you Christians believe that you can show us hoteps something. When is the showing how Christianity is the answer for our people part going to happen because we are catching hell.

[@CandyCoated96]

Amen, so well said!

[@skunkpackstudio2406]

So no one wants to talk about the missionary crusade inquisition? Like we going to totally disregard that actually happened in human history huh?

[@cebrinachandler1708]

🎯

[@ajtruth9585]

@@skunkpackstudio2406 I hear you, but what does that have to do with Jesus Christ? Man has always been sinful

[@cptheartist]

This debate was over from the jump. The Christians won

[@kingdomofzionministries]

❤

[@mresoteric]

They need to get some true scholars in afrocentric cosmology. There are some really good ones out there.

[@vanessawilson3298]

Damon and Jerome were awesome . I learned so much . I received so much truth , Christianity and cultural history. Also this video clarified my thoughts. White men took the Bible and used it to dominate black and brown people . They misused the Bible. But that’s not religion that’s power. Christianity is our relationship with God through His Son Jesus Christ . Those are two different things . This was sooooo good . Thanks for this

[@daisyachiro6779]

Christianity means a follower of Christ it does not mention race, gender, etc. why are we complicating this?

[@nunya54]

Because it's a man-made religion and clearly not Jesus' religion when anyone studies it.

[@kevinwilliams8033]

@@daisyachiro6779 wouldn’t that be the definition of a Disciple?

[@CacaoFlower]

So simple even a child can understand as the lord says

[@tyestable]

Christianity is nowhere in the Bible. Yahusha (Jesus) NEVER told us we were Christian or to follow religion but to be followers of the WAY. Christ only! Not traditions of man which we see all in Christianity.

[@edifiedprayzr]

​@tyestable Christianity is believers that follow THE WAY of Christ as in Jesus CHRIST. Transliteration of Yeshua from Hebrew to Greek as "Iesous" pronounced in English as Jesus. To Jesus says of Himself...I AM the WAY the Truth and the Light. No man comes to the FATHER accept through ME.

[@ds98368]

Jerome and Damon were the definition of STANDING on business.

[@kingdomofzionministries]

❤❤❤

[@WintersLighthouse]

Mann…I have to say @HardlyInitiated YESS!!! I am not even half way through and I am so proud to be a Christian. This was a great debate! I learned Marcus Garvey was a Christian! This is different because many Pan Americans do not know or choose not to acknowledge in their history. God’s word- the gospel/the good news cannot and won’t ever be surpassed!!!! Amen! I pray seeds were either planted or watered. Amen!

[@jamelgregg946]

If you didn't know that Marcus Garvey was a Christian then I have to question how well you know your history. As a pan African it is probable I know more of the origins of the Bible than you as I study history.

[@SUMofALLfears33]

Who cares ​@@jamelgregg946

[@WintersLighthouse]

@@jamelgregg946 I am not ashamed to say there is a lot I don’t know. As I grow as a Christian, I depend on the Holy Spirit to help me gain knowledge; discerning truth from falsehoods. Remember the original sin was desiring knowledge outside of God to become like gods. John 14:26 KJV - 26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

[@WarriorWomann]

Wow Jerome and Damon, so proud! Well done fellas. You were clear, succinct and brought it out !! 💪🏼

[@bornagainchristian3742]

As a Cameroonian I can confirm what my sister Angela said. If the Africans don't joke with it why would you?

[@garynnbonds-jz1sq]

Thank you!!! They be looking at us like yall crazy😂😂😂

[@lilspongie44]

I am so thankful for the perspective and words of sis Angela from Cameroon towards the end. I am half Nigerian and AA. So being part of both cultures, I am aware first hand of African spirituality and how it isn’t anything to joke with or even identify with. Yet, many AA, with this desire to “go back to our roots” want to badly to associate with African spirituality when many don’t know the depth of dangerous it is.

[@C.5OH]

What’s dangerous about spiritually?

[@ThePoshMel]

Research who Makeda was and what role she (as a black woman) played in bringing the worshipping of the God of Israel to Africa before it was colonized. She was pivotal in forming the spiritual framework that set the tone for Christianity, way before the prophesy of Jesus Christ being born was fulfilled. The foundation for Christianity and Christianity itself has been in Africa way before the white man got there. Let’s focus on ACTUAL history.

[@crespeakslife]

Oooooh! Let me research. That's good stuff!

[@rydengood]

still not African & All most all African Americans is west African nobody writing a bible knew You or nothing about You in West Africa You ain't on one page in the bible like all black people I know grand mother had a white man hanging on the wall as jesus not a made up black jesus

[@stablsed309]

@@ThePoshMel I'll take your word for it - since you're insinuating that Africans were connected to the true God pre colonization, why didn't God stand up on our behalf against the colonisers? Did he fall asleep?

[@livelaughlovin_lifeafter50]

@@stablsed309 We have a tendency to generalize when talking about Africa as if certain things apply to every single person on the continent or even a particular region of Africa. You can have a group of Africans who were christians in a particular region but maybe there were a certain number who didn't convert to christianity who lived in that region as well. Just because christianity was in a certain region doesn't mean that every single person in that region accepted it and embraced it. It's just like in some families, the mother goes to church and takes her children but the father stays home and is not a christian. And there have been mothers in certain households who have even allowed their children at a certain age to decide whether they wanted to go to church or not so they may have stayed home with the father and didn't become a Christian. Maybe some of the people that were taken into slavery weren't christians and didn't embrace christianity although they lived in that region.

[@stablsed309]

​@@livelaughlovin_lifeafter50Thanks for the response - are you suggesting Africans that were Christian pre colonization were spared from slavery by God, while those who weren't were given up to it? If this is the case, why has God allowed even so-called Christian African nations to fall into pillage and disarray post slavery? The question remains - why isn't the Christian God showing up for Africans in real time, in a material way?

[@cynthiahoyi3925]

Omdzz , This gotta be the best panel yet!! As an aspiring christian apologist myself, I was very much aware of these two wonderful men- Jerome and Damon. I’ve watched many of Damon’s stuff on youtube and I have bought Jerome’s book “The White washing of Christianity”. Thank you so much for bringing them on. NOW LET ME WATCH ❤

[@Romans99]

The vast majority of black Christians are doing fantastic! …marriage…kids in wedlock…educated…a part of building communities and society.

[@Happey67]

Say it again. The truth and accepting God's principles.

[@jamelgregg946]

What institutions do you own? Name them: Hospitals, financial institutions, building infrastructures, universities and don't say HBCU's because they are not privately owned. Is there a proliferation of small businesses amongst you Christians because that is what is necessary for a real community.

[@Romans99]

@ The accusation was Christianity does not liberate black people…throughout the video I’m still waiting to hear what liberate means from “the African perspective” and I can say as a history teacher in the inner city communities people make choices that hinder and destroy them. They make say “I’m a Christian” but their lifestyle does not match the Christian lifestyle. So black people are not liberated unless they own banks and hospitals etc…what does liberation look like? My sons grandfather in law owns his hospital in Chicago, and I personally have a friend has own oil company in Nigeria and there are lots of other examples I could use. I gather you are in the USA…where have you travelled to in Africa?

[@d.miller6062]

Damon, we need that list of people! Great job!!!

[@angelajohnsonmusic3731]

This was a great debate! Please do a part 2. There is so much more to unpack! We learned something today! Mr. Gay and Mr. Richardson. Y'all better teach! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾🔥🔥🔥

[@glorifiedosikang7866]

All the ancestors you have reaching out to, how many has come to librate you? 😂😂😂

[@ImTiredOfThisChurch]

😂😂😂don’t start… please don’t I’m begging you

[@jamelgregg946]

Well, let me ask you Christian? What is your definition of liberation? Cause where I'm sitting black folks doing pretty bad.

[@cecitheot]

I’m waiting too 😂

[@joellekabamba9289]

Great debate, however, strange listening to Melek without any strong basis. As an African of which I am from DRC. Important to not just claim to be African without sharing where in particular in Africa he is from and at least share what nation and its practices he is from. Africa is a continent of 55 nations, with multiple of cultures. He is shared nothing substantial, nor his world view. Thanks for Damon and Jerome for sharing not only their convictions but backed it with facts and historical contents. As a fallen world you cannot assume there has not been any transformation in hearts. Let’s pray for those who are lost in their philosophies and not recognise they are in the dark.

[@iamservant8016]

I am in tears right now. All glory be to our Lord Jesus Christ.

[@tashakidd5204]

Yesssss, the issue is us not God🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾

[@Alfaunoh]

Melek really hit the nail on the head when he said Rehearsed. 1:00:03 The debate over all felt rushed and disingenuous. Damon and Jerome where arguing what they had rehearsed, but not discussing the perspectives. Why didn’t you all let melek and Jarrod expound more on their points? They actually had extremely strong points that needed more time to explain rather than to argue.

[@deepcover8184]

They never responded to the question.... why aren't black ppl liberated after following Christianity for all this time?

[@SoftWifeLife]

Its truly refreshing to see such intelligent Blk men. All of them have done their studies and its to be respected regardless what side of the argument you stand on.

[@VisionOnDuty]

Damon and Jerome, thank you!

[@Context1981]

Is that Billy Carson in disguise 😂

[@daughteroftheking5875]

Omgsh you got Damon & Jerome on here!!!!! Can’t wait to watch 😆😆😆😆

[@WarriorWomann]

They smashed it 💪🏼 ❤

[@SnippetsandNuggets]

These Christian men !!!🔥🔥🔥 Outstanding 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@JR01015]

*This was an absolute cooking by the christian brothers. They absolutely, fried, boiled and flambéd these other two “experts”*

[@jamelgregg946]

Well I'd like for you to define the word "expert," if you pleas😂😂😂

[@ThadisonSolutions]

This is a great conversation. Melek was hard to follow but I hope this truly educates the masses. Christianity is not a white mans religion

[@skunkpackstudio2406]

Of course it’s hard to follow when most of y’all have your mind made up on who y’all want to win lol

[@MizzleboyOnline]

Great debate on both sides. These brothers went at it with class. Very useful segment.

[@ElizabethSHowze]

Melek gets demolished and then moves the goal post every time😂😂😂😂

[@moet131]

I agree! He was just talking because he got lips as my grandmother used to say

[@Tavymckenzie]

I love when the show the panel, you can already tell who are the Christian Apologists and who are the Pan Africanists 😩😩

[@riapurple523]

That's literally what I said to myself before they even started talking lol

[@aliciarucker29]

😂

[@Tramaine108]

I didn’t know that I am currently in bondage - Man it’s 2024 and you still saying the “white” man is keeping you down while being a college professor… what😮

[@marianlindsay7787]

Good show. Bring Wes Huff to take on these non believers. Ancestors worshipers!!! Who did the first set of people worship?

[@jamelgregg946]

They worshiped the Creator dear. But if you studied some actual history you'd know that.

[@nathanjohnson90]

The Christian brothers have truly inspired me, this is a phenomenal representation of the church

[@15minutestoanswardprayer]

This is the best debate I've ever seen on the subject fire. Facts you guys are representing the Lord well. I think one of the gentlemen has a book if you guys can please mention your book again I would love to order it

[@kingdomofzionministries]

I believe Melek and Jerrod will be serve Christ once it’s all said and done! Great job

[@skunkpackstudio2406]

Nah they wouldn’t disrespect their ancestors worshipping a demon religion

[@ayannaelese]

Jerome and his beautiful wife have been TEN TOES DOWN for Jesus for decades. I met them in college as boyfriend and girlfriend and they were already in ministry! May God continue to use their ministry and embolden them to Defend the faith with FACTSand not feelings🙏🏾 great job!

[@charmedlife6933]

Spectacular display of Christian conviction. Revealing synopsis of other belief systems and the substance there of. All knees will bow before the true King and He won’t care the color or creed of His children.

[@Qedoshim]

This debate was declared lost, in my estimation, by the Pan-Africanist exactly at the 46:04 minute mark, lol! As soon as Damon brought in Ethiopia being the first Christian nation THEN cited that Marcus Garvey was a born-again Christian, it was over.

[@Robertsmith001]

@@Qedoshim What about Melek asking how much longer to wait for Jesus to save Africans despite 1000 years of slavery?

[@TheeFireOfGod]

@Robertsmith001How did African ancestors do more than Jesus? He believed their spirituality is better and worshipping ancestors helps them why haven’t they came back if they’re superior to Jesus/Jesus isn’t real since that’s the question !

[@C.5OH]

@@TheeFireOfGodprove that they “worship” ancestors..

[@Qedoshim]

@@TheeFireOfGod it’s called ancestor worship. Pray that they come to Jesus soon and repent.

[@majose7787]

​@Robertsmith001welp....the African gods didn't deliver us! Regardless of the length of time it took, it was JESUS who did the delivering from slavery - not Ogun, Mami Water or Oshun! 😂

[@jayfields948]

Damon and Jerome showed they were well prepared and studied from the jump! I love the work they did on Eric masons books… Urban Apologetics

[@lh3643]

This conversation needs a part 2 but with Professor James Small and Professor Kaba Kamene please!

[@jamelgregg946]

Do you think that the unstudied Christians could take Dr. Smalls their heads might explode.😂😂😂

[@kiykiyaaa]

This video needs way more views. The Essence Atkins video has 1M views. It was good but this was a whole meal.

[@_signedby_b4266]

Omgsh this is so good. I wish Allen Parr was a part of this discussion!

[@TheLightRoom22]

Yesss

[@IamBillionaireBen]

This conversation needs a number 2 with Dr. Umar Johnson as well! I would really want to see this conversation and add Marcus Rodgers to this along with Anton while keeping Jerome and Damon

[@beefaye18]

Team Dr Umar 💯….he will kill it 👏🏽✊🏽

[@JR01015]

Marcus Rogers or Anton Daniel would not be the right people to have in this particular conversation given it is not their area of expertise. Y’all just be following any influencer on anything instead of investigating their area of expertise.

[@majose7787]

​@@JR01015agreed. He simply doesn't have the knowledge or the sharpness to engage in this type of convo. I think Umar would really have met his match against Damon and Jerome

[@hopecrishom5836]

Oh Pastor Marcus would bring the smoke

[@hopecrishom5836]

@@JR01015Pastor Rogers would be a great candidate He’s more then an influencer

[@Tony-t5d]

As a black man I've always said that some black people give white people way to much credit.

[@Christpusher]

This was really good and definitely need a part 2.

[@joellekabamba9289]

Name which nation you’re referring to? Melek keeps talking Africa… there are 55 nations which one are you referring to?? As an African from DRC none of us like being generalised. Be specific bro. You are misrepresenting this continent

[@tylndaberry2720]

Really appreciate this !! Glory be to God !!

[@JackMdunge]

I love this channel, God bless u guys.

[@dominicwilliams7845]

Yes, more apologetics! The receipts need to be brought! Back up them Claims!!! To God be the Glory🙌🏾🙌🏾!

[@kimseals3458]

Every time they ask Melek where he got this information from he just wants to believed! Where are your sources Sir?

[@pastorcharlesstewart6356]

When Melek said “you rehearsed a way to respond, to defend Christianity, but you’re not addressing like like Jarrod said “let’s be honest 😅and not academic”! Is the moment I fell out my chair 🪑 😮😅😂

[@ralphnoel6642]

22:35 the Bible never even named the names of days of the week or month. We just use that for society not for our faith

[@eddiethomas2354]

Marcus your closing remarks was well said, in a great overall.

[@WarriorWomann]

Adam Coleman coming in with the hot facts!!! so good 🔥

[@TytusJones]

Adam deserves his own full episode!!!

[@richelletvforyou8324]

Adam said "I got time"😅 But it was already TKO for the kingdom win🙌🏽

[@sharons3541]

I am so appreciative for this discussion and hearing my brothers in Christ speaking all the truth I have been seeking the Lord about pertaining to our Christianty. Because I need to hear the truth spoken clearly about our faith in Jesus Christ. For one because a lot of these things I have been speaking to my nieces about where we were not coming in agreement with, so I pray now they will see it clearly. My brothers brought clarity with this discussion, thku so much brothers.

[@CrystalKlear876]

In Acts remember Philip baptized the Ethiopian he met. Ethiopia is in Africa. Ethiopia has one of the oldest Bible. Let’s talk about Messiah having wool hair and bronze skin. That sounds like a black man to me. What do I know!

[@IshtarLinqu]

Nupuqi Om-Re Khonectics chamber degrees will guide you.

[@queenchemine]

You know the truth he was all the way black when he hid in Egypt as a baby with his parents.

[@CrystalKlear876]

@ amennnn

[@Christusvinci]

Black Americans are not ready for the truth. Jesus Christ doesn't look sub Saharan okay, why? Because He didn't come from there, the shroud of Turin will help you with what He looked like But what is this information for a pride filled people Nothing😂😂😂😂

[@leticiachikelu.2109]

But everyone knows that now. That the Messiah walked this earth as a Black man

[@Speakeroftruth58]

Proud of Damon and Jerome! They represented Christ well!!!

[@ImTiredOfThisChurch]

This is what happens when you used to TikTok lives then get confronted by real scholars 🤣🤣 this was more like an exorcism

[@user-dh3qc3pq3g]

Pastor Damon’s response around the 153:00 mark was SPIT ON! It led to the notion of the problem not being Christianity, but “Christians” not submitting to the lordship of Christ and actually following God.

[@FeliciaCrabbe]

Dr Eric mason would have been good to have for this conversation

[@Hotlemonpepperallflats]

He would have been GREAT for this debate and well as Preston Perry!

[@Hotlemonpepperallflats]

And Sarita Lyons

[@tvm-growthisunlimited9023]

Ryan , I like the way that you expressed your personal interest in/for the topic

[@nikamoff5835]

Christian 🖐🏽One thing that really stood out to me is (the reminder) of how Important it is for us to read the Bible. However I was impressed by the research on history that the men did. Some of it was a bit over my head but impressed. I’m proud that these men are researching & discussing hopefully for (proper) TRUTH & understanding . Gods truth 🙏🏽♥️.

[@tigertigerhood1857]

❤❤❤

[@simplystacey218]

Somethings flesh will never understand of the Spirit until they live this thing

[@ajtruth9585]

Ryan and Tysean doing Gods work fr! Yall podcast is needed for our people

[@ConEnigma]

Microphone 🎙️ drop by Damon and Jerome. Site dates, source and historical information.

[@globalconcern4995]

Looking forward to part 2, and more like this.

[@goldengirl7625]

Yall shoulda brought Preston Perry on here again. He did a great video on this very topic with another man of God years ago

[@serenadewberry530]

We need a part 2!

[@NatHenrickClarke]

I think black folk need to stop debating religion, and start building together, we're never going to believe the same, your spirituality is your business, what do we do here on earth.

[@CacaoFlower]

Part of life is ur spirituality, the purpose of the gospel is to be spread among all nations, yes we all have free will and can believe or not believe it’s an individual path for each of us but atleast ur brother and sister can’t say they never heard when the day comes.

[@beefaye18]

🫵💯💯💯✊🏽

[@ImTiredOfThisChurch]

Why should people stop debating things??? Now you can’t just be living like a pig can you?

[@tyrellepogue9160]

no people souls are at stake pan africans are false teachings sending many to the lake of fire

[@ryanhumor]

Thank you for what you’re doing these conversions are great. Please get timer.

[@Sayless_Beloved]

Moderators have to do better at being impartial at all times although they may share similar views and sentiments with some of their guests. At the beginning, Melek and Jarrod sat there and listened without interruptions for quite some time, and every time it was their time to speak, they were almost immediately interrupted. I mean did Jarrod speak at all?! 🤦🏾‍♂️ 😂 Sincerely, a fellow Believer.

[@kiykiyaaa]

I totally agree!!!

[@annettawhetstone6463]

History is facts recorded. Are those facts truth? How can we know? We only have what we have. I was really wanting to hear each individuals opinion not, arguing against each other. Based on our culture, thats what we believe. I pray we all come together in love and truth.

[@missstrizz5252]

Melek is COOKING, THOSE OTHER BROTHERS READ THOSE European BOOKS AND THEY'RE NOT VIBRATING ON A HIGH ENOUGH FREQUENCY TO UNDERSTAND WHERE HE IS COMING FROM!

[@NOREAZONJD]

Specifically, he spoke on something they couldn't even comprehend. He asked, "Who were we before colonization, and why didn't we use those tools to liberate ourselves?" I don't understand why people don't understand that. Damon was way too emotional and didn't really dig into the fact that we have, as a people, not valued our own cultural spirituality but disagreed with it, describing it as witchcraft. As Malcolm X once said, "WHO TOLD YOU TO HATE YOURSELF? "

[@ElizabethSHowze]

That’s the problems. Melek out here riding on frequencies, false history, and no facts. Damon was trying to explain and prove by giving historical facts, that prior to colonization, African people were practicing Christianity as their cultural and CHOSEN spiritual practice. For whatever reason, that’s hard for some to believe and admit. Also, and ironically, Melek nor Jarrod stated that some of the practices of cultural spirituality and indigenous “religions”were harmful and evil to Africans PRIOR to the sister from Cameroon having to bring it up. They were not being honest themselves in their glorification of Africa and its indigenous religions but quick to point out how Jerome and Damon weren’t being genuine when discussing Christianity.

[@tyrellepogue9160]

ion know what you’re watch you should got to 47:55 we not giving fake base answers to facts base sources they cooked them totally embarrassing I would go home and throw away all my like red black and yellow stuff lol 😂

[@Alfaunoh]

Facts. This isn’t even a debate. You have two completely different mentalities debating.

[@deepcover8184]

Apparently the audience as well.... are you reading these comments?

[@emuriel528]

Yall better teach on here! ❤

[@givingyahglory]

Here's an even better topic, Are WE "The People" of "The Book"? Israelites vs the World

[@CacaoFlower]

Maybe u’ll get ur answer in the after life but until why dwell on it? Some will say yes but that doesn’t get u into the kingdom, believing in the gospel and doing the lords work does

[@givingyahglory]

@CacaoFlower To Israelites, like myself, it's rhetorical but those who profess to be Christian and are Black/Afr. Amer., it's a question I believe one should consider. Historically Speaking. Because our path to Eternal Life rests on us keeping the Laws, Statutes and Commandments. And that's the path of the Messiah according to the Messiah.

[@givingyahglory]

@CacaoFlower Matthew 19:16-17 Verification!!!!!! Also, Jeremiah 31:36 “If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the LORD, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever.” Verification!!!!!

[@CacaoFlower]

@ the way to salvation is through Christ, u can keep the law but without faith in the one that died it’s purposeless only way to the father is through the son.

[@givingyahglory]

@CacaoFlower Correct but remember Christ IS "The Word" made flesh. What's the Word? The Law. And by the Law are We Redeemed by HIS sacrifice.

[@moet131]

Pastor Jerome shut it down at around the 1:50:00 mark. Thank you for that

[@maritawanazw]

Tysean and Ryan never disappoint when it comes to engaging content!💯 Damon Richardson looks like Kevin Hart btw lols.

[@beefaye18]

lol …. he sho do …. that’s the first thing I said

[@tanishastewart2754]

PREACH, DAMON!! 🔥🔥🔥

[@Tramaine108]

The solution from Melek’s perspective is being in Africa… which country? And why haven’t you moved there?

[@kingdomofzionministries]

😂😂😂

[@kingdomofzionministries]

The great civilization of Christianity is being restored! The remnant are risen! Choose ye this day! Whom you will serve

[@skunkpackstudio2406]

I serve no demon religion my ancestor would be upset at me for doing such a thing!

[@ThePinkPrayerClosetPodcast]

To "Zee" the young lady who said each culture should follow the religion of their own people is aligned with the belief of polytheism. If polytheism is the way then the argument of equality is mute because the concept of equality is derived from the belief that we were all created equal and therefore should be treated equally. If we were NOT all created equally meaning by the same God and given the same value then we need to adjust our expectations to assume that you should consult your religion for a better understanding of your value and what you deserve, AND polytheism would suggest that being of/from/led by different Gods may be the reason for different treatment and different values/privilege/and success. We can only argue/justify/expect equal treatment when we are created equally. So don't expect the same if we are not all of and from the same. This idea of having and serving different Gods abrogates the argument of equality. Consult your God for why you are not liberated and treated equally as those of other Gods if this is your belief.

[@brandigtv3546]

Whew this was spicy and entertaining!!

[@zinawoolridge8597]

Melek is making the same argument as the people in Jesus' time. Looking for Jesus to make political impact when He clearly stated that His Kingdom is not of this world. He came to bring the Kingdom of God to earth, not to establish a new world system. John 18:35-37

[@Dipity007]

The big take away don’t let people make claims that they can’t substantiate so many people get lost by false claims remember the devil is the author of confusion.