Israelites vs Christians DEBATE: Is Christianity A White Man's Religion? pt2

[@HardlyInitiated]

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[@mikemike-jo3qw]

@@HardlyInitiated I would love to see yall brothers bring on Godlogic...he is a brother that's very knowledgeable of the word of God

[@SirHensley-b1r]

@HardlyInitiated - bro wit da kango had me weak becuz he said “Free smoke, nah mean” 🤣🤣😭😂☠️💀☠️. His inner Hebrew warrior came out. He was not wit dat “Christian martyrdom they try to narrate to our fellow Hebrew brothers stuck in America💯. I don’t think we should fear going to hell if we drop the label of “Christianity” as the official tag or name to describe our faith in the Messiah.

[@keitalattimore7984]

It's sad and unfortunate to see these Israelite men on here, they don't represent the true life and teaching of an Israelite. Please get true, educated teachers like Dr. Kenneth Howard of Greater Awakening International or Dr. Kelly Richardson.

[@otek7048]

Adam is a moron Christ said the words of God is simple

[@otek7048]

It doesn't matter what Alfredo thanks if he thinks that Jesus is black because the whole Christianity as a whole believes that Jesus is white

[@Allthingsjohnette]

Before I watched this debate I was a Christian after I watched this debate I’m proud to state that I’m still a Christian.

[@DorianGrissom]

Well said

[@aboriginal1503]

both were written by the same white people. Africans were MA'AT before any of this. 42 Commandments and both stole 10 of them. James Louis beheaded 250 thousand Africans took their land and gave it to the Christian Church and they made him a saint... St. Louis murderer of Africans

[@aboriginal1503]

@@DorianGrissom 🤜🤛

[@rere8635]

Amen 🙌🏾

[@afrox357]

😂😂😂❤❤❤❤❤

[@deelowshow1925]

Y’all getting everybody on you guy’s podcast man!!! Great work fellas!!!

[@LovelyElai]

I didn't realize I was still in religion when i found out i was a Hebrew Israelite getting baptized following these doctrines. Im still a hebrew by blood but God had to deliver me from the spirit of strife, being judgemental, not to mention so focused on the flesh that I was missing the most important thing which was being lead by the Holy Spirit. All Praise to the Most High for sending Jesus and leaving us with the Holy Spirit. I had to go back and realize that it was the name Jesus whose name I called on one night when a demonic force was trying to bound my hands down. Them hands fled with the quickness when I called on Jesus. I remember the Holy spirit telling me to focus on the inner and not the outter when i was focused on head wraps and fringes. God brought me back to the foundation of the word. And it wasnt until then when i started seeing changes in my life and still is. I am more closer to God now then before. Amen and praise God 🙏 And the book of revelations say that he will have a new name when he comes back. That's stopped me from spending time worrying whether or not I was praying to the right or wrong name. These things take away the true focus which is being lead by God through the Holy spirit

[@EliyahuJabari]

@@LovelyElai Amen sister my testimony is similar when u add something to the gospels to be saved you’ve perverted the gospel. We have to continue to pray for the ones tht can be saved Paul says in 2 Corinthians 3 tht there’s a veil over their eyes. Galatians 3 its like they are under a spell of delusion. Christ is not the main focus but on their works and perfection

[@user-th8qf5ij4w]

You still believe that you are Hebrew.

[@LovelyElai]

@EliyahuJabari coming from that to now being on the outside looking in, I can see clearer. Paul once had scales on his eyes, too, and that's how he was able to see. They seem to not understand that God can change his mind about his decisions, too. I've read 2 scriptures already so far where God himself said he repented for certain decisions he made. Reading the Bible in its entirety will show you God, not just reciting certain scriptures for debates because according to scriptures he told the deciples to teach the gospel to the gentiles because Israel wasn't tryna receive Christ they wanted to stay bound by the law

[@LovelyElai]

@@user-th8qf5ij4w I am

[@roilynnbrown5890]

@@LovelyElai you said a whole lot of nothing, no scripture..smh...John 14:15

[@burkhousehold8880]

Loved listening to these Christians defend Christianity. There points were very clear and i appreciated that the delivery was respectful.

[@cynthiahoyi3925]

You shall know them by their fruits! The anger, the pride, it really shows who is following the true Christ. SMH

[@tzyyon]

@@cynthiahoyi3925 nothing is wrong with anger or pride , it depends on how and where it's directed

[@olandofuller5588]

No it don't. Both sides are wrong. They have some truth bit both sides are wrong. Maybe later I'll leave 2 separate post and may The Most High YHWH have the ones that need it read it and submit to his Will.

[@thuli4454]

@@olandofuller5588nah these cult leaders are wrong period

[@im_Just_A_Vibe]

You know Christ was also angry Luke 19:21 For I feared thee, because thou art an austere man:

[@rachelroberts6652]

@cynthiahoyi3925 so when Christ whipped the money changers out of the temple, was he showing anger and pride?

[@titosantiago3694]

Shouting and yelling doesn't make lies truth.

[@amram1305]

@@titosantiago3694 tito, if you are indeed Israel then you need to humble down and examine what you are saying. Your comments sound like you are on that drug called christianity that has fooled our people into believing the many lies of this kingdom.

[@danishiacolbert6531]

Not even a little bit

[@DIDDYTBABY]

2 Thessalonians 2:10-12 KJVAAE [10] and with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. [11] And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: [12] that they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. Says the Church full of pedophiles and homosexuals. Riiiggghhhhhtttttt ......

[@DIDDYTBABY]

​@@danishiacolbert6531 what was the lie told. You Christians HATE GOD. U are remedial and sottish

[@thesnflwr_]

If anybody has to shout to get their message across, it just means they need to improve their argument.

[@estalinduran6260]

Pride comes before the fall

[@coreythomas3633]

Why portray him as white if skin color dont matter

[@tabithamckenzie4672]

It’s the enemy who highlights color to keep us in division Ephesians 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

[@clarindamccants926]

Yes

[@JadeW1111]

@@coreythomas3633 exactly

[@Crownedingloryhair_]

@@coreythomas3633your focused on the wrong thing. Let’s focus more on turning away from sin & living a repentant & obedient lifestyle.

[@truthbtold5690]

Being a Hebrew Israelite made sense when i was a hurt and angry black man. Thank god i dodged that bullet.

[@dolomite205]

Israelite is a nationality not a religion...

[@mauricemuir7316]

@@truthbtold5690 A Reject has Spoken. 🤔

[@halftimehomes]

Willing to be separated from Jesus for eternity because you worship skin color instead of the God of human race is crazy to me

[@heyyenii]

Very crazy. All we can do is pray for them.

[@CargoP1984]

Separated from Jesus? How?

[@ShawnCman]

It's crazy to you because you don't read your Bible. In Deuteronomy 32:8, God separated the sons of Adam.

[@roilynnbrown5890]

Why are you lying, it's clear that blacks, hispanics and native americans are the target audience, no one said color, If Israelites are lying they shouldn't be allowed in heaven I believe, but why would a liar like you be allowed in heaven?

[@avereysmith640]

Praise God for the “grafting in” of anyone who seeks Him. Love your neighbor even if they’re not the same color as you!

[@1nkredibleHunk]

The fact that their argument never goes deeper than the skin and body when the word pierces through the division of soul and spirit down to the the thoughts and intentions of a person

[@CrayDreZ]

That Part!! We using word! It’s giving my identity is my skin color instead of our identity found in Christ

[@FishFlags1780]

Who doesn't know the words of Christ? Atheist know the words of Christ. Everyone don't know the descendants of his people

[@Tonie-w6y]

Fake. Israelites poorly base their arguments on feelings not facts 😢

[@aboriginal1503]

both were written by the same white people. Africans were MA'AT before any of this. 42 Commandments and both stole 10 of them. James Louis beheaded 250 thousand Africans took their land and gave it to the Christian Church and they made him a saint... St. Louis murderer of Africans

[@DorianGrissom]

@@1nkredibleHunk very well said

[@sarathebudgetbabe]

I am so happy to know that I have the Holy Spirit to provide discernment and understanding ! How can you know the character of God and read scripture and still believe his love and mercy is not for ALL people ! It’s absolutely clear !

[@Gracemercy07]

U read my mind

[@MSGoal160]

ALL PEOPLE OF THE BIBLE WERE MELINATED, BUT ROME WAS GENERALLY WHITE PEOPLE... CHRISTIANITY IS THE NAME OF IT AS IT IS WHAT ROMANS CALLED IT AS THEY FED BLK HEBREWS WHO BELIEVED IN CHRIST TO THE LIONS.. THEY DID NOT WANT TO CALL THEMSELVES CHRISTIANS... ROME TOOK IT OVER AFTER THE WHITE MAN WAS TOLD HE WAS STILL TOO YOUNG TO TEACH (BIBLICAL) HE TOOK TO TEACHING ANYWAY .... IT IS PROBABLY WHY SO MUCH OF PEGAN WAYS ARE BEING DONE IN THE CHRISTIAN CHURCH... YOUR DISCERNMENT SHOULD NOW NE TRIGGERED...

[@takerrialadson9320]

👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 well said

[@lionpreyproductions6529]

What does it mean to have The Holy Spirit? What is The Holy Ghost? I guarantee YOU DONT KNOW. This will be PROOF that you have no Biblical understanding. RESPECTFULLY

[@Musicbyqk]

Matthew 15:24 King James Version 24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

[@bunmiwilliams3454]

My Christian life will never change after listening to this and I’m proud to be one keep it up y’all!!

[@dolomite205]

Christ is not coming back for christians...only the israelites!! matt 15:24

[@_ColeJackson_]

@@dolomite205 Matthew 15:24- "He answered, "I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel." Just a typical narrative that is used blindly parrotted from other idiots. Jesus limited his locational mission to Israel because the Israelites had the old covenant, so Jesus went there, completed his mission, and established his new covenant which is for the “whole world”. So physically, Jesus went to Israel, but his Gospel is for the world. It's like how Muslims believe Muhammad was sent to the Arabs, but his message was for the whole world (not just the Arabs). Likewise, Jesus was sent to Israel, but his message was for the world.

[@_ColeJackson_]

@@dolomite205love how people twist it to fit their own narrative and how they just deem themselves without any proof such a joke

[@dolomite205]

@@_ColeJackson_ 😆😆😆 you are tooo funny

[@Jay-jp4nv]

@@_ColeJackson_not one verse was used to support what you said 😂😂😂

[@melissacarter1486]

I would like to see the Hebrew Israelite vs the Nation of Islam. I found it very challenging to listen to the Hebrew Israelite because they are aggressively critical, insulting and used profane language that wasn't necessary. Watching them interact while others spoke was disrespectful.

[@b6pablo]

Type it in on youtube you'll see plenty

[@kashfreegame]

The Christian man interrupted the israelites first

[@lilymarie9731]

Lol ur a liar ​@@kashfreegame

[@teespirit8465]

@@kashfreegamedon’t have child mentality

[@L12-w8x]

Stop...we are aggressive at the card table and on the basketball court...Old school teachers, coaches, professors are aggressive teachers... Paul was aggressive or bold just say you hate that Israelites are comfortable in their own skin...thank God for rough speech by my uncles.. they humbled me and gave me tough skin...we are too soft

[@titosantiago3694]

@hardlyinitiated suggestion: get a timer going in order to give equal time to each guest and avoid the perception of being biased towards or against any side.

[@cynthiahoyi3925]

very true, great suggestion

[@silvers_ink]

I don't like timed debates because people can just ramble and not address good points that the other person makes. I think it's much better to do it in the form of a back and forth conversation. That's why Godlogic is my favorite

[@joanngilmore7196]

Yes. The guest speakers go off subject or elaborate so eloquently that they lose the context of the hosts' questions. I thoroughly enjoy the platform of Hardly Initiated. The hosts are brave, well-spoken, and are paving the way. Thank you for sharing your platform with us.

[@silvers_ink]

@joanngilmore7196 Do you watch Godlogic?

[@PromiseRainn]

Or at least put the time for length of time to let each speak uninterrupted not necessarily for time limits.

[@EbonyBomani]

YIKES! I tried to watch in full, but my patience for the emotional outbursts is thin. Dogmatic debates are rarely fruitful, especially when people only listen to respond, rather to understand.

[@CrayDreZ]

The two Israelites are so rude! Calling names, assuming things about BK & Adam is just ridiculous.

[@lynzypooh80]

Right! You will know them by their fruits

[@MrBilly06]

I'm having a HUGE problem watching these brothas in costume headgear, shades and boxing gloves! Not listening, but talking to each other and not even sounding any kind of coherent! IT'S RIDICULOUS! These were the WRONG brothas to bring to explain their Israelite belief!!

[@lindacoleman-orso2852]

Good discussion! It seems like the 2 men without traditional views are honing in on one thing Israel. What I'm not hearing explained in my opinion is how they, obviously Blk would fit in more than anyone else? The explanation after Bob Marley didn't sound logical to me if both examples had a White parent. To make a big deal out of being interrupted, then go on, and on, and on, hammering this 1 point, quoting scriptures ( I believe out of context) did not prove the panelists point. I'm old enough to remember that intimidation technique of the person with head band. From my youth I saw those types did not go on & do well changing their economic statis or doing well in polite society. Race is irrelevent here. Dr. Umar while very smart, is right to preach respect your Blackness, calls White women "snow bunnies." I'm White, Aryan, pale blonde, blue eyes, was hit with this title! Offensive, derogatory name calling. I still walk away looking good & me even after name calling. He didn't help his cause at all. I taught my children make friends then you don't have to fight. Dr. Umar while doing many helpful things for his people is racist & promotes racism. These 2 guys with their back assward version of who is an Israelite same thing. They create division. I believe our government has been creating division. Glad Trump is in. He was with the brothers no body gaurd: Mike Tyson, Tupac, Blk models he dated. Did laws to reduce jail sentences, cash money to Blk colleges, Jesse Jackson getting checks & cool with Trump before. We need healing. What is inclusive? God looking down wants us all to get along & embrace our differences. We are all interdependent. Fredrick Douglas whom Umar quotes alot was a Christian, nothing remotely that fits into Pan-African! Like these men with the Israel thing going on, are not going to convince alot of people or make the world a better place. Good job Tyshean & Ryan. Keep on walking it out. Living on a higher plane above it all in peace. Don't get in the mud & wrestle with pigs. They like it & you get dirty! Bracelets a good idea. You are just money making machines, about that paper! God bless everyone. We are all trying to find our way.

[@tameekfollowerofchrist]

I caught myself loosing patience with this discussion the Hebrew brothers really irritated me as well but I’m only half way done and I have to finish the video for my own sake.

[@WarriorWomann]

27:45 perfect example of the disrespect… Both Hebrew Israelites are literally talking off to the side whilst Adam Coleman has the floor. Zero respect zero integrity… matches the ideology perfectly

[@nkashamasankofa1114]

Y'all are way too comfortable imposing on this conversation

[@christopherthomas8542]

If color is not a problem, why would they change him to white?

[@chief8976]

Who is “they”? lol if it’s not a problem why be concerned about it?

[@michaelharris8613]

@@chief8976 thats the point , because it is important . Thats why europeans changed his image

[@christopherthomas8542]

@@michaelharris8613 exactly 💯 👏🏽

[@chief8976]

@@michaelharris8613 it’s really not. Your skin color does not save you, Jesus does. It’s important to you. You idolize the skin color of Jesus over Him, Himself.

[@Trusting828]

@@christopherthomas8542 probably to keep people at war with one another…. People don’t read the Bible and the requirements of walking with Christ. They are focused on a skin color. In the Bible we aren’t even to have an image or symbol that we worship. Exodus 20:4 but people are losing their salvation because they want to focus on something that will not matter when we are called to the father who is of no skin tone but of light.

[@robertarichards7683]

They are so adamant on people correctly pronouncing their names, they don’t remember anyone else’s names🤣

[@itarahyahawadah9920]

Not true. Shut up.

[@JesusIsMyKingxOxO]

Right...BK is literally 2 letters.

[@Seabass1206]

thats what their cult teaches, they are filled with pride and hatred!

[@BRI2020-d8x]

😂

[@thegracetofollow4194]

You know!!!!

[@rhondabrown22rb]

Great work Adam and BK. Thanks for defending the faith

[@John316TOGODBETHEGLORY]

Amen Amen

[@KweenJanae]

They didn’t defend nothing ! I don’t know any of them personally but THEY LOST they made interpretations the GUY CAP and his brother made the most sense and PROVED IT WITH SCRIPTURE

[@phiapetre1400]

@@KweenJanaeyour opinion. I disagree

[@MarquitaMaverick]

​@@KweenJanae all that ink seeping into your brain 😂

[@Twinn144]

They love the white man they different prove nun at all😂

[@ejacfilms]

The real issue here is, the Israelite brothers have truth, but there are things the scriptures say that wasn’t stated, and their delivery could be better. The Christian brothers have a good foundation but lack knowledge in certain aspects due to historical truths. All in all, through the blessings of Issac and through Noah ( because due to their sons the nations were divided), they both charged their sons to do righteousness and not wickedness or else they would be destroyed. All this information can be found in the book of Jubilees. Side note, when a gentile sojourns among believers he or she becomes Israel. In Romans 11, it talks about the the branches who were cut off due to disobedience, which allowed the heathens access to salvation, in order to provoke the children of Israel to jealousy. But, the scriptures speak specifically to the branches which are a part of the root being grafted back in. P.s Let’s get back to reading The Word. Peace and blessings

[@Honsyy]

The branches were originally apart of the root. These are the Israelites mostly northern kingdom who were scattered into all nations.

[@ryry7886]

The real isrealites, who have kept Israel's culture and religious practices have been spread throughout the middle east to southeast Asia. The 400 years of acts 7 and that country's punishment for enslaving God's people is in reference to the 400 years the Isrealites were enslaved in Egypt. It's why the Egyptian dumynasty eventually had to move through Greece and Rome. Timothy 1 4 says we are not supposed to get caught up in endless geneologies, which is what the Satanists do. Jesus ended the bloodlines and made the gospel for Jew and Gentile. What truths are you talking about?

[@ryry7886]

What are the truths you talk about?

[@KidCavi]

Book of jubilees 😂😂😂

[@amcovered]

Speaking loudly and with confidence doesn't mean that youre speaking the truth! So you can be passionate but passionately wrong!

[@CrayDreZ]

Okay!!!

[@kaileru93]

They claim they love Jesus with their lips but their hearts are far away

[@NapoleonCollier]

Yeah the christians are far away from jesus muslims are closer to jesus than christians whats the fastest growing religion look for yourself

[@panamahunt]

You right about that a lot of people claim that they're Christian or a lot of people claim that they're so-called Israelites but they they don't love Jesus and all do you know that they don't love Jesus because they don't obey his commandment Jesus said if you love me you will obey my commandment

[@Seabass1206]

@@NapoleonCollierfastest growing relegion yet millions are leaving in iran and other sharia shitholes! muslims worship hubal , mohammed was graped by the devil in a cave then went ahead and changed everything the bible says

[@kaileru93]

@@NapoleonCollier nah, that’s not what I’m saying. And Muslims will die in condemnation if they deny the deity of Christ Jesus

[@kaileru93]

@@NapoleonCollier na that’s not what I’m saying, Muslims deny the deity of Christ and will face condemnation if they do not submit themselves unto Christ!

[@JosephClark-l2o]

I was homeless, got into drugs, went into prisons, then i got to know Jesus, He changed my life.. Now i make 22k weekly. have a home, a wife, a lovely daughter... A child of God. HALLELUJAH

[@LucindaGrace-lq1op]

How did you do it? Do explain please 😯 My family have been into series of sufferings lately

[@JosephClark-l2o]

All thanks to Maria Luisa Clare

[@JosephClark-l2o]

After I raised up to 325k trading with her I bought a new House and a car here in the states 🇺🇸🇺🇸 also paid for my daughter's surgery (Joey). Glory to God.shalom.

[@Blakkee]

Absolutely! I've heard stories of people who started with little to no knowledge but made it out victoriously thanks to Maria Luisa Clare.

[@LucindaGrace-lq1op]

How do I get connection to this woman you speak about!!?

[@EPGordon]

7:37 Captain, you represent your people... have some class my brother. H.I was hooking you up, YOU ARE A GUEST. This is the time to allow your wisdom to build. You not even ready for this debate opening your mouth right here. All your wisdom and ounce of power left you, right here. Check yourself. And I hope your people do the same, for the captains sake. I still got 3+ hours to watch. Your people are watching you...

[@yunghebrew1520]

The captain has been like this for years yet the Hebrew is like the fastest rising spiritual belief in America so I don’t think he’s representing us badly

[@EPGordon]

@@yunghebrew1520 glad to hear, sounds like he's better off the mic and in the trenches with y'all. Not hard to make a group for certain races and tribes. Years? He needs to evolve. I'm not saying go back to school... his etiquette needs to be sharpened up. He's a leader, Captain right? His team needs to assist him. He represents y'all. He is the face of all your organizations. Sharp with the understanding of the word. No one is taking that away from him.. It's time for the final avatar to come off... he knows what I'm talking about.

[@yunghebrew1520]

@@EPGordon he’s one of the faces but he’s not the biggest bishop Nathaniel is and he has the largest group captain just good a debating christians and there’s nothing wrong with being loud. Y’all should stop wearing your hearts from your sleeve. The Bible tells you to lift your voice up like a trumpet.

[@EPGordon]

@@yunghebrew1520 my brother. I'm a speaker. I'm loud. I'm arrogant. on my own. In a group of people...hes not in the play yard anymore, hes not just in a debate with 5 other people...hes not looking beyond himself when he interrupts the Hosts....if he claims to be what he is...WHAT I AM SAYING BROTHA is his posed nature...needs to be nurtured. And all that allow him to speak in these debates _ represents them! This movement is important and bigger than him. He needs to level up as a leader. He needs to rise in his wisdom. AM I wrong?? highly doubt it. he can be more. he needs to be more.

[@asfreeaschrissy]

STEPHEN DARBY is no longer with us but His videos bring balance, clarity and understanding to this subject. Blessings.

[@TheBeautii2009]

I agree with this. After listening to a lot of his sermons on this topic I was able to understand it better than I’ve ever understood it from anyone else.

[@PrissyTakeout]

I wish he was still here cause he would’ve been so good for this

[@pheyfit]

Right! I still watch his teachings from time to time

[@Therealcaleb.j]

Yesss

[@naturally_sanctified8454]

It sure does

[@SundayVibesmusic]

2:29:51 Thanks for having me on guys, can't wait to come back again and chop it up with the brothers. I'm a Christian and music producer with a degree in Christian Studies..Always looking to represent the true Christ of the Bible!

[@roilynnbrown5890]

Acts 13:1-4..obviously black men😁 APTTMH

[@decora2867]

It's interesting that they said they were the only respectful ones ONLY because they weren't interrupting when they were actually the most disrespectful and the rudest the entire time. Also, just because you speak loud doesn't mean what you're saying is true. I urge everyone to read the Word for yourself and ask God to grace you with wisdom and understanding regarding His Word. Don't just listen to someone, read it for yourself.

[@ItIsMeDeMi]

Well said and exactly. Tazaryach is always that way and I hate when they bring him on these platforms. He is rude, cocky, and loud as if he has to show he’s tough.

[@baquegood1ify]

I can assure you that the doctrine of IUPK is false doctrine. I am a Hebrew and do not at all agree with this camp. It's sad that these bad apples make the set apart look bad. I wish HI had chosen Ron Dalton or William Davis Ministry in this dialogue representing the Children of Israel. Camps are so overrated.

[@israel4reel787]

@baquegood1ifyEverything you said about our Brothers was false, and you will pay for your Slander.

[@reginaldhester7967]

@@decora2867 but was they the 1st

[@baquegood1ify]

@israel4reel787 lol ok unlearned one

[@cocoholliday9223]

This debate actually made me cry. I always wondered why the word of God is so confusing. Both sides are obviously so passionate about Jesus/God and his word, but yet there are so many things that set them apart. 😢 I wish the Word was as plain as 123 so no one can wrongly interpret it, and we can focus on fellowship instead of arguing.

[@Revivalintheword]

The Word is plain. Very straightforward. Christ paid the cost and died for the sins of the world. God doesn't care about religion at all. It's relationship. John 3:16-17 “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him. Colossians 3:11 In this new life, it doesn't matter if you are a Jew or a Gentile, circumcised or uncircumcised, barbaric, uncivilized, slave, or free. Christ is all that matters, and he lives in all of us.

[@ShaneGuyton-mj1mv]

The Gospel is part of the Word of God.

[@CincoMariposas]

@@cocoholliday9223 those that have ears to hear will hear. Amen sister. My God is not a God of confusion His word is clear and when it’s not we must study ourselves and ask the Holy Spirit for help.

[@GOD-611NOW]

We are the original Hebrews of the Bible. That meaning said, however, what the Isrealites fail to realize is through Yushua (Jesus) as we know him today shed blood, salvation was opened to any who accept him as Lord and Savior. The two folds (Jews and Gentiles) will become one in HIM! Salvation is no longer solely for the Jews and if you do your research people, you will know the original people of the book were not white. Nevertheless, it is open to all NATIONS (which is what God deals with) NATIONS!

[@bw112grafix6]

it mad e you cry lmfaoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[@Mrs.pope0626]

Every time the Christian brothers start talking, the Hebrew Israelites began talking to one another. Clearly not listening or giving them simple respect. So tacky.

[@mr.renaissancemts]

They really wasn't saying nothing tho,...that term Christianity and trinity are from a Catholic teaching not of God. So they have not a chance to get to the the camp brothers.

[@PhilFreee12Tribes]

@@mr.renaissancemtswhere do you think Christianity came from? Christianity is just a branch off of Catholicism that’s simple knowledge

[@Mr.J_the_Educator]

😂

[@lilspongie44]

Everything about this cult is tacky!😂

[@azariahisrael3898]

@@lilspongie44 ACTS 24 : 14

[@Iamkrystamarie]

To the Israelites your repetitive questions were answered. They said over and over they don’t believe that Jesus was white. They said over and over the behaviors you’re mentioning was wrong sinful, behavior done by professing Christians not Christianity it self.

[@_byefat]

Yesss!! It was like a one trick pony.

[@TedEast-i1b]

The 5th century mosiacs show Jesus as a middle eastern looking man. However many churches portray Jesus as the local population, ie Jesus looks like an Asian in Asian churches

[@mauricemuir7316]

@@TedEast-i1b Garbage he was a Black Man. 👍🏿

[@yunghebrew1520]

They did answer the question the question was why did they change Jesus to a white man if Christianity wasn’t trying to erase our history

[@MSGoal160]

Yet DO You still go to church on Sunday and celebrate holidays, that aint BIBLICAL AND WEAR IDOLS? YOU CAN CLAIM CHRISTIAN BUT FO YOU STILL ACT LIKE A PEGAN

[@sharons3541]

No doubt who is gonna win this debate, my true brother in Christ Jesus 💕 because with Jesus as our Lord we are victorious

[@BRI2020-d8x]

🙏🏾

[@tha-wah-rahhkahtahthah]

Amen

[@levi3494]

Good show, HI family! Thank you guys for putting this together!

[@moet131]

People of other beliefs make salvation so complex when Jesus made it so simple...smh Thank you Jesus for being my Savior.

[@panamahunt]

You are right when Jesus make it simple you see to the mind when something is too simple is too good to be truth this is why salvation is not by work this is why we just receive salvation by believing and receiving Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior this is why the Bible says that you shall know the truth and the truth shall set you or make you free you see when you know who you are in Christ and you put the flesh to debt Jesus will live because it is not I that live but Jesus Christ that live in me and the life that I am living in the flesh I am living by Faith in the son of God

[@AlijahIsrael]

It's clear you only read half a book

[@moet131]

@AlijahIsrael nope I'm familiar with it all

[@AlijahIsrael]

@moet131 you can be familiar but not fully comprehending and understanding what is being all the way said

[@moet131]

@@AlijahIsrael OK🙄

[@bakingbola]

You judge a tree by the fruit that it bears. Anyone who refers to the Bible as “GD book” (1:49:54)lost their credibility in asserting that they are of God. For the sake of argument if this debate was too dense to follow, you need only consider the fruits of the Holy Spirit to know who carried truth. Which side showed love, joy, peace, kindness, self-control? It most certainly was not the Hebrew Israelites.

[@Iso4634]

@@bakingbola your excuse is pathetic. Because they said a word, credibility is lost. Let's go back to some shit you said before that wasn't cool. Now YOU have no credibility since that's your measurement. Be smart not emotional

[@_byefat]

SPEAK!!

[@baquegood1ify]

I can assure you that the doctrine of IUPK is false doctrine. I am a Hebrew and do not at all agree with this camp. It's sad that these bad apples make the set apart look bad. I wish HI had chosen Ron Dalton or William Davis Ministry in this dialogue representing the Children of Israel. Camps are so overrated.

Your doctrine is white supremacy based .. it’s all your masters words.

[@coreythomas3633]

Why portray him as white if skin color dont matter

[@themiaparis]

I AM HOLLERING! Dude thought he was gonna intimidate Ryan and Ty! Ty called him a victim 😂😂😂😂😂

[@EliyahuJabari]

@@themiaparis u can tell they got a lot of pass trauma built up in them. It wasn’t even tht they was passionate just angry

[@Zakaryah.]

Yea...ha...funny

[@Seabass1206]

@@Zakaryah.go put your towels and curtians on and spread your ignorance! it makes a good comedy show

[@19TheWave88]

That was lame though.. throwing stones and hiding your had is very weak

[@Strategic111]

I have a question, I just wanna know , in the bible it says that his head and his hair is white, I'm just wondering, if his head is white and his hair is white, and his feet is a different color from his head, how do we determine what color is he ?

[@dolomite205]

hair on his head and beard was white *head and hairs)...feet burnt brass

[@Strategic111]

​@dolomite205 It says in Revelations 1:14 His head and his hairs Were white like wool, As white as snow So again if his head is white That's his skull And his hairs that's coming from out of his head aka skull Is white like wool, as white as snow, What color could he be, With feet as burnt brass ? This puzzles me,

[@dolomite205]

@@Strategic111 wooly hair(sheep) read daniel 10:5-6 describes Christ as well..

[@Strategic111]

@@dolomite205 To say whether he is black or white is wild, because beryl, is a mineral in many colors, correct me if I'm wrong, it's in blue, yellow, pink , green, But doesn't mention white or black And it says he saw a man and his face was like the appearance of lightning I'm still puzzled, it says a "certain man" he didn't say I saw jesus or God, It says a "certain man" appearance of lightning my guy, the color of lightning isn't black Lightning is a like a flash Like a light I think light and dark Are different shades from each other my guy

[@dolomite205]

@Strategic111 his arms and feet like on color to polish brass google burnished brass...what color is it

[@starquasiaguevara596]

"Whoever goes against the gospels can catch it." I like that

[@nikduke23]

@@starquasiaguevara596 ANYONE can get the smoke. Classic BK.

[@tzyyon]

There's only one gospel, Isaiah 61 and Christians don't follow or preach that at all

[@tzyyon]

@@starquasiaguevara596 there's only one gospel

[@dfro2147]

@@starquasiaguevara596 and that is not an attribute of God. God is love. Every Hebrew Israelite that I’ve listened to do nothing but lie and talk down to others if they don’t agree and a very rude and disrespectful.

[@Zakaryah.]

That sounded weak af coming from that big back Teletubby

[@STUDENTOFSCRIPTUREMANOFGOD]

When the Christian brothers broke down the definition of Christianity and what they are against. How is there still an argument? They said what you're against we're against, so what's the debate? 🤷‍♂️

[@Crownedingloryhair_]

They’re rude, as one of the Christian brothers was speaking to them to make a point during 27 minutes in, the other two Hebrew isralites was talking amongst themselves and not even taking in what was being said, especially after the two Christian brothers sat their and respectfully listened to what they had to say. The fruits are definitely showing here.

[@sonitalewis1084]

Matthew 7;16-20 you can definitely tell the fruit they bear!!! It’s crazy how they acting, GOD have mercy on them.

[@lilyjohnson1411]

Yes i noticed it too

[@tabithamckenzie4672]

They’re Manifesting sooo hard! And they think being blatantly is disrespectful regardless of what the other person said or did is ok… none of the Hebrew Israelites display the love of Jesus Christ

[@estalinduran6260]

Extremely rude

[@tiffinymartin1245]

FACTS!

[@dreamteamleader9098]

I am so thankful that these Christian black men, Christian being first dealt with this subject with mercy, Grace and love because for them to have anything other than that someone would have pointed it out. The body language of the other two gentlemen was very disrespectful it was almost as if the negative Spirits couldn't sit still while the word of God was being preached!❤❤❤ I'm super new to the channel but this is my first video and it's definitely got me subscribing❤❤❤

[@DeJaHill_5]

To eliminate confusion a believer of CHRIST = A Christian (a believer in Jesus CHRIST). Thank you hardly initiated for this!!

[@doula2014]

Correct... and not all Israelites are Christian. Not all of us behave in this manner. Not all of us follow bizarre doctrines.

[@UllysesGordon]

Kudos to my fellow Christians on the panel. Such patience in the face of not just the challenge of our faith and understanding of the bible, but in the face of such disrespect and hostility by the "Hebrew Isrealites". Racism is the wrong starting point for a world view.

[@Keziah9914]

What do you mean racism is the wrong starting point? It's because of racism and brainwashing our people on a mass scale to hate everything about ourselves through racism is the main problem. Case in point we and defend love the religion "Christian" religion version of our oppressors.

[@UllysesGordon]

I just watched all 7 hours of this. So challenging, as a not black person, but as a Christian, I think ChristianiTEA takes the win.

[@tzyyon]

Yet your ppl started racism. But whatever, TMH is racist too and only has expressed his love and respect for Israel, for He is the God of ISRAEL and NONE ELSE

[@EliyahuYasharel]

@@UllysesGordon of course you think Christianity took the win because Christianity came from your people the Europeans, the Greeks bloodline the Catholic Church, which were Romans bloodline Romans so of course you would say that Christianity may religion is not in the Bible, sir

[@Zakaryah.]

​@@UllysesGordon I've never met a Christian that was trying to keep God's laws while staying in that dumpster fire call Christianity, that wasn't miserable. I know your life is miserable Sir, because ignorance is a curse.

[@indea7]

The spirit of anger and pride is so prevalent on those brothers it’s so sad. You can’t be a victim for the rest of your life. Jesus didn’t die on the cross for you to hold onto the past…

[@jakelachance4408]

American blacks can't get over their victim hood. We all see it. Blinded by rage, God deprives them every day.

[@panamahunt]

That is truth what you're saying brother this is why man need to be born again this is why not everybody who claim to belong to God belongs to God The Bible tell us that those who are led by the Spirit of God they are the sons of God not those who claim and those who give you their opinion My opinion doesn't count your opinion doesn't count what count is what the word of God say if we stick by the word of God we cannot go wrong but you are correct when you talk about the spirit of pride The Bible says pride go before the fall and aunty heart before destruction The Bible also say that to man the way that he's going seems to be correct but the end is destruction so all of these brothers who are not making reference of the scriptures and just only given their opinion that is just their opinion soon or later they are going to be destroyed because the Bible says to man the way that he's going seem to be correct but the end is destruction

[@tha-wah-rahhkahtahthah]

@@indea7 yep that's right.

[@lucidmajor7580]

Respectfully, your statement makes no sense. Truth matters. It isn't a sin to be angry. God gets angry. As believers, when lies are told in place of truth we should be angry. The past will be revisited when Christ returns. He will avenge His people who were wronged. The blood of innocent people cries out from the ground. There are believers who have been tortured and martyred in the past that will be avenged. The whole "don't hold onto the past..." rhetoric is used to excuse the historical attrocities that have been committed against the true Israelites of the Bible.

[@ajsofly6946]

​@@lucidmajor7580you're statement is valid but same as the statement you commented on. When Christ died he died for all believers. Not just the chosen people. The reason Christ came in the first place is because the chosen people went totally away. He came to spread the gospel and teach the gospel and die in the flesh so that all people may believe and be saved. That way the chosen ones will see and turn back to him as well. Israelite and gentiles

[@vesselofhonor7572]

Israelites got another W as usual.

[@tehillahlove]

The problem with these Israelites was their character. Their character and behavior automically omitted them and made 75% of what they said sound like blasé blasé. I do believe that the Original Jews are black, but thats only part of the battle. You Israelite brothers need to work on attaining more Godly character, if you do that- your message will be received better.

[@avereysmith640]

They cannot display the fruits of the Spirit without the Holy Spirit which comes by faith/repentance in Jesus who is God. They don’t read the Bible the way it’s given, they’re taught what it says and it’s a false teaching. Example Isaiah ch 9:6 literally states Jesus is the everlasting Father

[@montaynedates9747]

​@avereysmith640 WEAK!!

[@ItsMe-xx9qm]

I’m clapping over here! As a Christian who just left bible study, I have no problem sitting a listening to prospective that isn’t my own. They were much worse in the day! Hateful and ignorant. More so angry.

[@ElPatronNetwork]

I don’t agree with the approach I grant you that but righteous people are very outspoken and vocal. Jesus was righteous he wasn’t a nice feminized man he was a righteous MERCIFUL savior. He literally yelled/scolded Pharisees and whipped them for teaching false doctrine to the children of Israel. If he was here today he would be doing that in the majority of Christian churches. Many pastors are heretical and teach false doctrine. Having faith in Jesus but disrespecting his 613 commands of old and 1000 of new is not a great way to show your love and faith for the heavenly family. Until you abide by biblical doctrine you are not faithfully loving God.

[@tehillahlove]

@ElPatronNetwork i agree. But we are not justified by the law but by faith through christ which means that when we say that christ is our savior, we become a new person with a new character. Christ was a very austere man for sure, but I still don't believe he would have operated the way these brothers did.

[@MarquitaMaverick]

I haven't even got to the start of the debate and Bandana Joe and Shades Mcgrady already can't shut up! Just geekin and goofin🙄 Broooo when are they not annoying 😩 We don't find identity in our race, our identity is in Christ!

[@CrayDreZ]

HALLELUJAH

[@alletsoriginal]

Very gimmicky

[@mache3984]

What a godly comment and a great representation of your beliefs smh.

[@MarquitaMaverick]

@@mache3984 it has nothing to do with beliefs, it's my opinion on how I feel. Just keep scrolling, you'll be fine

[@Winterscreations81]

Hosea 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children

[@SonofKhem]

I'm not part of your people, my Ancestors are Africans, Hamites. My people have nothing to do with you.

[@panamahunt]

You hit it on the head sister when you want to know if someone is of God they must be speaking by the Spirit of God if they're speaking by the Spirit of God then they will not be giving you their opinion they will be telling you what the word of God say about the problem so that's why we noticed that the Bible says by the fruits you will know them by their fruit you can know who's a Christian and by the fruit you can know who's the devil so we don't need to ask anybody to find out if these people are Christians are or if they belongs to the devil when you see the anger is acting up that mean they may have a demon of anger they might have demon of pride and a whole bunch of other stuff right

[@lilymarie9731]

@Winterscreations81 what law ?

[@Winterscreations81]

@lilymarie9731 dang🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️😔 if you don't know, then I can't help you. You're gonna have to read. You can't stay lost forever.

[@LamarDavis-do9sh]

How does your God look?

[@WarriorWomann]

So proud of @BK apologist and Adam Coleman Y’all nailed it fellas 🙏🏼

[@UrbanMissionary305]

Religion and knowledge without conversion and deliverance of heart is dangerous!

[@zacharyhunter2121]

What scriptures say that?

[@LamarDavis-do9sh]

I wanna see the answer to that!!!

[@tiggs03]

@@zacharyhunter2121All over the word actually, go read Romans to start. Circumcision is of the heart, not outward

[@jamescopeland-insyncwithgo1371]

I love to see how the believers showed up 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@BKapologist]

Thanks for watching If you haven’t - please subscribe. And tap on that bell to be notified when I drop new material kzbin.info

[@ForeverRochelle1]

The arrogance and pride immediately speaks volumes.

[@coreythomas3633]

Why portray him as white if skin color dont matter

[@ForeverRochelle1]

I don’t portray or focus on Jesus’ race, ethnicity, or nationality when I pray or worship because my connection with Him is about who He is (God) and what He came to do (offer Salvation). Jesus was born as a Jewish man of Middle Eastern ethnicity, fulfilling God’s promises and entering humanity to offer salvation to ALL who put their trust in Him. His nationality and ethnicity are significant in understanding God’s redemptive plan, but what matters most is His commitment of love, mission of redemption, and unity for all people. Let’s focus on His message and purpose rather than details that don’t change His invitation to everyone.

[@Maryamblessed]

@there was no "middle eastern ethnicity in Jesus day"!

[@TedEast-i1b]

Jesus us a middle eastern caucasoid man. Many blk cults try to delete the middle east ppl and their history

[@ForeverRochelle1]

@@Maryamblessed you may be right ….I don’t claim to know fully because I don’t major in the minor.

[@spiritrealm2283]

The Hebrew Israelites clearly won this Debate. 👏💯 If you don't agree it's because you don't know biblical scripture & biblical history, Period.

[@EliyahuJabari]

I love how that elderly woman came and set the atmosphere straight with Holy Anger I felt her passion she cared about them HI souls. You can see it was pricking them in their hearts

[@MarquitaMaverick]

What's the time stamp for that? I'm not losing 3hrs of my life to these idiots 😂

[@shaylaahava6413]

She should not even be on the panel. She served no purpose in my opinion. On top of that she is not permitted to teach men and I'm glad that she did not even try.... lol She was loud and wrong with when she spoke that no one knows what color Christ was. I won't provide the scripture.... however, the Bible tells you this and is true and unchanging. If you believe in Christ, then you believe the books that describe his skin color and hair. True historic artifacts that go all the way back from Christ's day show melanated or brown-skinned drawings of people with curly hair. There are Russian museums that still hold on to historic paintings that show a "black" Christ. In Egypt, many of their true drawings depict "black" people.

[@EliyahuJabari]

@ She wasn’t teaching the context in 1 Timothy 2 is having authority over men like preaching, taking the place of a man’s job she was literally giving her opinion on a debate not giving a whole sermon to a congregation. And her point was valid just because there were paintings of a darker messiah, YOU personally were not there to witness it so even if it is true. Great! All praises The focus shouldn’t be the skin tone but what he done. Because truth be told if he was any other ethnicity would you still accept him as your Lord and Savior? I would cus it’s not about where he was born or who he came through but what he’s done for me

[@byoung3171]

I didn't see that

[@Carlos-sr8km]

@@shaylaahava6413you’re possessed

[@Christians_canhavefun2]

As a Christian myself you guys absolutely represented christ

[@brothergilam4031]

@@Christians_canhavefun2 yeah....white christ.

[@tha-wah-rahhkahtahthah]

Amen sister

[@Crownedingloryhair_]

Christ never preached about skin colour when he first started his ministry. The first thing he said was “REPENT! For the KINGDOM of God is near”!!! REPENT = TURN from SIN! Who has sinned? for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God” - Romans 3:23 Who has sinned? ALL!!!!!!! So who needs to REPENT in order for us to get into the Kingdom? ALL OF US!!!! Why are we complicating Yeshua’s message? He was a simple guy you know. He didn’t over complicate anything!!!

[@tzyyon]

@Crownedingloryhair_ it's not about skin color but he still only ever preached to a particular and specific ppl group

[@Crownedingloryhair_]

@@tzyyon exactly. Everyone who’s sinned & fallen short of the glory of God! Which is EVERYBODY!!!

[@Crownedingloryhair_]

@@tzyyonexactly, and those specific people are people who have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. Which is EVERYBODY!

[@andreagregory2970]

You're right! Whether or not you are an Israelite you better make Teshuvah.

[@PhilFreee12Tribes]

You’re right but he did preach to only a specific ethnic group of people you do agree to that though and like the brother taz said in the debate why in Obadiah we see the nation of Esau being destroyed completely wether you believe Edomites are here today or not the scripture says what it says Obadiah 1:18 The house of Jacob shall be a fire, and the house of Joseph a flame, and the house of Esau stubble; they shall burn them and consume them, and there shall be no survivor for the house of Esau, for the LORD has spoken. So do you agree with what the text so with this one scripture your whole ideology of all being saved is out the window

[@micki447]

I'm a militant holy ghost filled believer. Some say I ain't saved because I am pro black. So glad you are having this discussion because I don't know what to call myself. 81 yrs old HBCU grad from.. Atlanta ..Margaret

[@josephmacias8340]

Whoever exalts himself will be humbled and whoever humbles themselves will be exalted… why hold onto PRIDE of something that is completely out of your control and not accomplished by your doing.. don’t be pro black be pro JESUS

[@Eternity244]

The man named Captain didn’t even show the Christian side the respect of listening. He was literally talking to the people in the room with him while they were talking.

[@virtuouswomen2021]

That’s because Hebrew Israelites are notoriously RUDE AND BELLIGERENT!

[@CG77777]

This! So RUDE! And UNCOUTH!! BOTH OF THEM!! One doesn’t even have decency to remove sun glasses , while speaking to others. Uncultured!!

[@jrenee34678]

@Eternity244 very disrespectful

[@feliciawashington4983]

That’s how captain is

[@nahilltop]

Because it’s like hearing the same old song

[@b.c6688]

Really smart by bk to define terms early on to help build the garden path for his argument, set a precident for truth and to establish a good foundation for what he is actually arguing for while simultaneously showcasing the differences between the two belief systems. Openings are important in debates and he started off strong.

[@CrystalKlear876]

I was apart of a Hebrew Israelite congregation for 10 years. We started out as 7th day church of God and transitioned. The new knowledge at first was beautiful but then it started become cultish. We stopped entertaining the Holy Spirit and became legalistic. We lost the ability to heal and perform miracles we became very self righteous. I do believe in many of teachings still and try not to participate in pagan holidays and keep the holidays from the scriptures. Many other things I stopped doing. Take the meat and spit out the bone. I believe we should still gather on Shabbat. Even God rested on the 7th day. It’s the one commandment that he explicitly said remember the Shabbat day to keep it holy. What’s wrong with making sure you have a day of rest and fellowship with the brethren’s

[@Elynne1]

There’s nothing wrong with that Sis. We are indeed supposed to keep the Shabbat and the Feast Days of Yah and no indulge in paganism. That’s what it means to live a set apart lifestyle. We gain our salvation through Ha’Mashiach (Christ), and our lifestyle and choices is how we worship Yah and remain set apart.

[@CrystalKlear876]

@ amen sister!!!

[@destiny2092]

Amen🙏🏽

[@JustNikki617]

But the New Testament addresses this as well. And if you read it you'd you'll be surprised what the Lord has said about that. In the end, follow CHRIST

[@estalinduran6260]

Amen

[@EricLanier2123]

I cant take you serious my brother talking about angels of revelations when you dressed like a hells angel biker with gloves and shades trying to say who has access to salvation 1:32:20 😂

[@EliyahuJabari]

Y’all need to get Preston and Eric Mason on this Topic for sure💯

[@Iamkrystamarie]

That’s all I kept thinking

[@Zakaryah.]

Why? They're not going to do anything but get demolished as well

[@crystallf26]

‼️‼️‼️‼️

[@TheRealDill1]

Facts

[@jamesemcgowan]

While I know they would make great points and represent Christ well, I’m not sure I would like to see them in a forum like this. So obvious that folks like the Captains on this live are committed to their ignorance and only interested in verbally abusing their opponents. “Pearls before swine” comes to mind.

[@Jude-e3b]

Cap complained so much about being cut off while speaking, but throughout the entire debate him and achad was laughing and snickering...interesting🤔. Also, I think ACHAD thinks if he states his points strong enough he's right😂😂😂

[@jamestaylor5007]

@Gamerseter SO You agree with Capt. No Decorum exceptionally soft men

[@Jude-e3b]

@jamestaylor5007 NO..Wouldn't call any of these men soft. However, when it comes to being disrespectful, they were the whole time...

[@_byefat]

Agree! By their fruit, you will know them.

[@tazaryach]

Yeah we did it on mute which is how you give respect we never interupted them period but we were interupted Y'all cry about any excuse... No one answered about white Jesus tho

[@nope...........]

​@tazaryach - Mute or not, it was still rude because you could be seen. Like two snickering middle school girls whispering about a new crush😂.

[@KristyRamirezgomez]

I'm white and Hispanic it would not change anything for me if Jesus is black. I praise Him for who He is and what He has done. Ain't got nothing to do with his skin color.

[@marysmith2308]

@@KristyRamirezgomez Amen

[@mbjay1994]

@@KristyRamirezgomez of course race doesn’t matter when race has been the basis of everything in the society 🙄🙄🙄🙄

[@6ft3soldier]

You know D well you and your ppl can't stand blks see how disingenuous you are.?

[@b6pablo]

Well hopefully your father is hispanic if not Jesus aint for you

[@lucidmajor7580]

And yet, the historical depictions of Christ and all Israelites in the Bible have been intentionally portrayed as "white". If skin color doesn't matter, why make the characters look white? If ancient Egyptians were "black" people in visual appearance, and the Israelites physically were visually mistaken for Egyptians on several occasions according to the Bible, logically wouldn't Israelites be "black" people in visual appearance? Doesn't truth matter when worshipping the God of the Bible?

[@briannzuwah9455]

At the 25 min mark, the quote from Frederick Douglass already ended the Israelite Argument which was essentially that Christianity celebrates slavery. Bl clearly showed that Frederick Douglass stated that’s what racist whites of the past was not Christianity.

[@natashagresham]

In conclusion, I’m happy that I came back to finish and witness the end of this debate. Last night was a lot, I could feel the tension and anger from the Hebrew Israelites and it was too heavy. I will continue to pray for my brothers. Ty and Ryan are so professional and I am always proud and in full support of Hardly initiated ❤

[@destiny2092]

@@natashagresham Indeed 🙏🏽

[@PromiseRainn]

Seriously cuz the first time tazariack went on his rant he would’ve been set straight cuz that one went on too long

[@nw1569]

When Jeremiah told people in the Bible If they continued to sell on the Sabbath he would “ Put hands on them” you don’t think he was angry? There is nothing wrong with having anger . The Bible says we can have anger but not to sin. There are multiple verses in the Bible speaking on other nations going into captivity as Bond women and Bond men. Paul’s writings don’t negate those future prophecies . Isiah 14:1-2 will come true as per God as they are HIS words .

[@shaylaahava6413]

Don't confuse anger with zeal for Christ. Even so, I think that people forget that Christ showed anger when people disobeyed His father and He does in fact get angry! Nonetheless, you just like them are entitled to feel what you do.

[@banyasharala6006]

God said the Israelites are a people above all people!!! Deuteronomy 7:6

[@Raigfreedom100]

You got God pager number or something?

[@NapoleonCollier]

Yes at that time frame until His final.revealation quran a mercy for all races because of the disobedience of the istealites

[@banyasharala6006]

@ incorrect. Romans 11:1-4 King James Version 11 I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. James 1:1 King James Version 1 James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting. Revelation 7:4 4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.

[@banyasharala6006]

@ TMH Yahawah has proven you and your wicked Christianity to be liars. God’s chosen people the Israelites which are the black Americans, native Americans and Mexicans of Indigenous descent are still the elect upon the earth. Jeremiah 31:35-36 35 This is what the Lord says, he who appoints the sun to shine by day, who decrees the moon and stars to shine by night, who stirs up the sea so that its waves roar- the Lord Almighty is his name: 36 “Only if these decrees vanish from my sight,” declares the Lord, “will Israel ever cease being a nation before me.”

[@NapoleonCollier]

@banyasharala6006 king james is his version not God new testament is from man not God wake up

[@keandrewilliams7374]

We need to get Dante Fortson, Truthunedited or Gates of Huldah in these debates. I love the passion and zeal however we need to get the knowledge out in a more moderate way and I know the three I named before will deliver.

[@majose7787]

Truth Unedited is a deeply confused man

[@dionnej1404]

Dr. Kenneth Howard too. He and his wife founded Great Awakening International.

[@Elynne1]

@@dionnej1404yes! Dr. Kenneth Howard and Dr Vaughn Parker would both be amazing for this debate

[@RestorationEdenMinistries]

YESSUSHHHH

[@EliyahuTheHebrew]

💯

[@isaacnava890]

To both sides, Can you send me the information on how to obtain knowledge of what is all paganism.

[@jg2807]

The Hebrew Israelite representatives were very disrespectful and dismissive to the Christian representatives, the people who submitted questions, and the hosts. Saying shut up, telling others they wasted their money to ask questions, or saying the people who believe not what they believe pretty much ignorant or stupid yet they believe in God. Would Jesus act like this!? NO

[@CrayDreZ]

Exactly!!! They are used to dominating conversations with intimidation techniques & they stick together to feed off each other in the worse ways.

[@scottwall8419]

I think we need to srop pretending these HBI people are Christians. They arent, they have a works based salvation. They deny the diety of Jesus. They beleive in reincarnation. They are racist. None of it is biblical and so they deny the identity of Jesus, the power of Jesus and the salvation by Jesus. They are no brothers as I've been instructed to identify brothers. They are of thier father the devil.

[@Director2024]

An offensive and offended spirit!

[@Peterpalooza]

Also, don’t get me started on the symbolism of the emblem of your “organization” with upside down triangles with regular triangles, these are clearly symbols of the occult. These brothers have been deceived and they clearly don’t have the fruits of the Holy Spirit with their burst of anger and hate for that matter. That’s the beautiful thing about The Holy Spirit, it is manifested through us, in the way we speak, in the way we act and in this case, in the way they lack humbleness and are puffed up with pride.

[@_byefat]

This! I was thinking similarly.

[@AdamM3377]

At one point, one of them also threw up the hook 'em horns with his hand briefly. Some old footage from the 90's from another camp showed lightning bolts in their symbolism. Followers of lucy love that one in particular. There's something fishy going on, and I personally suspect boule and prince hall masons behind at least some of these groups.

[@tisha1322]

EXACTLY!!!

[@_shaylamarr]

Exactly. Their character and fruit say it all. They have hardened their own hearts. They truly grieve my spirit.

[@kendrickferguson1133]

@@Peterpalooza facts

[@toughtalkpodcast6846]

The crazy part is these so called Christians think that Yahusha is a happy loving caring king,That dont hate and kill...Salute to the Hebrew Israelites and to all the 12 Tribe's Of Israel.

[@nickjones1314]

Believing in a god that was introduced to you by man is the crazy part

[@toughtalkpodcast6846]

@nickjones1314 That's why there's a hell for none believers and people that don't follow his commandments.

[@CrayDreZ]

They never said that they don’t believe that God is a Just God but he is loving & gracious but he is a Just God

[@EmaK-x2m]

Pls help me to understand what is the blue thing that the man is wearing on his head. RESPECTFULLY.

[@Message1inthesame]

Christianity was in Africa WAY before Europe. Let that sink in for a bit for you people who haven't done proper research

[@dyalloloper]

@@Message1inthesame when? All of Europe has always converted others

[@ajsofly6946]

​@dyalloloper have you looked into Ethiopia and it's religious views? And how how they're considered the only African country to not be conquered or controlled by European rule?

[@dyalloloper]

@ Ethiopia became Christian during the 4th century AD when King Ezana of the Aksumite Empire adopted Christianity as the state religion,

[@dyalloloper]

@ Why did the Aksumites convert to Christianity? Due to its ties with the Greco-Roman world, Aksum adopted Christianity as the state religion in the mid-4th century, under Ezana (320s - c. 360).

[@TrueWindigo]

@@dyalloloper This is some bad logic! This would mean the knowledge of Christianity would have to had been there BEFORE!! NO ONE SAID ANYTHING ABOUT A STATE RELIGION! Are you saying that you can't be Christian before state acceptance? Where there not Christians BEFORE Rome accepted it? Were there not Christians BEFORE the first completed full bible? Bruh.....logic much... Bro this isn't hard! Also there is a bunch of evidence. In the words of the 3rd eye crowd "do some research brotha!"

[@Nickymay]

It is so carnal to argue the color of Jesus. He is prob so sad at these futile debates. The HEART of The Father has no color. We are all His creation. Our efforts should be spent on reaching every nation and tongue spreading the gospel!

[@KingdomBesorahPodcast]

Shalom aleichem! What is the Good News?

[@Iyliyah]

Literally I’m disappointed in this episode content

[@Rapaahyad]

This comment embodied the effects of white supremacy. Sis if it's so carnal to argue the color of Christ why is he worldly renown as a white man?

[@KingdomBesorahPodcast]

@LifinwithLiyah Why, beloved?

[@Rapaahyad]

@@Nickymay This comment embodied the effects of white supremacy. Sis if it's so carnal to argue the color of Christ why is he worldly renown as a white man?

[@jacinthabrice5296]

The enemy has a form of deception for all that are traumatized. But praise God for true salvation for all.

[@UFO-WHEELBABY]

@@jacinthabrice5296 Luke 12:51 “Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:”

[@reginaldsmithjr.6910]

I knew what side that the anger and contention would pop up on before the debate even started. That constant fear of being looked over, slighted, and left out is the weapon that the enemy used to deceive them. Hats off for the mature Christian, Christ like Christian responses that anyone could see bare the true fruit of the Spirit of God the Father and our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.🙏🏼💪🏼

[@Jenrow153]

1:26:59 this argument is saying that if you are born a non-black Israelite then there is no means to salvation. So then salvation is based solely on a race?? What about the cross?

[@misslisa904]

That's nowhere near what is being taught! Color has nothing to do with being an Israelite.

[@DTcl6dw]

Yes salvation is of the Jews. Other nations will be taught righteous by Israel.

[@Jenrow153]

@@DTcl6dw salvation is for anyone who puts their faith in Jesus Christ

[@Jenrow153]

@@misslisa904 that’s what it sounds like

[@DTcl6dw]

@@Jenrow153 When Yahusa was sacrificed he was specifically for the 12 tribes of Israel(Matthew 15:24) That being said the other nations can be saved if they embrace the truth of who the Messiah is and what he looks like and who the true Israelites are. Because they changed the images to what they respected. That’s why Yahusa will reject them(Matthew 7:22).

[@dacallins0884]

As a hebrew israelite I would absolutely not do to My Caucasian brothers, what was done to me? I would not want to pass on that type of hate to other people regardless of what my people went through.

[@gloryhonor420]

YOUR Caucasian brothers have done NOTHING to you! The slave masters mistreated their slaves. God will judge the slave masters. He will judge the slave too.

[@Jaketheson144]

What does the Bible say? The hell what you think..... Revelation 13:10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.

[@88JSmooth]

So I guess you don't want this? Rev 2:26 - And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations: Rev 2:27 - And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.

[@vkjay13222]

Through JESUS CHRIST salvation is AVAILABLE to All.

[@NapoleonCollier]

Blacks are lost jesus only came for isreal at his time no christian no bible period its a changed book its hebrew not english

[@NapoleonCollier]

No u wrong jesus salvation was only for isreal he said i was only sent to save the lost sheep of the house of isreal not all ppl only isreal at his time

[@Angel-tw3ko]

@@vkjay13222 Yashua

[@commonsenselogic]

​@@NapoleonCollier Salvation is available to all. All will stand before Christ.

[@dj88bash]

I think the Israelites Brothers got some liquor in that cup 😂 he's disrespectful and cussing that shows a lot

[@xavierjones5730]

S/O to Adam and BK! The fella kept saying that they were respectful and not rude when out the gate he was telling people to shut up and his comments were rooted in hate. I’m from the westside of the Kingdom, I woulda matched their energy instantly. 😂 But, Adam and BK showed the true loving nature of our Father and that alone shows who the Spirit of Christ was operating in.

[@1JohnChapter4]

💯

[@mauricemuir7316]

Garbage they don't even read a complete Bible. 😩

[@mauricemuir7316]

Adam and BK don't read a complete Bible so they lack faith in the word of GOD, and LOST. 🙏🏿

[@BKapologist]

@@mauricemuir7316 how do you know that?

[@Iamkrystamarie]

Ryan, Ryan, Ryan how he and Tyshawn remainded in control of THEIR podcast is what I call masculinity 🙌🏾 mmm mmmm mmm they didn’t even address the little jabs just laughed them off 🫰🏾🫰🏾🫰🏾🫰🏾🙌🏾🤦🏾‍♀️😍❤️

[@estalinduran6260]

😂

[@UFO-WHEELBABY]

@@Iamkrystamarie yea because they weak brothers no backbone. Real men set the record straight when someone is not speaking the truth

[@charissesmith5522]

The disrespect though shows you absolutely do not have the Holy Spirit and the fact that you cuss and use God's name in vain 😮 sad absolutely sad. 😢

[@coryservant5727]

@@charissesmith5522 what's God's name?

[@Seabass1206]

@@coryservant5727Jesus, Yeshua, God, Yahweh !

[@bryanriser8939]

I’m Christian and I agree that we should not be robbed of our identity in Christ and yes I believe you can have black pride and be Christian but my thing how relevant is this conversation when the casket close and you have to stand before god in the afterlife. Where will you be sent to?

[@emtiedvessel]

The Hebrew Israelite contradicted himself early in the conversation. He said Christianity is a white man's religion because Catholics spread it through the sword. Right after that he admitted the Bible does not teach that.

[@yunghebrew1520]

It’s simple the Catholics version of Christianity was spread through the sword, not first century Christianity the Africans that were captured on the West Coast and brought to America did not come in contact with first century Christianity. They came in contact with Catholic Christianity Catholic Christianity was used to erase the black identity just saying that first century Christianity isn’t used for that does not negate the fact that Catholics used Christianity to enslave people

[@dineatrislloyd2921]

I always say the eyes are the window to the soul… why keep your glasses on brother? Let us see who you really are!

[@girlgetbeautiful7637]

I said this when I they introduced him.

[@Caleb9742]

@@dineatrislloyd2921 that's such a stupid statement. Would you tell someone who wire glasses that question? Y'all Christians be saying the dumbest thing and trying to make it biblical

[@CrayDreZ]

I thought of the same thing. We wearing them inside but hey idk it was just crazy to watch.

[@Denmark-vsy]

It's his right to wear sunglasses indoors or outdoors.

[@CrayDreZ]

@@Denmark-vsy it most definitely is his decision! It just made you think beyond the person speaking cause we couldn’t see his eyes

[@MelaniseWilliams-t4u]

God is deeper than a color. It is not about a race, a group of people, nor is it about a gender its a spiritual relationship strictly about a soul being saved by the blood of Christ .

[@gayle2020]

Ephesians 4:29 says, "Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen".

[@marianlindsay7787]

I would love to know what the two none Christians think about this? but I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you”

[@algreene05]

So then love the Israelite brothers don’t hate them, and everyone else should too based on the scripture you gave.

[@sherrelshepard4590]

Who hating on them, who on here cussing ​@@algreene05

[@chief8976]

They flip that scripture just like they do every scripture. They gladly say they don’t love white people. With ease.

[@benbannaka9933]

Where is that written?!

[@coraturner9383]

That was for the 12 tribes to follow amongst each other. What a fool if you think someone should love someone that abuses them. Then stay in your abusive relationships. Taking the scriptures out of context.

[@domdomdiddy3036]

The ISUPK brothers were just wrong and STRONG! And when their points were refuted biblically, they just ignored it

[@itarahyahawadah9920]

Then the Bible is wrong. They spoke none of their own words but straight out the book. Domdom....

[@judahking9181]

@domdomdiddy3036 Youy absolutely Wrong Joel 2 verse 27

[@Frankelmind1]

Prove it Prove it

[@misslisa904]

One thing about us as Israelites we use the Bible to prove our points ..book, chapter, and verse...not our feelings!

[@Frankelmind1]

@ Big facts!

[@ryandickerson4267]

I'M SURPRISED THAT MY BREWS DIDN'T BRING OUT THE FACT THAT CHRISTIANITY IS CREDITED BEING CREATED BY CONSTANTINE THE SUN WORSHIPPER THAT ANYONE CAN GOOGLE THIS FACT.

[@mm2801]

@@ryandickerson4267 these guys believe in the new testament

[@18cheyenneraine]

Pretty sure that’s Catholicism, they have other pagan practices.

[@anthonytimms2336]

Constantine legalized it

[@ryandickerson4267]

@anthonytimms2336 EXACTLY 💯

[@ryandickerson4267]

@@18cheyenneraine NO MA'AM GO AND RESEARCH IT CATHOLISM WAS ALREADY IN PRACTICE I SAID CHRISTIANITY SPECIFICALLY WAS FOUNDED BY THE ROMAN EMPEROR CONSTANTINE.

[@Rhapalott36]

Anybody accepts homosexuality is against god point blank

[@carlmac6175]

That was deep when he said the other nations will not serve a god that doesnt look like them . I remember going into church as a young boy and seeing the cross with jesus on it and thinking those people are special smh.

[@BGLEE001]

It's an example of the fallen condition of humans. Humans want to worship/create God in their own image, which is idolatry. We were made in the image of God not the other way around

[@much2lovely]

You went to the wrong church hun

[@JR01015]

Jesus wasn’t white when here on earth. Nor was he black. Isreal is in the Levant. We know what people of that region look like. Olive / darker skin Mediterranean looking people. Jesus would look more Palestinian/Iraqi/Iranian than anything phenotypically “black”.

[@carlmac6175]

@@much2lovely i know thats why i stopped going lol

[@DeaneshaForte]

​@@JR01015Palestinians, Iranians etc do not have woolly/nappy hair, dear. Black people and only black people have woolly/nappy hair. So you're wrong.

[@Kiamani]

This was one of the hardest episodes to watch. It was sad to see our Hebrew brothers so angry, disrespectful and prideful. They showed that they lacked the Holy Spirit. It is the Holy Spirit who teaches, directs, and corrects. So my question is, if the Holy Spirit isn't directing then who is?

[@trupstar3548]

Most have bless these men with full masculinity something you’re mistaking with anger……

[@Con10derRegimeBoxing]

These religions ain’t nothing but divisiveness at the end of the day.. just understand that God lives within.. everybody praying to different idols, it’s only ONE GOD at the end of the day and that’s the Most High

[@Dee-p6v6g]

Wow! Food looks mighty delicious! Definitely will be on my go-to list next time I set foot back in JA!

[@PVFLand1983]

Who's up and watching

[@Iamkrystamarie]

Me lol

[@alvinbiggsjr8351]

👋🏾

[@Jediwolf36]

90% of the comments are lost af…APTTMH SHALOM

[@mr.lchannel9760]

Smh Most of us will be lost at the end brother unfortunately..

[@Clip5299]

😂😂😂

[@reds.a2076]

Most of these so-called Hebrews are lost and demented. I mean talk about psychotic. These camps have been around since the late 1960s; so, what have they done to benefit the black American community? Scream and yell on the corners all day, Steal welfare checks, food stamps, and credit cards from their fake wives, Or how about creating arts and crafts with fake photos of the 12 tribes?

[@Upinsmoke510]

Fasho

[@SonofKhem]

👎🏿👎🏿👎🏿👎🏿

[@leonisaacs3512]

That was some heat right there.