A COMPACT 20TB External Drive! Western Digital My Book Duo

[@pranitakakde3813]

Just get a petabyte of storage, right Linus?

[@daniellittle7846]

ahahahahahahaha xd

[@Ultranist]

Indeed

[@loganranger4330]

Do 2 terabyte of storage

[@alexanderarias8519]

Best price per TB is the 12TB model @$35 per TB. Some of you guys might be looking for something worth every penny so there it is

[@TommyThousandFaces]

"Raid 0 FTW" until you lose or one disk or the RAID goes bad. I think it's not that smart having one of those things always connected to the USB port when you can buy a couple of those drives and set up a RAID volume on the machine you work on (if you're not on a Mac)

[@MuHammer97]

ye also dont get the point of these external drive units on Desktops, just use a Network device (a NAS) or get more internal storage.

[@NelsonSerrano]

+MuHammer97 if you no longer have sata ports available and you do not want to make a NAS it is a slightly cheaper alternative and just connect via USB. Many users prefer that convenience to doing a NAS... even if they have 5 sata ports available xD

[@Shuvojit69]

TommyThousandFaces These are wd red drives ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) built to take beating and it backs up on ur pc

[@dsofe4879]

RAID0 with mechanical drives is russian roulette, I hope you have a backup.

[@dot_boi]

Depends, my dad had a raid 0 setup off 2 wd blacks lasted 8 years as a boot drive and he used it daily. I now even use two barracudas in a raid 0 config just for my steam library and have had no problems ever since I set it up. But honestly he should be using raid 5 or something I agree because if he is storing footage that cannot be replaced...

[@geogmz8277]

Raid 0 is the Russian Roulette period! SSD’s or NVME are not failures free..

[@Mr_Wh1]

Amadax you say it depends. Depends on what exactly?

[@dot_boi]

Dan R. Hansen depends on how many drives are in an array as more drives means higher risk and the quality of the drives. A set of brand new WD blacks or golds are probably the best option because they are built better than say a WD green. I got seagate baracudas because they are much cheaper and very fast. My steam library is entirety replaceable so reliability isn't a huge deal.

[@leofisher1280]

Yes they are... Unless you actually break them or they run out of reads/writes then SSDs have a minimal failure rate.

[@baltmatrix]

Eber, please tell me you have redundant solution in place as well. RAID 0 is very fast but also prone to random catastrophic failure. I've worked in I.T. for nearly 15 years and have never seen a raid 0 setup last more than a year w/o one drive failing.

[@jezwc]

baltmatrix that’s interesting! Why do you think the drives fail? Does RAID configuration overwork the drives? I don’t work in IT, but I love learning :)

[@MrAggezzz]

Well my 2x 120GB Samsung 840 Evo RAID 0 has lasted 2-3 years with no problems. I use them as a boot drive and there is nothing irreplaceable in them so it isn't a huge problem if they fail.

[@baltmatrix]

To be fair all these drives that have failed on me were in an enterprise setup and getting hammered on day and night.

[@baltmatrix]

As a boot/primary OS drive RAID0 is fine. For the kind of data drives that Eber (and I) are dealing with the failure rate is much higher due to the shear volume of data being scrubbed on/off of the drives.

[@MuHammer97]

Its not only that thjey coud fail early, its just the plain possibility, that ALL data is LOST if only a single drive fails! RAID 0 should not be used unless it is realllllly necessary to get that kind of speed AND you have daily backups or you are fine with losing the data!

[@mikewiener4115]

Yes Eber (sorry if misspelled), I've generally found that having an external usb drive attached at boot time, does delay your boot time.

[@BasedJake1999]

It has to spin each drive up and perform a SMART test, thats probably why.

[@konsul2006]

I already regret getting one. - drives get too warm - encryption makes it impossible to access data outside the enclosure (even without password set) - problems with slow boot, and drive missing after PC reboot (the duo needs a cold boot or I'll have to unplug power to the duo - power button become unresponsive)

[@ChrisProuse]

I appreciate that it's a handy little piece of tech with some great storage density, and the video was incredibly well done too... though media production houses are stuck in the old way of thinking about approaching editing with scratch drives, and buying big expensive raids with connections that have enough overhead to keep up with multiple streams of 4K, which can be really pricey. It's 2017, and we've moved well past the days when we use to have internal system drives spinning at 5400rpm, when having an external scratch drive was important for several reason at the time... but today's NVMe drives have so much overhead data throughput that I've been editing 4K straight off our internal system drives (with overnight backups) intensively for the past two years on several machines... and absolutely loving it!! The overhead throughput is so high that there's virtually no need to be connected to a scratch disk anymore (unless you're collaborating on a project between machines), and then at the end of the project, everything gets archived to a set of the cheapest drives available for long-term storage. Editing on the NVMe's and then offloading to cheaper storage overnight at the end has both expedited our little production house's pipeline, and saved a lot of money... which means more time goes into the edit, and more money goes into camera gear :)

[@tams805]

I'm not sure what your point is? You use your NVMe drives as scratch disks (only nowadays you can keep a whole current project on it) and then archive stuff when you're done with it.

[@ChrisProuse]

My point is; unless you absolutely need to collaborate on media projects between multiple machines... it's time to stop thinking about using large expensive scratch drives to speed up your workflow, or to protect your system drive... because in 2017, the fastest storage available is probably already in your machine, and more than capable of keeping up, and / or exceeding whatever you could connect to externally. It's okay to edit on the internal NVMe, and then afterwards offload / archive your media projects to cheapest long-term storage available to save yourself some cash. I just think it's kinda funny that I still see people trying to edit 4K over usb... for reasons that made sense 10 years ago, or simply because that's how they've always done it.

[@lyndonalvarez2684]

What would you suggest for redundancy? I was considering this option for RAID 1 / Backup. I created RAID 1 with to external drives however I had one unplugged and opened the files anyways, now I can't seem to link them back together. It's really odd.

[@JarrodsTech]

My 4x 4TB NAS in RAID 6 is starting to fill up and I only make 1080p videos haha, going to need an upgrade when I go 4K! That little unit is really good pricing compared to just buying the drives alone, impressive!

[@MuHammer97]

please dont switch to a RAID0 setup, heck if you have RAID6 now please dont even switch to RAID1 haha

[@RetroTinkerer]

Why you didn't test both drives connected in raid 0 directly to your motherboard sata interface?

[@RetroTinkerer]

Also if you want / need say 4 of these drives it would be cheaper to purchase 2 of these than the HDDs sepparatelly! Thats insane! 😂 Hey with 4 of these drives you can do RAID 5 right??? 😉

[@Bayonet1809]

Hard drive shucking is nothing uncommon, as long as the contents are known.

[@user-nm7rx1wl8k]

Nice /r/datahoarder reference +Bayonet

[@russellbaker4256]

Yeah, the WD Blue benchmarks should have been in RAID0 for an "apples to apples" comparison

[@RetroTinkerer]

Russell Baker testing the WD red inside his system in RAID 0 would be interesting too to see how much performance you loose by using the external box.

[@johnfletcher153]

"Why am I always running out of storage?" I think we can all agree that you've saved up a hefty amount of porn.

[@kitsos9660]

🐰

[@Kainthemain]

part of being a nerd

[@matthewjenkins1161]

Don't know how I ended up here, but the boot speed issue is likely down to the boot order set in bios/uefi. The delay will be while the drives spin up and the PC checks to see if the contain a bootable operating system.

[@lambo-gr1yd]

Go into your bios and make sure that in your boot order make sure that your os is 1st. Make sure its not looking at your storage 1st then your hd with os on it. Hope this helps!

[@lawrencespicher1769]

Your is should be ssd

[@lawrencespicher1769]

And even if the storage is 1st it shouldn’t matter it’s not bootable

[@clarkkegley]

First time watching your channel. Found it via search. By no means a "hardware guy" - I just can't understand anything when it comes to comp numbers, drives, NAS, etc. That said, my entire business runs on youtube and video files! Been looking for a solution to store 20TB+ in one place so these stupid 5TB lacie drives stop going corrupt. Such a pain! Thank you for this review! I think I'll buy this bad boy and hope for the best since you made it so easy to understand.

[@moradtamer]

Eber there is a section in the BIOS that allows you to choose what IO is initialized You can choose from Full initialization which initializes all your connected equipment before the boot Partial Initialization which only initializes the Keyboard and Mouse IO Or No initialization (it is what its name suggests) You most probably have it set to the default which is Full initialization Hope this helps you Everyone please like to help him see this

[@miraojamo]

Although windows will initialize the drive in the boot regardless of this which will take time if the drive isn't initialized already and hand-over properly. Only way to speed things up is power the drive down during the boot.

[@miraojamo]

Or, well, if you know the handover won't be done properly, then you can skip the initialization in post and speed things up that way but that is only one case. And with modern hardware and UEFI boot, that handover usually happens how it should happen.

[@lordstevewilson1331]

Disable all boot options you are not used in most cases it speeds boot time by removing amount of placed your computer is looking for boot able media.

[@trubadyr99]

He just needs to boot with this WD thingy unplugged.

[@leo-ub6nb]

I was going to suggest this as well, change /prioritize bootup of disk drives.

[@cheddar07]

doesn't really matter. only real fix is to boot with the external drive unplugged.

[@edwardcullen3251]

@@cheddar07 or the drive powered off

[@1idd0kun]

Slow boot time could be due to the computer trying to boot from the USB drive. Try changing boot priority in the bios. Put USB device at the very end of the list.

[@MrMega200]

Or just remove it from the boot list.

[@limbus_patrum]

Makes me wonder is it really that. When I put NAS grade hard drive in my PC it slowed down my boot time. That drive is not bootable and other disc drives don't slow down my boot times. I think NAS drives are slower to initialize/spin up.

[@trubadyr99]

Strange. I have a few NAS drives in my main machine and haven't noticed this problem.

[@limbus_patrum]

Yeap, strange. In my case, I have to wait longer for initial POST screen. Everything after that goes with the same speed with or without that Hard Drive.

[@maxmustermann194]

20 TB in RAID0 is the ultimate roulette. Need backing up the whole array.

[@Bayonet1809]

At least it is only two drives, not 20 lots of 1TB drives in RAID0. But yes, he does need a backup.

[@CesareVesdani]

How many more years will it take for a 20TB single hard drive to be released?

[@EthanWord]

Why in the world are you not doing RAID 1 for redundancy? I sure hope you have some kind of backup somewhere else. For video production you're best having copies of everything in 3 or 4 places.

[@Patrickrah]

What happened to your Synology storage??

[@alymuni]

Weren't you using a Synology NAS??

[@turbo5546]

Hanging on boot has been a problem for a long time, I've experienced it for years all the way back to windows 7 when using an external hard drive. That's why I switched to using a NAS solution.

[@viktorwallmark344]

Might be late to the party but have a question I'm curious if you know the answer to. I have the same Duo but with two 8GB drives inside. When I first got it I set it up to RAID 0 so they both function as one drive. Looking back I probably should've done it as two drives as now when they are filled up and I want to add two new ones to the enclosure It makes me wary to remove them since they are connected to each other right? I can no longer access these drives separately correct? If I remove them and add two new ones, then want to access these current ones do I need to put them both in, in the same slots as before for them to recognize as a unified drive again? Curious on any insights you might have about this! Thanks.

[@CaptainCreosoteRN]

Just swap the drives to upgrade,,,mmm, the data on drives is where? not so simple as you say.

[@grandemage]

Yeah I was just thinking that lol. Cloning 20TB's sounds like a long day of "fun" but I would imagine as content creators they would have an equal or greater amount of space in either a desktop or server system them could transfer between.

[@blahorgaslisk7763]

Usually the thinking is that 'once I fill this up I'll be able to back all of it up to a single drive'. Unfortunately that's usually not how it goes. The mere existence of empty storage seems to generate content just to fill it up all by itself, and the dreaded message that storage is running low comes way sooner than you thought it would. As this is Raid 0 we're talking about anything not considered expendable has to be backed up somewhere. So I guess in this case just yanking the old drives and slapping in a couple of new will be fine. I think he wouldn't even bother pulling back all the files, just the ones necessary for the daily production. The others would only be pulled down from the backup server as needed. All of this is of course mostly guessing, all but the need for reliable backup. Disk striping is really dangerous. Before using R0 you have to know what the risks are. Knowing that your data can be gone and really KNOWING that all YOUR DATA CAN BE GONE is two different things. But this is true even with a single disk. It fails, your data is in serious risk of being gone. Sure you may be able to save some of it if the drive isn't totally bricked, but if you have to take it to the experts to recover your precious data it will be very expensive. So back up that drive!

[@AndreyPerepelitsa]

Quick question. Does this enclosure have fans and if yes are what is their noise level?

[@RCcola1987]

@HardwareCanucks NEVER put production data on RAID 0! You WILL LOSE DATA! Switch it to RAID 1! ALso WD's external controllers have a bad reputation for failing and then making it impossible to read the data even if you remove the drives and put them into another system due either to it using encryption or proprietary RAID. Take it from someone that has been in the industry for over 15 years and owns and manages file servers for myself, my company, and for our customers in the Petabytes DON'T USE RAID 0!

[@amshermansen]

10 years of WD and not a single issue here. This is reaching the point of scaremongering - though I will definitely agree that RAID0 is not the way to do longterm backup.

[@RCcola1987]

Well let me put it this way: We have over 5,000 Drives in service at any one time not counting the drives we monitor for our clients which would be aprox. another 10 to 15 K. Also we typically cycle drives out for new ones (either due to needing larger capacities or due to failure) about at 2 to 3 years of drive life. Typically we see more failures in drives that are sold direct to consumers and especially be WD direct to consumer but that is not what i was talking about. What i was specifically speaking to was that the USB/RAID/SATA controller boards that WD uses in there external enclosures are of dubious quality either due to firmware or hardware design. We get about 200 to 300 external drives a month from customers to recover data off of and in most coses if it is a WD enclosure the driver is NOT what failed but the controller did. The issue in regards to HardwareCanucks are as fallows: 1. They are a company and their videos are there product and there differentiator in the market. If that data is lost (Like many other large KZbinrs have had happen in recent years) it could mean the end of their business. 2. As a business they should be using something that is battle tested and proven for the enterprise and not just a personal consumer product built down to a price. **To note these enterprise systems can be acquired for about the same money with much better features and far better reliability and support. (AKA iX Systems FreeNas Mini) As a final note as of this moment we have aprox. 1,300 WD RE4 drives in our main datacenter so don't say we are hating on WD.

[@amshermansen]

Considering you haven't put a single shred of data on other companies hardware... I shall happily continue to say you are "hating" on WD as it were. Also you're not the only one who works in the industry. Ciao!

[@Stefan_Heinrich]

how did you film the shot at 4:08? is that done with a slider?

[@AlexOshurkov]

Personally I don't like the idea to use encryption provided by the enclosure. If internal PCB fails - you're gonna be in trouble. Also, what if I don't need to encrypt entire drive? Usually I use TrueCrypt / BitLocker.

[@carymcc3280]

Can you Daisy Chain this device to a secondary..?

[@engrpiman]

I work in IT for a small college. our editors work off a 45 drives storinator with 80 TB of storage. that config is raid 6 with two vdevs so we loose 50% to redudency. the read / write is around 800 Mbps on a 10Gbit Ethernet connection. backing it up is more of a challenge. I like Synology as they are easy to work with. granted we are in different leagues as the main storage cost $20k and the backups was 8k.

[@NolanHaynes]

I see Eber rocking that KEYone!

[@yw5617]

the consistency in design is pretty nice.

[@animedrawer69]

Doesn't Raid 0 mean that if one of those drives were to die you'd pretty much lose all of your data. I would not rely solely on that

[@amshermansen]

Yes.

[@DmnkRocks]

check your bios settings (boot order/priority) - it is trying to boot from the usb drive

[@obviouslyniceduh5521]

you can get the 8tb WD easystore from bestbuy it has WD reds in them and they are usually $180 in the U.S., you might want to think about picking a few up if your in the us when its "on sale"

[@CantankerousDave]

I bought four a while ago when they were $160.

[@NoOnesBCE]

Did you Check Boot order and options?

[@NemesisDestiny]

I love how it's still called 'footage' even though it's 100% digital and involves zero feet of film.

[@Robstrap]

Ok boomer

[@NemesisDestiny]

@@Robstrap Xennial, actually.

[@hamilpatel4025]

boot order? is your pc looking to boot from the WD drive or internal drive first?

[@jagermeister1888]

dude you can disable the hardware check for this external drive in BIOS so you end up having the same speed on boot. Other than that great content (Y)

[@christopherwarsh]

Great to see that 4 years later, there are much better solutions than the one shown here ;)

[@airman_85uk]

why are you going with raid 0 ? what if one of the drive fails.. It's unlikely but still an issue

[@SirBilliam96]

backup your backups LOL

[@AlvinUT2001]

@Eber... Do these external drives have active (fans) or passive cooling? And do the drives get hot while in use for an extended period of time?

[@MrTom]

Does this work as a memory stick would? Or does it need to have software running?

[@MiekSr]

Nice video! What is that clear box with red buttons on your desk?

[@theplatypus221b]

Do you know how much heat is released from it?

[@scp3178]

Hi. There is some weird thing to keep in mind: Basically you sometimes can’t read your wd NAS harddrive out of the wd NAS box, i.e. plugged into your computer, because there are two types of wd hardrives: the white labeled and the red labeled one: the pin 3 of the datacabel (sata) (3.3V) is to interrupped on the red one, otherwise the harddrive isn’t shown under bios (esi). This is so weird.

[@Ljepotaan]

Did you try in bios to disable the WD check/boot/something before windows?

[@SteveL11]

If access the media files stored on these NAS storage, does it uses up internet data? I'm stuck with Xfinity/Comcast in my area with 1TB Data limits and trying to find a way around it.

[@Genuino99]

if the my book duo stops working, can you still access to the drives data in other unit or a disk dockingstation?

[@alexmeier3538]

Why didnt you just put the drives in your desktop and use them with sata? An external bay makes only sense for me when working with a notebook

[@kateydrummer]

If your PC dies you can straight away connect to any computer and still work?

[@smith401287]

What monitor is that behind you???

[@oscarc332]

imm loking my duo not duo2 only duo over 10tb exists 12 or 6??

[@MelvinDlaCruz]

Speed test was raid1 or raid0? Do you still use this? Thanks

[@leecourington2536]

Thanks for the video. Just wondering how you are getting on now with the duo? I need a budget solution to edit a large 4K BRAW independent film. Would you recommend this for a working drive for 4K? (not as a backup)

[@lyndonalvarez2684]

What would you suggest for redundancy? I was considering this option for RAID 1 / Backup. I created RAID 1 with to external drives however I had one unplugged and opened the files anyways, now I can't seem to link them back together. It's really odd.

[@PaulMichaelPuno]

in bios, select only the boot drive and exclude other drives. happens to me when i connect an external drive or flash drive. raid 0 is very risky unless its ssd.

[@SnoMan1818]

what do you recommend for a backup? I need like 12 tb for music production stuff/old photos

[@ayush8]

Where can I get that wallpaper you are using on your desktop?

[@haseebameeer]

Can you tell me what is maximum size HDD does this device spoorts?? Like i want two 20-20 TB drives to make it toatal 40TB is it possible??

[@Live-Stream-Archives]

how's the noise levels on the Duo?

[@edwardkostreski6733]

Does it have the issue that if the duo fails you lose the data because a new duo cannot decrypt ?

[@thesilverjackal]

Yes. I have the My Book Duo 16tb just like he's showing. The Enclosure died yesterday and and the data is gone. The password he talks about doesn't even do anything. I never even set up the security and the drive still encrypts data. I can't use the drives in another enclosure and even another My Duo enclosure to try and recover. WD's support solution is to just replace under warranty and lose your data or go through a third party data recovery company and pay... Stay away from this unit!

[@SirBilliam96]

Regarding the slow boot time, I had that problem with an external 4TB drive I use to back up my PC. I found 2 ways around it. 1. Plug the drive in after boot (obviously) 2. In the BIOS, change the boot priority so that USB drives are all the way at the bottom (can be changed easily if you need to boot from your recovery drive)

[@tiborklein5349]

Fiddling with BIOS settings? Eh, too much work. :D

[@anastav6915]

Hello, im interest in this drive! Anybody knows if this is silent? Im talking about 20-35db max noise.

[@bacazterchovej2235]

which one is the best for storage ? black , gold or red ones ?

[@Bayonet1809]

Black is for PCs, Red is for consumer external storage, Red Pro is near-line enterprise storage, Gold is enterprise storage. Most people just need Blacks and Reds.

[@Cooper3312000]

Picked up a re-certified 20tb model off eBay directly from WD for 475$ works great love it. Has 2 10tb Red 256mb cache new drives.

[@pajorama11]

Great review. Does a box have a simple on/off switch?

[@seanmcgrath3558]

can this be connected to a thunderbolt 3 port and give you thunderbolt 3 speeds on a HP zbook G5 PC

[@findyourzero]

Can the My Book Duo be simultaneously hooked up to a PC & MAC for storage and TimeMachine?

[@TheNiteNinja19]

I think your slow booting issue, is the BIOS is seeking the drives for an operating system. Try lowering it's drive priority or removing it as a bootable drive altogether and see if that resolves it.

[@JimmysAfterHoursAdventures]

Hi a got a WD My Book Duo 20tb Desktop RAID USB 3.1 External Hard Drive diskless and wondering what hard drives it requires will it run with eg one 6tb drive in it or does it always require two drives inserted to work or does it need to 10tb drives to work?

[@michaellevin6220]

Do anyone know if it's possible to edit video directly from it?

[@wattsda1]

I use a synology Nas. 4 bays with 4 8tb drives. Love the there software that comes with it.

[@brianhoward9217]

I was waiting and waiting and WAITING for him to mention if the drives were replaceable with anything BIGGER than 20TB. It is now 2019 and there are 14TB drives available but I've no idea if I can use them in this enclosure. Can't believe he didn't mention it - seems part of the reason for buying such a thing - to put bigger in as it becomes available. Is there a software or firmware limitation on the size of drives it will accept? Really love to know this . . . Anyone know please?

[@rajatmaheshwari3746]

what is the name ,model of that cabinet ?

[@TheAngelOfDeath01]

Absolutely one of my favourite Content Creators. Nice review Eber. Thanks for your views on this storage solution.

[@qabio]

if you were to buy 4 2tb WD external hard drives for 65 each, plugged them either directly into the pc or using a 3.0 dock, would it save you money?

[@TheOrtaDirek]

Can samsung tvs recognise this drive and play movies from if i set it as JBOD and configure it ExFAT (while connecting it with 2 seperate usbs to tv) ?

[@DuncDog]

Ummm... I would avoid 0 if you are looking at a legitimate backup or archive terminal. The storage and speed numbers are nice, but if 1 drive dies sporadically, you lose **everything on both drives** .

[@Narwaro]

It is crazy how much the prices went down on those cheap SATA drives. My oldest array still in service (with 32 1TB seagate drives with over 70.000 hours) was 300$ for each SAS drive.

[@rossharper1983]

Just filled my last drive, 26TB's now. This thing is perfect for me.

[@WarriorsPhoto]

Good review. I have noticed slow boot and shut down times with USB3 drives attached as well. I think your experience is normal.

[@u4n273]

The long POST: I would check the boot order. It looks like the BIOS is checking for a USB HDD to boot from (ergo checking the boot order). Maybe this helps? Great content as usual.

[@leandersiegle9532]

Can I use that thing as a NAS?

[@Corei14]

Leander Siegle nope

[@James-kw4vp]

Check fast Boot - after the last win 10 update it reverted my system to this unstable setting. Weird unstable reboots with some hardware or simply does not restart.

[@MochiSuu]

well, the little quirk you were running against, is a typical thing you will see when having external storage connected when booting up. your system will try to go through all I/O and check all external drives before booting into windows, this causes extensive boot-up time. I have experienced this since with my C2Q setup. Other than that, I think it's just a 1st world problem. Ever experienced a 15 minute wait for your system to boot up? Besides the point, after your systems has booted, it seems it is running smooth and stable, so all the more reason to neglect the extra boot time. Other than that, loved your review, thanks! Looking forward seeing you guys other reviews soon! :D

[@velitation1800]

I think you can avoid the slow startup time by changing boot order in the BIOS. Also, unless you are only using it as a scratch drive, RAID 0 is a bad idea.

[@troy79]

Random Q - whats the soundbar under the monitor in your setup?!?

[@zeighy]

The boot time actually increased more because of whatever motherboard you have, less about the device itself. I experience this problem with my Asus motherboard, so I am generally forced to unplug any USB3 storage plugged in to boot faster, or sometime even at all. My motherboard is even on the latest BIOS, so I it must be some setting on the motherboard itself.

[@neop9015]

The use case for this is pretty limited. Raid 0 isn't for backups, and with only 2 drive bays the only other option is raid 1, cutting your storage in half. Your also relying on the hardware raid controller in the device, if that fails you need to buy another one to "maybe" recover your data.

[@seanpalmer8472]

I would do 2 drives in a NAS before than both of those options. It's especially more useful if you travel or change/upgrade your PC frequently or even if you want access from multiple devices. In order of preference (for mass storage at least): NAS Internal storage External storage

[@c0pyimitati0n]

I literally just got a 4tb My Passport drive in the mail today. I wasn't paying attention though and I already need to backup 4tb of footage! 🤣

[@BennyWoWGaming]

Please tell me you have a proper backup solution for that raid 0 config lol

[@olliphoto]

Raid 1 is the best thing to use? Mirror the HD. If 1 HD fails, then the other HD is fine ?

[@Jojo4life639]

The problem that you have with the prolonged boot has to do with a USB protocol. My Ryzen setup does that same thing. It happens with a few USB devices that I have especially USB 3.0 hubs.

[@joerodriguez7334]

Can i use this with the Xbox one x to add some storage ?

[@mcunner]

My 4th gen intel system has a similar slowdown if I have an external drive attached but not as bad as yours

[@vskye1]

As others have said, RAID 0 is prone to data loss. I see this solution as just a "quick fix". You really should consider a proper NAS with ZFS for the file system. FreeNAS comes to mind here, and building your own is fairly straight forward if you do the research. Or, you can just purchase a pre-built system from iXsystems.

[@Lolimaster]

A proper backup will not use any raid option (which depends on either pc hardware or enclosure hardware to function and can fail horribly), either use software mirroring or manually copy final storage files to 3 different drives. Create an SFV to check integrity on each drive every 15days/month and if budget allows a one drive/mega/megabackup for your work files like the after effect logs, templates, advertising clips that will be inserted to new videos, etc. If i want an external enclosure, it needs to be a dummy one, power, usb3.0-3.1 + some aluminum for passive dissipation and directly connect to the PC, no software involved.

[@Bayonet1809]

Nothing wrong with RAID6 for mass storage backup, as long as there are separate copies of the same data in two different locations. Basically; have a working array/drive, then a high availability storage array in RAID10, which is mirrored periodically to a RAID6 array. Not everyone can fit all their storage on a single drive, and separating data into a JBOD would be cumbersome to maintain.

[@miraojamo]

TL;DR: yes, slow boot is caused by the disk being external. I have a friend with relatively fast PC, with ssd boot, and with several external disk boxes as he likes to keep his storage mobile. His machine boots with disks disconnected in less than 30 seconds. With all the disks, several minutes. System first initializes the USB, then checks the box itself, then spins up the disk in the box if box didn't already (some don't), then checks the disk itself and after that continues to the next disk, if there is one. It takes a long time. It might even spin-down disk after post before windows starts to boot if there isn't proper handover, which will delay the boot even further as windows will do another hardware init. External drives aren't exactly nice option because of that in a permanent use. I'd rather put disks inside my case and connect them straight to the motherboard or use some NAS option. In the other hand, if you need the storage on the go or with multiple computers in different networks, then it is very viable option, and with current USB standards, also fast.

[@miraojamo]

And with many boxes, which doesn't do automatic spin-up, you can actually hear system going through them one-by-one

[@Bigdog302V8]

I think it is a pretty cool setup but raid 0 alone is pretty risky. you could set up a raid 10 inside a computer or if they come out with a portable raid 10 4 drive model and would be much safer with your data. if they did a portable 4 10 terabyte raid 10 you would only get a 20 terabyte setup that would be pretty costly.