I put a PC inside a PC (It’s actually GOOD!)

[@HardwareHaven]

Play War Thunder now with my link, and get a massive, free bonus pack including vehicles, boosters, and more: playwt.link/hardwarehaven

[@Sir_pancakes_]

you should use prism launcher for minecraft

[@pcislocked]

wt is p2w btw

[@the_block-99]

could i use a video capture card to see the interface for this on my main pc?

[@purplemaddx]

Don't take my life plz

[@wvh-pups]

@@Sir_pancakes_modrinth better

[@JeffGeerling]

Ahh, serverception. I love it! Now we need a PCIe card that has four slots for SoMs, so you can put four home servers in your home server!

[@BrunodeSouzaLino]

Well, you could use some sort of PCIe x16 female/female adapter and connect another NUC to that and repeat for the amount of NUCs you want? But then...wouldn't you technically be having a bunch of blade servers in a different format?

[@afaulconbridge]

NUC on a Pi?

[@HerrFreese]

Also create a hypervisor on that virtualizing some home servers, virtualizing some home servers hosting containers... 😂

[@pkt1213]

I wish this card had a pcie expansion slot.

[@triadwarfare]

Looks like this is the same Jeff that left a glowing review on a connector on Amazon

[@alexander0the0gray]

“Yo Dawg, I heard you like computers - so I put a computer in yo computer!”

[@MrJhwan]

Beat me to the joke

[@fionasherleen]

So you can computer while you computer 😎

[@ewenchan1239]

Sun Microsystems has been doing this since they released the Penguin.

[@cooperised]

Jeff Geerling beat him to it with a thumbnail featuring this meme

[@Paranoia8972]

PCIe you say? Sounds like I can plug it into my ZimaBlade 😂

[@HardwareHaven]

Oh jeez that would be hilarious

[@mickgrimes9078]

i was thinking the same thing! lol

[@GsrItalia]

@@HardwareHaven a tinkerer guy says to Inception "hold my fan"...

[@YerBrwnDogAteMyRabit]

My first thought...

[@Nick-rs5if]

Oh God that would be sooo funny if it works! 😂

[@arubberroomwithrats]

kinda wish the pcie slot could be used for direct communication between both computers, almost like an accelerator card

[@HardwareHaven]

True...

[@Sunset-Wave]

I was thinking the same thing

[@arubberroomwithrats]

@@HardwareHaven it would be similar to the scrapped Project Larabee in a way, where the card could also execute x86 instructions in a graphics card-like form factor

[@Phil-D83]

Intel and amd would have a heart attack. They want to overcharge business and not give them any outs. The arm chip makers might allow for that.

[@kienanvella]

You could do it, with a pcie switch set up as a non-transparent bridge. The Linux kernel makes use of this natively for some kinds of NTB, forming virtual network and serial links between machines. The cost of that NTB chip however is quite significant.

[@Leg0z]

While this might seem odd, it's actually a very old concept. Orange Micro, a now defunct hardware company, used to make similar cards in the early 90's for Macs as a way for them to run Windows. It was before Hypervisors were a thing.

[@oldschooldude8370]

Sun micro also did the same with Solaris.

[@noth606]

Several companies did this sorta thing for various platforms, I had a Mac Quadra something with a 486dx2-50 on a card in it back in the day, quite useful actually since I had limited space living in a small 1 room appartment of sorts, so I just had one monitor, mouse and keyboard, but separate PC and Mac computers combined into one thing. Hypervisors have absolutely nothing to do with it, LPAR was very much a thing. However, what it did was allow two completely different hardware architectures to coexist inside one physical computer and also exchange files to a degree, I no longer remember exactly how it worked but it was a thing. LPAR is splitting a computer system into more separate "slices" that can run separate instances of the OS to a configurable degree, without needing actually separate hardware to run the "slice" on, pretty much exactly what a bunch of people are very exited about these days as if it is a new thing, lol. The difference now is that you can do it on consumer level hardware, that's it - and that is due to address translation being supported in newer CPU's, which is a _must_ to run so called VM's which are simply a softer form of an LPAR in most ways. Edit: Realized this may not ring bells to people younger than me, LPAR is a logical partition, this has been a thing with larger computer systems for quite some time, I don't recall off the top of my head who did it first but I'm talking about stuff that was done on "professional server/large systems", so not x86, 68k, Amiga etc pedestrian overgrown pocket calculators, which in many ways is what they were back in the 80's and before, and to a degree still most of the 90's. I mean "big iron" computers, 32 and 64bit systems when most people at home had things like C64, Atari or if they were a bit more die-hard they had some Mac, PC or if they were cool an Amiga 😁

[@oldschooldude8370]

@noth606 Youre a bit long in the tooth. I don't think 95% of the viewers are older than 30. Thanks for the read. I'm guessing you're well into your 50s.

[@Leg0z]

@@oldschooldude8370 nope. 44. My friend had one of these cards when we were 12.

[@noth606]

@@oldschooldude8370 I'm 48 but I had my first computer when I was 7, a VIC-20. I was playing with "big iron" from when I was 15-16 helping at a uni computer club and got a PDP-11/23 and a VAX, SUN machines etc around then, progressed to SGI ONYX RE2 then various Octanes, IBM RS/6000 various including SAN setups, on to LPAR then VMWare when they first came. But the writing was on the proverbial wall, so I changed to software development full time targeting ASP then .NET but am retired now. Still futz around though, on my own stuff. But it's fun to see the stuff from the big iron stuff in the 80s and 90s come back as 'new' on PC servers, mostly because it is old ideas but perfected, given a new name and new clothes and then sold as brand new innovation lol. It IS better, but the improvements are on the usability and "packaging" side of things more than the core fundamentals. And that you can run the stuff on a modern laptop if you like, you no longer need cubic meters of computer in a temp controlled room.

[@Saphykitten]

Immediately checks amazon/ebay/etc and sees $250+

[@BReal-10EC]

Yeah, you can get a Minisforum MC560 with a Ryzen 5 5625U on Newegg right now for 255. Not a perfect mini PC.. but still makes more sense than spending $250 on a PCI card Computer that still needs power from another source that can't sleep.

[@andrewstewrt2141]

@@BReal-10EC i think it fits more as a thing to mine monero on or for recording/streaming

[@pcislocked]

7:11 that completely breaks the use case I imagined - a low-power system living inside a higher power server, acting as some sort of proxy with access to some storage, running some applications and only waking up the higher-power system if needed. for example it would serve the plex just fine but would call for the main system if higher transcode capacity is needed etc.

[@benjiro8793]

Install it in a DAS, that hosts a empty MB for PCIe power?

[@pcislocked]

@@benjiro8793 that might do it yeah

[@kbhasi]

It could probably be sidestepped by using a separate power supply, but then that defeats certain use cases because there'd be an obvious PSU sticking outside of the case with cables running inside and/or the side door would be removed, sort of like what I had to do with my NAS where I have a separate PSU powering the storage devices because the 1U PSU in the case couldn't provide enough power without drives randomly disconnecting and reconnecting in Linux.

[@corombb]

Phanteks makes some dual system power supplies that let each system sleep independently. You might have to tinker to get it working 100% properly with a "system" that lacks a 24-pin connector, but I can't imagine it's impossible.

[@christophernugent8492]

@@kbhasithere exist cases that have 2 power supply slots.

[@Chris-rm1pn]

It would be nice if you could somehow get the PCs talking through PCIe

[@XeonProductions]

I guess you could say that PC is physically containerized. Yo dawg, I heard you like servers, so we put a server in your server so you can host while you host. When I first saw the thumbnail I thought maybe this would be over one of those Xeon Phi coprocessors that got discontinued.

[@heybravo23]

X TO THE Z!

[@dravokivich]

Who needs hypervisors when you can spin up a local device....

[@HardwareHaven]

Haha i felt weird saying "host machine" in a physical sense

[@jumpmaster5279]

can't complain much but, seems like a great idea. this is like inception a dream within a dream

[@HardwareHaven]

lol I should've found a way to make an inception reference. Wasted opportunity...

[@electrothecat]

This extra computer concept is exactly how your GPU actually works, it's essentially another computer built for a specific purpose, that interfaces through a high-speed low-latency pc bus. The only reason it doesn't have on-board storage atm, is bc the architecture is not designed to compress/decompress files or do other general tasks like the CPU can, therefore limiting what it can accomplish in the pc realm. The card shown in the video can be used to interface with your main for two reasons: 1: If the card's firmware is updated/jailbroken to act as a slave device, rather than a master device when it came out of the factory floor. 2: Intel provides drivers for the use of the card on a main machine so that it can interface and provide the main with certain functions/the ability to perform tasks on the card without incompatibilities/technical issues. Or a github repo is provided to provide drivers to use this card as a slave device to the main machine. It's interesting the level of detail provided in the video on the usefulness of this card in a main rig, and the stuff u could do with it in this use case. But i just wanted to post my take on this and what i can think of what could help expand the usefulness of this outdated tech.

[@granttaylor8179]

The NUC 9 Extreme I have uses the i7-9750H. It is a 6 core 12 thread running at 2.6Ghz with a Turbo of 4.5Ghz. It is a great little home server with support for 3 M. 2 NVMe drives. The daughter board can support 128GB of RAM and has 2 M.2 slots. The Pro daughter board version comes with Xeon processors while the Exteme version comes with i5, i7 or i9 core processor. The i7 is the 9750H.

[@itsnotyourfaultboy]

The trying to detect country thing is a bug that happened on different installs on different hardware. So it's not a problem of the PCIE Nuc :) The fix is always just unplugging the network cable

[@rahulchandra152]

Hey great to see that you did a video on it! I've been using it for a couple months now and it's amazing!

[@coolraul07]

Cue all the "yo dawg i hear you like to..." memes from "Pimp My Ride". Maybe you can get Xzibit to cameo in your next video.

[@lzcpg]

You should take a look at DPUs too for similar usecases, though they tend to be very much data center oriented.

[@fierce134]

The Amazon review wasn't from Jeff, it was from "other" Jeff, per Craft Computing 😂

[@HardwareHaven]

Hahahaha

[@JeffGeerling]

🤔

[@Grandwigg]

Does that mean Red Shirt Jeff is other other Jeff?

[@CraftComputing]

@@JeffGeerling The people have spoken.

[@zanderfaehrteisenbah]

😂😂 Jeffception happening here

[@charlesdoesmore5488]

A pc within a pc within a pc within a pc within a pc within a pc within a pc within a pc within a pc within a pc within a pc within a pc within a pc within a pc within a pc within a pc within a pc within a pc within a pc within a pc within a pc within a pc within a pc within a pc within a pc within a p- Wait, why is there an AMD PC in here!? 11:03 - This is your sign to use another Minecraft launcher. I personally use Prism Launcher.

[@PyroBlank]

I guess I prefer MultiMC due to customisation.

[@skatcat743]

@@PyroBlank they are literally the same, but I prefer prism as you can get it as flatpak.

[@charlesdoesmore5488]

​@@PyroBlankI originally use MultiMC as well!

[@timothyt.82]

The concept of having an auxiliary/secondary processing unit is something I have been contemplating. If we could set the device to act as a slave processor instead of an individual computer, then you might be able to increase your computational workload. A GPU is basically a specialized computer designed to process objects on your screen. The key difference here, though, is that now you have a general purpose processor that can be assigned tasks while your primary CPU is occupied. Say you have a game running. Both the CPUs can share the workload of computing what's happening, relieving stress from your main chip. But then, you suddenly remember that you also need to render your video, or compile that code you have to push out. Not to worry, the main CPU can take over processing the game while the auxiliary CPU starts computing the other job. You experience no throttling, and you can effectively multitask. And if you have a system like the NUC, you also have additional RAM to pull from instead of having to share from a pool. It isolates the data and keeps the jobs separate to ensure they don't bog each other down. Throw in storage, and now your auxiliary system can operate as a completely isolated system if need be, while also under the direct control of the main board. Its like having a botnet, but without the networking (technically). Imagine the two systems doing cloud computing internally within the same system, accelerating your overall performance, having redundant systems that you can rely on (monitors tend to have two or more ports, so why not use them?), and even opening a way to have two users safely access the same drive, at the same time? Why wouldn't you want this upgrade?

[@pkt1213]

I have a couple of Seasonic PSUs and they have the same PSU side plug for EPS and PCIE so adding more EPS is a snap. This would be real interesting to put several in mining rig.

[@danielfernandezaguirre]

man i almost wanna buy this just to have people come and ask i have double gpus and tell them no, i have double PCs

[@Mrhorribubble]

cool use case would be putting it inside your main pc and then connecting all your drives to that instead of the main pc and making that the nas. that way you have no issues when changing os's or when windows updates decide to brick your pc.

[@n.stephan9848]

I've had this exact same idea as well. Originally I was searching for a hardware RAID card capable of doing raid 5 or 6, since that would be the only solution that would work on a multi os system. I something like this pc card just appeared as a network card to the host pc, communication would also be taken care of.

[@Francois_L_7933]

You really need to get a Dremel with a cutoff wheel for modifying those cases. They don't make sharp edges like tin snips do.

[@CorwinPatrick]

But the do spit metal shavings all over the place...

[@Ali-Bee]

Snips create a LOT less metal dust though. I suspect he didn't feel like totally dismantling the PC to protect components from metal dust when 10 seconds of snipping would be just as effective (just less pretty...)

[@HardwareHaven]

There's a big difference between a project that I plan to keep and a project that I teardown the week after I publish the video, lol

[@variable_0]

That proxmox installation issue "trying to detect country..." is a proxmox thing I think. Had that

[@isturma]

When I first heard about these systems, the NUC as a PCI-E form factor, THIS is exactly the use case I had envisioned for it. Thank you for bringing it to life!

[@TheQuickSilver101]

This looks like a great option for conserving space. Thank you for reminding me that this exists and for showing us how versatile it can be!

[@antnate578]

no, that isn’t a GPU, it’s a PCU

[@C0LPAN1C]

Hey. PCU is my Alma mater. 🤣

[@sivadfa]

What I'd like to see is some sort of firmware where you could enable it to act as a PCI-e device instead of host. That would be useful to use to talk back to the host for various things directly.

[@corombb]

Especially given the lack of 2.5/10Gbe. There are some M.2 2.5Gbe Ethernet adapters so creating a higher speed link to the system isn't impossible, but at a certain point I feel like you'd be better off running a Phanteks P600s or other dual system case and running two full PCs, each with full PCIe x16 expansion

[@daspec]

Its an Alien parasite! Once it hatches little PC eggs, it burst through your host server's case and start running inside the room! 😱😂

[@presidentcherry6193]

Hey, extra PCs the better!

[@shephusted2714]

the dark rock case looks like a real winner - so much hdd space

[@HardwareHaven]

She's a beauty! I'm excited to make a video on it.

[@RetroBerner]

Looks like the NUC has a USB-C header you could route to your front panel too, not a bad idea

[@mortengreenhermansen4489]

And most important- ECC support! 😊

[@JMark4]

Looking forward to the next video regarding this case. Looks pretty solid. I’m just curious if those fans are good enough to move air through the drive bays.

[@DrDipsh1t]

Since you're covering most of the pins, think this could work with one of the mining risers and stick it in a x1 slot? That way can use the other x16 slots for "real" cards and have the nuc in a box card too!

[@5467nick]

You wouldn't need to plug it into any of the motherboard's PCIe slots if you're using a mining adapter. This device is only using the PCIe slot to supply power in this use case. That's why he taped over the data pins in the video.

[@CaptCoutu]

Why all these pins if you need to tape them?

[@EldritchInc]

This plugged into a Zimaboard based NAS would be a hell of a portable lab 🤔

[@shruggiexo]

your videos always help with this late pc lab session, never change ur schedule!!... or at least for 1 final week lol

[@patrickprucha5522]

Very nice idea. I wished i knew this when i had my desktop. I had always been thinking that the box could use another computer to manage other things. I liked the idea. Now i have a solution if i go down that path again.

[@nickwort123]

Yo dawg, I heard you like home servers so we put a home server in your home server so you can home server while you home server

[@brandonlight621]

beat me to it

[@TVRRS-z6y]

since you're not using the host pcie lanes why not use the other pcie slot which has less lanes or slower. you will end up cutting both bars on the long run... think twice cut once. personally I would have used a 1x slot or a pcie extender and mounted it to the vertical slot pcie slot in your particular case.

[@eric4903]

Probably defaults to x8 for both PCIe slots when 2 cards inserted anyway.

[@TVRRS-z6y]

@@eric4903 it doesn't work like that for the 1st slot. on atx boards with 3 slots the last 16x will auto switch from 4x or whatever to 2x2x or 1x1x1x1x when other 1x slots are used.

[@TVRRS-z6y]

@@eric4903 that's bifurcation and you either need a pcie bifurcation board and set it in bios - if you plan on using multiple pcie cards on the same slot OR use a pcie device that suports bifurcation natively asus hyperx comes to mind from 16x slot to 4x nvme

[@TheTolsonator]

Yoooooo I haven't seen a cryorig cooler in YEARS

[@LeonisYT]

10:40 you can pass through an extra nvme as well since there are 2.

[@HardwareHaven]

true!

[@greenprotag]

Fun video and definitely worth a look. If these were "purpose built" to do this (which they ALMOST are) I feel like it would be more viable. If there was more "interface" between the main system and the "Daughter" system such as KVM passthrough or at least some monitoring and controls I feel like it would be excellent. However with the lack of interface and the cost OFTEN not being cheap, a smaller nuc PC, and old optiplex with a cheap quadro or ARC card, OR a custom ITX build would all make more sense as a dedicated streaming PC or Low power home server.

[@grislyboar3396]

One thing I didn't see mentioned in this video (I could have missed it so if I did, ignore this) is that single board PCs that you put in expansion slots is not by any means a new concept. It was more common for business / server network use in the 80s and 90s, but there were specific cards that were essentially single-board PCs with older for the sake of basically having support for older DOS applications that required a slower processor like an 8088 or a 486 depending on the use case and the hardware the card was made to work with. Since backwards compatibility is the name of the game in large-scale business computing, I imagine it was super useful having the actual hardware necessary to run some old but specifically necessary programs for certain tasks. DOS emulation and VMs weren't exactly as much of a thing during that period, so it made sense to basically slap a whole other PC into an ISA/PCI slot and use that instead. I could be misremembering, but I recall seeing a showcase of a card for the Apple II that was basically made for running programs for different 8-bit computers on it.

[@cheeseisgreat24]

“What is this, a server for ants?”

[@acenio654]

Hey, you forgot to link the install scripts in the description

[@HardwareHaven]

AH THANKS! I knew I was missing somethinf

[@HardwareHaven]

Fixed!

[@kozekistudio]

ah yes a computer inside my computer that controls all my computers

[@SgtStarSlayer]

imagine it can be hooked up with a 2 way sli bridge to a second one and alongside with a dedicated gpu to the motherboard pcie slot.

[@GrizzLeeAdams]

I'm glad you actually taped off the PCIe bus. I've seen people do this with the skulltrail nuc board and almost none of them taped off the PCIe bus.

[@articdev]

Brownies Recipe Ingredients:  140 grams of chocolade  4 eggs  300 grams of sugar  120 grams of flour  250 grams of butter Preparation: 1) Preheat the oven to 160 °C. 2) Beat the eggs with the sugar. Do this using a mixer. 3) Melt the chocolate with the butter. 4) Mix the egg mixture with the melted chocolate butter. 5) Mix in the flour. 6) Bake for 35 minutes in small in a large low mould.

[@Houl777]

Same module but with i7 has been in use for 2 years. Works well. The main thing is that the "mother" system always supplies power to it 3.3. Fast reboots or other things that can interrupt power should be banned. Additionaly all NUC9 modules support SATA drives. You just need to buy simple connector. And because I have only one pci-e there is no need to use capton tape.

[@Gausutu]

you have an amazing knack for explaining things clearly and effectively! ️

[@zechsoner]

I've literally been studying this for a decade .........they can make mobos like this

[@yensteel]

If you got 2 Nr200p cases like Linus did, you can complete a 1 case, 4 pcs build!

[@HardwareHaven]

I considered getting one of those little HDMI plug PCs or something just to go 3 deep haha

[@johnchilds6471]

Amiga 2000 with a 286 bridgeboard did this many years ago

[@jono_church]

That’s pretty cool! I coumd picture it as a built in router/firewall so you could have everything in one machine?

[@HardwareHaven]

Ooh that seems scary... - says the guy running a router in a VM

[@granttaylor8179]

I picked up the i7 BC are bones version of NUC 9 Extreme a few years ago for £480. I installed 64GB of RAM and a 1TB Samsung 970 EVO and I run it as a Home Server with Windows Server 2022 Data center. After I got it the price went back up to £950.

[@phizaal]

Just a heads up, the link for 'T Tech' is missing from the desc. Loving the vid so far :)

[@HardwareHaven]

Fixed!

[@ricksarvas6563]

This reminds me of the old Radius Rockets cards that you could add to NuBUS Macs. They were essentially 68040 cards that would boot into a Mac OS in a window on the host system and be accessible to it. In the case of the two that I had in a Mac II, they were faster than the system they were plugged into.

[@KiraSlith]

This is actually a really smart, you can use this as a gateway and external services host for your main rig. A kind of integrated "networking condom" as a turn of phrase, and still have it supply other things like as mentioned, game servers. In my case I'd probably use it to host my usual private servers, because I'm the kind of pseudo-antisocial weirdo that enjoys playing MMOs solo, but MMO private server software tends to dislike running on the same OS as the client connecting to it (something latency compensation related? Iunno.)

[@404edding]

This reminds me of the Intel Xeon Phi: An accelator card with its own operating system. You plugged it into another PC and then you could SSH into it from the host system. No PCIe pin hacks required :)

[@Agnemons]

So it could be setup as a very basic DIY blade system if you could find a host mobo with the necessary slots you could add multiple ones.

[@craigcritchfield8096]

Your channel and a few others helped me make the jump to mini pc's, and I gotta stop watching your channel before I spend even more money on this new fascination with mini pc's!

[@LynKazoyuu]

11:04 and that's why I still use the legacy launcher since the new one is always broken

[@longbottle]

Reminds me of the "X86 system on a PCI card" that used to be somewhat popular in the PPC Mac days.

[@Raunhofer]

Combining this with a x86 pfSense/OPNsense router would really make sense. Router is never shut down and the PCIe PC could run other network services.

[@samuelsaady9909]

Haha, this reminds me of the nubus accelerator boards used on the old Macs where they were literally another Mac on a nubus card, they were mainly for running multiple processors back when cpus only had one core.

[@sonny8085]

Surely you absolutely have to include the power draw of the host system in your test, if it is a necessary requirement for the NUC to be on?

[@init_yeah]

You can change in device manager and force devices not to cut power when sleeping, I imagine that would fix it.

[@chadmasta5]

I never knew about these things a few years ago. It's like a modern evolution of those 486 or pentium sbc's that slotted into a pci or Isa backplane.

[@fanshaw]

I'd like to see something like this which presents to the host system as an ethernet card. Then just run a very fast "network" between your host (storage) server and application servers and workstations running inside it.

[@IvanOoze1990]

Would be wise to make a shutdown batch file and make a icon for it on the desktop So when clicked both machines can shut down at the same time safely.

[@lechkenassh9008]

so added ram work's with the igpu. but you have to set this to work fine through all the on board ram !!! A.K.A. ram timing's !!!

[@christophernugent8492]

I wonder if you could get networking working over PCIe. That would enable you to use these to build compute clusters. It would be nice to get more cores for a VM server by just throwing in a couple of these.

[@amagiccarpetgaming5352]

love the concept, one like this with a dummy bracket to plug in the pcie slot but run off of the an 8 pin pcie directly would be awesome!

[@cameramaker]

It is a so missed opportunity to allow the NUC to operate in a PCIe-NT bridge mode, or in a device-mode. This way, one could make a pcie-pcie connection with the host.

[@thezfunk]

You should do a video on mapping a network drive so that Jellyfin can pull files from it. You have to mount the drives in the host OS and that isn't explained anywhere very well.

[@justinpatterson5291]

Add this board to the back of a BD790i. It's a 16C/32T 7795HX with 64MB L3 Cache, up to 96GB DDR5 5200 SODIMMS. 2x PCIE 5 NVME & a PCIE 5 x16 slot.

[@oddball119]

7:04 I know I am not the only one who mistook the white fan in the background for smoke coming out from behind the power connector.

[@noel-thatguykf5slk166]

SO, theoretically you could use a mining motherboard and frame with PCIE extension cables and create a mini server farm with these?

[@5467nick]

The mining motherboard is unnecessary. The PCIe slot isn't being used for data in that setup, so you might as well just use the risers without plugging them in to anything other than the power supply. Just using mining adapters, sure, you could make a server farm with these (using Ethernet for data), but buying actual server parts would probably end up much cheaper. Used server parts drop in price rapidly, especially high-end server parts. Used 64-core AMD CPUs, even with X3D cache, are absurdly cheap for the amount of processing power they have.

[@SmaugMedia]

i wish intel was still making NUC extremes those were so under rated such a cool PC

[@michaelmcpeters8098]

This supposed to connect to a backplane board to allow power and other PCIe/PCI connections the the board.

[@DIYDaveOK]

Are we actually realizing *hardware* recursion?? 😂. "I have a computer. It it built off of...a computer..." Thanks Colten!

[@Cinarbayramic]

i "screamed" server the moment i saw the xeon text on it

[@user-zj2ib9tx5z]

Friendly reminder you can get a 13900K in one of these cards , however from what I understand the raptor lake cards we're mostly sold to OEMs and aren't as easy to get

[@oscarcharliezulu]

It seems like a really cool system. Max homelab kudos pts this one .

[@IngwiePhoenix]

Ayo configure your Windows host to run a fake service that checks the livelyhood of the "guest" and properly terminate the service - which sends a shutdown command through ADT - when powering off and you can possibly "dual boot" xD This is super neat! Wish there was an ARM variant simply for the power draw, but this is super awesome!

[@jaylord55]

better yet if this only draws power from pcie slot you could always throw it in to pc with a mining card riser witch has its own power input and take advantage of the lower slots on most full atx cases that will never have a card installed into them

[@5467nick]

There would be no reason to plug it into any of the motherboard's PCIe slots if using a mining adapter. This device is not using the PCIe slot for anything other than power in this use case. That's why he taped over the data pins in the video.

[@ChannelSho]

I think this thing's only advantage is you can mount it in a computer via the expansion card slots. Everything else just seems like it'd bother me too much to make that advantage worthwhile.

[@Kalphalus]

My Minecraft Launchers (Both the MS Store one and the older Installer one) broke a while ago, so I started using 3rd party launchers, and now use Prisim Launcher

[@eyesonlywrx1080]

I would like to see an army of these installed on a mining rig case since you can just not plug the riser into a host system but still supply power.

[@joshhardin666]

you could use that hardware passthrough to pass through the igpu (or more preferably the virtual feature (vf) of the igpu) in order to do stuff like plex transcoding or run hardware acclerated remote desktop in a vm.

[@phucnguyen0110]

Cool idea and video, Colten! This is actually a very interesting use case.

[@StarFox1988]

now that I see this.. this sparks some ideas for density. fractal design case, mini IT board for TrueNAS, and populate the rest of the slots with these. services for daaaaaayyys

[@Arek_R.]

This particular card is unobtanium in the UK

[@amigochan]

I used to have a Apple DOS Compatible Card in my Quadra 700. It contains a 486 CPU and related components. :)

[@WilReid]

You should have used a NGFF to PCI-e extender cable to run a GPU off one of the m.2 slots.

[@SianaGearz]

Hold on a sec you're putting it into an ATX chassis into a uATX mainboard, when you have an oodle of space under the mainboard that can't be used for much good. You might not need the PCIe connector at all. Or if you do, you can just hotwire it, since you don't get any actual PCIe connectivity, not in this direction, just some voltages and whatnot. So you can use the chassis space under the mainboard for it. You can even make a backplane that allows you to plug another PCIe card into the NUC card! I know that you have a PCB company sponsorship waiting in your e-mail inbox.