Best GPUs of 2024, Mid-Year Update - The Best of a Bad Situation

[@Dhruv-qw7jf]

"If you care about Ray Tracing, the GeForce card is better value. If you don't care about Ray Tracing, the Radeon card offers better rasterization performance for the price" - this video, basically. Edit: oh yeah, and just forget about the Non-Super refresh counterparts.

[@Hybris51129]

Basically what they said during their last GPU video and the one before that as well.

[@anitaremenarova6662]

Not really, the refresh caused many to sell their 4070 cards. You can easily nab one cheap with basically full warranty.

[@Ferdinand208]

I think you can make that even easier: If you want a $50 discount for lower raytracing performance you can get AMD Me, I gladly pay extra for the assurance that I can use every feature including DLSS.

[@m_sedziwoj]

and naming DLSS superior to FSR is big stretch. Is better, in some cases, but FST become better over time, and stop frame comparison... is not as you play games.

[@Ferdinand208]

@@m_sedziwoj Great advice for AMD gpu owners. They can't see DLSS in action. Nvidia gpu owners can switch between FSR, XeSS, DLSS. And they choose DLSS 100% of the time.

[@ElladanKenet]

Meanwhile, the Mid-Year CPU Update: AMD: Great and Zen 5 comes out soon! Intel: EVERYTHING IS ON FIRE Further update: It's revealed the entire 13th and 14th gen stack is compromised, everything 65w and up. RIP

[@tonymorris4335]

Not really, AMD "DELAY LAST SECOND, OUR SHIT IS FUCKED TOO"

[@ElladanKenet]

@@tonymorris4335 I mean, at least they're aware of issues and delaying so they can fix them.... as opposed to being aware of issues, releasing anyway, then blaming everyone under the sun

[@RFC3514]

@@tonymorris4335 - It's not fucked at all, several samples made it through, they're fine (they're just not the X3D models yet). They delayed the official launch so that reviewers compare Zen 5 to _patched_ 14th gen Intel CPUs, which will likely be slower than unpatched ones. The fact that they hadn't even released official prices means this wasn't a last-minute decision, they were waiting for Intel to make a move (announcing the microcode patch). Plus they get to say: "See, we're a very responsible company that won't hesitate to recall every CPU out there that doesn't meet our quality standards (unlike _certain people,_ nudge-nudge), and we'll have it all fixed in less than two weeks."

[@nathangamble125]

Some of Intel's 12th gen CPUs are actually pretty compelling options in the midrange and low-end market. It's just that their newer high-end stuff tends to blow itself up.

[@derek8564]

@@ElladanKenet How much of AMD's issue is actually a problem as opposed to waiting for intel to come out with the post-update chip benchmarks to see how much AMD can charge

[@hippopilot6750]

The gaming industry is playing 4D chess, they're making PC games so unoptimized people will go back to consoles and GPU prices will lower.

[@Giovanni-Giorgio]

Not really, half of the games run on Unreal Engine. Pretty optimized and well supported.

[@Jkaninteangemittnamn]

They sell cards since thye want the cut on you making money on your graphics crap with mining -if you can make 500$ they add this to your gpu since they cant give away money so you should ask who are the gus behind this -wall street or and greedy people like banks and similar

[@cameronbosch1213]

Nah, it's Nvidia doing that with low vRAM in their lower end GPUs.

[@Dragon211]

whats worse is the low end GPUs don't have enough VRAM to even run modern games properly, so you have to pay the higher prices to get the VRAM you need.

[@Jkaninteangemittnamn]

thye know you make money as everyonelse just like a thief and psycopath everyone cheats and steals

[@kaisersolo76]

If you spending 500-600 you should be getting 16gb standard. Not spending that on 12gbvram

[@12coco100]

Yeah people still use their 5700xt and it works pretty good. But what about 12gb 4070 super in 5 years? The 3070 is pretty much dead nowadays, its powerful but the vram kills it for modern games. This is why RDNA 2 is being talked about 1 generation later and not ampere.

[@syncmonism]

@@12coco100 The 5700 XT is starting to have issues in some games because of the 8GB of vram, though considering that it's been five years, and considering that it offered excellent bang per buck for a card released in 2019, and considering that its closest priced competitor from Nvidia had 6GB of vram, and with the more expensive 2060 Super also having 8GB, I definitely wouldn't consider that to be worthy of criticism.

[@Hydra_X9K_Music]

My 4070 has been great to me. Runs like a champ in 1440!

[@12coco100]

@@Hydra_X9K_Music definitely a good 1440p card, but it's not priced well at all. It should be under $500. $600 for 12gb vram is not great.

[@Hydra_X9K_Music]

@12coco100 12 gb is enough for 95% games at 1440p. The games where it's not enough are poorly optimized by the developers. More would be better of course, but 12 gb is certainly enough

[@shadowlemon69]

Latest GPUs in Q3 2024: Sub $100 - Non existent $150 - $250 - Mediocre $300 - $400 - Dogshit $450 - $600 - Mediocre $650 - $800 - Overpriced $850 - $1,000 - Overpriced++ $1,050 and up - For rich people only

[@raivons]

correct,dont buy anyhing for few years buy only used

[@sudd3660]

so now i am rich... have you heard of saving.

[@shadowlemon69]

@@sudd3660 Yes, but I also heard of investing. I'm still broke and complaining about GPU prices because I'm not an adult yet, so I don't care if you're rich.

[@mukkah]

@@sudd3660 in 2024? LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

[@FilthEffect]

Used market isn't perfect though. I dont want a gpu covered in vape residue, pet hair, and human skin...

[@Nianfur]

For the price, there's still nothing for me to upgrade to from the RX 6800 XT.

[@Kreubs]

Same. I think I will have mine for years to come

[@BlubLab-i6w]

Same with my used 3090!

[@mukkah]

6800 XT still a champ imo

[@Rayer24]

Depends on your use case of course, I'd imagine a 4090 would be a big upgrade if you want to play the latest games all the time. If not, the 6800XT is great.

[@snakeinabox7220]

I was so sad when i saw the 600 usd 6950xt deals when 40 series launched . Sandly none of them happened here in macedonia . Got a 7800xt a year ago (wold have prefered a 7900gre , its existance was a myth at thr time ) its going to last me for 4-6 more years., by then ray traceing is going to be a real thing

[@allosaurus3176]

I got a AMD 7900 XTX just because I didn't want to give NVIDIA any more money while they're price gouging an entire industry

[@HULK-HOGAN1]

Love to hear it! Screw Nvidia

[@mickaelsnake6027]

c'est mon reve cette Cg mais je suis trop accroché aux DLSS .. mais j'adore neanmoin que amd est donné le FSR frame gen aux 3000 lol

[@AMORPHISAE]

7900XTX playing at 3460x1440p even cyberpunk full settings and RT mid >60fps avg. Without enabling FMF or FSR.

[@verde5738]

@@AMORPHISAE Try enabling Overdrive and tell us how it goes! For reference, a 4070 Ti Super can reach 60 FPS at 1440p with RT Overdrive (without FG).

[@clockworklegionaire2135]

You just got price gouged by AMD instead LOL

[@1benhouston1]

Funny enough. I had a 3070. No plans to upgrade, then the 7900 GRE came in the picture and I just upgraded to it finally. The value it offers is insane when overclocked slightly. 7900xt was over my budget, 7800xt didn’t offer enough uplift in performance. It was the perfect sweet spot for me.

[@fiddlemydiddle]

how is the running cost on your upgrade? i just sold my 3070 ti because power cost is stupid.

[@norvintinoco9881]

I'm in the same boat I wanna get a 7900 gre but looking at the new 8800xt which might come put in a few months

[@butcherboi91]

I was in the same boat with my 3070 but then the 7900XT price drops happened

[@minhkhoapham950]

Im thinking about jumping too, is fsr that much worse yhan dlss? That’s my main concern right now

[@1benhouston1]

@@minhkhoapham950 personally I don’t notice a difference in gameplay. If you look super close there’s a difference. I used dlss on my 3070 and FSR on my 7900 GRE.

[@NikoQerry]

"The best of a bad situation." Quite an understatement.

[@CantankerousDave]

The "bad situation" has been going on for half a decade.

[@davidmacfarlane4761]

well the situation was even worse in 2020 to about the 1st half of 2022 or so I suppose..

[@EloyBushida]

Its like people are stuck in 2014. Its been a decade, you're not getting an XX80 ti/s for 800~ anymore, its not happening, it will never happen again, its 200~ more now. Its not the end of the world. You people remind me of listening to my boomer grandparents talk about how they could get a bag of groceries and fill their gas tank for ten bucks. The scalping/mining situation for a few years, when you couldn't find ANYTHING for less than 2xMSRP, was when things were bad. Things are fine now, people just acting super weird.

[@davidmacfarlane4761]

@@EloyBushida I have had grandparents that did the same thing and didn't account for inflation when they discussed prices from the old days. I will admit though that the $200 price difference you suggest is a bit on the generous side.. an X70 class card (RTX 4070 for reference) cost $550 in 2024 dollars. an X70 class card (GTX 970 for reference) cost $329 in 2014 dollars. That a 67% difference (not accounting yet for inflation). When inflation is accounted for we find that $1 in 2014 is worth $1.33 in 2024. Inflation accounts for about only 50% of the price hike that is observed.

[@EloyBushida]

​@@davidmacfarlane4761 The 1080TI cost around 800, the 4080 super costs 1000. Its around 200. I'm not just talking about inflation, prices go up outside inflation, its just how it is. If anything the PC and console gaming spaces have been lucky in this regard. I remember buying SNES games for 80 bucks in the 90s. 80 bucks in 1993 is like 170 now.

[@Anderson_Hwang]

Who's excited for RTX 5060 with 8GB VRAM in 2025

[@Zerback]

Probably the same people who think spending 2500usd in a GPU will give you "better performance"😂

[@309electronics5]

And would cost a minimum of 900 dollar and be barely better than the 4060 😂

[@juan180p]

6:16 why does it says 4070ti super (old) and 4070ti super (new) ?? can someone explain please

[@JayUchiha17]

​@juan180p I'm not sure but I don't like this channel because some of the information they give is off. Whatever the 4070ti super card they used to review 8 months ago was giving way lower performance results that what everyone is currently getting. From like 40 fps less that a 4080S to now being around 15 fps less on avg. The comments section was shitting how bad the card was compared to 7900xt. now this are singing a different tune about old and new. I just bought the 4070ti super. Yes all the cards are expensive but I didn't see the point in spending 250 usd extra for a new 4080 super to get 6 to 12 extra fps in certain games because I'm already getting 60 fps at 4k on max settings.

[@Dragon211]

still using a RX 5700 XT playing older games. Perfectly happy waiting for a decent card that won't cost an arm and a leg.

[@raresmacovei8382]

5700 XT with FSR3 FG, Lossless Scaling and modding FSR 2.1/3.1 in all games, the card card has plenty of performance left over. On Linux, it's even up to 30% faster in some games.

[@mukkah]

Bruh me an my RX 6600 lol XD

[@DaHesus]

same here - I would like to upgrade to nvidia for streaming VR , but with those prices..

[@ejouie]

Just got one for $120. Should be a massive upgrade coming from a 5700G. Also upgrading the CPU to a 5700X for $160.

[@smashishere]

@@raresmacovei8382 all games - alan wake 2 ofc

[@kaiserfakinaway5909]

mid year update? more like a MID year update

[@syncmonism]

RX 6800 for 350 is excellent

[@kaiserfakinaway5909]

@@syncmonism getting yesterday's product for this price idk man. We should be getting the latest gpus for that price. Sad, really.

[@saimumsultan4946]

ha

[@juan180p]

6:16 why does it says 4070ti super (old) and 4070ti super (new) ??

[@Neozixxs]

@@juan180p i think because rtx 4070 ti is not gddr6x no more but gddr6

[@Ammarx1]

7900 GRE is where it's at. 4070 ti super perfomance when overclocked at the price of 4070 super. (except for rt, it's not great at it)

[@rob8927]

Recently upgraded gtx 1080 ti I bought used in 2018 for $500usd for 7900xt for $650 on amazon prime day. What a difference in 4K gaming

[@tomstech4390]

Here in the UK its so broken. 4060ti or 7900GRE? gee that's hard lol 7900xt or pay +£100 (15%) for a budget 4070ti super 7900xtx or decent 4070ti super You pretty much only buy Nvidia if you never compare prices and just don't care, I'm surrounded by Nvidia cards but it seems they don't want my money anymore so going forward all the builds I do will be AMD.

[@MisterFoxton]

Much of the world is seeing the same thing, Nvidia is struggling to price cards competitively and I'm wondering if they need refreshes so they can cut prices on non-Super cards to appear competitive. Not that anyone in the know is going to take a 4070 over a 7900XT, but for people looking for a sticker on a prebuilt, it's the best they're going to get.

[@nipa5961]

Same in my area. AMD is always 15-25% cheaper. Nvidia is never an option.

[@Adrian-is6qn]

Nvidia has no motivation to lower prices, they own over 80% marketshare and they go into AI anyways so why bother?

[@Adrian-is6qn]

@@nipa5961 That's why you wait for sale on nvidia cards ;) I got 4080 for 900$ almost 1.5 year ago (which was actually below 7900XTX price at the time xD)

[@Firitesen]

Nvidia is such a poor choice in the low to mid-range when the 7800XT can be found quite often for below £500 while 4070 (supers) are often £100 more with (close-to) MSRP models being worse quality versus comparable Radeon AIB models in that bracket

[@AlexHusTech]

Got a 7800XT build, for £600! Came with 7600, A620, 2TB, 16GB.

[@Monstermunch56]

Bargain! Where'd you get that!

[@AlexHusTech]

@@Monstermunch56 FB market, I switched out some of the parts to my main machine, I got a few pics on my community section.

[@Bogdan00]

Most likely cheaped out on other components, cheap SSD, cheap PSU, cheap MOBO and so on

[@AlexHusTech]

@@Bogdan00 Nah, RM850, Sn850 2TB, Corsair 32GB, SAMA AR01, Etc check my community posts.

[@MehdiTakhim]

Where?

[@Pedaeus]

The 7900 gre overclocked is pog

[@silenthero2795]

I bought me some 2nd hand RX6800 MSI Gaming Trio for around $300 last year. Still going strong 💪

[@anitaremenarova6662]

You can still get those even brand new for like $360, neither company has yet released more efficient 1440p GPU.

[@hyprjay]

Wait I paid 380 for my 7800xt steel legend brand new around release. Has the price really gone up that badly? Lmao

[@ad_fletch]

Damn. 7800xts start at about US$480 in Australia now. Can't find new 6700xt or 6800. I'm basically stuck staring at TPU charts and watching these videos instead of buying a GPU :(

[@drago939393]

@@ad_fletch Which one interests you the most?

[@gdbev]

That is a great card. That was my previous GPU before I upgraded to a 7900 XT

[@janchovanec8624]

In Europe, there is still 6950XT to be had. Got 1 on Prime day for 379$, an absolute steal, though it's only a reference model. Nice interim upgrade from 1080ti.

[@syncmonism]

OMG, that's fantastic! O_O

[@mitsuhh]

post proof

[@defectiveclone8450]

I've been using ATi/AMD for over 20 years now :) always the better value option.

[@geraldh.8047]

But but… the more you buy, the more you save !

[@mukkah]

RX 6600 ftw baaaabbbbyy #criesinbudgetPC lol

[@defectiveclone8450]

@@mukkah i was thinking the ATi Radeon 8500 64Mb card from 2001

[@chills5100]

Well not always as there was also the R9 fury and R9 390x which ran very hot , also paired with the bad drivers of the late 2010's I think which made AMD gpu's a bad buy for people which then went to buy Nvidia.

[@defectiveclone8450]

@@chills5100 i said value.. "cheap is not always good" but still better value.

[@thefurmidablecatlucky3]

even though the current gen GPU market isn't so good right now i think last gen AMD GPUs are amazing, we have 6650XT at $220, 6750XT at $300, 6800 non XT at $360, 6800XT at $430 .. all of which are really good value in my opinion

[@anitaremenarova6662]

6650XT is trash, even 1080p cards need 12GB VRAM today. 6750XT is great if you're in the US and RX 6800 is the budget 1440p king.

[@prestige934]

​@@anitaremenarova6662lmfao what? 6650xt is a budget card my guy. Most games at 1080p is fine on 8gb vram if you dial down a few vram hungry settings

[@mikelay5360]

Swallowing last generation products when new ones are around the corner is totally not an option. I would rather wait.

[@davidmacfarlane4761]

I tend to agree that most of the RX 6000 lineup is attractive for its price.

[@lizardx6504]

@@anitaremenarova6662 Lol 6750 cost 50% more.

[@MrAckers75]

Best bang for buck card …rx6800 by a mile

[@anitaremenarova6662]

If you're in the US then 6750XT beats it at just $300. RX 6800 is available for a good price everywhere which gives it the upper hand in europe and other places however.

[@NadeemAhmed-nv2br]

​@@anitaremenarova6662I don't see under 16gb anymore

[@syncmonism]

@@anitaremenarova6662 For an older system, the 6700 XT or 6750 XT might be the better choice, as an older system is more likely to bottleneck a 6800, and you do need a more powerful power supply, more space in your case, and better case ventilation, to accomodate an RX 6800. However, assuming that your system isn't too slow or just too small to accommodate an RX 6800, even the most basic models of RX 6800 are of better build quality than the cheaper models of RX 6700 XT or 6750 XT, and also considering that it has 33% more vram in addition to significantly more computer power, an additional 50 USD is likely well worth it, and I'd say that the 6800 is actually likely to be a better value, but I think that will also come down to exactly what models are available as well. Pricing and availability can fluctuate a fair bit, and can vary a lot by region. For a new system, the extra 50 USD to get the RX 6800 would be well worth it if you can possibly afford it, imo. Just make sure you have a good enough power supply and a sufficiently large and well ventilated case (it's a good investment to have a good power supply and a well ventilated case anyway).

[@anitaremenarova6662]

@@NadeemAhmed-nv2br It's a budget card, if you can only afford to spend 300 on a GPU VRAM doesn't matter as long as it's at least 12GB.

[@eclxys]

got mine for 250$ while the latest gen are eyewatering 100$+ above MSRP here (i live in a shithole don't ask), couldn't ask for more personally esp considering i need the VRAMs, great and efficient card

[@mix3k818]

Yeeeaahhh, I think I'll stay at the Geforce 9600GT, thank you.

[@syncmonism]

I think it might be time to upgrade my Rendition V1000

[@alikorvus8558]

Go straight to 9060, bypassing all the others :)

[@kacperjestfajny]

RX7900xt owner here. I bought it over a year ago with nice discount for ~250€ less than 4070ti, a direct competitor, was priced back then. The issue was that 12gb of vram was deal breaker for such massive spending on GPU, while it was way worse behaving on my 32:9 Superultrawide monitor for all non-RT games, even with DLSS. And here we are, year later, and i'm still super happy about that purchase at the time. 20gb of Vram is great for both RT and FSR. FSR3.1 rocks. Right now i probably would go with 4080super, as it's much more reasonable card than 4070/4070ti or even regular 4080 were back then. It sucks that Nvidia needed a year to fix their initial bad products

[@zenshakujo8070]

Fixed is an overstatement

[@kacperjestfajny]

@@zenshakujo8070 Maybes. But non-super were under-VRAM-ed, even for RT use, while Super are fine. And better priced.

[@moravianlion3108]

@@kacperjestfajny $1200 for 16Gb vram? That's a F joke. I'm rocking 7900 xtx with 24Gb for $900. Having fun with all CUDA apps thanks to ZLUDA. 4080 super couldn't even run what AMD does.

[@12coco100]

same I wanted to get ray tracing performance but 12gb just sucks no way I'm spending that much money for last gen mid range vram. So I got the 7900xt I target 4k and fsr looks good. I got it for like $720 with a free game that I already own on Playstation but I'm happy with ny purchase. I can play even play ark at 4k 60fps with high settings.

[@2KOOLURATOOLGaming]

@@kacperjestfajny :( 4070ti owner here. DLSS doesn't save me in that many games. The 12GB is hurting in DCS.

[@jerrylepoppin]

I got a 4070 about a month ago. I probably could have optimized my choice more, but I don't regret it. One thing that's important to me that doesn't get brought up often is power consumption balanced with performance. I also couldn't find an equivalent with a two fan set up, and I was able to get the 4070 on sale. These videos are fun, but I don't think they're that useful when you consider the massive variation in people's situations.

[@fightnight14]

The most balanced price to performance to power consumption ratio is the one that I always buy. Most people only look at the price and VRAM which are just two parts of the equation

[@damiangaleski]

I recently bought rx 6800xt - used in great condition for 340$ I think it’s good price and I’m happy

[@demos113]

My 5700xt is still working away on my games like a trooper, i'll see what things are like in a few years time.

[@martiananomaly]

Can't decide between 4070 Super and 7900 GRE. The +4 gigs of VRAM in 7900 GRE feels really useful for longevity but it lacks DLSS which is arguably superior to FSR.

[@obj_obj]

If you overclock the 7900 GRE it's faster than a stock 4070 ti in raster

[@dinoBLM]

just went from a 3070 to a 4080s. i used the FSR + framegen combo on the 3070 and can easily say DLSS + 4000s series framegen is superior, especially in looks. FSR is just so muddy. was really looking into the AMD cards but the software side of nvidia sold me but you cant go wrong with either of those cards :)

[@DonovanMcNabb5]

Find a used 3090 for $600

[@nathangamble125]

IMO the better efficiency and RT of the RTX 4070 Super make it slightly better overall, but the 7900 GRE is also usually a bit cheaper, so neither is clearly a better deal than the other. The best choice probably comes down to what games you play, and whether they work better on AMD GPUs or Nvidia.

[@martiananomaly]

@@DonovanMcNabb5 I'm concerned about thermals with the 3090.

[@marcneljoseph9839]

I'm now realizing that motorcycles are now a more financially sound hobby than PCs.

[@45eno]

I would disagree as I do both. PCs are far cheaper if you can avoid always wanting higher resolutions and ultra detail. Get a 1440p monitor with a target of 150fps, set in game detail to med/high and buy a used $300 GPU and enjoy for the next 3yrs. Sell parts when you find excellent deals.

[@marcneljoseph9839]

@@45eno I can't use my PC to visit Grandma or pick up take out.

[@45eno]

@@marcneljoseph9839 That is some bad logic there bud. You made a statement about MC being a more financially sound “HOBBY”. You didn’t state MC are better at running errands and visiting family. I would have agreed if you said that. And a hobby MC means more cost for insurance, registration, up keep and gear vs just driving your car.

[@marcneljoseph9839]

@@45eno the point was that i get more utility/dollar with the motor cycle, financially sound doesn't mean its cheaper just a better purchase

[@RomanHubin]

@@marcneljoseph9839 but PC makes more profit for a guy that is working in IT sphere, he can't do the job on his bike. Weird comparison. So you are not buying a refrigerator because it can't take you to your grandma?

[@jeff92k7]

Just built a budget gaming pc and put in a Radeon 6750xt. Couldn't be happier with it. It handles 1440p ultra wide gaming without any issues, often pushing framerates up to the max my monitor can show of 144Hz on some older titles that I still like to play, and still comfortably in the 60-80fps range for more modern stuff. Was originally planning a 6700xt, but found a 6750xt on sale for the same price. I had compared them to some team green options, but decided to stick with team red for similar performance, but a few dollars less.

[@dalehammers4425]

Bro's from 50 years in the future with his 67650xt here...

[@shoaibha]

I want at least 12 GB in next gen 5060, else what are we doing in last 6 years, we actually went back from 12 GB to 8GB in last gen instead of increasing VRAM in 70 class they reduced memory in 60 class, pathetic!

[@moravianlion3108]

Welcome to team green

[@yulyman]

I always wait 2 generations for either mid or high end.

[@kosmosyche]

I'm the same, but these days I usually buy last gen mid/high end card second hand, around the time new gen comes to market. Just makes more sense to me from financial stand point and also you can find good deals. So, for example, I bought RTX 3080 around the time 40 series came out. Previously I had GTX1080Ti, which I also bought second hand when 2000 series was already selling.

[@plopolip01]

Ye , went from 1050/rx580 to 3080 and wont upgrade till 50 series comes and amd counterpart hopefully amd has better RT performance next gen...

[@Tupu331]

Thats a budget friendly way to do it. I waited too long upgrading my system from 1070 to 4090 and man, Am I pleased

[@Rayer24]

If you want to get the most value out of your CPU or GPU you should buy them when they launch. There are of course exceptions when prices are exorbitant like in 2021. You really don't save as much money as you think you do, if any at all.

[@bigox666]

I'm trying to build myself a PC. And My job has a 4070 ($529) and I could get it 25% off after Black Friday. So the question is should I wait or buy it

[@HurricaneSparky]

I don't play any games with impressive Ray Tracing, so I nabbed the 7900 XT when it first hit $700. The only Nvidia card I wanted was the 4080S. It was the cheapest of the 4080 models, and it was $1220 at the time that bought I my card. Nvidia prices are fucking nuts if you're just gaming, and don't have specific use cases. I'd argue any GPU price is crazy now, but that's just the market at the moment, sadly.

[@Rob-el8ti]

And it doesn't look like it will get better for next gen, glad we have these doing reviews on gpus

[@TouhouGaijin]

7800 XT for 475 was one of the best purchases I've made for my PC.

[@Silvar55x]

11:22 I found it impossible to keep all the prices in my head. I would have much preferred if you added GPUs and their prices to a list or table one by one. Maybe have the latest addition appear larger, then shrink it once the next one appears. This isn't as much of a problem if you only have two items, but I'd think for 4+ items, maybe consider always having them on screen at the same time to allow quick comparisons (of prices in this instance).

[@TheDownbeatruler]

This is the worst advice ever. If you need a GPU, just buy it. Don't wait for the next generation. You can make that argument for almost everything. The next gen will be more expensive with not that much more performance. Generally speaking, plus most games can't even take advantage of the current gen we have now. You have to give it time for games to catch up in technology.

[@Boschy]

Loving my 7900xtx I bought 2 months ago, great upgrade from my 1080ti that worked flawlessly.

[@moravianlion3108]

Welcome to the gang!

[@FedericoFilaVaudana]

Xtx pulse for 950€ is a bad deal?

[@nErfEr308]

Still rocking a 1080ti and probably will continue to do so until I finish grad school

[@mitsuhh]

when do u finish?

[@tntori5079]

1070Ti. . . .still going strong XD

[@cockylocky]

My seven-year-old 1070 is still kicking. I'm currently debating on whether it's the right time to sell everything and build a new PC from scratch with 7600 and 7700 XT. Wish someone could guide me in this regard!

[@mitsuhh]

@@cockylocky wait for rDNA 4

[@dalehammers4425]

@@cockylocky Next gen AMD should be a massive leap from the 7000 series.

[@AndersPack]

I found a 7800XT (Sapphire Pulse) for ~$610 so I bought it, seemed like a nice deal to me. (this is Sweden so prices aren't low, that card's about $720 normally)

[@snakeinabox7220]

Rember that in Us they dont add tax to the price .so its 480-500usd Pre tax .

[@AndersPack]

@@snakeinabox7220 K, thx for HU.

[@kbcarroll]

I got the 7900xt (xfx merc 310) for $660 2 weeks ago. Happy with it.

[@The_Juggla]

I'm on a 3080 which is getting long in the tooth as far as VRAM goes, looking at a 4080 once the 5000 series is firmly on shelves. Probably when the mid-range cards release. That being said, as a PC flipper I have found that Radeon GPUs are great value right now for anything in the 5000-6000 series used. I grabbed an RX 5600 XT and RX 6600 both for $140 CAD each on the local used market. Just check what's available near you, and you may be pleasantly surprised!

[@yurijai9801]

3080 12gb or 10gb? Cause my 12gb still killing at 1440p

[@deltasixtwo]

I would strongly disagree that 4070 super is a better value than 7900 GRE considering nvidia price premium for LESS vram. there are already non-rtx benchmarks that show that 12gb isn't enough for 1440p. So 16gb vram of 7900 GRE is really a better all-rounder at this price point, either for 1440p or if you want to try 4K.

[@jojookarin4027]

I think in the video he's talking about the 4070TI super, which does have 16gb drama if I'm not mistaken. I have the 4070ti which has 12gb vram. Built my first pc last year and I don't think the 4070ti super was available at that point.. starting to regret some choices like not even looking at amd cards. Oh well that's how you learn I guess

[@deltasixtwo]

@@jojookarin4027 ​​⁠ here’s the moment 7:49 , he is clearly saying that 4070 super non-Ti, that has 12gb of vram is better value than 7900 GRE 16gb, even admitting that they have similar raster performance , but 4070 super non-ti is 30 bucks more expensive, and better at ray tracing thus better value???? Like why bother with raytracing if even in 2024 12GB sometimes not enough for non rtx games? Very strange conclusion on the HUB side.

[@francesco8000]

This is probably the first video i've seen that has a negative view of the 7900 GRE compared to other cards in the similar budget range. If i remember correctly a significant advantage of both 7800 XT and GRE compared to Nvidia is that they have 16 GM of vram instead of 12. Also correct me if i'm wrong but doesn't the GRE have one of the best fps value ?

[@anitaremenarova6662]

Sounds like Nvidia bias, 7900 GRE can be overclocked so well it can become a budget 4K card.

[@francesco8000]

@@anitaremenarova6662 To be fair, the reason i posted this comment is that I have a bias considering that i just bought a 7900 GRE. Having said that while i did find some videos mentioning how the GPU is in a weird place (between 7800 and 7900) this is the first videos that says it's overpriced compared to the 7800.

[@anitaremenarova6662]

@@francesco8000 I meant that Hardware Unboxed has a bias. 7900 GRE is an excellent card, check out benchmarks by Ancient Gameplays to see how well it performs in 4K.

[@snakeinabox7220]

Same . I think they kinda overvalue Rt , its only good in 2 games rn , alen wake 2 and cb 2077. Also 16gb is very good even based on there own Gb usage testing .

[@MLWJ1993]

The GRE is kinda meh tbh. It's a 7800XT for more money that's slightly better than a 7800XT if it overclocks well (not sure you'd want to gamble on it with real money though).

[@ShermSpinner]

One small addition on the 6600 XT - in my experience the 6650 XT can often still be more available and potentially even cheaper. people seem to be forgetting it exists

[@chrissyboy7047]

The 6650xt is a brilliant card for the price. I used one for my budget build last year and it exceeded my expectations. Ive upgrade twice since but that doesnt take away from how good it is still

[@anitaremenarova6662]

I wouldn't buy an 8GB card anymore, get a 3060 12GB

[@syncmonism]

It's not bad, but I would definitely get a 6700 XT or 6750 XT over it, and if you can find an RX 6800 for around 350, and if you can possibly afford it, that's an even better deal, as long as your system is fast enough to not bottleneck it, with a sufficiently strong power supply, and enough space and ventilation to accommodate it.

[@chrissyboy7047]

@@carelesslazy there wasnt enough to choose from 😂

[@chrissyboy7047]

@@carelesslazy in all seriousness though I built what I could afford at the time then got better when I had more spare cash

[@FXIIWrath]

I still have an EVGA RTX 2070 Super KO. For a card that is 4 years old and been through over 5000 hours of use with some graphics heavy titles. The card is still going.

[@twoplustwoequals5733]

I need some cheap GPU rignt now... what are some best options rx 580 around $75 US or something else?

[@simptrix007]

I would get something second hand from Nvidia like GTX 1080 its like +70% performance over RX 580.

[@twoplustwoequals5733]

@@simptrix007 nah, way too expensive I can get brand new rx 6600 for that price

[@moravianlion3108]

$75 is a great price for it

[@twoplustwoequals5733]

@@moravianlion3108 I bought rx 5500 xt for $75, unfortunately 4gb version, but doesn't seems there is much difference

[@EliwanKenn]

Got a second hand 6700xt 2 months ago for around $ 266 for an upgrade from the GTX 1050ti and it was the best purchase I did this year.

[@DragonOfTheMortalKombat]

" The best of bad situation " Couldn't have come up with a better title

[@juan180p]

6:16 why does it says 4070ti super (old) and 4070ti super (new) ?? can someone explain please

[@buckshot.522]

Still rocking my 3070, and it does a pretty good job on every game I throw at it. I might upgrade to the 4070 Ti Super when the 50 series is released and the 40 series prices go down a bit.

[@EscapeFPs]

Just got a sapphire 7800 XT paired with a 7 7800x3d and the combo is a beast , I’m team red all the way will upgrade to the 7900 XTx if need be but probably won’t have to for quite awhile

[@randyneves9701]

I built my brother a gaming PC got his bday and got an XFX 7900GRE for 509.99 at MicroCenter

[@00AfterBurner]

Have had my 7900 GRE for over 3 months. It's a beautiful beast.

[@Micromation]

Yeah, my friend got AsRock 7900GRE Steel Legend because over here in Europe at the time it was over 100eur cheaper than 4070 Super. He's pretty damn happy.

[@iankovac1878]

Got a Sapphire pulse 7900 gre. Great card at msrp.

[@Christian-fj9qj]

@@Micromation I have the exact same card, because I was tired of Nvidia's memory and price shenanigans - a beast of a card. My best GPU purchase in many years.

[@HMM561]

I bought a 7900 GRE for under $700 Canadian about 2/12 months ago, as an upgrade to my Radeon VII and I couldn't be

[@-Hardstyle-]

Awesome work. Cheers! I bought an RTX 4070 for myself. An RTX 4060 for my eldest son. And an RX 6600 for my youngest. Honestly the best value out of the lot was the RX 6600 (Gigabyte Eagle). It looks awesome, performs well, and costs a very reasonable AU$295/US$192. It's easily the smarter option if you are not looking above 1080p in my humble opinion.

[@jbassguy571]

Such a bizarro world where year to year model upgrades aren't meaningful upgrades anymore.Like the 3060 vs 4060, or 6700xt vs 7700xt. My 6750xt still feels pretty good but I suppose it's considered a low end card now at "only" $300usd...

[@pro_grapist]

Just bought a new 6750xt for €330. Going to upgrade to it from my old rx580. I'm not really gaming much anymore and it's mostly online games so I think the 6750xt going going to be fine for me for years to come.

[@kraosdadafusfus8034]

Ya know, 40 years ago, a 10MB HDD used to be worth around $3000, which would be over 10,000 in modern USD prices. I guess we're in a similar tech era of crazy prices for some stuff, and a couple of years later there's a huge price decrease due to some new discovery. It also happened with RAM back then, when the Intel 80486 was king.

[@davidlabedz2046]

My 6700XT is still working well!!

[@dalehammers4425]

One of the pound for pound kings of its generation.

[@Sonic6293]

I have a 6800 and I will probably wait to see how the 50 series shakes out. May just spring for a 5090 because I've never had a halo GPU and it'd be neat to do it at least once.

[@Chris-yc3mm]

Very timely, my Arc A770 just died. Good to know prices are still far too high :(

[@3masouri]

It hasn’t even been 2 years since the card came out what happened

[@MickenCZProfi]

Get an RMA, you still have a warranty afaik

[@Chris-yc3mm]

Artifacting and flickering culminating in Windows killing the graphics drivers and rebooting. I'm currently going through the very slow Intel RMA process. As its an LE model that they stopped making a year ago I'm expecting a refund rather than a fix/replacement but we will see. Its a pity as it has been a great card for me and the only game I had drivers issues in (Halo Reach) they fixed a few months back.

[@mukkah]

Bruh

[@DonovanMcNabb5]

Darn I was thinking of getting the a380 as a 4k av1 encoder.

[@thomasbroker69]

Got myself a 7900 XTX & love it, runs cool & every game is incredible, was always an Nvidea person but both of my last 2 cards suffered from heat & the new ones are even worse plus it was cheaper & Im not bothered by ray tracing personally I don’t like all the glare.

[@Micaenes]

I’m still concerned about the memory bus for $400US is 128-bit. I would expect at least 192-bit for this price point. Based on the current generation performance, I’m keeping my old as heck R9 390

[@stangamer1151]

Bus width means nothing. Memory bandwidth is what really matters. ~300 GB/s is good enough for 1080p, ~500 GB/s is fine for 1440p. 800+ GB/s is OK for 4K.

[@snakeinabox7220]

​@@stangamer1151part of the buss with is the vram cap with it . Currently its standered to use 2gb chips , aka 2gb per 32bit buss . 192bit is minimun 12gb , and 128bit with 4gb chips at gddr 6x speeds is not the best . Gddr7 is faster , but early gen gddr 7 is not that much faster then gddr6x , more power efficent tho .

[@syncmonism]

The low memory bandwidth of the 4060 ti can potentially be an issue, but it's actually very rare, and the memory bandwidth isn't as big of an issue as the lack of compute power, or the very small 8GB vram capacity of the cheaper model. 16GB is probably a bit excessive for that level of compute power, but having more than 8GB is definitely very useful, and there will probably eventually be some games where having more than 12GB could actually be useful with the 4060 ti. The 16GB model is a very slow card for the price, but, if you have very high electricity prices and/or if you also often play games in a hot, poorly ventilated room, and if you tend to play long hours, then the 16GB 4060 ti could end up saving you a lot of money in the long term and actually make back all of the money you could have saved by getting something like an RX 6800 or RX 6750 XT (and you should undervolt it whenever you're not playing demanding games to get the power usage down even lower). The 16GB 4060 ti can also be a good low-end workstation card for some specific types of workloads. It would have made a lot of sense if they had just made one 12GB desktop model of the 4060 ti, but that would have required making a completely different GPU die than the laptop version, which would have cost more money, and it probably would have also needed a 192-bit bus, which would have also cost more money. With the laptop version of the 4060 ti, it is more practical and less of a problem to have only 8GB of memory, given that the GPU runs a lot slower on the laptop variant and thus has less compute power, and likely runs games on a much smaller screen, so turning down the texture quality or the rendering resolution is less likely to actually hurt the subjective image quality as much, though even on the laptop variant, more vram still would have been useful and nice to have.

[@IndyMiraaga]

You'd do fine upgrading to an RX 6600 even, or one a bit pricier with a bit more VRAM.

[@noer0205]

​@@syncmonism no man. Texture is typically the most VRAM intensive setting, while being relatively cheap graphics processing wise. I had an rx580 with 8 GB of VRAM and I cranked that texture setting in most games and it really makes a bit visual difference. Just had to turn off volumetric fog and tune down shadows and lighting a bit and I was good back then It's absolute forced obsolescence of Nvidia to cut down VRAM to the extend that they have since the 10-series

[@HartFalleon]

I got a 7800xt during Amazon Prime day for $470, not huge savings but paying that much for what you get versus what Nvidia offers wasn't bad.

[@no_name900]

The 7900 GRE vs 7800 XT comparison is very misleading. The GRE is 12% more expensive for a 9% uplift in performance, but that's at stock settings where it's very limited. An overclock of 15% to its memory only (which is what TechPowerUp achieived with their sample) results in a 14.9% increase to its performance in a synthetic benchmark. In your 4K 12 game average that results in a 73 FPS average, putting it over the 4070 Ti Super and right under the 7900 XT

[@wfb.subtraktor311]

HUB dont test overclocking. The performance gained from an overclock is not guaranteed and therefore a serious reviewer would never use it as a point of comparison. Of course, I would also get a GRE over a 7800 xt but if AMD wanted to make the card look better they should have just shipped it with higher memory. Edit: speeds, memory speeds.

[@fleurdewin7958]

Overclock settings are very dependent on silicon lottery. You can get a lemon that can't overclock well. And overclocking memory for GPU is such time consuming. Increase in clocks doesn't guarantee increase in performance for GDDR6 because Error Correction kicks in and hurts performance.

[@raza.y]

Yes their conclusions are heavily tilted wrt RT otherwise 7900GRE is the best value if RT is not important. It overclocks by 12-15% to close the gap towards 7900XT and raw performance matching or (in some games) beating a 4070 Ti Super for just around 535 usd.

[@prinzseptim33]

@@wfb.subtraktor311 yup. not fair to test all cards at stock then have one heavily OC. if you OC the 7900GRE then the nvidia user can just OC their and the 7900XT users can do the same.

[@reiudfgq3vrh34ur]

The 7000 series over clocks really well but the 7900 gre is limited by memory only that's why just overclock it and you it will be massively better than the 7800xt​@@prinzseptim33

[@sethoselken9562]

Feeling good about my recent pick up, a sapphire toxic extreme 6900 XT for $400 cdn. Had to drive 4 hours to grab it, but totally worth it.

[@Cornholio_X]

Still satisfied with my RTX3080!

[@Maxz155]

And much better using with LS FG or FSR FG if the game handles it well

[@puffyips]

6800XT & 7800X3D on a 1440p 240hz oled has been pretty nice for me. Id upgrade to a 8800XT if it’s 7900xt perf w better raytracing at

[@ertai222]

I have the same set up. My monitor is the Dell Alienware aw3423dwf.

[@Rogerkonijntje]

The 6800 is the only card worth the money. 16gb vram, fast at 1440p with maybe upscaling here and there. 350$/400€ is a great deal for a new system.

[@anitaremenarova6662]

Definitely, it's the best value 1440p card out there. Also here in europe it's going for 389€ rn.

[@antonnjames4626]

I did a dumb thing and bought an RTX 3060Ti for gaming during the scalperdemic. That said, I don’t regret it now. The price was high but the amount of use I’ve had out of it as a CUDA machine with Torch/Tensorflow for coming on 4 years has definitely paid it off. The 40 series has given me nothing in my price bracket as a decent upgrade so when I retire my desktop from work duties, I expect to keep my 5800X/3060Ti rig for a good while to come. The only reason that would change would be if Nvidia performs a (doubtful) out-of-the-park price/performance uplift in the 5060 class this coming generation.

[@gctypo2838]

I paid 1200 USD (plus $200 tax) for a 6800 XT at the height of the ethereum mining boom. It's a great card, but I feel I gotta hold on to it for at least another generation and a half for how much I paid for it.

[@25MHzisbest]

It's always the best of a bad situation and it will only get worse going forward.

[@user-wq9mw2xz3j]

worse as in more money for same tier, but better as in more performance for some money

[@EzzaTown]

I always trust random internet comments.

[@Galf506]

Nah, next gen will probably be quite good. I think Nvidia can't pull the 8gb poop on 70 series anymore, probably not even on 60 series anymore. They may want to slightly increase memory bus and PCIe lanes as to screw over people who bought the 4060, which is a classic in their playbook. DLSS looks fantastic too, it's the greatest addition to gaming since, idk, 3D accelerated graphics. The only issue right now is that AMD seems unable to un-fck FSR, it's like 5 years behind Nvidia and it's not getting better.

[@Rogerkonijntje]

i like your optimism.

[@Immortalits]

@@Galf506 Is AMD GPUs only problem with ray tracing from the software side or is it also an architecture issue?

[@techluvin7691]

I surmise we are talking about US pricing…….because the Asus TUF 4090 OC is $2600.00 in Canada.

[@patrikmiskovic791]

Rx 7900gre or best option rx 6800 fsr is perfect so

[@MrAckers75]

Rx6800 best bang for buck by miles

[@DOOM.Fi3nd]

New architecture > old architecture. Radeon isn't going to continue supporting old GPUs forever.

[@anitaremenarova6662]

@@DOOM.Fi3nd Any evidence to support that? RX 580 received new drivers just 2 weeks ago. Also the most performance for the least amount of money will always be better than overpriced new architecture.

[@DOOM.Fi3nd]

@@anitaremenarova6662 You''ll get updates but AMD will not release new features. I remember reading somewhere that with RDNA 4 will come features that will only be available for 7000 series GPUs while those below excluded.

[@moravianlion3108]

​@@DOOM.Fi3ndYou can't use DLSS on 10 series that needs it the most, while you can use FSR with it. Now tell me about abandoning the old architecture.

[@LaFPholytrinity]

The rx 6800xt is also pretty good at overclocking which may be relevant if you don´t mind messing with clock speeds and voltages while shopping in the 500$ price range.

[@ChristiaanHunter]

amd 7900xtx been good to me

[@x1625]

Happy to see my RX 6750XT getting a thumbs up.🐸

[@poocruncha3266]

see that the reason i jumped ship from nvidia , you're going off raytracing instead of raw performance, with out raytracing, dllss, fsr, fluid frames, 7900gre is better than the 4070 super and 4070. the 4060ti is the same price as a 7800xt,only Nvidia fan boys will buy a 4060ti over a 7800xt....😆🤣

[@mdevries8495]

Used to buy new gpus, but with these prices second hand is way better value. Upgraded from a 5700xt to a second hand 6800xt, mainly for the running of stable diffusion/AI and gaming. Fun thing is that the seller updated to the 7800xt (for some reason) Yes AI with AMD is definitely harder, but it works and you get more vram for less money. Bit sad that the industry is like this, but at least it forces us consumers to be environmentally friendly haha

[@moravianlion3108]

ZLUDA is also your good friend. I ran bunch of CUDA base apps with it on my 24Gb 7900 xtx. Love it!

[@carsonj4031]

the rx 6800 is still on sale for around $360. 4070 performance for $200 less.

[@EthanLeitch]

It'd be intestering to see a poll of how many people actually use or care about ray tracing. Personally I have a 4070 Super and haven't found a single case where the performance hit was anywhere near worth the visual improvement.

[@Jzwiz]

Sadly i was forced to upgrade cause i was stupid and used gaming laptops as a teen and it finally died like, blue sparks magic smoke died. So i decided id grab something that last a long time and grabbed a 4080 super :L (was feb sadly) coulda went 4090 but it didnt seem worth to me. cant wait to see it be like half off in a few months. If nvidia didnt hate gamers and gave cards lots of vram/bandwidth i woulda got a 4070 super prob but 12 gigs is a nah

[@moravianlion3108]

nvidia doesn't hate gamers, they love them! Because they're always willing to pay extra, lol

[@Raphmatic5000]

I've been on an Alienware M17 R2 since 2020 so I decided to just build a PC. I got my 7900 GRE at $509 from Newegg so I think I lucked out. I'm finishing my build probably this weekend or next weekend. This 2060 mobile is really insufficient for a number of games I want to play or tried playing, so I am excited to return to desktop level graphics.

[@kkrolik2106]

second hand Sub $250 RX 6700 xt is king ;) Sub $200 Rx 6700 10gb

[@DekarNL]

At 14:24 the RTX3050 6GB will run without external power. This means it's a great card for some pre-builts or old office pc's. You can transform an old pc into a decent rig for 200 bucks. Not bad!

[@Polotoed]

7:39 Love the Viva la Dirt League Figurines

[@dare2liv_nlove]

Oooh, thanks for pointing them out. I completely missed them! 😂

[@wikis88]

I've just ordered hellhound 7900gre for 549eur, gonna upgrade from 6700xt. Upgraded to 5700x3d from 3600 for 180eur a few days ago. Maybe not the smartest idea to buy a gpu right now, but with 32gb 3600 ddr4 and my old b350m-plus which I paid 100eur back in 2017 I'm gonna max the f out of my am4 platform for a few more years.

[@Efsaaneh]

Yeah I don't think buying a 550€ card right now was the best choice. I mean it's your money, do whatever you want but 6700xt itself is also pretty good, if you were jumping to from 1080p to 1440p i believe you could've waited just a little bit longer.

[@anitaremenarova6662]

@@Efsaaneh New mid.range cards are still almost a year away. It's perfectly fine especially if it's only for 1440p where the 6700XT is slowly finishing its life cycle.

[@wikis88]

@@Efsaaneh I switched to 1440p with 6700xt, on some titles it was a bit underwhelming, but I also do simracing with oculus rift cv1 which is old, some say obsolete, but has oled screens and I prefer oled to better resolutions of newer headsets. 6700xt have started to struggle with modded Assetto Corsa in VR. With 7900gre I should be fine until hopefully new affordable headsets with oled screens come and then I'll build a new system.

[@gambasfile7157]

The question is, is Ray Tracing really worth it?

[@ChristopherYeeMon]

I would say no

[@jabetsgi]

i recenetly did an upgrade from gtx 960 to a rtx 3060 12g and i'm very happy with this budget king. plays every light game at 1440p and ps1 emulation rendering easily at 4k. when i buy something new i will make this thing a dedicated media player pc for living room. i heavily recommend this gpu for people on tight budget who just want to game modern games

[@anitaremenarova6662]

Best budget options as of right now (US/EU prices): 1080p max - RTX 3060 12GB at $280/300 1440p max - RX 6800 16GB at $360/422 2160p max - 7900 GRE 16GB at $530/608 1080p max + RT - RTX 4070 12GB at up to $489 used 1440p max + RT - RTX 4070 ti super at $780/870 2160p max + RT - RTX 4090 or ideally wait for gen 50

[@moravianlion3108]

Are you saying that $1600 nvidia card prone to melting isn't good enough for 4k? Should I buy $900 AMD then, for better value and 4k gaming?

[@anitaremenarova6662]

@@moravianlion3108 Yes, as a flagship it would be insufficient even without the connector issue. Wait for 50 series or if you really need a 4K card now 7900GRE/XT work just fine.

[@moravianlion3108]

@@anitaremenarova6662 Now you're recommending $500 AMD card for 4k? lol

[@anitaremenarova6662]

@@moravianlion3108 Yes, it's a budget 4K card that works extremely well when overclocked. Rn you can't get all the new RT to work alongside 4K at a playable framerate so might as well not even bother until they figure it out with 50 series flagship.

[@moravianlion3108]

@@anitaremenarova6662 $1600 4090 is not capable of playable 4k framerate? That's kind of a joke on nvidia part then, isn't it?

[@Valkian24]

I managed to score a 4080 while it was being discontinued (at least the GALAX model that I bought) as my old 1080ti was starting to (possibly) die out. Cost me about $1500AU, which is a lot but it was the best I can get before it was gone. Especially considering I had to buy a new MB and CPU since my old ones died out.

[@anitaremenarova6662]

That's not a lot for a 4080, you got it for cheaper than 99,9% of people.

[@visualyt]

6950xt for 500$ is a very good option

[@JesManVP]

I agree he should have put that there I got the 7900gre tho because it was also going for 499

[@ocha-time]

$159 for the A580 is actually a pretty decent get if you need to shave a bit more money off the total; it's close to A750/RX6600 performance, and I personally didn't have any compatibility issues, though they are out there if you're digging deep deep into the Steam backlog I'm sure.

[@trueNahobino]

Yeah Arc in general is so good now, it just works. I've never had any issues with my a770, from installing drivers to daily stuff to gaming and video editing.

[@mariano3113]

I went from RTX 2060 6GB (HP OEM variant...noisy whine) to an RTX 4070 founders edition that someone offered to buy for $850(sold) for and then bought an A750 AsRock for $150 (on sale). I have been impressed with the card other than ARC Software control sucks, as does the default Fan wanting to stay at 0rom until 60°C . (Adjusted so Fans are on all the time at around 1,200-1,400 rpm and temps are around 54°C even when playing First Decedent (1080p)

[@mariano3113]

Now awaiting Battlemage or 50-series card with at least 16GB of Vram as replacement. (A750 just surprised me for value)

[@trueNahobino]

@@mariano3113 Yeah Arc control is definitely the worst part of having an Arc gpu lolll. It never finds the right drivers to update and it doesn't have that many useful features so I just avoid it all the time. Much easier to just get the drivers from Intel's website.

[@jorge69696]

The 7900 GRE can be over 20% faster than the 7800 XT in some scenarios. It's also more power efficient and overclocks better.

[@anitaremenarova6662]

Yeah, it's just a better card in every single way including price to performance.

[@A3r0XxLol]

If 5000 series is revealed in January it still takes a couple of months before there's good offers for the 5070 super variant. So it's either buying a card right now and having it in your PC vs. waiting ~8-10 months. You only wait if you want the 5090 at release in January.

[@garwynrosser8907]

Guys, I'm just never going to count DLSS as a price premium. Encoders and such are a consideration. Perhaps even ray tracing for a premium. But never DLSS or frame generation. I'm not paying NVIDIA to fake it. I'm paying for the the actual frames. If they can't deliver, then don't charge a premium for failing to deliver.

[@jayg339]

Ehh, I kind of disagree. If DLSS is an option, and you are gaming at 1080p/1440p, not using it is leaving a good amount of performance on the table. When using it from 1440p to upscale to 4k, it looks outstanding. Strong upscaling isn’t just good for the present, but ensuring the card lasts a good while when games get more demanding(imo). It’s closer than it used to be between FSR and DLSS now with the latest FSR upgrade and FSR Frame Generation. It makes the AMD cards more compelling.

[@mukkah]

Good point to stand on, I think

[@srn7254]

DLSS is very much a huge factor if you're gaming at 4K - there's pretty much no perceptible difference between native and DLSS Q at 4K (at least on normal display sizes like 27" or 32"), and it basically allows for smooth 90+ FPS experience with latest AAA titles even with mid-tier options like 4070 Ti Super without frame generation at all.

[@nathangamble125]

@@jayg339 "you are gaming at 1080p/1440p, not using it is leaving a good amount of performance on the table" At 1440p mostly yes, but at 1080p it's really not. You're giving up some graphics detail, and if you're willing to lose a small amount of graphics detail in exchange for better performance you can just turn graphics settings down.

[@moravianlion3108]

Encoders? My 7900 xtx runs Resolve faster than my 7950x CPU while consuming around 100w less. And I'm running various CUDA apps on settings 4080 super can only dream of, due to lack of vram. ZLUDA just made entire nvidia generations obsolete in yet another way. No need to pay extra for green.

[@wisnudJat]

Use 1% low as the most important factor to buy (at least 60 fps for your gaming resolution preference), you can increase fps using upscaler/turn down in-game settings

[@ChristopherYeeMon]

I sank 750 on a 7900XT. I better be happy

[@moravianlion3108]

I sank $900 on 7900 xtx. After almost a year, still no regreats!

[@ratreptile]

You will love it.

[@anderswanlin8022]

Buying used is also viable. I just got a 6900XT for $380 USD and have no complaints

[@PrrOPHET-no6qe]

lets not forget the overclocking potential of the 7900 GRE, just memory overclock makes it upto 20-25% faster

[@svenyproud]

Yes still the card offers unplayable garbage experience because its missing DLSS. The only AMD card to buy is XTX because this card can run everything on native.

[@PrrOPHET-no6qe]

@@svenyproud yo should check the gains first. crying about native performance and favoring nvidia for DLSS. if you are a fanboy , just accept it.

[@svenyproud]

@@PrrOPHET-no6qe i accept that AMD is absolute gargabe

[@PrrOPHET-no6qe]

@@svenyproud haha, acting like knowing tech and then turned out to be a fan boy.I use a 7900xtx,Its a smooth experience for me.i mostly play battle royale, and multiplayers

[@svenyproud]

@@PrrOPHET-no6qe yes the XTX is good card because you can run things native, this is what i said but maybe reading is hard for you. Still inferior to 4090.

[@Hatredy11]

If you don't care about ray tracing or fake frames the 7900 GRE makes sense over the 4070 Super because it has more VRAM. Oddly, they left that out.

[@syncmonism]

The 7800 XT is probably a better deal as it's just so close to the 7900 GRE in performance at a significantly lower price. The RX 6800 at 350 is definitely a better deal as well.

[@Hatredy11]

@@syncmonism I believe the GRE VRAM and higher raster performance make the card a better option for mid-level VR. Unfortunately, most popular tech channels are allergic to testing VR.

[@necuz]

569 days ago I bought a 4070 Ti which has been consistently fantastic. The only change since then is that now I could get the couple of percent faster Super refresh for 30€ more. Back when hardware was getting obsolete in a few years I didn't have the money to keep up, now when I do the rapid progress has ground to a halt...

[@hadesflames]

Are there really people out there making GPU purchase making decisions based on Ray tracing? That's so wild to me..

[@puffyips]

It’s less wild as we head into the future where it will be a necessity for mid range cards to have good raytracing especially from amd.

[@moravianlion3108]

​@@puffyipssince when is optional graphical setting a necessity? It's like trying to convince someone that you can't game without MSAA.

[@mitsuhh]

@@moravianlion3108 Ray tracing isn't optional in some games

[@Roll_the_Bones]

@@puffyips I don;t understand why it will be "necessary", though? It just isn't, it'll always be just optional, for single-player games...? It's positively undesirable for competitive multi-player games, like DLSS, for all the reasons that we know about. Anyway, you want it, buy it!

[@moravianlion3108]

@@mitsuhh RT isn't optional in some games? Name one. I couldn't google any.

[@NoOneYouWouldKnowOf]

Went with the 4070 Super myself, after a long debate between the 4 in that range, and I love that thing. I'm not really sold on raytracing tho. It certainly does look cool, but by the time I'm immersed into a game and not really focusing on minor details like reflections and water and all that jazz I don't really notice it.