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@CoffeeShowcase19 күн бұрын
I have the Tsubame version of the Wave and it is easily my most prized piece of coffee gear. Glad you made this video, even if it was a long time ago. Still great to see.
@thefatiguedpalate4 жыл бұрын
As a earphone enthusiast, that speaker analogy was so helpful :')
@coffeechronicler4 жыл бұрын
😅
@katenashef28004 жыл бұрын
Yes! Me too! About to buy myself a Kalita now :)
@ximono3 жыл бұрын
Hario = Grado
@pushslice3 жыл бұрын
for those of us older music freaks, akin to the classic 'West Coast Sound' (JBL) vs 'East Coast Sound' (Advent, AR)?
@sabergermd2 жыл бұрын
I started with the V60 Glass 4 months ago with un-tabbed Hario filters. I use a Baratza Virtuoso grinder and Timemore scale. I try to be consistent in technique. I use a 1:15 ratio. The results are very variable. I get great cups and not so great cups. I then tried the Kalita Wave 185 ceramic. The results have been much more consistently good and with a lot more tolerance for small changes in technique. Just my experience. Thanks for the helpful videos.
@tradycyjnegoleniezbartgee Жыл бұрын
Try Tetsu Kasuya 4:6 method. Every time delicious coffee. You don't need a goose neck kettle even when using this method.
@susumu124 жыл бұрын
Found you because of the 1Zpresso JX review on your blog. Great videos, keep it up! Big fan of the in depth approach. The algorithm cant keep quality channels like this hidden forever. Also, if you do a video review for 1Zpresso grinders, 1 in Chinese is Yi and sounds like the letter E. So it's E Z presso.
@coffeechronicler4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words Richard! I'm actually planning on making a video review of the Jx soon, so will remember that pronounciation hack 😉
@alexlozano752 жыл бұрын
I used to make coffee in v60,but since i start use kalita Wave,fell in love with the extraction results
@Kamuri934 жыл бұрын
Great review. Thank you! I totally agree with the V60 plastic as I have broken 2 ceramics lol Plastic drippers are way more difficult to break and are fairly inexpensive. I have both V60 and Kalita. If you are a coffee enthusiast, always nice to have both and see what differences you may notice with the 2 different drippers snd filters.
@coffeechronicler4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words! Yes, plastic drippers have their use. I have also broken a few of them over the years, but they do take a lot of abuse :)
@joelmontesdeoca65724 жыл бұрын
Awesome review but the audio was super low.
@coffeechronicler4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Joel. Yeah, know about the audio, it should better in my recent videos.
@loodog5553 жыл бұрын
@@coffeechronicler Thanks!
@redderpom4 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed your analysis. You made points no one else has made, so this is a very unique video and brings fresh content. Unfortunately, your conclusions are also the polar opposite of the “conventional wisdom,” in terms of which is recommended for beginners. Your well-reasoned advice is noted and appreciated.
@coffeechronicler4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Sometimes the conventional wisdom needs an update, that's one of the goals with this channel :)
@thebarakАй бұрын
I've tried and taste tested them all. I found the Hario was my 3rd favorite. The humble Melitta was my 2nd favorite. The Kalita won for me. The thing is, I have the metal one and there is never a stall or a clog, unless the grind is too fine. But I use the smaller 155 size since I am the only coffee person in this house. Perhaps the issue you speak of is unique to the larger 185 size in metal. I drop everything so the metal is perfect for me! All three brands make great coffee though, and paper filtered coffee is proven to be healthier.
@mikekeller52023 жыл бұрын
I like your videos. Great content. Keep em coming. I use both drippers everyday but find the opposite results as you. When I use the wave the coffee has a thicker body than the v60 and a harsher acidity with light roast. With the v60 I get more flavor clarity. Lately I’ve been using the osmotic technique you showed with the v60 n I’ve been getting fantastic results. Still can’t decide which dripper I like more tho.
@beaver6d93 жыл бұрын
I think I got my first v60 around 2005 and the brew methods were very different back then compared to now. Honestly, they were a lot more dependent on pouring technique compared to flat bottom style methods now, so I ended up moving to the kalita. I randomly started watching v60 methods again and they were much easier, so that's my go-to now. I like the wave a lot but I get so annoyed dealing with filters that lose their shape, so I'm not going back any time soon lol.
@soandysirable3 жыл бұрын
thank you for this video!! i'm getting the plastic V60 so i dont have to worry about breaking anything and i like that it's more "fun" as you say hehe, plus the V60 filters are easier to find (from where i'm from) and easier, and less fussy to store. thank you for your great points esp about the differences between the metal vs ceramic kalitas.
@coffeechronicler3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Andrea. The plastic V60 is a corner stone in most coffee lover's tool kit, so I'm sure you'll be happy 🙂
@DanielleEmberley3 жыл бұрын
I prefer the V60 primarily because I find it much easier to separate and properly place the filters when I half awake in the morning.
@dilmurodavalbaev13924 жыл бұрын
Very informative video, thanks Asser. V60 is my go to brewer these days. I used to mostly use Aeropress before, but I find V60 gives me more sweetness and clean taste. Plus I really enjoy the process of making it
@coffeechronicler4 жыл бұрын
That's great to hear! Yes, usually V60 is a lot more crisp and sweet compared to the AP. Generally, I also like it more...
@cityonfoot60233 жыл бұрын
I think it’s the difference in the filters used that gives the cleaner taste. While the Aeropress microfilter has smaller pores to block out particles, it also has a smaller surface area to absorb the oil. A pour over keeps a lot of that out of the server/cup.
@mclark42183 жыл бұрын
So glad you mentioned Hario filter quality now poor. I thought it was just me. My last batch is noticeably different and not in a good way. Lighter in color and rougher feeling. Very disappointing when something that was good is now bad and not dependable. Don’t fix what isn’t broken!
@joshuahalls293 жыл бұрын
These filters are supposed to be great. Fast flowing so you can grind finer. shop.squaremilecoffee.com/products/fast-coffee-filter
@themeowzers934 жыл бұрын
This makes so much sense as I have replaced the kalita stainless steel filter cup with the similar one from tiamo, because tiamo has a nifty design in the bottom to allow better drainage.
@paulmillerick40923 жыл бұрын
As always, thorough & informative. Great video! Especially helpful to know differences in Kalita drippers! I'm trying out the Fellow XF - have you used one yet? Despite the expense & specialty filters, it works well for me with various coffees. Thank you
@DJaquithFL3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic information and a sincere thank you. The ceramic Kalita Wave 155 it's on the top of my list now. 👍👍
@montagdp Жыл бұрын
I have a V60 and just ordered a 155 glass wave, kind of on a whim. I like that with the filter design it should have good heat retention without the need to use plastic, plus I just wanted to try a flat bottom brewer. Sounds like the glass version shouldn't have much of an issue with stalling. I'll have to be extra careful not to drop it like I did with my ceramic V60.
@bluesfool13 жыл бұрын
I ordered both and will try each.
@igalk4744 жыл бұрын
i have both , the v60 is cheaper and is more accessible at stores as well as it's filters easy to find , but kalita has higher extraction and great body ,has less channeling and has better taste and repeatability, if you get kalita , get the larger 185 glass one , not 155 filters , i really like kalita wave style , better then v60 and chemex , quality stuff , i use this for light roast coarser grind then espresso , and for espresso find grind dark roast i use cafelat robot, v60 is very delicate with how you pour water , kalita is more forgiving and consistent, so it's a great shot every time , i usually use bottled water , and melodrip gives great results for drip coffee
@coffeechronicler4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I think the 155 model can be a bit awkward to fit the filters into. However, the glass version of 185 is a bit fragile for my taste, so I usually recommend Hasami ceramic
@JorgeAlvarado-nx9tv4 жыл бұрын
When you have both, the choice depends on the profile of your coffee beans. A tall, washed, very fruity coffee with high acidity, let's say a Yirgacheffe from Ethiopia, goes much better in a V60. On the other hand, a natutal or honey bean from Costa Rica, medium roasted, evidently calls more a Kalita.
@emirdemirhan11863 жыл бұрын
I want to use the kalita but i cpuld t find any filter for it. Can the regular v60 filter be used on it
@igalk4743 жыл бұрын
@@emirdemirhan1186 i order those from: The Coffee Collective website
@emirdemirhan11863 жыл бұрын
@@igalk474 for me its some time and costs like *2 more.
@itellsri4 жыл бұрын
Awesome review as always Asser...Very informative. Looks you like v60 better than kalita.....and I have 2 questions. Which is better for a single cup 15 grams of coffee #1 or #2 size v60 ? Does increased bed depth on a smaller cone deliver better results ? Also when brewing with permanent stainless filters ( like Zulay’ kitchen) on a v60 do the ribs even matter. Once you go paperless , I feel it’s altogether a different brewer with a different taste. What’s your take ?
@coffeechronicler4 жыл бұрын
I like them both, but find the V60 easier to recommend to most people. Which is a bit ironic, since the usual advice is the other way around :) As far as I know, the drain hole and the geometry should be the same on both size 1 and 2, so the bed would be identical. The only real improvement with size 1 would then be that you can get the kettle closer to the brew bed. However, even though it's probably just placebo on my side, it does feel a bit more suitable to brew small doses in small brewers. I haven't really used steel filters so can't say much about them.
@itellsri4 жыл бұрын
The Coffee Chronicler sounds good...I have been using the stainless steel from Zulays kitchen and I don’t really miss paper filters anymore. Coffee tastes much better. They are better than the Swiss gold I have ....
@RedwoodEmpire92522 күн бұрын
V60 for the win. Although I think the april brewer would be the best flat bottom dripper from research I've done.
@bonnies7507 Жыл бұрын
Great information..thank you ! Fyi..somethings wrong with the audio. I had to turn my volume up to 50 something to barely hear you. I just watched other videos and they were fine...
@margot60413 жыл бұрын
Where did you find the screen for the bottom of the kalita stainless steel? What is the diameter?
@loodog5553 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I could repeat the same things you've already heard a bunch of times from the other commenters about volume, but I think you got it! I am frustrated that KZbin doesn't let you upload a replacement version of a video while keeping the views, url, etc... Instead you have to hear the exact same complaints for the rest of your life! Overall, I am very surprised that you basically come to the opposite conclusions of what the "common wisdom" is i.e. that the V60 is more fickle and for experts, but that Wave is more consistent for beginners. I'd really be interested in some kind of metric that measures what people are talking about. You've got a handy little graphic there involving flow rates. Is there a way to put measurement and numbers to the claims about which one is more consistent? I just get frustrated that there are so many opinions about these things without any way to weigh the opinions. Anyway, thanks for your contribution to the coffee world! Pourover is the one coffee method I haven't created a video for, mostly because I can't imagine adding anything to James Hoffman's Ultimate V60 technique video.
@Johannesduelund3 жыл бұрын
Great stuff; fresh and important thoughts to spread in the Coffee Community.
@kakaisthecat4 жыл бұрын
Could you do a Espro Bloom review and comparison? I am still trying to decide if I should purchase this new product.
@coffeechronicler4 жыл бұрын
Maybe in the future. It seems pretty interesting...
@dds49112 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this vid. !!!
@j0hnnykn0xv1lle3 жыл бұрын
The NYTimes gave the opposite opinion - saying the Hario is for the advanced brewer and the Wave is for the beginner, I value your opinion a lot more than the NYTIMES.
@drdiaosez4 жыл бұрын
great video! audio is a bit quiet and muffled
@coffeechronicler4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, working on the audio for the next video!
@cyclopsamurai3 жыл бұрын
What do you think of CAFEC SFP (Support Forest Paper) filters? Thanks!
@ferdinandludo88513 жыл бұрын
Is there a difference between the stainless, sandstone, ceramic Kalita ??
@BatPotatoes4 жыл бұрын
Maybe I should look into a dispersion screen for my Kalita. I notice the draw down will occasionally slow down drastically like you mentioned. I keep both at home, different coffees will favor one or the other. I really dislike working with the kalita filters, they crinkle, lose their shape, tend to bunch up while I'm rinsing with hot water. The v60 filters aren't nearly as fussy
@coffeechronicler4 жыл бұрын
A good hack is to use a tap water center pour for rinsing until the cone is around half full. After that the shape is locked in place and then it becomes a lot easier to rinse. Btw. I will test another Kalita hack soon that might be better than the dispersion screen.
@doston12 жыл бұрын
Are these meant to be used with a moccamaster? You reviewed that machine and mentioned these drippers, but I wasn't sure if you meant they could be used with the technivorm moccamaster. I have a moccamaster coming in the mail today and want to make the most of it.
@coffeechronicler2 жыл бұрын
Not at all, I was just doing some fun experiments. Moccamaster is good as is 👍
@JuliusSP1 Жыл бұрын
would you say it is difficult to uniformly saturate the grounds in a Kalita Wave, particularly those that are within the folded portions of the filter?
@coffeechronicler Жыл бұрын
Not that difficult if you have a gooseneck kettle
@richardt.1119 Жыл бұрын
The Tsubame Wave doesn't need a diffuser, as the bottom of the filter does not come in contact with the brewer (elevated by about 15 millimeters)
@pandaownage4 жыл бұрын
Nice insightful comparison! Reading your article I'm curious about the Cafec dripper. If you have them all, I would love to see them all side by side brewing. Also, I'm curious how you brew with each brewer. I'm sure some are more fun than others, and to some extent the differences between drippers are minimal enough that it's just for fun or aesthetics haha
@coffeechronicler4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Derek. You can check out my IG profile, I have a story about V60 vs Cafec over there. I will do more dripper comparisons in the future. But yes you're right - at some point it veers more into aesthetics and subjective opinions rather than objective coffee science :) My brewing style on all of them is pretty similar to the Kalita Wave method I laid out in the previous video.
@dukmunky3 жыл бұрын
What dispersion screen do you use? Does it work with the 155 size kalita?
@margot60413 жыл бұрын
Good video no hype which is nice!
@bartjoboy4 жыл бұрын
Lots of people say that the V60 is actually a lot harder to start with since your pour technique affects the brew more than on the Kalita Wave. I still started out with the V60 though and got amazing results so far :)
@coffeechronicler4 жыл бұрын
Yup, it's just a very persistent myth. V60 is great to start on 👍
@fiendishshape3 жыл бұрын
I own a lot of brewing devices and the only one I regret buying is the Kalita Wave - the way it constantly clogs is infuriating or just randomly brews too fast if I grind too coarse. Rather than recommend the wave to beginners I think the clever dripper should be the standard suggestion. Lately I've become pretty fond of the Kalita 102 V shaped dripper. I'm surprised this and the Beehouse don't get more attention.
@paulmillerick40923 жыл бұрын
Would you say adding the Flair dispersion screen to this Kalita Wave metal dripper makes it's flow rate more like the other other Kalita drippers? Is it that much of a game changer? Also just curious: can i use the Flair dispersion screen in the other Kalita Wave Drippers - like glass or Ceramic? Thank you!
@coffeechronicler3 жыл бұрын
The dispersion screen helps quite a bit. I also drilled bigger holes in the steel Kalita, so can't remember how much impact each of the hacks made. But combined they make it act like the other Kalitas. The screen also fits the other models.
@paulmillerick40923 жыл бұрын
@@coffeechronicler I saw your video on drilling the holes. Not my thing so i'm glad the dispersion screen will help at least. Thank you!
@katevs75414 жыл бұрын
Hello! Have you tried using an origami dripper? How could you compare it with the kalita? Thank u!
@coffeechronicler4 жыл бұрын
Yes, in one of my most recent videos I cover the origami 🙂
@Tkufoy2 жыл бұрын
Nice videos but the quality will improve by using a better microphone. Volume is very low. Thank you
@AlT-qk4iq3 жыл бұрын
Hi, where can i buy the dispersion screen for the kalita 155 steel? Thanks
@coffeechronicler3 жыл бұрын
Flair Espresso's website.. For the Pro model.
@MrArdytube Жыл бұрын
❤ thanks
@nindythelittlebarista4 жыл бұрын
i like both...kalita makes coffee sweeter?
@coffeechronicler4 жыл бұрын
Probably not scientifically sweeter, but it brings out some of those characteristics
@4broadacre4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. If possible would it be possible to do brewing technique videos?
@coffeechronicler4 жыл бұрын
For the Kalita Wave, you can see my video from a few weeks ago. Hario V60 recipe coming in the near future :)
@Jorge-hn1ye4 жыл бұрын
Anyone in the comments who lives in Germany ? (I need recommendations for v60)
@YustyParadigma3 жыл бұрын
For all Kalita wave version. Which is best for maintaining temperature consistency?
@coffeechronicler3 жыл бұрын
Probably glass or steel, but I still like the ceramic more