Harley Benton S620 TB : best cheap shredding machine ?

[@droidfan]

I have to say this guitar is the best inexpensive, instead of cheap, guitar there is. It was my 2nd HB. Got it in ruby red! I put some DiMarzio's after a few days (just cuz I had them lying around) and changed the tone knob to have a coil split switch. Boom! Nothing beats that guitar - what you get for the price makes no sense.... 2 weeks ago I decided to give it to a friend. He is super happy with it :)

[@shawndouglass2939]

I just ordered this guitar a week ago, thanks for the review, nice to hear it played, good job especially with the tuner

[@ToroKchannel]

Thanks Shawn :) Hope you enjoy yours !

[@Ilionej]

I was really surprised when I found it. I go for looks VS perks first, then filter out my price range and then I go looking for sound examples or reviews. And really, this one JUMPED at me on the Thomann site before I even filtered! I couldn't believe the either price but you totally convinced me! I have an account there, but I'll sure use your link for my purchase! Thanks a lot for that thorough review!

[@ToroKchannel]

Thanls for your comment and your help !

[@Vor_Tex_Sun]

I'm getting this guitar deliverd in the next couple of days and will use it as a modding learning guitar. Basically I'll strip it and upgrade it - step by step

[@ToroKchannel]

It's a good basis to work on. If you wanna upgrade the FR, the Schaller lockmeister would fit in.

[@Vor_Tex_Sun]

Thanks for the tip

[@Leo_ofRedKeep]

I keep seeing people questioning the quality of cheaper things but almost no one ever mentions specific problems with licensed Floyd Roses. If a problem is not described it usually exists in the fantasy of those who suspect it. I know the Floyd people have said they "weren't satisfied with the quality of the licensed products", which is what anyone with something to sell would say: "buy mine, it's better". The one thing I heard was wear issues on the swinging edge, making the return to pitch inaccurate. This happens with time and use if the metal is not hard enough and I wonder if the edge can be sharpened anew. I'm sure it can.

[@ToroKchannel]

Well yes the edge could be sharpened again, I agree with you. If this happens to me, I'll see what I can do myself before sending it back to Thomann cos' I'm sure they would just replace it with a brave new one.

[@Leo_ofRedKeep]

@@ToroKchannel Let's see how much use it will need before you feel something has to be done. I understand professionals who make heavy use of the thing on a daily basis will wear them out faster. I'm sure any of these things would last me a lifetime.

[@andrealucaredolfi3936]

We have ordered the S-620 some days ago...in order to use this for some trials and modifications..but from your video seems that we will not need too many modifications...the Floyd seems the same mounted on the fusion II that is perfect (is really a great guitar)...In my opinion also this S-620 with 2 quality pickups can be really a great guitar 😉👍

[@ToroKchannel]

It's an amazing guitar for the price. I don't think the floyd rose on this one is the same as on the fusion II. If I remeber well, the fusion II comes with a FR series 1000. This S-620 comes with a FR special rebranded by Harley Benton.

[@andrealucaredolfi3936]

@@ToroKchannel The new guitar will arrive tomorrow. I will do the comparison. Probably you are right about the Floyd😉Thanks a lot for the review👍🙏

[@roxytime8430]

I bought it, I started playing solos and many hours a day in two months there was nothing left, everything was broken, it was wood for the fireplace. the screws broke, the keyboard faded, the floyd Rose completely fake, I hung it, I saw it and I laughed, I went to the trash can outside the house, I opened it, I threw it inside and the story is over...

[@ImpOfSacs]

Best Review. Think to Buy one of this but in Red 😁

[@ToroKchannel]

thanks ! Sure you will love this axe

[@dav_e98]

Hey nice playing. How is it with the tune stability after using the tremolo and dive bombs? 🤔 cz im about to take one and change the adapters with seymour duncan active.

[@ToroKchannel]

Thanks ! I have made a review video + a 3 years after video showing the stability of this FR. It will accept tremolo effects easily, but if you go mad with dive bombs, at some point, it will run out of tune. If you're into some Satriani / Kerry King mood, you will have to change the FR. I think it will sound very good with some Seymour Duncan Blackout, but any guitar would sound good with those pickups :)

[@dav_e98]

@@ToroKchannel im into Sepultura 😀

[@asdfgsf9660]

Hi I am a beginner looking to buy my first electric (I am comfortable with an Acoustic guitar). I would mainly play rock and metal (RHCP, A7X, Metallica, Buckethead, etc.) I was initially considering the Ibanez GRGA120 but have come across this guitar. I will rarely use the tremolo but I would like to have 24 frets. Can anyone tell me which one I should go for? I would like the guitar to be reliable with good pickups and tuning it should not be too problematic. Thank you!

[@ToroKchannel]

This one is good but a floating bridge for a first electric is not something I would advise buying. It makes everything a bit more complicated when it comes to set the guitar in tune and if you wanna go for drop tuning - and I guess you will - you will spend 15 minutes on it. I think you should take a look at Schecter Omen / Omen Extreme. Excellent guitars, very good pickups, 24 frets, and can easily be found on the used market.

[@nilssimmert6420]

Great intro, very well played

[@ToroKchannel]

Thanks ! :D

[@louiscarrollmusic-lcm5331]

Hey dude! Great review! I’ve been jamming Metallica and Slayer for two years now and was wondering whether you’d say the tuning stability is good. I need an upgrade from my Squier Fender and the tuning on that sucks ass. BTW, sorry fire my English, I’m Australian. 😉 😂

[@ToroKchannel]

Thanks man ! Well this axe stays in tune as long as you don't make an extreme use of the FR. If you try and play King's leads, I'm afraid it won't stay in tune perfectly well. Maybe you should take a look at the Fusion Pro series, they come with a FR series 1000 that will accept crazy thrash leads. \m/

[@The_Master_Brain]

Ok changing Strings is more complicated, but you not have to tune it so often like a normal Guitar and you have more possibilities in Sound Dynamic.

[@ToroKchannel]

Depends upon how good your FR is though. I love FR guitars but I also understand why some people don’t like it.

[@All_Said]

Is the neck plate comfortable while you play on high frets? (Sry for bad english, i'm from Russia)

[@ToroKchannel]

Don't worry for your english, I'm french :) There's no problem for accessing the highest frets. The joint between neck and body is at the 19th fret, you can play on the 24th fret on all the strings with no problem !

[@All_Said]

@@ToroKchannel thx for the answering, i just have not much experience with strats. AndI i want to try floyd rose guitar after epiphone les paul

[@ToroKchannel]

@@All_Said you're welcome :) Well this one is really a good choice, you won't find better unless you spend 3 times the price it costs.

[@Leo_ofRedKeep]

German Thomann says the fingerboard is roseacer and that's what it looks like on the pictures. 22mm is nice, it's your standard Fender C but you did not measure it at the 22nd fret ;-)

[@ToroKchannel]

Oops ! I said 22nd fret... Well, of course, I was meaning 12th fret ;)

[@Kareggan]

Would you say that this guitar is mod friendly? Like, let's change the pickups, a better brand FR aswell as tuners and electronics?

[@ToroKchannel]

I think it's a good basis for small mods. If you're into upgrading everything, better go for a LTD series 100-200 or a Schecter Omen that you can easily find on the used market.

[@MehdiS-music]

I dont know if you took one of the pickups out and checked if they are branded...? They might be Belcat, they are the stock pickup manufacturer for Jackson JS and X series, they are dirt cheap and good.

[@ToroKchannel]

I took a look at it and saw no indication of brand or nothing.

[@rifra973]

Hello , many thanks for your big review .. Im undecided whether to buy this guitar or Ibanez GRX70 that's is very similar .. considering that difference in price is about 40 euros and will become less because Thoman takes 20 euros to ship to Italy .. so for 20 euros difference could be better buy a better known Ibanez or you will also prefer the Herley Benton ?

[@ToroKchannel]

Hi Francesco, happy that you appreciate my review ;) It's not easy for me to compare this Harley Benton with the Ibanez GRX70 you mention cos' I have never played the Ibanez. But there are 2 things I can tell you and hopefully it's gonna help you. 1 : Harley Bentons are made by Thomann so their prices are free from distributor mergin. It means that a 138€ from Harley Benton could be compared with a 276€ from another brand. 2 : I have a LTD MH-100 at home, I've bought it for 299€ some two years ago, and int termes of quality and playability, this Harley Benton is as good as the LTD. The pickups on the Harley Benton are much better than on the LTD. Now, if you look for a very thin neck, keep in mind that on the Harley Benton the neck is 22.5 mm at 12th fret. I guess the neck on the Ibanez will be thinner. Hope this will help you :)

[@cezmignon8346]

Bonjour, (je me permet de vous écrire en francais, ayant apercu que vous l'étiez) je souhaiterai acheter cette guitare mais un point me fait hésiter, est ce que la tenue d'accord apres utilisation du floyd reste t elle bonne ?

[@ToroKchannel]

Bonjour, le floyd ne désaccorde pas la guitare sauf à user et abuser des dive bombs. Auquel cas le désaccordage n’est pas très prononcé, mais il existe. Tout dépend donc de l’usage que vous comptez en faire. Pour une utilisation un peu extrême, mieux vaut partir sur un floyd rose original série 1000 ou 1500.

[@jatzrios6073]

Hello one question,Is the input Jack or Jack 3.5? Thanks!

[@ToroKchannel]

It's a classic 6.3 jack input, I don't know any guitar that comes with a 3.5 jack.

[@Santiago-mv1kv]

Would you say this is a good first guitar with a Floyd rose? I have never played a Floyd rose and want to and I want to start getting into it.

[@ToroKchannel]

yes it is a good choice for a first FR guitar.

[@GuilhermeSantos2003]

Hi, what is the thickness of the neck and whats the difference between that and fretboard radius?

[@ToroKchannel]

Hi Guilherme. The neck is a bit thick, 23mm on the nut 25 at the 1éth fret but it plays nice ans smooth. The radius describes how flat or rounded the fretboard is. On this one I think the radius is a classic 350mm. You'll find a complete explanation about the radius here : www.fender.com/articles/tech-talk/what-is-fingerboard-radius

[@GuilhermeSantos2003]

@@ToroKchannel merci!!!

[@patrickshannon6135]

I've heard people say Floyd Rose special are a cheaper quality Floyd Rose. I've had both what is the real difference? because I can't tell anything different.

[@ToroKchannel]

Well Patrick I have guitars with FR special, guitars with FR 1000 and in terms of playability, I can't tell the difference either ! The metal that's used for making FR special is supposed to be less good than on FR 1000, so as years go by, the FR special might have issues.

[@reloaded1302]

Is the Floyd rose hard to tune and does it stay in tune well?

[@ToroKchannel]

Not hard to tune and for the stability well I’ve shown it in the video.

[@reloaded1302]

I was thinking about ordering so I was just wondering

[@maxbt625]

super vidéo, j'avoue que j'hésite à l'acheter à cause de ses petits defaut de qualités, est-ce que malgrés ça elle tiens bien dans le temps ? et au passage j'aimerai bien savoir ce que tu joue au debut de la vidéo.

[@ToroKchannel]

Merci :) Ca ne fait pas si longtemps que je l'ai, mais jusqu'ici elle fonctionne très bien. Même le toggle au mouvement parasite continue de faire son boulot. Pour le prix, franchement, il me semble impensable de trouver mieux même en occasion. Et ce que je joue au début est juste une compo à moi, faite pour l'occasion :)

[@GuilhermeSantos2003]

Hello, nice video! Which guitar would you choose to play mostly heavy metal? Jackson JS11/12 This one Ibanez GRX70 any other guitar that I have not seen. Merci pour la response!!

[@ToroKchannel]

Thanks for your appreciation :) In order to answer your question with as much accuracy as possible, can you quote me your fav bands, the ones you would like to sound like ?

[@GuilhermeSantos2003]

@@ToroKchannel I like Iron Maiden, Metallica, Black Sabbath among others such as Megadeth and Pantera... I quite like heavy/thrash metal

[@ToroKchannel]

@@GuilhermeSantos2003 ok, well these are great references :) I would erase the Jackson from the list. Havong tried one, I was really not convinced at all, the pickups don't sound very good, the guitar feels fragile and the hardware is poor quality. This HB S620 is pretty damn good for the price, and if you have nothing against FR, it will let you play all those bands you enjoy. Can't talk about the Ibanez, haven't tried it so far. You could also consider going for a Schecter C-6 plus or a Schecter Omen. They are more expensive, but the Schecter Diamond pickups are really damn good ! The Omen are easy to find on the used market for less than 300 bucks. Hope it helps :)

[@GuilhermeSantos2003]

@@ToroKchannel I have never played on an electric guitar, so I dont know the difference between Floyd Rose bridge and the others... But I am convinced that the HB should be the best option

[@GuilhermeSantos2003]

@@ToroKchannel thanks for the advice!

[@deHelli]

Do you tune your guitar to 432 hz?

[@ToroKchannel]

On this video, yes, that's what I did :)

[@leon.g280]

Is this guitar also good for tapping

[@ToroKchannel]

Yes, totally ok for tapping.

[@leon.g280]

@@ToroKchannel Thank you for the fast answer, I think this is going to be my first guitar

[@ToroKchannel]

Let's leon good choice ! If you order it, please use my partner link :)

[@Tonyguitar-ibiza]

Tocas la guitarra y haces los solos como kirk hammet

[@ToroKchannel]

thanks :)

[@kingbassk83]

Great review

[@ToroKchannel]

Thanks :)

[@19dines77]

Does it have Jumbo Frets?

[@ToroKchannel]

Thomann does not mention the thickness of the frets but to me, they look like they're jumbo. Not Extra jumbo, though.

[@19dines77]

@@ToroKchannel thanks dude

[@19dines77]

@@ToroKchannel How about the Action, Is it possible to adjust it to super low Action ?

[@19dines77]

@@ToroKchannel I'm about to buy one, using your link.

[@ToroKchannel]

@@19dines77 the action on mine was pretty low out of the box (2mm on low E and 1.6mm on high E at 12th fret). Didn't try to get it any lower, but I guess I could gain 0.1 or 0.2 mm.

[@danielchicheportiche9287]

its just me or this guitar is terribly out of tune?(especially in higher frets)

[@ToroKchannel]

My tune is based on A = 432 Hz. Considering this basis, guitar is in tune and intonation is ok on every string.

[@danielchicheportiche9287]

@@ToroKchannel ohh ok! thanks it really changed my mind!

432 Hz ??

[@ToroKchannel]

C'est la fréquence hertzienne de mon La de référence sur cette vidéo. De nos jours, et depuis 1955, l'industrie musicale utilise le La 440, c'est à dire une fréquence de 440 Hertz. Mais avant cela, un compositeur comme Verdi utilisait le La 432. Perso j'aime bien, mais depuis, je suis revenu au La 440 puisque 99.99% des gens l'utilisent, donc pour une démo ou une review, c'est mieux si les spectateurs peuvent s'identifier à ce qu'ils entendent :)

[@lionelborni1896]

En français ça aurait été bien. Lol

[@ToroKchannel]

Je suis certain que des youtubers francophones se sont intéressés à cette guitare :). Pour ma part, faire ma chaîne en anglais me permet de pratique une langue que j’adore et que je n’ai pas l’occasion de parler aussi souvent que je le voudrais, donc désolé mais je resterai anglophone ;)

[@ernieball9516]

The channel……??

[@ToroKchannel]

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