Harley-Davidson V Rod vs Harley-Davidson Breakout 114...who is King of the rake?

[@zf4hp24]

Almost every reviewer ride of the V-Rod on YT starts off with a "Wow!", quickly followed by "This blew up my preconceived ideas about the V-Rod." Still one of HD's great bikes and now that they're finally getting "discovered", more popular than ever.

[@jimibones178]

Wait till people finally get around to trying out this new 150hp pan america

[@calbertomontero]

I love the breakout, but my dream bike is the VROD Muscle and that’s the one I got, and I am so happy, and the good thing are really originals, plus I am a Porsche fan so it’s perfect combination for me, great reviews guys!

[@taffelost6221]

Bought a VROD Muscle this week. I'm in love.

[@hueydevotedUH1]

Bought a '16 Night Rod Special under 100 miles this week. Couldn't be happier.

[@akaredcrossbow]

I had a 2004 V-Rod that I ended up putting detachable saddle bags on, more comfortable seats, detachable sissy bar, engine guard, Bub pipes and a Vance&Hines FuelPak tuner. Sounded like a traditional HD. Got the best of both worlds, touring and racing. My wife and I used to ride the V-Rod from Massachusetts to Naples Florida and back, very comfortable. most reliable HD motorcycle made! Only issue was the 2004 had a small capacity fuel tank, and we had some close calls almost running out of fuel. 110 miles on it when I purchased in 2008. Traded it in 2010 with 18,000 miles on it. Best bike I have ever owned.

[@parkersgarage4216]

The breakout is the vrod replacement. I prefer the vrod

[@spreadlovenotlies77]

I'm not a mechanic and I knew very little about motorcycles when I bought my vrod but soon as I began riding I instantly understood that the bike only wanted to operate at high revs , basically it ran better the more gas that I gave it lol I quickly understood horsepower I understand even more when I got my street glide ( they are NOT the same) lol

[@hamishwelsh4195]

For me you can't beat the original V-Rod. I have the 2003 100th Anniversary and I love it - the 180 rear tire makes it handle really well and is quite happy doing a ton over the mountain in the Isle of Man where I've taken it 3 times and keeps ok with my mate on their sports bikes. For a 19 year old bike it's a beast!!! 🙂

[@ThePreachaMane]

Hey what’s the size of the engine? I’m thinking of getting one!

[@barryklinedinst6233]

​@@ThePreachaMane1130 cc. Awesome bike. Had one and sold it. It was a big mistake parting with it

[@fastdude2002]

I have a 2006 V-ROD I bought new, love it!

[@Bricklinsv1970]

My Dad had a VRod and he had no problem at all keeping up with my Honda V65 Magna. Really reliable great bike!

[@infamouskingj]

I have a 2007 VRSC"X" and a 2003 Dyna Lowrider and love them both for different reasons! Vrod is wicked fast!! With the exhaust, filter and racetune it puts down about 120hp and 83ftlbs torque!

[@Starlesslemon]

The Vrod. The Sportster S for adult sized people.

[@davidburke4345]

How about the v-rod engine in break-out frame

[@JL-wf2wp]

I would love it in a street bob frame. Dyna, not the new softail

[@itchegerton8004]

Good review. Funny, 3 years ago I bought a used V-Rod VRSCAW and I have been blown away after a lifetime of V-Twins.

[@TheTyrone1981]

I had a v rod muscle for 2 years. I rode a break out for a while. No comparison. The v rod is much quicker and I felt more agile. The breakout is nice but can’t compare to the v rod in my opinion

[@Mike61259]

Breakout is a cruiser' VRod is sport bike.

[@TheTyrone1981]

Lol they’re both muscle cruisers but the v rod is just a different beast. I have 3 bikes 2 of which are sports bikes and the v rod isn’t in those categories. But it’s definitely an awesome bike. I miss my old one

[@mociczyczki]

@@Mike61259vrod is not sport bike 🫣 not from geometry centree mass hight tire soze and profile and footpegs and exhaust hight and weight distribution point of view 😉👌🏻 its fast on straight relativelly well faster at least than breakout 114 thanks topend power advantage (but elasticity to 5 k rom have worse than breakout 114 👍🏻) or me sv 650 s but in cornerrs its not ven close to sportsbike motorrad do top test ot clock around 46 m diamter circle 13,3 sec with speed way under 50 km/h 43 km/h fro. what i. remeber with footpg in fire all over the place vs sportsbike like cbr 600 or other clock on road tire lil over 10 sec with speed 55 some close to 60 km/h on track in corner sport bike on the same tire overtske you in midlle of corner like ypu would stand in place 🤭👍🏻

[@bobbysweeney5377]

I have a yellow vrscse2. I almost purchased a breakout until I saw this and test drove it. It took less than 30 seconds and it pushed everything else out. I do just wish I had mid controls.

[@danielbarriere3143]

Me too, bought a VROD Muscle 2 month ago and incredible fun machine, sold my softail....

[@robbyterrill5707]

Love my muscle..Ive had 3..Harley totally dropped the ball stopping production of the Vrod...

[@joogullae3456]

Can you tell me what "rake" is please?

[@bmack1000]

They should bring the vrod back. One of the best bikes they’ve ever made

[@robbyterrill5707]

@@joogullae3456 rake is how far out ur front forks are on ur bike..choppers usually have alot of rake..

[@joogullae3456]

@@robbyterrill5707 thank you for the answer bro.

[@robbyterrill5707]

@@markwinchester3005 I agree totally. I just got burned out in Vrods having owned 3...I bought a fatbob and love it so far..

[@wooblebloc]

Tell you guys ain’t from Australia. They are the only two bikes people rave on about in Sydney area. Got the lebos on there vrod that they spent $50k on. And all the others who can’t buy new vrod so they buy breakouts and spend the big bucks on them.

[@pingchow4640]

One hundred per cent. Leb sleds as they are affectionately called.

[@johnnoble1790]

vrods are a favourite here in New Zealand, common as on our roads, so are all the other HD's.

[@evil_musclemuscled3814]

Ok this is a video that had to be made . I love both of these bikes , now I wanna talk about what's funky . First ditch that little Honda Shadow looking tank and add a fat tank , now the bikes is perfect . I really like the 114 air breather that on the bike . I love the breakout , it's an all style bike that can be takin to the distance and not a main Street fashion yuppy ride . The breakout isn't fast but with that 114 I'm sure it's oh ya and go for a stage 4 and I'd think it'll get it , it's a beauty . That's one slow bike that I'd feel damn proud of around crotch rockets or what ever , that's how much I dig the bike . My 2016 has a heavy breather screaming eagle and I love it . It also has a big radius exhaust and that's it along with a swing arm bag , I love it and it's only a 103 and I love it . It's a perfect fucking Harley that's all style and I can ride the distance on it . That fat wide low stance is greatness along with that fat 5 gallon tank . Ok now the vrod........ A bike I've loved for the longest time , I'm jealous of that superb machine and Harley can choke for killing that machine . What's funky now , ditch the handle bars and add drag bars , the air filter cover on that muscle is a great one bit it'll need an after market cover made in Russia . Now relocate the speedo to the aftermarket air box cover after them two things are redone now we're dealing with perfection . I love the bike and that rear fender goes with that fat tire . That fuckin vrod is tight and whip . I've only been up to two up close and it's a different kind of bike . Just cause its built for performance and looks doesn't mean it needs to die . This bike up close is all business just from looking at it . I love everything else about it , the exhaust coming out on both sides is marvelous. Fat wide and low but not too low is perfect on a Harley .

[@seanlowman6785]

I've had my nightrod for a month now and cant stop smiling. I have a 03 Heritage softail as well. Some days are lazy and slow and others are ....well. FASt.

[@joogullae3456]

Can you tell me what "rake" is please?

[@iamthebroker]

@@joogullae3456 angle of the front fork set up.the bigger the rake the further away the front wheel is.

[@joogullae3456]

@@iamthebroker Thank you

[@michaelhoward4402]

It still amazes me how the traditional harley riders still try and convince themselves and others that the Breakout Milwaukee 8 114 even the 117 cvo is nearly or as fast as the Vrod 1250, yet every time when it comes to real road performance the Vrod not just walks away, but sprints away from the breakout no matter what, great video exposing the massive power difference, Vrod still on top 😂 💪🏽👍🏼

[@ourtime-downhere6931]

Best bike harley ever made. not the prettiest but mechanically the absolute best, brilliant machine

[@arlanwade3268]

My experience with the V-ROD Muscle was quite opposite of this review: I had a punched-oit 03 Yamaha FZ1 which made my next bike (2010 Muscle) quite a step down in power, yet the grunt of a V-Twin more satisfying. It was seeing that V-Rod in person that gave me major goosebumps! The most beautiful machine I've ever seen! So much so I baught a 2nd one (2017 VRM) and called them my Evil Twins (both gloss black of course). I sold the Yamaha; my V-Rods killed my desire to ride it.

[@Iswhatitisssss]

I’ve got a 17 NRS and like you so it’s not fast but absolute fun. It’s a love hate relationship for me. All though I say I’m going to sell it, deep down I know I won’t

[@arlanwade3268]

My 2017 V-ROD MUSCLE is fast enough to give me goosebumps when I open up into the freeway or pass a hairy Old-school Hells Angel wanabe; but not Big-Wave adrenaline addiction for speed which would SURELY kill me given enough time with a F%&$#%& VMAX, H2 or a Hayabusa. I like to ride, but I also want to live a LONG life. Maybe I should've bought a Corvette instead of this HD masterpiece, but WTH: I LOVE my V-ROD! @Iswhatitisssss

[@samscharp3367]

I bought my Vrod Muscle 2 years ago and love it. I don't think I will ever get rid of it. My friends were trying to give me shit saying it's not "a real Harley." Then we go out riding and they can't keep up with me and they have to stop for gas every half hour.

[@gtafarmer6615]

I have two mates with nightrod specials. They are far more thirsty than all our twin cams evos and m8s

[@rishkum536]

idk about the gas part VRod Chugs more than any other motorcycles I know

[@combojohn7953]

I think the most sexiest cruiser is the vrod!

[@bananomansteven6962]

Got a 2014 vrod for my first bike vary pleased with my choice. User friendly but plenty of bike to grow into.

[@dragan4658]

Ive ridden both and the V Rod has more power. Both are nice bikes so its a matter of choice. My preference is the V Rod if I ever decide to sell my Night Train!

[@mikedaniels9331]

Good review on both bikes, but try the 2024 Harley Davidson breakout you see and feel the difference. Keep up the good work.👍

[@Chrisloesel74]

Where did you hear the revolution was a Porsche motor? My understanding was it was the Harley vr1000 motor refined and retuned for street use with Porsche consulting. Can I get your source?

[@rattlenutzgaming7790]

You're right it is.

[@roadkingtales]

There’s a video on KZbin that is a documentary of how the v-rod came to be. They say in there that yes it was originally based on the VR1000, but they couldn’t get it to work the way they wanted. So teamed up with Porsche engineers and designed the Revolution motor from scratch. The video is about 50 minutes long but it’s very informative.

[@iamthebroker]

@@roadkingtales spot on. That’s exactly what happened. The engine is a ground up collaboration between Harley and Porsche however the Harley engineers went to Germany and based themselves in Porsches R&D headquarters for over a year.

[@Dodger2879]

Porsche designed, Harley built. Harley did not like the way "it looked"...🙄....so they redesigned the layout to appeal more, to the current Harley owners. It has little ground clearance. I shaved so much off of mine running canyons in CA. My only dislike was the tiny gas tank and abysmal fuel consumption. There is endless info online on how this bike was developed. Google is your friend.

[@jackdaniel.2546]

My little wife rides an 03’ Vrod. Perfect size for someone 5’3” 120 pounds. Snappy little bike.

[@777RocketS]

I have the 08 night rod special and it's fast

[@jackdaniel.2546]

@@777RocketS I’m 6”1 and 210 lbs. I felt like I was riding a really fast mini bike.

[@777RocketS]

@@jackdaniel.2546 I'm 6ft flat at 220. I honestly feel stretched out on mine. But I love it, it's like a muscle car for bikes

[@jackdaniel.2546]

@@777RocketS I ride an old Honda Valkyrie. This old fart needs the comfort. It’s like driving a couch down the road.

[@777RocketS]

@@jackdaniel.2546 I completely understand. I'm looking into baggers myself

[@LightningVRSCR]

I ride a 07 VRSCR Street Rod, awesome engine and wicked handling with a 40 degree lean angle. I'll never part with it best Harley ever built IMO..

[@infamouskingj]

I own and ride an 07 VRSC"X" and man do i love the power of that beast!! Mine puts down around 120hp to the tire and 83lbft

[@LightningVRSCR]

@@infamouskingj I live in New Zealand and it's all corners over here, perfect country for the VRSCR. I also own a couple of Buells (X1 Lightning '100 cube S&S' and a Cyclone M2) the're awsome cornering beasts as well..

[@ytsur549]

Love my 03, 100 year anniversary addition

[@keystonedaytrip238]

Edition LoL 😂

[@screamingr1366]

I looked hard at both the Breakout and the 2016 Night Rod Special and went with the NRS. I beg to differ with your comment about it not being a god looking bike. The NRS is ridiculously fast for a HD and turns heads everywhere it goes. Lately it’s gotten more attention than most of the cats at the car shows I’ve been to. I can drag pegs on the canyons and above 4500rpms it pulls hard! You hit that 8000rpms and start floating gears it’s even faster! That 240 on the rear handled much better than I thought it would. A big selling point was the dual rotors on the front end. Huge points for me. Comes with 125hp and 83lbs of torque.

[@riehle.j8561]

I've got a '17 Muscle exactly like this, except with the mini passenger back rest. Previous was an '06 vrsc. Hadn't ridden since '07 (10 yrs.) Went to the HD dealer, bought/got on it & rode for an hr through the hills & highways, to work. Not gonna lie, I was nothing like the standard vrsc. It leaned nothing like the thin-tired bike. First time on an offramp, its didn't want to stay down, through the curve, even when applying more accelerator & leaning-harder.. Acceleration was hyper. There is no 'mellow, then power band. It's a rocket freight train, 100% of the rpms. The first drive, after such a hiatus, was stressful. Never felt that on a bike, even on my VFRs & BMW K1. I drive Michigan B-Trains at 147k GVWR metal coils, Tankers, and doubles-freight; they've never stressed me in a Pt. A->B drive. I've kept it, because it is fun. Took a couple of rides to 'understand' it. It has a personality that must be adapted-to, in order to zoom-around like one does on a typical bike, but it can do all of this things, like you experience on a standard bike. It's not jerky at the low-end, so you can slow to a stop, and not have to put your left foot down, right-away. This one doesn't lay-rubber like a typ vrsc. The rear wheel has much more grip, on a straight-pull. The regular vrsc will lay-down rubber for well-over 100 yards, if you drop the clutch & keep the throttle-pulled. I have smoked the tires/drifted it from a dead-stop, though. Note: the headlight is weak; it can't be ridden on dirt/country/gravel, or even rain-storm, road conditions. I drifted through a left turn at an intersection in a storm that was extreme pucker-factor. Fortunately, I've taken the riding/skid-pad courses for bikes & trucks. Regular rear-wheel vrod's don't have this problem.

[@stephencartwright5046]

And now HD may be killing off the Breakout too..... Love the Vrod.

[@kkapalle]

well riding old style HD is like riding a donkey when you like to ride a Donkey then take that!!

[@justinpino8115]

Klaus, calm down ww2 was a long time ago

[@r.i.p2464]

I hope they wont. Its the continuation of the raked out softail since the deuce and rocker, somethings bound to succeed it with a different name but with the same formula like the two bikes that came before it.

[@richardbarr6814]

I had the 2015 NIGHTROD wish like hell l still had it. It was stock except for black slipons. And with that being said it looked beautiful and sounded every bit as Harley as it's true heritage. Matter of fact anyone who heard it would know it's a Harley even if it wasn't obvious by it's looks. Riding profile was very comfortable for me at six foot 32 inch inseam. It's Harley perfection with Porsche finess. A true must have if your not buying bagger Only thing compromised was passenger seat , but if you bought it knowing thatwhod care

[@savarirajanjugoroy658]

Bro, you had concluded that V rod is more fun to ride, I am a veteran hard core Harley Davidson rider, I ride a sportster 883 in India, the 1st thing is that the V rod was introduced as the most powerful motorcycle ever built in the USA in year 2000 I think, source pl see the national geographic channel prog, the V rod was built using Porsche engine, it has many records, it is one of my favorites, but the break out too is one of my favorites, although the 2017 CVO breakout is better than the present ones in terms of bad ass looks, the present softails have good riding qualities, but Harleys are sought only for the bad ass looks and the vibrations which we have only in sportsers today. Anyway we'll done comparison video falcon fury Harley davidson.thunbs up guys.

[@dragan4658]

Why di leople meep saying the motor is Porcbe desig ed, its false. Porche designed the cooling only. The motor is based on the Harley racing motor used in the Harley VR1000.

[@brianstewart2401]

Yep, PORSCHE did not build/design the Revo motor... misconception. Porsche has worked with the HDMC on many different projects.

[@cammedmotorsports7629]

Yes vrods are 👍, mine is bored out and built by Vreelands Harley to 1434cc and it is really fast. It has the full drag racing set up minus wheelie bars, pushing around 165 horsepower and I will never buy any other Harley out there besides vrods

[@infamouskingj]

If you dont mind me asking, how $much$ is the big engine for the vrod? I have a 1250 and am ither gonna supercharge it or go bigbore for more power. Thanks

[@cammedmotorsports7629]

It cost around $6500 US funds I mention it since I’m Canadian and that was over 3 years ago and I already had a blown engine built to same spec before that with low miles so about 30% of internal parts got reused minus the block, so this cost is everything with machining a block from 02 Vrod . This cost was purchase and build. One thing I highly recommend not doing this unless you can get it tuned by the engine builder or good vrod tuner since I live in Windsor Ontario Canada nothing but some f###ng amateurs for modified vrod tuning.

[@joogullae3456]

Can you tell me what "rake" is please?

[@infamouskingj]

@@joogullae3456 its the degree at which the front end (front wheel and forks) extends out from frame

[@joogullae3456]

@@infamouskingjthank you broski

[@FuelledByMuffins]

Love the Vrods. Are the older model Vrods as reliable?

[@robinstromberg6449]

If you are looking to drastically change your V-Rod handling for the better, get a Budman handle bar riser. I have changed my 2010 Muscle to a Road-Rod and had to change to the risers for clearance, but what a great surprise!!!

[@charlieryan1736]

I think the VRod Muscle is gorgeous and is extremely reliable 🇺🇸👍🏻

[@taffelost6221]

Me too. I don't understand how they can confess it's not a looker. I think it's absolutely beautiful.

[@dontworrybehappy8080]

Breakout for me.

[@ynotliveitup8868]

Vrod best harley engine. REVOLUTION

[@gabehills2489]

I have no complaints about the Revolution or Evolution engines I've had.

[@hangingwithbigjohn8401]

Good review guys thanks! Currently looking at one these two to purchase! Very informative!👍🏼

[@tonibeitlich9948]

Thank you Guys, very nice Video 👍

[@elithegreat6463]

You should have got your hands on an FXDR and ride with the V-Rod

[@FalconsFuryHarleyDavidson]

Hopefully with the factories back open now we should be getting some in.

[@m118lr]

Well done. GIVING ME THE BUG man..and I can’t afford to have THE BUG right now!

[@MP-ty3id]

That just took forever to get through that hole review. That’s like a TV show in it itself holy crap. But at the end, they finally got to the point ..

[@frankfarrester9178]

I think its time for you to do a comparison ride with the new 2023 or 2024 breakout 117 and better ergonomics

[@ianbolah5873]

I enjoyed my night rod. Only thing, I stopped at every gas station. 3 gallon tank under the seat. 60 miles on a full tank. It’s a bar hopper.

[@gabehills2489]

My Night Rod Special gets 36 more, making it near 200 miles on 5 gallons of fuel. What did you do wrong?

[@ianbolah5873]

@@gabehills2489 too many stop lights in Atlanta 😊

[@lancelotvt]

I currently own a 2006 V-Rod with the narrower 180 rear tire. I have also ridden a V-Rod muscle with the 240 width rear tire and a Breakout which also has a 240 rear tire. The Breakout was a 2014 model with the 103 ci motor. While I liked the torque output of the 103 in the Breakout and didn't really miss the high RPM rush of the V-Rod, the Breakout required a considerable amount of effort on the bars to go through turns. Both my V-Rod and the V-Rod Muscle handle virtually the same despite the Muscles 240 rear tire.

[@iamthebroker]

Thanks Lance as I’ve often contemplated the 180 tyre vs the 240. I actually love the original 1130 VRod (vrsca) but don’t like the look of the 180 over the 240- who doesn’t like the fatter tyres!! But I always justified my preference (to stick with the earlier model) on the basis the 240 made it tougher to navigate twisties. Your experience is that this is not the case (I haven’t ridden a 240 rear yet).

[@DOX_888]

Love my 2015 vrod muscle 💪🏾

[@frankhernandez1995]

Great discussion

[@richardbarr6814]

I will also add l eas looking at a VROD MUSCLE AND NIGHTROD. WHEN I SAW THE NIGHTROD. AND HEARD IT FIRE. UP I WAS SOLD ON THE SPOT. IT HAD BLACK SLIP ONS LOOKED GREAT BETTER THAN SYOCK AND HAD THE. HARLEY SOUND PEOPLE LOVE AND WANT. THE SLIP ONS WERE A GREAT CUSTOM REPLACEMENT FROM FACTORY PART AND IS THE ONLY MODIFICATION ID MADE IN THE FIRST PLACE.

[@abdullahorefan5269]

My first Harley ever was Sportster on the License test's day never liked it or any HD, until my brother got his V-rod slowly but surely loving the Harley and its community so dised to get one and unfortunately they don't make the V-rod any more so my brother and his friends advised me to try the breakout which was awesome way compilable and stable on rode than the VR but rev limit to 4 or 6 RPM (not sure it was election ODO) considering coming from the sportbike that was the downfall for me but all in all fantastic bike both of them

[@wellingtono.2631]

Both are very nice 👌 👍 👏

[@nashwoad6206]

2017 Cvo prostreet breakout is king in my opinion

[@nathanharshbarger9222]

Id take the faster more reliable Vrod for quarter of the price anyday!

[@busterhyman833]

Hello all. My 2007 V Rod has given me a lot of pleasure, along with making many different bikers feel real bad when I dust them. I drive this bike as if I am on top of a cafe' bike. It does it all for me. If you put your weight forward, lay your chest on the airbox in a turn using a little front brake with the throttle, you will get some wonderful results. Maybe that's why I only got 3300 miles out of both tires !

[@dontworrybehappy8080]

First off, you don't drive it you ride it. Sorry for splitting hairs brother. I took s**t for articulating that incorrectly and so can you ; ) I have my Breakout. Never RIDEN a V-Rod. But I think I'll stick with mine since the woman love it.

[@MrPAULONEAL]

That's not just a V rod, it's a V rod muscle...

[@akaredcrossbow]

V-ROD the best and most reliable Harley Davidson ever made! 🗣Harley Davidson, bring it back! Use better marketing, social media, not tv. Don’t fail again on the success of the V-ROD!

[@lowlyfe2497]

I personally think the Breakout looks more like a replacement of the Night Train personally but that's just me.

[@AlanRoehrich9651]

The Breakout IS the final iteration of the Night Train. I would not call it a "replacement" though. I own a 2007 Night Train, and a 2016 CVO Pro Street Breakout. The character changed between the Night Train and the Breakout. It's a different riding style. In all honesty, Harley was stupid to kill the Night Train. It has great potential and flexibility.

[@MrPAULONEAL]

The V rod has a lower center of gravity.

[@scottkinderdine3317]

V-Rod vs. the Breakout 117?

[@Philo-Rides]

2 popular bikes in New Zealand

[@fmpabxx7834]

I own a Muscle. The acceleration is unparallel. Nothing will ever beat it,period. Not even the sportster s. But I think imma buy a 107 Breakout as well. The look sells me. I dont need it to be fast and agile. If I want that,I'll hop on the vrod. I want the breakout for when I want to cruise with style.

[@Theologic]

Nothing that Harley makes will beat it* Old Vmax Gen 1 smokes a Vrod all day, Gen 2 makes it look slow

[@mociczyczki]

sportster s this new 1250 should beat muscle vrod 👌🏻 it makes similar power but is 150-160 pounds lighter….

[@fmpabxx7834]

@Theologic Triumph Rocket 3 has a 0 to 60 thats 0.5 seconds faster than vrod also.

[@fmpabxx7834]

@mociczyczki there's no way. After hearing that, I test rode the Sportster S. Lets jusy say not from what I can tell on the test ride. But I'll do another test ride.

[@mociczyczki]

@@fmpabxx7834 ok and ? 🤷🏻‍♂️ theologic is right vmax derestricted 1 gen smoked vrod each gen and version and gen 2 is oit of scale in terms of straight acceleration 👍🏻 watch this feg vmax 2 gen vs vrod 1/4 mille vmax 2 run away very strong from vrod base on numbers after 1/4 mille both are stock 😉👍🏻 m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/noPTlnhubcqjgqs&pp=ygUNdm1heCB2cyB2cm9kIA%3D%3D now some stuff about rocket 3 first gen it also lost with even 1 gen vmax derestricted new rocket 4 win with 1 gen or be close but lost with 2 gen 👍🏻

[@metatronmen2431]

In my opinion the V-Rod looks better.V-Rod muscle 125HP and 85 pounds of torque and 9.000 RPMs. The new Milwaukee 107 CI produces 92.53HP (69kw) @ 5020 rpm, and the 114 produces 100.57HP (75kw) @ 5020 Is not rocket science, the Vrod kick ass, gimme the Vrod all day.

[@kendean2119]

My 18 breakout has a woods 22x cam kit along with a thundermax heavy breather a 2bros 2into1 pipe and it’s 120/130 at the wheel which means at the crank it’s doing 130 horse power with 140 foot pounds of torque and not slow by any means For a 700 pound bike that’s turning a 240 rear tire

[@metatronmen2431]

@@kendean2119 you have an amazing bike there but I was talking about stock bikes/engines side by side, the vrod used to have some evil after market stages kits as well.

[@anthonylauer1829]

Its not plastic its fiberglass on the vrod. Its balanced great you just aren't balaced.

[@semperfipar1299]

The dealers killed off the VROD. Harley's answer to modern motorcycling and they killed it and went back to the thirties engine tech. I was going to buy a VROD after commuting back and forth on my 1200S for years. I had a hard time finding a dealer that had a good selection of the VROD, I was looking for the night rod . Then they quit making them and I did not want to get another primary chain driven pushrod motor so I went over to Victory and bought a Judge. Now the wife wants to ride with me so I am looking for a good bagger and I looked at the Harley line up and will probably go with Indian because they are more bang for the buck with modern engines. Harley should have taken that revolution engine and adapted it to their entire lineup. Sure it does not sound like an old Harley but with the factory headers it sounded like a new and improved Harley.

[@akaredcrossbow]

To be honest with the loss of the carburetor and using fuel injection a Harley doesn’t sound like a Harley anymore anyway, so hardcore HD enthusiasts have no problem with that lol. With the right pipes and tuning you can get a V-Rod to sound like a traditional Harley at idle and low speeds. Once you turn that throttle all the way is when it changes and sounds like a dragster. 👍🏻👍🏻

[@ansv3340]

You are full of shit polaris paid bot, go away

[@akaredcrossbow]

An Sv Me? I wish I could get paid to comment!👍🏻👍🏻

[@semperfipar1299]

Oh my. You can’t handle the truth. By the way Indian is made in Spirit Lake Iowa. Harley Davidson is out of touch with the motorcycling world. Go watch Fortnine on what Harley did. You can be a brand loyalist and that is okay.

[@oychoppa]

Breakout is just the same ol’ same ol’. The VRod Muscle is by far a much cooler bike.

[@unluckyeddy7966]

The V-Rod wants to go fast

[@oscar2b913]

Breakout is better hands down. I have had both

[@willstikken5619]

The revolutionx and revolutionmax engines are not directly related to the V-rods revolution beyond being liquid cooled Harleys.

[@treys2111]

Both 60 degree v twins Both 1250 cc Both dohc Same HP ratings Same bore and stroke.... Both have 4 valves per cylinder Both have two spark plugs per cylinder... So it goes a little past just being liquid cooled

[@willstikken5619]

@@treys2111 Sure, if you stand back far enough and only read the brochures these engines have more in common than cooling. They are 60 degree, liquid cooled V-Twins with 4-valve DOHC arrangements. This is superficial though and has nothing to do with my point. These engines are not related and they are not evolutions of each other as implied. These 3 engine families are incredibly different beasts. For what it’s worth only the Revolution and Revolution Max engines offered 1250cc variants and they have wildly different HP and torque ratings. The Max also has different cam arrangement with VVT and is the only one of the 3 to include two spark plugs per cylinder.

[@treys2111]

I feel like the vr1000 is to the revolution what the revolution is to the max. Would you agree?

[@willstikken5619]

@@treys2111I can see why you might but I wouldn't. We are quibbling over a matter of degrees but the Revolution is a refinement of the VR1000 architecture, the Max is a different architecture from the Revolution. The max may turn out to be a great engine, and I hope it is, but it is a new design not an improved design.

[@brianstewart2401]

It's a Harley motor that was designed for super bike racing that Porsche helped to make a street motor! Porsche did not design the revolution motor.

[@kkapalle]

HD was not able to make a modern engine which last long, that's why they finally had to hire Porsche to do that incl. the frame!

[@justinpino8115]

Klaus, they would have done better going to Honda or Yamaha then

[@brianstewart2401]

@@justinpino8115 the Revo Engine is completely bullet proof! check your valve lash every 20,000 miles. A rock solid motor that Yamaha and Honda would have a time replicating.

[@b2dary890]

Exactly, I don't know why the fuk people keep saying it was built by Porsche. It was not built by Porsche! It's a f****** Harley motor, based on a race motor Harley developed in the early 90s called the VR1000

[@justinjerome6950]

that would be ridiculous

[@beastusa]

Great video pretty much just what most VROD riders think. And for the Porsche didn't design the VROD people. in 1996 Harley WENT TO Porsche for help in designing a street version of the VR1000 that would last more then a weekend. If this link kzbin.info/www/bejne/faHWeKqQjNuAnJI at 16 minutes doesn't work. Just search "Designing the VROD" It was built by Harley the design was done with the help of Porsche. I have had 4 Harley's in my life, all but the VRod I spent thousands on to go fast. I have a 2007 Night Rod that I have spent very little on modding (tuner, air, custom pipes I made) and it is the best Harley I ever ever owned. And by far the most FUN to ride and beat your friends down with. LOL I like all the Harley's love riding them all, but the VROD is like riding a video game. Until they bring back something like the VROD I will be only buying used VROD's.

[@philipwhaley9441]

I completely disagree. I think the V Rod Black Denim is the sexiest bike Harley have ever made.

[@KingFriday274]

Why do yo keep calling them light weight? Are you comparing them to a ford f-150?

[@ourtime-downhere6931]

go and actually ride one, the vrod is loads of fun and feels very light and brilliant to ride. very good bikes and quick.

[@giopirmisashvili5514]

V rod❤❤❤

[@MrPAULONEAL]

V Rod vs FXDR

[@richardbarr6814]

L had a Nightrod and loved it wouldnt chage a thing. Taco riding position .... BS . l found it comfortable and l laugh when l see vertically challenged folks on them.

[@giannilunardi7560]

Vrod forever..!!

[@Pinozcyclezandridez]

Vrod muscle!!!

[@mariQ09]

Breakout is nice but it doesn’t come anywhere close to the v rod

[@Theologic]

The king of the rake is the Yamaha Raider

[@MrPAULONEAL]

The Backstreet boys were larger than life...

[@ourtime-downhere6931]

I may run and hide when you're screaming my name, all right ......

[@jbsp5099]

Race the damn things

[@DanBlackRacing]

Night Train!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@lukerafull1775]

V rod e muito maquina amda mais de final mas a m8 e mais top de andar sem falar no torke absurdo em baixa

[@FalconsFuryHarleyDavidson]

Torque es el rey con Harley-Davidson. Gracias por mirar nuestros videos.

[@TheNightmaro79]

The break out does not handle better than the V Rod!! The lean angle is rubbish!!! Come on man ride the bikes!

[@Jam31337]

The engine is not Porche designed, the design is as usual Harley Davidson's but the engine example was sent to Porche to run the durability test of theirs and their engineers came back with their suggestions that were done before the V Rod began produced.

[@iamthebroker]

Wrong. Completely wrong. HD engineers embedded themselves into Porsches R&D headquarters in Germany to transition the H.D. VR1000 engine (which was Harley’s existing water cooled racing engine) into a production compatible unit for use in the P4 project (which became the VRod). Development issues which manifested mainly during reliability and durability testing (500 hours non stop in simulated real world [autobahn] conditions) meant the partnership team (of combined HD and Porsche engineers based at Porsche) was told to start with a clean sheet. Thus the end result was indeed a complete new designed primarily with Porsches input at their R&D facilities and tested to production standard over there.

[@jordanjoestar8839]

The answer is easy. Yamaha Vmax

[@jesusesparza8984]

That is not the answer

[@johnmcaleese8459]

@@jesusesparza8984 No, but as a '17 Breakout owner, I must say the Vmax is a bad ass bike. Would love to have one next to the Breakout.

[@helsfury]

@13:47 Oh sorry! I just collided with your vrod because I drive a bike like an idiot , sorry.

[@Thirteen7447]

Breakout looks a lot like the Yammy Warrior 1700 🤔

[@Theologic]

More like the Yammy Raider IMO

[@motosekta410]

А в это время люди катаются на Yamaha V-Max, и смеются над этими тихоходами))

[@MrPAULONEAL]

You're way off on the weight of the V rod muscle. They actually weigh 1,075lbs.

[@ansv3340]

Paul O'Neal yeah right, maybe 3 of them, what are they boss hoss?

[@b2dary890]

No you're way off bro😂😂😂😂

[@PEN1_Ontario_909]

@@MrPAULONEAL thats a GVWR weight rating with passengers. Its dry weight is 673 pounds without rider capacity figured in

[@isaiahfry6005]

No they don’t

[@dragan4658]

The V rod motor is NOT Porsche designed. Porche was involved in and designed only the cooling for the V rod.

[@zf4hp24]

Actually, not entirely true. They did a lot of systems design and reliability testing. But tons of internal pieces are German-spec, including the Hatz crankshaft, Mahle pistons and con rods and the Getrag transmission. It was at least a 50/50 combined effort on the engine and transmission. Interestingly, the radiator design, including the scoops, was entirely HD in Milwaukee. The only motorcycle on display in the Porsche museum, and the first efforts at Porsche Engineering by 911 icon Andreas Preuninger

[@dragan4658]

@@zf4hp24 cooling includes more than just the rad, my point being Porche was not a major contributor to the VRod as some people seem to think and the engine is based on the older HD 1000 cc racing motor.

[@dragan4658]

Correct

[@CycleCruza]

Now go test ride a Ducati XDiavel S with the rider aides off and get back with me. lol It will blow both of those bikes away in every way.

[@FalconsFuryHarleyDavidson]

I've ridden the Ducati. It's an amazing machine, one I'd happily have in my garage.

[@howardrossell2771]

V rod vs breakout. Don't see a Ducati in the title? Don't know what you seen. But yer way off track. Get a nap try again

[@KillaCommieFerMommie]

The Beatles are the King of all "boy bands".... and that V-Rod is just ugly

[@primedirective00]

Harley guys are so funny. "120 hp is a lot of power" LOL... I guess if you're used to riding motorcycles from a company that spends all its money on marketing instead of engineering that's the kind of stuff you're gonna hear.