I grew up in Milwaukee where Harley company is located, now retired in India. After test ride at Sai Hero in Bangalore, booked and waiting. Best of both worlds USA design and India built, Hero has 5 yr warranty and awesome service (Xpulse owner) plus riding a Harley is the dream come true.
@bigbearbangalore9 ай бұрын
🙌 thanks for sharing.
@AshwinAithal--Ashli10 ай бұрын
What an amazingly hilarious take on a simple motorcycle review ! Unique but still managed to cover all the major points and that too without showing any unnecessary ride footage. Brilliant!! ❤
@bigbearbangalore10 ай бұрын
Glad you liked it! Many thanks. 🙏
@sudhansuranjanmohapatra642910 ай бұрын
You guys make us feel good describing the attributes of the bikes you review ❤
@bigbearbangalore10 ай бұрын
🙏🙏🙏🙂
@abhishek339810 ай бұрын
I've noticed reviewers having their initial opinions changed and a big smile after riding this bike. They didn't have enough of it and ended up booking it. Hero must have done some cost cutting but they did keep the motorcycling experience as good as ever. You guys must've had a blast riding it as well. Can't wait to get my hands on it as well.
@bigbearbangalore10 ай бұрын
Yes. I was a bit skeptical and post the ride, a fan.
@fieryspy641410 ай бұрын
Yeah the black paint hero seems to be using is really bad. They seem to have used the same paint on the trellis frame of the Karizma and the x440. Both look bad because of which the build quality also looks kinda iffy. Same with the welds on the frame. But at the end of the day when youre riding and youre gliding through the road, the motor is what speaks to you and Hero seems to have done a fantastic job of making an actual Royal Enfield competitor while still staying true to the Harely name in terms of the character of the engine.
@bigbearbangalore10 ай бұрын
@fieryspy6414 let's see if the finish improves with the next batch. And well said about the overall ride and engine.
@CowKora10 ай бұрын
Lovely editing Bosky. One of the best reviews. Looking forward for much more.
@bigbearbangalore10 ай бұрын
Cheers!
@renegade75652 ай бұрын
Got goosebumps when you were talking about a cruiser version. As an Avenger rider tired of waiting for Avenger 400, I'll go for that in a heartbeat!!
@bigbearbangalore2 ай бұрын
👍
@user-bm2gb2pn6h10 ай бұрын
Yes !! Was figuring out wat to watch while eating lunch, now i forgot what I ate 😂 !! This is exactly what the 500cc classic should have been. Perfect one bike " to (almost) rule them all " only gripe is the pricing ...crosses 3 lac !! (Of that KA RTO takes nearly 60k in road tax and cess.. ridiculous !!!)
@bigbearbangalore10 ай бұрын
😀 yes the 500cc J would have been something like this. And yes it’s a bit pricey.
@somnathdey15810 ай бұрын
Don't watch anything while eating eat slowly and chew thoroughly.
@sibarshisdutta10 ай бұрын
Saw it on the street once near Indiranagar. It sounds good but design wise, it looks like an unfinished engineering project that has a lot of potential but needs improvement.
@bigbearbangalore10 ай бұрын
Yes the design comes across a bit quirky in the beginning and it grew upon me after a while.
@user-bm2gb2pn6h10 ай бұрын
Haven't seen any of it, saw couple of Triumph 400 but no x440 !! Hope it does good numbers .
@AhamedHanifa10 ай бұрын
Fantastic and thorough review! For example, not a single reviewer has touched upon the stopper in the fuel tank in their reviews of this bike.
@bigbearbangalore10 ай бұрын
Happy to hear you enjoyed watching. Thanks.
@nischals51010 ай бұрын
I really think a well designed back rest will vastly improve the looks on the rear.
@bigbearbangalore10 ай бұрын
Yes and am sure there'll be a backrest as an accessory available soon.
@vibhupande10 ай бұрын
Nicely done, gentlemen! In Part 2, can you pls try cover the experience with pillion on bumpy roads (pls comment on the lack of a subframe too), plus the performance of those tires in muddy conditions.
@bigbearbangalore10 ай бұрын
Thanks. Will check on this possibility. Thanks for the suggestion. Regards.
@meninodsouza653810 ай бұрын
Loved the format and the camaraderie, looking forward to part 2
@bigbearbangalore10 ай бұрын
Thanks. Cheers!
@Vikrum_10 ай бұрын
This was fun, your videos are zen and so simple.
@bigbearbangalore10 ай бұрын
Thanks! 🙏
@hormazdirani143110 ай бұрын
So happy to have your review, at last, also to have your validation for something I am interested for myself. Maybe this one is for keeps.
@bigbearbangalore10 ай бұрын
Hope you enjoy it!
@twowheeledparadox10 ай бұрын
The auto-headlight and console colour change from the light theme to the dark theme is better implemented in the 2017-2023 390 Duke (gen 2). As soon as you enter a dark area, it switches from the DRL mode to the main headlight and from light to dark mode. However, when you get back into a bright area like after exiting a tunnel or underpass, it does not immediately switch back. There is clearly a hysterisis programmed into this and it switches back only after several seconds. This way it does not flip flop all the time.
@bigbearbangalore10 ай бұрын
👍🙂
@sarbjeet268410 ай бұрын
I love the way you guys describe this machine……
@bigbearbangalore10 ай бұрын
🙏👍
@surendarmohan987810 ай бұрын
I'm glad you gave all the credit x440 needed.
@bigbearbangalore10 ай бұрын
👍🙏
@jacobjp57999 ай бұрын
the side stand part mentioned is true it is delicate, i had ridden one which was dropped by previous riderr since he had lost his footing, (the previous rider story aside) what happened is motorcycle shut down(soft shut down ) and the display showed side stand down (in red), it required Harley sales rep to instruct over phone to me (which was easy for me to execute the process) awsome guy to get the motorcycle to start again a 'soft' sidestand kick on lumpy road also the side stand down error croped up too giving a soft engine off (almost like there is no fuel cutoff feel) The ride is awsome my shoulder is more open or free for me which is new awsome feel . other part is the rear shocks are very nice from OE (RE are too stiff from showroom M350) but it bounce me off the seat on lumpy road (yeah i was quick) ride is comfortable (on short test ride)which was surprising the seat is lengthy for a actual humans can sit behind (almost) various pot belly humans can sit without belly pressed behind my back gear shift are slick and with positive click/almost like a ratcheting wrench (70tooth type)
@bigbearbangalore9 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing so much detail. Regards.
@soumenpaul75447 ай бұрын
Would be nice to have a ADV with this engine. This and the ADV could well turn out to be the RE killer given RE's recent love for less vibes and high revs..
@bigbearbangalore7 ай бұрын
👍
@raki123ish10 ай бұрын
Was eagerly waiting for this
@bigbearbangalore10 ай бұрын
Hope you were entertained. 🙂🙏
@Vidya6187 ай бұрын
Am planning tp buy one and just watching reciews before my test ride, but after watching your reviews, i think am at ease now , thank you. Rgds Arun
@bigbearbangalore7 ай бұрын
Best wishes.
@tejeswar3 ай бұрын
Motocycle is not a jewelry, this is a machine, machine should work well and give peace of mind. It is the feeling what matters.
@bigbearbangalore3 ай бұрын
🫡
@user-zq8xk3ee7d10 ай бұрын
I am truly a fan . Firstly a fan of Bosky and CK. This was the first vlog i have seen of yours and you guys are totally amazing. Now secondly i am also a fan of this Bike and already have booked it. Got the message today itself of deliveries happening after 15th Oct.
@bigbearbangalore10 ай бұрын
Thanks. And congrats on the impending purchase. Best wishes.
@smax137 ай бұрын
Awesome review guys, hilarious and informative.
@bigbearbangalore7 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@taruns03110 ай бұрын
I enjoyed your bike reviews ❤
@bigbearbangalore10 ай бұрын
👍🙏
@vinaynaik647410 ай бұрын
Awesome review....u guys really jazz it ( better than rocking it )
@bigbearbangalore10 ай бұрын
Thanks.
@ashvin2510 ай бұрын
Lovely review! Harley made in India, Harley made for India! From where to where, awesome 👍🏽👍🏽
@bigbearbangalore10 ай бұрын
🙏👍
@naveenbhat193010 ай бұрын
Good one, this bike basically fills the void created by the absence of RE 500cc ......RE should consider bringing it back in the J avatar.....
@bigbearbangalore10 ай бұрын
Exactly!!
@vinaysindhe10 ай бұрын
Can we have a video on the background of Bosky and CK? how u guys met, what u do and so on ?
@bigbearbangalore10 ай бұрын
The two are just a couple goofy old foggies having a good time. No plan, no script, no agenda. Just a motorcycle and a mobile phone. 🙂
@siddharthshekhawat55029 ай бұрын
U two are too good😂😂
@bigbearbangalore9 ай бұрын
😊🙏
@wankhede099 ай бұрын
Classic duo.. thank you 🙏
@bigbearbangalore9 ай бұрын
Thanks for listening.
@kruzerblade47408 ай бұрын
my take: The Harley Davidson X440 is Harley Davidson's Americana tribute to the entire 500 cc lineup from Royal Enfield. It is effectively the Indo-Americanised version of the Bullet 500, Classic 500, and Thunderbird 500 combined.
@bigbearbangalore8 ай бұрын
👍🙏
@intercepted6618 ай бұрын
True. Perfect step up for someone not interested in investing in a re 350.
@uthkarshnaik660810 ай бұрын
@bigbearbangalore Love the video. Internet is filled with videos with stupid b roll instead and not talking any substance and opions. Yes bikers are opinionated as per their taste and IL like to hear them , most videos are oration of the brochure with b-roll, great job BBB, if you have a tier subscription I'd love to join.🎉
@bigbearbangalore10 ай бұрын
Thank you. 🙏
@sunilbalan409810 ай бұрын
On a serious note, if hero had to put this engine or the karizma engine into the xpulse would be fab na
@bigbearbangalore10 ай бұрын
This engine is a low revving thumper and may not suit the Xp. The Zmr engine may suit better.
@dfarmer42015 ай бұрын
An adventure version stepping up the suspension a wee bit could sock the Himalayan to pulp.
@bigbearbangalore5 ай бұрын
May be.
@bitey67093 ай бұрын
Unfortunately here in Australia, HD have decided that a Harley newbie is more likely to buy a gutless Chinese parallel twin than a torquey single. So we won't be getting the X 440.
@bigbearbangalore3 ай бұрын
Oops! Sorry to hear.
@ajaynadkarni484710 ай бұрын
You both are too good. Subscribed ❤💐
@bigbearbangalore10 ай бұрын
🙇♂️
@premswarooppaul110910 ай бұрын
Superb and unbiased review.
@bigbearbangalore10 ай бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@nishantgurjar723210 ай бұрын
Waiting for Xpulse 210 . It will be 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@bigbearbangalore10 ай бұрын
Hope so!
@aryadebmondal10 ай бұрын
Excited to own this baby 🤩
@bigbearbangalore10 ай бұрын
Congrats!
@shahminhajuddin8 ай бұрын
Very interesting perspectives
@bigbearbangalore8 ай бұрын
Glad you think so!
@maanavdj381010 ай бұрын
*need your thoughts on the Apache rtr 310 sir!* 🙌 *love your content!*
@bigbearbangalore10 ай бұрын
Am sorry am not familiar with sport motorcycles. Thanks!
@dfarmer42015 ай бұрын
Watching this video at 1.5 speed. 👌🏽
@bigbearbangalore5 ай бұрын
👍
@vishwasv96238 ай бұрын
Please make part 2 want to know more as I have booked this bike..
@bigbearbangalore8 ай бұрын
Yes, soon.
@sathishkumar-uh2kc10 ай бұрын
They use the handgrips from 2003 karizma till date 😀
@bigbearbangalore10 ай бұрын
😃 cost control
@ENSREENATH10 ай бұрын
Really nice...funny,cool... please go for some good visuals and editing with little music bgms can make it more enjoyable...
@bigbearbangalore10 ай бұрын
Thanks. And I've reached the limits of my tech skills so let's see how to improve. Thanks for thr suggestion.
@harismohapatra627410 ай бұрын
sir im wating this bike from past 2 months ,,,they said they will deliver me in November ...but now they were saying they will deliver me January ,,,,,.so i cancelled my bike and already purchased a BMW bike....and this nov i have my 1st service aslo
@bigbearbangalore10 ай бұрын
Ah ok. Congrats on the BMW.
@RKRaos6310 ай бұрын
Loved the engine, if Hero provide this engine in xpulse 440 then I will buy it.
@bigbearbangalore10 ай бұрын
Let's see. Unlikely though.
@sunilbalan409810 ай бұрын
You guys are fuckin hilarious and honest.. me being a tamilian based here in Gurgaon, you southies are very close to my heart.. hope to meet you folks when in blr next 😊
@bigbearbangalore10 ай бұрын
😃🫡
@cryptosai53410 ай бұрын
You got new subscriber guys 😅ur too good
@bigbearbangalore10 ай бұрын
🙏
@Satyanarayana-dy3ts9 ай бұрын
Hero - Harley tied up that's ok , they want RE market okay. Harley is mostly known for cruiser in India. 1.bike seems to be a direct rival for bullet or classic 2. So are they cooking something competition for meteor 350 ? As I was expecting a proper cruiser I hear they registered a nightster 440 name will it be worth a wait. With X440 engine on nightster like design.
@bigbearbangalore8 ай бұрын
👍
@prathamsoni908 ай бұрын
Where is our Part 2? waiting for it.
@bigbearbangalore8 ай бұрын
In the works. Later this month.
@kalyansankardawn518810 ай бұрын
You guys missed the servicing topic ... how easy it would be to service this vehicle, the Hero service centres would do it?
@bigbearbangalore10 ай бұрын
We'll pick up on that in Part 2 of the video.
@jenishngl10 ай бұрын
@@bigbearbangaloreBTW when is the part 2 coming?
@bigbearbangalore10 ай бұрын
@jenishngl sometime next month perhaps.
@sumitshaw678610 ай бұрын
Why the top end model is always discussed... Wish you had the base variant also compared at same time...
@bigbearbangalore10 ай бұрын
Had access to this model only and yes your suggestion noted. Will check on this possibility. Thanks.
@multiaduful10 ай бұрын
Do you guys think this one's a good candidate for a scrambler build?
@bigbearbangalore10 ай бұрын
Oh yeah!!!! The low end grunt will be awesome on the dirt.
@vaibhavm85398 ай бұрын
I’m in a dilemma between x440 and himalayan 450 which would be better and this would be my first bike
@bigbearbangalore8 ай бұрын
H450 if you like the ADV style. Ride and choose.
@mallikarjunhagargi78309 ай бұрын
So far hero or Harley have No information on below: Accessories kit RSA and HOG is optional or not Service costs after first 3 free service Sir any idea please share your thoughts in short video
@bigbearbangalore9 ай бұрын
Will do when I come to know. Thanks.
@SurajSinghTomarArya9 ай бұрын
Honda should have made CB400, 450 or 500 instead of trying to modernize the 350cc Enfields which RE was already working on at the time. They should have tried to fill the vaccum created by discontinuation of Enfield 500. This bike did just that. Enfield will never launch 500cc single due to their 650s but there is still place for a CB500.
@bigbearbangalore8 ай бұрын
👍👍👍
@user-ff1km5qy2t10 ай бұрын
I'm currently using Classic 350 2018 dual discbrake version, does it worth upgrading to 440x -Not a heavy rider -Need good pick up and comfort
@bigbearbangalore9 ай бұрын
Take a test ride and check.
@Jinx02710 ай бұрын
Really confused between a new Harley and a friend's second hand Interceptor 650. Any recommendations?
@bigbearbangalore10 ай бұрын
The conundrum!! The Inty is a lot more fun on good roads. Not great in heavy traffic and commuting. The X440 is lighter and nimbler and not as powerful obviously. Great all rounder.
@ManojKumar-198510 ай бұрын
Bosky actual name is ?
@abhishekjmadan10 ай бұрын
His real name is HELLLOOOOOO
@bigbearbangalore10 ай бұрын
😃
@karthikeyan243310 ай бұрын
Sir whats your opinion about the honda cb300f vs 350rs which one is better for daily usage.
@bigbearbangalore10 ай бұрын
Depends on what type of posture and engine character you like. Ride and choose.
@karthikeyan243310 ай бұрын
Okay sir
@MordernPandit10 ай бұрын
Hi ,which color looks good matte black or glossy red/grey
@bigbearbangalore10 ай бұрын
The grey is top end variant. The red is mid variant and looks smashing.
@karpich19948 ай бұрын
You remind me of my jolly uncle ❤😂
@bigbearbangalore8 ай бұрын
🙏
@ximin_sleepy10 ай бұрын
Planning on either this or Hunter 350, the issue with looks of this bike is the rear open space looks hideous to me, is there a way to modify and cover that vacant space? also when will the bookings be resumed? Also could you please do a comparison video of riding comfort at various speeds, suspension and all that stuff!
@bigbearbangalore10 ай бұрын
This is about 1.2 lakh more than the Hunter. And once a rider is seated, that vacant space gets covered. And yes a Part 2 is planned to cover aspects we did not cover in this video. And we have no idea about booking schedules.
@ximin_sleepy10 ай бұрын
@@bigbearbangalore cool! other than that the bike looks sick🔥, they say it looks great in person than in picture, yes please make a part 2 focusing on riding comfort for long drives and if any back related pains experienced, also I'd like to see some after market modifications!! great video btw thanks😇😇
@bigbearbangalore10 ай бұрын
@wangpixu234 👍
@vishakr719410 ай бұрын
Please preserve the name Art of Unwinding 😅
@bigbearbangalore10 ай бұрын
Will always be. ❤️
@user-cw3fx5qs5r9 ай бұрын
Is it Worth 3.6 L for x440 , or should it be good to go with 2.5 L around for the upcoming x210 model ?
@bigbearbangalore9 ай бұрын
Your choice. Your budget. Ride and buy the one you enjoy most. Different motorcycles they are.
@user-cw3fx5qs5r9 ай бұрын
@@bigbearbangalore thank you sure will do it and back to you if any guidance impulse
@Sourabh-di5vs7 ай бұрын
wait for hero bike model based on the same engine which will be significantly cheaper but same quality. Mavrick 440
@santhoshkj10 ай бұрын
Anna, ಇದು ಮೋಸ.... What stopped you from doing similar kind of Review for Triumph Speed 400.... the attention to detail for Speed 400 was too less, Remeber ನಿಮ್ಮ ಮಾತು ನಮಗೆ ದೇವವಾಕ್ಯ... on a one liner do you can you please help me choose between Harley 440x vs Triumph 400... Please Anna
@bigbearbangalore10 ай бұрын
We speak and shoot candidly and have no script foe any of our videos. Hence there is no set path or theme. May be we will do a part 2 for the Speed 400. And I cannot choose for you between the two. For me at my age and slow speed, I prefer the X440.
@ART-ii2vl8 ай бұрын
Did we forget about the part 2 ?!
@bigbearbangalore8 ай бұрын
We? Hold on. Soon.
@Vishnuvkammath8 ай бұрын
Is this Scott cycling jersey? Is this value for money or over priced?
@bigbearbangalore8 ай бұрын
Scott motorcycle jersey. 'Value' of an item is a personal opinion.
@nishantgurjar723210 ай бұрын
Theres that gap between tank and handle bars it looks wired ☹️☹️ . If only they can fix it, it will look better 😔😔. It's a bigger version of classic 350 😊😊😊
@bigbearbangalore10 ай бұрын
Yes the design is a bit quirky. It's a Classic on steroids!
@drury2d89 ай бұрын
A backrest would make the bike look complete, looks a bit odd towards the rear. Seems like the designers gave up or something.
@bigbearbangalore9 ай бұрын
As an accessory it's available.
@TEAKY887 ай бұрын
Triumph speed 400 or This one, please tell
@bigbearbangalore7 ай бұрын
Personal choice. What's your style?
@rahul___k9 ай бұрын
When is the part 2 coming?
@bigbearbangalore9 ай бұрын
Mid November
@rahul___k8 ай бұрын
@@bigbearbangalore still waiting for part 2
@bigbearbangalore8 ай бұрын
Delayed due to vehicle non-availability and I've been busy with my work last few weeks.
@harshith529310 ай бұрын
Help me decide !! Ninja 300 or Harley Davidson x440 I know one is a cruiser and one more is a tourer Took a test ride of both i liked both of them and now i am confused I am ok with price difference Looking for comfortable riding posture don't wanna hurt my back Ninja looks more value for money compared Looking for a commute in Bangalore and occasional highway
@bigbearbangalore10 ай бұрын
Commuting will be easier on the X440. And highway touring also good on the Harley.
@umarsyed75388 ай бұрын
How tall is it? Looks really tall compared to CB350 or RE
@bigbearbangalore8 ай бұрын
It's not tall. Easy flat foot for 5'4" too.
@umarsyed75388 ай бұрын
Cool. Thanks. I'm a lot taller. Maybe the design makes it look taller in pictures. Need to see it in real. Happy weekend.
@MadaraUchiha-nk8tc10 ай бұрын
Can a guy of weight 50-55 can ride this bike?
@bigbearbangalore10 ай бұрын
Why not? Skills can be learnt for sure. Don't be intimidated.
@daprak848 ай бұрын
is part 2 available
@bigbearbangalore8 ай бұрын
Not yet
@daprak848 ай бұрын
@@bigbearbangalore I have booked it and waiting for delivery so exploring !!!! found Himalayan bit to top heavy and not that easy to handle while not riding !!! was blown over by the ride on the Harley X440 test ride 🤩🤩🤩
@abhikachieverofdailygoals162110 ай бұрын
Triumph 400x or Harley x 440 which looks great in built ?? And which will be great for touring??
@bigbearbangalore10 ай бұрын
Speed 400 build quality is good. X440 is for easy touring and cruising and the S400 is for energetic, quick and fast travel. Different characteristics. It's a choice as tobwjat one wants.
@abhikachieverofdailygoals162110 ай бұрын
@@bigbearbangalore sir I was talking about triumph scrambler 400x .. As posture is good though engine characters would be like s400 only
@bigbearbangalore10 ай бұрын
Ok. Same feedback at the moment. Let's see if the 400X is going to be so different to the 400S.
@terryld910 ай бұрын
Hardly Davidson Anglo Indian Hybrid Splendour 😂 not blender 🤣
@bigbearbangalore10 ай бұрын
😅
@lxmn0078 ай бұрын
Everything nice 😅but the amount of ads damn dude surely is minting money on this video
@bigbearbangalore8 ай бұрын
Show me the money!
@lxmn0078 ай бұрын
👍
@vipul75710 ай бұрын
You simply cant get to know the exhaust sound from here . Experience in real.
@bigbearbangalore10 ай бұрын
Agree
@reyanshmandal924810 ай бұрын
Sb thik hai delivery date kuch bolo baki choddo booking kiya time bahut ho gaya
@bigbearbangalore10 ай бұрын
Sorry, we have no idea on booking and delivery dates. That's for the dealership and Hero to update you on. Regards.
@md.farooqpeerzade271710 ай бұрын
The only draw back is weight.......205kg heavier then RE bikes also........
@saaamaak10 ай бұрын
You might wanna check that again. Somewhere I read it is 6 kgs lighter than the classic
@bigbearbangalore10 ай бұрын
All metal so yes it's on the heavier some.
@mrlg381110 ай бұрын
even ur shot angle is also marlyn munro 😆😆😆. built to a cost but not selling to a cost, could get an interceptor for 16k more.
@bigbearbangalore10 ай бұрын
Got carried away! 💃
@sachinp776710 ай бұрын
Let the underarm cool 😂
@bigbearbangalore10 ай бұрын
😉
@pangkammarak962310 ай бұрын
Ameridian😂
@bigbearbangalore10 ай бұрын
😃
@anuven410 ай бұрын
Harley Indian trying to create Potato potato music.
@bigbearbangalore10 ай бұрын
But turned to tomato tomato. 🙂
@anuven410 ай бұрын
Ha ha ha that humor 😂
@sayeretmatkaal8 ай бұрын
A SINGLE-cylinder version of Harley is about as exciting as a lesbian version of Marilyn-Monroe 🙄🙄🙄
@bigbearbangalore8 ай бұрын
🫡
@joydip2910 ай бұрын
Jokers 🃏 mocking. It’s a paid review for sure ☑️.
@bigbearbangalore10 ай бұрын
🤡🎪 Apparently we don't share the same sense of humour. Cheers!
@mostlysunny4u3 ай бұрын
It is really good to see your balanced review and giving due to others as well. I have seen some folks whom I respected before but now feels like they are sponsored. Respect you 🫡
@bigbearbangalore3 ай бұрын
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@ugenbhutia134510 ай бұрын
what about JAWA'S bikes? your thoughts on boober 42 and ADV?