Olight Baldr Mini vs. Streamlight TLR-8G

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[@andretakacs4904]

I have 3 Olights: a BALDR Pro and 2 BALDR Minis on 3 different firearms and I don't understand the hate. All of them work perfectly. The laser doesn't drift. Never had an overheating issue. I play all day with them having my dog chase the laser around and then I go recharge the minis. And I bought the 3 of them for the price of one Surefire or Streamlight. When I have a problem with one, I'll let you know. I get that they're made in China, which I don't like but even the "Made in USA" brands are assembled from components made in China. If you want to hate something, hate the fact your politicians sold us out to China.

[@andretakacs4904]

@@Noneofyourbusiness99 is it a mini or a PRO? I found that my minis drift slightly but my PRO laser doesn't seem to drift at all.

[@Axethales]

Have my BALDR PRO on my home defense shotgun... it works perfectly. Batteries can also be changed out. Not much is made in America - the only car today made in America, with "mostly" American made parts is a Tesla.

[@themightypen1530]

Carrying a rechargeable battery around right over your crotch probably isn't the best idea though. I have an Olight as well, and I am going to have to replace it with a Streamlight. If I had been thinking I never would have bought an Olight, or at least not the one with the lithium-ion battery.

[@Happyandiknowit69]

It's the button for me. I'm a streamlight button fan

[@andretakacs4904]

@@themightypen1530 I don't see how a rechargeable or non-rechargeable battery changes anything. Your cell phone gives off way more EM radiation than any battery, especially one not in use.

[@CheesyGhostOnToast]

I don't understand why people hate on olight. I have never had issues with mine and in the off chance you actually end up needing a light for self defense the olight will work just fine. It turns on, it's a light. No need to spend 3x the money just to say you have a stream light cuz at the end of the day most people are mindless and obey marketing geniuses without even knowing it. Thanks for not being biased.

[@tacbear]

NOW that is a Review....I have NEVER seen a review this NON-Biased...I have 3 TLR-8's and I am ready to sell them!!

[@LuisLopez-gh5ym]

How much for 1?

[@marcussweetser]

I assume you're not satisfied with the quality or the performance. Have you sold them all yet? And I'm lazy so what are the lumens on that particular model? I've been really wanting to buy some Nightcore or FedEx but I've been broke because I'm scumbag roommates who don't know how to pay the rent so I have to pay $1,000 a month to let two scumbags set my cockroaches in the bedroom and I have to go through Court to get him out turn my flashlight by and days are over for a bit unfortunately. My brother-in-law got me into flashlights and I collect flashlights watches and hats baseball caps to be exact and watches but the biggest question is probably the Hat then the flashlight I'm north of I'm north of 50 flashlights. I'm in love with the Bushnell series that Walmart has has had for the past few years the only one in the series that didn't get is the 1500 Lumen one but I didn't realize that there's a USB port for charging devices so I've had like over 10 different flashlights and even more Bluetooth speakers that have charging capability for other devices which I was unaware of. And that's a big deal because I'm a tech Hound and usually know a lot about electronics and it it was a crackhead on the street in the city where I live that tell me about the charging capabilities of my Bluetooth speaker :-) sad huh

[@OscarMartinez-dy2sh]

@@marcussweetser lol i took the time to read everything you said and man you have some minor problems but very fixable hehe

[@EvanC89]

I'll buy one if you seriously want to to sell

[@mendoafgoo420]

StreamLight doesn’t dim after being on for 5-10 minutes cleaning a building or property. The olight dims over time of being on and gets super hot. Yes it’s a lot more technology packed into a small package with unique features however you can’t use Those olights the same way you can a StreamLight or surefire. The light is no good if you can’t see after clearing only the first floor of 10 story building or a expansive property. The StreamLight is either on or off and it takes 30 seconds to throw in fully charged battery no matter where you are and the olight is handicapped by needing to be charged by power station or outlet. For an apartment or condo or small 3 bedroom rancher with small plot of land the olight is more then adequate. However for real duty use or home defense use there’s just no way i would go with olight

[@rickm4295]

It was cool to see the olight next to the expensive competition. I already bought 2 of those bundles last night. I have a feeling holster companies are about to get busy busy. Millions of new gun owners with a brand new AWESOME laser / light combo......Make the holsters people. The money is there to be made

[@kirksmith347]

I have over 7 olights different models all work great never had an issue.

[@HelenKellerDenier]

So stoked I bought one last night. Got it in the FDE too. Can't wait to get it! Putting a lot of work into my pistol right now and it'll really come together with this. Thank you!

[@yaboyel24]

$288 for a pistol light is crazy. I'll go with olight.

[@peternorth1721]

The O-light is nice especially for a gun youre not carrying in a holster. But the ability to replace a dead battery with a fresh battery is why the streamlight costs so much more. The O-light’s onboard battery will be toast in a few years where as the streamlight will run till you physically break the thing.

[@IanM-gj8lp]

Except you can just get the Baldr pro S. I believe that takes one AA or something of the sort. Only the R is rechargeable.

[@AkronKid330]

I bought 4 olight flashlights yesterday morning. Can't wait to receive them!

[@user-xs6hg7wz6j]

Lol same here got a bundle last night

[@user-xs6hg7wz6j]

This my 3rd purchase got them for my guns good stuff i wait whrn they got good deals

[@GW2964]

I just got the Pl Pro last week. Trying to convert my friends that own or want Streamlights. Im all about savings when there's quality and reviews have convinced me Olights the real deal. Waiting on my Baldr mini.

[@GW2964]

So, having terrible time finding holster for my CZP10F W/PL PRO. Did I hear you right, if it fits tlr1 it should fit Pl Pro Valkyrie?

[@AkronKid330]

@@GW2964 I get all mine tonight! From all the reviews and videos I've seen, I'm starting to think olight is the real deal. We will see from personal experience!

[@philipfreeman2863]

Well I'm a streamlight tlr8a guy myself. And as a retired federal law enforcement officer. The ability to change batteries are a must during operations were your operating in areas without access to electricity. And the tlr8s flex useing the low switch that was included. Made a good light a great light. Basically most lights of these types are chosen for personal and home protection. Both will accomplish their goals with the both lights. But in my experience the ability to change out batteries is important and worthwhile. Yes you have to pack extra batteries. But if you're on extended operations out in the middle of nowhere. You will really appreciate that feature. I also do carry two rechargeable flashlights. And I have two solar chargers to keep them powered up. And they are great lights. But for my weapons mounted lights including my streamlight protac HLX. I carry two rechargeable batteries to recharge and s third in the light. During day light unless there is a dimly lit or no light area that I might have to inspect. I've got two spare batteries for my rifle light. And several batteries for my pistol mounted light. Is one better than the other? Not really. It just boils down to your personal needs and preference.

[@brandonmacon3317]

Yep because unlike charging changing batteries is way faster and easier to do when your being shot at in the field?

[@mghegotagun]

@@brandonmacon3317 Still would be easier to change batteries in a protracted gunfight than find a working electrical outlet. That also applies to a sort of power grid down/shtf scenario where it's better to have some batteries on your person than to look for a working electrical outlet. As for my choice, I'd go with the baldr mini on a single stack/subcompact edc. It'll likely flush fit those much better too. I'd go with the tlr8a with a duty purpose/sized gun like a glock 19.

[@johnschmidt6089]

On the battery thing, so the Streamlight fans say they don't like the Olight because they don't like the rechargeable battery system? They want to be able to carry and use a spare battery? Well, so what? Given that the Olight is half the price of the Streamlight, and given that the Streamlight battery is almost as big as the entire light itself, and given that the Olight takes only seconds to install on the pistol, then buy two Olights for the same price as one Streamlight, put one Olight on the pistol, and carry the second Olight for backup, just like you would carry a spare battery for the Streamlight.

[@seacprogrammer8455]

I kind of agree. But my wifie has been screaming at me to stop pointing that gun around as I try to test how good the OLight longevity is, and thus far I only charged it once on a whim and she was Bright AF before I did that

[@shoefly757]

I mean what's the price difference between this and a streamlight or surefire? I know we always want to find a cheaper and better product, but why do that with something your life may depend on? Im not knocking anyone, I am the definition of it. But not when my life is on the line. I wouldn't buy a parachute from oChutes because some paid promotions said they were good, and they were cheaper than all the others. I'd buy the one used day in and day out and proven successful. The normal response to this is usually "my cousins sisters husband is a cop and his streamlight quit working". Every product has a failure rate, even parachutes. It's your money, I'm just trying to help others look at it from a different perspective. We can still be friends.

[@hardcore4476]

Just ordered the Baldr Mini last night and can’t wait to mount it up. It looked like the Olight was a smidge brighter at further distance and other one brighter on the ground at closer distance but pretty much the same. I’d rather pay the 90-140$ the 250-280$! A bit to much for such a little light.. I imagine there losing a lot of customers, being so expensive..

[@kendricke.534]

I'm guessing that you haven't looked at Surefire or Viridian lights. There are lots of people that don't buy anything other than those two.

[@KonaLife]

I have the TLR-8AG. It has adjustable back levers that are different than this guy reviewed. It is ten times better and more durable than any O-Light. I have the O-Light Mini2. It is like a plastic toy compared to the Streamlight line. Not sure why this dude didn’t review the adjustable version, instead of the older TLR-8G without the back lever switches.

[@hardcore4476]

Shawn that’s just insane price and no light should be more then 150$!! Now if I was rich no problem but damn you could buy a new or half a gun for that price...

[@kendricke.534]

@@hardcore4476 these aren't regular flashlights. They have to be able to withstand the abuse that comes along with being mounted on a firearm. Every shot fired is essentially the equivalent of dropping it on the ground.

[@hardcore4476]

I get that it’s just ridiculous price and what’s the warranty on those things lifetime I’d hope.. unless you lose it. Seriously though there losing a lot of business being so expensive. If they made them at 150$ each I’m sure there sales would double..

[@slimmszn6949]

So ima be honest . The olight is great for at home or the range . The more expensive battery operated ones are more for survival situations where u can have a bag full of batteries with out having to worry about charging places. Especially in power outages

[@TheCaptnHammer]

I love my olights. They get a lot of hate, but they have held up very well on my daily carry and my rifles. They have better features than the overpriced brands too. I love being able to change them magnetically. Thanks for the video.

[@Miniscapes515]

Lol. I had two Balders with laser. First one I bought it would not hold zero for the laser so they sent me another one and same thing. So I actually replaced it with TRL-8G and don't regret it a bit. I also don't think the battery run time is as long as advertised by Olight

[@SouthValleyKnifeCo]

Nothing is as olight advertises they lie and then pay schmucks like this for favorable reviews on shit that doesn't matter.

[@joeltowle2737]

I love the Olight mini's! I have two mini Valkrie 2's, i also have a little handheld flashlight. Great company.

[@MobileAura]

Wireless charging is the only way. I can buy 2-3 olight for the price of competitor, so the longevity argument doesn’t stand up. Sure I guess after 7+ years you’ll want to replace it but you’d want to upgrade anyways to a more efficient light.

[@tp6829]

I have an Olight Bolor Mini and it does not hold zero. There is so much I like about it I can't even begin to tell you BUT the fact that it doesn't hold zero, not good. You can wobble it from up and down on its mounting bracket tried tightening the screws, that is not the problem. I will definitely be sending it back.

[@ckim6400]

Do you have the right insert in? One is for Glocks the other for Pic Rails. It comes with Glock insert in place which is lose in a Pic Rail.

[@submissions72]

I have 5 Olights. Their presentation, customer support is absolutely top notch. I've had 0 issues with any of mine, I'd trust my life with it.

[@krithin19]

Hey, for the Olight, everywhere I read I keep getting told that after each shot, the green lazer is not "moves/not precise?" since the light somewhat moves a bit??? How true/noticable is this with your experience? Thank You! in advance!

[@submissions72]

@@krithin19 tbh..I don't use the laser for any sort of precise targeting I don't think anyone should. I have redots on all my handguns so I center my targeting on those. As far as the laser shifting, it's not that it can't happen I haven't noticed it enough or paid attention to it enough to bother me. I think lasers on rails arent that accurate overall. Hope that helps.

[@formdoggie5]

@@submissions72 lasers on rails are *EXTREMELY* accurate so long as the laser is correctly made and the rail is properly fitted to handguards that are properly mated to the receiver. Loss of accuracy comes from the adjustment screws being improperly sized or lacking a locking/ratcheting system, causing them to slip. Putting some basic Elmer's glue or thread locker and then zeroing to your preferred sight picture will resolve that. Some firearms are also inherently unable to utilize lasers because the mounting rail system is attached to handguards or frame that have/has slop/play. Any wiggle, deflection, bending, or warping due to deathgripping polymer or thinner metals adjacent will cause the laser to change your point of aim/point of impact. That all being said: the sloppiest hand rails on the sloppiest screwed laser will still be enough on target at 10-15ft if you're aiming center mass to ruin someone's day. That covers the longest distance down most hallways in 90% of the houses built in America. As a result, unless you're balling out in a mansion or some crazy long house style home: not really too much of a concern. Thus: would I trust the worst combo to make a headshot on someone holding my wife hostage? No. The worst combo at the end of a hallway shooting center mass? yes. Would I trust the excellent laser on my fantastic rifle to make a headshot on someone holding my wife hostage at the 100 yards to which it is zeroed? Yes. And just for reference: this is coming from someone that shot a 139 out of 140 on a Recon night rifle course while using a laser through a monocular shooting his rifle behind his back, behind his head, and between his legs to demonstrate why we use them (I'm an ex SF attached corpsman, with many years acting as a secondary RSO/RSI).

[@aldousorwell3807]

​@@krithin19I'm willing to bet that most people who claim that the lasers don't hold zero are unfamiliar with QD lever lock systems and didn't read the installation instructions. After you latch it down, there's a flathead screw on the other side of the unit that you can snug down before you dial in the laser sight.

[@GeezerWheels]

I've had my Baldr Mini / green laser for nearly a year now. (Also got the Valkerie, model, light only, no laser). Both are 600 lumens. The Baldr Mini is excellent for where I live in the woods of SW Colorado. I became a big fan of lasers here after bagging a porcupine late one night / locked forearms into my sides for stability and turned out his lights. For night critters the Balder is really hard to beat (we have repeated problems with skunks and raccoons (9 raccoons and 7 skunks in a 12 month period, NOT counting the ones that got away). I DO have the Baldr mini on a house gun and I'm totally happy with it. With training, I have learned to "find" the light/laser switch by feel rather quickly. But I leave both in the on position - I can ignore the laser if I wish, and my sights show up well against the bright light. By home defense pistol shoots 3 inch 30 yard groups, so even 40 - 50 yards is doable on raccoons, if I do my part. Thanks esp. for the measurement comparisons. My 2 Olights have been flawless.

[@xtrastrengthfukitol7733]

I live out in the boonies and my yard usually looks like a Disney movie, but can't say I've ever considered porcupines, skunks or raccoons a "problem." They mind their own and we do the same. Heck, raccoons rarely even make an appearance where people are present unless you're just leaving trash everywhere.

[@EricTheRed_4]

I have both the Baldr and the PL-Mini. Both are great lights. For the price and quality you cannot beat the Olight. Alot of Streamlight fanboys saying how much Olight is “trash” and “sucks”.. etc. obviously keyboard genius’s that have never used either.

[@jace-barton]

I have a solar powered portable power cell for charging devices, I do not have room for 100Ibs of disposable batteries. Olight is the easy decision of you don’t have an ego over brands

[@OrganicHispanic209]

Funny how everyone says "fuck that, it's made in China." The phone you just commented the vid on is made in China.

[@AKDisobey]

My guess is that chinese "mafos" (manufacturers on spec) are just so much faster and cheaper to deliver than their counterparts...thus "designed in USA- made in ch" ...make this happen is usa, I'll be the first in line 👍

[@bprotech71]

I specifically bought my phone, tv flashlights that were not made in China. Paid a little more but I don't want to support a country that is trying to undermine us

[@carlosdanger788]

Vietnam/India

[@lamegame420]

Korea. Get it right!

[@OrganicHispanic209]

@@lamegame420 Iphones are made in Zhengzhou, China, homeboy. Get it right.

[@brycekeeney4995]

Ordered 2 of the olight, anxiously awaiting the arrival on the 24th.

[@smacksmacksmack]

I personally like recharging, ya it's nice to be able to have a backup.. but like he said, treat it like phone, charge as needed.. I charge my lights after I use them or every 6 months.. olight is making affordable products that work for me 🤷‍♂️

[@outbackeddie]

Excellent comparison. The Streamlight laser seems a little brighter but it's a toss-up. My pew-pew would be happy with either one.

[@jasonfedeli]

Well one is a really good light, built well, and won’t explode. The other is an olight.

[@joehelvey5794]

Amen brother! The versatility is unmatched, Olight pl mini 2 and the Baldr mini are great lights in their own right to start with. I have quite a few lights, made a few mistakes along the way. I’ve never been disappointed in my Streamlight purchases, but I have never thought my money went real far either. Olight has me more than excited, they straight up just earned a new customer in myself. I’ll still review both before I buy, and holsters are everywhere FDO Tuxton Tactical Werks BlackPoint tactical all make decent holsters. Try recharging your tlr “anything”! End of story

[@NBWDOUGHBOY]

Ppl shit on Olight so much. I don't get it. It's cheaper, More lumens, More functionality. Say what you want. My Olights work great with warranty.

[@bornreadyproductions]

First comments on my EDC post in the glock sub Reddit is people enthusiastically shitting on my Olight. I’m baffled.

[@butchs2337]

my problem is it is made in China, i will do my best not to support a commie country if i can help it, yes i know so many things in our daily life are made in China, and i said i do my best when i know it is made in China not to buy China products, but sometimes you have no choice

[@jerseyltd]

IT EXPLODES 😂

[@jerseyltd]

@@butchs2337 off the record of them being a commi..but it explodes on you. Cant trust that shit if its going to save your life

[@Invertmini1212]

I’ve got the mini 2 Valkyrie and it’s been a great light! Cannot wait for my Baldr to come in

[@donjuan4925]

LOVE MY BALDR MINIs!! Got one on my G17 n one on my G26

[@bwax1542]

Great review. Great comparison. Thanks for being up front with what you receive from Olight. I have subbed, and wished I had known of your channel prior to me placing an order several days ago. My three Balder Minis and other stuff will be delivered on the 17th -shipping directly from mainland China! ! !

[@randicooke7453]

And the tlr does have a strobe feature you have to press down 10x to activate it

[@kruptcy4126]

This was a good function comparison, but functions only matter when a light is reliable and durable. Would be great if you'd include drop tests / push these lights to failure.

[@Gnolomweb]

Lazers are great for shooting when you can't poke your head out but still have vision.... under cars, around doors, etc

[@2bParagon]

sorry, the proprietary sealed rechargeable on the BALDR is a no go for me , I would rather have CR123's that are already in my bag or CR123R's for reuse. Jus sayin.

[@HarleyWood23]

Fair enough 👍🏻

[@M4jeff]

Very informative, thanks for taking the time to post this video. You are a scholar and a gentleman.

[@nightnday6675]

Not a fan of Olight but having green laser inside the reflector is genius.

[@jdwest4604]

Especially when you figure in the price! I’m glad I purchased the Olight, last night! Really good video! Be Safe!

[@absoluteresolution3822]

The laser on this light is just a plus. You shouldn’t rely on a laser for aiming. It can be a guide but usually when you put the hot spot of the light on the threat it will hit them within most close distance ranges. I have several Olight’s and use them often and haven’t had any issues. I do have steam light and Surefire in my dedicated duty use guns but I wouldn’t feel that I’m at a disadvantage if I had an Olight in them. They are an aggressive marketing company and I like Lucas from Trex arms who hates them but I disagree with him that this light isn’t trustworthy.

[@JODAORTA]

Very professional comparison. I'm using the link for the flash sale for sure!

[@victrahan5707]

So similar you would be crazy to spend so much more on the streamlight

[@Mordalo]

It's a no brainer, Olight. There is one additional reason. I have found that wit all the guns I have set up for myself and customers, the Olight has had less issues for the user and most importantly, has always held zero when taking off and putting back on. Just much simpler.

[@whiskeythrottleracing]

Excellent review. It's pathetic how we are abused by the word police. They have no shame and full deserve what they have coming. I am using the Olight Baldr and it is most excellent. It fits perfectly on the Austrian Twenty-Nine model daily carry.

[@dexterchenault2138]

Just got my baldr mini in the mail from it it on my glock 45 I love this thing.... night shooting as I type this lol

[@MusicMinisterJP7]

Tuff reviw, lol, but nice. I understand however. They both seem similar. But Hands down, I take the Baldr. I am actually considering the Baldr Olight Pro R 1350 Lumens for my P320 Full.

[@aldousorwell3807]

Do it! I've 2 Pro G's, and more than half a dozen other Weapon Lights and Flashlights from them that I've accumulated for over 5 years, and they have all performed flawlessly for me.👍 They have a Pro model that's Magnetically Rechargeable now too. ...But I've run out of guns with empty rails.😂

[@vuway-]

platform, rig, piece ,frame , model , arms , biscuit , all better synonyms than pew pew

[@shj2000]

Bought mine before seeing your vid. Sorry. Appreciate the comparison and info on the Baldr. I really didn't know much about them when I ordered.

[@GotYo6]

I think the Olight laser was more refined...smaller and sharp at longer distance. I give the magnetic charge a plus over a removanle battery. You can charge the olight from a PC or even a phone with an USB adapter. The price seals the deal!!

[@CookyCutter]

Good point, it depends on the application. For home defense you want to flood the entire room with a wide beam. Otherwise if you're shooting 20 or 40 yards down you'll want a more narrow beam.

[@XrayMike17plus1]

I've had 2 Baldr - S mini's for a couple years. Never a stumle. If they could make these duel-fuel it would help but would probably introduce failure points. Being unable to swap in a fresh battery in the field keeps these from being taken seriously. Good for night stand duty andr home defense.

[@IronChefBklyn]

I think having to use a replaceable battery in a rechargeable world is UNACCEPTABLE. The ONLY 2 times you know exactly how much is left is when it's FIRST installed and when it dies...the rest of the time is a crap shoot

[@XrayMike17plus1]

@IronChefBklyn Having to use replaceable yes, is bad. Being ABLE to use replacement batteries is critical for field units. That's why 'dual-fuel' is important. Those units can use rechargeable or throw-away batteries. A dead recharge-only unit like the Baldr Mini or Balder S is worthless in the field and relagates them to home defense or occasional use.

[@aldousorwell3807]

​@@XrayMike17plus1True, but nobody's carrying a Micro-Compact Pistol into Combat. ...But the Valkyrie Pro models have options available that take standard CR123's. The tail housing has a hatch that swings open for battery swaps. Get a rechargeable model for your CC/HD unit, and get a standard model to use on deployment. ...You've got *2* Light/Lasers, ...and you Still Saved 100 bucks.👍

[@erinnewman8900]

My mini baldr has markings for windage and elevation adjustments for the laser. Not sure why yours doesn't have it.

[@HarleyWood23]

Erin Newman Earliest batches didn’t. Glad they added it

[@stelonous]

I was hoping it would be a bit smaller. By the looks of it, my PL2mini holster will not allow it. However, I'm still horribly tempted. I love my Mini and a laser on a new version? Yes please.

[@HarleyWood23]

yeah, it's just a bit taller than the Mini-2. Won't fit those holsters. Thanks for watching.

[@Lawgive1234]

Thank you for this video, exactly what I was looking for. Great comparison, I’ll use your link just because of the time you took to help everyone make a decision. I’m going with the Streamlight only because I will not have access to recharge frequently and CR123A batteries will be easier. Both lights look awesome.

[@aldousorwell3807]

The OLights hold a charge forever, and I've never seen any signs of parasitic drain. I've had some of them sit or carried unused for months, and when I slap the charger on they show fully charged in under a minute.

[@Quitale-los-cocos]

Olights 👍 I have them on all of my pew pews, the price how they work you can’t go wrong

[@SouthValleyKnifeCo]

Holding it on for more than 30 seconds begs to differ

[@comegetyourjuice6370]

“Is that bad for the lens?” “Who knows” 😂😂

[@jasonbrady2765]

It appears that all of the olight items that I went to purchase were sold out at 8:07 EST. Seems kind of strange after all of the hype about this sale!!!

[@kmacradio]

Something fishy is going on. I tried to purchase at the very moment the sale supposedly started (at precisely 5:00 PM PST or 8:00 PM ET) It said that it was out of stock. Now that is impossible, to be out of stock literally within seconds of the sale start time. To paraphrase the brain dead Biden... come on man!

[@Rolexenforcer]

@@kmacradio I had the same issue but kept going back to the page and it worked, seems like their website got too much traffic, at the end i was able to grab 4.

[@KonaLife]

KMAC Radio Ever stop to think that it could be because they’re based in China? They make all of their crap there and send it to be distributed from their Georgia or other Southern state to make it seem like they’re American made. They’re not.

[@kmacradio]

@@KonaLife Yes, I'm aware that they're a Chinese based company and that all their products are manufactured in China. They have a video on KZbin touring the manufacturing facility in China. While I hate buying anything manufactured in China, (especially after they released COVID-19 upon the world) the U.S. made light/laser weapon combo's are several times the price of the Olight's and I think Olight's quality is pretty good. What REALLY irks me, is buying masks manufactured in China to try to prevent myself from contracting a deadly virus that the CHINESE created!

[@davidchrist428]

I have the olight...never failed me...The amount you paid for that other one was a ripoff....

[@CarveyKeitel]

I have a couple of Olight PL mini’s and a streamlight tlr7. I prefer the Olight. My 2¢

[@hikerbro3870]

It's not designed for combat. The rechargeable battery vs. one you can change is only a problem if you are planning to change batteries in the middle of a firefight. That's a bad plan.

[@TexZenMaster]

If the firefight lasts longer than the 30 minute runtime, then I'd imagine you'd be out of ammo as a civilian in public.

[@hikerbro3870]

@@TexZenMaster I certainly hope so! Good point.

[@dbelex]

Just put on your bump helmet light before going into Game Stop. Looser

[@enigmarocker]

Everyone please be aware there is a Streamlight TLR-8A and TLR-8AG that has improved switches and the overall shape and design are basically the same as the Streamlight shown in this video. With that said, even though I own the TLR-8AG, I'll definitely buy the Olight as a cheap beater backup for my backup pistol. OLight without a replaceable battery though? No thanks. Im not going to zero my laser on the Olight and have to keep removing it from the gun to charge it...nor am I going to keep my gun out or run long extension cords just to charge the OLight. Olight should have at least used a rechargeable CR123A cell in the light if they have such a huge integrated recharging fetish on their lights...at least then the user can swap the battery as needed. Thanks for this video! Great review! KZbin is scum for demonitizing these videos...that has to be unconstitutional to some degree and I hope there's a lawsuit in the works against Google for demonizing weapons videos.

[@k.williamelliott7969]

I don't want to get into a "your baby is ugly" debate over which of these lights is better but don't you have to dismount the TLR-8A so you can get to the battery cap clip to replace the battery? The Olight Baldr has the charging button on the bottom of the light, so no re-zero needed. Also, I am not a fan of the CR123 battery. Very expensive. More after market costs with the Streamlight. Yes, in full disclosure I just bought the Baldr mini because I did not want to shell out the cash for a Streamlight. Had it not been for the Olight size and combining a GREEN lazer in the light I was not ever going to be in the market for a pistol light. I am old school hold a flash light. My response was not for the purpose of debate just offering up some things to think about...

[@enigmarocker]

@@k.williamelliott7969 Hey friend! I do not disagree with you actually. Heres my thoughts/clarification on what I wrote: First off, yes I think this Olight os exceptional value overall for what you get; I dont deny that and the green laser is slick...for the price its very hard to say no. Regarding the Streamlight, you dont have to remove the TLR-8A from the pistol to change the battery. You simply unscrew the flashlight head in the front of the unit while its attached to the pistol to get to the battery. Also you can buy rechargeable CR123A batteries and carry several of them on you so that you can just swap them out when you need to, so in my opinion there is no loss there. In my kit I carry 4 CR123A batteries in a protective case, as backups because my rifle also uses a streamlight with two CR123A rechargeable batteries in it. Its a brilliant design! My point of the Baldr needing to re-zero is that im going to have to remove the light from my gun to recharge it every time (personally) because Im not going to run an extension cord into my gun safe to charge the light while its attached to the gun, and Im also not going to keep my pistol out on the table to charge it while I have kids around visitng, which is often in my home. If Olight wants to make the product better (in my opinion) they should install a removable CR123A rechargable battery or the like and they can STILL keep the magnetic charging cap on the unit for the users who like that form of charging...and other people like me can remove the CR123A or whatever battery they use and recharge it in a real recharging dock like I do with all my other batteries. Please note that I believe Olight does what Im describing on some of their regular flashlights where there is a removeable and rechargeable lithium battery inside AND it has the magnetic charging cap on it...if Olight did that with this pistol laser/light it would be SICK...if they did that I would buy 6 of them immediately for the rest of my pistols. Im not pooping on the Olight completely, I actually just ordered one of these olights to use as a backup on my beater pistol. I love having more than one light/laser setup because two is one and one is none. For me personally though, despite Streetlights obviously abusive costs (I hate that streamlight does not offer a low beam and high beam option to save on battery runtime), I like that streamlight has the strobe feature and the removable battery from the front via unscrewing the lens to get the battery out without losing zero, and their limited lifetime warranty...so their cost isnt completely a waste for me because theyve replaced stuff for me for free aside from shipping costs, and it was stuff that was a little beat up and 6 years old before. I hope you enjoy your new Olight! Im sure itll work well.

[@k.williamelliott7969]

@@enigmarocker All good and agree both lights make a lot of sense depending on your needs.

[@SSmoothS70]

@@enigmarocker Good feedback and good points. I agree, don't leave the gun out to charge if there are kids around. Some other thoughts: How often would you need to charge it? Once a month maybe? Some safes have electric in them so charging inside the safe is easy. If your safe doesn't have electric there are a ton portable power stations that would charge the Baldr. I did buy the Baldr, got it today and I love it so far. It's on my bedside gun, I can charge it while I sleep, I can charge it in my safe, I can charge it in my car if I want to. I see no issue with the battery part...yet.

[@SavageD1984]

I use the valkyrie 2 mini right now but thinking about switching to the baldr s mini so that I have a laser sight as well , I like olight products I have several flashlights and the one gn light and they all work great and are very affordable I actually like the rechargeable feature it keeps me from buying as many batteries I dont mind to plug it in ever week or so

[@benlastname6667]

I would trust streamlights long term name of long lasting products over a new company that isnt proven. Surefire or streamlight for pistols and cloud defense, modlite or arisaka for rifles for me please

[@jnwill081]

Just received my first Olight baldr mini green laser today for my canik tp9 sc.. so far so good for under $100

[@mmartinisgreat]

Stream light was a bit brighter I think.

[@chrisross1657]

Yeah, I was laughing at the video when he claimed he could not tell the difference. LOL !

[@c2dholla]

@@chrisross1657 olight had a hard hard while stream had more of a spread.

[@ThatGuyKappa]

O light built in batteries for general public use, cr2 battery models for duty use, sure fire x300 has the longest high mode running time so it all depends on use case scenarios, if I was an operator I’d go for stream light and sure fire, for home use o light keeping it simple

[@mig1nc]

Baldr Mini mount is definitely more flexible, but not as solid as the Streamlight. If you are using this for an aiming device, I think the Streamlight is better and more likely to hold zero from bumps and bruises.

[@kenvelen1402]

Run time on a charge/battery is an important factor for me and I am also of the "carry more batteries " school of thought

[@EltonL]

But where are you carrying them ? If you worked security I would get it, but for home protection and general use I think it’s fine . Also like he said we carry around a phone that needs to constantly be recharged it works fine . There are USB ports everywhere these days .

[@Bceltics112288]

I absolutely love the baldr mini I own 2 one with red dot and one with green. Both are amazing and I prefer the magnetic charger

[@bishop5537]

I have to give the edge to streamlight. I have one on my Ruger 57 and its the bomb.

[@7_0_sav5]

I have had 2 OLIGHT Baldr pros now. Sent in one for malfunctioning and the replacement is just as bad with some additional issues. Won’t be buying OLIGHT again. Streamlight or surefire are the leaders in weapon lights for a reason.

[@ezybutnoteasy6902]

I love my Olight PL Mini 2, I place it on the charger once per week to ensure I always have a good battery life. Convenience is what I always go for.

[@newyork8507]

Bobby Brady 5 year warranty and FYI ur beloved streamlights are only assembled in the us the parts are obtained from overseas 😂

[@jonathanrogers9961]

just don't forget, most rechargeable have a life of 500-1000 recharge before they are dead.

[@Espiritiv]

streamlight slightly better light, but not worth the extra $$. Id outfit 3 of my pew pews for the $$ using the olight

[@trey7911]

Got my streamlight tlr8ag for 210, baldr mini sells for 130...

[@SouthValleyKnifeCo]

Well you're stupid. Picking subpar equipment to save a few bucks. Peak poor.

[@TubeDeviant]

@@SouthValleyKnifeCo I've seen two of your posts here and you're the typical butthurt fanboy.. If you're saying that something is subpar, then state exactly what you're talking about and why.. along with evidence..

[@windsor64ful]

eBay, I got tlr8 for $89. New in the box.

[@cowboy7x]

Yep! Olight. No brainer. Love mine.

[@gavinmesserly]

Does the laser hold true over time? I'm having a hard time finding data on that.

[@kennethpritchard2230]

If you train with your pew pew regularly. The o light is a no brainer it's cheaper to buy and you aren't stuck buying expensive batteries. If you're worried about having to change your batteries just buy 2 baldr mini's. You can change to the other light before you can change the battery in the streamlight. Loved the review by the way. Keep it up.

[@JohnSoh]

That can't be right. Rechargeable lithium batteries are a dime a dozen. But what you can't buy are replacement proprietary batteries for this olight baldr mini. Li-ion batteries only last 300-500 cycles before degrading. So what are you going to do in 10 years when you need a new battery?

[@kennethpritchard2230]

@@JohnSoh your cheaper recharge batteries don't have quite the runtime. Maybe with two but not one. You may have different experience than me I'm not claiming you're wrong I'm just showing my experience. Most (rechargeables) that size I believe are around 500mAh. About a third of the runtime of a regular cr123.

[@kennethpritchard2230]

@@JohnSoh when my battery goes dead in ten years I'm going to buy another o light with the money I saved buying the first one.

[@byronbranch4645]

Pay attention folks. This is a prime example of smarter not harder!

[@JohnSoh]

@@kennethpritchard2230 That's fine. But then it's not cheaper then but you do get the latest model. But name brands will have higher re-sale value too so I don't necessarily think it's that much cheaper once you start thinking about it.

[@MyBeardBetter]

Just got my Baldr mini today and the laser adjustments are definitely on the side of mine. Not sure why yours is missing them but it definitely should be marked.

[@LeadMunitions]

Does the Streamlight come in FDE ish color..looking for a match for my 19x

[@TheCryptoman]

I got the Olight Baldr Mini limited edition and that new O pen 2 for 104 dollars on there Sale.. I was thinking i know you can switch out the batteries in the other light.. But the Baldr Mini is so inexpensive just buy two and switch them out when one runs out of power..

[@itzfreakinjamie]

Love the terminology and spelling of words in this video lol kudos. Watched the entire video. Very informative nonetheless.

[@Relic67]

Olight had me until the battery. I guarantee after a few years in the safe one will work and one will not.

[@trtcommunity9248]

Thanks for the review. Very helpful and told me just what I wanted to know, and then some. 👍 Just used your code too and ordered the Olight Baldr RL Mini.

[@chrissewell1608]

I already ordered my 3 Baldr Minis'. I have also seen a kydex holster design, that has a hole shaped, on the bottom, of the light. This allows the O-Light magnetic charger to attach and charge the light, while the pistol is safely inside it's holster!

[@HarleyWood23]

Don’t order the Werx holster. That “claw” is 3D printed and breaks off easily. Last Line of Defense makes a high quality one. That might be the one you’re referring to.

[@chrissewell1608]

@@HarleyWood23 I don't remember the company's name (I just bookmarked it on my computer!). But thanks for the info. All these lights and lasers are great, but getting a good, custom holster, is a pain. I am considering building, my own kydex holsters.

[@DedHedJosh]

Is that bad for the lens? I cringed so hard when you did that. As a photographer lasers are literally death. It doesn’t affect the lens but burns the censor instead. So if you are using a “real” camera that could be a costly mistake to make. For future reviews I wouldn’t shine directly into it. I’ve seen people ruin their cameras first time using it at concerts from this exact thing. The baldr is legit. I now have a pl pro, pl mini, and now the baldr mini. Also got one of the mega packs this time so I have most of everything in their lineup now.

[@ve7ked]

Maybe he was aiming at the KZbin "censor" that demonitizes his videos. His sensor though appears to take the brunt of this demonstration.

[@TZG32]

I have 3 olights the Baldr Pro. Baldr Mini, and the PL-Pro. I was unfortunate enough to get one of the 1st batches of the baldr mini to where the 2 part slide had some play in it. returned it and almost immediately got a different one back that is absolutely perfect. I love the PL-Pro specifically for my OWB holster and my Baldr Mini for IWB. never any other issues other than that. If im using something on my lead-lobber I need to be able to trust it with my life. I've also had lights that needed batteries and after awhile it becomes insanely expensive. That was another reason why I went with O-light.but all in all these two are very good lights. My only advice is before purchasing a light is make sure you can get a holster for your lead-lobber and light combo. ( I have Caniks and it was a fucking nightmare.)

[@Charles-tj8ol]

I just got a Canik tp9 elite combat and am shopping around for holsters with light combo options. Any suggestions? So far Legacy holsters seems promising

[@TZG32]

@@Charles-tj8ol there is a few out out there that I use and trust. Red X Armory. Rhino Concealment, and Minuteman Concealment. There is also a FB group Canik Fanatik there is LOADS of helpful info on t it. all about Caniks too.

[@briankrause8330]

Very good video , honestly probably the only video in watched all the way through

[@bladeboysfv5646]

As far as switch on TLR-8, there’s always the TLR-8A/8AG which has different switch

[@scottdangerfield3227]

One thing I've heard a few times is that the baldr has a static discharge rate that kills the battery while not in use... Can kill the battery in as little as two weeks just sitting apparently.

[@HarleyWood23]

that's false. I've had them sitting idle in my safe for months and they still have power

[@scottdangerfield3227]

@@HarleyWood23 I'm glad to hear that, I really was planning on getting the bldr mini until I heard that. So it's good to hear that dismissed

[@scottdangerfield3227]

@SilentDiablo I just bought the TLR8AG... it's $80 more and you get the something with a no questions asked warranty.

[@johnsavage8778]

I think that the O light appears to have a little broader view and deeper 0 then this dream light But is definite Lee would be worth getting one to try out

[@todayisforgotten]

The streamlight appears to have a brighter hotspot and larger flood along with a better beam and an overall larger spill. But, for 2-3x the price is it that much better than the olight? No.

[@HarleyWood23]

You might have a bad unit, or need to tighten the mount. Mine is rock solid. Did a 250 round test and it held perfectly.

[@HarleyWood23]

I published a video testing mine. I believe you that yours may have issues but when you drop the anecdotal “my friends also”, I don’t buy it. If it was that rampant, and Olight supposedly admitted it (which they would never), the forums and FB groups would be ablaze...and they’re not.

[@aazv23]

Awesome video. You just helped me with my decision.... Thank you

[@andreww4885]

Great Review! Ordered the Olight last Saturday....stoked to get it! 👍😝

[@mattbrodacki4980]

I switched to olight from surefire and like the controls on olight with downward light activation feels more natural since I’m usually pulling with my off hand and pushing with my trigger hand 🖐.

[@iaml8gend120]

Got my olight today .. fits on all my guns, I luv it

[@dmitriyk.7461]

I just got for my self the Streamlight TLR-8 with red laser at Sportsman Warehouse for $209

[@JeffreyNWhite]

The olight has very poor repeat accuracy. I contacted olight and they said their engineers are working to eliminate the 6 degrees of movement when attached to the rail. It comes from the light and mount being two different pieces.

[@JamesFisherfrilleddragons]

Love my baldr mini, I bought 2!

[@gavinmesserly]

Does the laser hold true over time? I'm having a hard time finding data on that.

[@darth-umbrex]

I have been looking at the balder for a bit now.

[@chezmoe2000]

people who actually use Olights love thier charging system.

[@chezmoe2000]

@Bobby Brady You can recharge it anywhere car, home, un the woods with a battery pack. if it fails olight will fix it and the battery is good for 50,000 recharges..

[@erinnewman8900]

@Bobby Brady dude you'd be in the same situation, time out gotta change my battery. Either way... I'm a civilian I don't need it like a police officer or military would so I'm pretty sure the battery will last my needs for many many years to come. If I were an officer I'd for sure go with the streamlight for battery changes alone. But for home defense or carry the olight and it's charging system is just fine. Plus I prefer the mounting system on these new mini's.

[@firmbiz94]

@Bobby Brady I guess after 5 years you can buy another one and still have money left over.. Ive just read alot of comments with you in them.. can tell this is important to you.

[@jonathanrogers9961]

I actually used my o-light. It took 12hrs to charge out of the box, not the 4-5 promised. what exactly am I supposed to love? oh and I made sure my charger had the correct output specs per the manual.

[@firmbiz94]

@@jonathanrogers9961 you may have an issue then.. I have never had it take more than maybe an hour but I am using a pretty high output charging plug.. I also didnt notice mine step down to a lower lumen after 45 seconds or whatever that ppl have mentioned..the good thing is we all have options and can buy whatever we want.. the biggest current downside to me of the Baldr mini is the lack of holsters

[@ApostolicITTech]

Great video!! Looking at getting a 'pew pew' light and I would go with the Olight even though I prefer the throw of the Streamlight. With the Olight sell and the purpose being home defense, there is not much of a comparison for me personally. I love the Olight charging since I already use rechargeable devices and love the buttons, attachment, and size better. Olight wins 9/10 points for me while Streamlight only wins one point from Olight.

[@pshycoghp]

whats that one point? the point the steamlight holds over olight. does it look better or something?

[@Greenmachine305]

The Streamlight is better for laser accuracy due to the fact that the Baldr Mini cannot hold vertical. The Mini mounting mechanism simply will not hold ridgidly. A Baldr Mini with a ridgid indexing mount would be perfect.

[@seacprogrammer8455]

not a fan of lazer prefer red dot

[@HeCoversMe]

The Baldr almost looks like the lower one third to one half of the illumination pattern is brighter than the upper portion of the beam when u illuminated the flag.

[@WheeledandWellArmed]

Informative review 👌 Just too big a gap between the two. I love the PL Mini just not a Laser guy except my shotgun.