Harriet Martineau & Gender Conflict Theory: Crash Course Sociology #8

[@storyspren]

Judging by the like to dislike ratio, this video's pretty controversial. For what? Describing what each wave of feminism is about?

Try to get an honest description of third wave feminism from a feminist who also happens to be in love with Authoritarianism, Collectivism and thus Marxism Good luck! She's doesn't have a shred of intellectual honesty which is the biggest problem

[@TeaRex]

Or a response to the oppression of women...

[@aaefvacce]

You've honestly shouldn't have asked when. You built yourself your own trap. Should have stuck with how.

[@TeaRex]

While I assume some are you cannot make such blanket statements and expect them to be accurate...

[@TeaRex]

Sources to these claims would be interesting, I don't think there was a lot of voting going on in feudalist Europe

[@alineplanello4726]

I imagine that people that see the crash course videos want to learn something. Right? I'm impressed by the number of individuals that actually don't wanna learn anything that is not what they wanna listen to. Guys, in case you didn't notice this is not an opinion video, it is history.

[@NotaWalrus1]

Saw the like-dislike ratio and braced for some patronizing speech that promotes all feminism indiscriminately, I got... an explanation of the history of feminist sociologists? What's the deal with that ratio?

[@justthecoolestdudeyo9446]

Any discussion of feminism that isn't "feminists are just dumb pigs who want to make men second-class citizens" gets an automatic downvote from certain people. Assholes, assholes downvoted it

[@amitherobyn5081]

Male Sentient Void what good things???????

[@alecrisser12]

Male Sentient Void Hitler only pretended to be a vegetarian to shape his public image. I see what you're saying, but that's a piss poor argument you gave.

[@alecrisser12]

Just the Coolest Dude Yo Well I hate to say it, but they're many feminists who fit that description.

[@alecrisser12]

Male Sentient Void Pretending to be something, and striving to be something without success are different things. I call myself an egalitarian, yet I don't pretend my opinions are objective. Realizing that one most strongly held beliefs are subjective, is the first step to correcting one's own bias in a never-ending attempt to be objective.

[@almeidajonathan42]

Seeing how a video about women fighting for their rights gets so many downvotes by a community that I once thought was supposedly educated is just sad.

[@RobMidder]

Jonathan Rocha there are a subgroup of subscribers whose whole reason for subscribing is to downvote and criticize anything related to women or minorities. It's a sad life they live

[@ktg619]

Its rather unfortunate

[@roelbalaraw]

"In Science, when human behavior enters the equation, things go nonlinear. That's why Physics is easy and Sociology is hard." -Neil deGrasse Tyson

[@MicahBuzanANIMATION]

Sociology has so much political bias it's hard to call it a Science.

[@oliverock4092]

@@MicahBuzanANIMATION Yeah? 😧 Okay buddy.

[@amadeojacohinde3630]

I study sociology, and yes is hard, mostly because of the high complexity of sociologist concepts and language, but definetly it's not harder than physics. Nothing like calculus and advanced maths used in relativity and quantum physics in sociology: those are subjetcs harder to grasp. With sociology, let´s say is just about "getting the jargen", to be honest. Too many abstraction and subjectivity over here, unlike hard sciences

[@TheEdwardAlchemist]

@@amadeojacohinde3630 It is a mistake to view sociology as a soft science. It's not political like the first commenter said, even though it can seem that way because of social conflict theory. It is a hard science. The conclusions and hypotheses are drawn from real data that held to a scientific standard.

[@sarmadtalib2427]

@@MicahBuzanANIMATION Maybe you just disagree with the science and so you dismiss the results as political.

[@treymedley]

I'm always so confused when people react so virulently to subjects like this. Especially when the title of the video should make it clear the video will be discussing gender theory, gendered approaches to sociology, and intersectionality. There's no bait and switch. (I mean, how dare an education video attempt to challenge embedded societal ideas that arise from patriarchal structures). Don't let the haters get you down. This was a dispassionate, largely unbiased approach to gender and gender conflict theory (and didn't even touch on the more thorny issues). Well done, Crash course.

[@Carols989]

i feel like some ppl just see a title with "gender" "feminism" or "race" and dislike the video without watching it

[@holdenmcgroin9687]

Totally. It was a great video. Dudes are like "feminism hurts my balls!!!!" It's not a zero-sum game, guys. There are enough rights to go around. Like education; if you have it, you can give it away and still keep yours.

[@Carols989]

sure is buddy, sure is... time to take a nap

[@Carols989]

right??? she didnt even say something amazingly revolutionary, but apparently just the good ol' maybe women deserve equal rights and gender roles are a Thing is apparently TOO MUCH

[@valerieblackwell5765]

Crusader Badtower CLEARLY I mean women have never done good things in history like Catherine the great, just ruined russia ya know? :^)

[@TheDansonT]

Yep, pretty much

[@Naruedyoh]

Do any of the downvoters understand de difference between explaining and endorsing?

[@kdoe1305]

Naruedyoh Nope. Bunch of retards.

[@TheIllestDubie]

Naruedyoh if you wanted to know, I think it isn't useful to use group identity at all. Crash Course is wasting time on Frankfurt school propaganda.

[@bartsfartandshart]

Yes. The woman in the video claims basically 'Hurr Hurr, everything was bad before feminism' as seen in with her adressing the oppertunity chances. Secondly, she adresses 'patriarchy' as for men only and there could be no such thing as a female patriarchy.

[@ArtificialDuality]

Of course! For example when you gloss over a topic, present only the worst case, then use the bandwagon to let the viewer know lot's of smart people don't like it... then move on to another thing that you present as the only other option.... You're a tad biased, and I'd even reasonably assume that you're *endorsing* that second thing in your false dichotomy.

[@fede22081]

I see nothing wrong with the both regarding this video

[@AyaMBayomi]

if there is something the mix of this course and the comments on its videos taught me is that some people don't know distinction between "recognizing other people's differences and respecting them" and "dealing with difference as a justification to hate and condescend them"

[@mikkicarr5717]

Why the dislikes? This was simply an unbiased video explaining feminism and the people who contributed to its theory. The presenter never expressed her opinion on it.

[@Xeth247]

I thought this video was going to make me angry. It didn't, even though I was nit-picking all the way through it. Awesome job crash course writers and editors! I'm sure you put a lot of time into making sure you had an accurate, and informative video. I commend you. Although, my nit-picking DID pick on something. It's something that rarely applies, but I understand that the feminist goal of equality would also oppose matriarchy as/if it occurs, as well as patriarchy. That's mostly because feminists tend to live in patriarchal societies. I would also like to thank for the note of mentioning women AND feminists as separate entities, because not all women are feminists, and not are feminists are women. Also, another thanks for talking about more than the gender stuff when talking about Martineau. It's valuable to know that there are female scholars who study more than just gender, as it brings them out of those ditches in all areas of study. We should spend time remembering people not just for their sex, but for what they did to contribute to their areas of study.

[@rowandebeaufort5193]

Male Sentient Void I am very curious who are you why do you make such hatefull comments

[@rowandebeaufort5193]

batman???????????????????????????????????

[@indubitablyzara]

~appreciates thoughtful comment~

[@ihartevil]

what needed to happen was not fall into the MRA trap about waves for there to be waves it means that feminism had to end so at what point in maya angelous life before she died did she stop fighting for equal rights for all

[@mustardsfire22]

Dear Nicole, Nick, Hank, John, and everyone else at Crash course. This is a fantastic video and one of the most deeply representative of the philosophy of the youngest generation of Americans. In fact, it's one of my favorite KZbin videos. Please disregard the toxic comments and keep making videos like this and do not sacrifice knowledge for likes. Sincerely best wishes, Me and (hopefully) the rest of Nerdfighteria.

[@rowandebeaufort5193]

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[@rredureis]

That´s a falacy!!! Everyone is not biologically identical, but you would not categorise men differently between then, as you would not categorise women differently between them, it´s just when they are in the same group that this idea that biological changes matters appers from nothing, thats funny isnt it? men are consider equal, women are consider equal, put all in the same place and everyone is different? Explain why? Why a Group of Men from all over the world have the same rights, roles in society and have biology ignored?

[@Sennith]

I sincerely doubt, that you comprehend the amount of different perspectives these dislikes are coming from. Implying, you likely assume it is all coming from one perspective.

[@zombiesurvivalattacktatics3943]

"please discard all valid criticism of a video that is full of feminist propaganda". There just translated your post for you.

[@margony6921]

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[@user-yw9mw9hv8o]

OMG, LISTEN FIRST, REFLECT. THEN CRITICIZE COSTRUCTIVELY. dont be so oversensitive, this is full of well-sereached facts, a very well produced video, omfg

[@Sackofbooks]

The most controversial thing in this video is the spelling of "labour" without a "u." Fight me.

[@SchiferlED]

THAT IS A PERFECTLY ACCEPTABLE WAY TO SPELL IT, BUT "LABOR" IS ALSO ACCEPTABLE.

[@Sackofbooks]

No, it is not.

[@SchiferlED]

Damn, you got me there.

[@istandwithjkrowling3098]

lol

[@James-pb7kr]

Yes.

[@hsbchsjajsjjccdohchhxhzjzj3195]

For those of you who do not understand, sociology does not further the disparity between groups; rather, it recognizes that over history until now society has created separate groups, the social statuses across them, being unequal. Yes, unequal. And with the inequality being so widespread among so many different groups, the groups become real on the basis that group members face inequalities unique to them; Blacks: segregation, Women: unequal pay, Veterans: lack of health resources, etc. Sociology, seeing this, hopes to remedy those social groups by recognizing the group differences in unequal treatment. If you dislike the video or sociology because if mentions these differences, then you do not care about equality, you ignore the problem and become it, thereby.

[@abhishekkumar3679]

Charles K. What if the problem is no longer relevant? What if it is based on wrong notions?

[@joesouthwell4080]

if sociology is seeking to "remedy" anything, then it's not a science. It's a cause.

[@bangboom123]

+Joe Southwell By that logic, medical research is a social justice movement.

[@xenoblad]

Good year tire disputes your claim of unequal pay. : P

[@pushpanjuli754]

Charles K. Ii

[@skykid]

Feminism really sets people off, even just a brief scholarly summary of it... well that's fine, people get offended by so many things, it's like you have to protect their feelings with every word you say publicly...

[@PreacherAtArrakeen]

I am grateful for one of my Sociology Profs for having Martineau in her syllabus. Hi Susan Hoecker-Drysdale, wherever you are!

[@victorc8944]

when people don't realize she's just stating one facet of Sociology and the whole series will cover other facets besides feminist theory 🙄

[@victoriaridgway2286]

The like to dislike ratio is insane! Thank you for making this video! Thank you for speaking so objectively!

[@JenHurler]

This was such a great and neutral way to break down a very complicated topic. Well done, Crash Course. : )

[@DoneDragon1]

im glad ive been watching this series, its taught me a lot about how our society works without giving into biasis. keep up the good work

[@VictoriaCaswell]

Harriet Martineau is from my hometown and it's cool to see her recognised! Elizabeth Fry is also from the same city and the first woman to campaign for Prison Reform, something Martineau was passionate about.

[@leocelente]

I don't understand. What is so controversial in this video?

[@BiPaganMan]

There are people who will dislike anything with "gender" in the title, add to that the people who only come to claim that sociology isn't a science (they think only the hard sciences count) and you'll be pilling up the dislikes and nasty comments

[@eneryi4457]

Because kids and manchilds that don't interact with woman and/or have no ability to think for themselves in an objective manner on some topics

[@bdk336]

There is quite a bit of controversy over third and fourth wave feminism which many people believe has some very unhealthy ideas and practices and which has a fair degree of influence in academic institutions, media and politics. Because she isn't really critiquing feminism and conflict theory/intersectionality some people see this as her promoting them. I'm reserving judgement until we get further into the series.

[@Carols989]

i've seen people criticizing (english is not my first language and im sleepy sorry) other waves of feminist, specially american ones cuz they tended to be very... well, racist, on the beginning. What do you think are some flaws of intersectional feminism?

[@TRAVisty_James]

phoenixkhost Straw Man fallacy: deliberately miss interpreting an argument in order to make it easier to attack. please explain how I fall under this category. I'll wait

[@garethdean6382]

Interesting, where can I see gender conflict theory in action? Ah.

[@pssurvivor]

Why so many downvotes?? People in the US might laugh off feminism, or hate its practitioners. But it's a truth that the vast majority of the world has and does benefit from at least examining it.

[@midnightsg]

This comment section is going to be great and everyone is going to get along just fine!

[@Papalovesleo]

midnightsg I sure do love a nice relaxing day where everyone can be happy on the internet

[@Chronically_ChiII]

midnightsg These garbage comments are getting so boring.

[@SwordSinensis]

G.G. Agreed. When did outrage get so boring?

[@lois7956]

I have good feelings about that young Ned Stark in Game of Thrones, he'll definitely rule the 7 kingdoms at the end :P

[@principetnomusic]

BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD! SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE! LET THE COMMENT SECTION BUUUUUURN!

[@tanukioh]

Imperios oy, ah you wun o' dem Korn gits? Das not propah orky! I'z gonna learn you da wayz o' Gork and Mork! WAAAAARRRGH!!!!

[@ilhamabdulhakim9554]

im gonna eat a khorne soup while scrolling trough the comments

[@theakbars98]

MILK FOR THE KHORNE FLAKES!

[@Yawgmothx]

BREAK THEIR BACKS!

[@DominickvdHoff]

I guess when you call white american women racist you get 50% dislikes on your video. She described 3rd wave feminism, said the quote nicely described it. It might be forward of me, but i assume she herself would identify as a feminist and thus agree with that 3rd wave feminist movement and it's statement. I don't know why you are defending someone who is ok with calling an entire race racist. Are whites that bad? What did i do? And what is with marx popping up everywhere? this seems like a huge underlying ideological issue that deserves its own video discussion with proponents and opponents. It seems the key pillar yet it's ignored completely.

[@divinearcher32]

The salt from this comment section will go perfectly with my popcorn

[@Crusender]

where i got the butter?

[@Chronically_ChiII]

Crusender From the fat feminist.

[@Sennith]

What kind of unearthly being eats their popcorn salty? You disgust me! Pfah

[@Chronically_ChiII]

Sennith Uhm.. Idk.. The majority of popcorn eaters? If you eat your popcorns with sugar then your moral sense is worse than ISIS'. If you spice it with something else non-sweet, then you are forgiven.

[@Sennith]

Honey! Thats what Popcorn is supposed to be coated in, you evil space alien demon from another dimension!

[@TheCowgirlgem]

Well done! I am always impressed by the way crash course succinctly explains big ideas and movements.

[@pigsnot1]

People who are disliking this video simply because it is conveying the concept of gender conflict need to seriously grow up. Even if you dislike the concept, it is still an idea that exists and is used by many people. Don't be mad at crash course for simply explaining what this concept is just because you disagree with the viewpoints of gender conflict theory. If you want to critique it, by all means do so, but don't get angry at the messengers

[@CherylMcMinorrr]

I've taken Sociology classes and obviously as aspect of that included feminism but I've never heard the name Harriet Martineau before... Or if I have only in passing so I've forgotten it rather than the amount of focus people like Marx and Durkheim get that I would never forget those names. Weird. Also keep it up! I'd only ever heard the word "feminist" mentioned in scornful way before I actually heard my Sociology tutors talk and learned for myself that it isn't a inherently awful word. Glad I didn't stand up in class, shout UNSUBBED and walk out before bothering to learn something :)

[@bro_what777]

Watching this for my sociology class, wonderful video

[@TheAnimeguy44]

HER GLASSES MATCH HER SHIRT YAAAS

[@avery-quinnmaddox5985]

This is education, pure and simple. This video shouldn't be a place for petty flame wars.

[@orenashkenazi9813]

Another fantastic video explaining both the roots of Gender Conflict and the importance of intersectionality.

[@orenashkenazi9813]

I'm curious to know if you say that because you don't think different forms of discrimination don't overlap, like sexism and racism might overlap for a black woman, or because you don't think any of those discrimination exist at all.

[@orenashkenazi9813]

So does that mean it's the second one? You don't think sexism, racism, or any of the prejudices commonly discussed as part of intersectionality exist, so a theory combining them doesn't make sense?

[@orenashkenazi9813]

So it isn't really intersectionality that you have a problem with. Internsectionality is just the idea that multiple times of discrimination can over lap. I'm guessing by your profile name that you believe that men suffer discrimination, and that white people suffer discrimination. In that case, intersectionality would refer to the overlapping discrimination faced by white men. None of that is true of course and you're living in a fantasy universe, but that fantasy still allows for intersectionality.

[@zombiesurvivalattacktatics3943]

If men can't suffer discrimination, why do they get longer prison sentences for the same crime?

[@orenashkenazi9813]

Nothing passive aggressive about it, Analyzing, my dude. You are clearly racist and misogynist, and I'm not trying to convince you to abandon those beliefs because it would be a waste of my time. You are in way to deep for anything I say to reach you on those fronts. I'm just trying to show you that your problem isn't actually with the idea of intersectionality. You clearly believe that multiple types of discrimination can overlap, it's just that you have chosen fictional ones rather than real ones.

[@QueerKidStuff]

Thanks for covering gender and feminism! This was AWESOME!

[@jamescarmody4713]

Agreed! Sociology makes so much sense, you just need to understand it.

[@jadzzzz]

I don't think that the people who disliked this video even watched it. It has about zero opinion, just definitions and history.

[@osaleh94]

Really enjoyed this episode, as usual! CC sociology and CC mythology are definetly competing with CC astronomy for my favourite. Simply loved this episode, especially how well you explained the 3 waves of feminism.

[@alinekelley7214]

Very agreeable way to discuss it. I think the reason people are so opposed to Intersectionality is caused by the assumption that it's extremely black and white when it comes to what provides advantages and hindrances especially in a way that feels completely devoid of nuance in the individual's experience. I don't think it's fair to say that without question one group always has an inherent privilege over another in every societal case. There's a myriad of possibilities and experiences, so Intersectionality should reflect that.

[@sociologyforallexams522]

i like the way you speck out ''the suck ''it is the anger of suppression.and atrocities of past.

[@Reiswaffel]

When discussing the waves of feminism, maybe add a disclaimer, that it is very much focused on the US feminist movement. The way it is now, it sounds like women suffrage started in the US.

[@incollectio]

How do you define "identity"? Specifically, I'm interested in two possible dimensions to be considered in the definition: a) Is "identity" one individual thing including many aspects (e.g. "my identity is a CIS-gendered white female etc.")? Or is "identity" one thing included in some larger whole (e.g. "my identities are CIS-gendered, white, and female etc.")? b) Does (or should) "identity" include biological categories (e.g. sex and skin color) as well as social categories (e.g. gender)? Concerning (a): If "identity" is the latter, can people not claim a potentially infinite number of identities, and that can be individually appealed to when any perceived inequalities between the large number of identities are discovered (and even if most of an individual’s identities might by some standards be privileged, it only takes one to identify as a "victim")? Or are there some boundaries to what can be an identity (to appeal to)? If "identity" is the former, this problem doesn't seem to follow (at least not as easily), as the one identity is a unique mixture of many things; some aspects socially perceived as positive, some negative, some neutral, and many of them moving, thus forming a dynamic aggregate. Concerning (b): If our identities include many things that are socially (if not individually) constructed, doesn't that especially imply that the first concern about (a) might follow? At least if some boundaries to what genders, for example, can be constructed, are not defined. And insofar as we identify with biological categories, that cannot change, how productive is that if the goal is to diminish the social problems based on biological categories? And furthermore: insofar as we have any group-affiliation categories in our identity (be those biological or social affiliations), are we not upholding said group-affiliations and thus possible group-conflict between them?

[@coquimarinero7246]

This was a pretty good video. I found it informative and will research further. It seems like this one was trying to a lot more information than prior videos, though. The topic may have benefitted from more than one video

[@goshapopov3393]

Thank you for sharing the truth, regardless of how people may feel about it.

[@freyanichuagain1211]

This was really well done, keep up the good work

[@LadyTaraJo]

This is the first time I've seen someone talk about these issues without using them as justification for being a huge jerk. Good job!

[@bioniclestef]

[sees title] I wish you good fortune in the wars to come.

[@jamescarmody4713]

I’m a white, male, heterosexual Irish-Slavic-American. My ancestors knew suffering, and I’m proud to descend from them!

[@MicahBuzanANIMATION]

Men and Women are different. This is a fact of biology. For most of human history we were hunter gatherers. Our evolutionary history has had a huge impact on behavior differences between men and women - no amount of social engineering is going to change our limbic systems or neurological sex differences.

[@Lordwakawaka]

This was an informative, well made, and accurate video. Frankly, the amount of sexism and just plain meaness in this comment section disgusts me. I expected better from the crash course viewers

[@Emmamake]

This video verbalised for me so many ideas that were floating about in my head. I now finally know what intersectionality is - thank you! 😁

[@rudyblock619]

I love the video, not many books or people talk about the declaration of sentiment... half the people here don't even have Degrees or went to college , so again thanks for the quick lesson on gender conflict theory.

[@spacebread501]

this comment section gonna be good. *grabs popcorn*

[@darrinkelly6891]

Jens Hans lol true XD

[@ianalvord3903]

You gonna share that popcorn?

[@puskajussi37]

Peanuts and lemonade, right here! Only 10 bucks for a combo!

[@tomgordon001]

Make space on that couch for me

[@darrinkelly6891]

Tom G same

[@SurjitSingh-xl2jh]

Gender and sex is very much connected. What roles sex takes in the society depends on it ability. Example Many people associate cooking with female but why most of the cook are male "why?" because men can work more without getting tired, men can work at night, men don't take maternity leave etc. Distinction without discrimination between the two sex is important for a healthy society.

[@CamelDance]

She defines her terms quite clearly, I like that. It's always important to define your terms, rather than use a word that can have many meanings and say 'but the meaning I use is the /real/ meaning!' as so many in the comment section appear to do.

[@grimtheghastly8878]

Definitely showing this to the social justice in at my school. They're gonna love it.

[@PixieLady45]

Thank you for discussing the waves of feminism. Great video!

[@LilLibben]

I'm confused at the dislike bar... nothing offensive was stated, all that was said was that peoples experiences are different depending on their class, race and gender and explaining what the waves of feminism are. There was no bias, no one saying how you should and shouldn't think, it was just a statement of facts. I'm genuinely confused by the ratio of likes to dislikes.

[@Mr0Ma]

There seems to be a false dichotomy here. Gender is either absolutely biologically determined or socially/culturally constructed. Both factors play part in complex relationships and ignoring any of them is wrong. Steven Pinker wrote a great book about this tendency to ignore one or another of these factors known as The Blank Slate: Modern Denial of Human Nature.

[@Lill0fD]

The like to dislike ratio is fascinating to me right now. Not once have you mentioned the gender issues at the time. I had to remember it all. In hindsight, it was a very damaging time for feminism in general and not because of the "not-a-real-feminist" argument people like myself hid behind to ignore actual issues. The media coverage was really damaging at the time, focusing on caricatures instead of the actual problems being presented. Truth is, men had a fear of matriarchy. Taking every word of feminism and the caricatures being presented and thinking of the motivations being a shift in power rather than a stabilization. I remember a lot of the arguments back then, and I will admit in embarrassment that I believed some of these people claiming that these feminists didn't aim for equality and were focusing on the wrong things. In a way they were right about focus on the wrong things, but that wasn't the feminists, it was the debunking narrative. Let's take the ban bossy situation for example. The focus in reaction was the sillyness of banning the word, and... yeah... the banning of the word is silly. In hindsight though, the ban bossy was trying to talk about the real problem women have to face of stereotypes and gender discrimination. The word itself wasn't the problem, but ignoring it was not a solution. There is a true problem where words are more harmful to a minority voice than to the privileged. I'm a white male, so I have the advantage of being able to laugh words away and not have to worry about my future. Us being called bossy is not something that can affect us, even in the most sensitive of levels. Meanwhile, as a small girl, being called bossy is something that does have more consequence as a female. That word does become a weapon and does push them down from being able to be stronger than they can be. If boys got called bossy and, let's say cried about it at home... it's more likely a father figure would describe the tears towards that as silly. The stereotypical boy would have some sort of support, even if it seems minor. You'd think a girl would have something similar at home, the only difference being gender. Without making assumptions, I'm just going to bring up that a nagging wife is a stereotype that is still presented in modern media. Yet that being said... at the time, that reality wasn't the focus. The focus was that some silly woman was doing something silly. The reaction was to shut it down, treating this problem with behavior therapy when it needed psychoanalyzing.

[@AB-eq9mm]

the thing about intersectionality is that eventually the intersection gets so small that you are the only one left in it.

[@ArleneIgwe]

* * That's the point. Different people come from different backgrounds with different experiences and different views.

[@AB-eq9mm]

Arlene Igwe im commenting more on the unnecessary use of class warfare language when really its individuals.

[@Pensnmusic]

We already had an individualist culture that promoted individual characteristics over the class or group distinctions of the past. We are now trying to emphasize the differences between groups in spite of that philosophy because somehow that will get us back to that philosophy, but better.

[@jamesharbor4893]

I await the day where we stand together as humanity. Not by race or gender or whatever the hell we do to seperate ourselves and others, but for now I'll just read the comments and hope for humanity to settle down.

[@Spoot1RHGL]

there wasn t really a lot to say about gender conflict as a sociological topic in this video. you just told us about the history and conext of the topic

[@lois7956]

Guys, as a girl who's not a feminist....this video isn't bad! It's a good video on Sociology, what's with the downvotes? This is why I drink, I swear

[@ylteylte]

This is such a coincidence. I am writing an essay for Critical Psychology, where I am kind of challenging the methodologies of mainstream Psychology, which led to inequalities in society. I am mainly focusing on gender and sexuality. I have to submit tomorrow morning and I am really stuck. Then suddenly I get a notification from KZbin about this. THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!!!

[@RaritytheDressmaker]

Methods in mainstream psychology lead to inequalities in society..? What?

[@ylteylte]

Josef Little maybe you should look at Critical Psychology, Philosophy and Anthropology.

[@hoptoads]

Modern psychology is dominated by feminists. So yes, modern psychology leads to inequality.

[@ylteylte]

hoptoads do you even know what feminism is? Based on this comment I assume you don't. And no, psychology is not dominated by feminists, unfortunately.

[@bdk336]

What wave of feminism are we talking about? If it's third or fourth I'd agree with you but not second.

[@NadiaG1998]

This video was smoothest of the whole series

[@starrnguyen]

*sips tea and waits for the shitstorm to approach*

[@wtblack5]

TACTICAL SALT, TAKE COVER!!! BEEE-DOOO BEEE-DOOO BEEE-DOOO

[@Eventhorizon1122]

Sips tea and waits for more posts instigating drama

[@mrmimeisfunny]

Great video. I have Asperger's Syndrome and i hope This Crash Course will be a way for me to understand society better.

[@Bubbleztoo]

What if this video is also a test to see how many people will downvote because it talks about feminism.

[@divinearcher32]

yo that's so meta

[@istandwithjkrowling3098]

+Jarful of piss And those two things are exactly the same? Is there any point in me trying to be logical here?

[@Chrome166]

Oh my god, I understand now. It's a new branch of sociology called meta-feminism, the study of people's reactions to information about feminism.

[@DabIMON]

Apparently over one third of all viewers... This is why we can't have nice things...

Ah feminism...Anyone who actually stands for equality opposes it "but muh dictionary definition!" I'd mention first and second wave as positive but the terrorists it bred that bombed public places and attempted to assassinate politicians. Second accomplished to give women rights men don't even have reproductive rights

[@minmax5]

Jesus christ why the thumbs down? this is simply an explaining of these concepts, not a declaration of their factuality.

[@AB-eq9mm]

5:44 yes, and we do see huge similarities that indicate that almost all of gender is based on sex.

[@Chrome166]

Hey that Intro to Sociology book on the table is the one I had in my high school Sociology class! :D

[@zeromailss]

I'm now loving sociology as much as psychology and philosophy

[@zeromailss]

and I can't understand why a lot of people don't

[@Farisss92]

Most are men or White people who can't fathom the amount of indirect oppression they have visited upon other people.

[@shroom2k]

The Crash Course on psychology was shite

[@gay5023]

He says, perpetuating the hate towards women he claims don't exist. Nice quandary, there, mate. Always lovely when people contradict themselves. Stupid people are endlessly entertaining.

[@gay5023]

No, however what you did say was that women are the most privileged and aren't oppressed. And then oppressed a woman. Funny how that works out.

[@andrewboddyspargo]

Excellent video. Keep it up!

[@elizabethcochrane8801]

Loved this video! Such a great explanation of feminist theory over the years!! :D

[@elliottprats1910]

My grand-grandmother came to America to go to college in 1917 (she was born and lived in Cuba) and her mother has also went to college. Maybe Catalan (my historic ancestry) culture is more free-thinking but I also think we had a lot of revisionist history or focus on only America/British history on the matter.

[@mullac1992]

I have a feeling that all the people saying "Unsubscribed" weren't subbed in the first place, but will come back next week to downvote anyway. What a way to live one's life, silencing scientific theories you don't agree with.

[@pramitbanerjee]

it is the kind of behaviour that promotes hatred and suffering, instead of tolerance and open mindedness. It is the reason we have polarization of thought and ideas. The world is infinite and gray, but the human intellect is small and simple, it must classify in simple manner. I will tell you this - i shall always be intellectually humble. Go to www.coursera.org and search for the course on intellectual humility.

[@Leon-le9cn]

"scientific" huehuehuehue good one

[@BennKay]

Very often sociology doesn't follow the scientific method. Bad science is everywhere

[@nickparisho5266]

Sociology is a soft science

[@aajjeee]

there is no silencing, the point is not to prevent people from hearing ideas, but that the position taken in the video deserves an unsubcribe (according to them). the only people i have seen actively silencing is ''feminists'' attempting do have MRA meeting cancelled or movies as the red pill not to be shown. I stand with both feminists and MRA btw, no issue should be neglected

[@uuuuuuuuuuuuuuaaaaa9]

I wonder why Harriet Martineau didn't get so much recognition....

[@claytongriffith8323]

When my essay due in two days is based on gender conflict and how it influenced women's voices in literature

[@holdenmcgroin9687]

Cool. What authors are you including?

[@claytongriffith8323]

***** Thanks for your advice but I'm good

[@herp_derpingson]

This video just describes the history. Why the dislikes?

[@oliverulrichsandoval]

ppl triggererd at the mere mention of the word gender

[@Tuckems]

Male Sentient Void no thats Feminazism

[@dittoma]

I know there's a lot of hate for this video for a controversial topic, and I don't wan't to help or hinder either side (probably 'cause I'm a Nihilist) but there's only one error I can truly point out: Feminism is *not* the opposite of Patriarchy, it's an opposite of the combination of Patriarchy *and* Matriarchy; egalitarian is the opposite of exceptionalism. A law abiding is not *the* opposite of a murderer, they're the opposite of thieves, murderers (etc.) Honestly, I *DO* believe feminism's true *aim* is for equal rights, but you're not helping your case by [essentially] saying "feminism doesn't fight against men for women's rights only" and then following up with "The polar opposite of equal rights for everyone is equal rights for men only" Honestly, apart from that, the video was pretty good Edit: Law-abiding citizen (Law abiding makes no sense :D )

[@valerieblackwell5765]

some people seem to automatically dislike this series and I legitimately can't understand why, I disagree with third wave feminism but they are educating about subjects of sociology and to an extent feminism, they aren't telling you to believe this or that, if they do then you can dislike the video if you so wish but you cant plug your ears and say "lalala" everytime somebody says something you dont wanna hear

[@katiewaters378]

Guys. Whoever disagrees with anything in this video doesn't realize that this is about as unbiased and objective as sociology can get. All of what's discussed in these videos are sociological theories, events in history, and simple vocabulary with some talking afterward to illustrate the new vocabulary. Look closely enough and you'll notice that there is no political agenda here, it only serves as proof that society is so polarized right now that people have difficulty even accepting truth as truth in this discipline as well as many other domains of modern society. If sex and gender are the same thing and both biologically determined, then why would the two different but similar concepts have different names? You're more than allowed think critically over how you feel about something, but if you just jump to conclusions and immediately reject something as falsehood or wrong, it's obvious you're missing the point of anything. I like to say that people aren't entitled to their own opinions, they are entitled to their own *EDUCATED & RESEARCHED* opinions.

[@AIVolkov]

The video was pretty neutral, but still got 40% of dislikes and rage in comments. Oh, well.

[@Dionysus24779]

*sees title* "This is a bad idea" *sees like/dislike ratio* "Ayep..." To be fair the video was fairly neutral, just explaining things.

[@steelsim]

There's definitely a difference between male and female brains. The liver and the brain perform two different functions, so that analogy doesn't quite work in the way it was intended. Reacting to male and female-specific hormones in fetal development and after birth will change the way the brain grows. Even outside of physical traits (of the body, not brain), these hormones affect the way an individual thinks, male or female. Even life experiences can physically change the way the brain is shaped. If more neurons are localized to a specific point in the brain, that is a physical difference as neurons are composed of matter. Now to what degree these experiences and traits can change an individual, is currently immeasurable. Without a proper method of measurement, we're making deductions from an unknown premise, which renders the question of the difference between male and female brains as unknown. Also, differences in male and female livers have been found in mice (see source below), which could suggest the same in humans. Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory. "Genetic Basis For Gender Differences In The Liver." ScienceDaily. ScienceDaily, 17 October 2003. .

[@Cultura2p0]

I am a little puzzled about the problem of celebrating Marx and ignoring Martineau. While now it is clear to me what was revolutionary in Marx, I didn't really get what was great about Martineau except vulgarization of other works.

[@The6thMessenger]

3:39 -- Should have been "Egalitarian", cause it's BS for it to be centric on women when it's supposed to be equal.

[@madeleinemackintosh1595]

Hi, it’s mostly centred in women because of the inequality that already exists, but the core definition does mean everyone (and I mean everyone regardless of social identity) being equal.

[@ARaeoflight]

I'm non-binary and support this video for more positive reasons than negative. People need to chill out and realise that this video is concerned with the gender pay gap which is an issue. Sure they made some mistakes but is talking about the inequality between males and females really offensive? I wish they'd raised inequality for non-cis people but oh well.

[@thesirenofwoods]

I don't understand why the shitstorm. I hope you learned that feminism does not equal man hating. But I guess not.

[@ycordero59]

Thank you for making this video!

[@FilmBuffBros]

SCIENCE > ideology LOGIC > rationale

[@bboythekidstudios]

If only most of the trolls in this comment section followed that philosophy.

[@bread1958]

feminism is ideology

[@lemonsavery]

Logic is rational, science was our attempt to create knowledge about the world from logic and evidence found from logic. Recently it's also been used as ideology to some people. Science is amazing, but people should understand why it's so great instead of just going along with it.

[@Chronically_ChiII]

Avery Lemons Just because scientists peer review doesn't mean the general public should. It would be actually way worse if they did.

[@gabbonoo]

the general public being able to peer review may up the standard while saturating and probably polarizing the loudest of us, making it overwhelming and boring. it may also call for a new system of higher standards after some time

[@HannaZafra_cute]

Hi CrashCourse! when are you gonna upload your next video about Max Weber? Is it about the bureaucracy?

[@Davao420]

omg, the thumbs down! hahaha! so fragile. this video was awesome.

[@tomstieve]

Great video!

[@Antenox]

864 people read the title and immediately disliked.

[@Crusender]

how do you know?

[@Antenox]

Because it *always* happens when any video on KZbin tries to discuss feminism in any serious matter. Anti-feminists and MRAs will flood it and spam the dislike button. It doesn't matter how level-headed or objective the discussion in the video, the behavior from the MRA cesspool is always predictable.

[@Chronically_ChiII]

Antenox Wow a basless statement. Let me try: 'All the likes come from people who saw the title and immediately liked.. Most of them are also in bad shape and blame the patriarchy for their own problems. ' How did I do?

[@cv4809]

Antenox Yup I confirm it

[@dandansen4261]

Antenox Personally I watched it before disliking it. Intellectual dishonesty should always be downvoted.

[@consciouscode8150]

Very well stated, apolitical, and yet delicately acknowledging and dodging the modern social issues plaguing "feminism" as an amorphous identity rather than "feminist theory" as a sociological subject. I actually understand "intersectionality" now, which before I thought was some vague notion that political movement had to involve all disadvantaged classes, but now realize it's more how our culture socializes us to have normative patterns of thought regarding people of different "classes". I disagree with the Marxist interpretation of an advantaged and disadvantaged class though, as I feel everyone is disadvantaged in some way by modern social structures.

[@holdenmcgroin9687]

Some commenters can't seem to get past the very mention of "gender" in the title. Glad you did! I believe this video is mostly focusing on the nature of society norms during Harriet Martineau's lifetime, not ours. A lot of those norms still exist in certain religions, social structures, households (including my own parents').

[@019KADESH]

If feminism is about equality of genders why it only has the etymology of one single gender? It should have another name. It would be like labeling "black-supporting" to mean "against racism" or "pro-poorism" to mean "the fight for equality among social classes" or "doggism" to mean "the movement and belief that all species of animals should be treated equally and respected and not eaten".

[@Ghaos]

Agreed. A true humanist would call it that, or adopt a similar that does not co-opt the one currently in use.

[@hallecute2]

Qalid Mocca The answer is quite obvious

[@hallecute2]

Qalid Mocca Men are not and have not been historically oppressed. Men did not widely fight for women's right either.

[@019KADESH]

+Jamie Bai that is NOT a justification to label a humanitarian movement with the name of a single sex. That leads to the opposite, now women oppresing men

[@pollysmith5943]

Well I don't know about other people, but I call it feminism because things that are feminine are often looked down on. For example, a woman may wear traditionally masculine clothes without anyone giving two damns, but if a man wears a dress, then it's something humiliating, degrading. Because why would you want to look feminine? As if femininity is less desirable than masculinity. I want femininity to be considered good, because it's an important part of our society. The things men are shamed for are ridiculous. It's also a nod to the feminists of the past, because their fight should be remembered. Anyway, I am a humanist, egalitarian whatever. But I am also a feminist, and these terms overlap as far as I'm concerned.

[@IBMboy]

I think criticism of feminism should start from here, a simple sociological review of the history of feminism. There's a lot to argue about, personally I disagree with feminist ideas but this video was as objective as it could from the sociological perspective.