'Harry and Meghan's choice of baby name feels quite cynical' | Palace Confidential

[@dgarzaart2000]

It was wrong to name the baby Lillibet, these two are just a train wreck.

[@chidebrown4420]

Name your kid what you want. Mind your own dysfunctional family

[@MariaPolov]

They are winning! God Blessed the whole family! I can't wait till her other book is released "A Face Without Freckles!" She wrote that one at age 13. She's smart, articulate, beautiful and blessed. I'm so glad she and Prince Harry met, now they thrive and flourish together and will raise two very well rounded loved and cherished children! That's why prayers around the world go up and blessings fall all over them! 💞🙏

[@pollyparrot8759]

Apparently the BBC never issue any statement attributed to the Palace without checking it three times for veracity and also no statement leaves the Palace without the Queen's knowledge. Add that to the fact that after Prince Philip died she asked that no one ever used the name again. Not to mention the fact that they trademarked the name and registered the domains 2 days before the baby was born .... who does that? Who merches their baby? There is no way they had the Queen's permission for this. I am sure that this is just a cynical attack on a newly widowed 95 year old woman.

[@geraldinemccormick8635]

Exactly, showing their true colours.

[@nocturnalowl5867]

I’m not sure they trademark her name at all but they did register a domain with her name on the day of birth and not two days before.

[@pollyparrot8759]

@@nocturnalowl5867 Sorry, I misread the original article, you're quite right they registered the domains on the day the baby was born but 2 days before they announced it.

[@nancyjohnson5483]

@@nocturnalowl5867 weird that is what they were thinking about on that special day-I think it strange the first name was not a tribute to Diana...cashing in is my gut feeling-I was really supporting her in the beginning but how the veil has lifted...

[@nocturnalowl5867]

@@pollyparrot8759 no bother Polly 🙏🙏

[@ferociousgumby]

I thought the birth of a new baby was supposed to be a source of happiness and joy, NOT LAWSUITS! They are practically planning to sue Harrys grandma.

[@MM-cf4uw]

Hasn't Harry shown his true colours! Still very immature, very chaotic. And quite selfish.

[@michelegraham9044]

@@MM-cf4uw I think you’re being very kind.

[@deanawilliams5895]

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[@lnewell1974]

No their suing the bbc because if it was a courtier who made this up, the Queen has nothing to do with it. I I really believe they have proof, and they have won all their lawsuits against news outlets reporting false information. And lets ne real they get off trashing The Sussex's because any news about them especially if you can make them look bad will definitely get everyones attention. Because the is a bullshit story. A beautiful baby was born and people are trying to tarnish this childs name. For goodness, theres a horse called Lilbet, and a American woman with the same name. Grow up people!

[@nocturnalowl5867]

@@lnewell1974 they won one case with ANL which is under appeal and the other two against Splash were settled before trial I believe. All for invasion of privacy and not for printing lies.

[@christybee9457]

Using their newborn baby to take a poke at the RF. What does that say about them as parents? They shouldn’t be anywhere near children, especially their own.

[@MM-cf4uw]

Such a low move, very calculating. And I think they've both said some concerning things about themselves and each other - it's clear by their actions and comments they are unstable and unsafe.

[@simpaticaism]

I agree it’s very concerning when you think how all this will impact on the children when they learn of it as they get older ! It really is quite dreadful !

[@supernova7848]

So much for not wanting to pass on “ genetic pain” 😂😂

[@deanawilliams5895]

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[@bukayomi1]

Her brother said Meghan shouldn't be allowed near kids. I see why.

[@moniquedawn5252]

Slander the royal family, monarchy and by default Her Majesty the Queen, then usurp her nickname for your child = "Bonkers"

[@chidebrown4420]

When do you last have conversation with the queen

[@TWROC96]

@@chidebrown4420 One does not need to have a conversation with the Queen to respect and care for her wellbeing.

[@photostockcanada]

Nasty not bonkers

[@moniquedawn5252]

@@photostockcanada correct, I was just using Harry's word, thus the quotation marks

[@voice-of-reason3076]

Whichever side of the Feud you are on, unforgiveness and vindictiveness are behind all the emotions apparent in the comments here. Unforgiveness will definitely us to he'll if we do not repent.

[@caroleknoles3205]

A good parent does not give their child a name that is fraught with ill feelings and bad publicity.

[@supernova7848]

Exactlyyyy

[@jojohn216]

A deliberate kick in the teeth,,, IMO. I am livid,,. 😠😠😠😠. God bless our Queen,. 💞

[@misstmemrs]

Maybe they are playing the big protector of their baby and no one better say one word against their child’s name. She deserves the queens name in their minds and they have a right. They might want to send a message they are for the monarchy and proud of it and the queen. They are truly not mentally well. People must be gentle. Set an example of trying to understand.

[@jojohn216]

@@misstmemrs I feel for our queen,,,, she has been through a tough time,, 95, still got duties to perform,, she deserves family support at this time in her life,,,,, not friction quarrels and hassle,,,,,, one thing after another with the ones that wanted a quiet life,,,, pull the other one as they say,,,🙃🙃🙃🙃.

[@ksdoswell]

@@jojohn216 WHY ARE YOU LIVID, WHEN THE QUEEN GAVE HER PERMISSION USE THE NAME.....YOU ARE CRAZY.

[@elainebines6803]

Isn't it odd how Harry said to James Corden don't call me haz that's reserved for my wife! Yet ok to take the queen's name

[@johnllewlyndavies222]

Hazbeen reserved for the rest of the nation.

[@simpaticaism]

Harry’s recollections VARY !

[@lindabarnes1806]

Very good point, Elaine. H&M sacrificed their own baby for passive aggressive arrogance and hatefulness toward the Queen.

[@michelegraham9044]

I didn’t know that. I think I’m the only one who refused to watch.

[@supernova7848]

@@michelegraham9044 you should watch it ! And see his blatant hypocrisy! He even lies to his friends

[@sarahhardcastle2433]

It’s a money making opportunity, who trademarks their babies name?

[@nathaliedufour3891]

NARCS do.

[@catherinepositano8544]

They do!

[@annefox6552]

People like Harry and his wife..These are the Kind of People who make money from their Children..Why do you think they had a Boy and a girl....

[@silviariver718]

The despicable duo

[@MrMmcdaid9]

@@annefox6552 - Well I hope they paid an equitable going rate for the deliveries of their boy & girl. respectively. Otherwise it would be sexual discrimination wouldn't it [yeah, I know - sue me ...].

[@littlebird4073]

Prayers for the Queen. She is clearly under siege by these two ingrates. I keep waiting for someone to stand up for her over there. Prayers from across the pond.

[@ksdoswell]

THE QUEEN IS OLD ENOUGH TO SPEAK UP HER DAMN SELF

[@mrsbenn1]

@@ksdoswell: Your are correct; that HMTQ is old however being a representative of her country (its people) and its Commonwealth she CANNOT and therefore WILL NOT publicly speak out and defend herself and these despicable twosome know it.

[@chidebrown4420]

When did you last have a Big Mac and a Coca-Cola with the queen? She told you this herself or you just letting your racist mind run amok down its own loony path?

[@allisonle8596]

Ingrates sounds about right

[@ksdoswell]

@@mrsbenn1 What makes them despicable???????

[@folklorestuff1743]

The media should boycott the use of Lilibet and simply use Lili. Lilibet belongs to Her Majesty The Queen and no one else.

[@michelegraham9044]

👏👏👏

[@MrMmcdaid9]

I thought they would've called it "The Queen" after their beloved Queen [I mean, they did ask, sort of ...].

[@geraldinemccormick8635]

Just call the kid Betty or dioria. End of.

[@chrissyballantyne4779]

Folklore Stuff that's what I would do.🙄

[@graceobey965]

BBC is evil, they did it to grandma of the baby lilibet now they going down this little innocent baby

[@MM-cf4uw]

They've done everything they can to merch their royal connections.

[@darlene6531]

And to upset the queen at the same time.

[@ca3in967]

They have. June 7th a kindle book launched in Lily’s name.. they marched her! They disgust me.

[@Marie-qt1zc]

@@ca3in967 immediatey merched her!

[@suee031]

A book about her astrological profile is on Kindle for $4.12 Canadian. I wonder if they will go after the author?

[@ca3in967]

@@suee031 the name is branded .. it may have a different author but the merchandise is theirs

[@elainebines6803]

Prince Philip said I only want lilibet here in room with me as he lay dying. The disrespect is insurmountable

[@chrissyballantyne4779]

@ Elaine Bines. That's the first time I've heard that probably me being in Australia but British born. 😪 How very sad. Those Markles are just pure evil 👹

[@whatever8250]

🥺🥺🥺🥺💔

[@clodiamk9873]

They are just despicable..

[@marys6800]

You reduced me to tears over that and I will never forgive that pair for being so desrespectful to HM, especially while she's in mourning. No wonder she left a note on his coffin and signed it Lilibet.

[@kerryendon7514]

Wow! I didn't know that. H&M are vile creatures! Karma is coming for them 😠

[@marianfrances3057]

The queen buried the name Lillibet with Prince Phillip

[@ivanabonacicdoric3448]

werry true💔

[@erikaayala8759]

I bet you the queen will prob never even meet that child, if anything maybe once if that. These kids are Meaghan’s future cash making machines. If women of color are sooooooooo important to Meaghan, why not name her daughter after her mother Doria?!? No, she chooses to name her Queen Elizabeth II’s nickname after trashing the monarchy. Meaghan is playing games and we all know the game she’s playing. She isn’t fooling the royal family or people with common sense.

[@EA-gl9oi]

Well said!!! 👏👏👏👏

[@stylefabwill]

Truer words have never been spoken. They're just so arrogant and rude, it's disturbing

[@lillysemineth1428]

nun, sie werden genau wissen, dass sie sich alles erlauben dürfen, weil H+ M vermutlich viele unangenehme Dinge über die Königlichen wissen?...warum sonst hätte H seine Vater brutal als bösartigen Vater in der Öffentlichkeit dargestellt, der ihm seine Kindheit und Jugend gestohlen hat?......auch sonst hätten die "Königin" und der Malteser Todschildbanker, schon lange entsprechende Schritte eingeleitet und ihnen und ihre und die eigenen Titel, abgenommen...Wer die Königlichen als Rassisten bezeichnet und seinen Vater der sich auch immer noch, Prinz nennen lässt, obwohl bereits seit 2020 die Insignien der Königin am Palst abgeschraubt worden sind und die Palastwache aus einer Puppe besteht,....die fehlende Krone der Königin haben sie damit begründet, dass sie ihr zu schwer geworden ist?

[@chidebrown4420]

What kind of evil bitter racist attack an infant? Sick

[@chidebrown4420]

I agree. It's rude and disturbing that these people in these comments think the kid's name is any of their business Certainly you all have your own family dysfunction to worry about

[@evelynvanzale4757]

@@chidebrown4420 - This isn't an 'attack' on an infant, it is righteous and entirely justifiable indignation that a couple of grifters are merching their royal connections within an inch of their lives! Why on earth do you feel compelled to bring 'racism' into this particular news item; oh yeah, it's because you are, no doubt, compelled to bring racism into absolutely everything; no matter how unrelated!! Anyone with a functioning brain can see where the 'sick' element lies here!!!

[@chidebrown4420]

@@evelynvanzale4757 Last I heard "The monarchy" was a public asset funded by tax dollars. Laments about profiting off of a public asset is as silly as people getting angry because a street vendor sold a Big Ben keychain Have you called the queen and seen if she's indignant? Is the queen indignant about a healthy great-granddaughter? Call her If the queen is indignant about a healthy granddaughter she would be a unique evil bitch in the universe of grandmothers It is impossible for me to conceive that a normal human grandmother with a heart would be anything but pleased. Indignant? You must come from a sad family if any grandmothers in your family could be indignant over a healthy granddaughter. But if you are satisfied in your position, that the queen is an evil bitch, I will let you own it since you apparently have called her and spoken with her Racism is a mental disorder

[@connie5768]

They purchased their domaine name well before they talked to the Queen. I don't believe a word these two say. And it's not such an American thing to do for most Americans. It's only the merchy celebrities who do this.

[@loupastoral8000]

H could probably informed the Queen, oh we registered her name as. . yes the like of H just informed and didnt ask permission. .wanna bet?

[@michaelpower4372]

Theres people Dieding from Covid in uk and all ye nut cases are worried about is a bleeding name how pathetic

[@derryg903]

The gentleman hit the nail on the head when he called the Harkles abusive.

[@meb8582]

Harry may have asked HMQ about using her name but didnt specify that it would be Lilibet and HMQ may have understood it to be that they were naming the child Elizabeth. Haz has misled and hoodwinked HMQ on several occasions.

[@supernova7848]

Just like he misled her about the Apple TV interview making her believe it was about injured veterans

[@Brandon-fv5sm]

Honestly, I can totally see Harry having an intimate conversation with the Queen and him saying if he ever had a daughter he would love to name her Lilibet. That seems plausible. He could be riding on the assumption that that conversation was him talking about using it. Course that would have been before he accused her of being an awful mother. 🥴

[@chidebrown4420]

So you were in on the zoom call? Did you record it?

[@JENNerationX]

Harry & Meg “we want privacy. Let’s brand our kids and speak on ANY platform that will give us more attention.”

[@chidebrown4420]

No they just wanted to be away from you racists.... Who demonstrate how evil you are by attacking an infant

[@harmonyharps4663]

@@chidebrown4420 RUBBISH

[@chidebrown4420]

@@harmonyharps4663 Sick people so jealous of an infant that they push this story They didn't get as animated about perv Andrew abusing girls

[@harmonyharps4663]

@@chidebrown4420 The issue in this instance is only about the royal court at Montecito. Stick to the subject in hand.

[@chidebrown4420]

@@harmonyharps4663 Yeah. Picking on an infant is more important than perv Prince But be it infant or teen, abusing underaged girls seems to be a new palace sport

[@TWROC96]

The lady in red is spot on with her comments-"cynical"! If they come back, they can stay at a motel- try Motel 6, "they'll keep the light on for them".

[@sherryaleshire9187]

😂😂😂 good one 😂😂😂

[@arabellabaldwin7764]

Yes, she is right on the money. If Harry actually has the courage to come back, he should stay in the Tower of London. Right next to the rack and the vat of boiling oil. But last I heard, he was flying in and out in one day. Are the Covid quarantine restrictions lifted?

[@cspence4836]

Hahaha ,and make sure do not disturb hang on the motel door! Lol

[@kathyescobedo461]

Own home??

[@Jesus22277]

Who cares about a name that is also used in other countries DID YOU PEOPLE KNOW THAT!

[@vanessagray8604]

No, other close family members did NOT call the Queen Lilibet. ONLY her parents, sister and Philip called her Lilibet.

[@jsemplefelton5348]

And Princess Margaret's children David and Sarah who call her Aunt Lilibet.

[@chidebrown4420]

Did you call the Queen and see what she thought about this?

[@vanessagray8604]

I believe it is on public record that when Philip died she said she did not want to be called that anymore……

[@chidebrown4420]

@@vanessagray8604 Well go on WhatsApp and give her a ring and see what her current position is it's everybody seems to know what the queen thinks. And then report back to us with some facts

[@evelynvanzale4757]

@@chidebrown4420 - You're straying from your specialist subject, Chide; i.e. 'racism'! Don't worry about it though since it's fair to say that we know exactly what your agenda is - the perpetual cycle of grievance and victimhood with a large dose of 'reparations' thrown in! Pathetic!!!

[@Iazzaboyce]

It's time the UK parliament removed Harry from the line of succession on the grounds his setting up of an adverse political principality is abdication of his Royal duty.

[@harmonys2102]

I'm in the US, therefore have no idea if this is how it works, but would be so relieved if this could happen. They are making a mockery of family/institution and in my opinion have forfeited any rights to it. If they wanted to remain part of the family and the UK, they should have thought a lot harder about that several bad decisions ago.

[@Iazzaboyce]

@@harmonys2102 In short, The Queen cannot remove a person from succession to the throne, however, parliament can. This happened with Edward VIII. Edward VIII went gracefully, but the legal process was going to be the same either way. 'Abdication' really just means failure to fulfil a duty.

[@Narlee2226]

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[@angelikakatarzynasazalas7904]

Yes, we must promote the petition!

[@Narlee2226]

@@angelikakatarzynasazalas7904 absolutely

[@deanawilliams5895]

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[@supernova7848]

It is not directed to the Parliament. If you want anything it should be done via Parliament seeing as the Queen doesn’t seem to give a toss about the general population. Asking The Drastic Duo to voluntarily hand in their titles ? 🤣🤣They are laughing all the way to the bank ! You would have to pry them out of her Sussex Claw

[@mrs.herculepoirot7763]

They should have named the baby "Cash Flow" as it is clear that is what they intend to use that poor baby for.

[@colinbatephotography.8440]

They should have named it Ka ching

[@ze_german2921]

You are spot on. Their next move will be Lilibet TM

[@ze_german2921]

Oh, I spoke to freaking soon, the have Done it! 🤦🏼‍♂️ Give it 6mos. Lilibet Babys clothing line avail soon at Target 🎯 You Can’t make this shit up.

[@rachelselby4329]

Sarah is spot on. With every move, H&M's sole agenda seems to be oneupmanship over the Royal family. Except that their lack of subtlety will be their ultimate downfall.

[@kittensrcuter7810]

H & M know that the Queen is a woman of great discretion and dignity. With the Queen being the only one that can validate H & M’s claims of getting her permission-they know she is likely to acquiesce to save more negative press. She’s 95 and grieving for goodness sake! This is intentional and they are going to merch this name, something that the Queen would NEVER want!

[@keithburrett]

It’s obvious that the Queen wouldn’t have give them permission. They have no respect for anyone and done this as another stab at the Queen to cause emotional pain.

[@chidebrown4420]

Obvious? You had tea and biscuits when the queen when? She told you this out of her own mouth? Or you just letting your own racist mind run its own way?

[@keithburrett]

@@chidebrown4420 obviously you are a complete ignoramus or very childish for making such a stupid comment. Unfortunately there idiots on social media who haven’t the brains to make an intelligent reply and you could be one of them.

[@mlouise1828]

I feel sorry for the two kids, when some children tease them in the future about their names that were stolen from prince George ( Archie) and Lilibeth from the queen.😬

[@DCo923]

Don't feel sorry for the kids, seriously? Like they are going to starve or something? Please they will be fine, they will just think they have crappy parents when they grow up, HMMM Maybe H&M will get back what they gave!

[@cspence4836]

Yes, kids are kids. They will make fun! But the Sessexes will again going to sue and get rich on the way! Lol. They are good at sueing.

[@kathyescobedo461]

Didn’t know Archie came from George??

[@chidebrown4420]

I feel sorry for your children (Period)

[@lynw1623]

@@kathyescobedo461 It was the name Prince George was taught to say to a stranger who asks what his name is.

[@michellechalmers8753]

I think the saddest part is that this comes on the heels of Prince Philip's death. He affectionately called HM 'Lilibet' and 'Cabbage' and anyone with half a heartbeat would understand that the Queen now cherishes the 'Lilibet' nickname as an intimate memento of her life with her late beloved husband. To appropriate that memento and then actually trademark it for presumably financial gain is so crass that it boggles the brain. So the trouble with the Sussexes is that now we have so many examples of their off-putting behavior, there can no longer be speculation that it is all somehow unintentional. There is malice at work in their machinations and a rather relentless malice at that.

[@chidebrown4420]

The saddest part is you people don't realize how deep your racism is That is unless you have had recent tea with the queen you're just making up the most evil stuff to attack an infant

[@villebunch]

Spot on analyzed!

[@harmonyharps4663]

Considering they consider the RF a prison from which they needed to "escape", one does wonder why they would then name any child of theirs after those who imprisoned them. Who other than M&H would licence their child's name.?

[@whatever8250]

Correct. Gluttonous sociopath.

[@LizRealGirlBeauty]

And do they ever intend to bring either child to the UK again? Why name the baby after a living person you have no intention of ever allowing to hold it?

[@mayajrj]

@@LizRealGirlBeauty I don't think any of the RF are holding their breath about seeing them. Not worth holding for.

[@kathyescobedo461]

His grandmother???

[@chidebrown4420]

One wonders why it's any of your business I am sure you have enough dysfunction in your own family to worry about

[@realitycheck4842]

Nothing odd about it. They are already merching the name with mugs, t-shirts, and other tacky items on-line. They delayed the announcement until they could obtain ownership of the name. Just when you think they can’t sink any lower, they do. Shameful.

[@susanmcintyre1037]

yep absolutely shameful.

[@drolgagraham2300]

harry and she cannot oen or license this name. It is under INTERNATIONAL COPYRIGHT LAW.

[@realitycheck4842]

@Marilyn Monroe I don’t know about Amazon in the UK, but in the US, if you type in Lilibet clothing, or Lilibet mugs, they will show you a variety of items. Some have the Queen’s picture on them. So, don’t call someone a liar until you thoroughly do your homework.

[@realitycheck4842]

@Marilyn Monroe I

[@realitycheck4842]

@Marilyn Monroe The problem isn’t with the Diana part, it’s the Lilibet part. Don’t think Native Americans would put the Queen’s picture on their merchandise. It was the domain of Lilibet that was registered the weekend her mother gave birth to her. They’ve known and have planned on a girl for some time as part of the master plan, so it’s entirely possible it’s them doing it.

[@fddooley1]

Listen to your gut. Truly this is totally a disgusting act by those wretched money grubbers.

[@chidebrown4420]

When did you last week with the queen?

[@evelynvanzale4757]

@@chidebrown4420 - 'week with the queen'!!!

[@chidebrown4420]

@@evelynvanzale4757 **speak When was your last chat? Since you know her sentiment She's a grown woman I'm surprised she has all these people speaking for her on such an intimate family matter

[@fddooley1]

Chide Brown When you understand that actions over a reasonable time frame SPEAK volumes then an understanding of character. Is clear.

[@chidebrown4420]

@@fddooley1 Yes I have seen the actions of the staff in leaking nonsense stores to the media So those actions speak to their racist motives

[@davidhoward5392]

Naming the little girl with the queens pet name, they have shackled this poor girl, with a life time of attention. Genetically passing there pain on?

[@ForzaPulls]

Watch Lady C analysis on the babies name, she described it with sheer elegance

[@sammyrichardson7305]

Regardless if they asked the Queen or not. Why would you even think of using someone in the families pet name. Could you imagine if the Queen had she she would rather they didn’t,it would have been the next thing to shame the family on a interview. “We really tried to make a mends but they even refused the name” that are so shameless.

[@kathyescobedo461]

It’s a name WTF? Should they have named her carrot or apple😂😂😂

[@sammyrichardson7305]

If carrot or Apple was a family pet name of a person in the family that they disliked so much, then NO,they should name their child Carrot or Apple. Just my opinion.

[@kathyescobedo461]

@@sammyrichardson7305 I doubt he hates his grandmother😊

[@sammyrichardson7305]

I very much doubt he hates his Grandmother but you can’t also say it was respectful to shout from the rooftops and air your dirty laundry. I am sorry but I haven’t spoken with my mother for years but I would never shout about it for the world to hear. I can not imagine for one minute it would help me or my mother in any way what so ever. Even worse I can’t imagine doing that and think it would have no repercussions. There is nothing to gain from doing what he has done. A therapist would never say go and tell the whole world what problems you are having. It doesn’t seem to be helping in any way, if it was, we would not be having this conversation. The only thing I personally see it doing is keeping them in the spotlight and on every front page for the wrong reasons. These are just my opinions and I respect yours

[@kathyescobedo461]

@@sammyrichardson7305 I have not heard anything he has not expressed since a young boy? She shoul be resigned to how he has felt for YEARS😂😂

[@kerryendon7514]

The lady in the red top is spot on! I agree with everything she said. Very good!

[@colleensullivan7377]

Harry looks such an angry sulk of a man

[@rupinderh01]

Daily Mail, please would you do a poll to show the Queen how much we support her over Meghan . I really feel she needs the British public's support regarding the abuse she has suffered by H&M over the past year ,as your speaker said.

[@chidebrown4420]

You don't know if she suffered or not have you spoken with her recently?

[@carolewilson7353]

They also stole George's nickname as when people asked George his name he said it was Archie when he was younger .

[@supernova7848]

Exactlyyyy!!!!

[@supernova7848]

It was Prince George’s security code name! They are despicable for doing that to a little boy .

[@maaiker2977]

Thats cause its not about the name nor the kid. It was done to upset Catherine/William. The narc likes to hurt your feelings to feel like she can control you. Its all about the narcs ego and need to dominate. They weaponized their daughter to hurt the queen and Catherine (like she did in the Oprah interview). Just like she used her dress fitting to hurt Charlotte and Catherine. And had her friend make up cheating rumours about William. It all has the same goal coming from the same source of this nastiness. Its what these personality disorders do. They create drama situations attacking others and then playing the victim. Best thing they can do is cut them off 100% and ignore them. Yes they will keep screaming for attention....but that way they can't blame you. And they have nothing but their connections. Without that they will rot in obscurity.

[@maaiker2977]

@Marilyn Monroe Suuuuure he did. Narcs love to revise history to suit their narrative. Unfortunately people have memories and sometimes its on tape. Like archie's first word was crocodile....now its grandma diana. A baby can't speak those words. Who do you think you are fooling. No one believes that liar anymore. He has 0 credibility left at this point.

[@LizRealGirlBeauty]

@@maaiker2977 just like "we ALWAYS wanted a total break from the RF because they're horrible and toxic and abusive!... ... no, ignore what we said in 2020 about wanting to still do the events we chose and being 'part-time royals,' that never happened! We always wanted fully out!" Either they were lying then, or they are lying now. Which is it? Either way, they're liars. The sugars can't excuse out of it.

[@questioneverything-rf3yf]

I think naming her Wallis would have whipped up less controversy. Gag order these two already.

[@chidebrown4420]

Racist will find controversy if Meghan Markle blink the eye or scratched her nose

[@malcolmjohnson4414]

Weaponising their own children. What a vile pair.

[@chidebrown4420]

It is you racist who weaponized a child who does that You're also saying that unlike every other loving grandparent on the face of the Earth who would be flattered, Queen Elizabeth is a heartless bitch insulted that her great-grandchild has her name

[@f.e.mccole8094]

@@chidebrown4420 Nobody knows the Queen's reaction, but we sure know the English public's. In America, it is the highest honor. I guess in England, it is an insult. Go figure.

[@chidebrown4420]

@@f.e.mccole8094 The English public are suckers for supporting that welfare family anyway Living off the public dole At least Harry and megs decided to break away and make some money in the private sector and not just suck off the government tit Speaking of outrage, how's that perverted Prince that likes young underage girls? With Jeffrey Epstein

[@yvonnefurze86]

@@chidebrown4420 The queen's a heartless bitch? Childish comment lol

[@chidebrown4420]

@@yvonnefurze86 You are the ones saying she's heartless Because I don't know of a human grandmother who would be offended at their great grandchild having their name not on this side of hell A grandmother offended? Especially with regard to a great grandDAUGHTER If you're correct then that makes her heartless bitch

[@catherinepositano8544]

This is a payback for the Sussex Royal refusal!...this is what it is...Despicable!

[@supernova7848]

So childish!!!

[@janetdelarosa2472]

It is clear that this is intended to cause as much pain as is possible, to our Queen. These two are the lowest of the low.

[@clairedavies4252]

Not really about the name but how can Harry & megan be so horrible to Queen when she had lost her husband to then name baby after her, shame on them. Feel so sorry for Queen dont need this at her age an what she has gone through

[@chidebrown4420]

So when did you last have tea with the queen that you know all this inside information? Or just letting your racist imagination run wild?

[@clairedavies4252]

@@chidebrown4420 sense tells me an everyone else an don't start with the racist shouts. I did like H&M but no more as they lie an i dont like lies ok 😘😂😂

[@chidebrown4420]

@@clairedavies4252 Not sure what lie you're talking about but it's funny to me that people are more insulted by trivial things than the fact that the couple says there was racism in the family That there was a "concern" about what shade their son would be. Now were there just "curiosity" that would be one thing But they clarified it was NOT mere curiosity. It was expressed as "concern" Concern about an unborn baby's color is racist no matter how you slice it And if you are NOT concerned about that "concern", I don't know what to say People feigning offense at a baby's name but indifferent about racism It helps to have brown people in some of these panels like the one that called out the obsessed racist Piers Morgan... Who is still mad and offended that a brown woman rejected his wrinkled fat ass for a prince

[@clairedavies4252]

@@chidebrown4420 lied about when they got married i could go on. RF not racist, they welcomed her into the family. H&M should have sorted it out with the family not in public eye. Brought all this on themselves. They left RF an wanted us to still pay for ther security how cheeky tho. Huh

[@chidebrown4420]

@@clairedavies4252 That is the most silly of the silly accusations if one is objective The racists are not objective however No one said that there was not A ceremony before the OFFICIAL ceremony. But under the law, the wedding wasn't official until it was official So if there was a personal ceremony that the couple considered to be THEIR heart to heart ceremony, there was no lie You need to make it a lie in order for your racism to triumph

[@cdcotr]

Good point about the relationship between the Harkles and the RF being abusive esp since the RF cannot and will not really fight back.

[@evelynvanzale4757]

cdcotr - Nothing to worry about since the Harkles are hoisting themselves with their own petard!!

[@simpaticaism]

How is this all going to impact on the children when they are older , the parents who think themselves gods are mindless of their children ! Somehow I doubt security would allow calls from Harry to the Queen to go through without being recorded , I don’t think anyone at the palace would want memories to vary again from that quarter ! The palace has not retracted the information given to the BBC to report on , so one must assume the information stands. I feel desperately sad for the Queen at this very personally sad time in her life , it would be too much for someone half her age to cope with. This never ending incredibly nasty drama is not a family feud , it is a couple who have been bitterly attacking their family because their unrealistic demands had been denied , their breeches of protocol reigned in , all of the lies and attacks are based on revenge. The couple are out of control !

[@veraghaly8321]

Harry did not even stay to attend his Grandmother’s birthday .. I think if their intentions to soften the relationship.. just say sorry. The simple & easy way if it is genuine.. but the queen is not in this equation. Other obvious interests took over..And they can not hide it..😂😂😂

[@margaretdavis8207]

Whether the Queen was asked or not, doesn't get away from the Hypocrisy that they trashed the Queen and the Royal family, and then to disrespect Princess Diana too, and them to name their child after them, I find it a disgrace and a further shame for the Royals and what they have done to their children, they are never going to live the disgrace down, what their wicked nasty parents have done.

[@marymary1888]

I’m surprised the didn’t call her Oprah

[@angelikakatarzynasazalas7904]

I bet Oprah said ..no way ! Only I make money out if my name .

[@rayskinner742]

Why not tell O she doesn't own the name Oprah

[@deanawilliams5895]

De-bunking Harry and Megan lies | The Me You Can’t See debunking | Harry and Megan truth kzbin.info/www/bejne/q4S6hGachrurbqM kzbin.info/www/bejne/pnalkIKkoKqDl9U

[@arabellabaldwin7764]

@@rayskinner742 LOL 👏👏👏

[@wilmareed1931]

Or Harpo

[@kirstyjarvis4976]

That poor wee baby has got to live with all this, for the rest of her life! Maybe she will change her name when she gets older.

[@tondamccarthy6537]

Cant merch Doria. That is why. Why attack the Queen while she is grieving?

[@chidebrown4420]

Sounds like a bad case of sour grapes to me

[@danapnmk]

so right.

[@pinaytravelsinuk5852]

Such hypocrisy.. I really hope they will be stripped of their royal titles..

[@annalucinda8273]

Excellent summation from Sarah Vine. 'Arrogant, presumptuous, entitled'. Precisely.

[@ladybug160]

There is a very big difference in naming their baby " after the Queen" - one would expect another Elizabeth. However, to name the baby after the Queen's personal pet name, is another thing altogether. Lilibet is not the Queen's Christian name. I personally don't think naming their daughter Lilibet is in any way appropriate.

[@chidebrown4420]

How is that your business? Have you spoken with a queen about this?

[@ladybug160]

@@chidebrown4420 I don't feel I need to speak to the Queen in order to give my personal feeling on what is already being publicised. They are my own feeling on the matter. Naming any child after a relative by using the full Christian name is quite different to naming a child after a relative's personal pet name. It is just that, a personal pet name, and it should respected as such.

[@chidebrown4420]

@@ladybug160 Okay so just I'm glad you're admitting you're just full of it Unless you call the Queen you're just making up stuff that's in alignment with your own racist assumptions But try reading your Bible rather than meddling in their dysfunctional family Focus on your own dysfunction

[@ladybug160]

@@chidebrown4420You don't know what colour I am, yet you feel it necessary to call me a racist. Now I am laughing at how wrong you are on that 😂😂😂

[@chidebrown4420]

@@ladybug160 Since bleaching cream sales are strong around the brown world it matters not what race you are Hell, even Donald Trump had some people of color working for him as he worked like hell to make sure brown people couldn't vote

[@jakkirivers3505]

They did call her princess on GoDaddy and Archie is Prince. listed 6 DAYS BEFORE birth.

[@charm8167]

I am sick of these two fools. It’s those children I only feel for. Adults can fight their own battles.

[@DCo923]

Are you serious?? OMG, Charles should just let William become King to avoid them being called that.

[@ritafreeman3252]

The lady in red is saying it as it is thank goodness 🇦🇺

[@colleengeyer1361]

👠

[@brendapowell4795]

@@colleengeyer1361 I think Diana Doria sounds good, as Sara Vine says, and if they want to merchandise it, it sounds catchy!.Best of good wishes to Queen Elizabeth 11.🌹

[@bonniehowell9206]

Thank God that Taz lady was not present for this episode. She would have took over the conversation and defended H&Mrs actions.

[@kazkaz2212]

Presumptuous and entitled...pretty much hits the nail right on the head when it comes to MeMe and Haz. Just when you think "they can't possibly sink any lower"...

[@chidebrown4420]

I never thought people could sing so low as to attack an infant. But here we are with you people are your crazy comments I'm sure there's more than enough dysfunction your whole sad family than to worry about these people

[@louisetrott5532]

An excellent episode. You hit the nail on the head: the relationship between the Harkles & the royal family is abusive. They abuse the RF repeatedly, knowing they can't reply, and then appropriate and exploit the assets of the RF. Its appalling.

[@katemitchell665]

Don’t know who the lady in the red shirt is, but she is bang on with what she is saying!

[@pillardelaney4726]

To me ,when I see a picture of the Queen, I never think , royalty, I think as a fragile widow, Lost my husband of 55 years,last Agost. Can enybody imagine what she is going through..? For the love of God. Let her bee. Is your grandmother ,have some respect even if your wife never understands the meaning of the word. From, Queensland.

[@74pinay]

If Hazmeg hadn’t trashed the RF, then the name wouldn’t be a big deal. It seems they used it to merch the royal connection, get publicity AND hurt the Queen by trivializing her to a nickname. They know she’s very private so Elizabeth would’ve been a real tribute publicly. If they want to give tribute to the Queen, even just as grandmother, then not trashing the family would be the way to go.

[@judytreischl6899]

Seems strange they name their daughter after the Queen who they said was such a poor parent and the head of such an abusive neglectful family. Very odd.

[@chidebrown4420]

And it's your business how? You don't have your own dysfunctional family to worry about

[@angelikakatarzynasazalas7904]

It's a business name "Lili bet Diana " ,it's already registered and domains bought..Get ready for Lili bet Diana t-shirts, mugs ,undies, etc.. it's to make money ..plus spite because they couldn't use word "Royal " , it's so very Markel .

[@pollyparrot8759]

The Tshirts and mugs are ALREADY on Amazon. God save us all

[@thomasmcnerney576]

@@pollyparrot8759 are you serious? That is disgusting.

[@pollyparrot8759]

@@thomasmcnerney576 Yes, sadly I am deadly serious. Awful isn't it? And they are unbelievably tacky.🤮

[@thomasmcnerney576]

@@pollyparrot8759 that is putting it politely! Somehow they really need to be stopped and silenced. Thankyou for your thoughts.

[@tonib5267]

I hope nobody purchases anything related to those two traitors

[@fddooley1]

Sarah do you really believe those two have not nefarious intentions?

[@mjq243]

Yes it's incredibly abusive - they are tactics of a Narc.

[@africareigns]

Sarah Vine is a wonderful addition to this panel. Please do not invite that tiresome historian woman who keeps interrupting everyone.

[@DCo923]

Finally a good honest show.

[@ava1234ish]

We should refer to H as Haz (his wife's name for him) so that he too has his personal pet name commonly used

[@johanna2690]

Yeah, it would be disrespectful to call Meghan "Meg". That's how Harry calls her. I feel a bit sorry for the baby girl. How can anyone live up to that name.

[@marianfrances3057]

I call him haz and her a variety one of which is THE MATRESS ACTRESS.

[@nueroendoctrinecarcinomaaf2272]

little birdie says in a blind, that lack of content from the pair, has caused them to be dropped, watch for news soon, and they have to give back the money~ YAY.

[@Lee-kg7ze]

Totally agree with Sarah Vine - very well said. I just hope and pray that the Queen can ignore yet more hurt from these two individuals.

[@julieannesimms6236]

The horrible pair

[@whatever8250]

So so sad for The Queen. 💔🇬🇧

[@calvin1148]

important fact: the pap shot of M and Archie in Cali that was released 18 minutes past midnight on Louis birthday, when M&H know that the RF release photographs on every childs' birthday to update the public on how they've grown. Those two were supposedly mad this happened and were going to sue.........nope, nothing, what does that tell you? it tells me it was done deliberately, it was the pap outlet M has dealt a lot with in the past.

[@JoyJoy-sc1ov]

and Archie's face was not pixelated like it's legally supposed to be. So his face showing was done on purpose!

[@wearmouth2630]

For all Harry preaches about his "genetic pain", why name a child with a name that will ensure she receives lots of publicity as she gets older. How will this effect Archie, and his "genetic pain". In the eyes of the media he will perceived as the "second best child"!!!

[@voice-of-reason3076]

You trolls are the ones creating publicity for Harry's children. Not many people knew that Lilibet is the Queen pet name but now the world has got to know. Any publicity is good publicity. Thank you.

[@wearmouth2630]

@@voice-of-reason3076 absolute rubbish, if you took the time to "educate" and were conversant in British History, you would realise the more intelligent amongst in the UK and around the world were well aware the Queen' pet name was Lillibet. As far as being a troll, how can my inocuous comment be construed as offensive. You and your ilk, make stupid comments without research. You my darling are the troll. By the way if you need me to explain some of the long words, give me a shout and I will explain. Better still read a book about the Monarchy, before making comments that make you foolish. Peace and love xxx

[@benb.a.479]

If they want to take the BBC to court maybe the BBC could take the opportunity to publish more scandals. I mean why not reveal more, I'm sure there's a lot more they are holding.

[@treetop888]

With friends like Hairy Harry and his crazy wife you don’t need enemies.

[@chidebrown4420]

I doubt they care for your friendship.

[@treetop888]

@@chidebrown4420 awesome, and I don’t care for yours. Blahahahahahaha.

[@chidebrown4420]

@@treetop888 Cool

[@treetop888]

@@chidebrown4420 Blahahahahahaha.

[@michelles4]

Branding a name is not an American thing, it is a celebrity thing.

[@chidebrown4420]

And?

[@angelaboschetto4466]

They registered the name so no one else could use it for a brand.only them .

[@ashtonupton413]

Ah, as an American we do NOT trademark our children's names. A few crazy elites may do it but that's it. BTW, I found it disrespectful to name the child after the Queen's nick name.

[@chidebrown4420]

Sorry nobody gives a $hit about your kid's name It has zero value and it has zero need for protection So mind your own business about your own bratty kids

[@JoyJoy-sc1ov]

high profile people trademark their kid's names so someone else doesn't use it.

[@lkreyche]

Definitely TOO INTIMATE. They are estranged from the Queen, and have a lot of nerve presuming that this is ok. If the Queen were ever to give permission for this name to be used, it would NOT be for Meghan's child. Never.

[@cathleendelorenzo205]

Here’s a silver lining: The Queen could now certainly use any threat of legal action over HER name as a perfect reason to cut loose these ingrates completely..

[@chidebrown4420]

I doubt the queen is as wicked as many of you people She's a typical grandmother who's more than likely delighted with the healthy granddaughter Some of you people need to pick up your Bible and read it and not just use as a coffee table ornament

[@harmonyharps4663]

@@chidebrown4420 I thought you hated royalty

[@chidebrown4420]

@@harmonyharps4663 You cast this woman as the MOST evil grandmother in the history of grandmothers No normal human grandmother is offended at a grand daughter sharing her name So the intimation is Elizabeth is abnormal with no maternal instinct...cold.....no heart Quite an indictment against the queen

[@harmonyharps4663]

@@chidebrown4420 Never have I made such a statement or implied same about HMQ. I am not interested whether the name is shared. YOU do not address the question of why the Montecito court would choose to name a child after any RF member if they believed the parenting over generations was oppressive. That is where the hyprocisy arises which was broadcast around the globe.

[@cathleendelorenzo205]

@@chidebrown4420 Matthew 7.1 😇

[@toolfan1231]

Harry’s wife would name the baby cabbage if she could make a dime or keep her tied to the Royals! This woman is a psycho!!! I feel so sorry for this little girl.

[@clairemcmahon9392]

This baby has been called this name for her parents to make a profit. All about the coin for that pair. They have no shame .

[@SueProv]

Harry called after the birth and before the announcement. The Queen may have been told but how couldn't say she didn't like it. She had no time to respond and it's a gun to her head metaphorically speaking. Probably kept silent to her real feelings and try not to create more trouble within the family that have already been troubled. They could have told her months ago.

[@gc3847]

Bring it on .The Beeb wouldve done something by now .The fact they havent ,less than 2 weeks after the Bashir findings ,I think says a lot .The fact the Palace s silence adds something , is interesting too. This pair are flying too high for their own good .Theres a disaster waiting to happen here

[@colinbatephotography.8440]

It's all about money to them .How many law suits have they issued already ?

[@susanrome6757]

I'm an American and I am so saddened that these games are being played. I would love to believe it was done in innocence and love to his grandmother. I personally felt that the Royal Family and England excepted Megan and tried to show such kindness and grace. Look at the way Prince Charles showed such respect walking her down the aisle and then at the end of the wedding respecting her mother. What I see in Megan is no respect for her own immediate family. Why didn't she use her mother's name in the babies name somewhere??? She just ditches her own family. I'm so sorry. This is no way to show your parents respect and love.

[@sallylunn8324]

They can’t merch off Doria’s name.

[@saywhatyouwant888]

Abusive in the relationship ' the guy was so spot on ..

[@ChillingWithMel22]

They also bought a domain with the name Princess Lilibet and Prince Archie they don’t even have titles yet why would they do that??

[@colleensullivan7377]

A brand name after the queen !!! My goodness what next. What a terrible thing to do to The Queen.

[@carolinebrown539]

Thanks for recognising the elder abuse of both HMTQ & Prince Charles!!

[@gmailvfone]

That's it "in a nutshell" - as the saying goes! And, I believe it started way back when MeGain heard the word "no"😠 from the Royals. Sooo ..... here we are now!

[@maggiep4225]

H&M won’t be suing anyone over this because they know, as well as we know, their claims are a bunch of garbage.

[@charmaccents6278]

If the queen had given her approval, none of this would be happening. At the first inkling of questioning, the queen could have put out another congrats to the couple and baby and said she approved and was honored that they named baby after her.

[@eastonfmly]

Do you think Harry and his wife recorded the conversation with Queen Elizabeth?

[@kathrynschierloh7358]

LittleBit can always change her name legally when she reaches adulthood. Shame on H and M.

[@chidebrown4420]

Shame on racists who would attack an infant child

[@joanneavis4561]

No respect,no shame..it’s all about money for ginge and cringe..no class just crass people

[@mvrickles1568]

Done out of pure spite !! That’s all they know is shameless and hateful ways !! Any and everything they can do to make a dollar 🐍🐍

[@barbararutherfoord577]

I can not stress how low I think Harry has gone to call the child Lillibet, and register it for commercial use. It is almost like how can we get in the press again ? I know we will choose the Queens very private special name for our child and get some cash out of this.

[@CN-qt3jb]

Yes! "Abusive" is the word!

[@TheBryn271]

the queen looks very frail..why can't these goons just leave her in peace....

[@greenclover790]

thanks god for u guys saying honesty about how shameless harry and his first wife is some tv personality just sugarcoat stuff

[@RoseAdams2024]

Their motives are transparent and their treachery knows no bounds. They should be shut out for good and never allowed back in this country. Harry’s wife is the most conniving despicable person. They bring nothing to the table and I hope the country literally turns their back on them......this was a deliberate and spiteful retaliation

[@chidebrown4420]

The fact that you're assigning all your hate to Megs just exposes your racism Your motives are transparent and your treachery knows no bounds

[@RoseAdams2024]

@@chidebrown4420 No it’s not racism so get off that predictable bandwagon and check out their actions and the reactions of the public to both their behaviours. Nothing they do adds up..... they want privacy and freedom which they have- yet they are constantly ensuring they are in the news with the assistance of their 3 PR companies. Come on..... smell the coffee!

[@chidebrown4420]

@@RoseAdams2024 Unless you had tea with the queen you were just making $hit up along with the BBC They need to get some diversity in these panels because these all white panelists and little to the conversation The UK is so diverse and the British empire is majority Brown yet we have these old farts on these panels

[@RoseAdams2024]

@@chidebrown4420 Sorry I don’t agree. The issue with the BBC is the Palace hasn’t denied it so far therefore why would they risk being sued by the litigious duo ? Let’s wait and see how it plays out. Also we are all entitled to our opinions .....free speech and all that. Harry’s past on that score is not so great wearing Nazi uniform and calling people Pakis......in contrast to the loose tongued La La land branch the actual RF are more discreet and dignified.

[@chidebrown4420]

@@RoseAdams2024 I suspect the queen doesn't want to get involved in the bullshit But if the crap continues she may have to issue a formal statement But the crazy thing is an attack on an infant to divert public attention away from the baby. Sick! That's a new level of jealousy to be jealous of an infant What makes the story seem even more silly is that ANY grandparent on the face of the Earth, royal or commoner, would be delighted to have a great-grandchild with her name in any form That's basic natural human maternal instinct....human This story planted by the evil palace staff implies that Elizabeth is a mean old bitch. Vindictive. Petty. Unlike any other human grandparent on the planet.. heartless If this is the narrative the palace wants out there that's fine. But they should keep in mind that a lot of tourist revenue comes to the UK from American visitors. A large chunk of Americans like this pair and are delighted that they have a new healthy baby girl. A lot of Americans assume the critique is naked racism But if the narrative you people want is that the queen is more concerned about a NAME than the baby's health, then you are free to own that silly narrative