Harry Potter Fans Watch THE LORD OF THE RINGS: THE RETURN OF THE KING Part 2 Reaction

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@DaKidsReact
@DaKidsReact 2 ай бұрын
Just wanted to put this out there. We are first time watchers with just context about the lore through the movies. Yes, we knew the ring corrupts the soul of the carrier but like many others said the movie doesn’t do a good job at conveying the full extent of the ring’s power. Towards the end we started to understand a bit more and we give praise to Frodo if you listen to our recap. Just wanted to address that, Love you guys!!
@christopherpurches2774
@christopherpurches2774 2 ай бұрын
A good analogy is drug or alcohol addiction. There's a reason Smeagol was so psychotic throughout. He was tail-end where Frodo was just falling into that same mindset. And, like a real addict, intervention saved his life. It isn't the worst take to be frustrated watching that happen when you don't know what is happening to them.
@flyonthewindshield3653
@flyonthewindshield3653 2 ай бұрын
Wasn't trying to dig guys, I'm 62 and read The Hobbit and Lord of the Rings when I was 16. The books are incredible and in depth. I just got upset watching as your frustration became apparent with respect to Frodo. So thrilled to see a new generation of young folks enjoying what I love. Hopefully you will watch "The Watchmen" in the near future.
@janerobinson4693
@janerobinson4693 2 ай бұрын
I appreciated your honest reactions. I felt differently about Frodo because I read the book first & his character is more admirable there.. but your honest reactions were great
@stuart.whiting
@stuart.whiting 2 ай бұрын
I get you don't have the full context as first time watchers. But c'mon, the movies do show Boromir being driven mad by the possibility of getting the Ring, Gandalf saying he cannot possess it because he would do terrible things, the same with Galadriel, how dramatically its power affected Smeagol and Bilbo, how Sauron is defeated and the freaking tower of Baradur collapses when the Ring is destroyed, etc. They even have Sam state that it's the Ring which is making Frodo change. You were right that Sam is a capital-H Hero, but someone had to carry the blasted thing and it almost wrecked him. It literally scarred him for eternity. Respect.
@mgentles3
@mgentles3 2 ай бұрын
You're not so far wrong, guys. Tolkien himself said Sam was the hero. Tolkien fought in WWI. He was upper class, so an officer. At that time officers had a guy called a 'batman' who looked after his needs. Between his own batman and the troops around him, Tolkien saw it was 'the little men' who were the heroes of that war as all others. They weren't fighting for their privileges or returning (if they returned) to nice homes or government help. They fought anyway, and many were optimistic and kept a sense of humor. If you watch Frodo's face when he sees Sam from the bed and again when the people bow, you'll see he feels he failed and doesn't deserve the accolades. He didn't 'fail' of course. He carried a thing that was pure torture longer than anyone could.
@darkglass1
@darkglass1 2 ай бұрын
You must understand, Frodo’s job wasn’t to be a hero, saving people in distress. His job was just to carry the ring to Mt Doom. He had to resist relentless temptation and psychological damage that increased with every step towards Mt Doom. No other being alive could have accomplished what Frodo did.
@pgrigg
@pgrigg 2 ай бұрын
It was a different kind of heroism, like Sam's heroism was also different. But everything the action heros did (like Aragorn) would be worth nothing if Frodo hadn't done his part. Sort of like Yin and Yang - you need both types of heroism in the world: facing outer demons and inner demons.
@pencil6965
@pencil6965 2 ай бұрын
exactly!
@gingerbaker_toad696
@gingerbaker_toad696 2 ай бұрын
For Frodo.🥲❤
@anita3018
@anita3018 2 ай бұрын
Your so annoying,the ring took hold of Frodo don't you remember in the beginning the guy couldn't let it go, I don't know what you guys were watching
@gingerbaker_toad696
@gingerbaker_toad696 2 ай бұрын
@@anita3018 wtf? 🤣 you are annoying.. i don't even know what you are trying to say 🤡 wdym "he" couldn't let it go in the "beginning"..? You mean Bilbo? Doesn't make any sense either way, we are not speaking of Bilbo. And doesn't make sense, because what beginning do you mean with Frodo? He would have given Galadriel the Ring. Sooo wtf do you even mean?
@steveornelas2956
@steveornelas2956 2 ай бұрын
It's easy to get frustrated with Frodo for constantly forgiving Gollum and letting him be deceitful and conniving, but the lesson to be learned is that Frodo's grace and forgiveness towards Gollum was what ultimately saved the mission. Had Gollum been killed or outcasted earlier in the story, he may never have come back to take the ring from Frodo and fall into the fires
@lyds6382
@lyds6382 2 ай бұрын
Yes! It could never have been thrown in the fire on purpose!
@samcrorie
@samcrorie Ай бұрын
Plus I think Frodo sympathized with Gollum.
@emilyrln
@emilyrln 27 күн бұрын
@@samcrorieimo Frodo believed that Gollum could be redeemed because he himself was also being tried and tested by the ring and wanted to believe that he could be redeemed, too.
@kalshot4315
@kalshot4315 27 күн бұрын
Frodo had to believe that smeagol could be saved. If smeagol could be saved from the ring than Frodo could be as well. No being in middle earth would be able to willingly throw the ring into mt doom and frodo ultimately failed in the end. The corruption from the ring never goes away and frodo isn't really saved from the ring until he's on the ship out of middle earth
@adacorfirewind6301
@adacorfirewind6301 2 ай бұрын
The thing about Frodo is that his failure is not a moral one. He got as far as he could, and did everything within his power to get the ring to the volcano. The ring is just that powerful to the effect that no one could make such a journey like that. Frodo took all that pain for himself because Sam needed to be able to support him. If Sam held onto the ring for much longer, he would have also been drawn in by its temptations.
@Cha-Llin
@Cha-Llin 2 ай бұрын
I also believe the ring is stronger the closer it is to Sauron and the mountain where it was made.
@pabloc8808
@pabloc8808 2 ай бұрын
@@Cha-Llin Yup Tolkien said that himself in one of his letters, that it was always impossible to willingly destroy the One Ring because its influence is strongest at the place where it was born, Mount Doom. That was Sauron's evil genius, but it ended up being his downfall since the Ring's influence was so strong it made Gollum attack Frodo.
@xellestar
@xellestar 2 ай бұрын
Yeah and the scene where Sam hesitates to give the ring back to Frodo shows that, while both Frodo and Sam are resiliant to the ring's effects, Frodo has had it for nearly a year, while Sam has it a relatively very short time and you can see how much he's starting to be affected already. It took much longer for Frodo to be worn down to that kind of state - that's why he deserves to be praised. It's been years since I last read the books but one part I always remember is that at this point the ring is showing Sam visions of him marching down into Mordor solo, vanquishing all enemies and transforming the place into a beautiful garden.
@ivanperez2705
@ivanperez2705 2 ай бұрын
​@@xellestar "Praise him with great praise!"
@joshuadunn2
@joshuadunn2 2 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure the canon explanation for what it took to destroy the ring in the last possible second was an act of God. Literally. The main deity that created the Middle Earth universe normally did not intervene in the affairs of mortals, but did so here by causing the moment where Gollum slips and falls in with the ring. The fact that it had to take divine intervention to get the job done, considering Frodo got it all the way there himself says a lot.
@tombisheal6256
@tombisheal6256 2 ай бұрын
After the ring was destroyed: Frodo left Middle Earth, so that he may be fully healed. He was still able to feel the wound on his arm from the sword at the beginning, plus for being the ring-bearer and it nearly consuming him like it did Gollum. Aragorn returned Gondor to it's former glory, and ruled happily with Arwen for 120 years. He had one son and two daughters. When his time drew near, he chose to take command of his own end. We laid in the House of the Kings in Minas Tirith with Gondor's past rulers and drifted into eternal sleep. Arwen passed one year later. Gimli became the Lord of the Glittering Caves under Helm's Deep, as it was rich with Mithril. He kept his word to Galadriel, and encased the strands of hair within glass and treasured it. Legolas restored the woodlands of Middle-Earth that were ravaged by the war, along with adventuring with Gimli. After Aragorn's death, Legolas made a ship of his own in Ithilien, and left Middle-Earth to cross the sea to reunite with the rest of the elves in the Undying Lands. Gimli crossed the sea with Legolas, due to his close friendship with the elf, and was the only dwarf that was offered that honor. Samwise married Rosie and had 13 children. He was also elected Mayor of the Shire for seven consecutive seven-year terms (49 years.) Afterwards, Sam was given passage to the Undying Lands to reunite with Frodo, as Samwise was also a Ring-Bearer, even for a short time. Pippin became the 32nd Thane of the Shire, and held that position for 50 years. He had one son named Faramir Took I, who later married Sam's daughter. After he retired as Thane, he left with Rohan and Gondor with Merry. He remained there for the rest of his life, and was entombed in the Hall of the Kings, and later moved to be laid to rest alongside Aragorn. Merry was knighted by King Eomer and become Master of Buckland. He married, and wrote a book. He had at least one son. At 102, he returned to Rohan and Gondor with Pippin, dying around the same time as Pippin. He was laid to rest in Gondor with Pippin, and later moved alongside Aragorn.
@carlalussini
@carlalussini 2 ай бұрын
Thank you from all non book readers! What's a thane though?
@kbirdie64
@kbirdie64 2 ай бұрын
@@carlalussiniit’s kind of like a king to the hobbits.
@speakstheobvious5769
@speakstheobvious5769 2 ай бұрын
@@carlalussini A Thane is usually the head of a clan. They own the land that their subjects live on. The land is usually granted by a king. I can't remember if Pippin was granted Thane by the Kingdom of Arnor or if they treated the Shire as a separate entity and Thane meant King of The Shire. edit: I just looked it up. Aragorn becomes King of Arnor and Gondor, and the Shire becomes a protected enclave within the Reunited Kingdom in Fo. A. 6. Aragorn issues an edict that only hobbits can enter the Shire without permission, and he extends the land westwards to Emyn Beraid, which he names Westmarch. So it appears that Aragorn probably granted him Thane.
@carlalussini
@carlalussini 2 ай бұрын
@@speakstheobvious5769 thank you for your generosity 🙏🏼
@zoniekat
@zoniekat 2 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@SerginhoPMoura
@SerginhoPMoura 2 ай бұрын
Frodo is NOT a hero, he's a SAVIOR. He sacrificed his soul to save Middle Earth. Sam's loyalty was for Frodo. Frodo's loyalty was for all Life.
@patrickkihn
@patrickkihn 2 ай бұрын
Yes, Frodo is a martyr. For the Quest he endured long torment and took great harm to his very soul. Frodo is the savior of Middle-earth. Sam is the savior of Frodo.
@PlaneToSpain
@PlaneToSpain 2 ай бұрын
As many others may tell you, Frodo didn't drop it in because that's the caveat: no one can do it at that point. Once you are standing over the lava, it is at its highest power. Even Aragorn wouldn't drop it in, even though he is very pure for a Man. Sam is kinda the hero, but Frodo is discounted a lot because of the movies showing a lot of his physical weariness and some of his mental/spirit being destroyed.
@BigSexyWizard
@BigSexyWizard 2 ай бұрын
I believe Sam would be able to do it if Frodo had died and he had to finish the mission.
@DigimonFan814
@DigimonFan814 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, and that's exactly what Gandalf was talking about when he spoke about Bilbo having spared Gollum in Fellowship, and how he felt that he still had some part yet to play. Without Gollum/Smeagol, the quest would have failed, because no person can willfully destroy the Ring. Only with his intervention could the Ring be destroyed here, and thus the mercy of Bilbo had the distant ramification of enabling the destruction of the Ring.
@cenotemirror
@cenotemirror 2 ай бұрын
Lots of reactors just don't seem to understand how strong the corrupting influence of the Ring is. It turned Saruman and Boromir, both of whom were noble, high-minded, and strong-willed, just with the knowledge of its existence within their grasp. Isildur couldn't bring himself to destroy it despite being one of mankind's great champions and only having held it for a few minutes. Gandalf, with all his wisdom, flat out refuses to touch it even for a few seconds because he's so scared of what it would do to his mind. Frodo's been carrying it, on his person and constantly thinking of it, for around a year at that point. He's physically ill, exhausted, starved, and wounded; all of which will sap the will of a person in any situation. Expecting him to contend with the will of the Ring in the place where it is strongest and win is like expecting a end-stage cancer patient to box with Mike Tyson in his prime and win.
@pabloc8808
@pabloc8808 2 ай бұрын
Yeah Frodo didn't fail his task: he was supposed to take the Ring to Mount Doom. He was never expected to destroy it because that was impossible. He took the Ring to Mount Doom. An accident, Fate, or Eru Iluvatar ("God") destroyed it. Frodo did what he was supposed to do
@BoringTroublemaker
@BoringTroublemaker 2 ай бұрын
I’ve read the books, I understand the corrupting influence - Frodo still annoys the shit out of me. And all the people repeating the SAME thing in the comments as if they haven’t read every other comment saying the SAME thing, is also annoying.
@pencil6965
@pencil6965 2 ай бұрын
@@pabloc8808 wdym he was never expected to destroy it? what would he do with it mount doom (i never read the books)
@baddestmaninthevalley1607
@baddestmaninthevalley1607 2 ай бұрын
Fantastic explanation!
@imaturtle0627
@imaturtle0627 2 ай бұрын
@@pencil6965 It is physically impossible for any thing that isn't Sauron or Eru Iluvatar to purposefully destroy the ring, Eru Iluvatar had to place a rock for Gollum to trip on to destroy the ring.
@qs2668
@qs2668 2 ай бұрын
Let's not praise Sam at the expense of Frodo who is carrying an immense burden and fighting an inner battle every waking and sleeping second. It's not like one is the hero and the other is useless. The mission needed Frodo, and Frodo needed Sam. We can appreciate both for their individual parts
@i_am_fallen
@i_am_fallen 2 ай бұрын
People saying Frodo is the worst hero are the ones who don't know anything about what is going on. They would be the ones to fall to the ring just by looking at it.
@justingreen7984
@justingreen7984 2 күн бұрын
yeh people disrespecting Frodo did not read the books, Frodo is a gangster in the books
@pencil6965
@pencil6965 2 ай бұрын
Also wanted to add this from another commenter: The chant of "Death" by Rohan had so much meaning behind it. It was a reflection to Illuvatar's (Supreme God) gift (Death) to mankind, so that they can experience what it means to truly live - to have free will and be liberated from the physical world which the elves and Valar would eventually come to envy. But Morgoth and Sauron twisted mankind into believing that "Death" was a curse and corrupted them to turn away from the Gods and seek for immortality, proving that Men are the weakest race and thus the easiest to corrupt for their personal use. The acceptance of "Death" during Rohan's charge was a direct act of defiance against Morgoth and Sauron, showing them that men are not as weak as they thought, and that they will learn to fear the true strength of men when they have finally accepted the gift of "Death". Which is why you can see the fear reflected on the Orcs' faces as the Riders inch closer and closer, because they now realise that men were no where near as weak as they thought they were.
@TranscendentalMindX
@TranscendentalMindX Ай бұрын
You were going well until the 2nd paragraph. The 2nd paragraph's excessive simplicity isn't the entire story. It's a spiritual thing that a LOT of people consistently miss in the West.
@pencil6965
@pencil6965 Ай бұрын
@@TranscendentalMindX care to explain then
@ChristopherLongbeard
@ChristopherLongbeard 2 ай бұрын
Merry and Eowyn suffered from "the black breath" (a magical "poison" the nazgul emit) after fighting the Witch King, plus Eowyn broke her arm when he hit her shield.
@bizwize2965
@bizwize2965 2 ай бұрын
Also Tolkien wrote that the reason Eowyn was able to kill the 'unkillable' witch king is because the dagger that Merry stabbed the witch king with was a magic dagger made thousands of years before specifically for fighting in the wars with the Witch Kings army. It broke the spell protecting the Witch King from mortal harm, if not for that then Eowyn's stab would have done nothing.
@raykreilick7829
@raykreilick7829 2 ай бұрын
Y'all better stop hating on my guy Frodo. He had the hardest job in the whole series.
@ben-fe8dc
@ben-fe8dc 11 күн бұрын
I'm with you but I actually thought it was so funny the way they saw it haha
@ungenerationed9022
@ungenerationed9022 2 ай бұрын
You'll be glad to know Rosie and Sam have 13 kids. Sam serves 8 terms as mayor of the Shire, and after Rosie passes, Sam as a ring bearer (if even for a short time) is accorded the honor of joining Frodo in the gray havens.
@flyonthewindshield3653
@flyonthewindshield3653 2 ай бұрын
Guys Frodo became exactly what every bearer of the one became. Gandalf refused the ring for a reason. Its power was unimaginable. For so weak a hobbit he saved middle earth through his wisdom and strength. It was Frodo who understood the role gollum had to play, it was Frodo who took the one and bore it, Sam played a critical role but ultimately when you think of the power of the ring and what it does to its bearer Frodo is our hero.
@benjammin9471
@benjammin9471 2 ай бұрын
Yeah exactly, Isildur was 'stronger' (all the numenor buffs) than anyone in the third age and he was corrupted almost immediately.
@nathanrhoten8421
@nathanrhoten8421 2 ай бұрын
"As Tolkien himself stated, no one at that point, having held on to and used the One as extensively as Frodo had (even if it was just a tiny fraction of the time Gollum had it), would have been able to cast it into the fire. Gandalf and Galadriel both refused it, didn't even touch it, for fear of temptation"
@pencil6965
@pencil6965 2 ай бұрын
i always wondered why sam couldnt hold it - i believe it also didnt affect him like it did others. thats why he was able to hold it for frodo
@nathanrhoten8421
@nathanrhoten8421 2 ай бұрын
@pencil6965 Hobbits have great resistance to the ring because they don't desire power and riches... their real passion is for food. So the ring couldn't easily tempt Sam. Sauron knew of their existence but didn't think of giving them a ring of power for he didn't see them being any use to him
@pencil6965
@pencil6965 2 ай бұрын
@@nathanrhoten8421 yea but im saying why couldn't sam hold it instead of frodo
@nathanrhoten8421
@nathanrhoten8421 2 ай бұрын
@@pencil6965 Frodo, as Bilbo acknowledges, is still in love with the Shire, and doesn't really want to go exploring, and since the essence of the Shire is pure relaxation and comfort, there's not much The Ring can tempt Frodo with that would do Sauron any good. Sam has desires a Garden complex and wishes to go see the Elves. But also Gandalf states that is seems as though FATE destined Frodo to have the Ring.
@Alice-go2nc
@Alice-go2nc 2 ай бұрын
Because he’s needed for the fact that he’s not succumbed to the rings power and can support Frodo. It also would have destroyed the last of Frodo’s sanity(along with Sam’s)- no matter how exhausted, if Sam took the ring at the end there Frodo probably would have earnestly tried to kill him and one of them would have died. I also think there is a sense of minimising the damage- bearing the ring for any extended time erodes the person. And finally it’s clear that the magic of the ring is strong within mount doom- to the point that no one could have deliberately thrown it in- it had to happen indirectly.
@klaptongroovemaster
@klaptongroovemaster 2 ай бұрын
"Sam's going to tackle him into the fire." In Tolkien's first draft, that's exactly how he wrote it. Frodo always failed, and Gollum bit his finger off. The final version Gollum is leaping for joy and falls in. They hear one last "Precious!" and he was gone. There was no wrestling match or literal cliff-hanger. And Frodo NEVER told Sam to leave in the book. And Sam not only took the Ring when he thought Frodo was dead, he used it to rescue him from the tower. For that reason, Sam too sailed to Valinor before he died like the other Ring-Bearers, Bilbo and Frodo. They went to the Undying Lands to be properly healed because the Ring messed them up so bad.
@JayDukeable
@JayDukeable 2 ай бұрын
If I remember correctly, part of Denethor The Steward's madness was that it turned out he had been looking into a palantir he had, which he kept secret. Sauron had been showing him images of Gondor's downfall & burning which had convinced him that defeat was inevitable.
@deano2506
@deano2506 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, Sauron had been corrupting him for a long time. As good as this trilogy is, it does either a great disservice or completely misrepresents the characters from the books. Denathor, Boromir, Faramir, Frodo, Gimli, Aragorn, Merry, and Pip all get misrepresented. Denathor and Frodo are the two most egregious. They failed to include the moment, which showed Elrond and Gandalf that Frodo was strong enough to bear the ring, which undermines the entire story. In the movie adaptation, there is no logical reason for Frodo to be ring bearer he gives into it's temptation every single time, it's actually Sam who resists it and stops Frodo putting it on every time.
@tylerholland363
@tylerholland363 2 ай бұрын
​@@deano2506 I feel like Denethor is easily the change from the books to the movies that I dislike the most. Denethor was extremely intelligent and his will was extremely strong for his proximity to Mordor and constant pressure from Sauron as you mention. But the Frodo change is something that, while a departure from the source material, improves the story for the films. It shows that the ring was truly impossible to fight against. It required support, friendship, and luck to make it to the very end.
@deano2506
@deano2506 2 ай бұрын
@@tylerholland363 I can't agree about Frodo. It's the most important moment in the trilogies up until the ring is destroyed. To remove this is to remove any reason Frodo should be entrusted with the ring. I think a critical dragon has a video where he breaks this down in a far more succinct way than I ever can. It's well worth a watch.
@tylerholland363
@tylerholland363 2 ай бұрын
@@deano2506 I'll take a look, thanks for shooting that recommendation my way.
@deano2506
@deano2506 2 ай бұрын
@@tylerholland363 no problemo. It's a really good channel if you enjoy reading and are interested in how authors work their magic. I hope you enjoy.
@whattheplucked9576
@whattheplucked9576 2 ай бұрын
The ring is like a drug addiction. Frodo is helpless, but knows it must be destroyed.
@danayneal4409
@danayneal4409 2 ай бұрын
Which is also why he feels so bad for Smegal. He understands that "it wasn't me, it was the drugs" attitude.
@MrAlathiel
@MrAlathiel 2 ай бұрын
@@danayneal4409 frodo just sees himself in smeagol. he sees what he will become. And he must try and help him, because if there is hope for smeagol, there is hope for frodo.
@spencergrady4575
@spencergrady4575 2 ай бұрын
When Sam had the ring for no more than an hour it already almost took him over. Frodo carried it the entire time. Sam deserves his praise but Frodo doesn't deserve any of the hate he gets. It's almost frustrating at this point lol.
@domingocurbelomorales8635
@domingocurbelomorales8635 2 ай бұрын
Faramir and Eowyn love story, it´s quite deeper and incredibly romantic in the book. Here we only see a few nice moments.
@frankydawgk3640
@frankydawgk3640 2 ай бұрын
They didnt quite get the idea off in the movie but in the books Aragorn is a renowned healer and he heals alot of the smaller injuries any of the fellowship get as they travel. Then after the battle of minus tirith Aragorn spends the night healing all that he can in the city. And gondor had an ancient sayin that "the hands of the king are the hands of a healer" and so rumor spreads that a great captain had saved them and after battle he brings healing and so the people start to accept Aragorn as king before he pushes for any claim to the throne.
@nancyberry1039
@nancyberry1039 2 ай бұрын
The Ride of the Rhohirrim always gives me chills. Theoden's rallying speech, the music, & visuals are spine tingling. By the way, King Theoden is Eowyn's & Eomer's uncle, not their father. Ewoyn & Faramir are not cousins, no blood relations at all. It's a good match for them. Aragorn in now King of Gondor, so Denethor is no longer steward (if he hadn't taken the fire leap of death). So Faramir is not heir to the stewardship anymore. He & Ewoyn can rule Rohan together as Queen & King Consort.
@orsolyaambruzs3340
@orsolyaambruzs3340 2 ай бұрын
Well, in the books... Éomer is the heir of Rohan. So, he is the King there. Faramir and Eowyn ruled in Ithilien, as prince and princess, given them by Aragorn.
@Cassimfan
@Cassimfan 2 ай бұрын
Yes, Theodon's reasoning behind the suicidal charge at the Oliphaunts was a desperate bid to keep them away from the city and home the sheer number of Rohirrim could whittle them down. In this moment, Rohan is Gondor's only line of defense, so Theodon will do whatever it takes to keep the White City as safe as possible and give them the best chance.
@klaptongroovemaster
@klaptongroovemaster 2 ай бұрын
In the book, the only way they figured out to deal with the Mumakil was to get in close and shoot them in the eyes.
@haydenbryan6244
@haydenbryan6244 2 ай бұрын
Frodo cannot help it, the ring tempts anything that is alive and isn't Sauron. It would be like is Sauron's consciousness was inside of you fighting to take control 100% of the time. The wound he received from the Morgul-blade also enhanced this connection, so Frodo is actually being tempted MORE than the typical bearer. IMHO, he has the biggest burden of anyone in the show because of this, and shows how strong he truly is.
@gdyniarichards5452
@gdyniarichards5452 2 ай бұрын
Frodo never gets the credit he deserves. I will always be team Frodo
@rustygunner8282
@rustygunner8282 2 ай бұрын
Frodo bore a burden much heavier than likely anyone else in Middle Earth could have borne, and there in the Chamber of Fire in the heart of Mt. Doom where it was forged at the very core of Sauron’s power, nobody could have chosen to destroy the ring. Just getting there was on the edge of impossible. Frodo did OK.
@ChalkyRN
@ChalkyRN 2 ай бұрын
@@dirtycash36completely agree. Bilbo is the only owner of the ring that was able to give it up. That moment in Hobbiton means so much and shows just how incorruptible hobbits are.
@gdyniarichards5452
@gdyniarichards5452 2 ай бұрын
​@@dirtycash36I agree with that too
@imaturtle0627
@imaturtle0627 2 ай бұрын
@@rustygunner8282 The moment were Gollum slips is the second act of god in the universe sense it made middle earth round. (the first was the resurrection of Gandalf).
@krisfrederick5001
@krisfrederick5001 2 ай бұрын
"End? No, the journey doesn't end here. Death is just another path, one that we all must take and then you see it..." The lighting of the beacons...the speeches from King Théoden and King Aragorn...feeling the power of the Rohirrim charge, were some of the most epic theatrical experiences...Chills forever...I cried at the end the first time, I can't lie. You know it is a masterpiece when you don't want a 4 hour film to end...People say this is the "Star Wars of our generation" They have it backwards. Star Wars was the Lord of the Rings of their time. The lore goes deeper than Star Wars can imagine.
@darkchiron
@darkchiron Ай бұрын
Very true on the epic scenes of the movies. They had the extended trilogy in theaters again not long ago, which I and the family got to watch. Seen it so many times at home, but the true epicness of these films only really get justice up on the big screen.
@lmsossi6501
@lmsossi6501 2 ай бұрын
I know Frodo was annoying you, but try to keep in mind the pure evil and power of the ring and the burden Frodo bore for so many months. He didn't fail at the end; it was the ring that would not allow itself to be destroyed. If not for Gollum, the ring would have survived, and it only fell into the fire by accident as Gollum fell off the cliff. Frodo withstood the power of the ring for far longer than anyone else, such as Aragorn's ancestor, Boromir, and Gollum, all of whom were corrupted very quickly. So Frodo really was a hero because he resisted the ring until that last moment when the ring did what it was created to do in not letting itself be destroyed so it could return to Sauron.
@DavidEllis94
@DavidEllis94 2 ай бұрын
As a lot of the comments are pointing out, the thing you have to remember about Frodo is that nobody would have done any better than him. Canonically, you, personally, would not be able to destroy the Ring, either. Literally no being on Arda apart from the Valar (the gods) would be capable of willingly destroying the Ring. Sauron probably could, but it wouldn't so he doesn't count. Point is, Frodo wasnt weak. You have remember he was actually INCREDIBLY strong. Sam also could not have done what he did.
@Dumbodwarf
@Dumbodwarf 2 ай бұрын
While Frodo may have failed in the end, you have to understand that nobody could have been able to throw the One ring in Mount Doom. The fact that he was able to bring it all the way is an immense feat and definitely worth huge respect. Him staying in Middle-Earth tho would have been miserable for him, the One Ring had broken him physically, mentally and spiritually not too mention the stab wound he received at Weathertop from the Witch King and from Shelob (the big spider in the cave) would never heal otherwise. Also, to explain the situation with Eowyn and the Witch King basically he had a spell on him that if someone were to stab him or whatever, they would be inflicted with a poison that slowly killled them. When Merry stabbed him though the sword he used had an enchantment basically that got rid of it. In the books, you see how they obtain it however, the movies never show. It was only because of Aragorn that they were saved. I don't remember the exact quote but only he was able to heal both of them. All in all both Sam and Frodo were heroes in different ways.
@khmerchef
@khmerchef 2 ай бұрын
Didn't Galadriel gifted the knife to Merry in Fellowship? Correct me if I'm wrong.
@emilyrln
@emilyrln 27 күн бұрын
@@khmerchef the knife that Merry uses against the Witch-King came from an old tomb in the Shire that was haunted by barrow-wights (a peril from which Tom Bombadil rescues them). In the movies, they receive these weapons from Aragorn on Weathertop. In the books, Galadriel gives Merry and Pippin silver belts with leaf-shaped golden buckles, not the daggers.
@rustygunner8282
@rustygunner8282 2 ай бұрын
To partially explain Denethor, Minas Tirith still had one of the old Palantiri, the seeing-stones, like the one Saruman had. Denethor used it to watch Sauron, and while even he couldn’t make the Palantiri lie he could choose what to show, and over the years had shown Denethor such an unending narrative of unstoppable power that Denethor eventually gave in to despair and lost the will to fight.
@qs2668
@qs2668 2 ай бұрын
to clear up confusion about Eowyn's family relations: Eomer (Billy Butcher) is her *brother* King Theoden is their *uncle* Theoden had a son (Theodred) who was killed in the second movie, that was obviously Eowyn's and Eomer's cousin and Faramir of Gondor is obviously completely unrelated to all of them lol
@homicidalPEACH
@homicidalPEACH 2 ай бұрын
Frodo is NOT the worst hero. The Ring is not benign unless in the hands Sauron. Bilbo didn't appear to be so affected for so long because the Shire is far, far from Mordor and Bilbo never had any intent to destroy it. Mount Doom is in Mordor, and so is Sauron. Every step closer to Frodo's goal is one step closer for the Ring's goal, too. And the closer they get, the more powerful the Ring grows. The Ring is like all the Axis powers of WWII, every addiction, every anxiety, every fear, every ab*sive ex on the planet amplified by three thousand years. And it is actively torturing Frodo physically, psychologically, and spiritually, to break his will to destroy the Ring. He is entirely aware that by putting one foot in front of the other, he is increasing his anguish-but he keeps moving forward anyway. Remember how briefly Lady Galadriel was exposed to the Ring before it tempted her to take over the world? It's not just trying to influence him, it's also trying to turn everyone around Frodo into an enemy so Frodo can't even trust anyone-which is a heavy contributor to his paranoia. The fact that it's taken this long for the Ring to even manage to separate Frodo from his best friend is pretty amazing. None of the other characters would have been able to carry the Ring this far, not even Sam. Just because Frodo hasn't gone charging sword-drawn into battle doesn't mean he hasn't been fighting in the war-and he's never had downtime to rest, feast, or drink ale.
@InsaneF0x
@InsaneF0x 2 ай бұрын
Best Trilogy of my Life! since over 20 years!
@UsagiDango
@UsagiDango 2 ай бұрын
Best trilogy since WWI you mean~ when professor Tolkien wrote it 😊❤
@martijnvanvelsen6313
@martijnvanvelsen6313 2 ай бұрын
The spider in the movie was called Shelob and that's what Gollem meant when he said 'She could do it' in the end of part 2. And the creatures that the Nazgul wer're riding on were creatures from an older world whose kind, still lingering in forgotten mountains cold under the moon, outlived it's time and there in a hideous eagle's nest hatched this last untimely brood, bent on evil. And Sauron took it and raised it on wild flesh until it was greater than all other things that fly, and he gave it to his servant to serve as his steed.
@genny5309
@genny5309 2 ай бұрын
I came to the comments to defend Frodo and I’m glad to see there are already many, many excellent comments already doing that. I love Sam and Aragorn and the other heroes. But Frodo did what none of them could have done. For Frodo.
@slytherinbuttafly3088
@slytherinbuttafly3088 2 ай бұрын
Guys ☹️☹️ I understand ur frustration with Frodo but keep in mind that he isn’t a fighter. He has a heavy weight to carry and for him to be able to carry that ring for as long as he did is a major feat. It’s easier for other people to stand on business because they didn’t have the power of the ring pressing down on them.
@StrayMedicine
@StrayMedicine 2 ай бұрын
As a huge LOTR nerd, watching your reaction was great. Always glad to see people enjoy this series, and glad you're checking the comments, especially ones that give more context. Also respect for diving head first and going straight for the extended editions, that must've been an amazing way to experience it for the first time.
@DaKidsReact
@DaKidsReact 2 ай бұрын
Appreciate the love! Each movie was definitely a journey within itself but we enjoyed every bit of it.
@MFZ0dd
@MFZ0dd 2 ай бұрын
Eowyn passed out and fell ill from the damages of the fight against the Witch King , when he shattered her shield, that basically destroyed her whole arm. And the spiritual damage from stabbing him in the face was immense as well so she was in a bad state for awhile. Thankfully Aragorn has the healing hands, and he was able to aid both Eowyn and Faramir back to health.
@catbowserfantasytherapist3132
@catbowserfantasytherapist3132 2 ай бұрын
In answer to your questions about Merry and Eowyn being so injured by the Witch King-the Witch King had one of the nine rings given to men which essentially starves off death. But death still tried to reach him. So, he basically has a mist of death around him. When Eowyn kills him, that mist disperses around him. So they both basically got a huge whiff of death
@shirleydurr411
@shirleydurr411 2 ай бұрын
Only Frodo could have gotten the ring that close to Mordor. That's his strength and his heroic action. No one but Frodo could bear it so far before being corrupted by its power. The ring did affect him -- strongly as we see in the end -- but he carried to the brink. Reaching for Sam's hand and letting Sam help him back up shows his character. If he was not as strong as he was, he would have followed Gollum into the fire of Mount Doom.
@michaelhuie5878
@michaelhuie5878 2 ай бұрын
Frodos isnt useless. He literally held the burden of the ring the whole journey. The closer you get to the source if the rings creation(mount doom) the stronger its influence. Its confirmed NOONE can withstand the rings influence once in Mount Doom. It had to be Gollum interfering to let the ring indirectly be destroyed by an accident.
@ChristopherLongbeard
@ChristopherLongbeard 2 ай бұрын
Frodo gets a bad rap, but he had the hardest job. No one else handled the ring for that long, that close to Mordor like he did. Sam is definitely the true hero though
@pabloc8808
@pabloc8808 2 ай бұрын
Sauron's influence is so powerful Aragorn can hear his call at the Black Gate even though he never touched the damn Ring. Frodo was at the heart of Mordor and kept pushing, after MONTHS carrying it. He has by far the most willpower in the story, although Sam is a close second having been so close to Frodo for all that time and never even considering to take it for himself
@MrAjPiper
@MrAjPiper 2 ай бұрын
Nobody on earth would have been able to drop the ring. It HAD to be destroyed by accident.
@markwarner5554
@markwarner5554 2 ай бұрын
Tolkien himself said that nobody could have tossed the ring into the fire on purpose. It was always going to require an accident. The whole thing hinged on rather a lot of luck...or not. There are also some reasons to think the god of that universe (Eru Ilúvatar) nudged Gollum over the brink in a little bit of divine intervention.
@ragg9585
@ragg9585 2 ай бұрын
Frodo carried the ring from the Shire to Rivendel and was glad to get rid of it. He already experienced what the ring of power did to his mind and will, basically bending his soul. When Frodo took the task of carrying it to Mordor, at the council in Rivendel, he knew what that meant. He saw that the others had their wills elsewhere and not solely on the task of the destruction of the ring. You can see then, the sorrow on Gandalf's face. Because Frodo wasn't meant to be the hero, he was the sacrifice. Carrying it for so long and with the increasing power of the ring, Frodo can't eat or sleep, constantly fighting the corruption of the ring. You cannot see the struggle of Frodo as clearly, but it is huge. The ring is eating his mind, bending it to his will. When Frodo is at Mount Doom, the ring is at its ultimate power. Not Gandalf, Aragorn or Sam would have the will power to wield it, not even if they took it from him. The reason why Elrond asked, who wants to take it the ring Mount Doom, is because they would have to volunteer as it was a suicide mission. Frodo was meant to fail. As Frodo was granted to leave with the elves to the West it was because, even though the ring was destroyed (through its own evil and corruption of both Frodo and Gollum), the damage it did to Frodo was permanent. He still wants it, as Bilbo also wants it when he asks for it in the end. That's also why Frodo wishes to save Smeagol as it means he can save himself. Frodo knew he was sacrificing himself and therefore couldnt lend it to others, such as Boromir or Sam. He would have abandoned his sacrifice and hope. Basically asking them to die in his stead. Also it wouldn't be very practical as the ring is treacherous. Sam carried the ring long enough to understand the rings power and Frodo's struggle in the tower of Cirith Ungol when he rescued Frodo. I hope this sheds light on Frodo's struggle and the ultimate sacrifice he made for the world. Gandalf said "it was only a fool's hope" that Frodo was going to make it. He didn't. But he got the ring close enough that its own doing led it to the fires of Mount Doom. But he couldn't have gotten there without Sam. Who is the true hero of the story.
@domingocurbelomorales8635
@domingocurbelomorales8635 2 ай бұрын
"-No man can kill me" "-I am no man" And it was truth: a hobbit stabbed the Witch King (with an Elvish dagger), and a woman finished him.
@whirlyn
@whirlyn Ай бұрын
In this movie Merry is using a rohirrim sword and in the book he used an ancient Dunedain sword "The Barrow Blade", Just saying.
@geofftottenperthcoys9944
@geofftottenperthcoys9944 2 ай бұрын
The 2 kids at the end with Sam, are his actual kids in real life!
@reagankarcher3718
@reagankarcher3718 2 ай бұрын
I can’t carry it for you, but I can carry you
@eclectrickery8077
@eclectrickery8077 2 ай бұрын
One of the morals of this story is.... No one achieves anything alone. "All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us." (Gandalf. We should listen to wizards. They're quite smart.)
@chrisf2636
@chrisf2636 2 ай бұрын
Now they just need to see “Rudy”
@lyds6382
@lyds6382 2 ай бұрын
Just FYI, Theoden is Eowyn and Eomer’s uncle. His son, their cousin, died in battle before Gandalf freed his mind from Saruman’s spell.
@Gandoan
@Gandoan 2 ай бұрын
If Sam got the ring from the start and Frodo went with him, then the tables would have been turned. Sam would have struggled and Frodo would have carried him. It doesn't matter who you put in their, the ring would have corrupted eventually.
@elliotlevi3411
@elliotlevi3411 2 ай бұрын
Great reaction guys, really enjoyed it. I just wanted to add something about Frodo: So to simply sum it up, NO ONE can resist the ring. Frodo is the person who managed to resist it the best of all (though even he gave way in the end). It was enough for Sam to have the ring for only a few hours (from the time Frodo was stung by the spider until he returned the ring to Frodo). It is not so clear in the film, but in the book it is clear how quickly the ring took its toll on Sam. He immediately began to have delusions that he could become a master/ruler. He could never have destroyed the ring either, no one can (In the book no one actually destroyed the ring by itself, Gollum slipped by accident because he was so happy and started jumping around when he had the ring again, and then he slipped into the fire). Had Gandalf had the ring, he would have become the new Sauorn - That's just how the ring works, NO ONE can resist its power. And to answer your question at 44:17 regarding who is the real hero you simply have to say both Frodo and Sam. Sam did an incredible job for Frodo, and the mission could never have been accomplished without him. But you also have to give Frodo his flowers. He carried an incredibly heavy burden, And there is no one in history who has had the Ring and managed to resist its power as well as Frodo did. And I agree about Smeagol. He got an important role to play in the end, a decisive role because without him the ring wouldn't have been destroyed either. This is exactly what Gandalf predicted in the first movie where he said that Gollum will probably have a role to play, for good or evil (minutes 48:34 to 49:10 in The Fellowship of The ring).
@TheCraftyNinjaSculpts
@TheCraftyNinjaSculpts 15 күн бұрын
and adding that, if Bilbo and Frodo hadnt had pity on Gollum, the ring wouldn't have been destroyed.
@hettbeans
@hettbeans 2 ай бұрын
Hey guys, many years after the end of this story, Sam is given passage across the sea to join Frodo in the Undying Lands. He was a ring-bearer if only for a couple of minutes, but that still accords him the right. They got to see each other again in the end :o)
@movoo6077
@movoo6077 2 ай бұрын
No one can willingly destroy the ring. That's why the entire quest was "a fools hope." This is a crucial point to understand. All said I enjoyed your reaction to this masterpiece."
@noelreynolds7739
@noelreynolds7739 2 ай бұрын
Man, I hope these guys realize how powerful the ring is before they judge Frodo so hard like this.
@georgev3433
@georgev3433 2 ай бұрын
So in the books Sauroman isnt killed at Isengard. He takes Wormtongue and takes over the Shire. Frodo and the boys lead a rebellion and he’s driven off/killed (idr).
@KaiserKiller
@KaiserKiller 2 ай бұрын
Tolkien and Jackson's depiction of PTSD after life changing events in this movie is the best i have ever seen and is always my favorite part. I served two tours in Iraq and the feeling of finally coming back home to that beer with your friends you held on to and dreamed for. And when it happens it's surreal. Everyone smiles with hollow smiles knowing what we left back. And it's always there in our minds like a dull constant pain. It was captured so, so well at the end. And the whole time you're enjoying this beer while people around you whose lives didn't change is something that's hard to explain. And you drink and think how you probably don't deserve any of this. But you move on and enjoy life anyway because that was the whole point of coming back home intact
@KelliFranklin
@KelliFranklin 2 ай бұрын
I think they are all heroic. They were all flawed and acted imperfectly in unearthly circumstances. They all stepped up. I love them all!
@babyfry4775
@babyfry4775 2 ай бұрын
Sam was the real hero but Frodo was amazing in his ability to conquer all the darkness and hatred of the Ring. It really was psychological torture. Nobody would throw the ring in. Finally the fight of Gollum and Frodo caused the ring to fall in. Such a good movie. Great characters and evil beings. My favorites are Sam and Aragorn. So glad Aragorn married Arwen and Sam married too. My favorite trilogy! Good one guys! 😍😄
@SmokersStaircase
@SmokersStaircase 2 ай бұрын
Faramir and Eowyn are not related lol. Eowyn & Eomer are brother and sister and King Theoden was their uncle.
@MaymoneyInDaBuilding
@MaymoneyInDaBuilding 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for clarifying that.
@BigOlEv
@BigOlEv 2 ай бұрын
I think you guys severely misunderstand what the ring does to Frodo lol he can't just drop it
@ZenSponge
@ZenSponge 2 ай бұрын
Think of the ring as being highly radioactive. Affecting only a small area, with the one wearing it being hit by it the hardest. Frodo was dealing with advanced radiation poisoning from the start. So to speak. Yeah, Elijah Wood the actor did ham it up a bit, and sometimes came across as corny. Imagine though, being eaten away by a sentient cancer. A disease with a mind, and a will of its own. Totally evil. Sort of makes the character a little more bearable when you recognize what he was really carrying.
@freakyalien5449
@freakyalien5449 2 ай бұрын
Galadriel to Frodo: “If you cannot do this, no one will.” Please just stop being so rude to Frodo. His part in this story was the most difficult one.
@DaKidsReact
@DaKidsReact 2 ай бұрын
As a first time watcher, Frodo is frustrating to watch. It’s been discussed a bunch that the full power of the ring wasn’t displayed as good as it should’ve been. We give praise to Frodo and his ability to carry the ring in our end discussion.
@wrpdcnfsn
@wrpdcnfsn 2 ай бұрын
If I remember correctly from the books: Denethor also had a Palintir and was basically manipulated through fear. He wasn't a good person but he was driven mad by the time you meet him in the story.
@arnooganesian2093
@arnooganesian2093 2 ай бұрын
31:55 as much as Sam carried everything, this was Frodo’s moment Despite him being at his weakest because of the ring, he still came up with a great idea to distract the orcs
@thomasb.anderson8113
@thomasb.anderson8113 2 ай бұрын
gandalf came with 3 eagles to moint doom in the hope that smeagol could be rescued too
@ksaint7
@ksaint7 2 ай бұрын
One of the greatest things about the LOTR is that you can answer just about any questions you have by reading the Letters of J.R.R Tolkien. He say’s himself that no one could have refused the lure of the Ring in the Chasm of Mount Doom. Letter 131 is the best source!
@ksaint7
@ksaint7 2 ай бұрын
I have to say that Sam is the hero! My favorite character.
@xsamchi
@xsamchi 2 ай бұрын
Sam knew he couldn't carry that ring again, the part where he gave back to frodo the ring, that's when he knew how hard it is to let go of the ring cuz of the temptation and how evil it is. That's why he said to frodo I can't carry it (the ring) for you, but I can carry you. .
@alternateuniverse422
@alternateuniverse422 2 ай бұрын
So the rock, paper, scissors at the beginning made me smile. For 24 years now my husband and I have used this method to quickly and fairly end unimportant disagreements, it's a marriage game changer honestly. As someone old and nerdy enough to have waited in line to see all of these on opening night, I have really enjoyed watching with you, thank you.
@TDoughter23
@TDoughter23 2 ай бұрын
Frodo bore the ever-corrupting temptation. You've seen Gandalf, Galadrial, Boromir, everyone being tempted by the ring. Even those who never touched it were tempted by it. We all point out that Frodo couldn't have made it without Sam, and that Sam was incorruptible. The first part is true, but after Sam revealed that the Orcs didn't get the ring he was tempted. He could save Mister Frodo from the ring, he just had to carry it for a while. Yes, he could carry it for Mister Frodo, just to let him get his rest. You can see the hesitation, but Sam passed it over. Not because he was stronger, but because it hadn't been in his hands long enough to dig into his mind.
@Sogekidan
@Sogekidan 2 ай бұрын
Something to consider, When Gandalf came with the eagles to get Frodo and the hero of the story Samwise, he brought 3 eagles when he only needed two. Something to consider.
@kathymeadus
@kathymeadus 2 ай бұрын
Fun Fact...... Legolas shot the arrow into the Bosun on the ship and that individual was the director Peter Jackson.
@comicbookman44
@comicbookman44 4 күн бұрын
You guys had me cracking up not wanting Frodo to be saved 😂 as a viewer/reader I always felt he was sometimes a frustrating character. You are so right about Sam: praise Sam’s name!
@DaKidsReact
@DaKidsReact 4 күн бұрын
@@comicbookman44 lmao yeah we tried to give Frodo a chance but that is super frustrating 🤦🏾‍♂️😂 that boy Sam is that guy!
@movoo6077
@movoo6077 2 ай бұрын
1:00:30 it was Frodo's Idea. sam asked "what do we do? and Frodo said "Hit me, Sam, start fighting". Cut Frodo some slack boys, i know it's hard to bare with him sometimes.but he is doing the best he can; dont underestimate the power of the ring, and it is stronger in Mordor.
@banonKING
@banonKING 2 ай бұрын
"They showed that?!" This ain't now kiddie film like Harry Potter.... this is LORD. OF. THE. RINGS.... this is a war movie. "Yo man! Take that shit off of him and come back for him later." The metaphor of the ring and what it represents and does to people went RIGHT over your head if you can't understand why Sam can't simply take the ring. The Ring itself won't let anyone go beyond it's influence. If Sam did ever take the Ring, he would have been corrupted like Frodo... faster because the Ring knew it was going to die.
@tonyusa5509
@tonyusa5509 2 ай бұрын
Frodo literally carried the evil inside him.. but he was annoying AF ? 😂
@iidamiller3268
@iidamiller3268 2 ай бұрын
Frodo's acting that way because of the ring. It's consuming him and trying to change him.
@2ndopp494
@2ndopp494 2 ай бұрын
I'm sorry but you guys were annoying while watching this. Do you not get what the ring was doing to Frodo? Corrupting his heart, poisoning him, and taking over him like a demon possession. If Sam would have carried the ring, he would have been destroyed too
@Zutang777
@Zutang777 2 ай бұрын
Woooooo we. are back. AGAIN!! for the finale!! I hope you two give your final opinion on the trilogy. this is a lot of peoples Goat Trilogy and movies. It’s definitely mine.
@DaKidsReact
@DaKidsReact 2 ай бұрын
Can’t wait for tou guys to enjoy!!!
@verpaule
@verpaule 2 ай бұрын
The only reason ring got destroyed was because in a twisted way... frodo made golum swear on the ring. And golum lied. Words around the ring are like magic spell that twist fate. Even if the ring wish not to be destroyed, it was ultimatly its mind corrupting power that led to its own destruction. Willingly destroying the ring is just impossible. If sam tried to push frodo, it would have corrupted him before. Only act of good around the ring lesser its influence.
@ercsey-ravaszferenc6747
@ercsey-ravaszferenc6747 2 ай бұрын
Also: Denethor is made out to be much more horrible in the movies than he really was. He wasn't that bad, but he made the mistake to look into the Palantir, the seeing stone. Sauron showed him horrible visions and literally drove him mad with despair. He wasn't a nice character but not nearly as bad as the movie shows him to be. Galadriel is one of the oldest and most powerful beings in Middle Earth. She was born before the Sun and the Moon existed, lived in the Undying Lands and she saw the two trees which gave light to the world before they were destroyed by the first Dark Lord, Morgoth, to whom Sauron was only a servant. The Maiar are even older, they literally participated in the creation of the world through music. Wisest of them is Olorin, whom we know as Gandalf :)
@DaKidsReact
@DaKidsReact 2 ай бұрын
Appreciate all the info!!! The lore goes so deep in the books it seems like!
@pencil6965
@pencil6965 2 ай бұрын
@@DaKidsReact ive never read the books either but just from research and talking to readers, tolkien crafted an elaborate universe that spanned many generations and civilizations. everything was detailed and he created multiple new languages as well. tehre's literally a reason for every single thing in the story, it was created with such purpose and meaning. truly remarkable
@TheHomesteadingHobbit
@TheHomesteadingHobbit 15 күн бұрын
​@@DaKidsReactIf you ever want to understand the lore a bit better, get the book The Simarillion.
@pavelsfik
@pavelsfik 2 ай бұрын
Its not Frodos mistake.. its actualy the magic of the ring. Closer you are to the mountain of doom, more impossible it is to cast the ring into the fire... same it wasnt mistake of Isildur ring survived...
@ishadowscorpioni2852
@ishadowscorpioni2852 2 ай бұрын
I will let you know, that Rohan did bring at least 6000 horse riders for that battle.
@sdev2749
@sdev2749 2 ай бұрын
I don't think you guys fully understand the problem for Frodo. He is deeply affected by the power of the ring and spends most of his time having to resist it. The toll on him is horrendous and no person should have to go through. Giving the ring to Sam cannot work because then both hobbits would be burdened, and kill each other to keep the ring. Frodo's task was NOT a task anyone could do, his ability to resist the ring was much greater than anyone else but it took its toll on Frodo. Sam was their to support him, protect him and get him to the mountain alive. I can see in your recap that you figured it out.
@victoriaweiss8667
@victoriaweiss8667 2 ай бұрын
Everyone forgets that Frodo was the ONLY ONE that could of kept the ring all those months with out turning evil. Yes, at the very end it took him but no one else would have even made it to the mountain. Sam played his part but he would have never made it very far because he was quick to anger and fight,where Frodo was always kind, innocent and pure of heart. That is why Frodo was a hero and all the people that were with him helped him get to the end.
@freakyalien5449
@freakyalien5449 2 ай бұрын
This!!!
@08Derrock
@08Derrock 2 ай бұрын
I get why yall dont respect Frodo. The movies didn't do the best job of portraying his sacrifice. Poor guy getting all this slander for carrying all that heavy burden all this time lol. Thanks for the reaction!
@Fluffyfoodog
@Fluffyfoodog 2 ай бұрын
Same here, when I first saw the movies I was the same about Frodo, then I read the books and got to see his POV and realised how messed up the ring made him. The movies really didn't do him any favours in that regard.
@JohnCameron624
@JohnCameron624 2 ай бұрын
It's not Frodo, guys.... it's the ring. It has taken over Frodo.
@ulricaandrae4381
@ulricaandrae4381 2 ай бұрын
Frodo would not have make it without Sam, but Sam would never get the ring that far by himself. Frodo was the ringbearer because he had the heart and strength for it. He deserves no hate. He volonteered to save all of Middle earth, he didn’t have to. But I loved watching your reaction! I always enjoy new LOtR fans.
@lestatwoods5747
@lestatwoods5747 2 ай бұрын
REMEMBER: faramir told Gandalf that frodo and Sam were with smeagol... that's why Gandalf sends three eagles...one was for smeagol too hoping he would beat the evil gollum within...😢😢😢😢
@ErikYehl
@ErikYehl 2 ай бұрын
Most genuine reaction ive seen. Loved all the videos. Keep it up
@mivgvovice3882
@mivgvovice3882 2 ай бұрын
The one Ring cons when you bear it, it corrupts you that why Sam cant take the ring. It controls you like Smeagol, Bilbo and Frodo. The rings give its full potential and power to Sauron alone. Their Duo is a give and take, Frodo cant make it without Sam, and Sam can do it either if he is the bearer. That's why Gandalf and Galadriel the wisest in the middle earth won't take the ring in the first place. Like Aragorn said on the fellowship of the rings "no one can wield the Ring only Sauron"
@jeffsherk7056
@jeffsherk7056 2 ай бұрын
These stories are so good that you can think about them for a lifetime. I haven't read the books for more than 40 years, and maybe I will read them again. Listening to you two is never a bad thing. You bring your individuality to the movies/shows you wish to see.
@TranscendentalMindX
@TranscendentalMindX Ай бұрын
Only for th eintelligent. Most people, the vast majority, see very surface level shit.
@Nightreaper86
@Nightreaper86 2 ай бұрын
lol whats annoying is seeing people not understand the ring was corrupting frodo. he was literally fighting an internal battle because of the ring. remember every man who touched the ring got corrupted. his choices were not his own by the end. just saying up until this last vid i loved ur reaction but to be fair watching the hate for frodo when u didnt think about what he was going threw is cringy no offense. but the hate u two have for frodo and not understanding what he was going threw. the ring literally became heavy at the end and was cutting into his neck. anyway with that have a good one.
@sallyramirez8938
@sallyramirez8938 2 ай бұрын
The Hobbit trilogy has to be next. Great reaction,, you two young men are just wonderful and always put a smile on this old hippie's face ✌️
@gremmlingee
@gremmlingee 2 ай бұрын
Gandalf knew that the ring never could be destroyed by will it must happen by accident or providence thats why he called it a "Fools hope". In the end it was the providence that destroyed the Ring, from Bilbo finding it, Bilbo not killing Gollum up to Frodo and his journey because of Ilúvatar. Tolkien wrote about it for the moment where once Frodo got the Ring to its destined point (on the brink of Doom in the hands of Gollum) "The other Power then took over: the Writer of the Story (by wich I do not mean myself), that one ever-present Person who is never absent an never named." -Tolkien Now this either states that Ilúvatar intervened or that the power of oaths (The Natural law of Middle Erath created by Eru) took over, because Gollum swore to never betray or harm the Master of the Ring. (Wich he did by biting the finger off of Frodo seconds after Frodo claimed to be the master of the ring by putting it on)
@cp368productions2
@cp368productions2 2 ай бұрын
Um, "where are the Urak Hai?" did you forget that Saruman was defeated and all the Urak Hai were killed? Anyone who comes in contact with a Nazgul is under the effect of The Black Breath which gives one the appearance of being dead, like a sleeping death. It is treated with King's Foil the same plant that Aragorn used to keep Frodo from passing into Wraith form until he got to Elrond. And Aragorn is the only human able to heal it, it is his time healing people in the healing halls that proved he was the rightful heir to the throne. Faramir and Eowyn ARE NOT cousins, they aren't even related. Eomer and Eowyn are siblings.
@tsitonio
@tsitonio 2 ай бұрын
It is kind of annoying how you guys didn't understand what the Ring did to Frodo and how strong and pure Frodo had to be to resist to the power of the Ring for so long.
@cristianguerra7279
@cristianguerra7279 2 ай бұрын
Now it's time for you to enjoy The Hobbit journey, you'll get a lot of answers from it
@guywhowatchesvideos-z2e
@guywhowatchesvideos-z2e 2 ай бұрын
Sam also sailed west upon the death of his wife. There, he would reunite with Frodo and pass away in peace.
@MaymoneyInDaBuilding
@MaymoneyInDaBuilding 2 ай бұрын
Favorite characters Eowyn Faramir Legolas Frodo Also Frodo carried a heavy burden. He needed the help of a true friend like Sam to get him there. That's why he left to the Undying Lands. The mark left on his pure soul before the ring was marked. It makes me cry to see him smile again when he gets on the ship.
@TyrantsRuin
@TyrantsRuin 2 ай бұрын
Just finished your full reactions to Lord Of The Rings. 1. You guys write down notes 2. Memorize alot of key details 3. You watched the extended edition 4. Watermark isn't bad at all You guys earned another subscription, ive had Lord of The Rings as a pillar in my entire 30 year life. Absolutely will check out your other videos.
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