Ferrari 365 GT/4 2+2 & Lamborghini Espada twin-test. One of these or a Daytona?

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@danpatterson8009
@danpatterson8009 3 жыл бұрын
Harry: "There's a combine with tracks- very jealous." Guy driving combine: "There's a Lamborghini- very jealous."
@mrmoss149
@mrmoss149 3 жыл бұрын
😆😆😆
@WalterFrancis
@WalterFrancis 3 жыл бұрын
May have been a Lamborghini combine? ;)
@maidenrulz73
@maidenrulz73 3 жыл бұрын
😂
@peppemberton9948
@peppemberton9948 3 жыл бұрын
Clarkson's got a Lamborghini tractor, so nah nah nah nah nah!! 🤠
@dominicsignorile9511
@dominicsignorile9511 3 жыл бұрын
‘It’s a tough job but someone has to do it and all that...’. One of these please... How are your furry little friends?
@philippemorvan3783
@philippemorvan3783 3 жыл бұрын
I have loved this car for so long and thought I was the only one! It is so cool to see one again, awesome video ... thanks for the great time :)
@seanhershey3390
@seanhershey3390 3 жыл бұрын
I'm team Espada...the Ferrari 2+2 is a close second..( I can see where the Bitter SC stole its design from)
@atom999
@atom999 3 жыл бұрын
Bit disappointed about the lack of performance from the 365, seems like it was not building up revs as fast as I would expect. Wonder if it is this particular example.
@johnj.baranski6553
@johnj.baranski6553 3 жыл бұрын
lamborghini called them Trucks for this reason..so he built his own cars.
@RoverWaters
@RoverWaters 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnj.baranski6553 no
@neilturner6749
@neilturner6749 3 жыл бұрын
I’d say the opposite! Performance was similar to a modern day BMW 320 Diesel. The example in the video sounded particularly energetic and crisp, certainly better than any I’ve even driven, which may be why they’re asking top money for it...
@pedward1313
@pedward1313 3 жыл бұрын
It probably needs tuning, running a bit too rich or lean. Maybe the carbs need a rebuild. Iain Tyrrell would likely know the cause.
@jfv65
@jfv65 3 жыл бұрын
The vibe i get from these cars: Ferrari 365/400 : old money tuxedo playboy car. Casino ride. Lambo Espada: new disco/rockstar car. Club scene ride.
@stuartsmith5308
@stuartsmith5308 3 жыл бұрын
Loving the Espada engine and chassis. Everything else i love in the Ferrari. How about a Ferrari 365 with a Lambo engine conversion ?
@BAAAASJE
@BAAAASJE 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful cars, great vid Harry!
@JLo1960
@JLo1960 3 жыл бұрын
The Ferrari is lovely but the Espada is otherworldly. Still looks like it came from outer space!. When are we going to see the Espada review Harry, now that it's perfect.
@KC-bv9kf
@KC-bv9kf 3 жыл бұрын
How can I get that opening exhaust note for my alarm clock? But seriously, compelling presentation as always.
@thomasmulhall4873
@thomasmulhall4873 3 жыл бұрын
Harry, please narrate a book such as War and Peace so that I can listen to you for hours!
@nickpage2949
@nickpage2949 3 жыл бұрын
Such a shame you couldn’t have run it down to Tuscany but I doubt Hairpin would have wanted the miles.
@johnjoseph911
@johnjoseph911 3 жыл бұрын
A high water mark and such an experience to drive and be driven in
@JA-ui3gg
@JA-ui3gg 3 жыл бұрын
It just has to be the Espada!
@eeclass20
@eeclass20 3 жыл бұрын
Pininfarina at their peak, this along with the Fiat 130 Coupe and Peugeot 504 Coupe.
@johnsmith1474
@johnsmith1474 3 жыл бұрын
Neither the Fiat nor Peugeot are worth a second look. You are talking about body styling, right?
@BobSaint
@BobSaint 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnsmith1474 Dude, 504 Coupe is a gorgeous car.
@user-kw9qu2gz8v
@user-kw9qu2gz8v 3 жыл бұрын
@@BobSaint yeah I agree, the 504 coupe has such a clean line.
@charliecroker7005
@charliecroker7005 3 жыл бұрын
Peugeot 604 deserves a mention- a four door version of the Fiat 130 coupe. I once had the job of patching the exhaust on a 130 coupe. Job took ages- I decided it needed an extended road test, to assess the extent of the required repairs.
@kevindawson9270
@kevindawson9270 3 жыл бұрын
@footballcoreano Agree. My dad bought one directly after having had a Ferrari 400. Both lovely cars.
@thomasbriggs4718
@thomasbriggs4718 3 жыл бұрын
Harry’s videos brighten my Sundays.
@francoislopin6372
@francoislopin6372 3 жыл бұрын
Believe it or not, I was in the Air France lounge yesterday, on my way to HK, and bumped into Iain Tyrrell coming back from South Africa. We had a nice chat about Harry’s Espada. And now I just arrived in my quarantine hotel room, where I’ll be confined for 14 days, a daunting prospect. But here I am with my cup noodles, checking what’s new on my channels and I find this ! Thanks Harry !
@alech8336
@alech8336 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant!
@MrLundefaret
@MrLundefaret 3 жыл бұрын
Cool story! In case you need tips: Retropower, Carfection, Grind Hard Plumming, Peter Windsor, 44 Teeth, are some :)
@JustinsWirelessWorld
@JustinsWirelessWorld 8 ай бұрын
I am in the market for 365/400/412 and is video has cemented my desire for Ferrari thanks Harry!
@alastairfaulds8184
@alastairfaulds8184 3 жыл бұрын
To anyone who appreciates good, crisp car design, the 365/400 series is one of the most beautiful 4 seater gts ever. So elegant, so practical.
@samthoma2719
@samthoma2719 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed, really feel like the 612 will go the same way in years to come
@johnsmith1474
@johnsmith1474 3 жыл бұрын
That's a stretch.
@maxsav007
@maxsav007 3 жыл бұрын
Beauty is in the eye i suppose. It really looks like a mix between an rx7 and an accord
@richallen2006
@richallen2006 3 жыл бұрын
Very good looking car. Better looking than a Fiat 130 coupe but not as pretty as a Lancia Gamma Coupe. They really are a fabulous looking car .
@GodotPozzo
@GodotPozzo 3 жыл бұрын
I've always appreciated it and never understood the hate it gets. It was a bit of a departure for Leonardo Fioravanti design wise but still elegant and understated. It was also the last car Enzo drove. The Leonardo Fioravanti era of Ferrari is my favorite era as that is what I grew up with. I don't even hate the Mondial as you're supposed to as a Farrari fan. Granted, it's my least favorite of his designs but he hit it out of the park with every other car he designed.
@hiepphambui3941
@hiepphambui3941 3 жыл бұрын
"I'm going too fast again. Going to have to cut that bit out." 😂
@davidmg1925
@davidmg1925 3 жыл бұрын
but he didnt did he I wondered that :->
@perpelle
@perpelle 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidmg1925 As long as you don't see the speedo it's alright.
@markbuckley4152
@markbuckley4152 3 жыл бұрын
Harry again proving why his channel is one of the best!
@pezzonovante888
@pezzonovante888 3 жыл бұрын
Those 365/400/412 Ferraris are so elegant, so beautiful. I'd love to see a Daytona review on Harry's Garage!
@Punisher9419
@Punisher9419 3 жыл бұрын
I love the way the numbe rplate is integrated into the design properly. No one does anything like that these days. A real attention to detail and super sharp looking. Makes a fantastic GT car.
@adamski101
@adamski101 3 жыл бұрын
They were much nicer looking number plates back then too! Now we just stick a horrid yellow plate on the back and it becomes the focal point rather than something integrated like you say. Down with that!
@mducheine2784
@mducheine2784 3 жыл бұрын
@@adamski101 Glad to read that, brother in arms! I emigrated out of The Netherlands when they switched to readable-from-space, fluorescent yellow McDonalds Drive-Thru plates. Whereas we had perfectly acceptable white on black plates but no, some civil servants have to start thinking up solutions to problems that weren't there in the first place. Even Pininfarina can't design something elegant with these roadworks scaffolding plates stuck on your car.
@Punisher9419
@Punisher9419 3 жыл бұрын
@@adamski101 I refuse to use a yellow number plate. I just have a black number plate with silver lettering on the rear and a stick on number plate on the front bonnet in black and silver lettering. Looks very smart. It passes it's MOT no problem which I find surprising but I guess they overlook it when it's a nice car.
@chestnut01111
@chestnut01111 3 жыл бұрын
@@adamski101 Silver on black number plates were illegal on cars in the UK form Jan '73, so middle of L reg. The law was mistakenly changed recently so that any car over 40 years old could have them, then it was changed almost back so that only 1979 or earlier can but not 1980 onwards. However having grown up around cars from early 70's on, they still look completely wrong on anything after 73. Yellow and white first appeared in 1967, so 67 to the end of 72 look right with either. If you have any classic car that is near standard looking, then surely it should look like it did when it was new, and to me and most people i know, that includes the number plates since they have to be fitted.
@AsinineComment
@AsinineComment 3 жыл бұрын
Barely. The plate is only given a reasonably natural looking position on the Ferrari, and then only at the rear. Look at the CAR magazine cover. You can see the front plate on the Ferrari is as awkwardly conspicuous as it was on almost any other car of the era.
@MdvK13979
@MdvK13979 3 жыл бұрын
Lovely summers day, two Italian 70's V12 sounding glorious on a twisty road. Completely forgot all my worries :) Thank you Harry!
@simonelliott5956
@simonelliott5956 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, but to me the Espada will always be head and shoulders above the 400, quite simply because you couldn’t mistake it for anything else. Whilst Pininfarina may have had the modern edge, it’s a really handsome car, but the Espada is way more out there and the epitome of an Italian GT of it’s time. Bertone got it bang on!
@boogeye1949
@boogeye1949 3 жыл бұрын
The Espada 24/7, it´s Sophia Loren on wheels!
@youhou2000youhou
@youhou2000youhou 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@redmr2na
@redmr2na 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah no, it's a Italian Built Volvo 240 DL wagon.
@richardharrold9736
@richardharrold9736 3 жыл бұрын
@@redmr2na huh?!
@-DC-
@-DC- 3 жыл бұрын
Espada will always be an absolute iconic design absolutely loved them since being a kid in the 70's, the Ferrari doesn't come close.
@jesper1406
@jesper1406 2 жыл бұрын
Agree to disagree 😊
@johnsmith1474
@johnsmith1474 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a little disappointed to see the Espada being used in a comparison vid, before getting an episode of it's own post rebuild. It was fun to see your excitement at the new pistons and prospective increased readline when it was in process, I hope you take it on a trip for us and thus complete the rebuild story.
@simonelliott5956
@simonelliott5956 3 жыл бұрын
Good point, Harry lets have an episode devoted to this car we have watched come together over the last year or so, Iain and his boys have worked their magic on it and we want to see what you like, what you still would change and how this wonderful car is to drive over where it started out. I am guessing you have plans for something special in the future!
@colinashby3775
@colinashby3775 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed, I have been waiting for a post rebuild video, long road test to tell us how different it is. @harrys garage
@jesper1406
@jesper1406 2 жыл бұрын
Don't worry... He's not done with it...
@johnandrews3568
@johnandrews3568 3 жыл бұрын
That Espada is just so damned sweet! It may not be as refined as the Ferrari but I'll take the Espada all day long, every day.
@Cre8Lounge
@Cre8Lounge 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like a dodge
@stephen300o6
@stephen300o6 3 жыл бұрын
Remember the Lamborghini's engine is running virtually Miura specs, so if the Ferrari had a Daytona spec engine it would not feel quite as languid.
@TheAslakVind
@TheAslakVind 3 жыл бұрын
Rember Ian´s begging: "Please don´t take it to 9000. Yea it can, but..." :)
@RoverWaters
@RoverWaters 3 жыл бұрын
no Miura specs, the camshaft is Espada
@richardharrold9736
@richardharrold9736 3 жыл бұрын
@@RoverWaters Harry had it uprated to Miura specs.
@RoverWaters
@RoverWaters 3 жыл бұрын
@@richardharrold9736 no Miura specs, the camshaft is Espada
@richardharrold9736
@richardharrold9736 3 жыл бұрын
@@RoverWaters no, it has Miura cams in it now...
@jesperhvid9667
@jesperhvid9667 3 жыл бұрын
Both of these vehicles just exude class, remnants of a golden age of motoring. Wonderful video as always, thank you Harry and son.
@Pianoguy32
@Pianoguy32 3 жыл бұрын
i think its such good value because Rover copied the front end.
@thefamilyrobbo
@thefamilyrobbo 3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣
@shirleyboy8859
@shirleyboy8859 3 жыл бұрын
Ahhhh Not just me then..... SD1 I love them... :-)))
@colingarner6175
@colingarner6175 3 жыл бұрын
The Espada has always been on my wish list ever since they came out .
@lutomson3496
@lutomson3496 3 жыл бұрын
I never liked the styling though and as a Lamborghini owner, I contemplated buying one but didnt...never rode in one though or drove one, this video may have changed my mind...I may look for one now!
@adamski101
@adamski101 3 жыл бұрын
I think the styling is awkward. Harry loves his but I can never bring myself to fall for the Espada.
@earlsworthdove
@earlsworthdove 3 жыл бұрын
@@adamski101 you would fall for it if you see it! stunning car and lucky to have owned one
@maxleoncini
@maxleoncini 3 жыл бұрын
Enjoy the club😉
@stewartshackleton7825
@stewartshackleton7825 3 жыл бұрын
I can’t wait to tell my friend with a Morris Minor Traveller that his engine has the same compression ratio as a Ferrari!
@marklittler784
@marklittler784 3 жыл бұрын
Wondered why some have a horse sticker in the back window. 😂😃😂😃
@darrenjones3681
@darrenjones3681 3 жыл бұрын
It did when it started life knowing BMC not for long
@marklittler784
@marklittler784 3 жыл бұрын
@@darrenjones3681 😂😃😁😀😃😂😁😄😃😄😂😁
@jkent9915
@jkent9915 3 жыл бұрын
Cool story.. My truck has double the compression ratio of either of them. 17.5:1
@marknelson5929
@marknelson5929 3 жыл бұрын
I've always loved this underrated Ferrari, its styling is superb and is such good value as you say. I've had direct experience of this car way back in the late 70s when my elder brother had one (he was in advertising). It was in a lovely light metallic blue with blue leather interior. He turned up at my parents place with it one day where I was still living in my late teens, and threw the keys to me and said take it for a drive. He had a lot of faith in his little brother as he didn't accompany me! I was alone in this stunning car and swanned around the suburb, the whole time with my right foot trembling on the accelerator pedal, due I guess to a whole number of reasons... To a young driver who owned a beaten up Mini, it was quite an experience.
@FREEDOOOOM
@FREEDOOOOM 3 жыл бұрын
I would definitely take the Espada, because I have a Daytona in my Gran Turismo 6 garage...
@johnsmith1474
@johnsmith1474 3 жыл бұрын
In fantasyland, William Wallace was a hero.
@FREEDOOOOM
@FREEDOOOOM 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnsmith1474 Exactly!
@mjiles2922
@mjiles2922 3 жыл бұрын
Harry’s road tests all ways bring back memories of when I was at school in Burford as he always seams to be stopped outside my old first year classroom, where I used to sit I was able to look past the teacher and look through the window and watch the cars going over the bridge.
@chriswalker8378
@chriswalker8378 3 жыл бұрын
If you ever get a chance to test a 275gtb/4 or 512bbi I would love to see them
@RoverWaters
@RoverWaters 3 жыл бұрын
bbi sucks
@atom999
@atom999 3 жыл бұрын
@@RoverWaters no Ferrari sucks my friend, they are all glorious
@rjnation5042
@rjnation5042 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Harry, like you I got my Espada well before the value went mad, but I also have a 412 in my shed, love driving ether one, you're still doing better than me with the rest of your fleet, Rj in Oz
@peterv3642
@peterv3642 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a 412 owner, too (manual, of course). The bank balance won't stretch to an Espada but I'm not complaining, no other Ferrari I'd rather have!
@RedC220
@RedC220 3 жыл бұрын
I've always had a soft spot for the 400i. It was the first Ferrari I ever saw in real life and it really made an impression on my childhood love for cars.
@John_O_Maoilearca
@John_O_Maoilearca 3 жыл бұрын
Love this period and style of design - lancia gamma coupe, fiat 130 coupe and Rolls Royce Camargue - all beautiful
@jfv65
@jfv65 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, it was quite a succesful era in car design. Lots of succesful car styling studios like pininfarina, giugiaro, bertone, ghia, ital design, michelotti, etc. And both pininfarina and bertone were on the top of their game back then. But then again, there were hardly any restrictions/limitations with regard to crash safety.
@joneldridge5513
@joneldridge5513 3 жыл бұрын
Now theres a car to critique, Harry.. the Lancia Gamma Coupe ie....
@simonjohnson1
@simonjohnson1 3 жыл бұрын
@@joneldridge5513 I had a Gamma. It was a lovely car and it lasted for two whole weeks before one of the head gaskets failed
@markwillenbrock
@markwillenbrock 3 жыл бұрын
I had a Gamma Coupe and loved it. I spent a day with a 365GT4 2+2 and still think it was the highlight of my motoring life. But a Camargue - never. I'm sure Pininfarina got it right, but somewhere at Crewe (or Pressed Steel) the proportions went awry. I still look at 130 coupé's though!
@norton750commando
@norton750commando 3 жыл бұрын
Throw in a Bitter SC, almost a carbon copy of the Ferrari.
@zk9058
@zk9058 3 жыл бұрын
Love these old v12s. Sad to think that future generations will likely never appreciate or full understand the beauty of a ‘60’s/‘70’s Ferrari v12…….the power…the sound….the smell. It’s art…..and it deserves to be celebrated for eternity!
@kiwiwifi
@kiwiwifi 2 жыл бұрын
Good new! The younger generation have stepped up to the plate and shown strong support and have led the revival of these cast offs. Clearly they don’t mind paying for the acquisition and preservation that have resulted in the interest that all the generations can enjoy in their living rooms thanks to the professional media and collectors alike.
@AleksandrHalas
@AleksandrHalas 3 жыл бұрын
I was born in 1981, it's a little harder for me to return to the 70s Watching your video on Sunday is already like a church ritual for me
@rumrnr78
@rumrnr78 3 жыл бұрын
Bummer, I was gonna gift you a ‘72 Dino, ha, ha!
@danny355
@danny355 3 жыл бұрын
14:07 Wow imagine being able to hold the loud pedal to the floor for 15 seconds in a modern Ferrari. You'd be doing 170mph. A lot to be said for having less power and more time to enjoy accelerating.
@christophero1969
@christophero1969 2 жыл бұрын
Buy a Yugo...
@IntegraDIY
@IntegraDIY 3 жыл бұрын
I love the NACA ducts on the hood of the Lamborghini, very sporty and functional
@SB-vb8ch
@SB-vb8ch 3 жыл бұрын
Was the Ferrari actually running properly? Hard to make out on the video but didn't quite seem on song, especially at higher revs.
@carlosravel
@carlosravel 3 жыл бұрын
I come for entertainment, but stay for the education. Thanks for sharing your wealth of knowledge Harry!
@chrispenn715
@chrispenn715 3 жыл бұрын
What a dilemma having to choose :-). Has to be the Espada for me - still looks like a spaceship.....
@russcooke5671
@russcooke5671 3 жыл бұрын
Why how many spaceships have you seen
@chrispenn715
@chrispenn715 3 жыл бұрын
@@russcooke5671 when I was abducted by aliens :-)
@P.Galore
@P.Galore 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love the styling of the 365 and 400 coupes with tall greenhouse glass. Looks like ample leg room in back for adults too!
@johnsmith1474
@johnsmith1474 3 жыл бұрын
The Ferrari looks crude by Ferrari standards. Little flow, no curves.
@peterv3642
@peterv3642 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful and very usable cars!
@twstrchasr
@twstrchasr 3 жыл бұрын
The Ferrari for me. I've always been a big fan of the 365/400/412 series. An elegant, timeless design. The Espada has always been an oddball design in my eyes.
@BRAINFxck10
@BRAINFxck10 2 жыл бұрын
I think they were on Acid when they designed the Espada 😂
@davidmg1925
@davidmg1925 3 жыл бұрын
I just got the feeling that silver one was a bit off colour. The moment the floored it should have been off like a rocket.
@neilturner6749
@neilturner6749 3 жыл бұрын
Nope, they really were as sluggish as hell ! Ferrari’s quoted power output was a huge exaggeration. The one in the video sounded like a particularly strong rebuilt example with a lovely crisp engine note that’s virtually impossible to retain with so many carbs and cylinders to keep in tune.
@paulgart
@paulgart 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with you, I think it sounded like it had a bit of a misfire 👀
@bjmcguir
@bjmcguir 3 жыл бұрын
Don’t understand all the love for the Espada, which looks like it’s carrying a backpack. Much prefer the Ferrari.
@dennisl5067
@dennisl5067 3 жыл бұрын
I have a soft spot for the Ferrari 365/400/412. For me it was the futuristic grand tourer.
@adrianchell
@adrianchell 3 жыл бұрын
I now want to invent time travel, go back to the 1970s and buy a handful of Daytonas for £10 grand apiece.
@Nico_lente
@Nico_lente 3 жыл бұрын
What about a bunch of Dino 246 GT and GTS for GBP 6245- 6620...
@matthewgodwin3050
@matthewgodwin3050 3 жыл бұрын
Get in the queue my friend, get in the queue.
@campervanman5340
@campervanman5340 3 жыл бұрын
The four cylinder ferrari race cars from earlier were about 5k. About 5m now.
@HawkMillFarm
@HawkMillFarm 3 жыл бұрын
I could just see in the Motor mag how much my first car was when new, a lowly Avenger DL at £951, second hand I paid £700. Espada looked instantly to have a nicer driving position and sound too, it instantly made me smile. Nice to see a bit of farming crossover.
@marklittler784
@marklittler784 3 жыл бұрын
Mind you with an Avenger there would be movement on bargaining on list price surely?
@johnv4866
@johnv4866 3 жыл бұрын
If I had the money, I would have someone build a modern intepretation of the Ferrari built for me, I think the lines are stunning.
@jareknowak8712
@jareknowak8712 3 жыл бұрын
RestoMod?
@johnv4866
@johnv4866 3 жыл бұрын
@@jareknowak8712 I don't have the money so it's unlikely to ever happen. Forgive me if this is blasphemy, but I would do a restomod. I would want a more modern seating position, and a motor that gets double-digit gas mileage. No, it won't sound so glorious as a Ferrari 12-cylinder, but I would have a beautiful automobile that I can drive everyday.
@atom999
@atom999 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnv4866 I think you should check out Ferrari 412 by Ares design.
@philipb9088
@philipb9088 3 жыл бұрын
My Dad had an automatic 400i from around 05 til 2012 I think. My mom hated it, he was a superhero in my eyes as I was 6 years old when he got it, and it was constantly broken. I remember my dad panicking every time he was driving it (which was rarely, the Ferrari garage probably did more mileage testing it after every repair then he ever did) as the passenger side footwell would soak up whenever there was a bit of rain. Had to sell it to pay for a family heirloom 190 Sl his favourite uncle owned for 30+ years, unfortunately at the time when they were ~25k€...
@tony8074
@tony8074 3 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing a 365 GT 4/ 2+2 in a magazine. I was teenager then and read that article so much the magazine fell apart. That is still one my favourite Ferraris . If my memory is correct it was that colour silver and had a tan leather interior.
@siliconjim2554
@siliconjim2554 3 жыл бұрын
You have uprated the Espada engine though. Would your comments be different with the standard pistons and springs? Guess i should’ve waited till the video finished :)
@salvofarnia8046
@salvofarnia8046 3 жыл бұрын
Love the Espada, that engine sound, wow.
@oiramsq73
@oiramsq73 3 жыл бұрын
Things I loved about this video: Loved the wide-open roof of the Espada. Loved the suede dash on the 365… and I loved that HM wears a Panerai AND an Apple Watch at the same time. Kudos to you!
@rickvesny5541
@rickvesny5541 3 жыл бұрын
Dang! You're right! Totally overlooked it. Harry... a guy's guy!
@waclosh
@waclosh 3 жыл бұрын
Freaking Panerai spotter! Happy to see someone else notice that!
@oiramsq73
@oiramsq73 3 жыл бұрын
@@waclosh I saw the 390 a while ago… it was the Apple Watch AND the Panerai that got me.
@shadowred1980
@shadowred1980 3 жыл бұрын
Do you think that Ferrari would benefit from Ian having a look over it ? Sounds through the headphones, like it needs the carbs setting up. Thanks for the video.
@muniman9527
@muniman9527 3 жыл бұрын
I agree, thought the same… well spotted
@TheAslakVind
@TheAslakVind 3 жыл бұрын
A trip down to Ian Tyrrell would cure that. MAybe some 40´s instead of the 38, it seems a bit sretsrained in factory spec.
@neilturner6749
@neilturner6749 3 жыл бұрын
Well, knowing these models quite well, I’d say the one in the video sounded unusually crisp and might the best-sorted one around. The engine is an absolute pig to live with and comes out of tune every few hundred miles. Smoothness hugely depends on a particular day’s ambient air pressure and temperature.
@campervanman5340
@campervanman5340 3 жыл бұрын
I know what rover copied now, 365gtb front with a daytona rear, mess it up a bit and voilà, rover SD1.
@ruimpinho
@ruimpinho 3 жыл бұрын
Daytona, without thinking twice.
@PeteCourtier
@PeteCourtier 3 жыл бұрын
Same here. That Ferrari is stunning with soul in spades.
@dragospahontu
@dragospahontu 3 жыл бұрын
@@PeteCourtier but the gearbox is badly designed
@RoverWaters
@RoverWaters 3 жыл бұрын
nobody asked
@ruimpinho
@ruimpinho 3 жыл бұрын
@@RoverWaters it is literally in the title mate.
@stevesteve1965
@stevesteve1965 3 жыл бұрын
Always wanted the 365/400, a gentlemans continental mile muncher. Elegant unfussy slightly anonymous and discreet. Cool... And I'd have the Jag too... If I've got that much money.
@rumrnr78
@rumrnr78 3 жыл бұрын
Buy GME and AMC and hold, no financial advice
@pedward1313
@pedward1313 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! What a fantastic video. Two utterly gorgeous cars together. That’s one of your best, Harry. Thanks very much!
@carlzeiss4871
@carlzeiss4871 3 жыл бұрын
Daytona spyder preferably but if not 400i. The later 400i was the top of the range Ferrari at the time was 44000
@tonyotton3028
@tonyotton3028 3 жыл бұрын
Harry, your Espada is one of the most beautiful cars I have ever seen. I loved them from the day they were released. Thanks for all your great videos.
@cav4290
@cav4290 2 жыл бұрын
The automatic should also not be overlooked! Even more usable and at (still) a good discount. Get them while you can, especially the very early ones or last iteration 412 (only 576 built).
@howardmckenna
@howardmckenna 3 жыл бұрын
My mum had a boyfriend (sugar daddy!) with an Espada. Red with gold Campagnolo Knock-offs. I adored that car and still have a soft spot for Espadas.
@maidenrulz73
@maidenrulz73 3 жыл бұрын
I do as well.....I used to own one.....Red with gold campagnolo knock-offs....i didn’t drive it too much tho...there was a young cutie I was dating at the time was driving it all the time
@howardmckenna
@howardmckenna 3 жыл бұрын
@@maidenrulz73... He'd be long dead now!!!
@vernonbennettiii3646
@vernonbennettiii3646 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, and a very helpful analysis. Still, I think I'll stick with my Jags. Cheaper to acquire and maintain here in Southwestern Michigan (USA). Keep up the fabulous content!
@williampresley3000
@williampresley3000 3 жыл бұрын
The guy in the Lamborghini jealous of the tracks on the combine. Gotta love Harry.
@AndrasMihalyi
@AndrasMihalyi 3 жыл бұрын
when you look up combine prices, you'll know, why 😁
@williampresley3000
@williampresley3000 3 жыл бұрын
@@AndrasMihalyi I hear that. Just funny the guy in the Lamborghini happens to be a farmer.
@benzinapaul7416
@benzinapaul7416 3 жыл бұрын
Wonder how the 365 GTC/4 would compare to the Espada?
@808v1
@808v1 3 жыл бұрын
the 365 makes me think of the video for Human After All by Daft Punk, first time I saw one, and I loved it.
@michaelsummerell8618
@michaelsummerell8618 3 жыл бұрын
Of the 2 cars I prefer the looks of the Ferrari - just so clean, crisp and neat. As to whether it's a better car than the Lambo, I cannot say as I've driven neither of them. As for the Daytona, I really like how this 365 GT/4 sits somewhat below the radar of its more expensive brother. A car that would raise a smile for those in the know, but draw no attention from those who don't. Subtle, elegant and refined - I like it.
@GM-fh5jp
@GM-fh5jp 3 жыл бұрын
Lovely model Ferrari, I've always thought the shape was perfect for a gentleman's express GT. The Daytona however is streets ahead of it in performance, there really is no comparison if you look at the performance numbers. The Espada might be quicker than the 365 but a Daytona would eat the Espada for breakfast. Nice video Harry, thanks for posting.
@Brascofarian
@Brascofarian 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that the Espada is a special car, but the exterior styling has never caught me. I'm not saying it's an ugly car, I just don't get it. The front is a bit American muscle car, the back is a bit Citroen, it's low but not especially sporty looking... confusing The Ferrari, straight away I can see what they're going for. The dimensions work, it's got crisp lines, it's like a well tailored suit. They know their market. It's high end sports casual, a professional in chinos, deck shoes and Ray Bans. Honestly though, I'd rather have the Jaaaaag.
@SingSurfStrum
@SingSurfStrum 3 жыл бұрын
I love that Harry always wears an italian watch when reviewing the italian cars or Mille Miglia trip….Class
@lukestocks4370
@lukestocks4370 3 жыл бұрын
Always been my 2nd fav Ferrari after the 308GT4. Like this better than the 400 auto. These videos are amazing
@reinmansmith
@reinmansmith 3 жыл бұрын
Loving the camera shots of two beautiful classics running together 👍 … have to agree with Harry (as ever!) that the difference in prices between similar cars never ceases to amaze me and if you’re looking for a classic car to enjoy and drive then why not go for something like the Ferrari and have the spare money in the bank to pay for fantastic trips away in what is still a gorgeous car? ….. having said that the Espada is still the more beautiful car if value for money isn’t an issue! 😊
@Philcopson
@Philcopson Жыл бұрын
No, the Espada isn't more beautiful - in fact I'm not sure that it's beautiful at all. The 365 is poised and elegant - Melania Trump in automotive form - whereas the Espada is a kooky Kamala Harris. You're right about value for money though; if you can't run to a Daytona / 275GTB / 330LMB etc, then the 365 ticks all the classic '60s boxes - front-engined V12, 4-cams, 6 Webers, knock-off alloys with triple-eared spinners etc. Just fit a wood-rimmed wheel - (of the right sort, obviously - there is a special place in hell for clowns who despoil nice cars with "Moto Shita" steering-wheels...) - and you have a beautiful, if rather thirsty, means of getting to Goodwood. (This much I'm happy to share - Melania's number I keep to myself....)
@Oliverdobbins
@Oliverdobbins 3 жыл бұрын
The Ferrari 365: Driven by men on their way along the Riviera to drink a glass of wine and admire great art. The Lamborghini Espada: Driven by men on their way along the Riviera to see Sophia Loren.
@zippy963
@zippy963 3 жыл бұрын
I remember back in the 80s that reviews of the later 400/412 were pretty scathing. (Old design by then.) All the reviews said it was an overpriced truck! I however loved the look of them and they have aged very well.
@simes205
@simes205 3 жыл бұрын
Weren’t they autos? That was part of the issue.
@zippy963
@zippy963 3 жыл бұрын
@@simes205 they were available as autos weren't they, probably a 3 speed GM unit.
@oldanslo
@oldanslo 3 жыл бұрын
@@zippy963 The good old GM Turbo-Hydramatic 400, also used by Jaguar in some XJ12 and XJ-S models and Rolls-Royce in the Silver Shadow and Silver Spirits of the same era.
@peterv3642
@peterv3642 3 жыл бұрын
The autos weren't great but manuals were always available. Only 24 RHD manual 412s were ever made - mine is one of them. It appeared in Fast Lane mag when new and they loved it!
@Sanpedranoazul
@Sanpedranoazul 3 жыл бұрын
Gorgeous Ferrari! Harry we need a glorious Road Trip please, the ones that ONLY you can put up with 🥳🥳👏🏻
@phils2180
@phils2180 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! Hard to believe the 2+2 was £2k more than the Daytona, one of the nicest looking Ferraris ever IMO. Must've been down purely to build costs, air con, PS, more luxurious interior etc. The difference in value now is staggering!! If you don't include the almost identical, later 400 models the 2+2 is rarer but without being unkind it doesn't really look anything special unlike the instantly recognisable Daytona and of course the Espada, it just looks "different" as opposed to stunning. Of the two featured, the Espada please! Great video👍.
@Timmayytoo
@Timmayytoo 3 жыл бұрын
I have always been a fan of the 365 - still a handsome shape.
@stevenrobertson7643
@stevenrobertson7643 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, Harry. The engines are actually not the same in the 365 GT4 2+2 and the Daytona despite the same internal dimensions and 4 cams etc. Of course, as well as having the dry mump and downdraft bigger Webers, the Daytona has a transaxle whereas the 365 GT4 2+2 has a front mounted gearbox attached to the engine. Wheelbase = 2700mm on the 365 GT4 2+2 and 2400 mm on the Daytona. The 365 GT4 2+2 is more mechanically alike its predecessor, the 365 GTC 4 which is also a 2+2, but less roomy in the back with a 2500 mm wheelbase.
@roscoejones4515
@roscoejones4515 3 жыл бұрын
Ferrari: "Oh, that's a nice looking car. Oh wow, it's a Ferrari!"
@paulhunter123
@paulhunter123 3 жыл бұрын
you wouldnt say that looking at them recently
@andyclark3491
@andyclark3491 3 жыл бұрын
That Ferrari looks amazing. The Espada still looks weird. I reckon Harry made the wrong choice
@S-Ltd1000
@S-Ltd1000 3 жыл бұрын
I always loved those 365s when I was a kid growing up in the 70s. Thanks Harry.👍
@davidfuters7152
@davidfuters7152 3 жыл бұрын
Bloody farmer on country roads eh ? Bet it was friggin Clarkson , those wanna be tele farmers oak o friggin pain 😂😂😂😂😂
@bilgalninga9538
@bilgalninga9538 3 жыл бұрын
This is one review for the ages. Wonderful to see these back to back reviews. Wonder if 412 would offer a bit more performance to match the Espada?
@peterv3642
@peterv3642 3 жыл бұрын
As a 412 owner, I reckon it would close the gap. Love mine
@chrispenn715
@chrispenn715 3 жыл бұрын
25 years ago these Ferraris and Lamborghini's would turn up at auction for less than £10k - ok so they were often autos and a bit scruffy - still wish I'd bought one.....
@chrispenn715
@chrispenn715 3 жыл бұрын
@Uncle Gilbert well I had a Rolls Royce at the time which cost £10k at the time - but was cheaper to maintain..... :-)
@schiltz371
@schiltz371 3 жыл бұрын
having the steering on the wrong side of those Italian cars takes at least 20k off the value
@RoverWaters
@RoverWaters 3 жыл бұрын
TRUE
@neilturner6749
@neilturner6749 3 жыл бұрын
Nope it adds considerable value. The UK market is now one of the worlds richest and there were never enough RHD examples of this vintage exotica built to satisfy modern demand for classics
@schiltz371
@schiltz371 3 жыл бұрын
@@neilturner6749 you might be right, we do have a retard as president now whose likely to tank the American economy like his buddy Obama did. im sure it wont have any effect on the world economy.......again.
@detonator2112
@detonator2112 2 жыл бұрын
With these old vintage Porsches and Ferraris it's all about the looks. Daytona costs so much because it's an icon which that Miami Vice replica made even more famous. You can buy three or even four Porsche 996's for the price of ONE good low mileage 964 or 993 Carrera example. 996 is faster and more advanced but it's all about the looks... compared to air cooled 996 is just the red headed not-so-handsome stepchild. Same with this Ferrari. It's not that good looking. Cheers. Interesting video again.
@palbrekke9455
@palbrekke9455 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for another great video, Harry (and Charlie)! The 365 seemed suprisingly lethargic and didn't pick up revs as quickly as expected. With the hesitation on first acceleration, too, one might suspect the engine hasn't been perfectly tuned? Would have loved to hear your friend Iain Tyrrell's opinion of that particular example - and see/hear if he couldn't make it perform slightly better :)
@neilturner6749
@neilturner6749 3 жыл бұрын
You’re not familiar with these then. It wasn’t perfect, but the one in the video seemed particularly strong and crisp-pulling compared to how they usually are. You can perfectly tune them, but within a week it’s all out of synch again. Same issue happens if the weather changes. The engine is a nightmare to maintain and real-world performance is about the same as a 2 litre diesel Mondeo (0-60 in 8.5 secs and top speed 130).
@giuseppegiacomoni7058
@giuseppegiacomoni7058 Жыл бұрын
Harry? Compression ratio's are widely misunderstood? Porsche 911's were running 6.75:1 A lower compression ratio makes for a more reliable engine! A high compression ratio gives better fuel economy and its not about power? Power from having a high compression ratio works with the exhaust system in helping it scavenge the cylinder and in creating sufficient back pressure. Don't make the mistake everyone does in confusing High Compression Ratio with Flame Travel? Pass this onto Ken Tyrell and see what he says?
@scoobers90
@scoobers90 3 жыл бұрын
You can get in the ballpark of the Daytona’s feel and power with the 2+2. But when you get out and look back, you aren’t looking at a Daytona. That’s what makes the Daytona a legend.
@chesswizard31
@chesswizard31 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly, the 2+2/400s don't look half as cool.
@darrenjones3681
@darrenjones3681 3 жыл бұрын
@@chesswizard31 yeah agree totally, you look at the nose and as your eyes track past the doors it’s all a bit of a disappointment
@martinhibbert1428
@martinhibbert1428 3 жыл бұрын
@@darrenjones3681 Then I take a look at my bank balance and it’s £400k to the good. I think I could make do with a 2+2. Harry at his best again.
@jasdig567
@jasdig567 3 жыл бұрын
Yes totally agree especially the Daytona Spyder, with the top down, that is even more gorgeous and is around 3 times the value of a Gtb4 today.
@rosewood1
@rosewood1 3 жыл бұрын
I owned a good 400i a very fast car indeed. Up to about 60 mph or 100k the suspension was very firm the car was nice to drive around. However beyond 60 mph the engine howled the suspension smoothed out and it really flew. Great handling. The Espada I found was disappointing and not nice to drive long distance. Looked great but no where the quality of the Ferrari but that could have been the different cars I was comparing. My Ferrari was very good. The only thing I disliked about the Ferrari was the Magneti Marreli CDI ignition setup. You could not buy new modules and they controlled RPM limits. Great review Harry to compare 2 magnificent true classics.
@paulmartinwoods
@paulmartinwoods 3 жыл бұрын
Espada, beautiful, elegant, interior, engine, what a stunning car!!
@jfv65
@jfv65 3 жыл бұрын
I loved the Marzal concept car from day 1, after that the Espada never really did it for me. However nice it actually is.
@chrisloukes424
@chrisloukes424 3 жыл бұрын
Nice one Harry. Always loved the drop-dead gorgeous profile of these Ferrari 365 GT4 2+2. Perhaps you could do a revisit with a 400 Auto? I'd love to hear your thoughts...
@jonnoMoto
@jonnoMoto 3 жыл бұрын
Out of those 2, the espada. I can't help but see an sd1 when looking at the 365. Also prefer the soundtrack
@benzinapaul7416
@benzinapaul7416 3 жыл бұрын
Lambo did pinch the front end styling of the 365/400 for the Urus though....
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