2021 BMW M3 Competition review. Is this actually the new M5?

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@chrisreadman4282
@chrisreadman4282 3 жыл бұрын
Harry is like your dad. Knows everything and explains what you need to know about cars.
@billyhighfill
@billyhighfill 3 жыл бұрын
I think I'm going to start calling him that. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@mrchestwell
@mrchestwell 3 жыл бұрын
My dad had an affair with my auntie before running off to join a religious cult
@billymonkey111
@billymonkey111 3 жыл бұрын
My dad drives a 2003 XJ8, and describes it as "pretty pokey"......
@badlarry172
@badlarry172 3 жыл бұрын
sod it i'm swapping mine (string vest and roll up) for Harry (own farm and big garage)
@fiouable
@fiouable 3 жыл бұрын
My dad speaks clearly and I can understand what he says.
@erniccl1
@erniccl1 3 жыл бұрын
What I love about Harry garage is the fact that he is clear succinct and no over the top facial expressions and the ridiculous exclamations of pleasure..
@marwood1969
@marwood1969 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, or thumbnails of him standing next to a car with his arms and legs splayed, grinning like a nitwit. His mature, calm delivery is an absolute tonic. My favourite car channel by a mile.
@integralexpo
@integralexpo 3 жыл бұрын
FACTS
@hazardeur
@hazardeur 3 жыл бұрын
@@marwood1969 you might like Savagegeese then too. Worth checking out.
@93455Driver
@93455Driver 3 жыл бұрын
@@hazardeur SG has some great pithy honest commentary as well.
@JAK3080
@JAK3080 3 жыл бұрын
Throttlehouse has entered the chat
@nepaleseman1010
@nepaleseman1010 3 жыл бұрын
I love Harry's reviews on any car that he does. No exaggeration or BS just a real informed review. I love how Harry does not just focus on the positives but also he is not frightened to discuss and shortcomings. I too feel the M3's are now as a large as an M5.
@muzman777
@muzman777 3 жыл бұрын
And....
@asdreww
@asdreww 3 жыл бұрын
He's a long standing respected motoring journalist who has a day job & isn't dependent on 'long termers' loaned from manufacturers to actually be able to get about, or worried about being in-favour like most other youtube 'influencers'!. Definitely a class above.
@DigitalJunior2003
@DigitalJunior2003 3 жыл бұрын
Love your calm and methodical manner Harry.
@HG504X
@HG504X 3 жыл бұрын
The BMW M2 is the new M3. The new M3 is basically an M5. The new M4 is basically an M6
@noodlemcdoodle4385
@noodlemcdoodle4385 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds about right
@Petrospect
@Petrospect 3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking about exactly this as he said it. Fuck off BMW. Go back to your early 00s lineup. Please.
@johnmcdonald1647
@johnmcdonald1647 3 жыл бұрын
Mmmmmm
@DiscoFang
@DiscoFang 3 жыл бұрын
@@Petrospect How is choice a problem? Or wont your brain allow you to "regress" to a lower number?
@netweed09
@netweed09 3 жыл бұрын
Good! Bring them all to me please! =)
@englishmaninfrance661
@englishmaninfrance661 3 жыл бұрын
Talking of size , the VW Polo is now the size of a Golf , the Ford Fiesta is now the size of a Focus . All cars seem to be getting bigger . Mini Countryman is MASSIVE
@Stop..carry-on
@Stop..carry-on 3 жыл бұрын
Very true it’s stupid
@iconicon5642
@iconicon5642 3 жыл бұрын
@@Stop..carry-on No it isn't people are getting bigger to put it kindly.
@davidmg1925
@davidmg1925 3 жыл бұрын
Take I look at a mk1 escort 1300.
@alexmaddox2255
@alexmaddox2255 3 жыл бұрын
Very true. As young children, my sister and I would travel round everywhere in the back of a three door Escort (mk3) and it was perfectly fine. Just enough space for all. People have become accustom to huge interior space now, so cars have grown.
@dragospahontu
@dragospahontu 3 жыл бұрын
@@Stop..carry-on cars are too small, have you ever been in Moscow? The Land Cruiser L200 is a regular hatchback over there😅
@gavinspooner3271
@gavinspooner3271 3 жыл бұрын
I always like the way Harry points out the negatives
@jamesterakazis6624
@jamesterakazis6624 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty easy to do here....no ? 1) Helga's getting heavier and heavier 2) Helga needs a plastic surgeon 3) Helga needs a cosmetic dentist NEXT
@TheShinyShow
@TheShinyShow 3 жыл бұрын
You mean he actually reviews it rather than just giving a specs rundown?
@dragospahontu
@dragospahontu 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheShinyShow Savagegeese is the only real reviewer
@stu4181
@stu4181 3 жыл бұрын
Refreshing that he points out negatives instead of glossing over them like a lot of reviewers do to keep the press arm of said manufacturer happy.
@stevem2323
@stevem2323 3 жыл бұрын
@@stu4181 Only negative is that grill.
@scottjohnson8316
@scottjohnson8316 3 жыл бұрын
From America here.....this guy is great. I like the Brit style of reviewing. Can’t put my finger on it.
@aoamchart
@aoamchart 3 жыл бұрын
Yep, my same thoughts. It's such a heavy and large car now, that it seems more like a M5. It makes you appreciate the outgoing M2C/CS.
@tonywong303
@tonywong303 3 жыл бұрын
Don’t make comments like this this till you drive that M3/M4
@steve0680657
@steve0680657 3 жыл бұрын
@@tonywong303 like you have?
@aoamchart
@aoamchart 3 жыл бұрын
@@tonywong303 I have, and I own a M2 CS. The new M3 is a boat, and if I wanted a big four door boat with power, a Hellcat Charger offers more for less.
@R03333
@R03333 3 жыл бұрын
@@tonywong303 doesn't matter how it drives, it's factually a heavy and large car from the numbers. Disguising it isn't the same as being light.
@tonywong303
@tonywong303 3 жыл бұрын
@@steve0680657 Yes... or why would I make that comment
@keithjackson4985
@keithjackson4985 3 жыл бұрын
One thing I like about your reviews? Your never insulting. You point out the things you disagree with, and still manage to maintain a professional demeanor. Well done!
@2mnyshp
@2mnyshp 3 жыл бұрын
They’ll highlight the “enormous weight loss of 50kg” in the next iteration...
@dagnut
@dagnut 3 жыл бұрын
They've never been light weight but this is lazy engineering. They've just thrown tyre and torque at it.
@2mnyshp
@2mnyshp 3 жыл бұрын
@@dagnut Where I live, It’s mostly a poser car. Sure it’s fast and sporty but there’s a very specific clientele “buying” (leasing) this car...
@dagnut
@dagnut 3 жыл бұрын
@@2mnyshp just different for younger generations, if you are in your early 30s now and earning well you probably came up on fast diesels with lots of gadgets, this is the ultimate expression of that. The price its self is reflective of the lease market, why would bmw bother with a manual and looking after weight when it will still be the car of choice. Harry makes a fair point about the m2 Cs but for me this m3 doesn't have enough to seperate it from an m340i
@R03333
@R03333 3 жыл бұрын
@@dagnut if it were me I'd be straight in a used F80 M3 instead, can't even see the benefits over a £20-30k car from last gen.
@dagnut
@dagnut 3 жыл бұрын
@@R03333 I'd have a quadrifoglio.. Same gear box, same power.. Better sound, lighter and better looking.
@conair62
@conair62 3 жыл бұрын
A face only a mother could love
@therealboofighter
@therealboofighter 3 жыл бұрын
If the mother is blind.
@domvonhutch
@domvonhutch 3 жыл бұрын
it looks a little bit Alfa to me
@tobias_k01
@tobias_k01 3 жыл бұрын
Just get over it, people DO actually like it (and no, not only the Chinese)... BMW 4 series sales have DOUBLED in Northern America with the introduction of the new 4, while peolple were saying that this is never going to sell, and there are lots of preorders on the M3/M4 too. Even the most hated BMW iX is breaking pre-order records for example in Norway, so apart from triggered purists, there are people in this world who either do not care or are open to change. And hey, even me as a classic car enthusiast, I am open to change too. I like it and I think it really suits an M3 perfectly. I like the old cars, but I am definitely not against new things.
@WheelsUpPhotography
@WheelsUpPhotography 3 жыл бұрын
@@tobias_k01 Nope, it’s still a dumpster fire.
@VRSProductionsInc
@VRSProductionsInc 3 жыл бұрын
Looks better in black, my main problem is that it’s not the same as the normal 3 series and the whole point of the M3 is that it’s a sleeper and looks mostly like a normal car
@salvi1398
@salvi1398 3 жыл бұрын
As much as I don’t like the fussy styling and that grille, one positive is that bmw at least kept the straight 6 in the new M3, what with rivals like the new C63 coming as a 4 cylinder hybrid
@augustortiz
@augustortiz 3 жыл бұрын
Yep! 4cyl hybrid and weighs over 4400lbs (2200+kg). I thought this was disappointing but im definitely warming up to it.
@bttawfiq
@bttawfiq 3 жыл бұрын
A 4 cylinder hybrid? The C63? Yukkk!!!
@Westside7be
@Westside7be 3 жыл бұрын
That's why we are extra furious with those bavarian fools. We are in the last days of the straight six performance BMW's. It should have been SPECTACULAR in every way and they've completely ruined it
@dragospahontu
@dragospahontu 3 жыл бұрын
@@bttawfiq the Lexus RCF is the real deal
@AdamAus85
@AdamAus85 3 жыл бұрын
Aye, the one and only positive in this ugly mess.
@humanbeing1675
@humanbeing1675 3 жыл бұрын
Sunday evening and Harry's Garage. Good.
@sagetheowlfatfeathery2083
@sagetheowlfatfeathery2083 3 жыл бұрын
The word you’re searching for is “overstyled”.
@msalzberg4962
@msalzberg4962 3 жыл бұрын
The word is "ugly."
@williamr3840
@williamr3840 3 жыл бұрын
Ugly?
@philallen7626
@philallen7626 3 жыл бұрын
That snout works better on the M3/4 than the vanilla 4 series, it matches the rest of the car's styling rather than being a mad front end on an otherwise bland car. It elevates it from hideous abomination, to ugly but purposeful. The botched rear arches, presumably because they didn't want to make bespoke M3 rear door skins, in excusable.
@msalzberg4962
@msalzberg4962 3 жыл бұрын
@@williamr3840 Ugly. Beavers don't have teeth that big.
@foggyblues13
@foggyblues13 3 жыл бұрын
@@msalzberg4962 lol
@HoratioHoodoo
@HoratioHoodoo 3 жыл бұрын
Henry Catchpole, Harry, Harris. All we need.
@the1beard
@the1beard 3 жыл бұрын
Seriously Annoying that manufacturers make cars bigger and pop them up into the next size range...! It makes no sense imho
@bzdtemp
@bzdtemp 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, almost everyone should take a look at what Mazda is doing.
@russella7263
@russella7263 3 жыл бұрын
It’s because people tend to keep buying the same model of car year after year rather than move up, so the manufacturers effectively move them up and then introduce another smaller/cheaper model at the bottom of the range.
@thebeatclinic9000
@thebeatclinic9000 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I hate how cars are getting bigger and heavier. Taking up more real estate and more resources. It seems counter intuitive (stupid?) when trying to keep CO² emissions down and the planet groans as it registers another birth.
@mkuroglu
@mkuroglu 3 жыл бұрын
it's horrible
@timburton1080
@timburton1080 3 жыл бұрын
But credit too them for creating the M2 sub sized car to fill where the M3 used to be.
@BM_PAZ
@BM_PAZ 3 жыл бұрын
The release of this car has done wonders for Alfa Romeo, it's re-ignited so much interest in the Giulia QV.
@Mexxx65
@Mexxx65 3 жыл бұрын
On point comment Paz!!
@asatrv
@asatrv 3 жыл бұрын
As a German from Munich, driving and loving an old BMW, I support everyone that buys the Giulia QV over this abomination. The pennycounters in HQ need to be shown that they'd better let the engineers decide on what cars they'd like to build, at least for the M-models.
@vavrespaddr7290
@vavrespaddr7290 2 жыл бұрын
to each their own but the giulia's front bonnet is hideous
@raremachines8857
@raremachines8857 3 жыл бұрын
Can we get Harry's Garage to 1 million Subs!!! The finest car reviews on youtube. This is Best review of the G80 M3 Comp thus far.
@nickturner2813
@nickturner2813 3 жыл бұрын
Why? What's your concern about his subscriptions?
@twatmunro9563
@twatmunro9563 3 жыл бұрын
"We" can't, because I'm guessing you're already subscribed. So I presume you mean can YOU add half a million subs? Don't hold your breath.
@bingoberra18
@bingoberra18 3 жыл бұрын
Hope to see a Renault 5 Turbo on the channel some day!
@bertramspielt
@bertramspielt 3 жыл бұрын
I saw one a few days ago in Salzburg, yellow, with a Munich reg.. First thing: it is really a big car. Second: it is ugly. The kidney grill is not the worst, there are too many lines - it looks like a cheap tuning on an expensive car. The sound is really beautiful, not too loud, a good voice indeed. What I don't understand... So many carbon parts to save wight - and then 1.7 tons? Well, electric seats and a motorized bootlid will add a bit, but why is this thing so heavy? BMW should walk into their museum and study, what the meaning of an M3 is.... Thanks for this video - as always, many information. Well done! Greetings from Austria 🇦🇹!
@DiscoFang
@DiscoFang 3 жыл бұрын
Now watch them ditch the electrics and trim and offer Lightweight models for more money.
@GoldenCroc
@GoldenCroc 3 жыл бұрын
Carbon parts isnt to save weight, they are there because people think they look cool. They probably add weight, all told. Its heavy beacuse its a big car.
@DueVolvi
@DueVolvi 3 жыл бұрын
This thing makes me love the E46 M3 even more!
@JayRicci7891
@JayRicci7891 3 жыл бұрын
That front end 🤦🏾‍♂️ come back Chris Bangle, all is forgiven - EDIT: and if you are paying 6k for the carbon pack then youre as mad as a box of frogs
@MismanagedFutures
@MismanagedFutures 3 жыл бұрын
Bangle’s cars were only slightly less hideous so that would not be much of an improvement. They should just bring in any car designer from any car company, or even some random person walking on the street as long their name is not Bangle or Dukec.
@gazfish
@gazfish 3 жыл бұрын
The big UK reg plate does its best to cover those bloated kidneys, it’ll look worse in other countries with the plate to the side.
@Carrera-gp9od
@Carrera-gp9od 3 жыл бұрын
It’s hideous , who signed it off They must be blind
@eugenux
@eugenux 3 жыл бұрын
@@Carrera-gp9od these kind of BMWs are for those who park them on two spots in the parking lots... or on the spots designated for the persons with handicap, their "excuse" being that they don't want other people in lesser cars touching theirs; if this is their level....and BMW knows this very well, do you think a big grill will be detrimental in the eyes of those clients?, I bet it will not..in fact, I bet they will consider it as statement...a projection of their "value", "awesomeness", "insert whatever other superficial characteristic". Even if I would have all the money in the world, I would never buy a BMW. It puzzles me how they managed to attract the posers and the ass.holes even more than Audi does or did until a couple of years ago. In fact, now, Audi are the engineer's/architect's/doctor's/lawyer's/basically educated ppl's car, while BMWs have become the car of choice for those who work in sales or brokerage..not real education, not real quality character, just suit and tie hustlers.
@Carrera-gp9od
@Carrera-gp9od 3 жыл бұрын
@@eugenux I Own a m140i 😂
@beatles4sale2007
@beatles4sale2007 3 жыл бұрын
86K? Get a base 911 for that, I know what I’d prefer to rock around in. Nevertheless great review by Harry, styling has grown on me - BMW daring to be a bit different when a lot of cars seem to be clones of each other.
@StromSports
@StromSports 3 жыл бұрын
With the M3 being a practical four door saloon I don’t think the 911 is really a suitable alternative for most.. However why anyone would buy say an M4 over a 911 is beyond me
@AB-80X
@AB-80X 3 жыл бұрын
Get a used 997.2 GTS and you'd be better off.
@akadanielmaia
@akadanielmaia 3 жыл бұрын
If the competition has the (electric) bucket seats the later special edition must be a full carbon car, right? This is getting bananas
@Kurosaki990Ichigo
@Kurosaki990Ichigo 3 жыл бұрын
"On the flipside it's gained a bit of weight like all of us during lockdown" Me: Looks at my larger them normal belly.. Yep you're spot on about that!
@fitnesspoint2006
@fitnesspoint2006 3 жыл бұрын
Body work reminds of a fussy 80's CRT TV, with the screen framed in a frame in a frame with anther frame around that encased in a big shell. Modern OLEDs have a screen with a minimal-barely- there-bezel.
@AdamAus85
@AdamAus85 3 жыл бұрын
Lol, interesting comparison. I certainly get what you're saying though.
@F1Oversteer
@F1Oversteer 3 жыл бұрын
To me it looks to much like a fussy Hyundai. Even inside its all a bit tasteless. However the tech and engine really get my interest. The Giulia QV has such a lovely light front end, engine and looks to boot. This thing has to be pretty special dynamically to come close.
@hdaviator9181
@hdaviator9181 3 жыл бұрын
It keeps getting bigger and heavier. In a few years, it will be an SUV.
@ShaiyanHossain
@ShaiyanHossain 3 жыл бұрын
the M3 Comp with the AWD is basically a lowered X3 sedan i think BMW is realizing that most people who put money down for shit like this will end up with an X3/4 M anyways
@touayaaj84
@touayaaj84 3 жыл бұрын
Ever heard of the eclipse cross?
@artvandelay505
@artvandelay505 2 жыл бұрын
Harry's Garage and Evo is absolutely Gold 🏆
@higurro
@higurro 3 жыл бұрын
On that grille, the car being a darker colour and having the numberplate across it both help
@sephiros9883
@sephiros9883 3 жыл бұрын
European Number plate helps tremendously. Makes it’s for properly hideous to terrible. But in no-front-plate states.... 🤮🤮🤮
@IwillBwaiting
@IwillBwaiting 3 жыл бұрын
The last generation 3-series dimensions before this model was already on par with a late 80's 750i. To compare it to a 5-series makes sense in more than one way.
@smoggzilla
@smoggzilla 3 жыл бұрын
Starting to get a bit brave with the editing there Harry, cutting away at 65 and the revs still rising......
@Yorkshiremadmick
@Yorkshiremadmick 3 жыл бұрын
Yer beat me to it. Must have been 80 or more when he said yeah it’s a quick car. With a silly grin.
@SuperEarplugs
@SuperEarplugs 3 жыл бұрын
That's when the clutch started slipping
@Yorkshiremadmick
@Yorkshiremadmick 3 жыл бұрын
@@SuperEarplugs Torque Converter Auto 🤪🤪🤪
@DoctorDARKSIDE
@DoctorDARKSIDE 3 жыл бұрын
The sound of the engine is pumped through the speakers which in this instance had a glitch - the engine was idle at the time.
@Yorkshiremadmick
@Yorkshiremadmick 3 жыл бұрын
@@DoctorDARKSIDE Gotta admire computer glitches. Yes offiser I was completely stationary. The speakers were making a right racket
@vindevhunta4905
@vindevhunta4905 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for pointing out that ugly are where the rear door meet the fender rear fender..its more of an issue to me than the grill
@darrylweathers6764
@darrylweathers6764 3 жыл бұрын
I read this week that the next C63 AMG will have a 4 cylinder hybrid instead of a V8 🤦🏾‍♂️ The new M3's grille is controversial, but at least it still has a somewhat characterful engine in it
@gambiting
@gambiting 3 жыл бұрын
It's the M139 from the 45 amgs, it's an absolutely incredible engine, it will be a great fit for that car. And there will still be a V8 C-class, it's just called a C73 AMG.
@darrylweathers6764
@darrylweathers6764 3 жыл бұрын
@@gambiting 4 pots are great engines. Theyve just got no business being in a C63. Havent seen anything about a C73 though, only that the bigger S Class and GT 4 door Coupe will keep the V8 but with hybrid tech 🤷🏾‍♂️
@seabreezeuk4
@seabreezeuk4 3 жыл бұрын
Watchable, level-headed and hype-free review as always. For me, I'd go for an Alpina B3. This new M3 is a bit too much...as good as the its mechanicals are, it's all a bit tasteless.
@fzr1000981
@fzr1000981 2 жыл бұрын
2023 M2
@paulnash4425
@paulnash4425 3 жыл бұрын
I have just bought a new car (second hand) and I can't stop looking at it out the window. If I'd bought one of these, I'd have to keep the curtains closed!
@colinpaton3770
@colinpaton3770 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not keen on the colour either ;)
@saidalas7763
@saidalas7763 3 жыл бұрын
buy an 166. You'll have to be blind
@matthewp9015
@matthewp9015 3 жыл бұрын
@@saidalas7763 The 166 looks gorgeous though?
@alastair8257
@alastair8257 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. The M3 looks massive! Grill is ok for me, but would prefer it smaller so the number plate can sit below it. Still feel Harry would have been the better choice to front Top Gear.
@TheScotsmanTechReview
@TheScotsmanTechReview 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's a nice uhh... colour. Jag still looking beautiful though!
@msalzberg4962
@msalzberg4962 3 жыл бұрын
It helps to have a great designer. In my mind, the three best designers of the last 10 -15 years are Ian Callum at Jaguar, Ed Welburn at GM, and Gerry McGovern at Land Rover. Sadly, Callum and Welburn have retired.
@TheScotsmanTechReview
@TheScotsmanTechReview 3 жыл бұрын
@@msalzberg4962 Could not agree more! There's been a real lack of beautiful cars on our roads in the past 10-15 years.
@sq1rlsqu4d
@sq1rlsqu4d 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheScotsmanTechReview The Jag surely can't be called beautiful? It's a fantastic car and I'd love to own one (in my dreams will have to do), but it looks like a chavved up XE Diesel motorway hack. The shape was dull to start with, the P8 in this colour with the gold wheels and aero addenda looks awful. At least the tacky Jaguar decals aren't present, though. The M3 is a far more imposing and modern-looking thing, to these eyes at least.
@bluetitan20
@bluetitan20 3 жыл бұрын
Great review as always Harry. Plus extra marks for the slick and very precise editing...camera shot cuts away just in time as it hits 60 each time 😉😂
@bengisborne51
@bengisborne51 3 жыл бұрын
Great video and great car. The analogy of it being placed like the m5 used to be is spot on, and I think is a really good positioning as £110k for an m5 comp is too much but although £80k for an m3 comp is high, it is attainable with pcp deals now. Thanks again.
@mrsinn2642
@mrsinn2642 3 жыл бұрын
I was impressed when you closed the door with the door camera on and how little vibration there was.
@ianmcmillan1333
@ianmcmillan1333 3 жыл бұрын
On the subject of weight, I can't help thinking electric boot opening, electric seats etc are all just a setup for the later 'CS' version that has over-hyped weight savings 😋
@mattyb1624
@mattyb1624 3 жыл бұрын
And you will have to pay more for it hahaha
@RipMK747
@RipMK747 3 жыл бұрын
Tbh, I'll still struggle to justify the looks to myself every morning
@jamesterakazis6624
@jamesterakazis6624 3 жыл бұрын
Dude...don't be a BMW APOLOGIST SHEEP !! THIS THING IS FREAKING HIDEOUS !!!
@RipMK747
@RipMK747 3 жыл бұрын
@@jamesterakazis6624 😂😂😂
@nickturner2813
@nickturner2813 3 жыл бұрын
You don't have to "justify the looks", my money says that you're not buying one!
@fifteen8850
@fifteen8850 3 жыл бұрын
It’s grown on me
@knight2386
@knight2386 3 жыл бұрын
Every time I see one, I keep looking trying to figure it out. What I'm missing. Why the designers have done what they've done. Still nothing.
@dwftube
@dwftube 3 жыл бұрын
I'm slowly getting used to the new look. By the time they replace it with something else I might actually like it - like the Chris Bangle designs.
@jackirichard414
@jackirichard414 3 жыл бұрын
Happy Easter! Have a safe blessed day! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
@mbal4052
@mbal4052 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Jacki
@simonh870
@simonh870 3 жыл бұрын
Having had a Bimmer with the dual clutch transmission and having driven one with the ZF 8 speed I would say that I much prefer the ZF8 speed for normal road use.
@paulmac007
@paulmac007 3 жыл бұрын
Nice one H. I have to say I was waiting for your review of the new M Car... because it would be "sensible" and "balanced" and there's no hint of anyone "trying to be Clarkson" 🙄So .... Had my M4 since 19th March and I absolutely love it. Coming from the F80 series M4, I was slightly concerned it wouldn't do it for me like my 2017 version did for the last 4 years, however, 5 minutes into owning it, and comparing side by side, it does indeed make the F80 series look old hat . So from being one of those KZbinrs who initially moaned about "what have they done" I tip my hat to the designers and devs at BMW M in creating such a complete car, designed to do what it should do with lot's more included. You don't feel like you're driving a supercar" until you reach the areas around 5000rpm with sport shift settings, so you can tootle around comfortably and look reasonable inconspicuous when pulling into a client's car park I guess. Saying that, a few people enjoy taking photo's but I think it's simply due to a new model release.Thanks for the vid - be interesting to see what your thoughts are on the new M4 too. Drive safe.
@brandodurham
@brandodurham 3 жыл бұрын
Best looking Bmw ever made by a mile, and best seats ever fitted to a road car
@project182r3
@project182r3 2 жыл бұрын
It’s absolutely fucking hideous
@DarkmanXXL
@DarkmanXXL 3 жыл бұрын
This is why I subscribe. While other KZbinrs are raving about these “fantastic” seats, Harry is the first person I’ve seen who gives a no nonsense, well supported opinion about the lack of practicality with these seats. Oh well...guess BMW is doing it for the love of money🤷🏾‍♂️
@nickturner2813
@nickturner2813 3 жыл бұрын
" _Harry is the first person I’ve seen who gives a no nonsense, well supported opinion about the lack of practicality with these seats_ ". Ironically, he _doesn't_ say that they lack practicality!
@DarkmanXXL
@DarkmanXXL 3 жыл бұрын
@@nickturner2813 ...he mentioned that while comfortable, that the seat is cumbersome to get into, not to mention that it’s electric, which takes away from its practically for lighter weight and a more “sport” ethos. I stand behind what I posted.
@joegatrill6634
@joegatrill6634 3 жыл бұрын
The crease where the rear door meets the wheel arch is a dogs dinner, what were they thinking?!
@miikatj
@miikatj 3 жыл бұрын
Probably draw the M4 and then went "oh shit, the M3 needs rear doors, let's just slap the non-M doors on".
@mattyb1624
@mattyb1624 3 жыл бұрын
Cost cutting so they don't have to produce a different door from standard sedan. It's on the previous M3 too.
@tullebanditt
@tullebanditt 3 жыл бұрын
@@mattyb1624 you dont want to pay 80k for a car with cost cutting
@mattyb1624
@mattyb1624 3 жыл бұрын
@@tullebanditt no you don't. I am/was a big BMW enthusiast still owning a few, but if they continue in this direction, I'll be moving away from the brand. (Keep the old ones)
@TheMattprune
@TheMattprune 3 жыл бұрын
Best review I've watched of this model. Almost looks appealing as a future purchase. Nice work Harry!
@bzdtemp
@bzdtemp 3 жыл бұрын
Just when one thinks that BMW design can not get worse they do something like this. It is like they want owners to be excusing their looks as part of the price of ownership.
@chop3625
@chop3625 3 жыл бұрын
It’s called arrogance. BMW does not care about their base, appealing to the masses is all that matters 💰💰💰
@jonathannavarro6679
@jonathannavarro6679 3 жыл бұрын
@@chop3625 To the masses? You think masses of people can purchase an M3? The majority don't approve of the change further confusing me when it comes to your "appeal to the masses" comment. I'm not sure it means what you think it means. They are appealing to (in their minds) the people that can actually afford the car, they don't car what the masses think as most people cannot afford the vehicle and therefore their opinion doesn't actually matter to BMW.
@I999-g2s
@I999-g2s 3 жыл бұрын
Last but not least. In fact, this is my favourite review of the new M3 so far. The comparison with the styling of the P8 was very telling.
@JoeAchilles1
@JoeAchilles1 3 жыл бұрын
Another brilliant review Harry, agree with everything 👌 Looking forward to mine arriving in a few weeks...
@harrysgarage
@harrysgarage 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent news, thanks. Did you go M3 or M4?
@mcspikesky
@mcspikesky 3 жыл бұрын
People will drive past you looking disgusted.
@sergiofacchinetti2954
@sergiofacchinetti2954 3 жыл бұрын
@@harrysgarage m3 he choose
@kiddo8597
@kiddo8597 3 жыл бұрын
@@mcspikesky it doesn't look that ugly i think
@JoeAchilles1
@JoeAchilles1 3 жыл бұрын
@@harrysgarage M3 buddy, always preferred the 4 door, more practical and slightly cheaper 👌
@Xyzabc998
@Xyzabc998 3 жыл бұрын
Love the grill and the other details. The grill is like Bangle's time. People disliked Bangle's designs but sales went up. They also need extra cooling for a twin turbo of that heft, so it is a functional solution too.
@DavidPark52
@DavidPark52 3 жыл бұрын
650Nm, Harry please could you do a video to illustrate how performance has developed over time? How the 911’s have got faster/heavier or this M3 against Countach and McLaren F1? Thank you.
@nanaprt61
@nanaprt61 3 жыл бұрын
I love this channel. Harry has this sort of genteel, no-nonsense but detailed, easy-going way of reviewing cars that sort of cuts through all the decorum, fancy editing, and straight bull shit you see on other channels. Wish I had found this channel earlier.
@kelvinlearnsinvesting9693
@kelvinlearnsinvesting9693 3 жыл бұрын
Tele gram@Kenanthonycarter26
@timc5969
@timc5969 3 жыл бұрын
The G80 is three inches longer than an E34 M5 (4794mm/4720mm), seven inches wider (1903mm/1720mm) and 1.6 inches taller (1433mm/1392mm). It weighs almost exactly the same as an E34 M5 (within 15kg). I remember driving an E34 twenty five years ago or so and thinking it was pretty big car at the time.
@leonbaum7453
@leonbaum7453 3 жыл бұрын
The gentleman of the road. Love the videos Harry.
@CarToneHK
@CarToneHK 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, M3 is the new M5, M5 is now M7 and M2 took the M3's place And I'm pretty sure BMW didn't save much weight with this gen, so the CS and other special models would have more room for weightloss
@colinpaton3770
@colinpaton3770 3 жыл бұрын
For sure there will be a CSL version in a year or 2.
@Fiwek23452
@Fiwek23452 3 жыл бұрын
M7 doesn't exist lol what are u talkin about?
@jan-hendrikbussmann4644
@jan-hendrikbussmann4644 3 жыл бұрын
@8:55: Tesla cars also show up with correct paint and even wheels on the screen. Didn't pay too much attention recently to them, but the early ones even showed the status of the headlights, indicators and so on correctly.
@jstdrv
@jstdrv 3 жыл бұрын
BMWs getting more and more hideous. Harry's garage on the other hand is just getting better and better. Love from Norway x
@benblakemore4195
@benblakemore4195 3 жыл бұрын
Harry it looks like a car that will just feel better and better the longer you play with it. Another great video bud
@AleksandrHalas
@AleksandrHalas 3 жыл бұрын
Happy Easter!!!!
@stevewilson8467
@stevewilson8467 3 жыл бұрын
Have BMW never heard of Edsel..? Another highly enjoyable review though, thanks Harry.
@ichheissedamian
@ichheissedamian 3 жыл бұрын
as the size of the new m3 is nearly identical in size to the e39 m5 and the m2 is around the size of the e46 m3 coupe i can see what you mean
@harryspeakup8452
@harryspeakup8452 3 жыл бұрын
The new M3 is also heavier than the E39 M5
@ichheissedamian
@ichheissedamian 3 жыл бұрын
@@harryspeakup8452 yes but only by about 30kg, i would neglect that tbh
@marcosvalcarcel552
@marcosvalcarcel552 3 жыл бұрын
That green paintwork looks stunning!
@ericpisch2732
@ericpisch2732 3 жыл бұрын
The weight and price of this car is mind blowing, and my gawd it’s ugly...
@sq1rlsqu4d
@sq1rlsqu4d 3 жыл бұрын
🤷🏻‍♂️ I think it looks brilliant :) Each to their own, though :)
@stevem2323
@stevem2323 3 жыл бұрын
Weight? So? Did you see how it goes on track and roades? Well it's brilliant.
@rs4rs669
@rs4rs669 3 жыл бұрын
Ugly car , Nasty grill ruins it
@stevem2323
@stevem2323 3 жыл бұрын
@@rs4rs669 Ok Audi fanboy. Sure, grill is bad, but the rest of the car is perfect so piss of with that BS.
@rs4rs669
@rs4rs669 3 жыл бұрын
Steve M keep your bugs bunny clown car , ill keep my c7 rs6 monster lol , prik
@autofanaticcars
@autofanaticcars 3 жыл бұрын
Looks way better with the UK front plates due to the scale in NYC they look awful with our plates.
@DougC83
@DougC83 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve noticed Panerai on the left and Apple Watch on the right🤔
@SornGeorge
@SornGeorge 3 жыл бұрын
Harry, always a joy watching your videos. Did you have to get approval from BMW before you publish this video? Has it ever been the case that a manufacturer did ask you to review the video/review before you upload?
@harrysgarage
@harrysgarage 3 жыл бұрын
Never happened with any manufacturer in the 26 years I've being doing car reviews
@SornGeorge
@SornGeorge 3 жыл бұрын
@@harrysgarage thank you for replying Harry - much appreciated.
@ChocolateFrog
@ChocolateFrog 3 жыл бұрын
I get the impression it's pretty soft all round for an M product. Seems more like a very expensive 340i+. Leaves headroom for another hardcore version I guess.
@djdB
@djdB 3 жыл бұрын
No longer an M3 and no longer desirable to its former fanbase. The first and last video of this monstrosity that I care to subject myself to, excellent review Harry.
@KC-bv9kf
@KC-bv9kf 3 жыл бұрын
Harry’s multitasking with 2 watches 🙂
@UltimateAccuracy
@UltimateAccuracy 3 жыл бұрын
Panerai on the left and Apple on the right. Apple cos Harry's "down with the youffs", Mechanical/Automatic on the left because there's beauty in self contained watches (except modern Rolexs which mark you out as a Brand Submissive)
@visionist7
@visionist7 3 жыл бұрын
I noticed that too
@mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm420
@mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm420 3 жыл бұрын
My late father wore two watches when his dementia progressed.
@darkstar7742
@darkstar7742 3 жыл бұрын
2 Watches for each M setting
@frankcolumbo9615
@frankcolumbo9615 3 жыл бұрын
I got a boss with Apple 🍎 on each wrist 🤦‍♂️ I wear nothing on both. 👍
@timbre7999
@timbre7999 3 жыл бұрын
Best M3 review I've seen, excellent! Agree with Harry as to the seats (hopping over de sides) and the nose (quite distinctive looking in a good way) and I would love to see the Touring!
@Peter-li1un
@Peter-li1un 3 жыл бұрын
It’s like they saw the Type R styling and said “oh yes, we’ll have a bit of that!”
@jamesneedham6265
@jamesneedham6265 3 жыл бұрын
At least with the Type R you get the impression its meant to be silly, this just looks so over designed that one day you could wake up and find two bmw designer fighting over it as they restyle it on your drive.
@alanwayte432
@alanwayte432 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely ridiculous, in the flesh it looks very good not like a toy car
@ToreHansen
@ToreHansen 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, only thing I will never stop complaining, is that the rear lights on the Project should have been a bit more dark from the factory.
@simonscott3440
@simonscott3440 3 жыл бұрын
The only opinion that really counts on KZbin......thanks Harry
@netweed09
@netweed09 3 жыл бұрын
👍 Actually, me always hating the previous M's being all hideous, lizard-like and outdated: this is actually a very bad thing. I now really want an M-car. And that spells massive trouble for my Bank. So, maybe it _is_ a very baaad car lol!
@reinmansmith
@reinmansmith 3 жыл бұрын
The more of Harry’s videos I watch the more I think that Harry’s P7 & P8 are the match of all these cars and actually are the only two cars you need in your garage….. remembering of course that ‘need’ and ‘want’ are two different things 😆…. Keep the videos coming Harry!
@JeanAlesi90
@JeanAlesi90 3 жыл бұрын
Such an in depth review as always Harry. In a world full of ‘influencer’ twats , who only have the ability to talk about what spec and if they have ordered it... your videos are a reminder why I loved car magazines so much. So much knowledge and proper enthusiasm. Cheers.
@FluxJD
@FluxJD 3 жыл бұрын
Great stuff. My only point is the the rear 'arm rest' is actually just a through load for the boot.
@mpetry912
@mpetry912 3 жыл бұрын
always a great review, thank you Harry. They've gone a bit too far.
@bobgees793
@bobgees793 3 жыл бұрын
Price point had gone crazy with these. As has the weight and looks. Interesting to see how many they sell compared to previous gens...
@akadanielmaia
@akadanielmaia 3 жыл бұрын
BMW has a chance with this car now that the C63 is a 4 cylinder. I remember when AMG had no market so they went big V8, they may be betting too much on that 4 cylinder. 718 style sales disaster coming!?
@soubido
@soubido 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think the "standard" M3/4, even the Competition version, are meant to be lightweight. I'm sure they'll release some form of a CS or track-focused version later on.
@bri1042
@bri1042 3 жыл бұрын
Continue to be shocked at how much more expensive this car is in the UK vs. the US now. The gap has gotten really wide.
@kakarlsen
@kakarlsen 3 жыл бұрын
*cries in Norwegian * (base price M3 comp: 100,279 GBP/138,691 USD)
@noelodwyer
@noelodwyer 3 жыл бұрын
Try buying one in Ireland... $143K that's £103K. The Irish government hates the Irish motorist.
@visionist7
@visionist7 3 жыл бұрын
I bet it's at least 85k Euros in Italy ...for the non Competition
@bloke755
@bloke755 3 жыл бұрын
@@noelodwyer And we're part of the EU , free moment of goods and all that !! ( said this, a number of years ago , to a customs officer , just before a Garda advised me to remove myself form my Celica GT4A , or face arrest !! ) .
@noelodwyer
@noelodwyer 3 жыл бұрын
@@bloke755 infuriating!
@Racedoc
@Racedoc 2 жыл бұрын
I’m waiting on the face lift hoping they might tweak the front and the hood a little otherwise I’m going back to Audi RS5 after 3 M cars. I couldn’t agree more about the busy front it is the same impression I got when I saw one at the dealer.
@Racedoc
@Racedoc Жыл бұрын
Ended up getting a very good deal on a 2023 m4 xdrive competition pkg. my first disappointment was the exhaust it was very muted until I swapped the middle section with Dinan x pipe. The automatic 8 gear transmission is another disappointment compared to the DCT. The DCT is no doubt a superior transmission with lighting fast change of gears.
@axelvoller9935
@axelvoller9935 3 жыл бұрын
Can’t they just call the M4 the M3 coupé? Like going back to the E36 M3 or the E92 M3 where you had the option of a coupe or saloon
@victorkuria8068
@victorkuria8068 3 жыл бұрын
Great review Harry....well balanced and thoughtful comments as always...had an issue with that rear door wheel arch area too..it almost seems like the developers were given a very strict timeline to finish the design and didn’t have time to smoothen that out or the budget allocation for the car was burgeoning and a stop was called before they could get to it!!!😅
@alexbrown1995
@alexbrown1995 3 жыл бұрын
I agree, Victor. Not a highlight of the car's styling....
@nrahim91
@nrahim91 3 жыл бұрын
It's certainly not a bad car but I think my money would be better spent on a used M340i touring at under £40k. Most of the performance, with more comfort, practicality and lower running costs.
@ylgukcuf1618
@ylgukcuf1618 Жыл бұрын
Different cars.
@Usman-zp6ig
@Usman-zp6ig Жыл бұрын
I beg to disagree I've driven both and thr m3 is a different animal. 340i defo more affordable yes but when you push it its not a patch on the m3
@ylgukcuf1618
@ylgukcuf1618 Жыл бұрын
@Usman-zp6ig the 340i is a quick car. The M3 when you drive it, especially in the Sports plus mode is not even comparable
@markwood7045
@markwood7045 3 жыл бұрын
Whenever a new car is released, I always have a peek to see if Harry has got hold of it yet - that's where I'm going to get the contextual review rather than the over excited crazy one , or the 'walkaround' with no car content.
@jamsbong
@jamsbong 3 жыл бұрын
The ZF 8HP is an amazing gearbox. Plus, the gearbox is super reliable and very low maintenance. You only need to change the fluids after 100000 KM. Compared to 50000 KM for DSG gearbox.
@ryanforeman3650
@ryanforeman3650 3 жыл бұрын
Cracking video again Harry! The grill has grown on me, I saw one in the exact colour as this on the road didn't look as bad as the photos
@Lemuren77
@Lemuren77 3 жыл бұрын
I think the licence plate location actually help the styling case, but I guess when you see it in the flesh, it's much better than a picture. Great review as always. //Magnus Sweden.
@Tom_Hadler
@Tom_Hadler 3 жыл бұрын
Was just thinking that. Covers the massive nostrils.
@h2oaddict
@h2oaddict 3 жыл бұрын
Looks bad in person.
@carsfightsfood1271
@carsfightsfood1271 Жыл бұрын
Great review as always Harry. Fully agree about the downshifts. I currently drive an M3 Comp XDrive and the downshifts in my M340i were more aggressive and crisper, believe it or not. How can that be!?
@gambiting
@gambiting 3 жыл бұрын
The car appearing in your colour on the dash was already available on my 2016 Merc AMG, but tbf I haven't seen Harry testing any of those.
@daveemsley6982
@daveemsley6982 3 жыл бұрын
I've been watching this channel for 2 or 3 years, can't recall him reviewing any mercedes and they make some great cars. Depreciation a bit much though.
@nickturner2813
@nickturner2813 3 жыл бұрын
Perhaps Merc doesn't fancy subjecting it's cars to a Harry's Garage review. He tests what is made available to him.
@davidmacdonald3500
@davidmacdonald3500 3 жыл бұрын
And Tesla since 2013. Great vid though, as usual.
@4pevans
@4pevans 3 жыл бұрын
Well, it's hard to dislike the straight 6 and I kind of like the color but thats it for me
@Muzzaa
@Muzzaa 3 жыл бұрын
I quite like how it looks
@edwardleigh-firbank7835
@edwardleigh-firbank7835 3 жыл бұрын
Didn't need to hear about whether you liked it as I could see that smile on ure face as you drove it.That says it all.
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