Harvard Professor: They’re Lying To You About Running, Breathing & Sitting! - Daniel Lieberman

If you enjoyed this episode, I recommend you check out my first conversation with Dr. Daniel Lieberman, which you can find here: • Harvard Professor: REV...
00:00 Intro
02:15 What do you do, and why do you do it?
03:24 Are we actually a good species?
05:26 Do our ancestors hold the answer to all our health needs?
07:47 Have we evolved to eat meat?
10:48 How did we learn to hunt and gather?
17:18 Have we evolved to breathe wrong?
19:43 Why do we sweat?
24:38 When did our brains get so big?
30:10 Why do we struggle to diet?
38:46 Modern-day mismatched diseases
42:56 Why did you write a book about food?
45:17 Has our culture moved too fast?
46:30 We've decided to live with diseases rather than prevent them.
50:28 The modern foods we eat have affected the way we look.
53:17 Is cancer a consequence of our modern society?
58:49 How our bodies store energy
01:05:38 The keto diet and fasting
01:09:59 Are we too comfortable as a society?
01:15:14 Puberty has changed, and we’re going into it earlier than ever before.
01:16:52 The dangers of sitting down all day like we do.
01:20:23 What should people take away most from this conversation?
01:24:31 The products we put on our bodies, are they toxic?
01:30:21 The last guest's question
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[@TheDiaryOfACEO]

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[@thisistotallyfine]

YASSS he's back!!

[@jzilla1234]

I've noticed a huge amount of pseudo science on this channel and frankly it's put me off. "Obesity is causing autism" "Exercise wont help you lose weight" Whats next, onion on foot?

[@stevenfulcher2569]

How do you know? I don't think you are equipped to assess his level of knowledge on the topic unless you're well versed? Do your researchers scrutinise your guests claims before their appearances?

[@mihaelaburda8166]

I totally and completely appreciate Daniel - and I loved your interviews totally!

[@LyamEnea]

@@jzilla1234 agreed 👍

[@sarahling8364]

One thing I have learnt from listening to all your podcasts, is that EVERYTHING IS GOING TO KILL ME! Caffine, breathing, sitting, anxiety, depression, meat, dairy, processed food, oats, protein, medications, technology, social media, childhood trauma, retireing, poverty, sugar, harsh chemicals!

[@yukisnoww]

Not wrong, omegalul **guess i will die**

[@kalonecho]

pretty much

[@thisistotallyfine]

Yes even inactively sitting watching these podcasts is gonna decrease your lifespan

[@thisistotallyfine]

Meat and protein is good for you bro

[@paulomoteso]

😂very true!

[@kumarns5485]

As soon as you stop watching these podcasts the world start to look better again 😅

[@nyne2022]

It really doesn't. Half of people are obese.

[@tyrellwreleck4226]

Only this one specifically. He is not that consistent when he answers questions. When he was asked if fasting is good for the health, he actually dodged the question and saying he does not have any data to prove. If you watch other podcast from medical doctors and fitness coaches, they will say fasting has a lot benefits and they have data to support their claims. This guy is a harvard professor not a medical expert.

[@courtneymiszczak6413]

I’ve recently gotten off social media, decluttered my studio apartment that was a victim of overconsumption, cut a credit card that was my accomplice of overconsumption, and did a three day fast for mental clarity. My realization is that LESS is MORE. I have more energy when I have SPACE to move and I’m on my phone LESS! I’m going to keep pushing on, even when life seems “boring” (peaceful)

[@hans-jorgeygerd9044]

"3 Day fast"? Fasting beginns with 8 days. 14 days is standard. Try again.

[@attica7980]

Credit cards are a good thing. If you can't deal with having one, the problem is with your self-discipline, and not with the credit card.

[@RwP223]

Find your way back to nature, we are made of dust and dust we shall return. Seriously, a lot of new information coming out, just simply walking barefoot on the earth is part of being healthy. Being in the sun, not wearing sunglasses, not wearing sunscreen is part of being healthy. If you burn in the sun, then wear natural materials to shade your skin...as there is no effective and safe sunscreen available, sure you can glob on zinc paste then you look like a fool because wearing clothing is doing the same thing as zinc body mask.

[@TheEicb]

No mentions of the va---nes? Forbidden?

[@umestudies5337]

​@@hans-jorgeygerd9044 Fasting till we die🍾🍾

[@garthly]

As a retired academic from a family with generations of intellectuals, I have noticed that very clever people are often wrong in their conclusions. On the other hand, ordinary people, informed by tradition, experience, and muddled thinking often get things more or less right. It’s worth bearing in mind when listening to very knowledgable experts.

[@Brajgamer]

Great observation. And all these years (40 is my age) I kept wondering how my almost uneducated (formally) father got almost everything right even if at the surface he looked quite mistaken in our "educated" analysis.

[@stopper90004]

The official, "scientific" response to the rona is a perfect example. Anyone with common sense knew it made more sense to protect your 85 year old, diabetic granny from everyone else by isolating her than locking up the 90% of the population who were clearly barely dying in the first few weeks in Italy and Spain. Academics are given far too much weight - especially medical, statistical and economic experts - in the policies that end up perverting organic, Darwinian, market-driven and common sense solutions.

[@michaelzollner1120]

Hmmmm. Rather narcissistic opening there friend. Don't think that your hypothesis would work very well in the realm of engineering, e.g. building bridges. Nor in open heart surgery or in innumerable other fields. There is a reason to trust those who have dedicated their dedication, time, learning and experience in becoming said experts. Simply put, they know stuff.

[@brianque9892]

@@michaelzollner1120 I wouldnt say narcassistic at all, especially as Garthy identifies himself as intellectual. There have been several philosophers and intellectuals who have highlighted the idea that the wisdom acquired through time itself is often lost to sudden newage intellectual theories. You mention engineers, planes can fly and bridges not collapse because of basic Newtonian laws. No one questions their value as the proof is in the pudding in that case. There have been many intellectual theories of the 20th century that were far wide of the mark aslo, just look at what experts used to say about smoking 60 years ago and about diet even very recently. The average persons diet in the west is less healthy today than it ever has been. The averge persons stress is higher than it ever has been. Surely if intellectuals had appropriate solutions for those issues we would be seeing the results?

[@philostreet781]

You hit the nail at its head! Time-tested tradition that can be verified with personal experience is most likely to work fine. Experts by definition are narrowly focused on tiny field of their study. Therefore, one expert’s conclusion will most certainly contradict another expert in social science. Whoever heeds expert opinions must use their personal experience to test whether it will work for themselves!

[@dameanvil]

00:00 🌐 Evolutionary Mismatch Diseases: Chronic stress, obesity, heart disease, and many cancers are considered mismatch diseases caused by our comfortable, sedentary lives in a world of abundant choices. 01:25 🏃‍♂ Actionable Steps for Health: Combatting mismatch diseases involves being physically active, avoiding prolonged sitting, and embracing activities that challenge our bodies, fostering better endurance and overall health. 02:49 🤔 Understanding Human Evolution: Dr. Daniel Lieberman, a Harvard Professor of Human Evolutionary Biology, explores how studying human evolution helps unravel the origins of health issues and offers solutions. 03:48 🍽 Evolutionary Diet: Humans are ultimate omnivores, evolved to eat a wide range of foods. While hunter-gatherer lifestyles offer insights, a simplistic return to a paleo diet is termed a "Paleo fantasy," as evolution is not a one-size-fits-all guide to modern health. 07:20 🏹 Hunter-Gatherer Transformation: The shift to hunting and gathering around 2 million years ago marked a crucial phase in human evolution, influencing our bodies, diet, and cooperation as a species. 15:13 👃 Evolution of the Human Nose: The external nose, evolving around 2 million years ago, is considered a humidifier, improving air contact with nasal mucous membranes, crucial for moisture retention during breathing. 17:42 💤 Modern Breathing Challenges: Discussion on modern breathing issues, such as mouth breathing, sleep problems, and potential solutions, highlighting the importance of understanding our evolutionary adaptations for better health. 18:09 🏃‍♂ Nasal breathing during running is not supported by evolutionary evidence; humans evolved to breathe through their mouth while running to dissipate heat efficiently. 20:01 🦎 Human sweating, a unique adaptation, allows effective heat dissipation during physical activity in hot environments, providing an advantage during hunting in the heat of the day. 23:20 🧠 The increase in brain size in humans is linked to the transition to hunting and gathering, providing more energy for brain development through improved food processing and cooperation. 27:27 🍼 Infant body fat is crucial for providing constant energy to support the high metabolic demands of a growing brain, and fat storage is connected to brain development and reproduction. 32:52 🤯 Stress-induced cortisol elevation can lead to visceral fat accumulation, causing inflammation and contributing to various diseases; stress is a risk factor for health issues. 34:29 🩸 Low body fat in women due to dieting or intense physical activity can disrupt hormonal balance, affecting menstrual cycles and fertility; energy availability plays a crucial role in reproductive health. 36:18 🏋 Physical activity significantly reduces breast cancer risk in women; sedentary lifestyle linked to abnormal hormone levels. 37:13 🤰 Body's sensitivity to energy influences reproductive decisions; low energy levels signal a suboptimal time for pregnancy. 38:09 ⚖ Chronic stress, cortisol, and mismatched environments contribute to various modern diseases; stress management crucial for health. 39:18 💔 Mismatch diseases, such as heart disease, diabetes, and cancers, stem from inadequate adaptation to modern lifestyles. 41:25 🌎 Most people in the Western world likely to die from mismatch diseases; heart disease and cancer top the list. 42:20 🥗 Diet and exercise can prevent or alleviate many mismatch diseases like heart disease; lifestyle choices play a crucial role. 43:00 📚 Writing a book on diet from an evolutionary perspective; aims to help people make healthier and more informed dietary choices. 46:18 🔄 Cultural evolution outpaces biological evolution; rapid environmental changes lead to mismatches between biology and modern lifestyles. 52:08 💊 Overreliance on treating symptoms rather than preventing causes in modern medicine; the need for a shift towards preventive healthcare. 53:18 🦠 Cancer is not solely a mismatch disease; linked to energy levels, physical inactivity, and exposure to carcinogens in modern environments. 55:08 🍽 High energy levels, influenced by diet and physical activity, correlate with increased breast cancer rates. 56:31 🌍 Cancer rates among Hunter-gatherers are believed to be much lower, possibly due to fewer menstrual cycles and higher energy demands. 57:25 🚼 The number of menstrual cycles influences breast cancer risk; more cycles, higher risk. 58:30 🤰 Hunter-gatherer women, often pregnant or nursing, experience fewer menstrual cycles, potentially reducing cancer risk. 59:12 🏃‍♂ Rapid weight loss from diets like keto is often due to water loss, not fat loss. 01:00:47 💡 Fat is essential for life, storing significant energy. Insulin helps store fat in adipocytes; hormones regulate fat retrieval. 01:05:34 ⚖ Chronic inflammation from overpacked fat cells can lead to various health issues. 01:06:02 🔄 Fasting and exercise share common gene activation in response to negative energy balance. 01:08:30 🍔 Keto diets, by relying on ketone bodies instead of glucose, may have short-term weight loss effects but are less proven for long-term success. 01:10:22 🛋 Excessive comfort, particularly in childhood, may contribute to physical weakness, impacting skeletal health and overall fitness. 01:11:45 💪 Inadequate exercise during youth contributes to lower peak bone mass, increasing the risk of osteoporosis later in life. 01:13:09 🦴 Loading bones through activities like playing tennis can lead to asymmetry, where the arm used to hit the ball has significantly thicker bones. 01:14:18 🦷 Chewing hard food, like resinous gum, may positively impact jaw growth and reduce issues like malocclusion. 01:15:28 🌍 Puberty age has changed due to energy availability; more energy leads to earlier puberty. Historical data shows this shift in various populations. 01:17:17 🪑 Prolonged sitting can be an issue, especially if combined with sedentary leisure time. Regular breaks and not sitting excessively outside of work are recommended. 01:19:21 💪 Back strength, particularly endurance, is crucial for preventing back pain. Weak backs with low endurance are prone to fatigue and spasms. 01:21:12 🔄 Modern living is filled with mismatched elements. Being aware of these mismatches helps make better decisions regarding diet, physical activity, and lifestyle. 01:23:15 🚑 Treating symptoms of mismatch diseases without addressing the underlying causes contributes to a vicious cycle, worsening the overall situation. 01:27:23 🤒 Overly sanitized environments can lead to weakened immune systems and an increased risk of allergies and autoimmune diseases. The hygiene hypothesis suggests that exposure to normal pathogens is essential for a robust immune system. 01:29:28 🏃‍♀ TV presenter Deina McCo was inspired to run after listening to the podcast with Dr. Daniel Lieberman, emphasizing the impact of conversations on lifestyle. 01:30:12 📚 "The Story of the Human Body" by Dr. Daniel Lieberman is considered essential reading and is used in schools and educational institutions. 01:30:25 ❓ A closing tradition involves the last guest leaving a question for the next guest. The question for Dr. Daniel Lieberman is, "For what would you be willing to die today?" 01:31:13 💔 Dr. Lieberman expresses that he might be willing to risk his life for the people he loves and cares about, and potentially for the greater benefit of humankind. 01:31:57 🤔 Reflecting on the question, Dr. Lieberman discusses his initial response about what he would die for, including family and the complexity of the idea of sacrificing one's life for a cause.

[@christineantonites2398]

🙏🏻

[@jamesbarnes5400]

Goat!🐐

[@sekee]

Thank you sir

[@user-ig9rw3ep3i]

Was looking for this comment!

[@SuruLereinLasGidi]

God bless you. This is so helpful.

[@user-lq1lh7kk4h]

Why no-one talks about the fact that these days in Western countries people do not only eat ultra processed foods which have no nutrients, but they also eat for many other reasons than for being hungry. Most of the people I know - who are over weight - eat at meal times, but also when they are bored, happy, unhappy, sad, to celebrate something or to "release stress". Those of my friends who eat few warm meals a day and few snacks only if they really are hungry, are all normal weight. Also I have lived on the country side in Tanzania, East Africa, with a local family and there people only ate a light breakfast, two warm meals and rarely snacks which if eaten, were small amount of fruits or peanuts or cashew nuts. NO-ONE was overweight. So in the West people these days are using food to almost everything else than to treat their REAL hunger!!

[@yl1487]

Yes. And eating also with unusual timing in relation to the light-dark and seasonal rhythms ...

[@OezgeSebisteri]

Brilliant observation

[@imageword5576]

ultra processed food should really be categorized as a drug, in the sense that it activates the dopaminergic pathways on the same level of cocaine. The difference is that this drug is not only socially acceptable, it's encouraged. No wonder people are struggling with it, when they aren't even aware of it being a drug.

[@milosmilosevic9810]

Victims of capitalistic consumeristic system driven by greed for profit .

[@gabrielmicu4085]

Food adictions, sugar, eating ofter are the main reason for obesity. Prople eat from adiction and teste, not when there hungry, you right, if there eating when only hungry no one will be obese, in fact I belive if everyone is in the right tune with his body and leasten what the body said, no one will be obese.

[@micheleogle6036]

I love that he let's his guests speak! He asks great questions and leads the discussion... I hope that doesn't change.

[@OZ88]

my grandfather died at 102 with half century diabetes my father at 70, the one lived through WW1 WW2 (as soldier) smoked and drunk everyday and my father died from stress to attain material things while my grandfather had a very different attitude towards life quiet and optimistic and close to nature.

[@colleenshea2293]

Thing thing is --- the poisions in food, alcohol, cigs and in the environment are more deadly !

[@marcozegikniet9301]

Slave wages will give you alot of stress

[@viadharmawheel]

@@colleenshea2293 Yes, one could argue the stress is the number one killer...

[@waitaminute2015]

Maybe your grandfather was good at regulating his stress even though he used smoking and drinking. He may have also been more stubborn, or more resilient to life's troubles. It could also just be luck?

[@bassc]

Your grandfather’s lifestyle could have worsened his offspring but not himself.

[@katerinasamuseva7767]

I just LOVE listening to this man. Thank you for this interview and such great guests on this podcast❤

[@thestandoutpodcast]

This episode is for sure one of my favorite one ever. As we all know, health is wealth. We live in an age of excess and our lifestyles have led to health crises. Making meaningful changes and balances can help us improve our wellbeing in the long run. Thank you for bringing this to us.

[@stab74]

Welp, since AI is going to kill us all in 5 years or so, I figure I'll just keep drinking and smoking. I do like my green smoothies though! 🤣

[@rossmurray6849]

Thank you Daniel, and Steven, for a thoroughly enjoyable podcast. I was struck not just by Daniel's knowledge and his ability to explain things in ways a layman can follow, but by his humility, a quality quite rare among talking heads on KZbin. He was at ease in saying he didn't know the answers of questions, and when his remarks were merely a hypothesis. And I had a good laugh too when he admitted to also being someone who decontaminated himself after a gym session.

[@paulasiefer]

I love to listen to y’all . I really learn a lot from it, so much knowledge . Thank you for your time to sit and explained with questions and answers. Thank you🙏

[@sunshinelove19]

Just want to say thank you to your team and all the work you put in 💙💙💙❤️❤️❤️ for really interesting guests and mind-provoking discussions. Thank you 😊

[@madrenola]

I agree! Awesome, informative content!

[@dux666guitarmaster]

He’s spot on about sitting for work then also for leisure time being just about the worst thing you can do. You can end up with nerve issues from constant pressure from the surrounding tissues, weak/tight muscles, etc. even when you’re young. If you have a long-hours office job you’ve absolutely got to be active the rest of the time.

[@Patrick-jj5nh]

let's remember for many - this is not a choice, often your job leaves you absolutely drained and sitting is about all you can hope for at the end of the day - doesn't mean you cannot combine some movement with the day, ie purposefully walking to job for a few stops, walking home, doing more on weekends and integrating movement in any time you have at home outside of sleep or rest

[@dudewhathappenedtomycountr9099]

@@Patrick-jj5nh They can create a standing workstation and alternate between sitting and standing throughout the workday. Also important to take short walking breaks.

[@msmith3395]

Unfortunately my long-hours office job happens during daylight hours and during my "leisure time" it's dark and cold (winter at least). This scenario does not help the equation.

[@pritapp788]

@@dudewhathappenedtomycountr9099 Standing workstation isn't something the employee can decide on their own, it has to be company policy. In that area remote work saved me, because I don't have to sit in front of a desk all day, can clock out early and go for long walks. It's not possible when you are 8-9 hours at the office followed by a commute...

[@ninja8flash742]

​@@msmith3395 you don't have to go outside to be active rolling around and the floor is better then nothing, there are quite a few things you can do with not much space

[@nganganjoroge6357]

Dr lieberman talk is so educative as he breaks nature down for us its so awesome. But it amazes me how nature is so perfect and flawless.

[@dm9078]

Dr Lieberman gave a great 7 minute talk on exercise here on KZbin. It was one of the best talks on the topic I’ve heard.

[@bestlandhomeschool]

I wonder if he exercises

[@markie9739]

@@bestlandhomeschool He mentioned that he goes to the gym.😉

[@sentience21]

Our breath is our gateway to tapping into our nervous system. Breathing less and nitric oxide nasal breathing has improved my sleep, athletic performance and my ability to regulate my emotions.

[@jennifermarlow.]

I had to consciously force myself to close my mouth and nose-breathe when using my rowing machine. And yes, it makes a difference. Feels like it expands my lung capacity. I'm hoping to be able to sleep that way, don't want to use any tape or whatever, just develop the habit.

[@chrischild3667]

​@@jennifermarlow. Don't know if you've read Patrick McKeown's Oxygen Advantage? Highly recommended. I too noticed a huge benefit when rowing versus mouth breathing. I ached for days because I was able to push my body so much harder, with less effort. I think the Dr in this podcast was too dismissive of the subject; plenty of research in this area.

[@billwilson3665]

I started mouth taping when I sleep and stick these silicone nose vents up my nose.

[@4465Vman]

did you use a particular teacher, a certain book for your techniques learned!?

[@stab74]

After half a pack of smokes and a night of binge drinking, I sleep great! 🍻

[@Laflaqua-hg5yx]

I could listen to Daniel for hours!! I love this guy. Great episode ✨

[@SeR-HaT]

Do you think that I am handsome

[@sueyeomans8673]

100. 100% commitment always from you. I watch in awe, your commitment, energy, empathy - amazing.

[@lundi44]

This is hands down one of the best podcast episodes of any podcast series I’ve ever listened to. Daniel Lieberman’s erudition is a wonder and a joy.

[@ekbanjosworld4926]

Let me guess you're generation "Z" and probably one of the so called 25% that is LGBTQ, right? Nailed it !!!

[@linjicakonikon7666]

Well good for you!!!

[@LareinaP]

This man is fantastic and totally calms down the hyped up quick fixes and extra worries that arent based on any data!! Yes DR!!

[@ottrovgeisha2150]

he is also kind of snarky and condescending in a subtle way: he of course is neither a murderer nor a person who wants simple solutions (in his own ego). :) . "We are not here to be happy", so what a strange fluke it is for that feeling to exist! Interesting contradiction for a person who is worried about people wanting "simple solutions".

[@affordablesolarguy]

This is one of the greatest guests you have had On since I subbed. Brilliant observations , grounded in reality. I rarely agree 90% with "professors", but this man is sharp . And you are a host capable of bringing out the best and worst in your interviews . Good fricking video. So much truth here. Take if from a healthy 60 year old.

[@caroleeh7269]

But where is God in all this? Professor mentioned when we began walking on two feet.........God made us this way!!! We didn't evolve from apes!

[@glenw-xm5zf]

I think he fools a lot of people. If evol'n is true, then the Bible is wrong., butI bet my life it is right.

[@glenw-xm5zf]

@@caroleeh7269 That would be an insult to the apes. God created man in his own IMAGE.. think on that for a bit. We just find new ways to mess that up

[@stephaniedavis4747]

Thank you for your amazing interviews! I’ve read so many of your interviewees, and I appreciate the amount of care and respect you show towards each guest, ALWAYS letting them explain, talk and complete their thoughts without interruptions. THANK YOU.

[@urgentcaredr]

This was by far one of my favorite podcast episodes on KZbin. I really like this professor. He has a lovely voice and great at explaining concepts. I’m a doctor and I really enjoyed this episode ❤

[@amzadulhoquechowdhury8983]

This Podcast is Dope !! I just can't stop listening it! Thanks Steve !!

[@turton9839]

My favourite episode so far. Nothing faddy. Great holistic perspective that ties together a number of interesting topics ❤

[@tatjanakane503]

What a great, visual way of explaining how our body works . Thanks.

[@spotofgolf]

Love his simple thinking about eating and breathing. People make a business of obsessing over individual elements of the human body, nose breath, zone 2, specific diet, whatever it is.

[@olddouchebag]

Yes. All grifters.

[@ellie698]

Fascinating guest, thank you 👍🏼

[@martinm6027]

I came to nose breathing through my own problems with catarrh and allergies when I was young. I carried this into running as I realised that it helps conserve water, avoid breathing in damaging cold, winter air and other impurities/dust. Mouth breathing is for ‘running for your life’, when maximum speed, maximum air intake are essential and trump healthier routine. So, if you want to sprint, yes, you will need to mouth breath for performance but there are consequences to routine mouth breathing. For endurance running, especially in hot, relatively dry areas where it likely evolved, nose breathing should be the norm, with only occasional bouts of mouthbreathing to power short sprints.

[@juliettailor1616]

Thanks for that. His poopooing of nose breathing seems unsupported.

[@24bourney]

Yeah, he's way off with his opinion on Nasal breathing. He said he needs to see more science on it, well the science is there he's just not looked into it.

[@girlanonymous]

@@24bourneyhe not way off because it is an “opinion”…just like yours is an opinion (that close mouth breathing works). He’s true when he said he hasn’t seen real science behind it.

[@madrenola]

So, mouth breathing is for intense running. Thx for the clarification!

[@jennifermarlow.]

@@girlanonymous Evidence-based medicine also needs to be questioned. "Real science" depends on who commissioned the studies. Come ON!

[@winniewilson9628]

Hi Steven, thank you for your podcasts. I always learn something new and your channel is one of my favourites❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@willroswell]

That was really enjoyable and I appreciate that when asked about a question in which he wasn't an expert, he either didn't answer or prefaced his answer with acknowledging that he isn't a subject matter expert. Love to see it.

[@leadgenjay]

Entrepreneurs should use this episode as a guide to building products and services that genuinely impact human lives based on data. Good episode.

[@XAVIER-on4yv]

The problem is they don’t profit as much

[@paper5092]

A healthy and sustainable lifestyle requires least service and products, sorry.

[@stab74]

This reads like it's AI generated.

[@leadgenjay]

No. I was talking about the part about chairs not being optimized for the back and back pain being on the rise. This can create a new market for modified chairs that support the back and reduce back pain. Back pain is a 100-billion dollar industry.@@stab74

[@teganflyman5352]

Maybe they need to look at backing universal income and lowering stress for all people.

[@lulusbackintown1478]

This was a very interesting discussion. My friend is a nurse and she cleans her house to the nth degree, disinfecting and bleaching wherever possible. All 5 of her children have asthma. I used hand sanitiser one or twice during the pandemic but stopped as it adversely affected my skin. I have a severe form of eczema. I have several autoimmune problems caused, I believe, by the ultimate sanitiser - chemotherapy. I firmly believe my cancer was if not caused by then greatly aggravated by being very stressed and having high anxiety

[@northofyou33]

My mother was a fanatical cleaner of everything and I have so many allergies and immune system issues. I know in my heart my sanitized environment played a role.

[@madrenola]

Agreed. I too dealt with the big C and realized I had to improve my default emotional orientation and minimize the stress.

[@Oturtlegirl51]

Absolutely fantastic interview.

[@ab5848]

Hey dude thank you so much for your podcasts.. very informative.. and one thing I love about your content is that you come prepared and ask the most relevant questions which I keep on getting while I am listening to these podcasts..it's like as if you read my mind while you are asking these questions just at the right moment.. Thank you so much for the hard work you're putting in

[@tashkings7995]

Favourite podcaster. Big up the uk

[@edwinhandschuh864]

What a gentleman. No doubt every student who takes his class is blessed by this genuine man. Great interview!

[@emma-louisedean3439]

Thank you for the incredible podcast! I've learned so much, and your insights have been invaluable. Additionally, thank you for the book suggestion-I've just added it to my library. Steven, your work has been a constant source of inspiration for me over the past couple of months. The way you ask the questions I've always wanted answers to makes me feel like you're becoming one of my best friends hahahaha.....Your approach is both engaging and enlightening. Thanks again for your fantastic content!

[@marissarios7218]

Steven, you are my favorite YT channel. I love learning and love your choice of guests/topics. Love YOU!!!! ❤

[@baschir89]

really really nice and i think Steven was doing a great job in getting actionable advice. great one!

[@FlowersHereGrow]

I have PCOS and so much of this applied to me: Progesterone plummeting during dieting; abdominal fat causing inflammation; so, so much!

[@marionannmacredie]

❤❤❤❤❤❤ Stephen thank you for being such a wonderful interviewer, for asking the questions I’m thinking with such minimal interruption and letting your guests impart their knowledge 💞💞💞💞💞

[@MrCvdx12]

Thank you very much for new ideas , I also do additional search on the internet about ideas I get from this channel to have a further understanding

[@nocturnus009]

So, can we just have Professor Lieberman on seasonally? As someone that ended 2022 reading The Story of the Human Body, Exercised, Sapiens & Homo Deus 2023 was a fantastic outward & inward study. I was already pot committed to the Fitness Plus program & cogitated on the absence of combat sports in the lineup. Everything was ticked off something covered in Exercised… Then Monday, January 9 hit & Kickboxing was added and I pair it with Pilates. Looking forward to reading Dr Lieberman’s next book. But I purchased & Consumed the 1st few Blue Zones books a decade ago & have been looking around KNOWING what all the Game of Thrones readers where feeling.

[@debbiemoore2747]

Dan Buettner's book was a game changer for me that lead me down a road. Ikigai is definately something most lack.

[@Bahuleng]

I've learnt a lot about sweating today. Great episode!

[@dorotaaa]

This is loaded in helpful and life changing informations, i love this podcast 🤩

[@FIN-LYTbyEWA]

Fascinating interview! Thanks for sharing.

[@jeffskinner1226]

I was a strict vegan for 8 years, my 'reward' was a horrible disease called Systemic Mycosis which only started to turn around when I began eating meat again. Yes we are supposed to eat meat, that's just the world we live in.

[@user-yk1cw8im4h]

What the fuck is that, I’m vegan and never encountered such rare disease.

[@ebirch90]

I was missing this one on my former vegan bingo card - fungal infection. Diabetic?

[@9356079]

In India millions remain vegans for their entire life and live healthy.

[@truongsinh9955]

@@9356079 False narrative and propaganda. India in fact has a very high rate of metabolic syndrome related diseases and such. Not very high life expectancy either. Hong Kong on the other hand, its citizens eat the most meat (specifically pork) compare to all other countries, and their life expectancy is 85 years old, the highest in the world.

[@jeffskinner1226]

They're not Vegan they are Vegetarian and neither do they look very healthy to me.@@9356079

[@letsif]

I think the old adage that moderation is the key, is closer to living a long healthy life. Balance.

[@tinkageorgewilliam871]

We are watching at the same time😄

[@isadoramarques2303]

I would love to see some of the professionals that came here in a debate together as they complement each other in many cases, that would be amazing!

[@r.j.1611]

These podcasts are awesome. So much information.

[@courtneyblash9614]

I've been tuning into your episodes. Timely one for me today as I have had breathing problems for a long time and didn't realize I had a deviated septum until meeting with an ENT. I started wearing nose tape which has been incredibly helpful. I can actually breathe again! This isn't a long term solution though of course as it's drying out my nose. The evolutionary history is amazing regarding the brains and our breath through energy and selection processes way back.. hmm. Thanks!

[@hilaryadele662]

Try breathing exercises, daily... That makes yiunuse your nose inhalation in sndvout.. Eventually, it will become natural for you to breathe through your nose. Not sure if it will.override your septum issue.. Worth a try... Also, make sure when you breathe in your abdomen rises.

[@prodev4012]

@@hilaryadele662 any videos or places to learn more about those breathing exercises ?

[@hilaryadele662]

@prodev4012 art of living. Sri Sri Ravi shankar. course...pranayama. bastrika. Kriya. Just do the breathing daily, and it will change tge way your physiology functions.

[@prodev4012]

@@hilaryadele662 thanks so much, aside from my nose I always feel like I can never get a deep breath in my lungs and then I keep trying and it gives me panic attacks hopefully that helps thank you!!

[@mnemonyss]

Omg! About adipocytes busting causing an immune reaction just hit home for me, no wonder diabetics have so many issues. Absolutely eye opening! The reason keto works for epilepsy is the reduction in inflammation, carbs in folks with certain factors causes increased inflammation.

[@BestLifeMD]

Incorrect. It changed the fuel source of the cells in your brain which decreases the excitability . The neurons then are less likely to be activated inappropriately.

[@stepanomelka1213]

The word "inflammation" has become a trendy thing to say in the past few years. Keto diet has nothing to do with reducing "inflammation" in your system. It works for epilepsy because of a much different biochemical mechanism. I have always been very sceptical about keto overall. It has some approved medical use, but otherwise it is overrated.

[@setarem.m9089]

Your content is amazing.... Keep up the good work. God bless you.

[@vibrationoftheone]

The gift of cancer if your survive is radical life and friend changes. Much love CEO viewers.

[@ne5464]

I feel I can't listen to any more of these podcasts. To me, it's all about what is going to kill me, that I must do xyz to live longer, I must stop doing this, be more like this, I'm bad and judged if do this....I honestly just miss the simplicity of life, of just being here. I feel Im constantly stressed about routine, trying to be healthy, following certain rules which takes so much effort and by the end of the day, I've been more stressed about staying alive, than actually BEING alive and experiencing life. which is actually affecting my health more. I'm also sick of constantly hearing about Keto and fasting. For women especially, this isn't always the best lifestyle yet it's rammed down our throats as a medicine for all. I've only had very negative side effects from this diet and lifestyle, it's effectively a pretty way of saying 'try to starve and eat as little as possible'. I know for many women it can seriously affect hormone balance and for me, completely destroyed my thyroid and menstruation which I've worked on getting stable and periods back by practicing the complete opposite (carbs, meat, fats and low impact movement). All of these 'experts' often contradict the other, so I feel even more confused. I would love some other types of conversations to be had, maybe around mental health, connection, lived experiences, new businesses, stories of hope.

[@thisistotallyfine]

It's really not that complicated. There's a central theme to all of the podcasts. Stop eating ultra-processed foods, improve gut microbiome health, add regular exercises such as cardio and strength training, and sleep well. Once you got all the big categories down, then narrow down to more details for each topic.

[@neckupfitness3274]

It is a lot, but you and only you, can decide what makes you happy. If being stressed and eating anything you want fills the bill for happiness, then do it. If one chooses to do "healthy" things to feel good and be happy, then do so. I choose to feel good and be happy, thus doing things that make me feel that way. I eat what I know helps me feel good, and I exercise the same way. It's up to you. There is no magic bullet......if we stop majoring in minors, we will figure it out! Lol.

[@ne5464]

@@neckupfitness3274 I’m saying there is so much info to try and follow, and when I do I end up getting ill and burnt out and sort of long for when it was simpler. Ironically I was happier and healthier when I just intuitively ate and moved. I have found the more I’ve been persueing health, the more rigid I’ve become. I will get there!!

[@goobygoo6105]

I love @pocketsofthefuture my absolute fave, funny and deeply spiritual

[@sonia1082]

For me these podcasts are absolutely gold. If I wouldn’t listen to them I would get sooo lazy, sitting and lying on my couch and eating junk food all the time. I need these reminders all the time like I need to hear the gospel to staying a good person.

[@arjuninfinitecouragestreng429]

You are helping many people...life and relationship are so complicated. At least you are making them known. Finding solutions can be very tough. Anyway, thank you for your immense work to support humanity!

[@markanthonyenglish2387]

Daniel is a legend!! Makes everything seem so obvious. Thumbs up 👍

[@khanyisagura4377]

This podcast reads like a book and I looove that. I don't know how to make this make sense, but I get it so that's cool ❤❤❤😅

[@kristinetenova2804]

this podcast is amazing, it has become the number one friend for my morning walks, you get so many information and in such a easy way, both entertaing and educational. Everyone who does not hit that suscribe button - you are missing so much. I am so happy that i discovered it

[@user-ry7wf3df9h]

I like this man ❤he seems open and honest and unbiased. Great interview

[@bernardinelermite1133]

Probably one of the most explanatory video I have ever watched about modern health struggles, and inflammation in particular. I have gone to the doctor for YEARS (not to say decades !!) without one single doctor having been able to explain me why I was always so exhausted and feverish. They sold me tons of anti-inflammatory medication and other stuff, but could not explain to me what exactly triggered the inflammation, and how I could avoid being sick in the first place. Every single year, I came back with the same questions, and every year they just looked at me like it was nothing serious anyway. It is many years later, when I heard about fasting as the last solution to get rid of my chronic pains, that I started finding the beginning of an explanation. And it's only today, in this very video, that I could really figure out the role of fat cells in inflammation, and WHY it is so risky to accumulate belly fat ! The immune reaction that follows fat cells "explosion", the production of cytokines and suchlike triggering inflammation, and then the inflammation creating heart diseases, brain dementia, hormonal problems such as insulin resistance, diabetes, etc. A million thanks to you for this interview, and another million thanks to Dr Lieberman !!

[@jennierussell7439]

This guy is the voice of reason. Very refreshing to hear.

[@litjellyfish]

Yes. very based in a lot of things. Not this typical DO THIS OR YOU WILL DIE, like many others are

[@andrewnorris5415]

Not all of the trendy best selling big YT views Health Gurus interviewed on this channel - have the common sense Daniel shows here.

[@adambridgeman4191]

Daniel Lieberman, compelling & entertaining. Great choice.

[@ferdiw.9808]

Does chronic anxiety caused by watching these podcasts reduce my lifespan?

[@billybigbollox]

I’m nearly 50 and I’ve never seen body shapes like we have today. Some on very young people which is quite an achievement to look the shape of late 60’year old in your teens.

[@gedwardnelson]

I’m 61 and you’re correct.

[@waitaminute2015]

I noticed the same thing. Young people are softer and weaker looking. Maybe because our generation played outside until the street lights came on?

[@shehwardhuny1055]

Its a fantastic channel

[@kylecalleja2369]

Man I love listening to your podcasts

[@hjvela1907]

I think this is the best episode in your video list. Very engaging!

[@MminaMaclang]

The surge of estrogen and progesterone part of this conversation is incredibly intriguing. I hear, for example, that female dogs who do not bear children typically end up with endometriosis or some form of cancer--kind of a use it or you lose it situation. It's interesting to think of it as, constantly menstruating is exposing your cells that are sensitive to these hormones could increase your risk of cancer. But what does this mean for people who take birth control pills? Especially those who were advised to take them due to androgen imbalances like PCOS sufferers?

[@morijka]

Speaking as Veterinarian - approx 25% intact female dogs get pyometra. Spaying before first heat reduces the risk of mammary cancer dramatically. Pregnant has nothing to do with it. Approx 50-60% of these tumors are malignant vs 85% in cats. So the answer is - do not bear children, but spay early.

[@lostlyxoxo9139]

So it means that we should neuter ourself? Because I’m wondering if we didn’t get preggo we would develop some kind of tumor. I’m scared

[@ktr2345]

love DOAC and this guest seems sound! so many expert guests contradict each other, which would be an interesting topic to diplomatically raise at one point

[@sarahrocko9975]

I enjoy this podcast too and I have learned so much from it. However, i agree with you - I have noticed various contradictions between the guests as well. It would be interesting for DOAC to share that a previous guest contradicted them and see how they respond. Or, for those guests with contradicting viewpoints to debate each other!

[@oli0808]

Exactly, just had Dr Fung on who is the fasting doctor. He says exercise for sure, it's amazing for your health, but you won't lose weight. This guy says IF is just tricking your genes into thinking that you're exercising and you only need to exercise. I think a lot of this would be consistent if there was caveats. I know Fung talks about this when it comes to overweight people, this guy may be viewing it from someone that's in good shape. Who knows. We never really go deep enough. If Steve got a whole bunch of these guys on for a debate/panel that'd be pretty cool. These are all rational scientists too so it would be cool to see how they may view the data differently, they should all be open to the data.

[@erniewhite1382]

Thanks Ivor for your insight

[@user-nb4ex5zk3w]

So many think old age is a time to take it easy. For me I walk and even jog even more than before. Really push myself physically. Handwash my clothes, gardening and building repairs. I meditated for 50years......thank God.

[@waitaminute2015]

That's still taking it easy. You do those activities when you want, not on a clock determined by someone else or something else. Unless you have some interesting stress free career, most are subjected to years of job related stress. Being busy in retirement isn't the same thing, so in a way you are still taking it easy.

[@kapitankorporacja]

Cancer among Banglash people in UK might be connected with wit D deficiency. Their darker skin takes less sun than it used to in Asia causing permanent inflamation.

[@chrissmith-lf1hz]

Agree, there is proof of a high Vit D deficiency among Muslim women in Northern European societies - esp. exacerbated (or not reduced) due to lack of dairy products in their diet.

[@beulah9503]

While this information is no doubt very valuable - each guest says different things. I want to improve my health but I honestly don't know what to follow anymore.

[@coolbreez773]

Just KISS Keep It Simple Stupid! Each meal aim for one third protein, carbohydrates and vitamins eg. A healthy meal could be one third fish, potatoes and broccoli.

[@joncrane7661]

Look inward and trust your instincts. Practice with small things. 6ou have intuition for this reason. You are an animal..you have it built into you to know. Shut your brain off. Experts only know so much. You know yourself best.

[@Heeroyui752]

Talk to your doctor first, just keep in mind everything you've learned. But a personalized health plan is the way to go.

[@coolbreez773]

Don't over complicate it. Just keep it simple. Roughly aim for one third protein, carbohydrates and vitamins for each meal.. ie. A healthy lunch could be fish, potatoes and broccoli.

[@agyos]

Brilliant! Sensible and informative. Thank you!

[@lindatamir2852]

I enjoyed this episode a lot !!!! So much knowledge, many new insights for me, thank you !!!

[@tmcoug1]

It seems to me this morning (within reason) that if we reorient ourselves to helping others including our environment, that health will arise. If not physical, certainly mental and spiritual, making any physical ailment more manageable. A few years ago I recall watching a documentary about an ancient individual who's bones showed signs of arthritis. The video depicted the man rubbing his shoulder or elbow because it must have bothered him, yet we know people can have full-on Alzheimer's physiologically without being bothered by symptoms. We all are made to die of something. Obsessing over it robs us of living and the joy waiting to be felt by simply wanting it for everyone. Cheers.

[@thefapman_official]

Comfort causes cancer Stress causes heart disease Conclusion: You cant win. Jk❤

[@bianchaesson1441]

My mother died simply of old age, 4 months short of 102. She had an amazingly inactive life. She did live as though she was a terribly stressed woman. My father lived to be 93 1/2. He did die of cancer. He was always very healthy, very active, and a most lovely lovely man.

[@martinm6027]

If you only have a very simplistic understanding. Chronic stress, from poor lifestyle etc is the problem. The type of short-term stress stress you get from exercise challenges the system in a way for which we are evolved, making us stronger.

[@Peccadilliano]

😂

[@etiennedegaulle3817]

@@bianchaesson1441Ah anecdotes. Anecdotally, the world is a perfect place.

[@marleyxl8959]

There is good stress and bad stress. stressing about cancer is bad, stress from exercise is good. Tired of these comments, they are giving you actionable steps. stop being LAZY

[@Ruhel74]

Metabolically typing diet is worth checking out- we figure out what is best for us individually based on trial and error and measuring physical/ psychological reaction to different dietary habits. Usually becomes similar to what our ancestral line’s habits..

[@valerianocioni6168]

Brilliant interview. Brilliant guest. Thank you!

[@Birdycheeks69]

Barto is back with another banger of a pod

[@missshroom5512]

I have been doing 50 jumping jacks in the morning before I start my day. Few years now. I feel like it does get my ..engine..going. Puts me in a better mood too. Kinda cool

[@tacomaco4255]

But I didn’t understand, he said energy increase risk of cancer. To do exercise you need energy right ?

[@Ashe-222]

⁠@@tacomaco4255energy = food/caloric intake. He’s referring to taking in/storing more energy (food) than you burn off through exercise/activity.

[@tacomaco4255]

@@Ashe-222 ah okay. I mean all of this makes sense and don’t, because it talks about being sitting and not doing much things can lead to diseases which makes senses but I think about my grandma who has been with a very quiet and sedentary life for the past 50 years and she’s now 90 and more healthy than anyone else so how someone without doing any exercise can live for so long but us we need to exercise more than ever now ?

[@francismageria2334]

Great stuff Steve, watching your podcast has been the highlight of my year so far..Thanks.

[@haviskam]

I was about to shut off my comp just when I saw this. Got hooked to it 1 hour. Saving the renainder for tomorrow night.

[@armondlevinia9221]

So...eat a balanced diet, exercise, and reduce your stress.

[@Stephen-kf8um]

If we evolved to eat meat as Dr. Lieberman says then we could eat a totally uncooked steak with our bare teeth and digest it easily. We evolved to have the brains to be able to cook meat and that made it possible (in about 48 hours) to digest it. We're still digesting meat way down in the intestines whereas a dog or other carnivores polish off meat in a few hours with their much more powerful stomachs.

[@sunmoonstars3879]

I eat raw liver every day, no digestion issues. I also like my steak rare, and eat steak tartare (raw steak minced) and never have a problem. A strong digestive system (excellent bile production) is necessary, I find not eating grains and sugar really helps with this.

[@SAM-od7oh]

What kind of raw liver?@@sunmoonstars3879

[@Stephen-kf8um]

@@sunmoonstars3879 Rare steak is cooked meat. You had the meat minced because your teeth weren't up to ripping it to bits without that.

[@sunmoonstars3879]

@@Stephen-kf8um rare steak is pretty much raw in the middle, and yes we have tools and implements to make the meat more manageable - knives, forks and yes a mincer. I also eat raw fish, oysters and other shellfish, and raw heart without any problem. We don’t have to tear them up with our bare teeth, we can prepare them using implements so we can eat them without any issues. What is needed is a good healthy digestive system and to chew the food properly before swallowing as digestion starts in the mouth. I would think if more people ate in this way from a young age, we wouldn’t have the current health crises in the western world. A high carb, high grain diet is killing us, not meat or animal foods.

[@OscarPerez-ox8sq]

Thank you, that helps me to make corrections in my life. Thanks.

[@rafaelcomfsemph]

i noticed this, in the 30s my back started to hurt a lot, like, 2 hours sitting my back was already aching, then i started training in the gym, and my posture got better and my back stoped aching, the feeling was my muscles in my torax got better keeping me straight

[@lianatoric7099]

interesting discussion. some made sense to me and some didn’t. how did hunter gatherers have only around 50 cycles? that means they would always be pregnant. and when you’re pregnant you also are having many many more hormones running though your body. not having a period cycles doesn’t equate to not having hormones coursing though you .

[@iss8504]

At 18:54 he says no elite runners breathe through their noses when running. He doesn't know what he is talking about. If you watch elite runners, they are nose breathing. If you breathe through your mouth you will (1) dehydrate faster, which definitely decreases performance and (2) encourage anaerobic activity. Runners are trained to breathe through their noses when training to increase aerobic fitness so you can continue to make atp efficiently. Anaerobic production of atp is very inefficient. Dogs pant because they can't sweat. We can sweat. We don't need to mouth breathe unless we work harder than the rate at which our bodies are trained. If you always train while nose breathing you will find your aerobic fitness improves dramatically if you stay at it. You're building a bigger engine. It's the Maffetone method. Well known among elite runners. The prof is clearly not an elite runner. He knows what he knows and doesn't know what he doesn't know but speaks authoritatively anyway. Good lord. Won't finish listening to this.

[@olgafatica3445]

I'm sorry,very respectfully, but that's exactly the point. Sports are great but they are an overstretch of one particular feature of possibility that our body can do. Now, I'm sure runners are overall healthy but if you think about footballers, at the end of his career Totti could not play for more than half an hour. Sports are not for normal health, they are for performance. This talk is about average humans health in Western societies.

[@olgafatica3445]

I'm sorry,very respectfully, but that's exactly the point. Sports are great but they are an overstretch of one particular feature of possibility that our body can do. Now, I'm sure runners are overall healthy but if you think about footballers, at the end of his career Totti could not play for more than half an hour. Sports are not for normal health, they are for performance. This talk is about average humans health in Western societies.

[@toekn81ify]

Agree, he's very specific about things he clearly has little knowledge about. Typical professors.. talking about evolution as if it's facts and not theories, just like most things.

[@irute-la9235]

Really liked the conversation! ❤ A lot interesting ideas! Ačiū!😊

[@slkonnaris8477]

I noticed a lot of people commenting that one expert says one thing and then the next expert says something contradictory about the same thing (whether it’s caffeine, diet, breathing etc). The truth is it’s not a “one size fits all” with this stuff. What’s healthy for one person can be detrimental to another. I trained in Systematic Kinesiology (Dr George Goodheart from Michigan was one of the people who developed it). The technique allows you to test for what is an optimal food or solution for you as an individual. It also uses a method to identify the root cause of your symptoms ( there may be more than one thing that needs addressing and each thing is addressed in PRIORITY ORDER. Systematic Kinesiology is my hobby not my profession so I have nothing to gain personally from mentioning this health approach but it may be useful for some people to find a Practitioner near them.

[@preciousmousse]

The sign of the times is that we’ve turned the value of individualism (being one’s best best self so as to enable the creation of a better world) into hedonism. We eat heavily processed sweets because we can, we ditch having a family in favour of dating multiple partners because we can, we sit around because we can, we hop from one job to the other instead of patiently getting good as something because we can. Just because we can do all these things it doesn’t mean that we should abuse those freedoms. If these attitudes won’t change and if bio whole foods won’t become the new normal that’ll make future generations look back at our eating habits and go “eww” then we are on our way to decline. I hate to say this because I do love our world more than any other one available out there, but we either give up on hedonism once more knowledge like this becomes available and implemented or we just get sicker and lonelier.

[@TheDiaryOfACEO]

Wow, such powerful takeaways, thank you for sharing with us. Hope this episode was enjoyable for you! Team DOAC

[@preciousmousse]

@@TheDiaryOfACEO Always! 🙏

[@binkymoon5238]

I'd almost agree but job hopping is often thr only way to advance a career or improve a financial situation, which may result in a general improvement in quality of life. There should be no shame or guilt associated with seeking a either a more esteemed position or higher wage.

[@shelleygower9843]

Fascinating podcast. However, i'm not convinced its the estrogen that is CAUSING the breast cancers, more likely high insulin. The volume of breast cancers in post menopausal women is far higher than those of child bearing years and yet the circulating estrogen has plummeted!

[@atlasstudionsatorino2278]

It’s great to be aware and he’s amazingly clear and row. Alway liked him, 😊

[@ebonylamb4871]

I agree about the wearing less shoes part. Eversince i developed neuropathy and arthritis in my feet, wearing shoes less has made an incredible improvement.

[@JB-ip7vr]

59:00 Keto you lost 3lbs water in first few days, 2 months is no way all water weight loss. It bounced back because he didn't give enough time to reverse insulin resistance to be able to tolerate carbs again without gaining weight.