Harvesting Antimatter power : Dyson Sphere program Ep9

[@hquest]

Meanwhile at Francis place… “Hey Francis, why is our electric bill so much high this month? Don’t tell me you have been using your computer for that mining thing?” “Uh, nope, I was building a Dyson Sphere…”

[@owlman145]

You would think building a Dyson sphere would help your power bill XD

[@Teckman8]

I wouldnt be shocked if the devs contacted Francis for his save file, just so they have a prime example of what they need to try and make more efficient.

[@FrancisJohnYT]

Might be a little tricky getting it to them, it's over 300 megs already. If this is less than a gig by the time we are finished I'd be shocked.

[@elitearbor]

I've come to realize that you're the sort of person who grew up from the most interesting children I babysat in my teen years. The sort of child who was happily building a small Lego block building in one small area, and when I looked away for five minutes, they had begun construction across every single flat surface in the house - and sometimes up the walls, too! The joy you seem to experience, and share with your viewers, in this sort of mind-boggling scale of construction is absolutely wonderful. Thanks for the quality content, truly. It never fails to bring a smile to my face.

[@carlstein9278]

6:57 birds chirping. got new headphones. now i hear all the things :D

[@r3dp9]

Which headphones? Asking for a friend.

[@Oscar-vs5yw]

:o how did u notice?

[@carlstein9278]

@@r3dp9 Sony WF-1000XM3. mostly for the noise cancelling, but they are great all around

[@FrancisJohnYT]

That is amazing headphones then, I do leave my window open a lot. Fresh air helps me concentrate.

[@carlstein9278]

@@FrancisJohnYT i sure don't mind. i actually like some background sounds now and then. makes videos feel a little more like hanging out with a buddy

[@fatihsann]

I wonder when Francis’s pc will say that’s enough. I cannot cope with you anymore:)

[@Miglow]

Not an anti-matter of if, but when. Lol

[@willderoberts2685]

I literally had to put sunglasses on for this episode, well done!

[@derrickobara6806]

FYI, you got the blueprint buttons backwards. C is to copy the blueprint in your hand to the clipboard, V is to paste it into your game (think ctrl-c, ctrl-v). So, so useful of a mod. Also check out the Dyson Sphere Blueprints website if you want to see don't neat creations from the community!

[@aidan9411]

Definitely more than enough for a trip through time in a snazzy delorean

[@r3dp9]

Here's hoping FJ goes with the "dense" dyson sphere design where you cram in as many nodes as possible to increase the power generation.

[@FrancisJohnYT]

I was wondering about that, more nodes = more power generation. Are you sure about this or is it a theory?

[@brohvakiindova4452]

@@FrancisJohnYT I don't know if this is still relevant but as far as I've heard each rocket = 96kw (be it node or general structure points) and that it's a static value so I assume solar sails/shell parts is where the luminosity multiplier really kicks in if that's correct dense nodes would be better on low luminosity stars but it's hard to say easiest way of testing would be to build a small sphere and reload then do the other design on same scale But maybe you already know better by now

[@Asphalt209]

Already completed 4 dyson spheres but still love this game so much. Now waiting for an update that will change the game. I like your playthroughs a lot.

[@ciaphas3794]

I love how satisfying it is in this game to sit back and look upon the fruits of your labor Francis's channel has got me into a bunch of games with some of that energy, but DSP takes the cake AND the ice cream in that respect

[@FrancisJohnYT]

I am not a big fan of the grind of builder games, but the pay off's in this one are just so satisfying you can't help but invest.

[@JaRyCu]

While I know this is just a game, and I have no clue of the science behind it and if it's steady enough to eventually be a real thing or not... watching this video terrified me. Not like a horror movie, but like watching a tornado or hurricane IRL. Imagine humans coming across a species or life form that is able to do this and may even be doing this. We'd look to them like cavemen look to us, if even that. In the context of this game, you've done it all with just one robot, too. Just one little creature mech thing. Imagine an entire species able to do it... just... wow.

[@guyincognito1406]

One would expect a project that takes tens of thousands of years for a highly automated civ to be impressive.

[@Sheldezare]

There have been star observations that could correspond to a dyson sphere type of structure.

[@Majromax]

That's the beauty and terror of a Kardashev Type 2 civilization, which would be able to use about one solar system's worth of energy. A Kardashev Type 1 civilization uses about one planet's worth of energy; we're about level 0.73 as per Karl Sagan's extrapolation of the scale -- our energy use would need to increase about 1000-fold to be equivalent to the planet's available energy.

[@r3dp9]

@@Sheldezare There have not. Isaac Arthur goes through this extensively. If someone were going kardeshev 2, they would be VERY easy to spot. It wouldn't be just one star darkening a tiny pit as though a dust cloud went over it, it would be an expanding sphere of dimming thousands of lightyears across.

[@keatoncampbell820]

@@r3dp9 idk while i love isaac arthur I have to disagree with him a little bit on the dyson sphere dilemma. I think the amount of power they'd be losing from IR emissions would be large enough to build sub spheres or similar structures to harness that energy. Basically, if they have tech to build dyson sphere, they have tech to harness energy efficiently enough that their energy signature would be indistinguishable from the cosmic background. Also, there's a lot of astronomy that's based on very logical assumption, but assumption nonetheless. While it's most likely that fast pulsing x-ray signals from deep space are rotating neutron stars, it is possible that they are actually just an absolutely loud alien alarm clock. Most of astronomy is based on math and indirect observation, so while it's totally appropriate to say there's very little chance of a kardershev type II existing, it's not impossible, and certainly shouldn't be portrayed that way. After all, we have no idea what tech aliens could have. Idk I just don't think given the theoretical nature of most deep space observations doesn't allow for most absolutes. I don't think anyone can say for certain there are no dyson spheres out there. Remember, the dilemma is the *apparent* lack of *observable* dyson spheres. We could also have no idea what they'd look like or they may be completely unobservable for us so far.

[@AlexScotton-Illizian]

I did not realize this wasn't the final Dyson Sphere... 😳😳! Good luck to you and your PC!! ♥️♥️

[@FrancisJohnYT]

Thanks, I'm not religious but I may get the relatives to say a few prayers for my poor poor PC.

[@fpsmarcus]

I cant wait to see how this ends

[@Conqueror933]

YOU CAN SEE THE SOLAR SAILS FLY BY?!?! HOW IS YOUR COMPUTER NOT MELTING?!?!

[@ciaphas3794]

to be fair, the sails are untextured and like a half dozen polys each the game's lighting is doin some *work* tho

[@keatoncampbell820]

@@ciaphas3794 I'm thinking even if it was a sprite, with thousands a minute and potentially tens of thousands of them active at one time, flying on complicated 2 body physics paths... Would melt at least my phone if not my computer.

[@Beregorn88]

I know, right?! And every single resource on your belt has its own 3D model too! The amount of optimization in background is truly astounding!

[@johnalexander2039]

Francis - Ive been re-watching your railworld Factorio playthrough and I was thinking it would be cool to see a Francis Factorio playthrough with the Bob's Mods suite. It would be a whole new game practically. :D :D

[@lyssalud6781]

the arrows are just going so fast that it tricks your eye, they are moving the right direction.

[@eezaak21]

This game is beautiful and the scale is amazing.

[@ShawnHCorey]

GG. If you're putting 5,000 per minute solar sails in the Dyson sphere of 0.5 AU, to fill one of 5.0 AU would require 625,000,000 per minute to fill the same percentage per minute. Good luck.

[@MTerrence]

You might want to double-check that math. The surface area of a sphere is equal to 4*pi*(r^2) and thus increasing the radius by a factor of ten, from 0.5 AU to 5.0 AU, should result in an increase of surface area by a factor of 100. Thus, he’d need 500,000/hr to get the same progress as 5,000/hr on the smaller sphere. It seems that you’ve cubed the production amount, which isn’t necessary.

[@FrancisJohnYT]

@MTerrence I was coming up with 100 times as well, having you come up with the same numbers was reassuring. @Shawn H Corey Google "calculate surface area of a sphere" gives you a calculator for it. Also yes 500,000 an hour is pretty depressing. But I figure 250,000 an hour is doable.

[@navi2710]

We need to generate lots of power so we can get lots of power... Hmm.... Your logic is unquestionable.

[@tyrannius3143]

I'm not sure, but it looked like you are missing inserters (sorters?) at 15:38, probably on the whole row you made for the second belt.

[@FrancisJohnYT]

I'll double check, they were working last I checked.

[@lyssalud6781]

at this point it looks like the dysonsphere is the unfinished death star and its calibrating its gun with that small planet.

[@ariscop]

If you're distributing production then you should consider making solar sails where optical grating crystals are available and exporting those, it skips the entire glass production chain Graviton lenses on planets with unipolar magnets are another worth considering, especially if kimberlite is available in the system

[@FrancisJohnYT]

Now that we have mining science so high we are going to start exploiting the unique resources. Our mining is at about 18 extracted per 100 mined. WE need to hit about 250,000 sails per minute so we did not burn through the optical grating crystals early on, we wanted to stretch them for the end project.

[@ariscop]

@@FrancisJohnYT spent some time playing, built a sphere, and yeah a lot of them dont seem to be worth using, unipolar magnets in particular, although the drastically simplify partical containers, there simply arent enough veins to make use of them, even with mining prod The one you really should consider though is spiniform, there's a practically unlimited supply on ocean worlds assuming you can find soil pile, and although you still need the same 800 chem plants for nanotubes it cuts out 600 chem plants making graphene, and cuts the fire ice demand from 47k/m to 11k/m

[@ariscop]

And a good 400 titanium furnaces, didnt even consider those

[@midramble7]

Are there even going to be enough resources to build the big sphere? The scale is getting out of hand. It's amazing how optimized this game is

[@Miglow]

I think the mining efficiency research will eventually get to the point where resources are essentially limitless. And, I'm constantly amazed at the optimization as well.

[@FrancisJohnYT]

I think we are at 18% mining usage now, so for every 100 we extract it only really costs us 18. After a few more upgrades we will be touching 10%. Remember all the research is done using common resources (no specials) so it should never stop.

[@RaukGorth]

Stay strong Francis. Remember you can use tools (like Cheat Engine) to speed up the game to complete the giant Dyson Sphere!

[@FrancisJohnYT]

I have a speed mod installed to speed up the game already, triple speed everything. Well so long as it's got the frames to do it.

[@larsekelund4708]

Love this

[@phpnotasp]

Have you looked into shipping accumulators? There's a video on it. On this planet, you would instead use RRs to charge 1000s of accumulators and ship those batteries to each planet that needs power. Each planet discharges them for their power. After depletion, empty batteries ship back here for recharge. No consumables.

[@FrancisJohnYT]

It takes up more space on the planets. The 75mw from a artificial sun is the most compact power source space wise. Also considering the amount of resources we are consuming it's honestly a tiny drop in a very large ocean. I like the accumulator idea but once you go beyond a certain point it's just less effort to use antimatter.

[@Uzzgub]

A Interaction helps the Algorithm

[@Sphagnopsida]

💙

[@zinon2854]

How many TeraWatts will big blue produce? Place your bets here.

[@thesentientneuron6550]

Just Terawatts?

[@dred8616]

No lenses?? Makes a huge difference!

[@zautix]

Stupid question: Won't it be faster to build a smaller sphere when you need to make Big Blue then just destroy it so it fills the larger frame?

[@FrancisJohnYT]

Does not quite work that way. Sails are super cheap they are mostly stone. The rockets are the expensive bit, so it would cost a lot more to build the dyson entirely out of rockets, though it would be a really cool way to do it.

[@Talderas]

I am a simple man. I see Notepad++ I hit the Like button.

[@FrancisJohnYT]

I simple man but not one of simple tastes.

[@therealjoal]

Have you tried headon flying into a sun?

[@FrancisJohnYT]

Not yet, but I heard it's not possible you get pushed away.

[@Sheldezare]

Wish there was a way to play this game but with a factorio surface type. Also wish GPUs didn't cost an arm and a leg so I could afford one able to properly run it. Had to use a mod to increase the amount of rss vessels can carry cause otherwise there were way too many of the moving around, annihilating any remnant performance I had left.

[@FrancisJohnYT]

I have what used to be a beastly CPU (for single core games) before AMD went and crushed everything. I may need to upgrade before this is done, the save is already at 300+ megs.

[@Sheldezare]

@@FrancisJohnYT Even considering what type of game this is that sounds too large. Methinks they need to perform some optimization in the future.

[@AaronHuslage]

This game...

[@FrancisJohnYT]

Yeah, I feel ya.

[@touchthesun]

Rule #1: Go big or go home. Rule #2: You can't go home.

[@genericytprofile852]

Home was deconstructed and repurposed into factories to help grow our glorious sphere.

[@sealessseadog2735]

Me: "ooohhhh this video has only 60 likes? Maybe many people didn't liked it..." Video: posted 31 min ago Me: *"am i retarded?"*