Has Airbus Overplayed Their Hand?

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Both Airbus and Boeing have significant operations in China today. But given recent geopolitical events, could this be about to change? And also, after Boeing facing so many challenges over the past few years, could these geopolitics now spell trouble for… Airbus? Stay tuned!
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[@salvadormuro7346]

That’s really a neat sponsorship!

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[@huwzebediahthomas9193]

@@Smartzenegger Ach fk it, why not? I found out I was related to Sigrid und Marina the singers from Austria. 👍😎🎶

[@Smartzenegger]

@@huwzebediahthomas9193 Don't worry, it seems my post has been removed. Seems I'm saying something right.

[@VeniVidiVandaliAuz]

@@salvadormuro7346 MyHeritage is a data collection operation. The resell your DNA to third parties and law enforcement.

[@Skantezz]

When your biggest issue is that demand is so high you can't produce your products quick enough, you are doing quite well.

[@kenbrown2808]

until you hit a point that all your customers decide you can't serve them and go to your competitor.

[@mykola9008]

@@kenbrown2808 Going to competitor costs a lot as all pilots, engineers, technitians and such will need to be retrained, parts stock will need to be updated and so on. Worst case when you support both types - in this case fragmentation will bring costs of operation up. Plus if all of them go to competitors, it will be the same problem immediatley. But some will switch - and this is good to the market and us as consumers as imagine there were not Boeing - would we have NEO at all? And if there were no Airbus, we would probably still have 737-200 or DC-9/MD-80...

[@huwzebediahthomas9193]

Bad planning more like. Mr Ford never found himself in that position.

[@almafuertegmailcom]

@@huwzebediahthomas9193 Except for the part where, you know, he did. To the point where he lost most of his investors because he couldn't deliver cars. In order to match demand, he demanded too much of workers, which meant he had a very high turnover, and it was hard to keep know-how at the factories. Also, he jeopardized quality just to be able to deliver, and that meant cars had massive issues and a very high rate of failure. And even with all that, Ford still had issues matching demand. On both sides, too. At some points, they fell short of demand, at others, they overproduced and couldn't sell enough cars. He did a lot of crazy stuff to fix those issues, including funding a Nazi-utopia factory-town in Brazil, a project that costed him an insane fortune, and that derailed and ended up abandoned. Manufacturing is hard.

[@tiwaringp]

​@@kenbrown2808 then the competitor faces the same problem..

[@PAC-fp9hy]

Having recently returned from Airbus India, these guys are more than capable of producing the A320 series in a very short space of time. Airbus is a global company and the speed in which Mobile set up the FAL for the A220 shows that it can respond to these waiting times.

[@hiteshadhikari]

Yep, both Boeing and airbus should look forward to manufacturing in India, there is ample workforce, skilled labour and talent here Costs are low and yes govt gives benifits to oem. India is the coming worlds factory, the sooner they realise, the better

[@anirbanbhattacharya2724]

​@@hiteshadhikari correct

[@colinspencer2205]

Airbus have an assembly line in Tianjin, China, and a second facility in another province being built.

[@d.o.g573]

@@hiteshadhikarino western country will put a factory on the ground if they are not 100% sure that these will not fall into Russia‘s hands. India needs to denounce the invasion of Ukraine - fast

[@PAC-fp9hy]

@@colinspencer2205 I know, I work for Airbus. It is not as simple however to just build a FAL. It needs properly trained fitters, logistics, support systems, etc. Not ex burger flippers from South Carolina.

[@tusharsaikhedkar9808]

I was really surprised after looking at Air India's huge order and not seeing any order for A220.

[@GThu1]

Yea, I'm kinda missing the A220s from this equation too...

[@aseem7w9]

A220 would just make their fleet more complex, rather buy a319 neo if they want small plane

[@larrydugan1441]

​@@aseem7w9 319 is not a competitive aircraft.

[@oadka]

A220 is too small and not as efficient as a turboprop.... So it doesn't make sense for air India. Air India is targeting the a slightly wealthier customer base and are focussing on larger cities.

[@andrewday3206]

@@oadka That is interesting. Where did you learn about the efficiency comparison of the A220 vs a turboprop? It is a good point

[@anonymea9567]

Thank you Captain for this detailed analysis. Airbus is very keen to open a FAL in India. Currently, they have 2 A320 production line in Toulouse (the old A380 is removed and currently being transformed), 1 line in Hamburg dedicated for the A321XLR and, 1 in Mobile (USA) for the North American market. In Tianjin, they are planning to double it, but even with this new capacity (~20 birds/month), it's not enough to supply the Indian demand. Furthermore, Airbus has the experience to set in a record time an FAL. The biggest question is about the supply chain capacity being able to tackle the demand (suppliers and Airbus itself in UK, Nantes and Spain). Boeing don't have the experience to export a FAL like Airbus, and US government seems very protective. On the other hand Indian new policies is Make in India, and this is not in favour of the USA and Boeing. Airbus seems to be on a very good path now. And if Airbus promises to come in India with a FAL and all the suppliers ecosystem (they are able to do it), Indian government is not going to expect less from Boeing.

[@BlackHawkTejas]

A few major & minor suppliers for Airbus in India exist already!

[@lagrangewei]

@@BlackHawkTejas having 1 or 2 is pointless if 1 critical part can't be produced, you can't build 99.9% of the plane, you have to finish it. the reason east asia develop so quickly is because China, Korea and Japan is next to each other, they can complete each other's supply lines. India is not willing to enter RPEC, this mean buying part overseas will be expensive due to import taxes. India need to join the FTA.

[@BlackHawkTejas]

@@lagrangewei There are not 1 or 2 more than that. China didn't reach that position in 1 day, it took them years & decades of west hand holding. So directly comparing India is a folly at best. People always ignore such basic things before jumping the gun.

[@abi3751]

Boeing has opened their new headquarters in India and they are planning to build a factory partnering with Tata

[@gooner72]

It wouldn't surprise me if we do see Airbus and possibly Boeing open up full size passenger production lines in India, it makes sense to me.

[@engineeingnerd]

Then no one will board on that trash

[@shubs3566]

​@@engineeingnerd Your military flies the Chinook and the Apache. Why don't you check with them if the parts are "trash".

[@vickyyadav5723]

@@engineeingnerd CCP bot getting jealous.....😂😂hope u don't get fire on ur Ass...😅

[@ChoCoMoCo69]

@@engineeingnerd bruhh parts of your chinooks and Apaches are built in India.

[@KingKong-xp6so]

Just matter of fact two tiny parts were built in India doesn't mean their quality is good. Those were the only parts can be called trash. So are all made in India things like their vehicles or smartphones.

[@bearcubdaycare]

Most hilarious sponsorship section ever.

[@andy-ally]

That came as unexpected :D

[@svendstengade6350]

Literally...

[@HotChook]

15:26 wow I’m amazed you pronounced Toowoomba correctly! Even Australians struggle with reading aboriginal words they’re unfamiliar with. It’s something I’ve noticed throughout the aviation KZbin space. Care is always put into pronouncing cities correctly.

[@andrewmole745]

True, but sadly he had already mispronounced Tianjin - think of tea en-gine.

[@TrueSonOfWalhall]

@@andrewmole745 well chinese names are really hard to pronounce for many because the spelling in latin alphabet often doesn't match the pronounciaton very well. I'm usually quite good with pronounciation of foreign languages even if I don't speak those languages but I really struggle with chinese because pronounciation is often completely different from what one would think when reading the transcription.

[@bluerendar2194]

@@TrueSonOfWalhall Intonation is also an issue since it's not so explicitly important to most languages - someone with a tonal language as a second language to a nontonal one will often have that "foreigner" accent

[@TrueSonOfWalhall]

@@bluerendar2194 yeah but a lot of times people will still understand you if you get that wrong, context is just as important as intonation so yeah you'll sound like a foreigner but you're still understood. if you pronounce something completely wrong because pronounciation and spelling differ more in that word than in the entire abomination of a language that is french then people won't understand you making it much more important

[@himanshusingh5214]

Maybe he never flew to Tianjin and heard its name being announced in local language multiple times.

[@raymondrizzo284]

Captain, as always you handle these complex subjects so thoroughly, merging so many angles into a coherent and entertaining video. I think it is time to become a patron. Well done.

[@MentourNow]

I’m So happy you think so!

[@robertgittings8662]

@@MentourNow *This Mentour guy is thoroughly anti - China /Anti - East (include India) very biased* Sweden unsurprised *The only reason he spoke of India is that India is not big (and advance) enough to challenge the west yet, and use India to "counter" China, wait till India have companies to challenge Airbus and Boeing*

[@dontarguewithidiots7459]

This is really great and insightful content. You really do have a gift for explaining things logically and in a well thought-out fashion!

[@heidirabenau511]

Indigo is likely doing a Ryanair, talking to other manufacturers to make Airbus give Indigo a discount on a huge order.

[@mvkudva]

Makes sense for Airbus to set up an assembly plant in India . A sure way to increase its share of the Indian aviation market . It will soon start manufacturing the C 295 in Gujarat. Boeing might then have to follow Airbus .

[@Ktx6]

Really amazing and accurate research as always! Always await your content! 🙌🏻

[@timfenton7469]

Your analyisis is always thorough and thought provoking. Thank you.

[@Dragineez774]

Wonderful analysis, and loaded with information that I did not know.

[@Underestimated37]

The one thing that we can’t discount though is that China has one big thing on their side: they have so many citizens that scaling up production is very possible, especially as they have access to the facilities that produces a lot of the components that are relied on for the manufacture of everything. It wouldn’t be shocking to see them produce mega factories that churn out 2-5x the amount of product that competitors do, and use economy of scale to price out competitors. Also I wouldn’t put it past more companies to manufacture in Aussie regional centres eventually, (great to hear you pronounce one of our cities the right way too!) labour is cheap, (especially the more rural you go) temperatures never go down to freezing, there’s a fairly quiet airspace, and tons of open room to build.

[@gcorriveau6864]

Fascinating information as always. Thanks!

[@VersedNJ]

I can see Boeing opening plants in India, Europe and maybe Canada. Vancouver isn't far from Seattle. India is a no brainer for both Airbus and Boeing, producing in another country adds to production capacity and local sales do to loyalty and local paychecks. As far as defense aircraft, only highly favored allies will get cutting edge production. As you mentioned in OZ.

[@jeanbolduc5818]

Montreal is the 3 rd largest aerospace center in the world after Toulouse and Seattle....not VAncouver

[@thelungilife6057]

Boeing Helicopters already produces Chinook and Apache fuselages in India.

[@BillButtlicker936]

Surprised that you didn't make a video (or at least mention it in this video) about the recent news about Boeing's production delay due to quality issues in one of it's supplier's parts. Which effects production of most of their popular aircrafts including 737 Max.

[@Bvic3]

Mentour has always be very US patriotic. Highlighting Airbus issues while downplaying Boeing ones.

[@BlindeEzel]

@@Bvic3 Hearing his accent I doubt he is an American.

[@Nikhil-mu9ol]

Appreciate the efforts taken by you. Such a detailed video.

[@MrTmm97]

5:19 lmao absolutely didn’t expect this 😂 epic ad

[@lalganguly7698]

IndiGo has been using ATR-72's for from 2018. They are mainly used for low density flights. They rest are A320/321's.

[@No_Camping]

50% of ATR belongs to Airbus... and their final assembly line is in Toulouse, a few hundreds meters from Airbus' mega factories there...

[@dmitriyzhurba804]

I wonder how Boeing’s production of the MAX will be affected in the long run, seeing as they again have to slow it down or stop deliveries because they have to go back and fix many of the MAX variants that had the vertical stabilizer improperly joined to the fuselage by Spirit…

[@kirilmihaylov1934]

Yep exactly

[@CicaeMeow]

Boeing is a joke.

[@BPiperDude]

Probably less than you think. Both companies have Assembly lines that are there for Assembling from scratch. You really can't do rework there. They have other groups that do modifications or repairs. That kind of thing sounds like work at MRO facilities not the assembly lines. All the Assembly lines will do is add a second/third check to verify the defects aren't present in the current production run. They would probably stop the line briefly to set up that process but then it would be business as usual. There are a lot more MRO facilities around the world than assembly lines.

[@mmm0404]

I think the Current production rate is the same as before and Boeing is still targeting 38 per month before the second half of the year. So 737 MAX production will not be affected in the long run. Deliveries are the ones that have been affected , with some ready built frames needing rework to solve that issue

[@ahndeux]

They will be back to delivering 737 airplanes in a couple of weeks. The issues are being worked out and a standard repair generated to make the alterations on the affected airplanes. The ones which does not have the problem will be allowed to deliver by the FAA after a thorough investigation. The good news is they have great documentation and was able to trace the airplanes affected by the issue quickly. Now its a matter of working with the FAA for a solution and timeframe to complete it. Its a small issue compared to more serious issues found before. The FAA will probably issue an Airworthiness Directive to repair any airplanes already delivered with the flaw. Those repairs would not require immediate grounding of the airplane and can be done in the next A check or other inspection timeframes.

[@lancethompson6839]

Deep analysis and insight. Thanks!

[@cathyburkart9395]

Great channel for all things aviation

[@Alexanderius]

- They are thinking that there might be a need for A321 Neo factory build freighters in the future - This is a long story in itself with a lot of question marks that probably deserves it's own video Yes please 😀

[@connclissmann6514]

Thanks for this video. When your DNA data was submitted, in which jurisdiction was it stored? Can it later be subject to state search warrants? Just asking for a friend.

[@Vicus_of_Utrecht]

Yes.

[@rafaelallenblock]

They aren't "checking" those aircraft in Everett, they're fixing mistakes made by non-union labor in South Carolina.

[@VanillaMacaron551]

Toowoomba is in the state of Queensland, which has spent decades developing a deep relationship with Boeing through some significant collaboration with universities, government and industry.The state also has worked hard incubating and developing aviation-related expertise and industries, especially in a zone near a military base and airport just west of Brisbane.

[@CharlieAlphaBravo]

Thank you Petter for the brilliant episode, as usual. Also: my son is SUPER happy of the shirt "Positive Attitude" I bought him, just arrived in Japan where I live.

[@huwzebediahthomas9193]

The Swedish obviously got around, Netherlands and now the north-east of Spain.

[@MentourNow]

Awesome! Send me pictures!

[@CharlieAlphaBravo]

@@MentourNow Of course: you've got email 😊

[@labontej]

One of the other challenges for Boeing to open a foreign production facility has to do with the differences between FAA and EASA regulatory schemes. Since the FAA issues both type design and production certificates for Boeing you’d either have to get the FAA on board or get creative to open a foreign production line.

[@SwedishVFR]

That’s a really cool mug you have there about 6:15 in to the video! 😍

[@BensleyDRAKE]

Good clip and exccelent job on the advert...I was about to forward then I went hang on lets see where hes going with this on lol ended up watching the whole thing.

[@MatthewL1973]

Some of the best aviation analysis online today, sir. Thank you for your content.

[@md11b777]

Thanks! Well done, very thorough coverage!

[@MentourNow]

So happy you think so! Thank you for your support!

[@mikemoreno4469]

Very interesting video. Thank you, Captain.

[@Flobbyoiboyz]

You caught me by surprise with that sponsor message. 😆

[@raym8377]

Very interesting that the currently "delivered" C919 is in storage!

[@missaisohee]

curious indeed

[@commerce-usa]

The rubber band broke? 😉

[@rockifythis]

Serious Tu-144 vibes

[@Dirk-van-den-Berg]

Was to be expected. Only recently certified, and the trialflights probably showed some teething problems.

[@TheScotsalan]

Indeed. State owned company develops it. Guv tell state owned airlines to buy them. Its been in Chinese news for a decade now about how this plane is gonna take over the world. Global times (state media ) has 1 article about it this year. A fluff piece.

[@lenhumbird]

Be aware of how often you use conjunctions like "but".

[@althafrafianto]

now that youve mentioned it, i cant stop noticing it lmao

[@althafrafianto]

now that youve mentioned it, i cant stop noticing it lmao

[@matgeezer2094]

Only recently discovered the channel, it's excellent. Another good video

[@kevinferrell6466]

That's the funniest commercial yet!

[@j.benjamin3782]

Not so sure about your Boeing union angle. The 787 plant in South Carolina is mostly non-union. It was rather big scandal when Boeing opened the line - and there was huge union pushback - but, in the end, Boeing got its way. So it's not infeasible for Boeing to make further, non-union initiatives.

[@huwzebediahthomas9193]

Daft! Organised unions is the secret for a successful engineering company, totally.

[@MentourNow]

It’s possible but not entirely probable.

[@johniii8147]

Unions likely have far more leverage this time around given the need to produce as many as possible with the resources they have (esp the 737 program). It's a years long process to set up a completely new final assembly plant. And in hindsight, Charleston certainly didn't save Boeing any money. It would also just further complicate the supply chain setting of assembly outside of the US.

[@JohnnyWednesday]

They might have overplayed their hand but at least the Beluga can deliver it

[@billyponsonby]

Your sponsor message is brilliant

[@durgeshpandey7097]

I though you were talking about DNA mobile operator from Finland. Color matched!!

[@jhankarmodak1739]

Watching this video from India and I really hope that Boeing and/or Airbus setting up an assembly line in India

[@calvinallan2208]

This goes to show how astronomically hard it to produce airplanes at scale even for 100 year old company like Boeing

[@koushikvemuri3130]

Right! I thought they would have figured out a way to streamline the production of Airplanes. But maybe, since the orders of airplanes are not as high in the past. They didn’t have a need to figure out this. But now since the developing countries are on the way to become developed and the middle class in these countries is getting huge the demand for airplanes have gotten high. Atleast now they should streamline their production process.

[@paulkirkland3263]

Another fascinating insight.

[@lifeinaspiral]

Amazing to see China achieved it so quickly. Great Achievement. There are many hidden effort from few European firm who consulted and helped them to achieve it.

[@voidvector]

Most major powers have the capability to build planes, they all already do it for their militaries. Commercial airplanes for civilians just have a lot more requirements: * economical to build * fuel efficient for airlines * conformable for travelers * safe even in adverse conditions

[@alexlightbody7118]

That ad was very out of pocket 😂

[@huwzebediahthomas9193]

Most bizarre. 😳🙃

[@MentourNow]

Very true though.

[@kirilmihaylov1934]

​​@@MentourNow BOEING has been shit last few years

[@mmm0404]

​@@kirilmihaylov1934 he is a 737 pilot...🙈

[@CallieMasters5000]

I thought you were going to say your DNA test showed you were 20% polar bear. 😁

[@MentourNow]

Haha! Almost the same thing.

[@Republic3D]

Good video. Thanks :D

[@Doodhwala181]

I never touch aeroplane but still curious to know what's happening in the world..

[@cryptowins]

Id rather have the one that’s doesn’t crash, engines don’t catch fire, one based on a modern airframe and not some 60yr old frame being patched and finally the one made by a company that doesn’t prioritize profits over quality and safety.

[@chriscaress707]

As a passenger I would not set foot on a Max as I still have the issues firmly embedded in my brain. I never saw any resolution to that that makes me want to gamble on a flight.

[@FutureSystem738]

As a 30k hour airline captain, I would step on one in a heartbeat. You literally have no idea AT ALL what you’re talking about.

[@TheGTRacer97]

Well, as a Finn, the start of that sponsor section was definitely a surprise

[@kritikmunot3604]

This is the first time I did not skip the sponsor part. That was so cool. But I doubt if my phlebotomist can do that

[@rikjanssens8971]

Boeing and Airbus needs each other in order to make the aviation safety better.

[@stanislavkostarnov2157]

for those who choose to produce airplanes inside India (Airbus or Boeing) could always sell rights to an under-license production under the Tata or another brand... I believe the biggest problem with setting up factories in India would anyway be the certification of the product*, so, it makes sense for production for the internal market, just to avoid the international hassle.... with productions in China, I could easily see the hawks in the United States using Geopolitics as an excuse to ban Airbus from US airspace (as a form of tertiary sanctions)... but I can also see how if Airbus took a very Pro-Chinese Government stance, it could become a supported monopoly on the Chinese market. With Boeing going to China, I believe that it is far too involved in the military stuff to be allowed to work closely with the Chinese... maybe if they totally separate the civilian and military branches, but even then, dual use technology laws will give them a lot of trouble... pretty sure they are within the disclosure level where they have to get Pentagon approval for going international. "the certification problem being not (necessarily) for reasons of quality. but for the fact that the procedure is less than adjusted for that part of the world.

[@Finn-hj4jy]

That was an… interesting start to the sponsor ad lmao

[@venkateshprashanth1662]

@17:42 Used to work in this Boeing Chennai office. Great place to work in !

[@huwzebediahthomas9193]

05:00 ~ WTF?!?!?!?

[@MentourNow]

😂😂😂😂

[@Blank00]

I feel like the main problem with Airbus is an Airbus vs Airbus problem, where there is a conflict between the A220 family and the A319/20NEO. One risks cannibalizing the other.

[@MentourNow]

That’s a bit of an issue.. yes

[@Incidental104]

There is so much demand for both that honestly both will do fine

[@morh8762]

I don't think there is a conflict with the 320. Only with the 319

[@heidirabenau511]

That's why Airbus hasn't launched the A220-500, to not risk cannibalising the A320neo.

[@wewillrockyou1986]

The A320 family is already mostly 321 sales nowadays, this isn't something new that the A220 is bringing about. There is basically no cost to Airbus when they are selling a 321neo rather than a 319neo, moreover they are constrained on A220 production volume and will be for the considerable future. The only way these projects are cannibalising each other is that Airbus needs a lot of capital to accelerate deliveries of both types.

[@TiptronicSS]

Very entertaining sponsor video 😂 that was unexpected 😅😂

[@candydandy2694]

hahahaa! IKR?! Lols!

[@daily8150]

Hey Petter really liked the video but I hated the advertisements coming mid sentences hopefully you can fix that.

[@huwzebediahthomas9193]

Airbus is in that uncomfortable zone. Sudden overconfidence destroys companies when they are in that zone.

[@verttikoo2052]

I would not worry about over confidence. It is just pandemic really impacted all the manufacturers. They have to make their supply lines more resilient to these kind of events and that is not easy. You have to spend both time and money. Lots of people got gray hair going through their manufacturing since the covid.

[@Digmen1]

Very interesting. I just watched a video on Chinese road and rail and skyscrpaper buidling. They build them in weeks rather than years. Once they get going on planes they will wipe the floor.

[@haruyanto8085]

They already dominate the car production industry, it's only a matter of time

[@MarchingPilot]

If I recall correctly aligned went from just airbus planes (a320 a319) and put in an order for the max

[@bluesioux9538]

I work for a supply chain in aviation & it is not easing up. In fact, we're struggling with far below minimums of personnel and no decent candidates lining up. Might have to do with pay, or ability to pass background checks or ppl wanting pay but not wanting to do the work or whatever...

[@handello]

Great vid... but more importantly congrats for being Finnish!

[@MentourNow]

Thank you! Happiest country in the world!

[@vilenius187]

Torille

[@frankcooke1692]

Wow... hearing a Swede nail the pronunciation of "Toowoomba" when most native English speakers struggle with something as simple as "Melbourne". Thank you for just listening to how words are pronounced and then saying it that way.

[@frankcooke1692]

@Phillip Banes It would be unreasonable to expect that of me

[@makeupbyseli31]

💕Good job!!

[@MZ-ov2hu]

Thank you

[@fToo]

Good point that Airbus expansion of production means greater risk of geopolitical disruption. There's also the risk that foreign countries will reverse engineering their production lines (not just their products) !

[@b127_1]

This might be true, but building aircraft at scale is very very hard. Otherwise, China or Russia would have been able to build a 737 by now. Plenty of old scrap 737's to analyse and reverse engineer. China even had a MD 90 series production line that they used for the ARJ21, but that went anything but smooth.

[@marcmcreynolds2827]

@@b127_1 China first tried their hand at an indigenous airliner through a combination of copying and original engineering c. 1980. It didn't go very well. Foreign airliner final assembly lines also got a start in China around that time. Despite all that, progress has been slow. In a lot of ways, airliners are harder than rockets.

[@toquelau5715]

@@marcmcreynolds2827 indeed. while spacefaring rockets require tighter tolerances and highly specialised professionals, their design are overall a lot simpler with way less moving parts and complex redundant systems comparing to airliners, not to mention safety - an unmanned satellite delivery goes wrong, crash into the ocean, monetary loss and try again. an airliner full of passengers...

[@AlTheEngineer]

@@b127_1 I mean the C919 is mostly a copy of Airbus designs. So there you have it.

[@outman1923]

Sadly, you don't even know that it was the Chinese Wang Suke who created Boeing's first airplane. If you read history, you will find facts. Including the creation of NASA, the Chinese have played a very important role. In the global semiconductor, the Chinese also play a very important role. China will not stop because of the blockade of the United States, we will have our own planes and semiconductors. Science and engineering are not the preserve of white people, humans can own them, and Chinese are human beings.

[@aeroflow2749]

Woww, how many airplanes are flying and still in a service, but 80% of new pilots struggle to land their first job at any airline.

[@MentourNow]

Where do you get that 80% figure from?

[@huwzebediahthomas9193]

@@MentourNow Plucked right out of the sky, no doubt.

[@candydandy2694]

😳 That sponsor ad though! 😅👏🔥

[@SuperpowerBroadcasting]

5:10 Lol at the sponsored portion

[@JohnnieHougaardNielsen]

It could make a lot of sense for both Airbus and Boeing to have factories in India, even to only serve that growing market, and I'd expect the government to already be making "persuasive arguments" in that direction....

[@danharold3087]

India like China wants to grow. Maybe it is better not to build factories in countries wanting the technology and skills the factory bring with it. This is a problem in countries that respect IP rights. India is not there yet.

[@jspillai1869]

@@danharold3087 At least India does not steal IP unlike China. American plants in India are American owned, operated and are able to repatriate their profits back home. Already Indian firms makes parts for Boeing both civilian and military. India is in talks with both GE and RR for developing jet engine from scratch with India funding it and owning the IP jointly.

[@haruyanto8085]

​@@jspillai1869 Imagine thinking using the labour, resources and manufacturing of another country while raking in almost all the profits and benefits, while also dumping all the waste in that said country will be beneficial to said country, Indians still have that colonised mindset. Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, Indonesia and many other asian countries do it, China does it too, you think those colonisers can steal and loot for hundreds of year and not expect to have something taken from them too?

[@anthonydecastro6938]

as a backgrounder, you could have reported on the number of 737 max aircraft already produced but not yet delivered ever since the crashes and the pandemic. obviously, Boeing has so many more aircraft already produced but needing to be delivered. so if deliveries have been resumed, Boeing obviously has the advantage. but these are aircraft that have already been ordered. as for new orders, Airbus retains the advantage. yes, the waiting list is longer. but if Airbus is able to succeed in increasing production, then that would ease a bit. still, obviously, both aircraft manufacturers need to expand their production lines. also, the problems are between the U.S.A. and China and therefore impacts on Boeing; this does not affect France or Europe and therefore does NOT affect Airbus. China is NOT Iran. Or, currently, Russia.

[@keithhertzer9010]

Thanks!

[@MentourNow]

Thank you!

[@Luke_Go]

You made a mistake, delivered aircrafts isn't the same as produced aircrafts. Because of several delivery-stops/groundings, Boeing has had about 150 airplanes collecting dust and awaiting delivery. (I don't know the exact number)

[@Mikey14742]

I will not be surprised if Airbus opened an assembly line in India because. Many big firms are setting up in India. Apple, Tesla is tempted to set up its giga factory , Taiwanese manufacturers , Investments in Semiconductors. Lets go INDIA 💪

[@kamakaziozzie3038]

but the question is- does India have enough cheap child labor like China? Those large companies wont admit it but legal child labor is one of the main reasons they set up shop overseas.

[@Mikey14742]

@@kamakaziozzie3038 IDK about child labour but IND have cheap labour and I don't get your point why would any firm employ a child that is illegal

[@ElohimÆsir]

Pretty crazy that I moved from one side of the world to the opposite (Perú to Australia) 🇵🇪🇦🇺 to become a pilot, I love Boeing 🛫and Airbus, I'm in thought of joining the Royal Australian Air Force, and my other option is to start my pilot academy in Toowoomba... in a flight academy that has cadet partnership with IndiGo..... Oh yeah, It's all coming together

[@C.Fecteau-AU-MJ13]

Good luck man... But if you wanna join RAAF, from what I recall, you'll have to be a citizen for a while before you can apply. They used to do a program where they'd take on suitably qualified foreign nationals, (they may still do) but the bar was super high and was really designed for people who come from one of the "Five Eye" nations. I'm probably not telling you anything you don't already know and that's pretty dated information... so things may have changed in recent times But keep at it man, 'straya can be a great place to build a life, if you're the type that loves rules and regulations. And if you wanna be a pilot, you have to be the type that loves them some rules and regulations. 😉

[@johniii8147]

Not crazy. Pilots do that all the time.

[@philsurtees]

@@C.Fecteau-AU-MJ13 _"'if you're the type that loves rules and regulations"_ Ah ... nope, Australia is the *_EXACT OPPOSITE_* of that...

[@C.Fecteau-AU-MJ13]

@@philsurtees Australia has a very authoritarian political culture, albeit a very subtle one... As John Anderson put it, "We are very comfortable with big government in our lives and have a very efficient government as a result. For better or for worse." To say it's"the opposite" You'd either have to know nothing about Australia, or be too stupid docile and apathetic to notice.

[@agententropy5577]

Cool story, nobody cares.

[@mfc4591]

I begin to wonder 'What about resources, and how much does the availability of materials affect production in the long term?'

[@toquelau5715]

material availability is rarely the main issue. the problem is developing machinery and chemical processes to combine them and make useful alloys and composites. requires highly specialized material scientists, engineers and programmers that, even with such a large population, are hard to come by! I reckon, China will surreptitiously try to 'import' personnel from Airbus/Boeing with very attractive wages, though I imagine that for such high-stakes positions, their employees are legally bound to sign agreements that prevent them from going to a competitor in a similar trade.

[@CaptVirtual]

0:12 It is so hypocritical when the current leading countries, governments, businesses complain that someone else is beginning to do exactly what they have been doing for decades (or centuries). Given their size it is totally within China's economic interest to develop their own industries.

[@omnibus360]

Airbus has also spent years doing helicopter production in China, recently we saw the first Chinese own built helicopter flying which is clearly “inspired” heavily by the Airbus EC135 T2 and Bell 429. It will be interesting to see if they can begin to produce their own in house solution…. China is a huge helicopter market

[@stradivarioushardhiantz5179]

What will happen to 737 if the upcoming engines are getting bigger.....

[@MentourNow]

There will not be any further iterations of the 737

[@BPiperDude]

@@MentourNow I think what Boeing is trying to do is design their next small plane around the TTBW. If they can get that plane up to the same size as a 737/757 and still fit inside a Gate type 3 then that will be their plane. It will have a huge advantage over the 737-MAX and A32x-NEO as they exist today. Making the TTBW work though is going to be tough to make it carry 200 people or so though. I can see a pretty big divergence in planes for the future. I think it would be interesting to see in say 30 years small regional planes like the TTBW and larger planes being more like the flying wing or probably more likely a blended wing.

[@mmm0404]

This is the last iteration of the 737

[@simonm1447]

​​@@BPiperDude Boeing is going to build 2 truss braced wing prototypes together with Nasa. They will have to do some research until they know if the concept works or not. On the other hand Airbus also prepares for future, with a new carbon fiber wing for the 321, which will have a higher aspect ratio and folding wing tips. It could be used to further extend the aircraft family to a modern full size 757 replacement, and if the 320 should be no longer competitive with the original wing they could stretch the A 220 further to at least the size of the 320.

[@DavidBromage]

Yes please, a video about the A321P2F.

[@MentourNow]

Can you expand on that a bit?

[@ElohimÆsir]

Pay to fly?? Maybe? Haha

[@apexjailor9349]

@@MentourNowpassenger to freighter- I suppose you could talk about whether it has potential to overcome Boeing‘s dominance in the short haul cargo market. Idk if it’d make a good video though. Maybe if you also talked about the A350 freighter version and the long haul market it could be interesting.

[@davecrupel2817]

A backlog of *6,000 320/321s?!?!* WHAT?! That is so much more than i thought they had!!!!

[@CW-rx2js]

This video hasn't aged well 😂😂 Boeing is faster in deliveries because they compromise safety.

[@nbt3663]

I got to fly for the first time in 33 years. I hope it goes well.

[@g.tucker8682]

Bon voyage!

[@dfeuer]

Why don't the overhead bins lock automatically at final approach altitude? The purser or a pilot could hit an unlock switch on arrival.

[@chingymofo1]

15:28 I live close to Toowoomba and that is a very tame name for an Australian city/suburb 🤣

[@JackDraak]

From what I've heard, India has already officially become the world's most populous nation... I heard so only this past week or so.

[@MentourNow]

Yes, we should have said months not years.

[@sharg0]

@@MentourNow It already has happened, not going to.

[@johniii8147]

Doubt that's good thing for India. Too large a population has been one of the key things that held them back.

[@eva_nescentt]

​@@johniii8147 tbh its the lack of unity in the population holding india back...india has a diverse culture and thats amazing but at the same time poses its own problems as unity is slightly harder to attain, its gonna be good if we could look out for eachother as indians and work towards developing the country better.

[@lawyerpanda1856]

​@@johniii8147 indian here i think i would be best to speak about the issue, Population is not the problem cause large population means large number of workforce, the problem was/is that there was/is ununiformity of money like ppl who have money have huge amounts which they used to not donate due to religious reasons (wrong practices, brahmins priests tend to stop ppl from donating cause they build fear among individuals that ppl will loose Money God (kuber).) Then these brahmins created castes (dalits) and stopped them for not having anything like educations and money. Literally stopped them by again putting fear of God amoung wealthy and authoratative individuals. So dalits used to escape villages and run to cities leaving behind all the property and farms and starting from scratch. These were the religious barriers and side that India had to go through which no one will tell you or the rest of the world, but as you can see it was bad. But now due to NGOs Non Government Organizations and volunteers/ employees and some saints (who started the movement of breaking down the bad religious practices) we are so much better 😁. We still are a religious country, no doubt but we now just following good religious practices (that were lost and are now brought back). I am guessing you never knew this side of story 😅, cause its not shown in this depth, they just use the word corruption thats it. But now you actually know the whole truth. 😄 Casteism is/was the root of all evil in India. We have progressed very fast but its not 100% erradicated but i know it will soon. 😁🙏 Namaste.

[@mofayer]

I would like to hear about other single isle airline manufacturers like Mitsubishi and Embraer, are they looking into this potential opportunity?

[@johniii8147]

Mitsubishi. No. They already tried and failed miserably. They reverted to focus only on being a supplier.

[@Eastmarch2]

Petter, you've really mastered the English Y and J, ( you got both yankee and jet exactly correct!). Maybe the finnish side helped ;)

[@peiershen8221]

NO, airbus is gonna me the sole monopoly for airplanes in the next few years.

[@scwewywabbit]

I hope this push for higher pace of production doesn't end up with poor parts quality and accidents!

[@AlTheEngineer]

If they go to India and China it will for sure be low quality. I hate to say it, but that's just how it is.

[@simonm1447]

​@@AlTheEngineer China has a final assembly line - not a full production, the parts are produced somewhere else

[@AlTheEngineer]

@@simonm1447 you can still make the final assembly poorly causing the entire product to suck and or be outright dangerous. We all saw what happened when Boeing outsourced some of their software for the 737 Max to $9/hr contractors to save money.... Nothing good ever comes out of this. In my humble opinion, they need to keep everything as locally as humanly possible.

[@simonm1447]

@@AlTheEngineer that's right, you have to hire the right people. India can build own rockets for space flight, so the final assembly should be possible if you don't just hire the cheapest employees.

[@AlTheEngineer]

@@simonm1447 I think there is no point to any of it. We need these jobs in our western countries as it is. Why export it? We have aspiring European engineers and Americans willing to work these jobs and make the best products in the world. Including final assembly. The only reason Boeing exported software development to India was to save money and the result was catastrophic. You ALWAYS get what you pay for. ALWAYS.

[@chunniu3936]

Well, I am so hoping that Boeing will build a new production line (civil aircraft to be exact) in India! I mean the whole-nine-yard like the one that Airbus has in Tianjin China.

[@BeautyByLinnoria]

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[@candydandy2694]

hahaha! IKR?! I did not expect such an ad! LOL!