Has equality improved in South Africa 30 years after apartheid? - World Questions, BBC World Service

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@dewaldcarstenstimberfoxfir7604
@dewaldcarstenstimberfoxfir7604 Күн бұрын
Only corruption has increased 1000%.
@lm_b5080
@lm_b5080 22 сағат бұрын
not so fun fact: in the 1990s south africa was ranked on the Corruption Perception Index in the 21st spot next to economies like Japan, Belgium, Austria. today it is ranked 83rd.
@floatpoint1050
@floatpoint1050 19 сағат бұрын
And that is still a rather conservative estimate
@KaniahNarrainsamy
@KaniahNarrainsamy 18 сағат бұрын
Yes, we all want a better life but first and foremost " Corruption " must be stopped
@RandomSouthAfricanMan
@RandomSouthAfricanMan Күн бұрын
It's so weird that coloured people are trying to push exclusive ownership of the khoi/san identity, when in reality, the khoi/san people were mostly absorbed by Xhosa and Tswana tribes.
@mechailreydon3784
@mechailreydon3784 Күн бұрын
If you visit the northern cape particularly the remote parts of it you would understand why. The link is blatant. The problem is these aren’t the people you think of when you hear “coloured”
@morneheemro8775
@morneheemro8775 Күн бұрын
@ RandomSoutgAfricanMan, the fact is is that archeology proves that the Xhosa came/moved down from central Africa more than 500 yrs ago. Yet the Khoi traded with the early travelers even before the Dutch came past cape of good hope.
@Healingson
@Healingson Күн бұрын
Many Zulu people can also lay claim to Khoisan ancestry as well
@lovedlover2667
@lovedlover2667 Күн бұрын
​​@morneheemro8775 you trust those studies 😂😂wow. Than u can beleive that ancient Egyptians were arabs
@STYLZ550
@STYLZ550 Күн бұрын
True this first nation claim is not logical from the coloured community. How does a community who had to have other races exist before them and have them as offspring claim to be the first nation.🤔 Descendants is more accurate.
@nicholas11121
@nicholas11121 Күн бұрын
It’s gotten worst in every way
@Ash_Hole-f7p
@Ash_Hole-f7p Күн бұрын
Every way and every day we sink further
@ce666isa3
@ce666isa3 21 сағат бұрын
Hayi idrama
@gregoryshaba5892
@gregoryshaba5892 Күн бұрын
ANC shouldn't be lying to people and stop bringing up apartheid every time they are asked about their failures.The ANC has failed the country especially black people. period.
@carl4017
@carl4017 Күн бұрын
EFF is short sighted. You take the land, you destroy the economy. We will follow in Zimbabwes footsteps with this studpidity
@valentineisraelshabangu4069
@valentineisraelshabangu4069 23 сағат бұрын
The issue is not land trust me most black folks don’t care about the land so let’s not use scare tactics here. How can 8,5% of the SA population own 90% of means of production and economy that has been held for 500 years by whites then you come with that Zimbabwe when blacks are poor.
@sds2954
@sds2954 26 минут бұрын
Right!! Naledi has so much potential but she has been so indoctrinated and stuck on one point. It's like that's the only policy she can quote
@e-strategicsaccu-maths9210
@e-strategicsaccu-maths9210 22 сағат бұрын
A few corrections at the 3:30 minute mark. Black ownership on the JSE is closer to 70% than 30%. The biggest holder of equity is the government employees pension fund PIC. Second, every government policy leads towards favouring African people, through ruthless implementation of Apartheid policies. Third, the country is so transformed, it has to now be repaired. I can no longer watch this utter drivel.
@siohonelson9078
@siohonelson9078 18 сағат бұрын
Thats a lie a white man tells himself to make him justify his evilness of his system.
@leeharch
@leeharch Күн бұрын
PA failed dismally to answer simple questions. He just made the whole thing about being coloured !! EFF delivered.
@grungle-ix8om
@grungle-ix8om Күн бұрын
You can't counter the argument . You can empathise with them either. Shows hiw selfish you really are. This is ablut greed for you, not ablut fairness.
@AlistairClive-vz4dh
@AlistairClive-vz4dh 20 сағат бұрын
Eff is built on race, the party doesn't represent any other race. So when PA represents the colored people you have a problem. You are not the original habitats of the southern tip...this is not your land
@ngalahansel6066
@ngalahansel6066 3 сағат бұрын
I also noticed that. Sadly almost all of them were quite shallow in their responses and failed to give concrete answers. Only Naledi Chirwa came close to giving sensible answers
@manandomkhabela7136
@manandomkhabela7136 Күн бұрын
The internal squabbles and greed within the ANC has resulted in 30 wasted years to address inequality. It took the apartheid government 20 years to enrich and share land among Afrikaans people. Many mines closed down after 1994 but the ANC government couldn’t give those mines to communities or black people to address the wealth gap.
@firstcomment749
@firstcomment749 Күн бұрын
Strategy re redistr of land is not limited to agrig land only.
@charlo90952
@charlo90952 Күн бұрын
How could land expropriation with or without compensation solve anything? Land has to be farmed by competent farmers with access to capital. Just turning millions of people who know nothing about farming onto the land will lead to mass starvation. Zimbabwe is the clear example.
@everythingelsesport2000
@everythingelsesport2000 Күн бұрын
Those who work the land are ought to keep it, we also have to acknowledge that there’s a lot of vacant land owned by people living overseas, not all land is farmland!!!
@lovedlover2667
@lovedlover2667 Күн бұрын
​@@everythingelsesport2000land shall be expropriated...yall can evacuate to where exactly? 😂
@charlo90952
@charlo90952 Күн бұрын
@everythingelsesport2000 land is just an expense if you do not know how to use it productively. surely you're aware of what happened in Zimbabwe. They're asking the old white farmers to come back, and they're willing to pay compensation.
@SibusisoMaseko1
@SibusisoMaseko1 22 сағат бұрын
@@charlo90952 This is SA, not Zimbabwe. Land belongs to black South Africans weather it is farmed or not.
@charlo90952
@charlo90952 21 сағат бұрын
@@SibusisoMaseko1 SA is full of refugees from Zimbabwe because the economy is bankrupt. Land expropriation would bankrupt SA overnight. If you think it's bad now it would be ten times worse with expropriation. The better solution is for blacks to go to agricultural colleges and learn how to farm, then rent farming land, if they really want to farm. But I don't think they want to farm. They just want the land.
@brightonmukwindidza9627
@brightonmukwindidza9627 Күн бұрын
The applause is disturbing
@BatsiraiMusuka
@BatsiraiMusuka Күн бұрын
EFF was very impressive. I will not state which representative was representing so much self interest it was appalling for a national party.
@derosime
@derosime Күн бұрын
That girl in the EFF wasting her talents in that party.... Only a matter of time she leaves, seen that ship is already sinking
@iforget6940
@iforget6940 Күн бұрын
The National Party (NP), which governed South Africa during apartheid, officially dissolved in 2005. Before that, its political alignment shifted over time: 1. Joining the ANC: In 2004, the New National Party (NNP), a rebranded version of the NP, officially merged with the African National Congress (ANC). This marked a significant shift for a party that once opposed the ANC ideologically and politically during apartheid. 2. Relationship with the DA: Before merging with the ANC, the NNP had initially joined forces with the Democratic Alliance (DA) in 2000. However, ideological differences and conflicts led the NNP to leave the DA in 2001. Thus, while the NNP had a brief alliance with the DA, its ultimate fate was to merge with the ANC in 2004, and the party formally dissolved the following year.
@benjaminzondo7090
@benjaminzondo7090 Күн бұрын
Taivemo ,anogona Naledi uyo
@BatsiraiMusuka
@BatsiraiMusuka Күн бұрын
@ She is fine where she is. She (and they) know what their principles are. YOU are at where your principles are aligned with. EFF is a Pan Afrikan party and that is the hardest philosophy to align to in this day. I applaud them because I know the burden of the goals they carry, they are close to impossible due to current populism and a White hegemony.
@grungle-ix8om
@grungle-ix8om Күн бұрын
​@@iforget6940Therefore the NP still had their say over south afrucans. Shows how disingenuous ANC were back then
@ngalahansel6066
@ngalahansel6066 3 сағат бұрын
Unfortunately this felt rushed and none of the panelists, except for Naledi perhaps came close enough to giving sensible answers. Most answers were shallow and failed to really give SOLUTIONS and Ashley Sauls had NO SOLUTION whatsoever to anything as all he kept saying was his identity 😂. Sadly with South Africans thinking like this and the fact that no white South African was on the panel (and white South Africans own most of the wealth) is a sign of how solving inequality in SA is still a long way off.
@gregoryshaba5892
@gregoryshaba5892 Күн бұрын
If the EFF can use the hate they have for fellow white South Africans to love their black communities, the country will change for better. Hating each other won't alleviate poverty in our communities.
@siohonelson9078
@siohonelson9078 18 сағат бұрын
We don't want to be loved. Why don't you love yourselfs. Why do you want to be loved by your oppressors
@tiMos-w1n
@tiMos-w1n Күн бұрын
Im not EFF but they was better in this panel. Also, what's up with the PA, are they that desperate for "coloured votes"?😂😂😂😂
@benjaminzondo7090
@benjaminzondo7090 Күн бұрын
Proud to have been part , thank you BBCWQ for coming to cape town , question by me in 15:50 minutes
@Calvin2Concieted
@Calvin2Concieted Күн бұрын
I think it's fair to say that African politicians struggle to maintain a government. It's best to look for other races that are found in South Africa to potentially drive this country and maintain our government. This country has so much potential that is being exploited by the same people who were fighting for democracy.
@tiMos-w1n
@tiMos-w1n Күн бұрын
Maybe because these governments are your peoples creation. If you left the Africans alone with their own cultures without trying to influence them with your media, maybe they would be 1000 times better
@tiMos-w1n
@tiMos-w1n Күн бұрын
Maybe if the Africans were left Alone they'd be a thousand times better
@dadlymenzi4993
@dadlymenzi4993 Күн бұрын
Calvin, lets not forget that because of colonialism and apartheid a numerical minority has become a cultural majority, whose world view, ways of seeing and ways of being have become dominant. Ways through which we refract political, social, economical, cultural and other realities of SA.
@Magutshwa-CONSPIRACY_THEORIST
@Magutshwa-CONSPIRACY_THEORIST Күн бұрын
How about you say, you have corrupted African leaders and make them your puppet to the point that your, you coming to talk nonsense about African leaders as if they've than that by themselves by your very own to continue your devide and conquer.
@KaybizzlePhasha
@KaybizzlePhasha Күн бұрын
You're thinking lacks research and common sense ... Funny how you're blatantly absolving your own contributions. Privileged opinions like yours should remain in the Toilet 😂
@leonseymore263
@leonseymore263 23 сағат бұрын
As a white male doctor, I am doing much better than in 1990. In 1990 , as a conscripted medical doctor, the army was paying me one American dollar a day. ... that is 20 American dollars per month. Now, sometimes, I am doing much, much better... depending on whether I get contracts or not.
@DrugHunter-fy6nf
@DrugHunter-fy6nf 22 сағат бұрын
Yes but what about the accommodation and food you got over and above
@Romes761
@Romes761 Күн бұрын
That PA guy doesn't know who he is. If only he knew better.
@siohonelson9078
@siohonelson9078 18 сағат бұрын
PA are the most confused people in South Africa
@ngalahansel6066
@ngalahansel6066 3 сағат бұрын
I'm a Cameroonian and studied at CityVarsity on Roeland Street, not too far from where this debate took place. I later studied at Wits and my time in SA was one of the most rewarding times in my life for which I will forever remain grateful. My time in Cape Town in 2018 made me realize the deeply entrenched idea of race in SA but especially among coloreds. I find it wild how Ashley Sauls cannot answer a simple question without having to make the case that the Khoi are indigenous to the land. Of course that makes them African as he rightly said and I'm not sure why the Apartheid machinery split hairs like this but Black people lived in SA before the white man came with his racism. Shaka fought them off too. You cannot solve economic issues by simply declaring people as the owners of the Western Cape(whatever that means). If South Africa is to work, clinging to racial classifications must not be the way to do it. All South Africans need to work together and the ANC with its majority needs to take rougher laws especially around land reform and prove that they are willing to STOP crime and CREATE JOBS. They can't keep walking on eggshells for fear of offending white people. Take drastic measures that make SA WORK FOR EVERYONE
@pranavramraj5141
@pranavramraj5141 19 сағат бұрын
Our country is kaput. I’m tired of living in constant fear. Just yesterday I was able to survive an attempted home invasion.
@bonolomakgatadeluent3150
@bonolomakgatadeluent3150 Күн бұрын
These guys just wasted our time, only EFF gave sober analysis
@lolasoares1464
@lolasoares1464 20 сағат бұрын
No discussion on illegal immigration (million) which has had a huge economic impact not to mention crime, increase of informal settlements.
@reginaldgeorge3291
@reginaldgeorge3291 16 сағат бұрын
😢... the forgotten generation are the senior citizens: They were the youth of the 70s ,80s, and 90s suffered within the country under apartheid, sanctions, discrimination, and were in the Frontline demanded Mr. Deklerk to free the struggle leaders,but they are senior citizens who have not yet benefited, 😢 💔 💙 😕 have no voice or representation of their plight, especially financially 😢, these are the majority of the poor of the poor 😢 that liberated the country for all to enjoy but they are forgotten 😢 and unrecognized, yet the old men and women in government have been hording state funds and fattening their stalls.Were is the human rights of the poor of the poor senior citizens of za 🇿🇦 😢????
@deanaly2634
@deanaly2634 20 сағат бұрын
South Africa is a beautiful country with a great potential but it has been ruined by the ANC.
@siohonelson9078
@siohonelson9078 18 сағат бұрын
Who should rule it
@PreciousMalatjii
@PreciousMalatjii Күн бұрын
But you left out the main opposition party in parliament. Mkhonto wesizwe party.
@effsupporter6106
@effsupporter6106 Күн бұрын
They had to bring the blackest coloured
@siohonelson9078
@siohonelson9078 18 сағат бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@ngalahansel6066
@ngalahansel6066 3 сағат бұрын
😂😂😂 That's one confused colored
@marandareubenraedane521
@marandareubenraedane521 Күн бұрын
With the ANC in power and it's corrupt leadership NOOO ! Even the GNU is not going to solve the problem, instead; the problem is worsening because the president of the so-called GNU is the same president of the ANC who is there to make sure the ANC 's ideologies are executed.See what is happening as of now, always quarrels that has got nothing to do with the economy and equality of the people of South Africa.
@ceciliamungofa7374
@ceciliamungofa7374 6 сағат бұрын
When i visited Robin Island in 2015 , it was isolated. It could be a beautiful island if restored back but without the prisons, but the prisons as a monument. They're churches, schools and other. Its livable.
@JOY29702
@JOY29702 12 сағат бұрын
The part where he was like "we need to have tough conversations around Identity"....made me realize that he was referring how the land was taken in the first place, through divide and conquer.
@SPOK-zz5lj
@SPOK-zz5lj Күн бұрын
3500 STATE OWNED farms are not being utilized
@mondemdluli5701
@mondemdluli5701 Күн бұрын
I am 2:27 in watching, with this panel, I just don't think it's worth it for me wasting my time watching...
@astronomers
@astronomers Күн бұрын
What about Coloured people??
@HenryReubenReuben
@HenryReubenReuben Күн бұрын
Always such question?
@MrsLekker
@MrsLekker Күн бұрын
Beautiful, most friendly people in SA...
@LT.J
@LT.J Күн бұрын
Coloured ppl are black people they just wanna feel special
@lovedlover2667
@lovedlover2667 Күн бұрын
​@@MrsLekker😂😂😂
@siohonelson9078
@siohonelson9078 18 сағат бұрын
@@MrsLekker Cape flats
@MotsekiMolale
@MotsekiMolale 23 сағат бұрын
Not improved at all,worst than apartheid years 🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦
@sharonadams9721
@sharonadams9721 23 сағат бұрын
Why doesn’t the EFF lady talk about Malema & VBS?
@Lekkervideos4sho
@Lekkervideos4sho Күн бұрын
They don't answer the questions
@Cper2000
@Cper2000 Күн бұрын
KZN police is protecting it's citizens, they can't wait for future legislation.
@IK_MK
@IK_MK Күн бұрын
No... Next question
@senior_lamola
@senior_lamola 19 сағат бұрын
Useless PA
@nareshsingh3394
@nareshsingh3394 16 сағат бұрын
Under white apartheid, there was total job reservation act ,only white had all good jobs ,not whites only had labour and low paying jobs. Indians played a major role in getting rid of apartheid since 1860. But under this Mandela government,there is a job reservation act called BEE ,that exclude lndians and coloureds Another racist act is entry to university and medical school, only a few lndians and coloured are allowed, there are many such acts . Black politicians are very racist In Parliament they shout " lndians must go back to lndia" Indians have overstayed their welcome in SA ,it is time they went back to lndia" We lndians were brought as slaves in 1860,suffered with blacks ,this is how we lndians are treated. More lndians have been killed by black criminals then during apartheid. This is the truth ,SA is a black racist government
@carl4017
@carl4017 Күн бұрын
Its nice to see these discussions with such a diverse pannel. SA has come very far in a very short time. Well done guys. The countrys politics is still terrble but its nice to see people talking a bit more. Maybe the new generation can get it right
@liezelvanwyk4079
@liezelvanwyk4079 18 сағат бұрын
The ANC will never improve the lives of people as poor people are easier to control.
@RiaanBentingBenring
@RiaanBentingBenring 2 сағат бұрын
Am a South African but my country is so beautiful but ,,,,,,some people just take the country down and it's break my heart
@jakobusphsteyn3500
@jakobusphsteyn3500 Күн бұрын
This deeply unequal situation did start in the early 1800's started by the then colonizers and being perpetuated until the late 1900's, when democracy came into being but has been destroyed by the push towards central total control by a very communistic world view by the new leaders. This view until now has been proven to be disastrous world wide, and the racial policies is used to create a bogyman like previous regimes ( the nazis denigrating the jews Hutus Tutsis etc.). The politicians and the so-called elite movers and shakers up to now has proven themselves to be totally out of touch with reality, human nature , aspirations and values pertaining to what is important for a well educated working class able to think for themselves, take responsibility for their lives and that of their offspring. The emphasis placed on government's rule instead of service to the community, where the community should be able to democratically run their own situation bound by the constitution and not political party agendas, dictates and ideology.
@XolaniXaluva
@XolaniXaluva Күн бұрын
EFF is direct and on that it deals with the heart than having to check the leg whilst the real problem is in the heart.
@jacoschlebusch9053
@jacoschlebusch9053 5 сағат бұрын
People don't really want land , most young people in South Africa want the soft life, Most of South Africa's land is owned by the government - they must give the land owned by the government to people looking for land. The issue of land is really about the mineral rights - government need to have the political will to transfer mineral rights to communities and to really empower communities to prosper.
@nehxaba1542
@nehxaba1542 Күн бұрын
Nope, we are on the breadline. Bleak, very bleak down here in the colony. There is no peace.
@friendsofartvillain
@friendsofartvillain 22 сағат бұрын
Coloured doesn’t mean mixed race !!!
@Cper2000
@Cper2000 Күн бұрын
Low bar questions and answers.
@siphiwembiyela3886
@siphiwembiyela3886 Күн бұрын
Eff can articulate themselves better than everybody else but their policies on Marxism wokeness and open border it's a big NO for me and will never vote for them in my lifetime.
@carl4017
@carl4017 Күн бұрын
Open borders will destroy eff.
@CalvinI2twinns
@CalvinI2twinns 19 сағат бұрын
EFF doesn't want your vote,it needs your mind to reason like an intelligent person,but here you're reasoning like someone who has never seen a book before in their lifetime... Who created those borders? & why? And who sees them as artificial borders? Who utilise them without limitation? If you can answer that I would join your anti eff movement. And yet again SA calls itself little America,if not America of Africa ,USA has borders we understand its logic behind borders,because they always have a conspiracy theory that someone is out to get them,if its Not their intelligence, its presidency,or infrastructures, Monuments,or Russia terrorists or spying on them! What about SA's reasons for borders?SA Border reasons; "foreigners are stealing their jobs,wives,bringing drugs? SAns have no reason capacity,its a fact & I don't blame them for what happened to them in the past,but now you have yourselves to blame,SA is unequal society,SAns thrive on division because that's what they always knew,& were taught many years ago by Apartheid regime that still exist today. Just like killing,its a trend you kill each other as Man & woman because you don't know that you can go to the next best thing,because you're so invested to this one Person,that you would rather kill them if you can't have them no one else must have them,you know why? because SAns are afraid of change that's why ANC has always governed this country & still,you all have trust issues in general,& take it to your own relationships & households,that's worse more worse than EFF & border policy,others don't invite you to their events 16th Dec reconciliation of blood river remembering how they defeated your kind & planning to do it again,because they thrive on segregation & lies,deceiving you once again on the land question,fake unity,borders,cape Independence,investors yet there is high unemployment in SA yet we have investors who don't invest in the empowerment of the people of SA,particularly those who have been oppressed for far too long & still poor till todate,so you tell me who is an investor in SA? Race is gigantic issue in SA,but its just my opinion don't believe me...I for one hate lies,& dislike people who tells it.
@Just_Mzo
@Just_Mzo 12 сағат бұрын
How does BBC hold a discussion of South African political parties without including the official Opposition of the country which is the MK party.
@MA-go7ee
@MA-go7ee 23 сағат бұрын
Of course equality has improved - everyone now has equal status under the law
@ceciliamungofa7374
@ceciliamungofa7374 6 сағат бұрын
Ms Chirwa is on point.
@DrugHunter-fy6nf
@DrugHunter-fy6nf 22 сағат бұрын
If after 30 years of race based affirmative action which favours black people in jobs, (DEI/BEE) contracts, business opportunities and 30 years of ANC schooling, free houses to black people only, it now rests solely on being given free land to achieve economic parity? Which has been widely done across the country anyway. What did you not learn from the Zimbabwe model.
@DavidSolomon-uj4sk
@DavidSolomon-uj4sk Күн бұрын
The BBC should check our History with the British during Colonization and Union S.A. before remarking.
@peace6325
@peace6325 Күн бұрын
Absolutely. Us boertjies always stayed quiet. Now we're paying a price as white Africans because we have manners.
@RodneyErnstzen
@RodneyErnstzen 9 сағат бұрын
And how the Brits killed the Boers and raped and killed there wives and children fighting to save SAF ....
@brightonmukwindidza9627
@brightonmukwindidza9627 Күн бұрын
This is very shallow and boring.
@jannieboshoff5185
@jannieboshoff5185 23 сағат бұрын
What a load of bulshit
@bekkerbosbeer3453
@bekkerbosbeer3453 13 сағат бұрын
And where will you put all these criminals...in the jails thats full?
@SiphoMkize
@SiphoMkize Күн бұрын
Naledi Chirwa speaks eloquently about land and create job how, I'm talking about practical job
@rmanne7703
@rmanne7703 23 сағат бұрын
We have rubish and rats all over even in our towns. Smelling since 1994 .Poo all over.We evevn hide it from our visitòrs😢😢😢
@LIVE-NETWORK
@LIVE-NETWORK 19 сағат бұрын
This is World Service Broadcast, who is producing this show. Guys you failed to get The official Opposition party (uMkhonto Wesizwe Party-MKP).
@danieldare2640
@danieldare2640 Күн бұрын
I think if you're trying to compare a then and now it would seem South Africa is certainly a lot more pretentious.
@Trenchwarsoldier-x5v
@Trenchwarsoldier-x5v Күн бұрын
It’s gone backwards, every social metric proves that incorporating blacks was a dismal failure! There is not a single thing that has improved and all these 30 years has shown is that multi culturalism can never work, democracy is an absolute failure and blacks will collapse everything that they are apart of! Blacks cannot lead, they honestly believe that whites stole them dry when in actuality it was whites they found here in Europes colonial migration plans. These things cannot be resolved, they not excluded they have overstayed their visit
@MzansiSnails
@MzansiSnails 4 сағат бұрын
Extremely unbalanced debate due to the choice of speakers.
@blasioshitsirishibachi9739
@blasioshitsirishibachi9739 Күн бұрын
A hell of a moderator!
@KaiThursday
@KaiThursday 22 сағат бұрын
Panel needs Sizwe Mpofu Walsh🙏🏾
@courage396
@courage396 21 сағат бұрын
How are you going to ensure black economic liberation? PA: By recognizing the khoi san and colored as black🤣
@ngalahansel6066
@ngalahansel6066 3 сағат бұрын
I really laughed at such an empty answer. They just get mad and say things to remind everyone of their Khoi-ness but have no solution to problems😂
@B3748Autorun
@B3748Autorun Күн бұрын
6:29 idk wat this guy is talkiing abt ..u black as ace of spades bruh😂 stop confusing urself with definitions we as blacks ddnt wryt
@carl4017
@carl4017 Күн бұрын
No matter how black you look. If your ID says coloured, you are not treated as african. He is asking for coloured to be recognized as african in particular.
@MandisiMrwebi
@MandisiMrwebi 6 сағат бұрын
BCC has arrived in South Africa to run a colonial audit. Its aim was to determine to what extent does the anti-covert colonial campaign impacts current political ideologies. Everyone in your panel told your viewers that Political Parties in South Africa are not part of the Anti-Covert Colonisation Campaign. This means the campaign has a long way ahead of it. We do recognise that Death Penalty was used as decoy. However, we are aware that you have two campaigns- the Composition and Independence of Judicial Service Commission (JSC) and Death Penalty. Yet elected representatives were just oblivious to that. BBC yes political parties in SA are not yet converse about anti covert colonisation. They are still hypnotised by the bubble walls of apartheid, land question and struggle transition to economic freedom- But the bubble will slowly corrode and fall like the Berlin Wall- When that time arrive they will have to define their political positions as either Defenders or Proponents of Anti-Covert Colonisation Campaign. That time is soon.
@dera_ng
@dera_ng Күн бұрын
Lol, yeah. And humpty dumpty sat on a bee 😅
@NoBSMase
@NoBSMase Күн бұрын
What a question asked in Cape Town South Africa
@DavidSolomon-uj4sk
@DavidSolomon-uj4sk Күн бұрын
Bias, Tired,Lazy,Unresearched,SAD.
@KatarinaRust
@KatarinaRust Күн бұрын
God not alloud that....evil people not alloud in SA....AMEN JESUS👏👏👏👏
@bekkerbosbeer3453
@bekkerbosbeer3453 13 сағат бұрын
Im in tourism and the eff has no idea what they are talking about as always
@warren1614
@warren1614 Сағат бұрын
Tribes fought tribes, countries fought countries if you lost the war you lost your land. Land is not going to solve the problem we have in this country. Jobs, investment and education is what is going to change equality. If you have a job, contributing to the economy and making an income you then can save to buy your land wherever you want in RSA. Whites, blacks, coloured, Indians, bushman or whatever race you are you are South African we need to work together leave the past look to the future. We need work, I'm white I can't find work I can't survive I can't contribute to the economy or to RSA, my abilities are ignored because of my colour. We must get rid of this colour of your skin entitles or means you are this or that way inclined. We must be united as one. Make our own language with a mix of our 11 language we need to get rid of this race issue
@handyvickers
@handyvickers Күн бұрын
Each panellist just sprouted the party line... No progress obtained by this get together!
@mdsayad2062
@mdsayad2062 Сағат бұрын
What does democracy means?
@imranseedat1995
@imranseedat1995 Күн бұрын
To your question ... simple NO !!! .. .
@sds2954
@sds2954 16 минут бұрын
What a disappointing engagement. From the questions to, the answers were weak. A reflection on thr program, the moderator and the weak panel as a collective. Naledi started off well but she (true to thr EFF playbook) is stuck on one policy. What the PA panelist was doing there is beyond me. He too came with only one rehearsed message and stuck to it (and i'm saying this as a coloured person). The DA and ANC were also just mediocre. Yes, the effect of Apartheid cannot be denied on the SA landscape and economy. And yes, thr majority of wealth / economy still sits in white hands BUT the fact of the matter is that the ANC in 30years of leadership has done very little to transform the economy and the lives of People of Colour in this country. I am hopeful that with the GNU, we can finally start moving away from race politics and focus on bettering the lives of all South Africans, regardless of skin colour. But also understanding where the greatest need lies
@TheGadero
@TheGadero Күн бұрын
BBC rankings must be really low to come here and without their merit less "superhero" Sackhur.
@cally2011
@cally2011 Күн бұрын
Strikes me that everyone starts with....'we cant talk about x if we dont talk about my issue'. Always knew eff were head cases but this is the first time someone from the eff said exp everything. Malema was at paines to say that zulu land will be left alone... wild
@trevorham2331
@trevorham2331 18 сағат бұрын
All that happened sa wend backwards to much corruption
@markmcculloch2570
@markmcculloch2570 16 сағат бұрын
First question from eff. Do it yourself
@kaizersuze9000
@kaizersuze9000 Күн бұрын
Chirwa ZIM girl go home please
@nchingazimba6110
@nchingazimba6110 Күн бұрын
Lol
@valentineisraelshabangu4069
@valentineisraelshabangu4069 23 сағат бұрын
You see thus your problem she isn’t Zimbabwean
@godfreysampson6432
@godfreysampson6432 22 сағат бұрын
Chirwa is Malawiam surname
@gregoryHannibal1
@gregoryHannibal1 17 сағат бұрын
The PA shame 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Christian-b4b
@Christian-b4b 11 сағат бұрын
Madiba gost pls and harry pls😊
@edwinrandall5062
@edwinrandall5062 23 сағат бұрын
I started listening with interest but alas I left the discussion after hearing how this discourse is starting wayward insensible and tribalistic for setting hoprful furthering
@rmanne7703
@rmanne7703 Күн бұрын
Not under Rams n ANC.With its one foot forward n two backward.
@lwazisiyaka2287
@lwazisiyaka2287 Күн бұрын
This is a useless discussion or podcast, why not invite the main opposition in Parliament which is the MK party?
@senior_lamola
@senior_lamola 20 сағат бұрын
EFF ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
@NicholasShabangu
@NicholasShabangu Күн бұрын
Train people first then give them land to be used profitable for the people of the country.the word land sound good to your mouth but it work hand and gloves with responsibilities.let us come together to have a wayforward to the issue of the land.
@patrickrichards6000
@patrickrichards6000 Күн бұрын
Koi san is nog altyd
@Christian-b4b
@Christian-b4b 11 сағат бұрын
❤😂🎉JOOOONNNNEEEEYYYY
@Captian-c2t
@Captian-c2t Күн бұрын
Reverse Aparthied 30 years into it ... time severed I think.. if payback was the objective
@KaiThursday
@KaiThursday 22 сағат бұрын
‘We’d be very happy to do that “🤑🤑🤑
@nomadicleopard
@nomadicleopard Күн бұрын
Naledi is a Zimbabwean what is she doing there.
@senior_lamola
@senior_lamola 19 сағат бұрын
Zimbabwean ke mmago
@Christian-b4b
@Christian-b4b 11 сағат бұрын
Aaaaaaahhh klint wihite❤😂🎉
@gerriedoll154
@gerriedoll154 Күн бұрын
Can you tel me , what Land is not yours ?? What wil you di with land with out money to be a farmer ?? Who will give you wire, diesel, cattle , sheep, seeds, trekkers all these things?? Whycfont you focus on jobs or shops , fabrics , clean water and ELECTRICITY???
@siohonelson9078
@siohonelson9078 16 сағат бұрын
You crazy We will establish farming practices in South Africa
@DavidSolomon-uj4sk
@DavidSolomon-uj4sk Күн бұрын
PA most positive and puts action,God,TRUTH, and are forward looking.All others speak the same politician talk,proved to be a waste and boring after 30 yrs.
@lindokuhlematsupa3344
@lindokuhlematsupa3344 15 сағат бұрын
Who ever this Patriotic Alliance guy is very dillusional
@pietcordier5060
@pietcordier5060 21 сағат бұрын
Absolute crap
@milkyevanfok2814
@milkyevanfok2814 Күн бұрын
U can't undo lazy
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