Has Klepper Ever Changed a Trump Supporter's Mind? - After The Cut | The Daily Show

Is it possible to change a Trump supporter's mind? Jordan Klepper got close. #AfterTheCut #JordanKlepper #DailyShow
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[@SarahLevan-b7q]

Love my fellow Michigander.. I changed my mind about Trump. All because of you Klepper.

[@plaidpanda]

Really? Tell us more!

[@mouaragon2774]

That's an interesting story. I'd like to hear.

[@MajorHenryL.]

Funny…i changed my mind the other way😅😅

[@plaidpanda]

@@MajorHenryL. Not so much funny as sad and pathetic.

[@wylelias]

Oh yeah two Michiganders on TDS?! Midwest Love

[@adeltawfeek4847]

My best friend was a Q follower. I visited him after i got vaccinated.he ask me to grab a beer from the fridge. I told him i can't cz i will stick to the fridge as a magnet. He laughed than stoped to realize how rediculus the idea was. That open a conversation start 2020, now he is someway normal😂

[@hyzercreek]

There are no Q followers, you must be special ed

[@nonamelegend_vapor]

This is the way.

[@RonLarhz]

You can proudly say achievement unlocked. You achieved the impossible.

[@catseye1009]

Yeah…I wished that worked with the people I’ve spoken with. That sort of statement just leads to another rabbit hole.

[@obikiller1]

​@@nonamelegend_vaporthis is a miracle lol

[@laalaa99stl]

"It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.” -- Mark Twain

[@erisdiscordia5429]

You sound pretty certain of that.

[@rvdb7363]

There is no evidence that Mark Twain ever said that. Something he did say is: "The glory which is built upon a lie soon becomes a most unpleasant incumbrance. ... How easy it is to make people believe a lie, and how hard it is to undo that work again!" - Autobiographical dictation, 2 December 1906.

[@istdochallesegal3427]

​@@rvdb7363 So you've confirmed the essence of the OP's quote...

[@Dulcilady]

@@rvdb7363Samuel Clemens wrote a lot of humorous and clever sayings and he probably said a lot more that was never in writing. So who is to say he didn’t say it??? If you take Mark Twain out of the mix, it’s still clever, humorous and …TRUE.

[@GB-TX]

Nailed it.

[@mrmr446]

It's not easy to leave a cult and admit that you've been hoodwinked.

[@crackills1]

When did you stop becoming a Democrat too?

[@92jwiener]

Funny enough this really can be said about either political side. I'm of the mindset that there really is some kind of balance between what we're being told is true, and what we're being told is not true. I happen to think the Right is tipped further in the "not true" direction but I'm sure some claims are legitimate.

[@mrmr446]

@@92jwiener The Orange One talking about the swamp resonated because the public legitimately sees corruption that has been legalised, what he did with that gave away the lie.

[@ScytheNoire]

@@92jwiener Don't both sides this. One side is pushing for a fascist authoritarian regime, the other is pushing for everyone's vote to count and to keep their rights. You can't compare these two sides.

[@zogar8526]

@92jwiener while I can't say I've heard every last thing the right believes and claims, of those I've heard, not a one has any basis in reality at all. Saying both sides do it is meaningless. Yes, democrats are far from perfect. Not all are completely honest, and some things are taken too far, or handled poorly. Like climate change. It is often put in a way to suggest it is us the individual who needs to make the most change to help this, which just isn't true. If corporations don't change it doesn't matter. Or sometimes those on the left will cite some of the more extreme predictions of what could happen, not including the context that in the studies these things are absolute worst case senerios, that will only happen if nothing at all changes and keeps getting worse at a specific level. The studies will say "if we keep increase emissions at x level, y degrees increase, and z effects. And if we increase at 2x we will see 2y degrees increase, and 2z effects." And it can be reported as the 2x problem being what will happen, when that isn't exactly the case. But this kind of thing is nothing in comparison to the right. Complete climate change denial. Election conspiracies and denial. Tricked down economics, lies about the economy in general. All the q stuff. Jewish space lasers, and the list goes on. It isn't that the right is a bit more on the untruthful side. They lie about anything and everything non stop. While the left sometimes leaves out a bit of context. It isn't comparable at all.

[@JackPoppy]

"You do not speak for me." - Pitchfork man, in a rare moment of clarity.

[@Darroc]

Makes you wish they'd track down Pitchfork man and compare/contrast where he is now on things.

[@Echo81Rumple83]

What was HIS deal? If he's that levelheaded, why was he at that "rally-turned-insurrection" with a pitchfork in the first place?

[@tasteslikewall]

​@@Echo81Rumple83 you know, some of the most level-headed and approachable people have to let loose sometimes too. It's hard to keep a level-head daily.

[@mrvlsmrv]

Actually I've worked with some very smart people who are pretty loyal Trump supporters. They might have the red hat. But they don't wear it much. And they don't go to his sheep gatherings either. The thing they have in common is they work hard and don't have time left to check the facts. Theyhear Trump's claims that they want to be true. And get convinced by the repetition. Just as Joseph Goebbels predicted.

[@xxxaragon]

I guess it kinda makes sense. Like, supposedly a lot of Trump's supporters feel like their voices aren't/weren't getting heard. So someone they +didn't+ choose speaking for them is probably an obvious red flag.

[@mckohtz]

According to Steven Hassan a psychologist, cult expert and author of many books about cults including "The Cult of Trump". His advice to get someone out of a cult is that you have to be inquisitive of the group by asking questions like "what drew you to the group in the first place?" and "Are you still/have you ever gotten any gains by being part of the group?" Helps them have some self reflection on their interaction with the group. Also always be loving and kind, be a soft place to land when they leave the group.

[@casper191985]

Do you have toes?

[@bast713]

Added to my reading list. Thank you

[@mckohtz]

@@casper191985FYI... inquisitive = curious or inquiring. "he was very chatty and inquisitive about everything" You're welcome!

[@teedee643]

Yes, but when you are dealing with ppl who are following someone who changes the narratives so that they fit each lie, them being right as opposed to them processing concrete evidence blaring in their faces. It’s like talking to a psychopath and trying to get them to make sense of something.

[@casper191985]

@@mckohtz not sure what that had to do with you having toes but alright lol

[@daviddyer8807]

I am continually amazed at how intelligent and thoughtful Klepper is.

[@amberturdcoloringbook1733]

Some Trump supporters are smart too, I met one who knew multiplication.

[@SL-zz7mg]

@@amberturdcoloringbook1733 Many of them are actually well educated. Maybe if you quit categorizing and belittling them, you would see more of what you all have in common.

[@amberturdcoloringbook1733]

@@SL-zz7mg Trump bullies people with disabilities and his supporters laugh. How come you are not telling Trump supporters to stop?

[@84traveler]

​@SL-zz7mg Being well educated doesn't necessarily mean people are intelligent, and in Trump supporters case they seem to have almost zero critical thinking skills and very weak logical skills. They can also simply just abandon logic and reason etc. when facts are in conflict with their beliefs because they have tendency for comfort over the truth. Cognitive dissonance will cause them huge, existential anxiety when faced with contradictory information to their beliefs. They will hence almost never change their minds or are even slightly open to listening opposing views. Overall it is a combination of weak mind, lack of critical thinking and poor logical skills. I'm not belittling them, but also I could never get along with people like this, and I believe many feel the same way.

[@commandercaptain4664]

@amberturdcoloringbook1733 Covfefe x Ttump = United Shaysh

[@safetinspector2]

I was a religious right-winger, and somewhat misogynistic, from my teens into my mid-twenties and then changed. For me it was a job that involved a lot of driving, and I started listening to NPR. No podcasts, no Fox news, just boredom with talk radio. I have a feeling that if I was that young man nowadays the echo chambers would have been cozy and warm and I'd never have left the darkness. What can anyone do, now? I haven't spoken to my mom or sister in over a year because of their MAGA loyalties and I don't really know what to do next.

[@MajorHenryL.]

Interesting. Same happened to me. My college years I was fairly liberal, racist, pro-palestine, pro- choice. Then got more right wing during graduate school after I saw the biases and hypocrisy of the political science and history departments. I completely changed there after…

[@MajorHenryL.]

@@ascent8487 I voted for Hillary in 2016 and backed McCain in 2000 (he was very moderate). In local elections i voted dem right down the line. I changed in the early 2000s.

[@ascent8487]

@@MajorHenryL. I don’t believe you. I’ve been through college. We talked about Palestine exactly NO TIMES. Precisely zero. I took a few women’s studies courses, all elective. Elective, means not required. We discussed abortion during one section in one class out of four. You’re just referencing nonsense you’ve been told is going on. It’s pretty obvious. Also, when were you supposedly liberal because of evil education? Now? Because the Palestinian support shown by SOME students is quite current.

[@rridderbusch518]

@@MajorHenryL. What? You changed your views because you had cr@ppy teachers? That makes no sense. Major mistake.

[@MajorHenryL.]

@@ascent8487 What university did you attend?? My under grad was history and political science and my Masters was in Military History. I attended a class on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict that was taught by an anti-Zionist Jewish professor. I also took a class on Middle East policy taught by an anti-Israeli Lebanese national.

[@ChrisJones-gx7fc]

Don't tell them "here's why you're wrong." Ask them "why are you right?" Have them come to their own realization.

[@SL-zz7mg]

Excellent advice for any disagreement

[@ToyKeeper]

Putting uncertainty onto the table is a fantastic technique, because it attacks the true root of the problem -- faith. If you can get someone to doubt, you can get them to learn.

[@silvsilvsilv]

Except that's exactly what Klepper does in his segments, and he's just told us that actually never works...

[@RaySchrantz]

Have you been watching him? That's all he does, they defy all logic, even their own😂

[@KaritKtana]

But when I try, my brother spews nonsense about the government and big pharma killing hundreds of thousands of healthy young people with vaccines and why masks spread disease, so what should I do?

[@sussekind9717]

Swinging pitchfork guy looking over, rolling his eyes and saying, "Can you f'ing believe this guy?" Love it, love every bit of it.

[@wendigo53]

Yes. But I did like that pitchfork guy was willing to discuss and engage. Need more of that. (But less pitchforks.)

[@huckfinn3987]

I actually thought it was Cursing Guy who glanced at Trepper and rolled his eyes - even nuttier! But yeah, a moment to replay...

[@jebes909090]

@@wendigo53 you know who doesnt like to engage? woke liberals. they love attacking people physically, screaming at them if they try to have a discussion. destroying property. blocking roads. surrounding cars. intimidating people. blocking people from voting. canceling people. seizing bank accounts and property of those they dont agree with. starting wars. letting illegal immigrant into countries. its almost like they do all the things that they like to accuse the other side of doing. but ya, trumps the bad guy. as you blindly walk into war with russia right now. lol.

[@gyrene_asea4133]

@@wendigo53Yes. It is always better when people are less stabby.

[@Needabreak365]

My dad’s wife and my neighbor were talking and I realized they were talking about cat boxes in schools. My dad’s wife was a teacher and her daughter is one. My neighbor doesn’t have kids. I cut in and said that had been debunked. Both argued with me. Both and some unnamed person who TOLD them. When I asked who, they couldn’t name them and when I asked where neither were sure. I then asked how big are the cat boxes, who buys and cleans the litter and why haven’t there been pics of kids throwing litter down hallways. Both turned and walked away from me. My dad’s wife is a kook who buys stuff off Facebook constantly and is shocked every time it’s a scam. But my neighbor shocked me.

[@atleiker]

Hadn’t heard of this one. Had to look it up. It’s so ridiculous that I don’t understand how anyone could take it at face value.

[@Needabreak365]

@@atleiker right? Especially a former teacher who’s daughter is currently a teacher. I wish my brain would melt sometimes so it wasn’t so painful.

[@paulinelarson465]

Did you hear about the guy who, out of the blue, started the idea that "Birds Aren't Real" ? He convinced a lot of "internet people" that ​birds were spy drones, collecting data on us by watching from power lines. Proof ? If YOU touched a powerline you would die ! ! !@atleiker

[@theBear89451]

This is just the flip side of those that believe gender is a social construct.

[@wendigo53]

MAGA people don't like Earth 1 facts. Gotta keep trying, keep it up.

[@phredshunkie3487]

Trump actually changed my mind about the Republican Party. I used to only vote Republican until he was nominated.

[@danstrayer111]

that party barely exists as we knew it

[@Kjleed13]

To me. Oftentimes you can’t change someone’s mind but you can open them up to new ideas.

[@deanronson6331]

Doesn't work with 99% of rank and file trumpoids. For them, new ideas contradicting their set-in-stone opinions are fake, i.e. counterfeit facts and arguments concocted by liberals to damage their cult leader and swerve them from their righteous path. It's an unfortunate and dangerous psychological defense mechanism trait of a huge segment of humanity, and it may lead to the demise of civilization.

[@elisam.r.9960]

And online, if you engage carefully, you can feed useful information to virtual passers-by.

[@zoranblackie5921]

@@elisam.r.9960 Exactly, but without belittling, patronising or insulting them either

[@Antifadiva]

This is why activating passive allies is much more productive than exhausting yourself trying to convince an active opponent.

[@JVLeroy223]

​@elisam.r.9960 But sometimes what you say can get removed, creating more problems than it intends to solve surrounding engaging and insightful discourse, limiting the commenter's perceived sincerity.

[@brandonbyers335]

"you're applauding an insurrectionist" - Well played

[@jackfoxx6351]

Former. A former insurrectionist.

[@robsonclark9678]

Someone who was rehabilitated!

[@Echo81Rumple83]

That's like saying "you're applauding an alcoholic," even though they've been sober and haven't relapsed in a long while.

[@GTA5Player1]

He's as quick as always

[@Antifadiva]

This is why activating passive allies is much more productive than exhausting yourself trying to convince an active opponent.

[@rusticitas]

Mr. Klepper has gained some wisdom about being human, I think. ♥️

[@zippyustar6350]

❤

[@na3rial]

I think he’s always known. He just has a character he plays for the show.

[@weirdo24-7]

I'm related to a Trump supporter. He said he was Republican and I said "So am I but I support the parties ideas since before Trump. Were you a Republican before Trump? " He said "No" and went silent and looked down. So I continued "Would you be a Republican if there was no Trump? I ask because you might be following a cult leader or you might only be interested in the man and his followers, and not the politics" He stayed quiet and never said a word for awhile until I changed the subject.

[@chrichri6793]

A vote for Joe Biden is a vote for dead babies in Ukraine and Gaza, open borders, and high inflation caused by his printing trillions of dollars. Think whatever you want but the average American could afford groceries under Trump and he didn't start any wars. But its me who's in the cult, right?????

[@OublietteTight]

Sounds like you were/are GOP? Verses new populist republican? The GOP is not so ole lately. Wasn't President Lincoln the first Republican? Not the same party now? Do populist Republicans deserve to use the term GOP? 😮

[@weirdo24-7]

@@OublietteTight You sound very young because of the question if I was/were GOP or new populist Republican? Honestly, these 2 seem more based on religion and anti everything Democrat. I am a different type of Republican who is solely for the economy and immigration reform. Lincoln was the first Republican elected to president. Definitely not the same party since the civil rights era/ The great switch. "Do populist Republicans deserve to use the term GOP?" Why would I care, just make a point? 🤔 Democrats and Republicans have the lowest quality of candidates I've ever seen. I'm in shock that anyone could take either side without talking about the extremists on both sides.

[@ryp2473]

Jordan, you’ll probably never read this but just in case … As a fellow West-Michigander, I’d just like to say thank you for what you do. Sincerely. Your willingness to engage with the public is rare and must take a ton of patience. Respect, sir. If you’re ever in the greater Grand Rapids area, I’d be honored to buy you a beer & have a chat.

[@verlongates2279]

It's not our job to 'change their mind' or to 'fix them.' It's our job to calmly, respectfully, and reasonably defend reality and truth. It's our job to respect their right to believe what they believe, but to hold them somewhat accountable for WHY they think it. It's what I so deeply respect Jordan Klepper for. He seldom (if ever) resorts to disrespect when dealing with people, even when they cross the line and get disrespectful toward HIM. Bill Maher (among others) could learn a lot from Jordan.

[@markstevenson6635]

It's our job to VOTE to keep them out of office.

[@verlongates2279]

ABSOLUTELY true. In a Democracy, 'we the people' might not get the political leaders we WANT, but we're absolutely guaranteed to get the political leaders we DESERVE. Whatever happens while 'we the people' still have the right to vote is the responsibility and the fault of 'we the people.' @@markstevenson6635

[@tarrynlea]

Out of all of late-night, Klepper feels to me like Stewart's rightful heir. Not specifically for TDS (though that would be nice), but just as a person and how his presence in the political-comedy scene could develop in the future.

[@OublietteTight]

Have we totally forgotten it is a privilege to have a vote?

[@erinmac4750]

I truly love the heart that Jordan brings to his work. Please give us more! Behind the desk or in the field, America needs Jordan Klepper right now! 💜✊

[@susanrosegale6646]

Spot on - certainty "Doubt is not a pleasant condition, but certainty is absurd. Premature certainty is the enemy of the truth."

[@phillipanthonygornail6508]

❤ Jordan K should get an Emmy just for this clip alone.

[@amberturdcoloringbook1733]

The Nobel Price 🏆

[@BALD_PAB]

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead." - Thomas Paine

[@r.c.auclair2042]

Can't change a mind that isn't there.

[@pjposton5001]

@@r.c.auclair2042 Well said. Very well said indeed.

[@r.c.auclair2042]

@@pjposton5001, thank you.

[@DavidBennell]

"To fool someone you have to overcome their intellect, to convince someone they have been fooled, you have to overcome their pride" - I like that one

[@RoShnog]

Some/tons of them have spent so much on swag, donations, and/or stockpiled supplies and want to justify that. It's hard for most to admit a big wasted investment of time/money, especially if it's one that has become their identity. It also gets reinforced constantly by the propaganda that comes at them from many sources at all times of day. Even when I've had breakthrough conversations with them, the spark of reason and seeds of doubt get flooded out by the inundation of lies in their comfort zone. Maybe the key with that lady was that she was away from the thought programming and behavior conditioning long enough to break the habit and think for herself.

[@mandcbruce]

My husband prosecuted a religious ponzi organization. Rather than show gratitude for justice and repayment, the victims were angry their cult leaders were punished.

[@sammiknapp8456]

Klepper has such poise and patience and an innate sense of humor about the ridiculousness of the world we are in right now. Always a joy to see him.

[@sharvo6]

And his wit LIGHTENING QUICK. I would love to know if they do any workshopping or rehearsal of his Joe public stuff because his gotchas and asides are brilliant.

[@TZ19999]

I just wonder how this ever ends. Some people just seem so far gone I just don't know what there is to do about it. It's depressing seeing how many people have lost their mind to that cult.

[@RD-dn4vs]

Especially families 😔

[@leseifer1]

Right. I feel like cults before social media were probably easier to get someone out of because they thrived on isolation. But once they were exposed the light of day, it was probably pretty hard to reconcile everything. Nowadays, with 24 hour OAN and Fox News and Facebook feeds, It’s just spread like wildfire and it’s everywhere. I feel like that almost serves to confirm that what they believe is the truth because they see so many others out in the open buying into the same narrative.

[@leadpaintchips9461]

How it ends is realizing that they're people first. Not liberal/conservative, not right/left, not pro/anti, etc. Those are all secondary. They are a person and treating them as a person is the start. Empathy for someone else, even if they're not showing that to you. Too many people forget that. That's a *person* , not some physical embodiment of stupidity or hate. That person got there following a path, they didn't just spring into existence with those beliefs.

[@MrBrock314]

@@leadpaintchips9461 That's one psychological theory of being.

[@samc9133]

​@@leadpaintchips9461 I mean, many of these people think I don't or shouldn't exist, think I shouldn't marry my chosen partner, think I "exist outside of God's creation" (someone actually said that to me), so yeah, to me they are indeed an embodiment of hate, because their hatred is targeted specifically unto people like myself. Respect to y'all that try to approach them to work with them, but I can't.

[@tuvantrader]

“What men really want is not knowledge but certainty.” - Bertrand Russell Absolutely agree with Jordan on this point. As a species, we’ve lived for centuries with certainty in the form of unshakable faith, ironclad nationalism, and/or centuries-held beliefs about the absolute nature of our race or ethnicity. The last hundred years or so have seen the undoing of all of these things by which we have structured society around the world. If we can come to terms with the uncertainty that is inherent in our existence as a species, we may just loosen our grip on the stories that have shaped us until now and can perhaps begin to work towards a new, more inclusive story for all of us. 🙏

[@kitti9969]

This is true. We all need this perspective.

[@OublietteTight]

Thumbs up. The U stands for United. 😊

[@asdfasdfasdfasdeff]

I lived in a neighborhood where I found out a lot about them during the election years. None the wiser (well, I had suspicions) until the flags / banners starting coming out. Due to my looks (white, tattoos) lots of them would assume I was "on their side" as I was washing my car and they would come talk to me. I knew at that moment I had an opportunity to be curious about their beliefs and concede to a few things so that we could open up with each other and talk. One of the biggest things I could say was "I hate biden, but i'm voting for him". that was always a fun way to spark a discussion, lol. We've since moved away and now I'm looking forward to these sort of interactions come election time this year.

[@robinhood20253]

I changed my mind about Trump through the pandemic then Jan 6.

[@jarenfromvenus]

Yay!! ♥️

[@spewter]

@@jarenfromvenusWait! He didn’t say which way he changed his mind! 😂

[@beebuzz959]

@@spewter 😅

[@redrick8900]

@@spewter Cults don't draw in new members in their dying days.

[@jarenfromvenus]

@@spewter This is true!!! 😂

[@toddspango]

That's right, although I wouldn't have phrased it the way you did: "You have to be a loser." I think it's much better to say that you have to approach these conversations with a sense of vulnerability, as in "maybe I'm wrong, but what about this?" We have to get over the idea that being wrong is some kind of moral failing. People are wrong a lot.

[@casper191985]

Not me. I’m never wrong!!

[@lactoseintolerantgaming2711]

I agree about being vulnerable, but that works when you can get to the nuance of a political topic. Like with someone complaining about COVID vaccine, there can be a lot of nuance about mandates, efficacy, etc. You can drill down and talk about what specifically they didn't like and maybe find some common ground of uncertainty. But when a family member declares the election was rigged, I find it hard to find the nuance.

[@toddspango]

Your example of the rigged election is the perfect opportunity for what I'm talking about. So, if Cuz comes to you and says the election was stolen, you can ask, OK, let's go down the rabbit hole. Show me your evidence?" Then whatever you're shown, you can go and find the refuting evidence without judgment. "Oh, that thing Rudy Giulliani accused those vote counters of? Well, let's go look at the court case about that."

[@xxxaragon]

Of course. Also, just imagine it being the other way around. If someone approached us, trying to convince us of something, what kind of approach would likely be the most successful? probably not the one in which the other person acts like she/he knows the absolute truth and is basically teaching us dumb soul the error of our ways.

[@OublietteTight]

​@@lactoseintolerantgaming2711 In coming joke to lighten the mood... or tease then that they are just afraid of needles? Challenge their pride and image about the process instead? At least it might change the subject?

[@oapster7963]

The only thing you can do wrong in a cult, is to leave the cult. Everything thing else is acceptable. It's F-ing wild to experience on a massive scale!

[@brothermanbill]

Says the daily show fan

[@carn9507]

@@brothermanbillyou think this tv show is a cult, but what? Constantly excusing Trump's repeatedly un-American behavior isn't?

[@brothermanbill]

⁠ Jordan himself said in the video it’s hard to make someone change their minds. So it’s funny that Daily show fans think their minds are different then anyone else’s when they’re the ones subjected to more hard edits and manipulating editing then most media out there.

[@pjposton5001]

@@brothermanbill Look in a mirror Sport. YOU'RE the cultboy here. Is your "billionaire hero" still begging you for money? He is me! I wouldn't give him the sweat off my.... foot, but I get solicited daily by him or his crime family for bail money. Thought he was too rich to ever need your money. You should keep sending him YOUR money, you don't need it. ha ha ha

[@brothermanbill]

@@pjposton5001 I’m not voting for trump as of right now but nice try. Edit: thanks for demonstrating the dogmatic assumptions your crowd generally does

[@geoffreydevereaux3272]

I’m a DFV Specialist and a part of my work is to do 1on1 intervention work with men who use violence as a part of a larger coordinated ecological approach. A notoriously difficult group to shift. And what fascinated me about this clip is how this is actually one of the best ways to approach my work as well. These men have their armour up. Often as a defence mechanism for their own trauma and insecurities. The trick isn’t to challenge that, you’ll just convince them they need that armour more because they’re under attack. The trick is really to create room for uncertainty, then support them as they explore that and help them to challenge their own beliefs.

[@laalaa99stl]

"If you do not change direction, you may end up where you are heading." - Lao Tzu

[@gregwatkins2525]

He was a smart dude

[@oldrrocr]

🤣🤣🤣

[@tuvantrader]

“No matter where you go, there you are.” - Buckaroo Bonzai 😉

[@jesipohl6717]

I've spoken with 100,000 people as an adult educator, it get's easier the more you try and the more you can get someone out of their comfort zone.

[@larseriksson42]

This is one of the greatest videos I've ever seen, conveying what a practical social skill set needs to look like, for a higher chance to allow change to happen

[@BryanLee]

Baby steps, man swinging a pitchfork. Baby steps. You're on your way back to us, we're all counting on you.

[@freakstritch]

klepper nails it with the proper way to engage people with opposing views. bring uncertainty and the possibility of your own mind being changed. bravo!

[@USEismydream]

Theoretically speaking, yeah, I mean in realty we know that the cult won't change our opinions. That's basically no real surprise when they don't belive in facts and just about their own feelings and things they hear from Trump.

[@fourier27]

This has always been the mantra on Stephen Fry, a great advocate for such an approach. It’s such a stark contrast to the absolutism at display from a lot of people claiming to be experts in fields that are inherently too complex for any objective certainty.

[@freakstritch]

@@fourier27Excellent - great guy!

[@stephenphillips6245]

All this legwork, Klepper has done, has paid off with context and often hilariousness. Getting out of the studio and talking with people, of all walks of life, has made Klepper wise.

[@erinmac4750]

Although I think he brought a level of insight and self-awareness to the his work from the start. 🍀✌️😎

[@joshuaburger4983]

Please just give Klepper the show. He has the care and empathy needed that makes the Daily Show work.

[@dandragon01]

I desperately want to change the mind of my parents, who got turned into such antivaxxers that for the past 3 when going for my physical, they told me that I didn’t need “any more shots.” So it’s hard for me to be calm when I fear for my safety like that.

[@theBear89451]

Most antivaxxers were Democrats before 2021.

[@babybaklavagus]

Caveat that I know next to nothing about your situation, but my two cents: Not sure how old you are, but stand your ground as best you can. Look into what your rights are if you are a minor. I think there comes a point when you can make these choices for yourself regardless of your parents. And in general, if your parents can stand their ground on something illogical, then you can stand your ground on something logical. Maybe point out to them that you're not forcing them to get vaccinated, so they shouldn't prevent you from getting yourself vaccinated. If you can't change their minds, try not to let them change yours, no matter how hard they make things for you-safety first, though, so if you need to make temporary concessions to that end, that's not the same thing as giving in. I'm sorry you're in a situation where you have to fear for your safety and I wish you the best.

[@thetasworld]

Losing face seems to be very difficult in this day and age. We all make mistakes. Voting for a dictator is not the answer to the issues, we as a civilization, are facing.

[@MrBrock314]

Give the people a better option then. I don't live in the US and I wouldn't vote for Trump if I did but the system is broken and he's a symptom, not the disease.

[@thetasworld]

@@MrBrock314 Couldn't agree more. I am not advocating voting for Biden. US desperately needs a third political party. But tbh my comment is not referring only to US.

[@meggriffith4412]

Jordan Klepper is the best at political satire and comedy while maintaining an air of civility and respect for everyone. A gentleman and a fellow redhead! ❤

[@na3rial]

Aight I feel you but Jon is back in town

[@trippwilson810]

So….jail is the answer. We’re officially in the upside down.

[@mammawlee]

Jail or 72 hour mental health lock-in

[@droppingplates87]

Jail probably was a catalyst but not the answer. She likely experienced something that made her realize she was being used and duped. Problem is what that is for one person isn’t the same for others.

[@ainumahtar]

@@droppingplates87 It would be great if all of these people "doing their own research" actually did any serious looking into things beyond just checking if a headline exists after an Alex Jones or Joe Rogan rants about something again, if they even do that to begin with and not call listening to Fox or right wing radio "doing the research".

[@5hirtandtieler]

I promise you this is nothing new. I’m certain there was some shmo, over 1000 years ago who was like “T’ wast not until i hath spent some timeth in the pillory yond i learn'd the errs of mine own ways”

[@ek6321]

​@@5hirtandtielerFo' sho'. Timeth in the pillory can give one the necessary pause for reflection and self-examination.

[@Pyranders]

Admitting you were wrong about something, especially something that important to your identity, is painful, and it takes a lot for someone to be willing to inflict pain on themselves.

[@Songshare]

😂🤣 There are people who have escaped the Trump cult without going to jail, but they came to it on their own. At the very least, you must listen to them with respect and love.

[@Ghost-Mama]

And Truth. You can’t sugar coat it. Otherwise they think you’re a fraud. But… they are sooooooooooo used to being lied to, that they are immediately shocked by the Truth. That’s the power of Jesus. Jesus Christ shocks them alive with the Truth. ALWAYS be honest with them. They are programmed to know the truth when they hear it. They lose their devil’s when you speak 🗣 the TRUTH. Always.

[@mogznwaz]

@@Ghost-MamaAre YOU as open the other way around ? Or do you consider yourself the arbiter and fount of all truth? 🙏😇 I see this guy is just as certain that HE is right as they are. He’s a hypocrite.

[@Ghost-Mama]

@@mogznwaz a hypocrite would do the opposite of what they say that they do, and I really don’t see Jordan Klepper as a trump fan or a maga sympathizer. I don’t think he’s a fraud. And yes, I believe that whether you are religious and use the word “Jesus”… or Righteous and use the word “truth” or Spiritual and use the word “energy” it’s considered 3 different languages that all have the same meaning. HONESTY. I am an Honest person and I tell nothing but the Truth because I believe in Honesty. Honesty is being open and forthcoming with the person/people that you are interacting with. Why? Because I was lied to my entire life and I will not accept the lies anymore. I don’t have to, and I won’t. Which is how I recognize Donald trump as the AntiChrist. He tells nothing but lies because he’s pathologically a Sociopath with negative energy and 👺 Evil within him. We must purge 🤮 that AntiChrist.

[@lfleia]

For some of my family members that have fallen to it, I just tell them that I don't oppose all Republican ideas, and I don't love all Democrat ones, but I deeply believe that Trump specifically does not actually share their personal and/or spiritual values that they hold and shows that he does not share their values and faith even now, not just in the past. Hasn't fully changed anyone's minds, but has made a person or two think, and not just be on the offensive.

[@dosadoodle]

My dad got there. We had several conversations during 2020. At one point I warned that I didn't think Trump was going to concede if he lost. I think J6 opened my dad's eyes: there's too much crazy with Trump. That said, he's still a Republican and voting for other Republicans -- but he is now clearly opposed to Trump. He even thinks Trump deserves to go to jail for his assortment of crimes (while also being skeptical that the Republican investigations into Joe Biden have any legitimacy). Given the Republican unification behind insurrection-supporter Mike Johnson, I think there's a small chance that I can get him to stop supporting any Republicans in the federal government, because those Republicans are enabling the Far Right Republicans.

[@TroyRudd574]

@1:17 Brilliant answer and spot on! I live in Indiana. This is the only way for me to reach many of my neighbors.

[@michaedove3562]

Its how I try to approach the people saying there was election fraud. "I'm open to changing my mind. I'm not sure about whether there was fraud or not. Lets have a discussion about what defines evidence of fraud."

[@scotrick333]

VERY well said about changing people's minds and being uncertain or having a sense of uncertainty. Jordan Klepper, we need more of you.

[@danielamos8219]

I rented a room from a couple for a bit, one day the water went out and the lady accused another person renting a room of sabotaging the water. I told her that I noticed water streaming down the gutter from up the street and that something might have happened to a water pipe. She then said something along the lines of "Then why is the water still running in the basement (weakly)"? Instead of saying "water is subject to gravity and thusly wouldn't flow much above the height of breakage" (which I was fairly sure would turn her ire upon myself) I said "I don't know, just thought it might be connected" at which point she calmed down.

[@aylbdrmadison1051]

I really appreciate Klepper and what he does.😊 But if anyone interested in learning, _Beau of the Fifth Column_ has changed many of their minds, simply by relentlessly but non-antagonistically producing constant facts and patiently explaining how things really work. I highly recommend at least checking him out. Some might think he looks a bit maga with the beard and ball-cap, but that's just stereotyping. He's completely on the other spectrum from them.🥰

[@FlorisGerber]

beau is THE best source for news I know.

[@theBear89451]

After reading your post, I checked out Beau of the Fifth Column. I found their content to be emotion driven, just like the rest of politics.

[@aylbdrmadison1051]

@@theBear89451 : Would be interesting to read an example, because I've been watching him for years and him being emotion driven is not something I've ever seen. Perhaps you think caring about people is :emotion driven. And if so, you misunderstand the role of compassion. It takes more strength to help another being, and so it makes the compassionate person much stronger than the greedy person. It also makes society stronger.

[@aylbdrmadison1051]

@@theBear89451 : It also seems you misunderstand the importance of emotion as well. Take anger for example. Anger in it's basic form is simply energy to be used to help protect oneself and others from further harm. It's how a mother protects her babies for instance. Anger becomes a problem when it's either left to fester, or turn to revenge. It's how one deals that matters. Denial of emotion makes one more emotionally frail.

[@CannibalCory]

If you don't know, "fifth column" is literally a reference to the subversive, the treasonous, and/or communist/fascist groups.

[@User12347ejdj]

Being in those crowds, I’ve had friends play up those interviews to be on TV. Sometimes hearing yourself out loud or on TV, it has an impact

[@bradleywalker8642]

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." ~ George Orwell, "1984"

[@MisterFire-sz9ez]

I think we all need to ask ourselves these questions. We may be right. But we don't have to be jerks about it.😎

[@xxxaragon]

Even more so: Never rule out the possibility of being unable to also learn something new. Otherwise, it wouldn't really be a dialogue, would it?

[@MisterFire-sz9ez]

Unstoppable force, meet immovable object. Somethings gotta give. Truth always wins.

[@johnchessant3012]

You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into.

[@dk4598]

That’s why I have always liked Trevor’s Noah’s interviews so much. Instead of telling someone whose viewpoint is different than his, Trevor asks questions instead and keeps his tone neutral.

[@SummitBidTech]

The more level headed pitchfork guy! That’s a hilarious story!

[@lephtovermeet]

1 on 1 you have to empathasize and connect with people, which is near impossible to do to a stranger.

[@ainumahtar]

Not really, but it is when you assume they will never agree, are dumb or in a cult, etc before you even engage with them.

[@MrBrock314]

@@ainumahtar It's even more important to talk to people nicely when they're in a cult.

[@ainumahtar]

@@MrBrock314 Not sure about nicely, but gingerly, certainly. I meant that if you preassume they are wrong because of your own notions you would not be able to connect, and possibly empathise with people you do not know.

[@themr_wilson]

A wise person has more questions than they have answers

[@marketads1]

Lev Parnas testified today that he finally came out of his Trump adoration when he was in prison. Distanced from the repeated input and fear of intimidation he got clarity. That sounds about right.

[@jessthegardener]

Even if you don't change their minds right then, sometimes just hearing something can turn the tides in your favor because you can't UNhear things.

[@Morna777]

Mary Shelley said that once you know something you can't unknow it.

[@extraincomesuz]

Jordan I love what you do.❤🎉

[@vdinh143]

Unfortunately in my experience, admitting to a lack of knowledge is often seen by these people as a sign of weakness.

[@eduvigessakta9530]

I think you are so knowledgeable of everything that is going on in America. You are one of the younger generation that should be running for president!

[@GB-TX]

LOVE THIS. So many profoundly important topics in one quick clip.

[@Matt2299]

“You cannot reason a person out of a position he did not reason himself into in the first place.” - Jonathan Swift

[@richardw1043]

That's completely untrue. People can become more self-aware and self-doubting when you ask a line of questioning that's rooted in rationality.

[@NeoDragonFlame]

"can you believe this f!ing guy" that is priceless!!! 😂

[@Hundo_Mo]

I dont know if he wants it. But, Klepper really should be the host of the show going forward.

[@loglog7]

The problem is that they see changing their mind as a sign of weakness and nothing scares conservatives more than the idea of weakness.

[@DethronerX]

That ending story lol

[@sarahj3349]

To change someone’s mind, you have treat them with sincere respect, and they have to know you hold them in esteem. You have to be in it together.

[@CTB727]

My son told me for evey article I show him about Trump, he can give me one that says the opposite. As long as there are two realities, I don't know how to change minds. Especially when all the politicians in a a party support alternate facts.

[@rancher12121]

your son is the trump guy? usually the other way around

[@CTB727]

@@rancher12121 We live in GA14

[@steveclayton9901]

What a beautiful way to explain how we can cross the bridge to have a dialogue. I really haven't heard anyone dissect this as well as Jordan Klepper did in this piece. Many hearts.... Keep doing this!

[@u-mos8820]

There's a cosmic hilarity to me that those who think tough love is what people need more of, often find they are the ones that need it most.

[@harrismonica44]

We ❤ you, Jordan! Thank you for representing with a conscience… From another Michigander 😊

[@lewster668]

Great insight on how to speak to and level with our friends and family who are neck deep in the lies.

[@mntking22]

Jordan is absolutely brilliant in this piece and what he says about coming from a place of uncertainty is the first step is 100% spot on. The first step in reaching compromise and understanding is conceding that you yourself are not completely and absolutely right about everything while also acknowledging that others have valid and legitimate concerns and points of view. Our politicians on both sides are completely certain in their beliefs and concede no ground. A house divided against itself can not long stand.

[@theemporersnewclothes]

Thank you for your service Jordan

[@amuletk]

Well said. What you do is so important. Thank you.

[@Dumbstuffwatcher]

My dad sent me + my brother pictures of all his Trump stuff in the garbage on 1/6/21. It's something that they have to do on their own

[@riluna3695]

Of course, you have to be careful HOW you "concede something", because if you go in freely admitting "Hey, I don't know everything, but I do know this," you're not even going to finish the sentence before they've pounced on that comment to suggest that their certainty outranks your uncertainty and gives them an immediate victory. Not everyone will do it, but I have definitely seen it happen. Far, far too often... People have no inherent self-awareness with which to analyze their own beliefs. It's a trained skill that you have to build up over time and always deliberately employ in every situation, or it falls off into disuse. And many communities pride themselves on convincing its members that self-awareness is actively dangerous and should be avoided at all costs. It's the number one way to keep people believing whatever lies you tell them. "NOT believing this will cost you everything you love and cherish, and the people who try to convince you it's wrong are evil and only want you to suffer." This isn't even exaggeration. It's common practice. That's what we're up against in this fight. That's why it feels so impossible to make any progress. But we ARE making progress, slowly but surely. It's just not going to happen overnight. But if we feel it's hopeless and stop fighting entirely, THAT'S when we start to lose ground. So the next time you're feeling that hope fade, just look back at history at the fights we've already won, and the very consistent upward trend of rights and respect that have been earned for people who need and deserve it just as much as everyone else. We're winning. Keep it up.

[@xxxaragon]

"and gives them an immediate victory." I'd argue perceiving discussion and dialogue as a matter of "winning" and "losing" is actually part of the problem. (and something that of course has gotten sooooo prevalent online, probably even moreso after the rise of social media)

[@clintmash245]

I enjoy that the OP's writing could be read in a favorable light by anyone, regardless of the sided nature of their beliefs. Impressive centrist phrasing! I prefer the "more equality, more support" point of view, for what it's worth.

[@riluna3695]

@@clintmash245 That is one of the greatest compliments I have ever received. I wasn't even trying to do that, that's just how I naturally think and react. There are certainly topics I get worked up about and feel the need to get aggressive on, but I find that there are always severely unhealthy extremes on both sides of every issue, and those extremes always need to be fought down and pulled closer to the center, even if the truth isn't actually fully centered, but a bit lopsided. Like for example which of the two presidential candidates is an election-stealing criminal ringleader in cognitive decline, and which is an old but sane person who's being unfairly prosecuted by the other side. Both sides think they're correct, but only one is actually supported by reality. There's no "middle ground" here that's better than the correct side, because objective truth is a thing that exists. (Now THAT one I worded ambiguously on purpose. Everyone reading this is nodding along going "yep, my side's the right one and those others are batshit crazy") But yeah. Sometimes people are extremists for a viewpoint opposite mine, and I dislike them and want them to some day learn how the world really works. And sometimes people are extremists for MY side, and those people make me _absolutely livid._ Ruining everything by making my side look as bad as possible, and silencing my more nuanced opinions in the shouting matches between extremists that ensue. They do not speak for me. They do not represent or respect my views. I reject them utterly. I wish more people thought like me and fought back against their own side's extremists. Once we shut them up, then we can have a civil discussion with the other side on the REAL issues.

[@swilldenn7160]

Changing someone's mind isn't actually that difficult if if it was just a disagreement of an opinion. Unfortunately with Trump supporters it's not. We're attempting to change an ideology, The way they've been taught to ignore and dismiss any other side from any other source regardless of whether or not it's true. To have someone dismiss even the basic principles of right and wrong is a psychological challenge.

[@stephenthompson7213]

Well spoken! This is positive and hopeful. Thank you.

[@laskey2175]

A Trump supporter's views are not based on reality or reasoning. Logic will not persuade them.

[@LuisMiguelCovarrubiasPous]

Jordan often approaches these guys, they have no idea who he is, and they don't even realize he's being sarcastic (sarcasm demands some intelligence)... I wonder if he ever found one just smart enough to realize he's making fun of them... Did he have to run for his life?

[@thepfeiffer5106]

Admitting to being wrong is physically painful for some people, but as someone who is never wrong, I'm just assuming this, but ill never change my mind

[@garyrobbins5505]

Ha ha! Perfectly said!

[@cfriesen222]

"The opposite of faith is not doubt, it's certainty." - Paul Tillich

[@Chiater]

I totally disagree with that quote...

[@cfriesen222]

@@Chiater Care to explain?

[@darriematthewburrage2920]

You know what…I think Jordan Klepper should be taken quite seriously as the possible next official host. That dude got some serious wit, poise, and an accessible stance that really elevates the hosting role - no shade to the other correspondents who are also tremendously talented, of course. And as side thought, i would like to see more Black talent be elevated as correspondents. The show really lost something when Roy Wood Jr. exited, and it’s been a minute since we’ve seen Dulce Sloan - and where did Josh Johnson go?!… The absence of Blackness is hurting quality the show once had and limits the topics/perspectives the show can showcase.

[@cjzito]

How do avoid the logical fallacy of false equivalence ("both sides") if you make concessions on a factual topic? In most topics pitting MAGA vs non-MAGA, the facts are typically professed by only one side, while the other side is swimming in falsehoods pretending to be facts. Having a lot of trouble agreeing that you must make concessions without sacrificing your own integrity.

[@jeremiahcep]

As a college teacher my philosophy has always been to teach students how to think, not what to think. Then trust that an informed person with the ability to analyze things on their own will find the right answer.

[@materialgrl2000]

Yeah but the problem is there's power in NOT teaching people to think for themselves. There's also a lot of money and power to be grabbed from manipulated masses.

[@Karrikua]

Well said.

[@Roguerebel297]

When you get paramount+ to watch daily show but they don’t post the episodes on time so I end up watching for free on KZbin 🤷‍♂️

[@TornSparrow1974]

One of the best 'After the Cut' segments. :o)

[@jessicasingh942]

Absolutely. I’m surrounded by far right and I never have any problems. I look at them as friends and concede things I don’t know, but I definitely will research right then.

[@disavowalf3351]

Oh, sweetheart, that sounds…um…a lot but well done for having the strength of mind to concede and then check. Wishing you all the very best🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿❤️

[@MrBrock314]

@@disavowalf3351 It sounds pretty normal - acknowledging that you're not all knowing.

[@disavowalf3351]

@@MrBrock314 …oh, soz, was I showing empathy? We can’t have that!!!

[@angelariebli4843]

There's so much truth in this segment -- for ALL of us!

[@timerney9767]

"One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back." - Carl Sagan

[@MrBrock314]

Keep in mind that charlatan might be Carl Sagan ;)

[@Throgan]

Thank you for 1:17 !! I've been shouted down so often by your fans that by empathizing or showing humility I'm just enabling fascism. I hope it resonates more coming straight from you.

[@RoShnog]

We'll see. Jordan said he hasn't changed anybody's mind.

[@FulminicMantra]

Often, when I want someone to like or enjoy or believe something I do, I never even question them on it directly. I simply describe and talk about how much I like it, everything I've learned and all the reasons it makes sense to me. If they have any respect or love for you at all, they will at least consider what you're saying or ask themselves internally why you're into it so much. This allows people to think about something different or in a different way, without feeling like they're on the defensive. So I think Klepper is right here.

[@michaelbuehler3897]

Sometimes it takes something drastic to change people.

[@Sammasambuddha]

Sometimes? LoL. If by sometimes you mean 99.999% of the time.

[@racheltaylor185]

These are the same people that will cry when their rights are gone! I know where my finger will be pointed!

[@iliya1933]

The part that brings this together for me is that we have to understand that we CAN'T be certain about a lot of things. If we go into a "discussion" with someone thinking that there's nothing for us to learn from them, then we aren't showing them the respect that we want from them (which is that they will learn something from us). Politicians always talk about how X thing is objective, Y is absolutely clear, and if you don't think Z, then you're any number of different labels they might put on you. All that does is stop the discourse and keep everyone entrenched.

[@Scowleasy]

People that think covid was a hoax don’t deserve my respect.

[@xxxaragon]

@@Scowleasy I think the point being made is: if you don't respect them, how could you expect them to respect you?

[@Scowleasy]

@@xxxaragon why would I *ever* want their respect?

[@iliya1933]

@@Scowleasy My comment assumes that you are one of the people that Jordan's talking about that would enter into a discussion with someone who thinks differently with a desire to change someone's mind. If you have no plans to do that, then just ignore this. But Jordan basically said in this video that if you enter the discourse with the idea that "people that think X don't deserve my respect," then you're never going to change their mind or accomplish anything.

[@noitallmanaz]

Klepper for President. Dude is smart and well-adjusted.

[@eric203kid]

There’s no point to argue ignorance. It is a cult