Has McLaren ‘Bottled’ It Against ‘Alien’ Verstappen? | F1 Podcast

[@jacksonrodrigues7533]

People need to understand that back then the performance differences between the cars was huge compared to today’s cars. So I would say this could be the top 2 drives of all time

[@bjrnchrstn]

Agree, the other being max 2016 in Brazil 😝

[@gabrielmitran643]

Even Jeremy Clarkson said it.... and he is British 😅

[@ryanyeung3843]

Also bigger, wider cars, harder to control and pass. Not just the cars, all drivers are professional athletes now and even the so called worst ones are not really that bad. Conditions back then would be way more harsh though. Safety standards is much higher now. F1 is not racing in horrifying conditions anymore, which is a good thing.

[@JS-ll8nk]

How is this not the greatest wet race ever?? Starting P17 and beating your title rival who started pole by 30 seconds.. 17 fastest laps, not in the best car, facing adversity from FIA/media bias, potential massive points loss, high level field, most overtakes and no mistakes on a day when the other drivers could hardly overtake and all made mistakes. I mean, what else could you throw at him? Hamilton 2008?? He started P4 in the best car! Come on… this channel takes the piss.

[@51bikerboy]

A British expert who only has experience with a man powered skelter! In England good enough to be a commentator/ F1 expert.

[@williamdaniels9180]

Cars are closer then ever so what Max did is unprecedented.

[@Steinstra-vj7wl]

..it has to be a Brit for it to be the best drive ever...sorry Max, you have the wrong Passport.

[@alicekoppenol-pitti6257]

😂😂😂 10 second penalty

[@51bikerboy]

Sick of these people who only driven a man powered skelter and than in England you are a F1 expert!

[@caro2501]

exactly my thoughts, they had to dig deep to find a british driver that, according to them, did a better job than Max!!!

[@ClinicalDecisionYikesYT]

This entire video is delusional. Max is now the greatest of all time.

[@tecnerd6341]

Max is the best driver in f1 history. And I speak from experience I'm watching f1 from 70's

[@ClinicalDecisionYikesYT]

@ thank you for the proof! I started watching in the 2000s as a kid. Glad to hear from someone with the appropriate bonafides 😎

[@Ron_Real]

It must hurt to be British press atm 😂😂😂😂

[@hanstubben]

According to F1-Stats the cars are closer than ever, it´s not seldom to see first 15 drivers within a second in qualifying. This makes what Max has shown in Brazil that more special, yes I do think it was one of the all time best drives. OK I have to admit that I haven´t seen Fangio, Clark or Stewart racing, but I do follow F1 since the mid seventies.

[@michaeldellorso889]

Speaking of forgotten Max races, Sochi 21 was great. P20 to P2 in mixed conditions

[@caro2501]

what about Zandvoort last year, speaking about mixed conditions!

[@JudgeYuri]

Of course some former British dude was better then Max. Sure no British Bias. /Sarcasm off

[@JudgeYuri]

Too much British Bias on this channel for me to give a like

[@marcelm3137]

Thanks for your views. Regarding the question on McLaren and if they are ready, compared to Red Bull who has the experience in more recent years....let's not forget that during the Mercedes dominant period, Red Bull always otpimized: if there was a change to win a race, they won it (sure probably not a 100%), the first change they had to win again a driver championship, they delivered and won it. So it is less about learning from when the opportunity occurs, it is about learning and optimizing every race, every opportunity so that when there is an opportunity to win a championship...you optimize! I would be a bit more critical regarding learning versus optimizing...next seasons you might not have the opportunity, you have to do your homework before there is a change. (ps: I am no doubt biased with my orange glasses)

[@bjrnchrstn]

I feel you forgot to talk about one quality that max has in abundance and lando is lacking: consistency. When max got in front the last 20 laps in Brazil you knew there will be zero mistakes. Whole of 2023?? Zero mistakes, smashing records. Consistency like a Swiss clock. On the grid currently Alonso and Hamilton have shown that they could do that aswell given the right tools. I feel oscar has it more than lando too. Lando got 3 wins so far, first with a lucky safetycar (or was that talent 😅), zandvoort (solid) and Singapore where he also slipped up twice due to laps in concentration. 10 poles of which he bottled 9! Consistency is key for a wdc and lando needs to get buckets more or he won’t ever become one.

[@diangara3298]

You "don't think Lando has the edge on Max yet"? Haha what an insight. Lando bottled this season. That's all. It's not McLarens fault for not making Oscar a clear number 2 driver earlier. It's not up to Oscar to make Lando a champion. Especially when he's fumbling every start. Stop these pathetic excuses.

[@lousekoya1803]

The respect you have for listening to each other is remarkable ! Great team work !

[@Arnaud58]

Correct! By you and the speakers. That is certainly NOT the case on another (country's) RN365 channel👴🧐😤😡

[@InterestedAmerican]

Everyone loves an underdog story, but the reality is Lando Norris's chances of winning weren't as good as believed. Everyone brings up, but if Max Verstappen doesn't finish, or something heppens, while never entertaining the thought that the exact same thing would happen to Lando Norris. In Brazil it happened, and Lando had the kind of race that everyone said could happen to Max. The knife cuts both ways.

[@hderijk]

Stewart being 4 min ahead of everyone else speaks against it being the best wet weather drive ever.

[@Jada17817]

If Bernie Ecclestone and Eddie Jordan say it’s the best drive ever, they are valued for their opinion. They’ve seen them all. Don’t downplay greatness

[@bjrnchrstn]

McLaren talks the talk, but does not walk the walk. They (andrea, zak and lando) shouldn’t have had such a big mouth because now they look like fools and yes…. Bottled it. It’s their demeanor that makes people say ‘bottled’.

[@mariandanila5896]

It was a very sad day for the british nationalists.. As we can see in this video.

[@paulswanenburg7445]

Bad audio quality

[@vaibhavagrawal4769]

Yes don't worry even if Mclaren bottles it again you guys will be there to defend them. I mean this argument that oh this is their first time in a while to fight for the title is BS. This is supposed to be pinnacle of motorsport, how many times have we had a driver not win despite having the fastest car for majority of the season? Coming to F1 and saying oh lol sorry first season lets try later lol what the hell, this is not kids playing cricket.

[@bjrnchrstn]

Even if…. They had a big mouth (zak, andrea and lando) and now look like fools. It’s their demeanor that makes me say ‘they bottled it’. Talk the talk, but don’t walk the walk.

[@marianne9221]

Wow thats some of the most ridiculous gaslighting and mental gymnastics ive ever seen.

[@johnalbertocarvalho4366]

Remember that Ayerton passed the 8 front runners (not midfielders) in lap 1

[@Ibiza.Motorbike.Enthusiasts]

Windsor made a very comprehensive video about how many driverpoints McLaren as a team cost Lando this year, it amounts to about 34. The gap between Lando and Max now could have been 28 points, still a big ask but doable. So I guess "bottled'' is the right term, I would say. Still much respect for Ian!

[@diangara3298]

Funny how he didn't also add up all the points Lando lost by making all those mistakes. It's always easy to make up a fantasy reality that doesn't exist and blame that for all your problems instead of looking in the mirror. Lando has been blowing wins and potential wins from his 1st opportunity in Russia. It's time to deal with that.

[@mohitsasidharan]

Come on mate, everyone knows that if you add the total points of the bottled race starts(from pole position)that Lando has had this season, this will be far more than 34 points. DId WIndsor mention anything about that in his videos? I would say its 20% Mclarens fault.

[@amintoodeep]

Everyone has their opinion, let's just take it as amongst the great ones... Considering the context of the drive and what's at stake. We should just appreciate it for what it was

[@cloveruy]

Hope Ferrari wins constructor😊

[@kondjanegongo796]

Jamie Chadwick deserved a seat if we have drivers like Stroll. Can you guys please explain the dynamics of Strolls contract and if his father only owns 30% of the team why he still has enough power to keep his son (who is an actual nepo baby - no insult) in that seat... when we can all see he does not have the skill or speed to deserve that seat. I hope Drugovichi gets the seat but i think he wont get into f1

[@cafe88racer53]

i wasnt born when jackie was racing lol, max still the goat

[@kondjanegongo796]

Bottles Norris will have his hands full with Oscar if their car is the fastest. I just hope its a Leclerc vs Max vs Lando vs Lewis vs Oscar vs George royal rumble next year

[@Arnaud58]

@30:00 Huge expectations often disappoint. When the car is not fully to LH's liking it will be bound be a reprise of "Plan B..., No plan U..., Or do you have a suggestion... Question!"👴🤷‍♂

[@jackkrijthe1056]

Max had a great race and how great it was or how great Max is, I find it difficult why we should compare. We talk about different times, different cars and partly different tracks. We have several great champions and yes they were probably in the better car, but races like Brazil show who the better drivers were and you mentioned the names, Max, Steward but also ofcourse Schumacher, Hamilton, Prost and probably many more. All good drivers in their time and let's respect them all for who they are and not necessarily compare them against the other great ones. McClaren made some mistakes but I don't think it would have mattered for the championship. Lando is a good driver but he's not an asshole enough yet. And you have to be one to become a champion. That said, next year will be very interesting, as McClaren will probably have a whole season with a better car. But don't discount Ferrari either. This season's championship has not yet been decided and I am already looking forward to next year. A Max fan.

[@frdml01]

Are there any engine penalties hanging over Mclaren's heads over the last three races? Or are they safe on there.

[@vincentras1991]

Lando is on his last engine

[@ayelcaleb9644]

I cant agree with the guy on the right. I mean if they didnt not learn in all those mistakes from miami till cota, they are just hard headed.

[@sancheznegi]

Someone says this podcast is shite

[@oudloek]

Brits choosing Brits as best drives ever. Nothing new actually.

[@kondjanegongo796]

We all have recency bias and think the last great we saw was the greatest. There have been many great races over the years and some races in monsoon conditions.

[@bjrnchrstn]

Nahh other way around. The old 1968 drive or the Senna Donnington etc are over romanticized by most of which 75% can’t even remember it, or worse, haven’t even seen it. I feel you can’t ever talk about ‘the best race’, ‘the best driver’, etc. The aim is that you just want to be in the conversation. If that happens you have done enough.

[@kondjanegongo796]

@@bjrnchrstn I saw the donnington race as a kid and cant remember it... and the schumi spain 96 race and cant remember it. so u right on that point. I agree with the guys and you on the whole GOAT thing. I feel that the era you started watching will always have bias to you and you then forgt the actual facts and remember it with rose coloured glasses and romantisizing. In my opinion the drivers from the 50s, 60s and 70s had to be the most skilled eras as a crash would kill them, and they didnt have radios and driver aids.

[@samarth678]

McLaren? No. Lando? Yes. Cheers

[@ua697]

Will McLaren invite Donnie T again 🤓

[@tecnerd6341]

23:16 this guy always looking for excuses for losers.

[@tecnerd6341]

14:45 I agree with you 100% Norris is a bottle job sor loser, Norris 🍾 🍾 the driver champion, not McLaren

[@nickr8563]

Sorry to say this , but if lando doesn't get that killer instinct, he would never be a world champion, he is the perfect son in law , looks really sweet, but I think that Liam has it more .