Has Mongoose Bite Been Fixed??? 🏹 | The War Within | World of Warcraft

Mongoose Bite has AGAIN been reworked in The War Within, and today I will share my thoughts on it! We have received a few improvements, and I'm looking forward to hearing peoples opinion on it. :)

[@Streaming_Music]

I really enjoyed that first iteration of MB where it dropped it to 3 stacks but let you keep it up.

[@mr.vanvacter8567]

Stronger, yes but I still don’t like it. Weaving kill commands is not fun or engaging. I personally think kill command doesn’t fit into the survival hunter archetype at all please just remove it.

[@KroesGaming]

I personally don’t mind Kill Command, but I completely agree on the weaving. Weaving is boring, and while the buff itself is increased long enough for us to get damage out, it is still “a sinking boat” in the end, which feels incredibly unsatisfying…

[@benkelly7182]

Liked and subbed. Appreciate all the SV Hunter content ❤

[@GUTAMAYAx]

I really wanted a heavy bleed/dot and bomb build for sv hunter. Bleed dmg and dots just aren’t there. Sv is good, don’t get me wrong, but this is not the direction I wanted them to take sv hunter at all. Bleeds/dots, bombs, traps, and good kiting abilities is what I wanted

[@saindst]

It is still stupid unfortunately, the whole mechanic is pointless considering the direction they took the spec in the rework. I do not understand why we get ONE melee ability that is instantly changed to another to replace it in our talent tree, just so we can spam that ONE ability and be classified as a melee class when our toolkit is 90% ranged. Why didn't they make the SMART change, and change Mongoose Fury to be a buff that stacks to three with each Raptor generating a charge of mongoose fury, and after getting to the third charge we gain Mongoose Bite, AN ADDITIONAL MELEE ABILITY that we can hit that then does the damage equivalent to double that of raptor strike with a bonus like 50% increased chance to crit or applies bleed for 100% of its damage over x seconds. This would have made MUUUUCH more sense as it gives us an additional ability to hit in melee AND allows us to actually dump focus on an ability without caring about it consuming ToTS, then build back fury with KC and dump it on something like Mongoose Bite, Bomb, Explosive. I do not understand why anyone would want mongoose fury to stay as it is, it being a ramp the way it is, is basically pulling two different priority systems in different directions, either bomb/explosive or mongoose. In the heat of pvp you are going to eventually find yourself losing a crap ton of damage trying to mix this shit together or focusing on one. They f'd it all up in my honest opinion, and everyone will find out sooner or later that it will NOT work.

[@SamMathewsOfficial]

Yeah I agree it might be dead. There is still a chance, but time is ticking. At least its starting to get a little better instead of just getting worse. Time will tell.

[@KroesGaming]

We do have very few offensive spells now, because we got de-bloated. Which was good, since our opener was horrible to get out. But I like adding in a second melee ability, which becomes usable at a certain amount of stacks. 👍 It doesn’t interfere with the bloat issue we originally had to our opener, and it gives us a fun reason to press Raptor Strike. Would much rather see a change like this, over the “sinking boat buff” we have currently in beta and Dragonflight. Some might feel that this makes the spec too simple, however simplicity is ALWAYS better than unsatisfying mechanics.

[@dark9nine]

Its a minigame inside my game that i don't want to play I think there is alot of potential, they can do the same thing they are trying to do waaaay less complex. I like my specs engaging and hard to master but never annoying. good video man! ty for the info.

[@KroesGaming]

Yeah I will leave mongoose fury in the back of my mind, rather than constantly watching the buff 😅 I still love SV Hunter for what it is, but I did hope that Mongoose Fury would have gotten changed.

[@dark9nine]

@@KroesGaming Lets hope they do. Its probably not going to happen BUT a man can dream! Have a great day/night

[@SilentMeDude]

Just don’t grab mongoose bite. Utilize those two talents into other more interesting passives for your wanted abilities. Then you won’t be as overwhelmed.

[@bambamsnots1221]

Where’s your haste at during this testing? I imagine with higher haste you can you’ll be able to get more mongoose bites and kill commands out.

[@KroesGaming]

Haste is quite low in this beta character, sitting at only 11%. With a much higher haste, the GCD should make us able to pump out many more Mongoose Bites. 🙂 The comparison with my last video still stands though, since the character is unchanged since then. Another important point which isn't discussed more, is that Kill Command receives more resets, the higher the Mongoose Fury stacks. Meaning Kill Command dmg is greatly increased, and no longer "sacrifices" Mongoose Fury CD duration, because of the 1.5 sec increase. So we can now use Kill Command without it feeling bad as well. 🙂

[@michaelstellitano2810]

Not yet. I feel 3 seconds added from kill command would do it. At 1.5 seconds It barely counters the gcd it takes to use kill command.

[@jackvai2681]

awkward...don't like it....clunky. thanks for the video.

[@KroesGaming]

Yeah it’s still the whole… “build up stacks FAST before you loose the buff!” playstyle… I still much prefer the original Mongoose Bite rework, where it is simply a buff that we gotta refresh.

[@jackvai2681]

@@KroesGaming but i still love survival...i'll make it work...just a you do.

[@nick-ww8pk]

Weaving kill command in between everything you do is one of the dumbest things I’ve seen blizzard implement into a spec.

[@KroesGaming]

Yeah it's probably the most boring rotation mechanic in the game from what I know 😅

[@tazuna02]

nah. this is awful with the overall rework.. they should decide already if they want SV to have MB or not. remove either Raptor or MB. this looks more like an annoying maintenance minigame you play

[@erebos426]

Looks superrr clunky jeez, I want survival to be good since its a good concept but prob not this xpac its looking like. They need to just make it all melee since they did this with outlaw and introduced the stupid dice and pistol and ruined that too similar to this, like USE THE DAMN PET SOMEHOW instead of giving it passive nodes.

[@KroesGaming]

I honestly play the spec for its utility, fantasy, and tmog options hehe. This new mongoose playstyle is “meh”, and honestly I will probably still just have mongoose fury be in the back of my mind, rather than something I pro-actively try to focus on.