Has Rashee Rice overtaken Travis Kelce as the Chiefs' top receiver? | Pro Football Talk | NFL on NBC

[@rcdesigns]

Career games: Jason Witten: 271 (R) + 8 (P) 279 total, retired at 38 Tony Gonzales: 270 (R) + 7 (P) 277 total, retired at 37 Antonio Gates: 220 (R) + 12 (P) 232 total, retired at 39 Travis Kelce: 162 (R) + 22 (P) 184 total, currently 34 He's still got plenty of juice left. I don't know if he'll play past his contract, but that's another 31 games without playoffs. He's not drastically falling off lol. He's being doubled and bracketed. Watch the tape.

[@jaysonsmith7264]

those TE werent playing 4 playoff games a year. kelce has played a whole season in the playoffs the past 5 years ur lying to urself. kelce is definitely retiring after this year and im a chiefs fan

[@darchocolate31]

@@jaysonsmith7264 nope, he said he will at least play the 2 years left in his contract. Then he will probably retire.

[@arthasmenethil4297]

He didn’t start playing till he was around 25 tho

[@jessekittrell2946]

​@@arthasmenethil4297 exactly lol. Witten & Gonzalez each played 63 games before their age 25 season .... not to mention Kelces usage has been higher per season on average. All his examples except Gonzalez were shells of themselves by age 35 lol. And Gonzalez had played just 4 playoff games leading up to his age 35 season.... Kelce played that many JUST in last year's playoffs lol. He's played 22 in 9 years (16 the last 5 years). Games are more physical in the playoffs. That's what aided in taking down Gronk also.... playing all season with high ysage PLUS at least 3 playoff games year after year after year after year after year will wear u down, as opposed to less wear & tear PLUS more to time to heal.

[@mikehouse68]

@@jaysonsmith7264 Bwahahahahaha Kelce is being Double and Triple Teamed.. Sooo he's not getting open.. however making other open. I say if the Chiefs Threepeat it would be a good time for Kelce to Retire... however if they don't I could see him playing a few more Years. He's only 34 for Fucks sakes.

[@quintenruckman3505]

He was BOOKED on felony counts, he hasn’t been CHARGED! You’re a fucking lawyer, how do you not understand this?!?!?! Haven’t heard anything about Addison’s speeding…

[@jamara4087]

Yea that bit of commentary about the “felony charges “ was a familiar dog whistle. Tf does his open case have to do with how he’s evolving as a player. Only an old white dude would even take it there.

[@jasoncain9602]

Yep, only court date that is set is a civil suit

[@jessekittrell2946]

Yep & they did that bc it was such a public case they had to make it LOOK like they were throwing the book at him at THAT time lol.

[@boscocfh]

God Florio just give up the Rice witch hunt. He will get his punishment after this season.

[@ironpanther689]

Facts he can never talk about how good of a player he is without bringing this stuff up.

[@dionjulien3983]

That's literally what he wants is for him to not be playing like give it a rest bro

[@johaw105]

The player put himself in the position to have the discussion

[@xrppornstar9483]

No he actually makes a valid point. He is getting away with too much

[@boscocfh]

@johaw105 and the discussion has been had repeatedly. At this point, your just beating a dead horse. Like I said his punishment is coming, but it won't be till next season, sorry.

[@Reema-tz9ek]

Mahomes has been playing poorly, throwing behind guys and missing Kelce who was wondering wide open on almost every play wdym he has only 2 target a game. Pat needs to step it up, and people need to stop blaming Kelce.

[@briant6532]

Agreed. Mahomes is off for some reason and he needs to tighten it up. Kelce is not what he used to be, but he’s not even getting targets which is what he could still do very well. He’s just not going to make runs after the catch at the same rate

[@thatstheway2429]

There’s almost no benefit to giving Kelce more targets in September. There’s only a finite number of hits a guy like that can take.

[@JohnnieSmith-c7d]

True

[@williamd1891]

Mahomes has been "off" since EB left and Matt Nagy took his place.

[@sam11297]

Ok Swiftie!!

[@hartless_hunter3756]

Kelce is being doubled and we are using him as distraction. But later in season he will come through

[@Jacob-nu4nd]

He’s just waiting for the playoffs

[@cliffordbass7007]

@@hartless_hunter3756 yea that’s true

[@mooknick242]

lol he isnt being doubled. Are you not actually watching?? He was absolutely wide open half the time. He is a little slower but Mahomes is the one struggling

[@KcMike66]

@@mooknick242brother he was doubled. Watch the ALL 22

[@hartless_hunter3756]

@@mooknick242 he is being bracketed. 1 inside 1 outside

[@JayyBanks]

They’re talking like the Chiefs are 0-3 😂

[@81suze]

Yes 😂

[@JohnClarkW]

Not to mention owning the head to head tie breaker over two of the top AFC teams. The 10 days of Christmas are going to dictate where the Chiefs play in Jan. That Browns, Texans, Steelers between the 15th and 25th of Dec. could be interesting.

[@KemetColeman816]

Hahahahaha

[@steffenandersensahl9443]

Driving 100 on the highway is called living in California.

[@jdodds1612]

Notice how different these people talk about hill, just because hill was stopped by a cop instead of a car

[@kc2dc444]

People also forget that EVERY team plays the Chiefs like it's their super bowl.

[@Gen_X_Jay]

Simms immediately going to his patented “I hear ya, I hear ya” to move it along….

[@elliesworld3776]

The Kelce drop wasnt a drop. That was a great defensive play. He caught the ball and it was knocked out.

[@GPeterson-jw5sp]

The characterization of Kelce is so far off track...it's ridiculous...

[@Jahwobbly]

Kelce never caught a pass using his speed. He got open against guys twice as fast as him. He's done it by understanding position, leverage, and intelligence. If KC can get someone besides Rice catch a few balls, Kelce will be open.

[@thatstheway2429]

Well yes and no. Kelce has always been ridiculously fast for a tight end. There’s a reason he’s the greatest pass catcher at tight end. Too fast for LBs, too big for DBs, and to your point, he’s incredibly smart and knows how to beat coverages.

[@breadlund1954]

Florio, literally no one has forgotten about the felony charges. Every Chiefs fan is waiting for the legal process to play out. Is it right? No. Is there anything anyone can do about it? No.

[@TomBad-o6x]

Womp womp

[@jdodds1612]

How is it not right? We have a legal process, you are innocent until proven guilty......everyone knows he will be punished, but we have a legal system for a reason, so again........how is it "not right"?

[@TomBad-o6x]

@@jdodds1612 let those people cry 😭 like he's playing for the time being

[@breadlund1954]

@@jdodds1612 Rice isn't innocent. The video evidence of him leaving the scene of the accident exists.

[@skoshunt]

They did talk about during Ravens game, I expect him to be suspended next year, yes NFL doesn't want to talk about it, as a Chiefs fan I wish it wouldn't have happened, but while he plays I say go big, Rice.

[@winkweindel]

Hey florio talk about the wreck again tomorrow and it will accomplish more nothing than today

[@sirtheodorefranciswindsor]

Florio lives rent free in your head 😂😂

[@raya9525018]

Florio is obsessed with Rashee rice situation 🥴😂

[@SosukeAizenDaKid]

He could've killed someone but is being brushed aside

[@randysaretzky3375]

@@SosukeAizenDaKidKamara near beat a guy to death on camera. They still waited till after the court case

[@nickrowe4584]

@@SosukeAizenDaKid Yeah it wasn't brushed aside its standard operating procedure for the NFL to wait after the legal proceeding, I see comments on this video like this. Yall care enough about the NFL to watch and comment on the video but don't know how the NFL usually handles situations like this? I think its just fake outrage and Chiefs hate tbh.

[@chopsieflores4844]

Yep. Almost too bitter to listen to.

[@ZiggyZou]

@@SosukeAizenDaKidTyreek hill has done a lot worse and people treat him like a god lol

[@jimconnole6328]

If Florio had 8 felony traffic offenses pending should he be canned or suspended without pay until it is resolved? Just asking Mike, you willing to take that hit?

[@hartless_hunter3756]

8 felonies that will get plead down to 8 misdemeanors. Quit over hyping it.

[@hartless_hunter3756]

Video was horrifying lmao. Stfu. Watch some of Vicks dog fights. Watch some of these guys beat there spouse.

[@huntercook6605]

@@hartless_hunter3756 Sure, driving like an idiot is 100% exactly like wife beating and dog fighting 🙄

[@jameszhou162]

Exactly, the attorneys will make a deal with prosecutors on some funding arrangements and he is off on some community service duties.😅

[@nickim6571]

It's actually TWO felonies and 6 misdemeanors.

[@clark7662]

Florio wants the Chiefs to have more hurdles. He’s among those who are tired of them.

[@JayyBanks]

Florio wants the game announcers to be like “And Rashee Rice with the big first down catch!! … buuuut don’t forget he has 8 pending felony charges” 😂 Every possession.

[@saudiagant8589]

Why do you want us to keep talking about an accident that is not yet resolved? Boy be quiet. No one has forgotten, and I'm sure once we have an outcome everyone will be talking. Like wtf

[@RickyStyles-xe4zh]

Right like stfu...why do we need to continue talking about it?what is that going to do?

[@dreamchaser7603]

First of all, Let’s remember that Travis Kelce isn’t a receiver in the first place. And why do you pretend they’re in competition?? They are on the same team!!

[@delsrode25]

So literally what you are saying is every week, every game, it has to be mentioned about 8 felonies. No People do notice and ppl are still following it. It doesn’t need to be the topic of discussion every week. You know, he knows, we all know it’s pending. 🤦‍♂️

[@2sauceytre216]

EXACTLY!!

[@rickybaker42]

Thank you. My thoughts exactly. Also, the only thing worse than beating a dead horse is virtue signaling. And Florio seems to think we need to do both to prevent recklessness among the youth. I just don’t think that’s how kids brains work

[@delsrode25]

@@rickybaker42 Florio sounds like he wants it mentioned every week. After every play. “Great catch and run by Rashee Rice! Speaking of run, remember when he ran after the speedy crash…” 😂 come on man! 🤦‍♂️

[@rickybaker42]

@@delsrode25 lol exactly

[@jdodds1612]

Its pretty irritating that people want rice to be punished prior to his day in court. Thats how the system works, he has 8 fellony CHARGES, talk to me when he has 8 fellony CONVICTIONS......until then, talk about football, you are not a legal expert, you are a football expert

[@micahbarnett2317]

Yes and that’s how it’s supposed to be. lol people making this out to be a bad thing. You have a young, fast skilled wr1 with so much potential to grow vs a 35 year old tight end. Like there’s no story here. a tight end is never willingly going to be the number 1 receiver on a team. Kelce can still come up big in the playoffs but the guys gonna retire soon.

[@dylann3174]

kelce is still kelce, mahomes hasn't been playing good football and that should be the story here tbh. i've seen kelce open multiple times for big gains.

[@n.a.supreme1820]

Florio. "It's like he's not facing 8 felony charges. It's not even being discussed." Seriously? You literally bring it up every opportunity you get. Thank god we have you to remind us daily, or else we all surely would have forgotten. He's a young man who made a mistake. He'll be punished when the court system gets around to it. You're beginning to come off like you just want to see a young black man burn. It's not a good look.

[@rickybaker42]

I am equally sick of Florio bringing it up, but I sincerely doubt it’s a race thing. He’s a legal guy and I think his opinion is probably that law and order are better preserved the more deterrence there is for crime. He probably thinks we need more than legal consequences, at the very least bring it up more if we want young reckless kids to take things more seriously. I just don’t think that’s how kids minds work all the time, so it’s not that effective, PLUS none of us want to hear about it 24/7. That’s why it’s not a bigger story

[@816KC]

Soon as he said felonies, I knew I was done. Florio spends his time hating. It's shows his insecurity. Don't know why he wants chuefs to fall off so bad!!

[@642lin]

I really think they had big plans for Hollywood Brown and lost him right before the season starts.

[@mhkangler]

Horrifying? Florio is a toolbox. Innocent until proven guilty genius. No one can do anything until the legal process is finished.

[@killachaos1208]

Florio is a terrible host and always gotta bring up Rice's bad moment like it defines who he is or something. He also acting like he doesn't know how the legal and NFL process works.

[@isaacwillis725]

They want you to shut up not be quiet. Because you don’t stop over exaggerating it

[@myriadcorp]

That wasn't a drop by Kelce because the defender punched it out of his hands. It was a good play by the defense.

[@jaysonsmith7264]

it was definitely a drop. kelce a couple years ago catches that every time

[@jaysonsmith7264]

@Tkjbj4ever u can tell u guys havent really watched travis kelce

[@loganleroy8622]

@@jaysonsmith7264 it’s not a drop, though, if the defender punches it out before you can complete the catch.

[@dreamchaser7603]

It’s crazy how people talk about the Chiefs as if they are loosing. They are 3:0 and last two games were intense and fun to watch unlike many other games in the league that are nearly tolerable!

[@dracowuhan7536]

You have to look at wins the same way you look at losses. Chiefs have played terrible and are 3:0 but they cannot sustain this, especially in the red zone

[@AlchemicalAudio]

Kelce is gonna put up 500 yards during the season and 400 yards in the playoffs.

[@Bone89]

Florio - "if you're aunt had balls, she'd be your uncle"

[@SDC509BowmanDeal]

Hmm, this has taken over Florio's obsession with Mahomes' salary....I wonder when that will come up again?

[@thatstheway2429]

I’m sure it’ll be time for Andy to retire soon

[@travelswithbenny3328]

Good one! And so true!

[@kwl6977]

Hey,Mike, why don't say something about Sean Payton stealing pain meds? The F_I and NFL covered it up! Go check that out why don't you!

[@buddysteele7624]

Mike “Look…” Florio. Mike would compare the Chiefs to the kid who doesn’t study for a test and still gets a good grade. He’s such a nerd. Who ever studied for tests??

[@francisdarko8647]

Its LITERALLY off the field activities.. Why would they bring it up during the game broadcast?

[@kelleyconway2154]

Pat refused to throw to Travis Kelce 12 times, wide open, he even ran past wide open Kelce to avoid throwing to him. FACTS. Why?

[@rickybaker42]

My theory is they probably don’t want Kelce taking more hits than necessary because they are trying to save him for later in the season.

[@patrickdickinson6313]

Sounds like he's your fantacy tight end

[@evosmith12]

They are mentioning the charges for Rice

[@mannymonte2]

Florio is a the biggest chiefs hater

[@dustinklehr]

They're waiting for it to go to court. How is that so hard to understand, its not the first time the NFL has waited to suspend a guy. Really they usually do unless it involves domestic stuff.

[@Indomitablespirit108]

You can now street race in Texas! RiceRule in effect!

[@ben98_669]

What do you want them to say? Yeah rice has learn the offense well but we haven’t forget that he wrapped his Lamborghini

[@samgiesing2966]

Klecce is an athlete and a actor. Come on man... Are you not entertained 😂

[@benjaminwachold3736]

I’m surprised 😮 but glad that Rice did not get suspended this year. He is the WR1 until Hollywood Brown comes back to play.

[@randy7928]

We don't need Kelce in September, we need him fresh and healthy in January. That being said, he needs to quit shaving and letting Taylor spray tan him. He looks more like Ryan Reynolds than Travis Kelce. If he wanted to turn himself into a Ken doll he should've retired with his brother.

[@lukejacobs2486]

IM SAYING, BUT IM NOT SAYING. ITS JUST WEIRD what an insightful remark

[@EuphoricBrothers2025]

Show em Travis! You're the man.

[@thomasking4031]

No broadcaster is mentioning the felony charges against Rashee Rice because if they did they’d more likely than not be called a racist or prejudiced so it’s just a lot easier to not say anything at all and avoid the aggravation and potential suspension or firing

[@brendathompson5448]

Yes,PLEASE stop double teaming Travis and then he will smoke their butts. He has been open several times this season and didn't get the ball through to him. Travis still loves the game & he is still a force to be reckoned with.

[@tyfly86]

The next Jerry is #4

[@hartless_hunter3756]

Jerry rice was a known cheater. Used pine tar on gloves entire career

[@jackkylejr.1112]

I'm thinking that the NFL should wait until all legal implications should play out before the NFL does anything on anyone. Because more always comes out during the legal process. And, sometimes the legal process is enough of a punishment.

[@Mr.Hall3850]

Starting to question Simms and his “film” watching. Kelce was breaking Bates ankles all night but Mahomes was hitting Rashee instead. He easily could have had a great game. The offense doesnt work when Mahomes starts to force passes. On top of that, Mahomes is still getting in the grove of things clearly.

[@GloryBrown-jp6nd]

Travis is too nice to Mahomes he always spoke nice things about him and take up for him

[@deliliankramo7520]

Thé Chiefs need to call the Browns to get Amari Cooper. Cooper will be a dependable guy on 3rd down and in the red zone. Pat never had a pure route runner Coop will be a great addition.

[@Brando_1212]

Florio let’s not worry about the suspension until next season, rice is on my fantasy team

[@dadottetv9037]

Florio still butt hurt about rice

[@thatstheway2429]

I usually like Simms a lot but he’s talking about this team like they’re 1-2. They’re 3-0 and just beat 3 projected playoff teams. With the Chiefs, the only things that matter are: - seeding (and even then lol) - keeping 15 healthy - keeping 95 healthy - being able to protect 15 in January - and saving 87 for when it actually matters Winning big or winning ugly in September counts the same. It’s a win. This isn’t college football.

[@jtylermusic]

Too much Swift...too much party going, too much limelight...not enough working with his team. Bellichick had it right..."DO YOUR JOB".

[@JohnClarkW]

At some point they will screw up and double Rice, and Kelce will tear them apart. There are a few really good safeties that match up well against him, but he played fairly mediocre most of last year, but showed up in Jan. and Feb. Patrick is the one that seems to be off this year.

[@PeggyNash-u6o]

Correction: Travis turned 36 October 5th.

[@nickim6571]

Travis turns 35 this year.

[@diewelle8024]

My dynasty league messed up letting me draft Rice at 2.09 in the rookie draft to stack him with Mahomes 😴

[@rungy8214]

One thing to remember...this did happen in Texas....not Tax-A-Fornia.....

[@juliehodge2831]

The answer is yes! Travis is open he gets himself open like usual! Patrick wants to pad his stats! They were down last year, and so it's all on him this year! They have about 6 or more recievers all down field that he can throw to so he doesn't have to use Travis! He doesn't even look at Travis! Travis has always had to work to get open, and he does! What's hurting the team is not using Travis, and that's what is hurting! Patrick isn't even looking at Travis! Come on, Patrick, quit blaming Travis!

[@michaelszewczyk9781]

The NFL should have just told Florio "we always make judgement after the law sorts it out".

[@Artcollecta]

Chiefs can overcome many mistakes and still win.. more than any other team, and their ceiling is high af if not the highest

[@szn1580]

Florio has sleepless nights thinking about what milk rashee rice is drinking and when he’ll be arrested lmao

[@williewright9430]

Florio is a certified Chiefs hater 👎

[@wessowell6616]

What do you mean nobody is talking about it?! Literally everyone is talking about it! You can’t change the past so we are just waiting for it to play out in court. It’s on the docket for October of 2025 so what are we supposed to do? Are we expected to mention it ever time his name comes up for the next 14 months? Don’t be ridiculous. He is JUST NOW starting to be asked football questions by reporters and not questions about his legal matters.

[@81suze]

Kids who don’t study don’t get As. You underestimate the kid.

[@rockhound100bopd]

So Florio, is Mahomes supposed to say "Rashee has been playing great, had some great catches underneath tonight! But, he has charges against him, so he's also a bad person." Are the supposed to mention it anytime the talk about Rice? Get real dude.

[@Drewswaggy]

35 is anxiety at any position in the nfl….. we all saw this coming especially with him dating t swift. And the success of this podcast……

[@WhoReads]

Florio is a disgrace. “The kid who doesn’t study “ EVERYONE is gonna give the Chiefs their best shot especially since they’re going for 3 straight. On top of that they’re without their #1 receiver, RB , and Travis has been taken out of the game.

[@rachelturner4320]

The league has spoken. They said they are waiting for the legal process to play out before making any decisions. So why can’t you? It’s pending we all know it. I sure hope your children never make a bone headed decision. You give no grace. He will face his punishment when it’s time. You bringing it up every 5 minutes will not change it.

[@cliffordbass7007]

Florio stop! Stop talking about this case stop stop stop stop

[@nathanglover9255]

It was a traffic accident. Not a mass shooting, not an assault on a spouse, not physically, abusing his child not illegally betting on games.. a traffic accident he will be punished when he gets punished✌🏾

[@isaacwillis725]

Florio’s takes are pretty bad. It presumes control by one team. Or a lack of preparation to the utmost. Theres always more to it than that. But that’s what the media does. They take one thing that’s true and broad stroke the situation with it and act like that’s all that is happening. It’s bad journalism but it sells

[@EnterpriseNCC-1701]

I can tell Simms wants to tell his boss Florio to "put a sock in it." Obviously, Rice messed up, but constantly reminding people about his legal issues is not doing anyone any good. It's like Florio wants Rice ushered out in public with head bowed with hands in shackles awaiting public flogging every Sunday after a Chief's game.

[@martinwalker4320]

Literally see someone driving over 100 mph everyday omw to work! Not saying it’s right, but it is common. But anyway, what more could be said about it? We know the charges, we know the court dates and we know he’ll most likely be suspended next year! Wtf else is it to discuss?!

[@K-rodge]

Next week against the Chargers this will be put to rest 😂.. Same story every year

[@scruffd0g193]

Media just doesn’t get it. Kelce has 2 or 3 defenders on him all the time. Also Florio is just a Karen.

[@eungjukim9257]

Is Simms crazy? Driving like that is OK unless someone is died or seriously injured?

[@dracowuhan7536]

Chris is so fucking done with florio talking about rice. How bout we put a name tag on Rashee rice saying “I crashed a car to people while going fast and have 8 felony charges” just so everyone knows that’s he’s not just a great receiver

[@jlsajulan]

Don't worry Florio, he'll get his suspension and he will pay...Why bring it up all year long at every game and bring his confidence down? Do you want reporters and commentators to remind him every week?

[@thunder188]

Give it a rest Florio…… I’m not even a Chiefs fan!

[@ryanwhite9437]

You penalize a player for his actions. Not what could have happened. Florio is unrelenting with this Rashee rice stuff. He WILL face suspension once the legal process plays out. Don't you worry Florio.

[@user-retsailor]

Not seeing why the Kelce catches matter ! All he needs is a few great catches ALL season. Meanwhile, look at the person or persons he is attracting to him for coverage; meanwhile, Rice, Worthy and Smith-Shuster becomes more available. So tell me how that is not smart ! Kelce owns maybe all the records by all Tight Ends and, IMO, the only thing he is chasing now is a 3peat. I think he retires either way after this season. No real sense to keep playing at age 35. Besides that, Andy Reid is just playing around this early in the season. All they have to do is win enough to get into the playoffs and by then, they will be hitting on all cylinders, just like last year. Too much early season analysis. And yes, the Bills are playing good. Can they win in the playoffs tho !?

[@PatriciaCirucci]

Should not be allowed to play until after court trial.

[@Sayuri-cr8cy]

Florio, you sound like the parents at the playground complaining about other people’s kids to their parents

[@bryanreed3559]

How is rice allowed to play with his felony charges?

[@GloryBrown-jp6nd]

Mahomes trying to make Kelce look bad he's not a friend to Kelce. Mahomes it's no good he thinks he's the greatest. He will get hurt this season and be out because God doesn't like how he's treating his best friend.Travis what do anything for Mahomes he is a true friend like

[@tylerstuart9196]

I hope that he's not like that and still loves football.

[@middevil]

Dont double Kelce then and see what happens lol

[@KingSolomon88]

I think Florio you need to let the legal process play it course. This's so ridiculous by you. You bring this matter every time , you're talking a bout the Chiefs. Basically in your opinion Rashee Rice is already guilty and need to be send to prison.

[@sdub7045]

Kelce is older AND hes not focused on the game anymore.

[@heatherc2059]

Weird ? Word salad? Felony charges? Sounds like the current presidential race.

[@johnwalter5875]

No. Kelce is Still The Dude

[@dbmagee21]

It's not like Rice has 34 felonies and running for president. He plays football.

[@isaacwillis725]

When you drink and party your body will go downhill much more quickly. That’s where the drop offs are. Not for those who are spending tons of money on the health and bodies and eating cleanly like TB12. So he will retire after this year most likely unless he isn’t actually going downhill in his health. But it’s very unlikely. He drinks and parties and is everywhere in every commercial.

[@NatureBoii99]

Does Florio want his charges brought up on every catch?