Has The "EV Revolution" Finally Reached Peak Idiocy? Looks Like It Has

[@christophergonzales7876]

It’s called Fascism Uncle Tony 🫨

[@RoverWaters]

no

[@UncleTonysGarage]

Nah.....really? I couldn't find that word when I went looking for descriptions of different types of governments listed on official U.S. govt. pages. Next you're gonna tell me about some silly things that happened in 1871......

[@robbsclassics]

Didn't some Italian guy say, "Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power."?

[@anthropicandroid4494]

​​@@robbsclassicsyes, and notice that he's using the true definition of a corporatist state: Plato's totalitarianism, written centuries before the concept of a corporation, which is corporatist, but importantly not a state

[@SuperUnknown1967]

😂

[@garryrichardson4572]

Toyota were being mocked for their slow move towards electrification but they knew all along the volatility of the battery. Their own hybrid move with just enough battery and not packing them in too tight has always been the right move.

[@thomascunningham111]

Lithium-ion batteries contain a FLAMMABLE electrolyte that can result in fire or even explosions if they are punctured, damaged, or heated. ------ The electrodes are submerged in a liquid called an electrolyte, which allows for the movement of ions and consists of lithium salt and organic solvents. It is these ORGANIC solvents which are the leading fire hazard in Li-ion batteries.

[@walterdayrit675]

Toyota wants to take the hydrogen fuel cell route right?

[@kimmokannala4576]

Dead company. Sad, kind of.

[@christopher6161]

​@@kimmokannala4576 Toyota is far from dead. They are the only car company worth buying something new from today that isn't loaded with poor engineering and poor manufacturing. They are still the best selling cars on Earth. Hybrid supremacy.

[@airborneadventurer]

The early NiMh Toyota hybrid packs were the pinnacle of battery technology in terms of reliability. I just rebuilt one for my new to me 2001 Prius. No coded components. Check engine lights disappeared as soon as I turned the key on and it’s been flawless ever since. I bought like-new cells from a wrecked Prius for pennies on the dollar. 177k miles on the original battery cells from 2001. There is a reason why Toyota is building their 2024 Land Cruiser with a NiMh battery. 20 years from now if they hold up, I’d like to own one.

[@2ToneWalt]

The right to repair is a very important thing to people, the farmers are having the same dispute with John Deere.

[@retrotech383]

My dad is a technician at a john deere shop. I get the feeling they try to make it as hard as possible for the farmers but as easy as possible for the techs. The tractors call the shop automatically without the farmer even knowing something went wrong. I have no idea how much access to repair farmers have here in Sweden, might be a law to support it? Probably should ask pops.

[@pauljones2031]

Right to repair applies across the entire consumer product board. There's lots of things you can't even get parts for after it's 5 yrs old. Europe is way ahead of us in this aspect.I agree on the overly complex electric vehicles being stupid. Volkswagen is offering an ev next yr in the US for $28 000, basic a to b car. That's what people need.

[@timothydockery534]

I thought I seen were the farmers won the case

[@johnpublic6582]

@@timothydockery534 Yes, they won the case and gained nothing. Because politicians.

[@Hedonistic0Frog]

@@pauljones2031 Manufacturers targeted the luxury car market first because it wasn't cost effective to produce cheap electric vehicles. It's easier to justify the expensive batteries if it's already expensive overall.

[@SM-ii8pg]

I work for a jeep dealership, and the amount of people that come in during the winter (New England) because they're only getting an hour or two of charge when it's cold (basically 6 months of the year) is staggering.

[@richardcranium3579]

Lock your doors. Get your firearm out. They will come for you to make you stay quiet. Criminals and fascists do not like the truth. You just told the truth.

[@Watchmedome3017]

I’m from CT and i was working at the jeep dealership as well and the amount of EV jeeps coming in with check engine lights for HV Battery coolant heaters is crazy! We have a backlog 😂then if they drive it too long the battery pack gets damage it won’t charge then it’s a full battery pack replacement

[@SM-ii8pg]

@@Watchmedome3017 That too. There also seems to be a common issue with a few of the harnesses that run between the two as well.

[@Hybridknfgrowchannel]

As an eletrical engineer all the extra aluminum wiring running to these charge stations plus the wired charger are generating immense DRAW absolutely destroying our grid

[@Watchmedome3017]

@@SM-ii8pg also once the update is done the super long update for the idcm all them shits a day later that code for the coolant battery heater code pops up lol 😂oh and especially when lifted jeeps come in they have a lot of differential codes and it’s usually the differential harness being stretched and the wires break internally lol

[@stavrosk.2868]

Before I went to university to study linguistics, I had studied electromechanics. Internal combustion engines are pearls of ingenuity and efficiency, more than a century of intense development by the best engineers. It is crazy to dump this fantastic technology for the green madness and obsession.

[@typhoon320i]

Pearl of efficiency? 20-40% efficiency is pretty bad. The other 60-80% is heat and noise

[@technolung]

​@@typhoon320iFrom October to April, heat is a feature not a bug

[@typhoon320i]

@@technolung only if you live in a cold climate.

[@gorkyd7912]

@@typhoon320i The efficiency of turning the potential energy in the fuel into motion may be 20% but if you look at the overall picture, how much effort does it take to get that fuel into the car? It's like solar panels, they may be only 20% efficient but that's OK when they're just sitting there in the sun doing nothing.

[@MariktheWolf]

the sound is part of the fun...@@typhoon320i

[@malibuStroker]

Klaus said they want 75% of the vehicles on the road gone… they don’t want an EV in every driveway. They want the common man in his 15 minute city using public transportation, and the only people with their own car will be the elites. These auto makers are willingly on board with their own extinction. That is peak idiocy.

[@ripvanrevs]

In other words, they want people to live like they did in the 1950s.

[@jopete681]

@@ripvanrevsno in the 1920’s!!!

[@topgunpressurecleaning8930]

We are the carbon they want to get rid of.

[@johnmarshall3903]

Old Klaus can eat 💩

[@akaHermanSnerd]

You will own nothing and you’ll be happy.

[@deoblo5656]

Glad you said it out loud. It is lunacy. The power grid can't handle it, yet it still gets pushed. It's nuts!!

[@coldspring22]

Not an EV fan, but Tony's arguments against EV is very sloppy. Why can't he criticize Tesla fanboys and their Tesla EVs they are driving? Point out how they are suffering so much from driving an EV and not knowing it? Can't go there huh? About the China EVs parked out in the field, these are early model EVs which were abandoned in the field when the company which owned them (usually ride sharing companies) went out of business. It's not like they just manufactured them and dumped them.

[@Mike-hn4uu]

@@coldspring22what are you talking about? Every Tesla driver I know absolutely loves their car and won’t go back to gas. If gas prices don’t change I’ll probably be joining them as much as I love my 5.7 HEMI (which I’ll never get rid of). What is this conspiracy theory you’re failing to put down in writing that’s floating around in your head?

[@Superabound2]

​​@@coldspring22because people buy Teslas just because it's a Tesla, not because they're pretending to save the environment. They buy them just because they're "cool"

[@markmccarty9793]

It's useless to give these nut the facts! The educational system indoctrinated your kids while we were working our asses of to get them a fresh start to adulthood! In total, 81% of the electricity produced in America comes from burning hydrocarbon based fuels! A full 50% comes from burning coal! Clean energy? The power grid won't even support a switch to full electric automobiles!! Jackasses!

[@mustangracer5124]

So does illegal immigration

[@Tommy_Mac]

I've seen several eye opening EV videos. Those mostly white cars seen parked in fields in China were purchased by a rental car company that was given a grant by the government to buy them. After a year of use the distance they could go went from 100 down to 20 miles. They couldn't rent them out. The manufacturer refused to repair them. So they sit there. Meanwhile similar grants were given for communities to replace their ICE buses. They scrapped their fleets, took out loans for the balance of the cost. Most buses need expensive battery replacements after 2 years. The communities are stuck paying back loans for buses that are out of service. It is also a regular occurrence for cars and buses to go up in flames, often so quickly passengers are killed. They are very difficult or impossible to put out. I'm told the electrolyte in lihium batteries is flammable. I'm all for new technology, but this stuff is flat-out sh*t.

[@maddhatter3564]

We are artificially rushing the EV. as i said before it has to be organic, If EVs are so great then why do they need to be forced on people?

[@Tommy_Mac]

@@maddhatter3564 I don't disagree with you. I think the hoopla over Tesla is overblown. Their stock really shouldn't be where it is. I think the Musk fanboys have a lot to do with that. The initial operating costs of EVs are also hooking in buyers. The problem is the batteries have a finite life, are very pricey, and go boom every now and again. I'm not sure the average consumer recognizes that.

[@barackblows1942]

@@Tommy_MacThe average American is a moron. FJB 🖕🇨🇳

[@fishkluch]

Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if hydrogen takes over for long distance trucking at some point. Lithium ion energy density sucks ass and won't be able to charge fast enough

[@Eduardo_Espinoza]

It's actually impossible to put out, that they actually protocol to just wait for it to go out on its own

[@justinecooper9575]

IMO, the push to EVs is to control who can travel and when they can travel.

[@justinstewart3248]

Lolol ok dude. It’s just a car. That’s it. You’re already controlled more than you’d like to think, mostly by the very phone you typed this message into.

[@eddarby469]

I believe it is much more than that. They want us to have less energy per person. They are happy to have us all convert to elec vehicles, but they don't intend to increase the elec grid. We will have to decide what we'll give up if we want to drive. If we want more power, we will have to buy our own solar systems.

[@wannabecarguy]

Politicians only know how to ram things down the throats of the people. They never ask.

[@gb123-ej8wh]

Yep, make everyone dependent on electric charging and turn off the power for a few days and they won’t have the juice to drive away when the buses to the work camps pull into the neighborhood.

[@davidiverson]

"The only thing I love more than internal combustion engines, is common sense". Couldn't have said it better. Hope this is your next t-shirt slogan, Uncle Tony!

[@Eduardo_Espinoza]

I'm glad that he's using the "common sense" phrase right back at them

[@VictorTasTimpieces]

The authorities are pushing Evs onto an unsuspecting public to control the masses! Also, why isn't mainstream media not reporting on the dangers associated with EVs e.g, catching on fire, the expense and short life of the battery, the fallacy that they are sustainable (green)! It's reported one has to travel 75,000 kilometers to cover the cost of production and pollution of manufacturing an ev! If you take into account the battery life of 10 years, therefore the cost of replacing batteries would negate any gains! Another problem I see is; just say we all drove EVs...what strain would that place on the grid? The other question I'd like answered and no one is discussing is Electro magnetic radiation or sitting on a Electro magnetic field! Is it safe? In summary the authorities are not transparent...there is a considerable amount of misinformation on MSM re safety of EVs so please beware!

[@markbonner1139]

I remember my Dad, in the late '60s,saying,"common sense,ain't so common anymore"!Was right then,even more-so now!!!

[@stevemitz4740]

@@markbonner1139 As Dr. Jordan Peterson just found out, "If you don't use the Godless Satan inspired/ common narrative, you will be gaslighted & lose your abelites do business in the market place! i.e. book of Relation stuff!

[@siral2000]

@@markbonner1139 Sounds like he had some "uncommon" sense to see the increase of senseless nonsense.

[@bendeleted9155]

Perfect timing. I've had the same observations and sentiments. I do 800 miles in 12 hours in one car, and tow with the other. Can't do EV. Don't want to be forced to.

[@thomaswalters4365]

Then don't.... Fight back.

[@bendeleted9155]

@@thomaswalters4365 let's see..."then don't fight back". Hmmm...🤔. Yeah, I got nothing, but noted. 👍

[@kimmokannala4576]

I have 350km range with biogas (zero emissions) and then extended to 700 via gasoline. If I could afford an EV, 300km range would be enough for me to not needing to stop to "refuel" almost ever.

[@senioraces]

100%

[@melvynwoodman5787]

I retired from a working life in vehicle design 6 years ago and can remember ‘knowing’ that the future of road transport was hydrogen fuel cells powering electric drive. This was back in the mid 1990s and the only problem was driving down the cost which we all assumed would happen shortly. What we also ‘knew’ was that batteries were very unlikely to ever be viable due to weight bulk and charging time. Batteries have improved somewhat since then but realistically still need to improve in all of these areas by a factor of 100 and also be made from something cheap and plentiful as well as environmentally friendly. I don’t see that happening yet our overlords are mandating them. The only conclusion I can make is that they don’t want us to have personal transport at all. Very sinister.

[@illreportbackinabit.8514]

They want to meld us into the Matrix and serve them.

[@tabbott429]

Tesla proves you wrong with their cars. they dominate in performance , safety, efficiency and cost of ownership ( long term). Hydrogen will never happen for cars. Its inefficient and to complex for cars

[@SweatyFatGuy]

That's exactly what is wanted and intended. Along with vastly fewer people

[@OllamhDrab]

@@SweatyFatGuy If you want there to be more people, those of us already here do need to be less wasteful or there'll be *less* even without your imaginary conspiracies otherwise.

[@SweatyFatGuy]

@@OllamhDrab when they say they want drastically fewer people i tend to believe them. You assume lots of things without evidence, such as me wanting more people. My concern is the method of reducing the population. I'll be deceased in 10 to 25 years, so it doesn't matter much to me how many of us there are after that. But i don't want to get zeroed out to serve some maniacal leftist cult. I'd also rather my kids don't either. I'm ambivalent about you being evicted from your meat suit... along with most people

[@ElektroCuration]

I wasn’t anti-EV until big brother started pushing the half-baked tech on me and the rest of the world! “Do not comply” is becoming my new mantra

[@gb123-ej8wh]

I’m not anti EV but I’m anti government telling me what to buy and what to put in my body

[@brianpencall4882]

The tech is not close to half baked.

[@bigjohn2811]

Saving the planet one fire at a time

[@jamescameron6819]

One out of control chemical fire at a time😂

[@wigletron2846]

It'll create new coral reefs lol

[@KT4RAM]

Remember the extreme cold spell that we had earlier this year? There was a guy on KZbin who is an EV enthusiast. He was trying to drive home to Denver from I believe it was Nebraska. He kept trying to find a charger that would work at several different EV Charging Stations on his route. All of the newer chargers would act like they were going to charge the car after confirming the connection. None of them would charge in that cold weather. He had to use the older slow chargers to get any amount of charge. He tried a lot of different stations on his route and experienced the same error issues at every one of them. I like to gas n go when I have to travel anywhere.

[@stephenburnage7687]

The thing often forgotten about batteries is that they rely on a chemical reaction and that is affected by ambient temperature. EV's are fine as a second vehicle in Southern California but have no place in a Massachusetts or Maine winter.

[@walterdayrit675]

The new, safer sodium ion batteries would solve that issue.

[@markmccarty9793]

I live in South Carolina, it doesn't get too cold!

[@ronfox5519]

Haha. Seems like it would be easy enough to install battery heaters on anything that has a battery. Especially while you're at the charger. What do they do for cabin heat and a/c? Is it adequate? Does it allow for heating or cooling the cabin before you get in the car?

[@shadovanish7435]

The a/c & heat systems are powered by the car's battery, which is discharged at an accelerated rate when these systems are used, in addition to the battery discharge due to driving.

[@y2kxj]

The EV is not about the environment, it’s about the ability to restrict the movement..

[@Kevin_Knox]

It's about "virtue signaling" that you're concerned about the environment.

[@blackscotydog]

This whole Ev thing is to push us back to the days before Henry Ford invented the model t when only rich people could own cars

[@ronschlorff7089]

@@Kevin_Knox Exactly! I recall the days when the Prius was the "new kid" on the block, was it 2010 or something? It was nick-named, by old farts like me and Tony, the "Pious", because people where so righteous about "saving, the planet". LOL. I go back a ways to my college days and shortly after Earth Day in the 1970's. Lots of great bumper stickers from that era. Some of my favorites were: "Save the Whales, Collect the Whole Set", and topically for this discussion, and then, because of ZPG being a thing, "Save the World, Kill Yourself!! That has to be my favorite, and still works for today I guess, particularly for liberals!! .....Just kidding, ....sort of!! LOL ;D

[@andyburk4825]

'Nuke the Gay Whales ' was another - just an awful sentiment .@@ronschlorff7089

[@benmopar]

Smart cities, 15 minute and lockdown mile limits like Melbourne Australia

[@What.its.like.]

Common sense is DEAD this generation... so much can be said stupidity has manifested into ignorance. To that point they can see everything that is happening with EVS and all of their shortcomings and yet still say it’s the future. Love your channel, and perspectives

[@ADAMH924]

About 4 years ago i was forced to purchase a "newer more reliable mode of transportation" by the powers that be at my job due to a particular situation that happened at work and partly due to family constraints. My daily driver at the time was a 1986 Chevy K5 Blazer M1009 former military truck with a diesel. During the winter months I would have to plug the truck in to run a block heater to keep the oil from gelling up. On 2 occasions i was pulled into the managers office and reprimanded for using company power to power my trucks block heater. Well after being told that I would be let go if I were to do it again, I purchased a new vehicle that didnt require a plug in block heater. I purchased and now drive a Honda, Not an EV. A couple months later, I find out that my company was going to be installing 2 "free public use" EV charge stations at the companies home/main office building plaza. Now keep in mind, these charger stations use just as much if not more amps and watts than most commercially available welders on the market today. My block heater, uses less amps and watts than a household toaster. An old school toaster. The kind that you stick 2 slices of bread in, from the top, and push down on a lever to turn it on. They usually go "Ding" and the freshly toasted bread pops up when finished. Im not taking about a toaster oven mind you, just an old style toaster. I'm miffed to say the least at this point. I ask for another meeting with the manager and presented him with more detailed info than what I explained above. I asked him why and how it was alright for random folks driving EV's, and not necessarily employees of the company either, could be allowed to use 10 fold the company power than that of mysel or my truck. I was promptly dismissed from his office and given the BS excuse that the company is trying to be progressive with regards to the vehicles being seen within the confines of the parking lot, and taking a proactive stance within the EV Cultural Movement. The kicker is that I've never parked at or within the office lot. Ever since I started working for this company, the only place that I have parked at was the in the back of the equipment yard lot because that is where my shop is located. In the end, its all bureaucratic BS.

[@joeshu3769]

I watched a PBS documentary about switching a school to total solar. They raved about not having to pay another electric bill and the savings per month. Finally at the end they told how much it cost, and they only said it one time. The cost of the project would have taken 98 years to pay for it in electric bill savings. But in 98 years they would have had to replace the equipment a couple of times, so it was a huge loss to go to solar.

[@gorkyd7912]

It would probably cost 1/3 that much for a normal human to install solar. Just so happens that people have figured out that schools get free money from the government therefore construction charges whatever it wants.

[@kimber1911]

Regarding the container ship, think of the new shipping regulations that are bound to come. Each EV will have to be shipped in a special fire proof container and with a six foot clearance all around it. Now supply chain costs skyrocket and the vehicles become even more unaffordable for the average person.

[@windsurfertx1]

According to the salvage company the EVs on board appear to be undamaged. Cause of the fire on the Fremantle Highway is yet to be determined. See the article in Automotive Logistics. It’s easy to jump to conclusions. There is a lot of EV hate out there perhaps by OEMs being forced into making EVs by the government. BTW it is the OEMs that have had the self combsting fires. Ie the Chevy Bolt owners being told to park them on the street not in their garage.

[@richardcranium3579]

@@windsurfertx1we have investigated ourselves and found nothing wrong…… See that word? The F one. Forced. When someone forces you to do something for fraudulent reasons…..tends to piss one off.

[@hugegamer5988]

Far simpler to just regulate it so all EV batteries are easily replaceable, then ship them separately. Not only is the problem solved, it will lower the cost of batteries and make it easy to repair. Plus does away with most of the costs in an accident when it can simply be exchanged for a refurbished model labor will be cheap and easy.

[@drrick8839]

Tony is a remarkable person. He’s a hell of trouble shooter/analyst. But what really strikes me is his breadth of knowledge and his ability to see all the pieces of a problem along with the ability to tie them all together regardless of how unrelated they may appear. I spent 18 years in school culminating in a MBA. Tony can keep up with and surpass most if not all the professors I had. This guy is a gem. If you have any sense at all you’ll listen to him as carefully as you can. It’s amazing what he can teach you!

[@jimksa67]

Christ said the Last Days would be perilous- that's where the real issues are. You best think about your Heavenly transport!

[@billfioretti3013]

A few months ago on the day of the grand unveiling of electric powered buses in the State of Connecticut, one of the buses burned to the ground. Ironically, the bus that caught fire was the bus that just hours before was on display in my hometown and viewed by State dignitaries and introduced as one of our new CT. Department of Public Transportation vehicles. The plan was that a fleet of electric buses would soon be replacing our conventional ones. The bus on display burned to the ground on the open lot where it was parked and lauded by the dignitaries only hours before. Our brave and excellent Fire Department personell could only stand back and watch as an effort to extinguish the burning mass would be futile.(It is said it takes ten to twenty thousand gallons of water dispensed over many hours just to quell an EV passenger car fire.) Fortunately, injuries were collateral and were minor. Many EV supporters and government reps. were left with egg on their faces. Many of them said, "Don't jump to conclusions as to the cause of the fire. It might have not been the fault of the batteries." Well, after many weeks hence the investigation, forensic analysis determined that water trapped in a battery cell caused the meltdown. It will be a while before Connecticut has a fleet of Electric buses in service. WE CAN JUST BE THANKFUL THAT THE BUS WASN'T IN SERVICE AND THAT IT WASN'T AN OFT TALKED ABOUT ELECTRIC POWERED SCHOOL BUS... My opinion as a car guy and engineer? Pursue and refine Hydrogen power for a cleaner, practical future.

[@mpetersen6]

And just how far back in the past did cities in Connecticut have trolley buses?

[@jakefriesenjake]

Yup, they tracked it down to a water drop in the battery. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. After the disaster, I'm sure it stuck out like a sore thumb. Ha ha ha ha ha ha. They just "said" that, to sound SMRT.

[@billfioretti3013]

@@mpetersen6 Trolleys are powered by overhead electricals. No batteries for trolley movement on board.

[@peterdarr383]

@@billfioretti3013 Yeah - - no weight of the batteries to lug around and work against the brakes, no charging losses, no fire hazards and powered by a "remote" polluter that would have chimney scrubbers.

[@maxfolio940]

How i see it is that future hydrogen combustion engine will be the choice, with fusion reactors hydrogen will be plenty. But the thing is co2 is not an issue it is actually essential for life on earth. Increasing Co2 causing warming on critical rate is not true. There has been plenty of much more hotter periods of 6-8C globally (compared to 0.5-1C increase measured now in 200y) multiple times im clear cycles last 800 000y time period. Humans did not cause these global temperature cycles, most important factors for climate are sun activity, amount of cloud coverage and temperature of the seas. Co2 is not important parameter in this. As engineer you should realise this, however it is good to reduce the local emissions coming from tail pipe as it directly affects millions of ppl air quality and cause health issues. However some alternative fuels like ammonia are not very good option as it is still made from fossil fuel and is toxic. As such improving diesel and gasoline combustion and aftertreatment in my mind is best option for now until we have plentiful hydrogen infrastructure.

[@charlesschultz658]

My biggest concern with ev's is that anything battery powered is rubbish. My ram truck is almost twenty years old and has a 1/4 million miles and the fuel tank is not worn out or lost capacity.

[@Jonathan_Doe_]

They tend to lose about 5% capacity in the first 5 years then settle at that. There’s plenty of first gen model S still going.

[@usd25674]

Yep and I can fill my tank in five minutes or so , while buying a cup of coffee.

[@kirya312]

@Jonathan_Doe_ That's just impossible. Those are the same lithium batteries, just a bunch of 18350 cells stacked together like in the old laptop batteries. They will degrade the same way...

[@OllamhDrab]

The problem with anything being 'rubbish' is build quality, not so much what it's *supposed* to be.

[@tabbott429]

Lots of early Teslas still on the road with hundreds of thousand of mile on them. batteries and electric motors are improving at a rapid pace. My bosch cordless drill with Lithium batteries is over 20 years old and it still works with original batteries although they dont last as long per charge. Your Ram truck needs lots of maintenance to keep it going soon enough.

[@gfighter2400]

I’m really digging what you’re saying Tony. Right with you on all of this. Let EV’s come with time, not governmental pressure. In meantime I will enjoy my ICE powered vehicles.

[@joemaloney1019]

Hybrids are the future less batteries less engine , the way government should run, compromise.

[@bondgabebond4907]

EVs will be dead and buried while your ICE vehicle will keep on rolling. Even if my Jeep reached 1 million miles, I can do an engine swap. In an EV, I would be changing out the batteries. Where are the batteries going? Landfill? Engines are metal, they can be reduced to molten metal to make more engines or just about anything else. Batteries are a complete waste. Another fuel needs to be developed like hydrogen which, when burned, creates water. Talk about recycling.

[@AfrikanAssassin]

I've been saying this for the the longest time now since the "revolution" has started. Now I'm glad there are other people who see the issues as well.

[@norton750commando]

Two things. First, I worked in warehousing for over 40 years, and in all that time, we used electric vehicles every day, forklifts, reach/picking racking machines and pallet trucks(both ride on and walk beside). They were perfect for the jobs at hand, overnight charging for the forklifts and relatively easy change outs if required, and swappable batteries for the reach trucks. Simple lead acid batteries that were re-buildable/recyclable. The auto manufacturers need to somehow figure that type of battery flexibility into the vehicles. They also need to get away from marketing and developing EV's as luxury/performance items. Smaller vehicles that really don't need 4 second 0-60 times and computers that eat up far too much of the battery reserve, and batteries that can be swapped out at stations like a propane tank exchange. Second thing, is the environmental disaster that is going to be on us in a decade or so when all these hundreds of thousands of batteries have finally failed. One place I worked at was an electronics recycling facility, and I was the Compliance/Health & Safety Manager. Batteries were the one thing that caused us the most problems, from an environmental disposal standpoint, to the development of procedures for storage, physical processing, handling and shipment of the batteries. We dealt with about 2000 batteries a day, everything from AA dry cells, computer batteries, cell phone batteries to UPS lead acid batteries. We had two small fires, and both were from supposedly dead li-ion cells. Two of the downstream facilities that we sent our batteries for recovery processes actually burned down. Batteries scare the shit out of me to this day.

[@327JohnnySS]

Imagine what that does to the water table? The people who are environmentally concerned down stream have not thought this through. Check out the colbalt mining for cell phones and ev batteries. Human rights violations for a thousand Alex.

[@sucha603boy]

Li-ion is unstable, I have seen car accidents first hand where a battery caught fire and it’s like being near a giant welder it’s so intense. The fire departments don’t have the gear to put these out. The last one we had close by was a Tesla suv and one of the passengers died from burns

[@fishkluch]

Yeah hopefully something better comes along that's more stable and more robust than li-ion

[@BauregardSenior87]

firstly Co2 doesn't control the weather but if everyone is using one energy source in "smart" appliances and cars then whoever controls that energy and signal, controls your entire life. EVs are only about control

[@smolville]

They make a hydrogen battery for those warehouse forklifts that require no modifications. Only problem is they leave a trail of water and warehouse forklifts do not drive well on water.

[@michaelstansfield319]

Peak idiocy over EV's reached? Well, maybe for the public as they figure out the limitations and problems with EV's, but the government has chosen to not recognize the issues, so the government will continue to push EV's and elevate the idiocy.

[@waynemangan7200]

THats pretty much all thats happening in dem clown world

[@justinstewart3248]

Im a trump voting EV driver and it’s been the easiest transition I’ve ever done. It’s not a political party issue.

[@waynemangan7200]

I'm sorry, which party is pushing to ban ICE? Electric extremism is the issue.@@justinstewart3248

[@jeffromoto874]

Perfect overview. My concern like you mentioned is the ability to repair it yourself. Self reliance = freedom. Now we’re going back to the likes of proprietary systems before there was OBD 1 and 2. Way too much tech now.

[@PremiumFuelOnly]

The purpose of OBD was originally for uniform diagnostics of the emission systems. With EVs theres no emission system to diagnose, therefore some dont have it.

[@joseCalderon1976]

You will not be able to repair it yourself. Manufacturers like Tesla don't share that info with techs outside of the ones they control. That way they screw you over for life with overpriced labor. 🖕that. I have used vehicles that I do most of the repair and maintenance.

[@richardcranium3579]

Farmers just went through the whole “right to repair” thing with John Deere. It’s hell having to get permission to work on something that you “own”.

[@hugegamer5988]

It’s got nothing to do with EV, all car companies are trying to force everyone to only use their parts and repair services. BMW is just as bad as any EV car in that regard. Demand right to repair, it really should be a constitutional amendment.

[@mro9466]

I just loved how things went from: - do you really need a 427 cubic inch V8 ? a twin turbo V6 ? an 8000 rpm V12 ? - yeah, probably to: - we need to remove even the most basic, most reliable 4 cylinder engines !

[@crisp6383]

I lost my home and almost everything I owned to a ni-cad battery fire. The toxic nature of the fire was spectacular.

[@DanaTheInsane]

And if electric vehicles used NiCad batteries, that would mean something

[@patreilly1458]

To I hate stupid sign ups you are an idiot. Lithium Hydride batteries are now the new Ni Cad and they have been found to be deadly when they cook off. If you are one of these Tesla Fan Boys who is too stupid to realize that then I sure hope you know where the emergency door unlock system is in your Tesla. According to one Tesla owner that emergency system was all that saved him when the battery pack caught fire and the car burned down while he was in it. This guy reported that the electrical door openers and the electric windows DID NOT Function after the fire started and it was only after sitting there breathing toxic smoke for 45 seconds did he remember the sales guy pointing that feature out that he was able to escape the burning car.

[@macdaniel6029]

@@DanaTheInsane There are some cars with NiCd and lead-acid batteries. Most of them were made over 30 years ago. NiCd is not even remotely as dangerous as LiPo.

[@richardcranium3579]

@@DanaTheInsanethey use something much worse.

[@ne2i]

The batteries used today burn much hotter and at a lower ignition temperature.

[@Mr81smc]

Let the market dictate when and where EV's should be used

[@danw1089]

I’m anti ev , just to be clear

[@harvestblades]

Yeah I'm not a big fan either due largely to exploiting child labor to mine the materials for the batteries (Cobalt). But it makes tge ignorant feel better because they don't use fossil fuels!

[@billovers821]

Same.

[@chasebansai7396]

I would have to say EV doesn’t fit my lifestyle, or my finances.

[@marshmower]

EVs are cheap to produce. It's all about maximum profit. Where are those people on this. Sniffing glue more than likely...

[@Welcometofacsistube]

Same here

[@Riverguide33]

Tony….great commentary. Since the “EV revolution” is being pushed by bureaucrats, with the fervor of a religious cult, the path ahead, with its fatal flaws, is difficult for us. Yet, opportunities in “Old-school” automotive skills will be treasured in the years to come. 👍

[@typhoon320i]

Just like the skills of a blacksmith are so treasured today. There's a good buck in that racket.

[@philip5940]

That's it then , I'm going looking today for the blacksmithing tools and equipment

[@brianlopez8855]

Oh its a cult alright. You have got to believe.

[@BeenNoticing]

Whenever EV fires are a topic it is important to state that the infamous exploding Ford Pinto recall was over 23 car fires out of 2 million Pintos. If I remember, at the time 1 million Teslas had been sold, there were already over 80 autopilot crashes and / or car fires.

[@dianeathoacardinalridge8788]

You could say the same thing about V_x safety yet here we are. It’s about the money.

[@rdwilander]

Took a minute -haha- but you are on point ;)@@dianeathoacardinalridge8788

[@jeffhuntley2921]

Yea but math is rasisms sooo

[@fgoindarkg]

They have an agenda, it's not about money. It's about culling all the useless eaters.

[@fgoindarkg]

Musk is a government be agent, as is Gates. Howard Hughes was pretty useful to the intel industry. He had agency men in his inner circle.

[@ER-yq1lc]

I worked in the early EV industry, the bottleneck was always batteries and weight in relation to range and charge time. The new batteries are lighter but have their own set of problems. Also a battery is just a storage device, the actual power still needs to come from somewhere, same with hydrogen, it's not a power source, just another type of energy storage like a battery.

[@fishkluch]

Sounds like we need nuclear powered electric cars. Screw the pathetic energy density of batteries

[@TABRO284]

With a combustion engine the vehicle does not have to carry a portion of the fuel needed because it is in the air around the vehicle. That is a big advantage.

[@Eduardo_Espinoza]

We just need to fix the wasted heat problem with ice cars, maybe bring back turbine cars again?

[@Deploracle]

@@Eduardo_Espinoza Why? I don't understand this obsession with maximizing efficiency at all costs. We are already at the point of diminishing returns .. meaning it costs far more to squeeze another smidgen of efficiency than it's actually worth. It's difficult to justify spending a million dollars to save just a thousand.

[@Kenji1685]

Petrol is stored energy as well.

[@dkd1228]

A couple issues that folks need to keep in mind... 1. The energy to keep these batteries charged has to come from someplace. A large increase in the number of electric cars will require a bunch of additional kilowatt-hours that don't look like they will become available anytime soon (if ever). 2. Unlike the internal combustion engine (oxidizer is pulled from the atmosphere as needed), all the reactants needed to make things happen are in the batteries at the same time. If things go all wahoonie-shaped, get away quick.

[@schalkerasmus277]

The morons think other batteries can be used to recharge EV's. What does happen is that generators are used.

[@squirts1]

Yes, the energy comes from powerplants (or from local renewables or solar on your house)... but the truth is even if everyone in america transitioned to EVs overnight it would only increase the power demand by like 18%. That's really not all that much... and we aren't transitioning overnight. It would also reduce the power demand associated with fuel production, transportation, etc.

[@billharrison1785]

You really don't have a clue. Look at California. @@squirts1

[@TCBOT]

@@squirts1 wtf u on about 95kw battery gives about 300 miles of range if i charge that 6 times that 2x my power consumption per quarter electric bill lol

[@squirts1]

@@TCBOT what are YOU on about? Based on that phrase, I'm going to assume you are from uk or Australia or something... I'm talking about the USA. A base model Tesla model 3 has a 54kwh battery (kwh, not kw) and a 275 mile range. The average annual mileage is 12k - 15k. That's about 1100m / mo. Which means about 3.9 charges. That's a total of 212 kwh / mo. Average monthly power usage is 1000kwh/mo. Just quick math here but that's about 21%. For me it only adds about 10%. We don't drive much, but it costs me 3-4x more to fuel my vw TDI (getting 38mpg city and over 50mpg highway) than it does to charge a Tesla at home for driving the same distance.

[@TheStanford01]

Engineers are the only people who can solve the Worlds problems NOT STUPID POLITICIANS!!! You are one of the first people who I completely agree with in every respect. Keep up the good work.

[@jasonnielsen2125]

Dystopian or Totalitarian are the words you may have been thinking of UT. Btw, they tried to cover up the amount of cars the ship was carrying initially. Originally, they said, it was only carrying 25 EV’s, they were caught out and had to admit it was carrying 500. Can you just imagine this happening in a crowded underground car park? It would be devastating.

[@DaveTex2375]

Or maybe Fascism? Corporatism? Corporate Fascism?

[@archiebunker7688]

Lester Holt said it was a mostly peaceful Bic lighter candlelight ceremony to honor the dead non windmill killed whales.

[@richardcranium3579]

@@archiebunker7688they sure do carry the water for Herr Klaus don’t they? I can tolerate the bullshit narrative but when their fascist roots start showing through it’s time to call bullshit what it is.

[@walsakaluk4630]

​@@DaveTex2375Command economy = communism.

[@dyer2cycle]

I live in North Ga., and we have absolutely been invaded, especially in the last 3-5 years, with people moving in from other parts of the country, especially cities, into our "rural" area...roads are clogged with traffic, grocery stores/walmart overwhelmed, gas stations overwhelmed, schools overwhelmed, the list goes on...what I would like to say, though, is, I wish all the people who are moving into our area and changing it had the views and ideals of Uncle Tony..I will gladly welcome that...sadly, too many want to bring the city and city values with them...

[@jeffhuntley2921]

It’s happening everywhere. Hope you enjoy tax hikes

[@dyer2cycle]

Just got latest copy of local newspaper. Headlines? Tax hikes! that and that electric rates are increasing...we have a local school board with a tax and spend mentality, when it comes to spending, the sky's the limit..only the newest and most grandiose is good enough..sheriff's department isn't far behind...@@jeffhuntley2921

[@stevemitz4740]

We're all singing/ realizing! Where have all the wet-backs gone? Oh, When will you ever learn? Oh, When will you ever learn?

[@hose8239]

Sad to say, you are !00% correct, America better wake up, N.W.O. is on the move.

[@adamdean5881]

We are having the same problems here in Pennsylvania with people fleeing from New Jersey. They cut down all the trees and put up spotlights everywhere. It is like they are afraid of the dark. Not to mention that their politics generally are not compatible with those of the people already living here

[@substance1]

What's is going to happen when the massive batteries when are spent? You can't put those in the dump. Also, if one battery cell go bad, you cannot replace it. So over time, the batteries will have less and less range over the liftime of the battery pack. Then, a new battery pack will be in the range of $30,000-$45,000.

[@stanallport6746]

that s a good point.. i watched a thing about one battery going bad.....if u just replace the bad one, count on doing it over and over as everyother battery in the pack will go bad little by little....

[@Labrat554]

I just came back from a 900 mile trip in my ICE powered Camry. I gassed up at 420 miles and when I got home at ~890 miles. Gassing up took under 5 minutes. Try that with an electric. Also, wait until the government requires bidirectional charging during times of high demand (very hot days). Imagine having your car on a charger and finding the charge was drained while you were sleeping.

[@NBSV1]

The issue with a cheap practical EV is that the batteries and electronics are so expensive it ends up being more than what an average person is willing to spend on what’s basically just a commuter car. Until you get into more expensive stuff the range is pretty short and they generally won’t support the really fast charging. So, it means you either need another vehicle for longer trips or you have to rent/borrow something. Which isn’t always a good option for people.

[@Eduardo_Espinoza]

And I used to think that $200 for a complete junk yard engine was a lot, I predict that you won't be able to fix your EV powertrain wise since your insurance will drop you ASAP

[@johnehlert4366]

And what you rent or borrow would be an ICE vehicle.

[@dyer2cycle]

I think the real goal, is to bring an end to personal transport. I have seen pro-EV "greenies" state frankly, that they don't really think EV's will ever sell or be as practical as ICE vehicles, but they don't care because they really think there needs to be a drastic reduction of vehicles of any type, and if the mandate to change to EV's helps bring that about, so much the better....

[@DanaTheInsane]

EVs are selling fine there’s no shortage of them

[@dyer2cycle]

If someone want's an EV, fine...EV's don't fit my budget, lifestyle, or needs...and I'm sure for a lot of people, probably most people..EV's would work best in urban settings with short trips and plenty of charging stations, IMHO...Like Uncle Tony says, if you want them,fine, but it's the rushed, forced agenda of trying to push everyone into them that I have a problem with...@@DanaTheInsane

[@maddhatter3564]

Proving again, talk to any Greenie long enough and they will expose their communist core.

[@Khan.WrathOf]

​​@@DanaTheInsane what does "selling fine" mean to you? We're absolutely not talking Civic numbers here. Hell, I'll bet more clapped out Miata rust boxes have sold in the last year than Model Ys. You're dreaming if you think the majority of Americans can even afford to buy a usable tesla *cough *cough not the base model *cough

[@Eduardo_Espinoza]

I could see why they hate cars because it sucks to live in the city, even the tiny one near me.

[@richdiscoveries]

Somehow I believe we have not hit Peak idiocy yet. Don't forget, we're talking about the government, they always seem to outdo themselves lol

[@usd25674]

Yep, had to chuckle, good post.

[@spacecat7247]

Peak idiocy is a mountain peak that we will never summit but will continue to climb with a vengeance.

[@PapaVrooom]

...and I think they take statements like this as a challenge instead of a warning...

[@OllamhDrab]

These things are not 'the government,' ...in this case certainly *ours* isn't involved. It's corporate greed and gambling instead of quality control or good procedures.

[@LuckysMotorcycles]

So , how do you feel about the tax money rebate on a $100K+ EV . To rich people .

[@FoxRob93]

If the majority does not buy the EV's the problem will correct itself. Any company willing to lose sales can go out of business.

[@daveshupak9840]

I was surprised that manufactures skipped over making most of their vehicles hybrids before going exclusively EV. My 2011 Altima hybrid which uses a Toyota Camry hybrid system has been a good car. It has metal hydride batteries which are safer than lithium and are sufficient for its lower power needs of it's 40 HP motor. Even lithium hybrids use smaller, cheaper, safer batteries. Also, it looks like if my car outlives its battery, I can get a used, battery with a warranty for cheap.

[@Tumbleweed_Tx]

my buddy abandoned his hybrid Explorer at the dealership in Franklin TN because it needed a hybrid battery. The battery costs $33,330. When he got the estimate from the dealer, the dealer specifically stated that he did not add an extra 3, that's how much batteries cost. EVs are stupid.

[@electrix6751]

Whoa!! Thirty-three thousand, three hundred and thirty dollars? My Lord!

[@belltolls1984]

Damn, any idea what year it was? Curious as to how long the hybrid battery even lasted.

[@kellyhinkelman8591]

Alchohol is the best.

[@mkshffr4936]

​@@kellyhinkelman8591I prefer Oxycodone.😂

[@TheWolfsnack]

true...but of course.....being as you can make it at home easily....not too likely

[@chrismuller2780]

Best EV critic I've seen yet! Sensible. Yes, it's about the *government* ramming it down everyone's throats, not EV's in general or EV's applied in to the use-cases suitable for them.

[@jackseton7861]

I remember watching the EV conversion video on project X, “engine out for the last time” I remember distinctly saying to myself , it’ll be back . So glad to hear they converted it back to internal combustion ❤

[@edge2sword186]

Remember what the WEF said " You will have nothing and like it " Klaus Schwab wants you to know this .

[@alansloan7784]

FKS and the WEF.

[@ScarlettFire341]

Klaus Schwab (at World Economic Forum 2016): In 2030 you will own NOTHING & be happy. -- Paul Kengor: Abolition of Private Property Is at the Core of Communism.

[@CoreyLahey-ic9is]

He can catch a boat to fuck off land

[@philliprose415]

Shwab just resigned,I wonder if he feared being offed?

[@Dawg7227]

If I told the owner of the company I work for that he had to put in battery chargers for me because I wanted an EV, he would laugh me out of his office.

[@WhitentonMike]

You would also be laughed out of his office if all the employees asked for a gas pump to be installed so everyone could get free gas. Even if not free, it ain't gonna happen. Why should we expect EV charging to be different?

[@jimc3688]

Or, that you have to change your shift hours to coincide with charger availability. When companies realize that they can sell you the electric power (another profitable product) they will do it. However, for most people I agree with you.

[@WhitentonMike]

@@jimc3688 I do I.T. work for a local GM dealership. They have installed gas pumps for the cars they sell. Employees are forbidden from gassing their own vehicles. However, they installed a Megawatt solar system with 4 EV chargers and the one's in the employee parking area are free for the employees.

[@maddhatter3564]

plus he would take the cost out of your pay

[@OllamhDrab]

Owners of companies laugh at people asking for water or toilet breaks these days, so?

[@rogerramjet6429]

I work for a vehicle parts supplier that deals with Ford, GMH, VW, Audi, Kia, Hyundai, and many more. The company has banned the storage of EV batteries and associated high current charging systems from all companies. Only takes one little fire and everything is lost due to the way those same companies use cardboard and plastics to package their products before we receive them.

[@thomascunningham111]

Lithium-ion batteries contain a FLAMMABLE electrolyte that can result in fire or even explosions if they are punctured, damaged, or heated. ------ The electrodes are submerged in a liquid called an electrolyte, which allows for the movement of ions and consists of lithium salt and organic solvents. It is these ORGANIC solvents which are the leading fire hazard in Li-ion batteries.

[@fruitfarmfords8243]

Exactly, they didn't have to mandate getting rid of horses and buying gas vehicles back when Henry was perfecting the assembly line. As the technology allowed, the internal combustion took over. Very simple.

[@tabbott429]

Evs were around back then and only corruption within the oil industry/ politics kept them from becoming main stream.

[@lb9gta307]

​@@tabbott429 no, they were reletively mainstream. Then the electric starter motor was invented in 1909, becoming industry standard by 1918, and EVs lost their only advantage in not having to be hand cranked to start befor driving.

[@maddhatter3564]

TY for stating 'perfecting' and not 'inventing' as far too many people believe

[@Deploracle]

@@tabbott429 No ... they could not compete against petrol fueled vehicles. They still can't in every category but one .. the imaginary category (emissions). Electric vehicle power does not scale up well. For vehicles smaller than a lightweight motorcycle, electric and fuel vehicles are comparable. For vehicles larger than a lightweight motorcycle, any comparison gets harder to make because petrol vehicles progressively knock electric vehicles to the curb.

[@15DEAN1995]

I remember reading the next gen of batterys will be solid state. I'm not sure what way those will handle crash damage but I remember reading they're were going to make the battery's part of the frame of the car. If you think the current batterys in the floor are bad in a crash, imagine the insurance if the entire car had to be replaced after a minor incident.

[@thomascunningham111]

Lithium-ion batteries contain a FLAMMABLE electrolyte that can result in fire or even explosions if they are punctured, damaged, or heated. ------ The electrodes are submerged in a liquid called an electrolyte, which allows for the movement of ions and consists of lithium salt and organic solvents. It is these ORGANIC solvents which are the leading fire hazard in Li-ion batteries.

[@asciblue]

Solid state batteries in theory shouldn't catch fire nor make much heat based on current data. They're also supposed to be about a half to a third the cost of current L-Ion batteries costing about as much as a new engine for your average car.

[@tommanley2924]

I didn't see consumers clamoring for EV's. They are forced upon us.

[@lb9gta307]

The EV market almost completely disolved in the 1920s and the driving public has continued to prove over the past century they don't want them, even with the rebates (bribes) and propaganda. Their poor salse shouldn't be a surprise to anyone.

[@beammeier4997]

1.8 million waiting list for the Tesla Cybertruck and the Tesla Y being the the best selling car in the world this year would beg to differ.

[@davidharris1340]

I remember a time when a man named Ralph Nader forced Governments, and car manufacturers, to fix safety problems in automobiles. With thermal runaway, uncontrollable fires, fires that do not need oxygen to burn, doors impossible to open if the battery shuts down, we have the most dangerous cars the world has EVER seen. Where are you Ralph Nader?

[@rogergawanda6648]

You articulated my thoughts exactly. I hope everyone watches this video. A logical unbiased statement. Thank you.

[@jamanjeval]

Leaded gas, cigarettes, waste chemical dumps, fracking, radiation from atomic bomb tests, fram oil filters… (😂) the list goes on of things that have been forced upon people. I strongly agree with you on your points about repairability and access to parts and information about the vehicles.

[@mkjohnson7826]

Plastics……now they are saying the microscopic particles are getting into everything--water and food. That’s just great….

[@amusingarts]

Wait until they put a road tax on your electric bill

[@yeboscrebo4451]

That’s what I keep telling people. I have a natural gas Camry that I was able to fill up for 11 bucks back when the state of utah had not yet started levying road taxes on natural gas pumps. It was wonderful, but that didn’t last long.

[@amusingarts]

@@yeboscrebo4451 Yea, I had 2 propane trucks that were cheap to run and then suddenly propane was more expensive than gas. I also remember when diesel was cheaper than gas. I'm now a reformed gearhead. Spent most of my life driving and now I don't even want to get in a car. It's weird to me but I'm so much healthier for it I'll never go back!!!!

[@avaxasirvina6740]

I have an EV and I agree with most of what you have in the video. I think a lot of FUD on both sides are a big issue. I would also personally not want my Emergency response, search and rescue EV only. It is not there at this time. It should be a choice, not a mandate.

[@willsmith8586]

I saw an EV work van on fire on the interstate the other day. IT was like one of those ultimate fountain fireworks. Like, for Disney lol. Looked like everyone was safe, but do we really want our kids on EV buses in the future>

[@georgekaplan6451]

The initial report on the "Dutch Oven" as one of our Australian commentators called it was 25 EV's and under 3000 vehicles and that became 500 EV's and almost 4000 vehicles. Somebody also said if you can't afford to live within 15 minutes of where you work then you are working in a theme park.

[@adamlanglois563]

If you can't go 15 minutes from where you live you are living in a theme park

[@adventtrooper]

I think the confusion came from the manifest for the next destination (Port Said) was given, rather than the full cargo. If true, it's interesting that Singapore was taking a 50/50 mix of EV/ICE while Egypt was still majority ICE. Decks 1-4 (the lowest decks, and last to offload for ship stability) were destined for Singapore and had the majority of EVs, deck 5 was clear as that's the loading deck, somewhere on decks 6-12 (the upper decks) had the fire origin. This may have been in one of the 25 EVs, or may not; there's no confirmation of the origin. It was the empty deck that saved the ship as it acted as a fire break and prevented the heat reaching the lowest 4 decks and the engine room.

[@thomascunningham111]

Lithium-ion batteries contain a FLAMMABLE electrolyte that can result in fire or even explosions if they are punctured, damaged, or heated. ------ The electrodes are submerged in a liquid called an electrolyte, which allows for the movement of ions and consists of lithium salt and organic solvents. It is these ORGANIC solvents which are the leading fire hazard in Li-ion batteries.

[@hairy-dairyman]

The possibility of a thermal runaway in an underground carpark is terrifying to me. You can't smother it, you can't cool it and you can't move it easily. Especially if it's going off next to another EV. The gasses expelled are amazingly toxic. Especially if cobalt is involved. And that method of government sounds familiar. Something to do with a bundle of sticks in Italy

[@thomascunningham111]

Lithium-ion batteries contain a FLAMMABLE electrolyte that can result in fire or even explosions if they are punctured, damaged, or heated. ------ The electrodes are submerged in a liquid called an electrolyte, which allows for the movement of ions and consists of lithium salt and organic solvents. It is these ORGANIC solvents which are the leading fire hazard in Li-ion batteries.

[@DawayneBuffin-ho5mn]

This why I don’t drive next to or park anywhere near an ev plus come winter it’s gonna get cold and people think ev’s are safe I refuse

[@zapa47]

"going off next to another EV" Good thing they don't have to park close to each other... Oh wait.

[@gb7418]

Just gotta say it - you guys all sound like horse enthusiasts freaking out about the ICE - “it’s full of flammable gas! It’s so dangerous” It’s such polluter!”

[@jeffdelgren2170]

​@@gb7418I'd gladly go back to horses 😅

[@gregwild3981]

Excellent video. Maybe the best I have seen on EV. The one item not discussed is the ability of our electrical system to support the energy. Particularly with Renewables. I don't think EV's will become mass adapted without mandates until the Super capacitor is advanced enough to be used as the energy storage. Instant charging and made from carbon and copper. Having been in defense industry I watxhed the super caps that were being developed in the likes of Sandia National labs. Truly impressive. I havent hears much of late but those seem to be the ultimate answer. Carbon and copper. Nothing nasty

[@flatbrokeauto5746]

I’m not anti EV I think every kid should have a Power Wheels jeep or corvette

[@joemaloney1019]

That spontaneous ignights! Zippo EV!

[@ADAMH924]

On a total side note, 31 or 32 states require EV owners/drivers to pay annual road usage taxes due to the simple fact that the state and feds dont get gas usage taxes from them. The list of states is growing also. Some yearly taxes are as small as $50 while others are as high or higher than $200.

[@steveo85]

Indiana charges $150 annual registration tax for reduced gas consumption on our hybrid. Unforking believable.

[@TrippinBusa]

Should be way higher.

[@glynnec2008]

@@steveo85Who pays to maintain the roads and highways that you drive on? A yearly $150 fee sounds kind of low. EVs are much heavier than ICE vehicles, so they wear out the roads faster. You should be paying more.

[@steveo85]

@@glynnec2008 is obviously commenting from her mom’s basement since she thinks everyone should pay more taxes. Any pickup weighs more than my hybrid. Base taxes on weight sounds like a plan…. Good input cupcake.

[@jmoney6652]

Idiocy peaked for me when I saw them making ev trucks and then the electric hummer was the icing on the cake.

[@stormy5877]

Daughter has a friend that lost there house when their EV exploded in their driveway 😟😟😟😟😟EV's are a public safety hazard!!!!

[@darinp5612]

I used to think peak idiocy happened 3 years ago when some people were wearing three masks to swim at the beach.

[@GeorgeJefferson-h7w]

Yeah pretty much.

[@zrirukishizutakiari]

Wearing masks in public may be understandable, even though now in retrospective we know that the virus turned out not that deadly. What I found idiotic was seeing people wearing masks while alone in their own cars lol

[@PoBoyCustoms]

Great video! Chrysler is gonna lose so much money on this move away from the Hemi . I bet they bring it back in a few years.

[@legitmilkman98]

They are replacing the hemi with an turbocharged inline 6. Seems to produce more torque and hp than the current basic 5.7L. Will be interesting to see what they can do with it. Seeing the new charger with that turbo 6 reminds me of a modern aussie valiant charger.

[@zilksmooth]

The turbo body is cast into the head. So when it cracks from the heat, and it will, big bucks. Keeping my 5.7 300 and my 6.4 Scat Pack manual Chally for a loooooong tine.

[@alansloan7784]

IF Chrysler, Ford, and GM survive this corporate fascist lunacy, i.e.,dumping ICEs in favor of battery-powered vehicles, it'll require total removal of the idiots currently in management. (Likewise the fools in government who are trying to force Socialist BS on us, whether we like it, or not.)

[@legitmilkman98]

@@zilksmooth I was not aware of that. If thats so then yeah I can see that being a weak point. However the turbos will have their own separate cooling system so they at least did take heat into consideration when they were developing it. Hopefully they looked at the Ford Ecoboost and used that as a learning lesson to see what to improve on in their own design. As far as from a enthusiast performance standpoint I'd like to see what people can do since twin turbo I6 screams smooth endless torque to me. But I will enjoy that performance as a bystander like I do the Ford Ecoboosts and Mod V8s, Supercharged Gen 3 Hemis and Turbo LS's. Not against them they just arent for me for various reasons.

[@CoreyLahey-ic9is]

​@@zilksmoothdamn having a turbo cast into a head kills any potential aftermarket support

[@mariannorton4161]

I think there have been closer to five cargo ships that were taken out by an EV. What's Up With Shipping has some great info on the numbers. That said, you are spot on, these cars need to never be put on these ships.

[@vickiemorgan8581]

There's been 51 different ev fires in boats and ferrys

[@did_I_hurt_your_fee_fees]

These cars need to never be put on the road.

[@SteveEddy-od7fb]

So I guess there's a bunch of cooked fish out in the ocean somewhere???????

[@mariannorton4161]

@@SteveEddy-od7fb The cars burned "on" the ships, not in the water.

[@philip5940]

​​​@@SteveEddy-od7fband the fish caught in those regions will be just what your everyday schizophrenic needs , being high in lithium content.

[@normanbuchanan9710]

This was quite possible the fairest/most reasonable analysis of the whole EV fiasco I've heard since it all started, thank you uncle Tony.

[@y2kxj]

Things that are not thought of is risk of fire in a underground parking... also the weight of them in a parking structure. You may have to upgrade your home panel service to accommodate at home charger...

[@paulcarmi8130]

The electric car Richard Hammond wrecked a couple years back burned for almost a week after the crash, if I remember correctly. I think if more people knew this, they would never have purchased a Tesla. Especially the ecolunatics.

[@maddhatter3564]

Yes and with all the attacks NO ONE has addressed the issue of grid health, i get all kinds of crap for opposing forced EV but its usually a personal attack saying im a horrible person and they never address the "california factor" as i call it. The grid in california can't handle 1.5% EVs and they want to go 100% by 2030 or 2035. I suspect no grid could even support 50% EV

[@chrisbueschel3884]

Oh man when the first parking structure collapses……..

[@deb-kenjohnson9497]

Well balanced summary of EV issues. Cost of EV's and the associated infrastructure is definitely an inhibitor to normalizing these across any society. The poor and the middle class will be the biggest losers.

[@mongo64071]

Big thumbs up for saying a lot of what’s on my mind. I have an EV, but I wouldn’t force anyone to get one. Like everything in life, it depends on your individual situation and wants. That’s how it should be. Free market. Vote with your feet and your wallets.

[@johnbeyer2211]

The end game is to eliminate car ownership all together. The WEF has stated this goal many times.

[@camillosteuss]

I was so damn glad to hear about the ship accident recently... It made me giggle like a girl... I knew that shit would happen sooner or later, and i said so numerous times and commented about it on a few channels... And look what the cat dragged in, oh, nothing new... I am just sitting in my chair, sipping tea or coffee, smoking a cigar, pleased after a day in my machineshop with all the old 1920-1980`s machines, and with my before 2015 cars(1970-2015) with all the good old tech, and i watch the world burn... Sure, it pisses me off when i have to custom machine a fucking ball bearing because i cant get a decent bearing at the shop any longer, or a decent anything really for that matter, and that the roads are shit, prices and taxes are astronomically high, but fuck them all... I will manage... My beloved machines will manage, and in the meanwhile, maybe the hellfire consuming the world will push people towards sanity back again, and we will have another 50 years of decent life again, until the memory of this shit fades a bit and the cycle starts over... You know the saying, strong people make a good world which makes weak people, which in turn fuck the world up, causing a resurgence of strong people and the cycle goes on and on... Wars are fought, lies are told, masses are mislead for profit, all the good shit we are having since way back when we first had the thought of civilized society as bloody apes with spears practically... The only thing that has changed since then is technology and deviousness of deception and corruption...

[@race8427]

In Bob Lutz’s book, “The End of The Good Old Days” he mentions a coming dystopian future of a fully autonomous transportation system. GM and google/Alphabet and others currently have every highway, road, trail and parking lot mapped out. IC automobiles will be outlawed on all public motorways as not to disrupt the autonomous complex. The frightening thing is these social planners have had this sorted out for quite some time.

[@Vicus_of_Utrecht]

It goes back to the intentional sinking of the Titanic to implement the Federal Reserve & Income Tax. Your SSN was never meant for identification of your person. The future is fucked.

[@heikkiremes5661]

Thermal runaway is fricking scary. You could torpedo the cargo ship to the bottom of the ocean and those EV's would still continue to burn.

[@dgaz3057]

Not really a clear definition but it revolves around these ideas: Authoritarianism Corporatocracy Oligarchy Plutocracy Crony capitalism Regulatory capture Corporate lobbying Corporate-state collusion

[@toejam503]

Thank you for putting out this video! Common sense says EVs are not practical for anything other than a novelty. The car makers of the early 1900s tried the EV thing. Too much cost, too much down time, and way too much money. And this was before the development of the ICE and it's infrastructure.

[@maddhatter3564]

As stated some in inner cities may benefit from EV. most city people drive less than 50 miles a day and dont haul any real loads

[@funnycatvideos5490]

Too bad you can't put out the fire they have EV charging stations in parking garage is when they learn they release chemicals that will melt your lungs@@maddhatter3564

[@Houston123ABC]

A problem I have with buying an EV or used EV is -- if you buy a used EV and the battery dies while you own it -- won't this cost be even more than replacing an ICE, and maybe the transmission too?

[@rustysworldofentertainment850]

In Australia a Lexus ev battery can cost over $47k. There is zero possible used car market for evs, and no hope therefore of ev first car ownership for young people. Hence no cars or freedom of movement in the future.

[@EndOfTime.]

I'm glad Tony you can see what's really going on. It helps us out more than you realize knowing someone else is on the same page.

[@markkringle9144]

Fascism - corporations remain in private hands, but the government determines what is produced.

[@DAllman1]

It isn’t just the cars catching fire, I saw a story where a dudes house burned down because of a lithium-ion battery setting off.

[@kramnull8962]

Homeowners installing their own solar is always a plus.

[@mpetersen6]

​@@kramnull8962 And getting their insurance cancelled because of the solar panels.

[@mpetersen6]

Better get rid of that cell phone then.

[@CoreyLahey-ic9is]

Local car wash got burnt down by an EV fire

[@waygonner]

I think electric is great, especially in radio control racing. However, we see fires in those small scale cars regularly. I had a lithium battery about the size of a soda can explode and do $150k of damage to my garage. Now take that and apply to full size electric cars and I don’t see how anyone would be comfortable parking one and charging it in their garage. Especially when it is attached to the house. Also, the battery waste problem will be enormous and we don’t really have clean electricity anyway. So I’m not sure what the EV fuel requirements are solving? I like electric but I don’t think we are even close to it being scalable to the level of our transportation needs. Great video Tony!

[@tabbott429]

Tesla already is scaling and heat causes battery fires. Tesla has the best cooling system on the market to manage battery temps. Its not rocket science.

[@waygonner]

@@tabbott429 Heat isn’t the only source of lithium battery fire. Batteries too far drained, overcharged, charged too fast, and ones with manufacturing defects are at risk. It’s pretty shocking how volatile lithium batteries are but I’m sure there is new battery tech that is sustainable and more stable on the horizon. By ‘at scale’ I mean as the primary vehicle fuel for most consumers. We aren’t close to that and I would be surprised if our power grid would be able to handle it without massive public investment. Couple that with electricity being sourced from coal, nuke, hydro, etc and we have a long way to go to see net benefit from the switch. I’m still a fan of electric but I think there are still many hurdles to get over for them to make sense as a category killer.

[@jaebush]

I’m not anti-EV either. I’m just anti-government mandate. If you ask me hybrid is the way to go on the next evolution of the automobile but without big government mandating it.

[@mundanestuff]

Right? Let the automakers design and build an EV and a supply chain to support it (mines, battery makers, charging stations), and either people will buy them because they are better, or they won't buy them, and the products and companies will die on the vine. The citizen should never have a gun pointed at them, their money stolen, so the government can decide what's best.

[@falcorthewonderdog2758]

Steam engine trains had a range of about 10 miles before they needed to refresh the water supply and stock up on wood. This is why western towns are 6 to 8 miles apart.

[@garnetheron4885]

You’re right, I work on all my cars myself. None of my cars have been to the dealership in over 20 years that includes for minor fender benders.

[@yourhandlehere1]

One thing I've noticed in my years of being a human. If you make a good useful product, you don't have to shove it down anybody's throat. (Unless it's designed to be shoved down somebody's throat)

[@GBray]

Those batteries need to be built to fit in groups like 12 volt car batteries. So their would be 4 or 5 different sizes all interchangeable within their group. You wouldn't have to buy a battery from the manufacturer . That would bring down prices and the competition would result in better batteries.

[@peterdarr383]

The batteries need to be protected in side-impact collisions too - - they extend rocker-to -rocker and any impact jeopardizes the battery.

[@sidewaysaudi5677]

Coming From a guy that use to race competitively with traxxas lithium rc cars, when those batteries get punctured, they go, and they go HOT

[@2HacksGarage]

Watching this now. Doesn’t surprise me. Rivian automotive is 20 mins from my house. It’s stock is down 83% and investors are pulling out. Long live gasoline!

[@yeboscrebo4451]

We’re witnessing a time similar to the Great Depression when quite a few car manufacturers sunk. I doubt all these modern startups will weather the storm either. History is cyclical

[@maxbialystock254]

Tony, the car manufacturers are happy. They sold 4000 cars in one day to an insurance company. No cut to the dealership and no risk of recalls or repossessions. Perfect business. The board of directors will just say nice work fellas fill up another boat. If the insurers start to refuse to back this sort of cargo then we will see something but trust me they will not complain either.

[@darlenegeorgeboyd8493]

Thank you Uncle Tony for telling the truth about EVs.

[@tabbott429]

Hes not though. Tesla proves him wrong. the other companies are screwed without the bailout (IRA)

[@ripvanrevs]

The only battery powered vehicles old people like are the carts to ride around in when they go to Walmart!!

[@BobGoldesberry]

The fire dept all have a policy. Let it burn. It takes 75,000 gallons of water to stop an EV car fire. More than house twice over.

[@killingcursivekustoms]

Also anti EV here. Sometimes peoples own ignorance leads to their demise, and in the case, those people do not know what they are asking for. Eventually it will catch up to the economy, and theyll point the finger yet again.

[@maddhatter3564]

I'm Niether pro nor anti EV. like Tony i believe it just shouldn't be mandated. (i would love a truck i didnt have to buy gas for but i'm also 100% solar. and as EV's are charged at night.....)

[@jimjamauto]

The people who want EVs are the same people who will hate all the construction it will take to properly support a populace that drives EVs. Every branch line and transformer will have to be replaced on every street in every city. They don't understand the scale of it just like they often don't understand the cost of upgrading their homes to use a decent EV charger

[@hobo1704]

​@@jimjamautoexactly. Owning an EV to them is just the stigma that they are making a difference.. Even if everyone drives an EV it won't make a difference at all to the global emissions problem

[@killingcursivekustoms]

@jimjamauto Not to mention all the oils, plastics, lead, copper, lithium, precious metals...and like you said, upgrades to facilitate the demand.. transformers, substations, technical training, and then there's the fossil fuels required to be used, to produce it all. All the while, places like China can extract, burn, dump and pollute the hell out of whatever they want. Why should we, one of the founders of the automotive world, suffer the consequences and hand over the things we love? Like guns and engines..

[@TurdFergusen]

dude literally said he is not anti EV within the first 30 seconds

[@et76039]

Yes, EVs do their place; I bought a used Nissan Leaf last year. It is good at everything my stick shift F-150 is lousy at, and vice versa. But when my father asked if I was going to drive it to Florida to see him, I said no, because it would have been faster to walk. Energy density is the problem; increasing the range requires hauling around a significant amount of dead weight. An EV is ideal for urban traffic, and definitely reduces noise. It shifts smog cleanup from local to an off site power plant, where it can be handled more efficiently. It is much more efficient in stop and go driving than a car with an internal combustion engine. The latter id better under loads, and at highway speeds. The range of an EV (mine, at least) drops tremendously if the heater or air conditioner must be used, while a gasoline engine would see very little impact on range. Also, where do we get the extra megawatts we'll need by "going green"? No free ride.

[@christopherconard2831]

I'm in a similar place. An EV would cover 90% of my driving. Assuming I could deal with the charging problem. But what do I do for the other 10%, rental?

[@maddhatter3564]

Yes sadly its often savior or devil. I can see where city dwellers could benefit from EV if they are just people movers. Factor in long range,A/C, heater, night driving and it makes less sense

[@silvy7394]

Dont buy an EV that already had an inferior battery the day it was bought. Problem solved.

[@maddhatter3564]

@@silvy7394 And just how could you tell?

[@maddhatter3564]

@@christopherconard2831 EVs i'm sure do have their place but the .gov is trying to force them on everyone. I'm 100% solar and to add the necessary panels would cost over 50k even if i DIY it. plus out here in West Texas i can easily drive +200 miles a day that would require mid trip charging, at 2 hours of down time. BTW solar only works in the daytime, the time i use my truck. And battery to Battery charging is very inefficient

[@nickbruni8041]

WORD U.T. !👊🏼 the batteries on my cordless tools for work are unreliable… They overheat under load real quick .

[@OllamhDrab]

Well, if you're overheating the batteries, you're probably also screwing up the motors, so maybe account for that in use? (I mean, yaknow, I got a lot of consumer-grade electric tools, nice enough for most things, but I gotta consider the motors and wiring even before the batteries get warm.)

[@stevenmitchell7830]

The EV is about justifying increases in taxes, fees and the number of government employees.