Hasan Addresses The Insane Comments Attacking Ethan...

[@destiny]

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[@ekysnoir]

oooh bein far 4 a couple days wuts happenin here fuuuk

[@gamedude412]

Hasan audience think the Hamas terror attack are "justified" resistance of occupation. Because he created a false idea of South Africa is the same as Gaza . Where SA used terror attack against Infrastruction to end investment into the nation where as Hamas thinks every tree and rock will help them kill every jew.

[@TheMelonFarmers123]

I was just listening and my ears perked up so hard at mutas omnipresent “hello” at 16:38

[@peterjohnson5132]

Why are so many people uneducated about Nazis? Why do they think being antisemitic is the only thing that makes you a Nazi? It's a was a Hitler thing, not a Nazi thing. Being anti Jew makes you antisemitic, not a Nazi. Nazis hate other demographics due to thinking they're superior. Israeli's hating Palestinians is at the same level of being a Nazi as someone being antisemitic, but the treatment of Palestinians by Israel makes Israeli's more like Nazis than anyone being antisemitic. Also don't refer to yourself as being Jewish if you're pro Israel, you are a Zionist not a Jew. Otherwise you wouldn't have thousands of Jew protesting for Palestinians around the world.

[@Pradator-wolf]

hissan 🐍

[@kirbyr558]

Hasan: We ban shit like that all the time Also Hasan: I can't control my chat

[@Rimmy45]

"Man I cannot control them" Ethan: "Don't you have mods to do this?" "uh man my dog groomer just came"

[@rainy4354]

gen question. how can hasan ban hateful comments when he's talking to ethan and answering his questions at the same time? it's important to recognize that both Destiny and Hasan cannot get rid of the fast rhetoric *live* stream of anti-Jew or anti-Arab rhetoric. also ethan has a racist past, so a lot of hate-watchers probably tuned in to comment that. also didn't it get so bad that he ended up doing emote-only towards the end?

[@ZenTheMC]

@@rainy4354 Mods? No one is asking him to ban during his convo lmfao

[@rainy4354]

i thought they meant the entire chat was going crazy antisemitic so banning a whole chat is counterproductive at that point disabling chat was the only right option for such insane evil rhetoric.@@ZenTheMC

[@rainy4354]

also aren't his mods... also antisemitic? coughfrogancough. at that point it would be hasan's choice to do smth, that's why i was asking how could hasan ban when the whole chats going crazy antisemitic while debating/discussing.@@ZenTheMC

[@Holy_Grapefruit]

Hasan about Ukraine: "Oh no there are so many neo nazi's in their army" Also Hasan: "No this isn't Hamas, there are multiple factions of Hamas" *Bruh*

[@willy_b_coyote]

What do you expect? Hasan is a tankie, and to tankies it’s not imperialism when China, Russia, and Arabs do it, its “Resistance/Liberation.”

[@sprinky666]

west bad

[@TurtleChad1]

​@@willy_b_coyotecry IDF bot

[@didymus3348]

Hasan on Palestine: We can't focus on Hamas because Israel is more powerful and is the oppressor. Hasan on Ukraine: Yeah the Russian invasion is bad but we have to talk about the Nazis in the Ukrainian army.

[@HSE331]

@@willy_b_coyoteYeah this brand of leftism also applies to atheist and anti nationalist jews who cite the scripture, "gods chosen", and make blood & soil arguments about 4000 year old ancestral homelands. Fascism is okay when China or Russia does it for instance and everything jews condemn white nations for doing is okay when jews do it. Take the conquest and occupation of Europe by the USSR not being seen as bad for instance.

[@skyefox]

All Hasan had to say was "Yeah I understand why the average Israeli is very defensive and feels like they're never safe" and the entire argument goes away. He just had to be empathetic for 2 seconds and he couldn't do it. It's actually incredible.

[@peterjohnson5132]

Yes imagine getting hit in the nuts by the person your drowning, why won't people think of the drowner's fears of letting them up afterwards? Why doesn't anyone feel empathy for the torturer if they release their victim?

[@THEE_Kisywisy]

I will admit I am rabidly anti Zionist and have extreme views when it comes to Israel, but holy shit, that doesn’t mean I don’t understand or empathise with how they feel. I unsubbed to Ethan during the Aba and preach shit and don’t watch him anymore, but daaaaaamn I want to punch Hassan in the throat for how fucking cold and callus he’s been to Ethan over this.

[@johnnyrotten1666]

That would require human emotions something Hasan doesn't possess.

[@peterjohnson5132]

@@johnnyrotten1666 you think the torturer deserves empathy for their fears of retaliation from the people they've torturered?

[@skyefox]

@@peterjohnson5132 so it's impossible for you to do as well, huh? Interesting.

[@ovskii96]

Ethan legitimately needs to cut ties with Hasan and rebuild his community. He's clearly a detriment to Ethan's fanbase and mental health.

[@24kNick]

lol it’s a beautiful thing to see , just goes to show you that you shouldn’t interact with hasan snaker

[@DarkSideOfLucca]

I have been saying this nonstop over the past month. I’m Jewish and I have a few friends who disagree with me on this issue, but Hassan is a gaslighting piece of shit and because of the scale of his reach, he’s legitimately making the world more unsafe for Ethan, all while pretending to be his friend

[@BenjiBoi696]

If we didn’t enter the Trisha Paytas time line none of this would have happened. Global warming, all the wars, economic collapse, drama, shit movies, and the hasan merger would all have been avoided

[@jordyb57]

💯

[@ScarryTerry666]

Hasan is worse then Trisha

[@BobertRads]

Crazy how Hasan only addresses what happens in his chat when he knows it's about a fake log so he can dismiss all future criticism about his chat.

[@DoneBrokeDatBack]

Or if he needs a target for his random bouts of impotent rage.

[@Classikh]

Hasan is a master at sniping stuff from the chat that fits his narrative

[@zalandarr]

Communism 101 always reframe things to favor your own movement and cut out all the factual pertinent information

[@basedgodbill]

Destiny was dead right when he said Hasan strictly just does what makes him feel good. He’s a man child

[@TurtleChad1]

Rent free btw

[@miserycord0666]

Hasan being caught in 4k with that chat moderation argument with Xqc is just so infuriating especially when Ethan was baring his soul out to Hasan, accusing him of the same thing

[@MisterK-YT]

What happened?

[@18andcloudy]

damn man, hope you recover

[@DontDrinkthatstuff]

Cool. Anyways Israel is committing a genocide so yeah. Probably don't want to promote that.

[@shakkabo]

@@MisterK-YT Hasan basically told xQc he was a bad friend for not moderating his chat from people who shit talked Hasan. Ethan did the same thing with Hasan and Hasan took no responsibility saying "What do you want me to do? Put my chat in emote-only mode???" Like he can't start banning people for calling Ethan racist, zionist, etc.

[@aVenomousSnake]

Literally just watched that part. Timestamp 6:15 to 7:25 for those who want to go back.

[@adamarzo559]

Hamas PIker never takes accountability.

[@SSLH2000]

Someones gotta stop Hasan. The shit he does is genuinely dangerous.

[@adambernon6930]

He’s an awful, awful person.

[@bravingbrivatebrian]

I can't believe there aren't more WillyMac style videos clearly outlining all of the times he has been wrong and refused accountability.

[@Totsugaru]

hes a festering wound.

[@colonelkenpachi5009]

How does Hasan not have a Manifesto like Vaush.

[@mikabakker1]

@@colonelkenpachi5009 Its too big and shit gets added everyday, the manifestso would be infinite long

[@rambogilligan6894]

"Anti Hasan sentiment" is such egotistical way of describing what he claims is going on. LMAO

[@Rimmy45]

I always say that the mfs who are like "everyone is against me, it must be a conspiracy! (or are haters)" is literally people just facing consequences of their own actions

[@MrEd8846]

Hasanazi: bro. Its not that big of a thing Ethan: theyre screaming to kill all jews

[@jdgoesham5381]

What makes is even more annoying is Hasan knowingly smiling while saying it like he's been doing. He's about as scummy as any person online is. Maybe even number 1. Like I've not even seen actual far Right ppl say things his community are about. Like what little far right there are today just want their own ethnostate and not by murdering, these ppl want the J's gone gone and they want to be the ones to do it.

[@MrEd8846]

​​@@colbycarithersaverage hasanazi fan. How's that swastika?

[@nystagmus3535]

@@colbycarithersno one is saying that? But maybe if you were to be actually honest you might acknowledge why Jewish people in particular are rather sensitive about this kind of rhetoric? We can and should talk about more than one bad thing that’s happening. Stop using Israel’s actions as a bludgeon against Jewish people who are worried about increasingly hate crimes against them.

[@rainy4354]

i also think hasan's biggest mistake was not displaying a modicum of respect and empathy to his *friend*! i've seen hasan call out antisemitism in his chat and even tweet out disinformation on the pro-palestine side. so?? forget israel for a second, hasan couldn't offer a bit of sympathy for his israeli jewish friend? sucks man.@@colbycarithers

[@nystagmus3535]

@@colbycarithers I’m sorry but Hasan can control his chat and his moderators. Also - he routinely doesn’t yell at “long term Fans” he finds someone with a take different than his and cranks it up to 11 and accuses them of being racist, transphobic, wanting all of “x” to die. It’s hyperbolic and over the top because that’s what streamers are incentivized to do. He has a choice. If he wants to be taken seriously he needs to behave seriously. If he wants to act like a clown then he gets treated like one. I’ll change my mind as soon as he stops using the “I’m just a dumb twitch streamer” defence. Until then; fuck Hasan.

[@CasperBoglim]

Absolutely crazy to call Ethan out for underpaying employees and the cost of his home when siding with Hasan 😂

[@Awaken_To_0]

HASSAN GIVES THEM THE MEANS OF PRODUCTION!

[@rherd]

Every live show, every show merchandise that is sold, all of the profits go to the crew. I guarentee they are all making more than 100,000 a year.

[@paulaxa1]

​@@rherdprobably lol

[@jennybitez4742]

@@Awaken_To_0hasan has admitted he doesn’t give a dime or a % of his production at all. He admitted on multiple feeds that he doesn’t give them a portion of profits or means of production. Hasan is literally worse than Ethan when it comes to handling employees.

[@Mia_starlight]

I think the most annoying thing about hassan fans think they are smart and that everyone who disagrees with them are evil or stupid

[@KilimnikGenya]

True.

[@Ontheroxxwithsalt]

That is literally a cultural trait. Cenk is just like him. You can see this whenever you see any of the Imams debating. They debate like children having a tantrum.

[@KilimnikGenya]

@@Ontheroxxwithsalt : They do have a ton in common. You can see it by how poorly they debate and how poorly educated they are on the history of the topics they opine and debate about. Cenk made an absolute fool of himself the last few times he has gone on Piers Morgan. He is constantly corrected and his opponents will calmly explain why he is wrong and he still goes on his “dead babies” rants ignoring all Arab aggression. Also the solution he offered last time to the conflict has already been done and the violence only ramped up. He thinks Palestinians will all of a sudden be “ohh golly gee thanks Israel, we will stop the daily rockets and daily terroristic attacks now.” The amount of delusion the two have is extraordinary. I think a part of it is they aren’t there to learn, nor do they want to learn or care about that. They have a list of talking points they need to push through. Hasan has actually even explained this strategy to his fan base.

[@miserycord0666]

Frogan is such a terrible mod like her messages in that chat were unhinged

[@cady__]

She’s horrible

[@adamgarner4149]

To be Hasan mod you have to have many screws loose in your head.. it's practically a requirement.

[@random_name2113]

same can be said for the "normal" viewers@@adamgarner4149

[@jdgoesham5381]

Those fake Muslims always go hard to deflect from them being fake(for eg she's got LGBT rainbow stuff on sometimes and that is as Haram as marrying a Jew for them among other things that show she's not really a Muslim).

[@kamifuujin]

​@@jdgoesham5381😂 pretty sure she can still be Muslim.

[@bluedreamkush2392]

Hasan to XQC: “Control your chat!” Also Hasan: “Ethan I can’t help nor control what people say or think about you”

[@ussassu]

Moron, Hasan has been culling his chat for many years already, he was asking xQc to at least start cleaning up a bit, and also not encourage it verbally.

[@Jacqueline888]

i’m pretty positive the cleaning lady was waiting at the doorway to see if she could come in and ethan was just saying yea, sure, come in. i didn’t find it rude. it’s not at all comparable to xqc’s 10 bags of garbage hahaahaha. also, i think “housekeeper” is the preferred term over maid if we’re gonna play the woke olympics

[@mb9662]

She is paid to always stand ready to clear his desk at his slightest gesture

[@TR13400]

I mean even if xQc is an actual child I never saw him act rudely to the cleaners

[@mb9662]

@@TR13400 proper etiquette is a small bow not a limp wristed wave

[@Jacqueline888]

@@TR13400he typed about them to chat while they were in the same room 😂 super awkward to pretend they aren’t there.

[@TR13400]

@@Jacqueline888 well, what did he say about them lol

[@KilimnikGenya]

I am almost indifferent to content creators but the amount of contempt I have for Hasan is next level. He is what happens when no journalistic integrity meets no conscience.

[@Robisquick]

Thank you, I’m glad you see it too. Some people are playing defense for Hasan in the comments which is terrifying.

[@KilimnikGenya]

@@Robisquick : His community are incredibly rabid. The things they say about other creators who are unlike Hasan genuinely good people is sickening. They were incredibly disgusting to Ethan and Hila. Hasan’s relationship with Ethan can be likened to a parasite imo.

[@kazaastank]

And the most important part of the equation, all that whilst having an absolute sense of moral superiority. Honestly this is the one thing that many, including many many people here seem to consciously or subconsciously possess.

[@he.5865]

You uncritically copy every opinion destiny has of course you think this.

[@sidhamze4239]

destiny has no integrity. period

[@leipomon]

Being a new Destiny viewer has shown me how silly I've been for thinking Hasan provides informed and nuanced takes

[@atetraxx]

Based

[@juliajaeger8175]

I know. I used to be a big fan of Hasan. Now I feel so stupid.

[@HeatMiserr]

@@juliajaeger8175 nah don’t feel stupid he’s good at what he does. Smart people get suckered in by people like him all the time and honestly that’s what’s really scary about his type of rhetoric.

[@benjaminpiccard]

This is the way

[@kaiepstein]

Same, I found destiny last year and I still can’t believe how unquestioning I was about Hassan’s takes. The fact that it’s so clear how vile he actual is to me now is alarming. I used to think I wasn’t the kind of person who could get drawn into a cult, but after following Hassan avidly for 2 years has made me realize I need to be more careful.

[@Akcruiser2012]

I will never comprehend how people watched how hasan treated ethan and come away thinking ethan and hila deserved to be called those horrible things.

[@sufferedlearnedchanged]

Imagine naming your account Hassan-owns-Destiny. 😂 Absolutely insane. Straight up riding Hassan's jock strap.

[@psfanboy79]

Prolly a Hassan sock account

[@NozdormusRage]

When Destiny called Hasan a 'terrorist' I thought it was out of pocket, jokingly or not. I don't know if I think that anymore. He is obfuscating, demonizing, and deflecting every ounce of criticism while stoking an irrational hatred of Jews and people who aren't in his community. The joke used to be 'someone has to stop him' because he was so attractive, but genuinely... he has to be stopped. Insane shit.

[@quinn28]

could you show me the part where hasan stokes any hatred of Jews whatsoever? btw, what is a rational hatred of jews?

[@kyleeherring6255]

@@quinn28watch the video at 52 minutes

[@Irosicndosjnf]

Attractive for a debate bro, I guess

[@La0bouchere]

@@quinn28 If you constantly say that the KKK isn't actually that bad, and some of the things it does are justified, and that they're members are just responding to bad things that happened to them in the past, you'd be stoking hatred towards black people. The same logic applies to anti-semetic terrorists and terrorist groups.

[@hialeahtheo]

How does that equate to terrorism? For a community that says words matter, this is some major hypocrisy.

[@ZaiTsk36756]

You apparently can find out a conservative's true opinions about things they don't say out loud just by looking at what their viewers say. But you can't do the same for lefties... for some reason..

[@reclusiarchgrimaldus1269]

Rules for thee but not for me

[@ThePigeStrangler]

You can’t do that for Hasan, specifically. It applies to everyone else though.

[@areichental]

Given what frogans willing to say in public, imagine what she doesn't...

[@jdgoesham5381]

Ha, I was just talking to coworkers about that same exact subject today. Funny how the MsM and others forgot their favorite word "dog whistle" with all the genocide of J's talk the last month...It's like they can't look up the meanings for them. Like I saw MSNBC allowing Rashida Talib lie about what "river to the sea" means and the MSNBC guy never called her out on it or questioned her on it. They know. They're just 1. scared to call out Muslims 2. politically tribal/biased to the point of lying to our faces. Nothing new though.

[@24kNick]

This is why being centrist is the only way

[@cady__]

How Hasan has such a large fanbase will always confuse me.

[@Markuden]

Probably around the age of 12-22. We all those kinds of kids who think they know everything about everything because they just heard it from some semi cult figure like hassan.

[@heytoast7129]

I stopped watching the FLAGRANT podcast once Andrew said he was good buddies with Hasan and gets his political takes from him.

[@swaggyfunan7216]

Destiny created this monster

[@24kNick]

@@heytoast7129same plus schultz has one of the worst haircuts on planet earth

[@QMS9224]

It’s simple really. Most people are dumb but think they are smart. Especially young people

[@MrSpleenface]

Holy shit people are deranged about the "waving his maid in" situation. He looks over, waves and nods. That looks 100% like it was an ask. Like, she probably either said or gestured something like "can I come in, am I interrupting?" and he was like "no, you're good to come and clean up". He even thanks her, it seems like a pretty big reach to conclude he doesn't respect her.

[@CodeeXD]

These freaks don't go outside and interact with people

[@vangoghsseveredear]

It's because she's clearly "oppressed" in her fairly easy job that she's probably well paid for. These people are so braindead they think only in terms of oppressor vs oppressed, even if they entirely made up the situation in their heads.

[@lukaswithakay]

They probably think that she’s just standing in the corner with her head down until she’s “allowed” to move or some nonsense.

[@steveium]

That chat has also watched Hasan many times wave in and out his mom to bring him tendies or take his plate. It’s normal shit

[@JoeBidenFanclub99]

Dude this editing and the previews you get before watching the rest of the video are literally the best thing ever. Please never stop this editing style.

[@ProfNDKai]

💯 Fr W August or whoever edits these days

[@JKL805]

AUGUST AUGUST AUGUST WE ALL CHANT IN UNISON

[@mb9662]

The editor makes hundreds of thousands a year

[@seesharper8913]

Hasan pretends to be saying "He cant control what people think or say", but what his argument actually is "You deserve the hate your are getting, it's your fault" Literally victim blaming Ethan lmao.

[@peterjohnson5132]

You are a victim if you did nothing to provoke the action against you. Did Ethan do nothing then get the hate he got? Or did he get hate because of something he did?

[@bananian]

He did do something, partnering with Hamas piker and associating with you rabid radical fans.

[@ZenTheMC]

@@peterjohnson5132 He did nothing. He was trying to go out of his way and have a nuanced conversation despite his biases, and whenever something factual is mentioned, irregardless of side, Hasan's chat goes batshit and types Nerdge or Based or whatever the fuck. Imagine hating the guy for trying to learn and provide his perspective instead of just staking himself to the opposite tree and being unwilling to conversate and introspect. The amount of pro-Israelis who I've called out on misinformation in my own friends list, and then they refuse to answer lol. Same with the left extremists who go too far with the pro-palestine and it turns into anti-jew or misinformation. The point is that conversation and perspective and the ability and willingness to engage is absolutely commendable, since most don't want to accept that they hold cognitive biases.

[@killermlg5360]

​@@peterjohnson5132Let's say hypothetically you get into an argument with some dude on a topic, it gets heated and he pulls a gun on you and shoots you. Are you therefore liable to getting shot and consequentially not able to be called a victim anymore since you partook in the argument?

[@rushyscoper1651]

also funny is he made the opposite argument about xqc and it wasn't his mods joining in those comments and where way tame then hascord or chat right now

[@DB_DARyl]

The fact that Hasan is SOOO DISHONEST about this "fake" chat log and blamed that over why Ethan(his GREAT FRIEND) got mad over his chat is SOOO UNHINGED. If even content creators believe this idiot, I have to believe that all these Twitch Streamers only care about having popular creators around them or being friends with them to keep them at the top. Hasan should be ridiculed by this and no one besides Destiny is talking about it.

[@matt_9112]

"Even content creators" pretty sure that that demographic has just as many idiots as any other "slice" you take, even any "chat". Add Hasan's size as an incentive and there is nothing really out of the ordinary there. Difference being it's live in 4k and thus clearer, obviously.

[@QMS9224]

Hasan only cares about clout and money. Can’t wait for the day it inevitably comes crashing down

[@DB_DARyl]

It’s showing I have a couple replies but I can’t read them. If you disagree with me, idgaf.

[@Pb-bs3ii]

Hasan is a bum bro. Sam Hyde needs to hurry up and knock him out.

[@clickytheblicky9895]

That is literally the poggers community’s business model. They share and leach audiences

[@DJ-wl5qo]

Hasan: “iDubbbz fans say the N-word? He must be held 100% responsible for this and must apologize immediately.” Also Hasan: “I can’t control my audience bro. Come on, bro. Bro.”

[@AlbertBormant]

Break free Ethan!

[@Rimmy45]

From the podcast to the stream Ethan will be free

[@koenzwanink4472]

@@Rimmy45 whahahahahaa

[@AlbertBormant]

LOL@@Rimmy45

[@atetraxx]

It's only a matter of time until Ethan and Hasan are enemies and we get Ethan on destiny stream

[@gamedude412]

Remember its never Hasan fault for the audience... that he cultured and grew...

[@mb9662]

Always silence anyone you have the power to silence! If you don’t you’ve neglected your duty to silence speech you hate!

[@dzy3030]

@@mb9662lol

[@tomashmore7413]

I used to be extremely left-leaning, borderline socialist. Hasan has almost single-handedly (along with his chat) pushed me away. I knew when Ethan and him started Leftovers, it would end in tears. His audience is a hive of edgelords, tankies, champagne-socialists and probably a couple of actual left-leaning people who aren't insane. Glad Destiny is here to call it out.

[@peterjohnson5132]

You sound like someone with no principles and can have their mind changed by a strong gust of wind

[@rjjacob101]

You let others push you politically? Isn't that, flip-flopping? Or being a fair-weather friend?

[@stevestrangelove4970]

​@@rjjacob101we all change our political views according to our experiences. If you dont change through time and new experiences then you are just a zealot.

[@GenerallDRK]

Same story but it was the tankies / far leftists in general lol. Now I'm just a center left soc-dem lib etc etc.

[@redSUPERMAN2]

​@rjjacob101 yeah I feel like you shouldn't allow some db asses of similar beleifs push you away from said beleifs. If anything it just shows you really didn't believe in those values

[@patmacrotch5611]

That has to be the most clear example and Hasan doing what Hasan does... complaining to XQC about doing nothing about the exact same thing he tried to gaslight Ethan into thinking he can't do anything about it.

[@devonboyer626]

That's why we don't want these people in charge. Because they'll do the same there too! lol

[@mbd251]

Everyone saying Hasan claimed he couldn't do anything to mod his chat are wrong, he said Ethan earned that hate and essentially praised his chat for it

[@SupaDupaDanga]

I want a link for that

[@kainoizking]

@@SupaDupaDangahe didn’t praise his chat but he basically said he can’t control how people perceive Ethan when Ethan is agreeing with racists. Pretty much justifying the gross and frankly disturbing things being spewed by his community and blaming it on Ethan. Some “friend”. He’s always been pathetic tankie scum but now with his community gone completely rogue while he and his mods enable it, I believe he’s genuinely dangerous.

[@randalthor2859]

​@@SupaDupaDanga6:53 Did you even watch the video? You couldn't catch something 7 minutes in?

[@Skyflairl2p]

how did he earn the hate any more than a pro palestinian would "earn the hate" though?

[@d.riddle2965]

@@randalthor2859 This is such disingenous shit. Look how that was cut and Destiny's comments over it. Hasan said there are a lot of comments that scroll by fast, neither he nor his mods can catch them all, and he put it in emote mode after, even saying that he wasn't reading his chat because he was paying attention to Ethan. Destiny saying Hasan basically said Ethan earned the hate is disgusting honestly. He literally says he constantly tells them to stop, but there is a point where Ethan is an adult and needs to understand the way he is presenting some arguments are the same way racists present theirs. And he's getting that type of reaction because people don't know Ethan personally like he does. Destiny has enough money, why the hate boner for Hasan?

[@skuterixas91]

FBI should probably look into Hasan

[@lukaswithakay]

What’s to look into? He’s a lazy manchild with too much money. You think he’s actually effecting anything in the real world, aside from spreading propaganda?

[@MarcoGarcia-br4le]

He’s so cool I hate him

[@jdgoesham5381]

I was in his stream live the other night and his chat is so extreme. That person didn't need to fake a ss. Funny how this same group used to talk about "far right dog whistles" from 2015 till 6 weeks ago when we're now seeing some of the most violent dog whistles I've ever seen outside private forums years and years ago. Hasan's own mods are so extreme it's hard to imagine they can even get by in our society they're so hateful. Actually I bet his mods are legit incels. Only people who don't get out and don't have friends and a S.O. are THAT hateful.

[@rocketrelm1125]

Though I don't think this was necessarily part of the genesis of this much, I remember watching one genuinely informative series for information about the alt right and pipelines and how things operate from a left leaning commentator. The general premise and outline was that it was bad, but there was a throw away comment or small point made re: "We on the left need to do this." to the model of isolating and ensnaring people.

[@martymcfly88mph35]

Of course they're incels. Right wingers have over 40% more kids and are much more likely to be happily married. Have you seen what a "progressive" or socialist dude looks like? They're always weak and weird looking unwashed losers. People use the word "incel" as a political weapon, when in reality, the far left has more actual incels. Discord gremlins with no jobs, chapocels, etc

[@dragonhunter6102]

How Hasan is still not banned?

[@bambina5604]

Money cow

[@psSubstratum]

because nobody wants him to be banned. I absolutely hate that guy but I dont want him be banned

[@dragonhunter6102]

​@@psSubstratum His points and position is indistinguishable from a nazi tbh, he advocates for killing by race and/or class while centralising government power with extending it while watching how people getting injured and hurt while laughing. I can be extremely soft and understanding of people but noone on the internet makes me more mad than his unaccountability. Also he is constantly hate brigading his fanbase on onther communities

[@psSubstratum]

@@dragonhunter6102 fair point but I still dont believe in banning. just my opinion

[@dragonhunter6102]

@@psSubstratum I get it but at the same time i made my points and i think they are valid, he is most pro death and most posible revenue damage for twitch, if Pewdiepie was reason for adpocalypce he then should be platform killing disaster

[@sialiasialis.]

At this point, I genuinely feel like Hasan could catch a body and his reddit would still be like "Evidence of Hasan not stabbing someone and them actually falling on his knife"

[@ataraxia7439]

What’s your icon pic?

[@Ladenstarfish]

Hasan never, ever ceases to amaze me with the depths he can sink to. Petty, cruel and vindictive to a science.

[@miserycord0666]

New leftovers w Ethan and Destiny when????

[@mrman-yj3bn]

Love how hasans Chat accused other people like ethan of "YOU DONT CARE". But when anyone mentioned the Jewish victims, its "WE DONT CARE OMG"

[@bullgodjake]

Yes, Destiny, that X-Men line is actual crap. Every non-ideologue is fine using “men” to represent humankind. Weirdo screenwriters with blue hair find this problematic, not normal people.

[@gringles]

It’s a pretty goofy line, not gonna lie.

[@marthaschmidt6445]

And she says that right after nightcrawler- a man, saves all their lives... 😅

[@gringles]

@@marthaschmidt6445 Didn’t Magneto save them all from a missile barrage in First Class? Hahaha

[@Ithaca-vv5dy]

I wonder if ethan has been watching destiny

[@Yambag]

All these guys watch each other

[@Ithaca-vv5dy]

I wish Ethan would reach out to Destiny. Would love to see a discussion between the two

[@chuckecheese5251]

Hard to say Ethan engaged in calling for violence based on emotion and race since he teamed up with Hasan and now I'm sure he's questioning his entire life right now and trying to stay quiet and neutral while his own fan call for the abolition of his entire race while only occasionally using codes language as deflection

[@adamgarner4149]

Hopefully this is the arc that brings Ethan back from crazy leftie loonie land..

[@TwoBs]

Hard to say. Probably not any full length streams or anything like that, but maybe a few videos that revolve around him and Hasan after Oct. 7th given how fcking nutty the conversations are about the situation as a whole. Like, I don’t see him intentionally seeking Destiny’s content out for enjoyment for anything else, if that makes sense. Some of the points he has brought up go right along with some of the ones Destiny has given, but then again, Destiny’s points goes off of history and basic common sense … which both are severely lacking when it comes to the topic of Israel and Palestine as a whole, so it’s going to seem like he watched and took notes when a lot of it is basic positions any normal person that has read into the history would have.

[@Tiasung]

Always love the instant karma editing, giving examples of Hasan being hypocrite and lying

[@demolazer]

I still can't believe Hasan didn't defend Ethan when his mods called him terrible things, instead justifying it. His flock are more important than his supposed friend.

[@invntiv]

Literally all Hasan had to do was say “I’m sorry, we’ll do better” and make a minute effort to clean up his chat. But that would require him to concede a millimeter of the ground he’s dug himself into. He’s demonstrated time and time again he’s not capable of doing that because he doesn’t have a single neuron of self-criticality.

[@John_Notmylastname]

Hopefully this whole thing sheds light on how awful Hasan is.

[@whatisamodel8252]

Destiny's followers are just as much of sheep as Hasan's

[@puffdaddy69]

Hamas Piker

[@KissSlowlyLoveDeeply-pm2je]

Destiny has done far worse.

[@alexanderbellini2526]

I am quite against content creators being banned, unless it's for a call to violence, or doing the equivalent of yelling fire in a movie theatre. Yet this has made me think a bit more about, what if it is indirect calls for violence etc. Although Hasan has never said go and do this, or that, directly, yet when he says it's legal under international law to do what Hamas did, because the people they are attacking are settlers, and Palestine are being oppressed etc, and then you refer to infants as baby settlers, and call all settlers evil racists etc, I mean, he is not outright saying it, but how else are people supposed to interpret what he is saying there. It would be like yelling in a movie theatre something like "I'm not saying there is a fire, but I can smell smoke, and it's very, very hot in here"

[@korgle]

@@KissSlowlyLoveDeeply-pm2je if you're gonna bait at least do it from a real account lmao

[@PapaAwiz]

Hasan genuinely thinking that Asmon "if my chat goes around acting crazy, it's not my problem" gold is actually whipping his community when the chat is acting up, is utterly fucking hilarious.

[@calsas171]

I mean in comparison to Hasan he does, I've seen him often enough personally banning people and telling people to stop saying things, or not to send hate to anyone. I can think of very few instances where Hasan has done any of those without someone pressuring him into it, but even then he lets it go unchecked in his own discord so

[@OldManLondre]

4:22 Destiny, tell your editor to stop murdering my eardrums with the super loud music over these titles jfc lol

[@paco1022]

hasan unironically cares more abt the xqc tier list than october 7th

[@Zach-cn4lb]

The difference between Destiny's and Hasan's approach to moderating and taking accountability for (or in Hasan's case, not moderating or taking any responsibility) their community is insane. Especially when you realize that Destiny's community is the one that apparently is known by some people as being more hateful and prone to things like raiding. Shit's wild dggL

[@ownagemunky]

Hasan triggers the fuck out of me. It's so hilarious that his most infamous line is weaselly little liar because I can't think of a better phrase to describe him

[@eeevieee]

I'm so confused why people are mad at Hila, I thought military service was mandatory for men and women in Israel? How could she have avoided this if she was born there?

[@hellsjamfleas]

She told them that Israel didn't burn Palestinians alive every day (their assertion). So they decided to character assassinate her to prove shes an evil Israeli who deserves no empathy. Destiny called them out in a previous stream and Ethan and Hila debunked the lies. Many of them ignored it and kept peddling nonsense lies , but most H3 fans were annoyed by their behaviour and accepted Hila's innocence.

[@mistapitts]

I feel like Hasan's viewer base is mostly just a bunch of young naive girls who think hes cute

[@lickinginprocess]

We need you to delete this post, no one was suppose to figure it all out

[@jk7140]

Very true, but the corrolary is also true. The anti-Hasan community are largely bitter uggo men who hate someone getting that kind of attention, and get especially enraged that people pretend to be impressed by his intellect despite him being quite dull.

[@eavesdropper0]

This is kinda true

[@lucasforpresident]

The whole israel palestine thing is getting boring. I hope destiny moves on to a different topic soon

[@LunaTulpa]

if you're viewing this comment, your ip has been confirmed grabbed by the daiban, inshallah and I must go now because my dog groomer has arrived

[@geminimojo8019]

Man Hasan's audience must be brain dead. The dumb argument of should the factory owner get the major share is so stupid. Like yeah without the workers the stuff doesn't get done, but without the owner there is no job to go to, so you could argue back and forth all day on that. I think his community is mostly people who want to argue edgy takes from what I see. I definitely feel for Ethan cause he seems like he views Hasan as an actual friend. Definitely a lesson in picking your friends more carefully.

[@johnnyrotten1666]

I think the dumbest part is comparing the H3 podcast to a factory because Ethan doesn't simply own a podcast. He owns it and he's the host. He's the main entertainer, he's the reason people watch it. Yes the crew all add something and help him run it but the show could easily go on if they had to replace a crew member. Without Ethan the show is dead, he's the one carrying it. If Ethan sold the podcast and some random KZbinr bought it to host it and kept all the same crew no one would watch it.

[@calsas171]

​@@johnnyrotten1666that and as others have been saying, everyone wants the same pay as the boss but none of the responsibilities. Sure you could pay a random crew member the same as the CEO but the CEO would have like 10x the responsibilities than that crew member, that in and of itself is more unfair than being paid a wage based on the work and responsibility you have

[@ATXAdventure]

Ethan is a prime example of why you never go full lefty.

[@johnd1047]

Is this a pulp fiction reference?😂😂

[@adrian-dragosbalaban6401]

@@johnd1047 it's Tropic Thunder

[@johnd1047]

@@adrian-dragosbalaban6401 ohhhhhh fuck, you’re right. Thanks!

[@adrian-dragosbalaban6401]

@@johnd1047 peace, bro✌

[@johnd1047]

@@adrian-dragosbalaban6401 enjoy your day! :)

[@kevinnagar7539]

his fans on twitter are rampant, I can't imagine the number of jews who are getting death threats from them, me included. They're honestly the most unhinged people.

[@Trad-Am]

This childish idea, that employees are entitled to someone else's company, that they, or their family, created, is insane! Employees are entitled to no more than the employment contract, that they agreed to, and are free to work somewhere else, or start their own business. They want all the benefits, without the risk, F- off!

[@yosikimhi]

Can someone tell me why Hasan doesn't get perma-banned?

[@luminous3558]

People in charge agree with him politically

[@wizardgaming6759]

@@luminous3558and he’s one of Twitch’s biggest money makers, and we all know Twitch is going down the drain financially. So of course they won’t perma-ban him.

[@JaJDoo]

man hasan is just gaslighting ethen over and over

[@FourTelling]

Mcafee trolled to hard

[@mpm61290]

Hassan and his community genuinely represent everything that is wrong with the younger generation in this country

[@nom6758]

The fact Destiny didnt think that line from the x-man movie was doggarbage is the biggest travesty of this whole conflict.

[@sarahcusack]

​@@Section8dcthe person saying anything in any movie is "objectively terrible" is never on the right side lol. idk I liked it.i see your point ofc tho

[@sarahcusack]

and tbf literally the whole history of film has been packed with "man boss" lines and themes, super overtly and cringily too.. so I think it's fair that we get our fair share of cheesy overt girl boss stuff before everything has to become totally equal lol. same goes for minorities getting a little more screen time than whites now after a history of not being included in any positive roles whatsoever.

[@chrisandme23]

Only the Candyman can take down Hasan

[@meth3rlence]

Hamas Piker could literally get Thanos snapped and absolutely nothing of value would be lost... In fact, I dare say Thanos would be praised and invited to join the Avengers as a hero.

[@JAGFamily10]

Considering Hasan’s fan base is probably 12-24 year olds, I used to think, “eh they’ll grow up and sharpen their critical thinking skills and adopt a more nuanced view of our complex world.” Now when I see grown ass adults holding some of the most absurd views, that tells me these kids may not grow out of this “I know everything” phase :( This year was the first year in 100 years that the avg IQ scores dropped when they typically go up a few points year by year. We are becoming a society of emotional thinkers who can’t critically think nor want to. It really makes me worry about how our society will be in 30+ years .. absolutely terrifies me.. 1) We’ve had congressional hearings on whether children can consent to hormones/surgeries 2) We are debating whether drag shows can be held in schools under the name of free speech. 3) Mental health conditions are rising at an insane rate, especially among our youth. 4) A handful of kids tested proficient in reading and arithmetic in my cities public schools 5) We are having queers for Palestine rallies even though Islamic societies would completely exile or punish those types of beliefs. 6) We have people calling themselves comrades in the name of communism and want to inherent the teachings of Karl Marx. 7) We have young adults using the word fascist as they try to mitigate free thought and opposing ideas .. The list could go on but I feel as if these are signs of a dying society. We have truly let our future generations down and I’m not sure what the future holds without some very very hard times ahead.. good luck everyone and stay educated.

[@Robisquick]

I agree with a giant majority of what you’re saying. I think our success or failure is directly contingent upon if we as people will socially evolve enough to use the internet and social media maturely. Millennials were essentially lab rats for the internet age. And we might be just seeing some growing pains. And will grow into a better regulated and more truth oriented space. But if we aren’t physiologically and socially built to handle online… yes, we are in collapse

[@vangoghsseveredear]

Agreed. If you look at how the Roman empire collapsed, the parallels are astounding. High influx of immigration, ruining the Roman traditions (were no longer allowed Christmas concerts in schools, as an example). Degradation of traditional marriage roles/society becoming more open to sexual deviance. Corruption throughout government, right to the highest level. Massive debt accumulation throughout the empire. People generally unhappy at said government. Weakening of the military. It's all here. We are, unfortunately, watching the downfall of Western civilization. While we get weaker, our enemies get stronger, with less people willing to take up the mantle to defend our countries. Its a bleak future ahead.

[@JAGFamily10]

@@vangoghsseveredear glad I’m not the only one who feels this way. The world feels different. Tense, misguided, immoral, uneducated, emotional, and the worst of all, fragmented. We have access to the most amount of info yet kids are just flat out stupid. Sometimes I see the general population as packets of electrons being manipulated, just as primates do..super sad. To think Jefferson was 32 years old when he wrote the Declaration of Independence .. blows my mind. I just had a baby and it terrifies me to think of the world she’ll have to experience :( Do you have discord or Xbox ? Would love to stay in more contact with people who see this erosion of society.

[@JAGFamily10]

@@Robisquick I agree. We are a poorly evolved primate species.. who would’ve guessed we wouldn’t be able to handle the maturity and sophistication of the internet. We haven’t evolved to be able to handle this much stimulation. It feels like a movie sometimes. I’ve seen interviews on KZbin for example, between a politician and news host. Depending on the channel posting the video it’s either, politician gets destroyed by news host or news host gets destroyed by politician .. same interview .. same words .. but somehow truth is subjective. The internet has really increased our tribal nature and it’s getting bad.. I miss my childhood :( Any discord or Xbox gamertag? I’d love to connect to like minded folks as this division goes down.

[@luminous3558]

How can you grow out of something you surround yourself with 24/7? You'll grow out of it is a very complacent thing to say when you have the option to do something to fix it at that moment.

[@kaffert]

and the saga continues...

[@Yambag]

37:46 - 38:02 perfect explanation of Hasan and his community

[@Relaxe1]

August doing God's work.

[@NicholasW943]

I love that at 18:45 Destiny joins in downvoting that poor commenter for seemingly no reason.

[@trouble3172]

Every redditor does this shit 💀poor commenters

[@rherd]

A comment about Ethan paying his staff, all of the live show sales and any merchandise sale from the podcast goes only to the crew (Ethan doesn’t get any of it). I’d guarentee they all make over 100,000$ a year. And it’s funny to criticize Ethan for how he and Hila have created dozens of jobs while Hasan sits in his house collecting his checks by himself.

[@toastyreviews420]

Hasan actually brags about how little jobs he's created, I always hear him talking about how he only has like 3 people working for him and impretty sure he doesn't pay them

[@TurtleChad1]

Why do people still take Hasan seriously after he called the babies settlers?

[@catswork]

why do i see you in every comment section lol

[@vangoghsseveredear]

Silence, bot

[@lukaswithakay]

Pick a side, man

[@beenz07]

The logic isn't logic-ing. Ethan says "Jews don't like this because anti-Semitic people say it." Hasan says "the chatters don't like these comparisons because racist people say them." Hassan's resolution to "From the river to the sea..." is that context matters. The context for Ethan drawing parallels is he's pointing out that tolkenism is not a legit defense. Hasan should fire back "hey chat, Ethan has a point, tokenism isn't a legit defense, he's not racist" just like he thinks it matters that leftists in America aren't using the phrase like Hamas.

[@sourceeee]

I've never heard Ethan be like this to Hasan despite them being buddy buddy for almost 2 years. It seems like this is a very core thing they disagree about that's genuinely affecting their friendship. Its hard to watch two people who were friends seemingly drift apart like this, but at the same time if the friendship was built on an unstable foundation, can you really expect for things to work out properly in the long run? I don't know much about this conflict, but I would still fully support my friends and defend them against BS, even if we disagree with stuff.

[@SACKBOY123432]

Good point. If you build your friendship on solid ground, different opinions would not matter

[@Panteni87]

There are no friendships on the left, only temporary allies.

[@Tespri]

Both Ethan and Hasan are opportunists. While Hasan is complete sociopath, the Ethan at least seems to have capability to feel empathy.

[@Shreah303]

Hasan Piker = NO ACCOUNTABILITY

[@EluvietteNikki]

also if I'm not mistaken alot of the crew members for H3 have their own successful channels, which wouldn't be anywhere near that successful if they weren't connected to ethan. I don't watch them but I've seen some of their channels in passing, maybe not all of them do but its a good way for them to make extra money on the side.

[@areichental]

Hasan and the tyt comment sections are currently the scariest stuff im reading. Absolutely wild in there rn.

[@dakotaxd3727]

The LA income comment was insane. they said Ethan paid under 100k for each of his 12 employees. and they said that LA is very expensive but the average LA income per person is 30k USD....... I think people are richer then they imagine but spend their money so shittt that they trick themselves into thinking you must have over 60k to live in the USA

[@atetraxx]

Ethan is really smart, i think he'll realize all this. I hope he calls hasan out for it.

[@mattyoungblood5720]

Why aren't Ethiopian jews allowed to immigrate to Israel?

[@noamweizmann]

They literally are….

[@SAMcGarvey1]

Louis CK is mexican, i dont know what to tell you. Hes ethnically mexican, racially white. Thus stuff gets much more messy in NA then back in the old country where the Irish were very ethnically different from the English. It works a lot better historically then it does currently

[@marron5272]

Ethan needs to remove hasan from his life frfr

[@XenoTravis]

All the people that actually watch leftovers are saying Ethan just looks stupid. It is kinda scary how Ethan will let them eat him alive before he cuts ties and realizes Hasan is fucked up

[@landobjarnson]

I swear to God all you do is talk about hasan

[@aarondavis8943]

Destiny is misunderstanding ethnicity generally and insulting people for his own ignorance. It's a extremely vague term than can mean many things because of the complexity and expansive nature of the thing it describes. But ethnicity _can_ just mean a group who identify culturally and tend to live together. For example, the Serbs and Croats are genetically indistinguishable but we would class them a being different ethnicities, not in this case because they tend to belong to different nations (though they do), but because they belong to different religions, hold to different historical traditions and identify as being distinct. They do _also_ tend to belong to distinct nations but many of each have lived (and continue to live) in _each other's_ nations, usually with their own fellow Croats or Serbs, in particular towns or suburbs. Nationality _can ineed_ define an ethnicity, though, usually when the people have left their homeland and now congregate in a different nation. So we can see Cuban Americans as a particular ethnicity distinct from other hispanic peoples. The common factor is identity: how people view themselves as belonging to a group.

[@lickinginprocess]

I don't think he is. It did almost look like he was going ignorant with it but he explained it well and he was a bit defensive because that chatter is trying to sneak a "gotcha" on him, when something like that would be annoying as heck coming from your chat community, so of course he sounded insulting. Destiny never insulted the chatter though. He just got a little defensive in a explanation for what the definition for ethnicity is and why that definition leaves room for questions. Ethnicity is too in-depth and people use it to their own definition too much for good clarity. Destiny is a high energy and could be considered high strung but that what makes him spEciAl.

[@cheezyllamba]

Hassan’s turn around right before 7:45 about “Ethan making statements racists have made…” Is so fucking disgusting and a shitty way to talk to your friend. I’ve enjoy painting, but so did Hitler so does that mean that it’s okay for my friends to label me as a genocidal dictator? Like wtf type of finger pointing and lack of responsibility is that?

[@bumbaclot813]

Wait a second. When ethan confronts hasan about this in their debate hasan laughs and says that his chat is just responding to what ethan is saying so it's ethans fault people are sayinh these horrible things. Only when hasan sees something about it being some kind of raid he is saying they are wrong? Now im half asleep, am i understanding this right?

[@peterjohnson5132]

Yes people are judging Ethan on his actions/words, so the fact he's getting shit for it is on him. Is it extreme? Ofc it is, but it's not a random attack like many people make it out to be.

[@bumbaclot813]

​@@peterjohnson5132 yeah it's not surprising at all. I was just seeing if i'm understanding right that hasan was backing up his chat and not addressing when ethan brought up the whole "dont you have mods?" Thing. But now that hasan sees a fake screenshot he's saying it's an attack from an outside force.

[@CodeeXD]

​@@peterjohnson5132 ethanol words and actions are he wants people to stop dying and doesn't appreciate that Hasans chat is chanting what amounts to "death to all jews" but you weirdos somehow twist it to Ethan bad and deserves the hate...

[@peterjohnson5132]

@@CodeeXD I called it extreme but not random. But their is a difference between being real racist, thinking you're better than another one or all demographics. Or having a reason to hate a demographic for it's treatment of your demographic. Think of Jew's hating Germans/Nazis due to their treatment of Jews. Same as Palestinians/Arabs hating zionist/Jews due to their treatment of Palestinians/Arabs.

[@yin3229]

Thinks Oppenhimer is a bad movie. Also thinks that X-men Jennifer Lawrence line isnt bad. I am positively baffled at how terrible his entertainment takes are.

[@jessetatum5275]

I've never seen Hasan. Show any humility ... nor have I seen him apologize

[@Mitchincredible]

Aamon Animations should do a Evangelion ending parody again with Hasan on the beach with Ethan and a giant Stalin head in the background.

[@TheAckattack13]

Whats hilarious is that Jordan Peterson warned Ethan about this very thing.

[@RealityCheckTime]

Time to go touch the grass folks!

[@aes0p895]

ethnicities can be really cut along almost any kind of line as long as it provides some kind of 'useful' distinction. race, religion, even profession if it changes the way ppl live enough and creates 'groups'. it's a very flexible word.

[@aes0p895]

It's actually sad watching destiny flail on the 'ethnicity' point. here's the definition of ethnicity: "the quality or fact of belonging to a population group or subgroup made up of people who share a common cultural background or descent." So he's 100% wrong and telling people to write others off if they actually know the definition.

[@Mia_starlight]

Hassan is so unbelievable bad faith IDk how people still watch him

[@KilimnikGenya]

The worse his political takes get the more fans he gets. It’s almost like it’s all just a grift. But the way he used Ethan for views is also quite telling to his character.

[@NairuOnLife]

Destiny seems to be right on the difference of definition between ethnicity and race between Canada and America. I definitely had the opposite idea from what he was describing here. Or, at least right in my case anyway.

[@willybur7779]

I'm a far-right conservative Trump/Vivek supporter, and I have been BINGE WATCHING Destiny for the lask week. I don't agree with a lot of what he says, but I love that he's critical of both sides and fairly intellectually honest.

[@TheBostonboy95]

🤡

[@MonkeyDLuffy-gd6se]

@@Section8dc im apparently a little left leaning but considered myself primarily right, i think the diversity in political stances of destiny's community is a good thing. Since hes a political streamer, you can easily tell the streamers stance by their audience. In case of steven its probably quite central, since he has a lot of opinions on both sides. hasan's views are so far extreme left that it really is no different from fascism.

[@brettfeinbaum]

Leftovers with Destiny would go CRAAAAZYYYY

[@ussassu]

Centerovers

[@FringeSpectre]

Ethan needs to sit down and actually watch a Hasan stream, and then he would see exactly why his chat is the way it is.

[@gulag_arch]

Whelp there goes that Twitch unban

[@linkszxx]

KZbin is better tbh

[@gulag_arch]

@@linkszxx 100% agree. But he can't talk to people streaming on Twitch since he's banned.