Is it Okay for Men to Cheat?

After the West Elm Caleb incident, the Incel counter-attack is finally here...
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[@rtmpgt]

"men look at sex like taking a piss" That's just the saddest thing i've ever heard.

[@celestegarcia923]

It really is.

[@cosmicreef5858]

That would mean that you do not feel anything and you just want to get over it? That is literally the opposite as what sex should be. That is a sad life.

[@joys8634]

Not really sad lmao. Every girl you have s3x with isn't really important lol. Only religious people have this take

[@tamialeslie7187]

Incel alert

[@yazminlares6000]

@@joys8634 I mean, casual sex is a common thing and nice yk, but it’s just kinda sad to hear the “sex is like taking a piss” something meh, when sex is supposed to be special and feels nice even if it’s a hookup. Btw, aftercare is also important in hookups!

[@CrybabeBB]

The video you watched edited this moment out but in the original video when Brittany asked him “what makes you special?” his jaw actually dropped and for several seconds he had nothing to say, it was so beautiful to watch.

[@Grrranola]

Noice

[@CA-ly7my]

Brittany Renner literally went to college basketball games to search for young naive basketball players who looked like they might go pro, then picked one, got pregnant by him, and then immediately divorced him to collect child support and alimony. She admitted that this was her plan all along because basketball players are “stupid” by her words. This was a bad example for Hassan to use. I have no sympathy for Brittany renner.

[@starchannel123]

@@CA-ly7my Her bad actions have nothing to do with this. Just like someone can be a bad husband but good father. People can make mistakes but that doesn’t mean they can’t be right about some things.

[@CA-ly7my]

@@Antigonex “back then” she did this like a couple months ago and still does it. In fact colleges hire her to educated young athletes to look out for predatory women who want their money. If that isn’t a red flag idk what is.

[@CA-ly7my]

@@starchannel123 all I’m saying is that this was a bad example for Hassan to use. She’s literally a much more dangerous person than any of the men she was talking to.

[@johnsonyip1127]

"NO BITCH, I AM NOT INSECURE!" he screamed hysterically

[@streeterville773]

That's only in the movie. In the book he says it calmly.

[@sallylovests]

@@streeterville773 😭

[@vailingbow1068]

And he says women are "emotional" LOL.

[@brialeah7351]

LMAO

[@dejaturner6067]

If men view sex with women as “just taking a piss” then why do THESE same men worry about a girl’s body count and who she had and have sex with? Make it make sense? 🙄🙄

[@HienPham-ow5ky]

I agree with this

[@baonguyenxuanthai711]

i know right ? lol

[@ashhcatchemall]

because they think men deserve better treatment. for making more money and whatever the fuck they think they're bringing to the table. bunch of bullshit cause there are millionaire guys with morals.

[@eva1585]

Because they dont want a woman with experience who can tell their game sucks

[@elhaynie1]

The same reason I don’t wanna take a piss in a truck stop bathroom

[@sophiamaryn5232]

Hes directly telling women they should feel insecure and accept abuse from men. Thats crazy. The absolute ignorance and insecurity coming from these men are disgusting.

[@jamesg9583]

he is telling that only to women who think they have a right to be with a rich man, if a woman wants a normal man she can build with then they don’t condone cheating, if a woman is a gold digger trying to find the richest man then he can cheat

[@zet7670]

​@@jamesg9583 Fair play women can cheat if he's only after looks. Equality for stupidity.

[@D_McGeezacks]

@@jamesg9583 Why are these rich men girlfriending or wifing gold digging women then? Do they do this even knowing she's probably going to leave him and take a chunk of his assets? How irresponsible. Still not an excuse to cheat. He's well within his rights to live as a bachelor...just fucking be a bachelor.

[@kstar1489]

@@jamesg9583 this makes zero sense. Why doesn’t the man just find a different woman?

[@SlothhhKinggg]

@@D_McGeezacks They know, but, most of those sugar daddy types are in their 50s and 60s and just want an attractive female by their side before they die.

[@averagegoslingenthusiast2033]

What’s sad is that for a lot of men out there, it only takes one breakup before they fall down this rabbit hole and never come back up

[@Grrranola]

So true

[@carsonfarmer1074]

Facts

[@CA-ly7my]

What’s sad is that Brittany renner is a predator and men should be cautious around her, especially young successful black atheletes.

[@Michael-jq5pf]

Not wrong. I've had to pull myself out of the beginning stages of that hole a few times. I think it happens for women as well. All depends on how things end and the context of the breakup. Falling fully into that "women/men bad" place forever is borderline inexcusable though. My best friend, unfortunately, is still sortof living in that and I can't see him changing anytime soon

[@averagegoslingenthusiast2033]

@@CA-ly7my ur not wrong. Is it racist of me to say that as an outsider looking in, the dynamic between younger black men and women seems incredibly toxic? It seems like both demographics just hate each other lol. Obviously this sounds like a crass generalisation but it just seems to be more and more popular

[@shelbyausich6768]

Whenever a woman is passionate he says "seems like you are talking out of emotion right now" to try and disregard everything they just said.... and then he screams so triggered like this but that's not emotion? A literal walking contradiction

[@zet7670]

Anger is only an emotion if women do it

[@shelbyausich6768]

@@zet7670 lmao apparently 😂😂

[@chikoo.chinon1497]

Men can’t be emotional and if they are is can’t be used against them (according to them probably)

[@cosodesign8953]

It’s manipulative as hell.

[@esch4920]

So as a man think i have to tell you this.. Men are more emotional and impulsive then woman. You can look it up it might be fun to tell insecure boy's like fresh and fit this.

[@Pirirun]

As the offspring of a man like this, let me tell you. I hated him for how horribly he treated my mother. I would always tell myself, I'll make sure my partner is nothing like you. He had a ton of misogynistic friends too and they all ended up divorced with children that don't even bother talking to them. Being an "alpha" when you're young might sound fun but when your old and alone with multiple ex-wives and children that hate you, it doesn't sound like such an appealing lifestyle.

[@uncertain_zee]

Same here 🖐️ i was the last kid he had and the only girl and i think he realized he was gonna end up alone with all the mistakes he was making so he tried harder to control me and break me down so I'd be dependent on him because that's the only way he sees for having people stay with him, but obviously just as with his partners, it only makes me wanna get out as soon as I can and never speak to him again.

[@MG-uj7ng]

Exactly, that's what many of them don't realize until it's too late. Then guess who they blame for their sorry state,😂

[@alwff]

same

[@ozge8262]

i have an uncle like this. he cheated on my aunt multiple times and in one of those instances my cousin, 5-6 years old at the time, saw her dad cheating. my aunt divorced him and his daughter despises him now. she never visits him and he keeps bothering her and my aunt because he realized that he's getting old and he needs people that'll look after him and value him. unfortunately that doesn't happen when you spend your life ruining peoples lives.

[@ithinkiknowme6450]

Same storm…we’re all in the same storm…😔

[@galvachev]

“I’M VERY SECURE!” he yelled into the mic

[@AhmadM25]

that has me dying🤣🤣😂😂😂

[@Johnnygga]

Lmao.

[@zking2929]

It's hilarious

[@v_g_v_]

LMAO good one 🤣

[@gianniavido2289]

"I'm very secure" said Dumbledore calmly

[@Snarl_Marx]

That woman has the patience of a saint. I don't think I'd last 10 words into a conversation with these clowns before wanting to go absolutely postal.

[@tomfassel6563]

This woman is a complete pos who had a baby with an nba player just to leave him and collect child support. Please just stop smh

[@tomfassel6563]

@@g3kn262 lol you really think celebrities and athletes are monogamous. Thought you won this one huh? Explain why before she ever got with him she had an ig story talking about how to trap an nba player. Stop making excuses for another pos woman. This chick has dated Ben Simmons, Jamal Murray and James Harden who are all NBA players. Drake, Tyga, Trey Songz, Chris Brown, Lil Uzi Vert who are all singers/rappers. And she’s dated Colin Kaepernick and Casey Therriault who are both Football players. This girl is a straight up celebrity/athlete groupie looking for the pay day and PJ Washington was the idiot who knocked her up and gave it to her.

[@epictubegamer]

@@g3kn262 shes still a pos. stop, and shes made alot of predatory videos. theyre both bad

[@twawndawlight102]

She's a bad person but seeing her drag him was absolutely beautiful

[@princesssailor4378]

@@tomfassel6563 just bc celebs are monogamous DOESNT mean that she is. She don’t have to settle down for a cheater

[@nostop8894]

“Men don’t ask for much” And then “Be a virgin but also be good at sex, be interesting but also have no opinions, be pretty but also get no attention from other men, make sure to always look perfect but have no standards with how men look, LOVE YOUR MAN EVEN THOUGH HE TREATS YOU LIKE SHIT” “All women want are resources” And then “Just don’t cheat”

[@anojs8720]

@Matias Martinez have you watched the video?

[@deeky1239]

No one is saying that, stop being lazy with the straw man. That just makes you look weak.

[@somethingsomething9006]

The over-emphasis on wanting a virgin seriously blows my mind, and this often comes from other virgins. I understand being worried that your lack of experience may make a bad impression on someone with experience, but I've met a fair amount of guys who have outwardly stated that their interest in someone went down when they found out they weren't virgins. It's some of the most disgusting ways to think about sex and other people in general, and I can't comprehend it.

[@tatiana4050]

@@somethingsomething9006 i get virgin wanting a virgin like you know delusions about true love or like romanticism purity and innocence, religion or whatev. But serial daters, wanting virgins, is trully disgusting. Because they basically see them like a fucking cum tissue. And like "women get used up their vaginas get looser" makes no sense. Even if the presumption that vaginas get used up was true (its not). The more partners woman had, the most likely she had less sex with each one.

[@user-sp5ck4fs1n]

@@deeky1239 then can you clarify?

[@Khirna2]

I'm kind of tired of people saying men don't attach emotion to sex in the same way. Man here. I do. The idea of cheating on my wife is awful. Like it actually makes me sad. Stop generalizing your toxic traits to all men (aimed at toxic "alpha" males, not Hassan)

[@HienPham-ow5ky]

I agree with this 100%

[@shenewnguyen]

Truly. When I hear other men say that it sounds like a lie theyre convincing themselves to be true. I dont openly express my emotions but im a human being and I sure as hell have them, they are definitely important in forming attraction and love for another person.

[@HienPham-ow5ky]

@@shenewnguyen i agree with this 100 %

[@divamarvalousoneal2454]

Your pix tho😭

[@mintycokies8057]

Guys like you makes me sigh in relief that majority of men are not thinking like this. Because if they are id prob die alone lmfao

[@ashenone3883]

Disgusting, nobody should cheat, not men, not women, not ANYBODY.

[@nialllappin4159]

Only if the person you're cheating with is an upgrade from your previous cummdummp

[@brianholmes6392]

just dump them and move on.

[@Rhodair]

at its most basic level, the issue with cheating is _dishonesty_ there can be a world of justifications or context that makes some not as bad as others, but it still comes back to lying to your partner you're not respecting someone when you lie to them

[@RiceBiomedicine]

@@Rhodair It's more fundamentally problematic than dishonesty, though. It's a violation of the love you've established for and with another person. I think it needs to be reviled as being worse than lying, otherwise emotionally immature people will keep finding ways to justify it.

[@zet7670]

@@Rhodair People cheat and tell

[@alij7047]

Misogyny is never attractive. Period.

[@alij7047]

And, for the record, my fiancé and I are poly. We set the rules, together, of what is acceptable and what would constitute "cheating."

[@hokutorosario3515]

@@alij7047 wait as in like …. Polynesian or ?

[@alij7047]

@@hokutorosario3515 Polyamorous

[@reaverfang377]

"Bruh, I only ever tell her that she's useless. Why won't love me. Wtf broooo" -pinnacle of attractive and desirable, clearly

[@themajesticspider-man6116]

@@hokutorosario3515 Homie said "polynesian" lmaoooo

[@TheHrunted]

These guys have the maturity level and social skills of a 2 year old. They want to play with everyone's toys, but no one can play with their toys.

[@rVnsunshine]

@Cornelia I’m pretty sure they put it like that to highlight how these men think about and treat women. You’re absolutely right it is gross, but that is 100% how they act and think-that women are their toys.

[@zet7670]

@Cornelia No shit sherlock, that's how they view it

[@TheHrunted]

@Cornelia Didn't mean to start some shit with this. @rVnsunshine 's comment is correct. I phrased it like that to show how dehumanizing these guy's views towards women are. They view them as objects to be played with and abused and f*ck whatever they think, they're just things. The reaction you had is what I would hope any good and decent human being would have to their view towards women. It's certainly not my personal view.

[@zet7670]

@Cornelia How would you explain it then

[@TheHrunted]

​@Cornelia This is a strange argument. If this were a video about the Holocaust and I commented "These Nazi's are bad, they treat Jewish people like cockroaches", would you be offended by my comment? Would I be repeating dehumanizing nazi shit? Serious question.

[@djmir4]

I almost fell into the trap of watching those guys post divorce. I was in a really vulnerable place and was looking for reasons my marraige ended instead of just accepting it. These guys are toxic af.

[@Miz_amie]

Always remember you are better than this bs there are bad men and women out here but there are so many good men and women out here too I'm sorry about ur divorce but ull be ok

[@djmir4]

@@Miz_amie funny thing is divorce wasn't even terrible. We are still friends. It just ended up not working the way we wanted it to. I started blaming myself through no fault of hers going through all the phases of mourning a loss and what not.

[@sirkook8769]

That's their entire audience. They degrade women yet devote their entire channel on women and chasing women.

[@idontcare7340]

I'm pretty sure these guys prey on men like you to get into their pathetic echo chamber so that they can sell their books or courses. Hate is so easy to sell.

[@everythingsfine1395]

@@djmir4 Does she took half of your money

[@sebastian8278]

Dudes will hear these guys say that “1% men” can cheat and say they’re spitting, meanwhile they’re broke asf and don’t even have a gf to cheat on

[@AhmadM25]

bro i cringed so hard listening to these mf talk. like cheating is not only about u its about ur significant other too. there is so much more too

[@Mr___f]

Dude here: what about "1% women"? I'd like to hear their thoughts on why only one gender of 1%ers should be allowed to cheat. Can't believe people would take these clowns seriously

[@anzabi1543]

I firmly believe that anyone who says "same box, same pu*sy" Has only ever had sex with a literal fake pu*sy box, yk, one of those pocket-vag1nas, and if they ever find a woman it's gonna be one who hasn't learned to respect herself yet but hopefully will soon and probably will leave them

[@sflaw5581]

@@Mr___f because hypergamy

[@RiceBiomedicine]

@@Mr___f People unironically take Ben Shapiro's every word seriously, so anything's possible.

[@ericb.4313]

"I'M NOT INSECURE!" That's a sign you *are* insecure. Own up to it and if you're truly not insecure, then show it.

[@CynicalBastard]

He has his own podcast.

[@ericb.4313]

@@CynicalBastard That means nothing. You can have a podcast or career in any other medium and still be insecure.

[@Bound4Earth]

@@CynicalBastard Yeah and is also insecure as fuck. If you are an actual nice guy, you never once say that phrase. Check out r/niceguy and you will realize that actual nice guys do not have "was nice ten times now date me" cards. Just like if you are secure, you don't have to constantly claim not to be insecure. It is a self report.

[@DieNibelungenliad]

How do you show how not insecure you are?

[@juzaaa]

@@DieNibelungenliad Insecure people don't bring the topic up as "insecurities", even though they should be just taken up for discussion. These guys on the pod straight up denying them and don't see their own insecurities. They deny deny and deny until hopefully someone makes them think.

[@IIIIaAallll]

Fresh & Fit sounds like some vegan food delivery service.

[@henrynguyen3405]

Actually have a bro that’s brainwashed by em, call him a in cell cuz of that mentality.

[@SubSalicylate]

Same, reminds me of HelloFresh

[@alcidesprieto1967]

@GELAS PECAH🔞 this is like the 4th time I've seen this spammer today and on different content makers

[@mischr13]

I thought it was a diet and workout channel lol

[@dr1flush]

I've seen a video of them making some points on gold diggers and toxic women . But this guy's got issues

[@josh043p6]

I've seen a clip of this guy and he basically said if your girlfriend says something dumb, you should purposely leave it on read, then leave your phone out and have her see it so she can think about what she said. This dude is a terrifying sociopath. He thinks you should basically treat women like dogs

[@Coastpsych_fi99]

Right, he also teaches other men to act like this and it’s actually insane!!

[@foximoxi8533]

Like 99% of what he says is dumb. Does his girlfriend just leave a laptop out on the kitchen table with his podcast playing all day?

[@payasoinfeliz]

This guy has whole arguments, whole battles of wits, whole universes, marvel universes, swimming around in his head.

[@Mhojito53]

Jeez. Dogs deserve better than sociopaths too. I wouldn't trust my dog with these guys ngl

[@elitecoder955]

What's wrong with leaving people on read ? Are you really that soft ?

[@NecrozmaJade]

“You can still love your girl while wildly disrespecting her feelings”

[@OG_ALviK]

What if you are married, with kids an dsuch and she doesn't want to give you sex? Wellcome to your average 5-10 years of marriage.

[@NecrozmaJade]

@@OG_ALviK Then you don’t love your wife.

[@user-sp5ck4fs1n]

@@OG_ALviK if sex is that crucial to you don’t get it relationships. And you sound a bit like a Neanderthal. Sex generally speaking should not be that detrimental to your relationship in order for you to respect it.

[@OG_ALviK]

@@user-sp5ck4fs1n @55 Guess no point in talking with you guys

[@D_McGeezacks]

@@OG_ALviK If you need sex so badly that you're willing to cheat, it's time to move on. The right thing to do is to break it off. You don't love her at that point

[@nunyabusiness1797]

Violation of your partners trust is never okay and never will be

[@feelthelove3725]

whos nunya

[@TheQueen-sw4th]

These bots are early

[@dieauferstehung]

Actually it is. u not special GET MAD , hasan cheated plenty of times btw. HAHAHAH he is literally a chad redpilld and actig like u have a chance

[@moonshinei]

@@dieauferstehung but he’s never dated anyone

[@TheQueen-sw4th]

@@dieauferstehung Eh. You tried:)

[@JauntyCrepe]

"Men don't catch feelings" "all box is the same" Ok then what is the appeal of cheating? It's all the same but you need variety? You don't get feelings associated with sex but the appeal of this other person is so great that you need to betray someone else's trust to fvck them? The lack of logic is astounding

[@rdeal8912]

I think a lot of guys really do objectify women in the most literal sense. They see a new woman as a shiny new toy

[@dajoker8998]

They want to be psychopaths but they aren’t

[@sophiamaryn5232]

its having power over women bc theyre insecure

[@twentysix1230]

Big logic fallacy on their part it’s so obvious! Cognitive dissonance is strong in these ones.

[@FloofyMinari]

They don't see Men having sex with other woman as cheating since it's more of an instinctual urge that all men have. As they said, it's like taking a piss and sometimes you don't want to stare at the same blank wall. The issue is the lie. As long as you're honest upfront there is nothing wrong with it.

[@toomuchsci-fi]

Whenever a guy would brag about how many women he slept with, I would respond, "oh that sucks, no one wanted to sleep with you more than once, bless your heart ". Throws them off most every time

[@username-ew2jr]

Lmao good one

[@ihanakaunotar2741]

True, they’re alone.

[@l2method]

As if we care

[@trompette4485]

In most cases, when a guy sleeps with a lot of women, it's the guy that moves on, but the girl wants a relationship. So your roast doesn't really work.

[@ihanakaunotar2741]

@@trompette4485 where are you basing this on? Your own study or anecdotal evidence? Most women who go with a guy first time don’t have intention of a relationship anyway.

[@soupkabukii]

“You can still love your girl and cheat on her” I wouldn’t call it love if you didn’t even take the time to think about how terrible your actions will most likely make her feel (or if you did you just don’t care). That would eat a lot of women up inside especially if you’ve never expressed wanting an open relationship.

[@DJaydoubleA]

it’s the fundamental flaw with these incels. They can’t empathize with women and have visors on that INSIST that all women are some kind of way and looking to get what they can out of any situation

[@Noa-g1ex]

They're goddamn embarrassing, im speechless

[@Rage_Harder_Then_Relax]

Love is over rated.

[@Noa-g1ex]

@@Rage_Harder_Then_Relax ok edgelord speak for yourself dude, damn 😂

[@fluidthought42]

@@DJaydoubleA It's kinda funny cuz I've seen the pinkpill subreddit and they justify gold digger behavior by citing these exact kind of dudes and their outlooks as being the norm for men. If men won't be monogamous and put effort into an emotional connection, then why not just use them as walking ATMs and as a means to an end? In other words, toxic behavior feeds into toxic behavior, and the next dude who comes along after a bad breakup will feel like he was used for his money and not loved for being himself and then shut himself off and use women only for sex and think that money is all that matters to women. The yin and yang of being toxic.

[@Vincisomething]

"men don't ask for much... just don't sleep with other guys before you even knew I existed." Sounds like someone who's very secure /s

[@zet7670]

Baggage

[@edan5767]

That’s some alpha/omega fated werewolf pair wattpad book type shit💀

[@Vincisomething]

@@edan5767 wattpad fanfiction writers probably write better than he ever will lol... but this is something they would write lmao. Hardin chill

[@edan5767]

@@Vincisomething NOT HARDIN-💀

[@beastcarleeto707]

@Task Force Bloomer Cool same thing for men then

[@BooshMasterOriginal]

I'm really glad feminism became a huge thing, because guys like Fresh & Fit make guys like me seem perfect by comparison. And I'm just an average guy who's got his life together and treat women like people.

[@JimJamTheAdmin]

It's kind of sad, I can look like the most progressive man on the planet by simply not hating women. It takes more work to hate women and we see here that some men are always willing to put in the work, which is wild because they are so lazy when it comes to their actual relationships. Mainly, think of how many shitbags can just wear the veneer of progressivism to get dates. The bar is this low and I hate it.

[@teteteteta2548]

@@JimJamTheAdmin I’m not too worried though, eventually I see a relationship revolution coming in the years that will very much help people love each other well

[@CreationsFlare]

Its even worse when you realize they must've had an audience to get to this point. Like damn.

[@deeky1239]

@@teteteteta2548 That starts with doing away with dating apps lol.

[@b00psn00t]

What a nice guy

[@ksis86]

If he thinks all women are the same and none of us are special, then what is the incentive to cheat? If you’re cheating on your woman with another woman who’s “the same” and “not special” then there’s literally no point to doing it in the first place because you’re not getting anything new out of it. The only thing you get is a pissed off girlfriend or a divorce lmao

[@HienPham-ow5ky]

Also, isnt it funny that men always preach about holding women accountable for their actions, yet always defending other men for their behaviors, just like women to avoid repsonsibilities. After reading the comments here, i realize that some men( not all) will never hold other men accountable. Its as if accountability is their krytonite or something lol🤣

[@dna8269]

As a guy we are very visually driven and the saying “the best pussy is new pussy” has an element of truth to it. Sleeping with another type of woman you’re attracted to can be stimulating and exciting, so that would be the incentive. It’s a vanity thing

[@sou1721]

@@dna8269 stop acting on your emotions gosh

[@titandarknight2698]

@@dna8269 So a power play sort of situation?

[@StoicBehavioR]

If every women thinks she is special. Doesn't that make all women the same?

[@ralphcoryeaiv3963]

These guys care more about what men think about them than the women they date. That’s why he said “don’t embarrass me and fuck other guys” focusing the importance on how good he looks to other men rather than the value of the relationship.

[@ElaineLoyd]

Why is it not embarrassing to the woman that her man is fucking other guys.

[@jeremymulamba3575]

Alot of the misogony of many men this generation is predicated on making an impression towards other men more so than treating a woman with respect, especially a woman within a relationship.

[@JJ-qv8co]

Fatherless behaviour... what else to expect. Endless cycle..

[@jamesg9583]

@@ElaineLoyd because women on average want a man who can attract women, you ever noticed how girls go after guys who are around a bunch of women, instead why not go for the guy who has no girls, yall do it to yourselves

[@Jesterisim]

@@jamesg9583 incel detected

[@imfiveone7158]

thinking that women have to be attached emotionally to have sex is such a bad take lol

[@scifisyko]

Yeah like I thought a basic tenet of their beliefs was that women are all whøres.

[@zet7670]

More so I would say

[@mushroom8521]

somehow thinking no man needs emotional attachment to have sex is worse

[@PlatinumAltaria]

To be fair they've never listened to a woman.

[@504sweetiepie]

Insane

[@3gles006]

They should rename their podcast to Short & Balding.

[@usucculentcow2988]

Fuck thats a good one lmao

[@Lkjhgfvf]

Fear & Malding

[@honk42069]

Okay, let's not body shame that's lame

[@angelvu]

@@honk42069 it was a little humorous tho

[@3gles006]

@@honk42069 Not even when said subject is a misogynistic rat?

[@OchiiDinUmbraa]

"Men can cheat on their girlfriend and still love her" Why is this guy talking in the name of all men? HI, im a 25 man, and i never had sex with a girl i didnt had feelings for and i will never do it. If i were to cheat on my girlfriend, it would mean i dont love her anymore. Therefore, your argument completely falls apart because im a counter example.

[@HienPham-ow5ky]

I agree with this

[@EmyN]

Yeah and it's not about that, it's not rather you can still have feelings for your partner, but about respecting that person and the relationship

[@samnur6957]

@@EmyN never heard it from that perspective. It seems you agree that men and women have sex differently then ?

[@EmyN]

@@samnur6957 Hi! I don't disagree with the OC but I think it's more about respect, i.e. what I said in my comment. Because according to Helen Fisher, PhD, Biological Anthropologist, you can love someone and still cheat on them, because the areas of love and lust in your brain are different and separate. So it doesn't matter to me if you love me, if you cheat on me it's a violation of my trust and love and partnership, I guess if you love one enough you will respect that, and I think that's how it should go to every relationship. Hope I was clear! You should check her out! She's lovely, she has a video on WIRED that is superb

[@elsingon7464]

Every man cheats !!!... If you disagree... Go get your Testosterone level check out

[@pissedbutlogical7453]

They don’t give advice to men. They give advice to sad rejected little boys, who think men are supposed to act like douchebags. Men take care of there business and understand that not everyone you approach will like you. Men take care of there family and never disgrace them by stepping out or talking like a douche.

[@AhmadM25]

facts

[@tinglingspideysense]

True or at least don't be dumb and embarrass your family.

[@nati7728]

You're describing being a decent human in general but I can get behind the machismo at the same time.

[@tinglingspideysense]

@@nati7728 I'm so tired of this whole toxic masculinity bs. Literally anytime a man expresses any type of confidence in anything they do it's a problem lol.

[@pissedbutlogical7453]

@@nati7728 well that’s what makes it somewhat appealing to someone not smart enough to see through the bull

[@gracepan2]

as a woman constantly angered by the patriarchy, it genuinely does help to know that this man is always sad

[@tropik5724]

hahahaha go cry

[@tomfassel6563]

Angered by the patriarchy? Oh you mean the world you live in built by men that allows you to even talk like this? Wtf is wrong with people these days

[@gracepan2]

@@tropik5724 nah im happy

[@gracepan2]

​@@tomfassel6563 i'm not going to bow down to the patriarchy/men for oppressing our asses and then deciding to give us some rights when women got angry enough to protest. men didn't give me my rights, women did.

[@kat7477]

@@tomfassel6563 so you agree that women shouldn't have rights? incelesting...

[@restinginn9906]

Ask them if their mother should be cheated on and if it's ok if their father cheats on their mother. Legit. That seems to hit the hardest with young men these days. They treat women like objects until it's a family member in a hypothetical situation.

[@sflaw5581]

that probably one of the dumbest take i've ever heard. no man is gonna rethink his behavior because "why if it was mommy" bullsh*t argument.

[@normandy2501]

Depending on how old the guy is that you ask, you'd pretty much be barking up the wrong tree. Back when guys could support families on damn near any number of jobs, there would be whole families made that wouldn't even know about each other until the funeral.

[@restinginn9906]

@@sflaw5581 Why not? You didn't provide any argument at all.

[@floopsiemcsoops6008]

@@sflaw5581 I had a guy tryna fight me after I asked him 'what if I did that to your sister/girlfriend/mom' when he was catcalling random women on the street. A lot of these dudes are very sensitive about their female family members, but dont consider random women actual human beings.

[@sflaw5581]

@@floopsiemcsoops6008 he didn't rethink his behavior tho

[@moustacheandnisi]

These guys exist to make random normal average men seem perfect😂 Thank you😂

[@baonguyenxuanthai711]

i agree with this 100%

[@mjjoseph4194]

Fax I be feelin as a man I can do no wrong listening to them 😭

[@Alic4444]

It's horrible... but true 😅

[@ihanakaunotar2741]

Legit I was afraid for a while all men were like that, but started to hear men saying no. My dad talks against this too and I realized how appreciative I am of just normal decent men.

[@thressawatts4501]

@@ihanakaunotar2741 i felt the same way, and then I talked to my dad about it and he was so against what these men were saying, I felt so much better. I love decent normal men with a moral compass.

[@Tom-yj3dw]

Let's be real, this is type of podcast that is deliberately made for incels

[@KingJT80]

total redpill shit

[@christian5214]

yeah its def not for "high value" men, mfs are delusional and got so many guys following their scripture, they're missing something in their life

[@CorrectionUnknown]

And they lap it up!

[@JJ-qv8co]

Fatherless behaviour... what else to expect. Endless cycle..

[@transform9883]

I don't think that Hasan Habibi is an incel. But then again, he does paint his nails and wears pearl necklaces as a man in his thirties. So you are probably right about him being an incel making incel podcasts, only Habibi truly knows

[@barninghurtsalot3054]

its so sad to see that especially older gens of women simply expect their male partner to cheat. i remember talking to my mum, who is smarter and earns much more money than my dad, justifying to my face why it would be ok for men to cheat bc they "sometimes cant control themselves". she was clearly sad and dejected and could have used the moment to tell her daughter to get a better partner. instead she, despite all her accomplishments and self worth judt bowed to the idea that men cant help themselves bc otherwise she'd have to face the reality thar her husband quite simply doesn't respect her

[@DJaydoubleA]

respect is taught and some people just don’t have any, im so sorry for her experience

[@sabsain2399]

That's so gross. Suggesting the idea that men aren't capable of controlling themselves and can't form meaningful relationships is just plain sexist.

[@zambot264]

Marriage is about duty not personal happiness. But nowadays it's not. Thus low marriage rates and high divorce rates in the west.

[@sabsain2399]

@@zambot264 All I hear from you is: "pee pee poo poo"

[@zambot264]

@@sabsain2399 thank you

[@jackblasbalg7936]

screaming youre not insecure while saying how you get mad about when a woman has been with guys other than you before you were dating is the definition of insecurity

[@midnight6284]

I don't like that my gf has been with other guys because I'm possessive LMAO

[@jackblasbalg7936]

@@midnight6284 she's your gf now, which means youre better than those other guys in her eyes.

[@pa1154]

Imagine him as your brother. "Bro, my bf cheated on me" "Cheating is just a man's nature. Accept that."

[@yupyup1435]

wtf

[@yoursnatchedwig2856]

"You aint special anyways"

[@lasagna4859]

If a man ever cheats on me, it’s a wrap no second chances !!!

[@Grrranola]

Exactly. Once that trust is gone, it's GONE.

[@juanpeezzzieee4654]

what if you cheat on a man? do you think you deserve a 2nd chance ?

[@MNemerald]

@@juanpeezzzieee4654 No i think i should be able to cheat all i want. Bro why even ask this question

[@angelvu]

@@MNemerald LMAO

[@Cless]

@@MNemerald lulz

[@auto144p6]

also these types of dudes are the reason why people like me wondered about our sexuality in middleschool and early highschool. legit thinking im out here probably gay because i dont wanna dehumanize women and care about intimacy and shit. crazy.

[@moonscesssss]

Oh wow are u fr ?

[@auto144p6]

@@moonscesssss yeah. seeing the majority of fatherly figures/peer males completely disrespect and fuck with girls is gonna warp your perception of sexuality and "being a man"

[@moonscesssss]

@@auto144p6 Yk I actually thought about this a week ago when I found out about this podcast but I wasn’t too sure. Crazy though it really is

[@auto144p6]

@@moonscesssss yeah it's nutty. i'd like to think of myself as above-average intelligence and someone who was always introspective and analytical. i imagine young men more confused and less equipped than i was struggling with the same emotions and it's no wonder some fall down these rabbit holes. in no way is it justified or good, but i totally understand how it happens. also shoutsout to the strong ass badass women in my life who helped shape my healthy views on women :") real hero shit.

[@Delicious_Oreoz]

Yeah I would say leftism saved me. Being collectivist makes you care about others and try and solve societies problems etc. Versus conservatism which is hyper-individualistic and very much self centered.

[@userthatcanthang]

"All girls are the same, same box same everything" okay then why the need to sleep around? zero sense.

[@simpysompywomb5470]

@@xamphibiax I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s never been laid 💀

[@dna8269]

You’re lowkey agreeing that there isn’t anything else to women with your example here. The reason to sleep around in that case would be because their other attributes are still attractive enough to warrant the want for variety.

[@simpysompywomb5470]

@@dna8269 how are they agreeing? theyre using his logic against him, hence the quoation marks??

[@tjc4085]

@@dna8269 if we’re playing a game of logic then he’s lost considering his argument is that women are all the same, there’s no variety to them

[@Ahzpayne]

because the pretty bow wrapped around the box changes

[@luciadubois4478]

These guys At one point convinced me that I didn’t want a boyfriend because I was so scared to get cheated on

[@thegamewin100]

Holy crap they say that every man wants to cheat thats such a blatant lie I know theres good men out there you’ll find one hopefully

[@luciadubois4478]

@@thegamewin100 r u a dude ? If you are that gives me hope

[@thegamewin100]

@@luciadubois4478 yes im a dude some people have morality some don’t I cant just be with a girl for one night then just leave thats messed up and cheating is even worse rather get married honestly even if you get divorced its still a big investment and a learning experience

[@thegamewin100]

@Sumaya please don’t listen to these guys for all guys not every dude cheats this is such a stupid topic idk why they say this it might be because of my childhood being raised religious but cheating is wrong man or woman no exceptions

[@thegamewin100]

@Sumaya they want to be treated like kings and treat girls like trash im sorry to say it but this generation is getting worse and worse idk what to do probably would be best to move to a different country the girls and guys nowadays are just in a constant war it’s no fun at all it’s always men are trans or women deserve less I’m sick of it

[@donkeypunch2743]

This is what we like to call, motherless activity ladies and gentlemen

[@rdeal8912]

fr tho lol. where is your mom at for you to be saying things like this 💀?

[@iggypontz3745]

You mean mother hating behavior

[@zet7670]

Mum send them to their rooms

[@JJ-qv8co]

Fatherless behaviour... what else to expect. Endless cycle..

[@muah214]

Fatherless and they hold some hate for the mother and take it out on women

[@skippersthepenguin3591]

Imagine being a women, and dating him, your basically dating nothing, because he doesn't even have anything to give.

[@diamondintherough3892]

I agree with this lol🤣

[@VictoriaMalamova]

Agree

[@ihanakaunotar2741]

He legit doesn’t even believe giving an orgasm to his woman 😂 man is just useless.

[@erenssister.5535]

I am a woman. My vagina just dried up.

[@trompette4485]

Except for stability, protection, and probably a luxurious lifestyle because I'm pretty sure he has money.

[@josiea.3855]

"I'M NOT INSECURE" he screams, voice quivering, about to cry

[@ellieb8815]

The fact that he says “the father of your child” so many times like it has weight - the child I carried for nine months and pushed out my ‘box’? How about respect the mother of your child?

[@RexxyRobin]

If you can't be monogamous, be freaking honest about it.. too all your partners btw. I am fine dating someone polyamorous, but if he starts lying to me, gaslighting me, or banging some toxic chick who wants to remove me, we have a problem.

[@zet7670]

The other side is someone saying they can handle it but can't, be honest

[@the-unknown-1]

As simple as that. Leave monogamy to people who want to do it, if you don't want to be with one person all the time no one is forcing you to.

[@normandy2501]

@@zet7670 definitely this

[@Damood]

@@zet7670 it depends. It's very different, when the terms are clear from the beggining compared to someone deciding midway through that they want to sleep around

[@Lana.a_]

@@zet7670 That’s their lying manipulative ass problem.

[@maryamnabil6361]

As a 16 year old watching this guy’s videos. I was convinced with his words before. Because of how much I consumed his content, I was brainwashed. I am a girl and yet I degraded women and saw the worst in myself and in others. I used to seek male attention from misogynistic men. After long moments of reflection and thinking, I came to the realization that what he says is bullsh*t and I came back to who I was and remembered my principles and my thoughts about this situation. I’m talking about this because I’m insanely happy that people are starting to discuss more about his channel and how can affect others and I think bringing awareness of how crazy this guy is makes me feel seen way as corny as that sounds. Thank you so much.

[@kaitheinamori3112]

I was becoming the same way until I compared their teachings to the Bible and realised I shouldn’t be following them or even watching anymore

[@familymemes9947]

I am proud of you 😊

[@cakeday4058]

I can definitely relate to this. I used to act like this a few years back. I would see these videos about crazy feminists and think of how much I was ashamed of being a girl. I felt that I needed to justify being a woman. I guess my wake up call was when I got into an argument with this misogynistic guy.

[@nooral-sager6031]

I'm also a 16 yo girl that was consumed with their content and was agreeing with everything they were saying, because in my mind if i could attain a millionaire that would cheat on my sometimes, i wouldn't care. As more months went by, I started looking into other perspectives and completely ripped myself away for the horrible redpill community. I'd rather be with a man making 60k than a millionaire who cheats on me. I absolutely loathe fresh and fit now. And the worst part is my cousin likes him and I keep trying to convince here that he is a boarderline psychopath with rape, abuse, and manipulation tendencies. I'm still more leaning towards conservatism and would like a traditional marriage in the future, but my god, i'm SO glad i removed myself from their community.

[@grugcrood4000]

Very proud of you for getting out of that

[@TuxedoMasc]

I just don't understand these situations. If you don't want monogamy, then don't have it. Find a partner who doesn't want it either. Oh, I forget, they don't want actual human beings. They want living blow up dolls. I can only imagine being in these guys presence is akin to being stuck in an elevator with the giant baby from spirited away but more likely to assault you and then cry about it. Also, the argument that at a certain point a man's "power and wealth" should let him get away with cheating is just a few steps away from "he should be able to be a pedophile." So, yikes.

[@kh881]

The giant baby from spirited away, omfgggg💀

[@s-e-e-k-i-n-g]

@@kh881 yeah at the end of the day people like that just want to have their cake and eat it too. they just care about themselves, it was never about their partner(s) or their wants and comfort. it's just about themself

[@23Sarabi]

I like you very much, OP

[@IsomerSoma]

Spirited away is about sextraficking and prostitution in particular those of minors.

[@worldwideugly3753]

He's basically saying that if a man has money he can do whatever he wants without consequences. 💀

[@itsdivertido9020]

Isn't that how the world works though ? since the beginning of time men with power like Jeffery epstine did whatever they wanted and got away with it. Where is the black book enlisting all the culprits who frequently visited the epstine islands? The top 1% will always have the money, resources, and connections required to control and run the world as they pleased. It's not ideal but it is just the way the world has always operated.

[@trompette4485]

Which is true, when you look at celebrities, it's usually male celebrities that cheat even when married, and their wife is usually ok with it.

[@petalsofdesire]

I honestly don’t understand how these dudes aren’t gay. If they hate women so bad and don’t think they are special. Ok then date a dude since you think they are all so great?

[@trumellbradford9220]

Being gay is not about “hating women” wtf

[@leah6649]

They will be perpetually alone because no "high-tier" woman will be with a man that cheats and has no respect for them.

[@dajoker8998]

It’s about domination/sadism

[@cats1970]

They don’t want men, they wanna oppress women. Their ideal world is drinking with the homies and then enjoying all women of the world for themselves. The homies get none, just them.

[@petalsofdesire]

@@trumellbradford9220 i know don’t take it so literally lol i’m gay 🥲

[@marcohopkins194]

Post breakup: This is the exact video I needed in order to not go down a bad path of using women for my own pleasure to get over my ex. Thank you King

[@floopsiemcsoops6008]

Unless you're raping women or misleading them to have sex with them you're not 'using women for my own pleasure'. It's okay to have consensual casual sex with women. They like it too.

[@Noa-g1ex]

@@floopsiemcsoops6008 yh but not to get back at your ex or think you're doing something good for yourself and your integrity dude, going down that path is nothing but filling the void on temporary pleasure, there aint no introspection or lesson learned upon yourself that way. Wtf

[@floopsiemcsoops6008]

@@Noa-g1ex To feel desired by other (wo)men can help you gain the confidence to get back on your feet. It helped for me!

[@Noa-g1ex]

@@floopsiemcsoops6008 confidence and anything such as self worth and self esteem has to be given by yourself and by changing one's perspective/mindset/growth, just like you shouldnt rely your happiness on others becuz your mindset, emotions, would just be affected and tethered by how others act around you, and not be able to stand on your own two feets, i dont agree with what you say and do and i stand by that sleeping with wo(men) in order to get back at your ex or make yourself feel better/loved/fill the void, is just not the way to go, but to each their own i guess

[@janejanejaney]

@@Noa-g1ex Confidence is based on both external and internal validation. Depending on where you're at in life, different people need different extents and types of validation at different times. You're right that no one should rely on external validation and everyone benefits from self-evaluation and self respect. But people can do and have those things while also having casual sex post-relationship, if that's helpful for them.

[@jeanettemartinez5715]

Under his definition really if SHE cheated then HE fucked up. If SHE had to get to an emotional point in order to cheat then HE wasn’t taking care of HER emotionally.

[@zet7670]

Or the same as the guys, women do cheat for different reasons

[@RevolveR2011]

He says and agrees with this in his podcast multiple times. It's the dudes fault if the woman cheats on him. He didn't do what he was supposed to do and the woman doesn't respect him

[@floopsiemcsoops6008]

@@RevolveR2011 That's just self-hate turned into a defense mechanism. He's an insecure, hurt, control freak. Everyone who listens to their podcast is an idiot.

[@D_McGeezacks]

The idea that a woman can only cheat after getting to a certain emotional point is fundamentally flawed and highlights a baseless and mysoginystic double standard. JUST HAVE AN OPEN RELATIONSHIP.

[@tomfassel6563]

@@D_McGeezacks when would a women cheat then? And how is anything they said misogynistic?

[@BRgbv3277]

You have my respect for trashing on these men.

[@HienPham-ow5ky]

Also, isnt it funny that men always preach about holding women accountable for their actions, yet always defending other men for their behaviors, just like women to avoid responsibilities. i realize that some men( not all) will never hold other men accountable. Its as if accountability is their krytonite or something lol🤣.

[@Byanymeansnessary]

Myron is 💯 right about everything he say I wrestled with these thoughts in my head just think about all your past relationships and how much you have to fight yourself from cheating because of those desires to get something new or hot now ask yourself why are those desires there

[@junegreen3593]

​@@Byanymeansnessarylow sperm quality

[@bluntfruntac9981]

One thing that bothers me is when people say "She belongs to the streets", It's a way to pigeon hole people, it's telling women that they aren't free to choose. It just bothers the fuck out of me.

[@MrDoom159]

Nah, it's a way to out women who cheat, because anyone who cheats in general is a piece of shit. You can't excuse a group just because "it bothers the fuck out of you". There is a difference between "cheating" and "choosing", if you are fed up with your current relationship, just tell your man you're over with him and move on, cheating is kinda like asking your friend to meet up somewhere, but you don't come and leave them waiting without any warning, it feels like shit to be cheated out of your time. That's why the best choice is to politely break up with your partner let them know how they've wronged you instead of cheating and metaphorically telling them "I found someone better than your pathetic ass, I'll keep you around as my little trinket though, for when the cheating backfires"

[@DieNibelungenliad]

If you choose trash, you become trash. Fact

[@Windrider784]

Post body count

[@bluntfruntac9981]

@@MrDoom159 she belongs to the street doesn't mean that that women cheats. It means that that women can't commit. A women doesn't have to cheat to be told they belong to the streets. If they sleep around they can be accused of that. Hell they can even be accused of that if they don't sleep around. But alright, let's take what you say. Let's say a woman cheats on her man, does that mean that that women can and never will be faithful to anyone? As if people don't grow or change? Like it's just fucking stupid. It's so judgemental.

[@bluntfruntac9981]

@@DieNibelungenliad what's trash? Who's to judge that? What makes them trash? Because they have sexual relationships with people? Lol news flash, women fuck too. News flash, if a man fucks a lot that doesn't mean that he will never commit to a monogamous relationship. Shit lost the time when you hear someone say "she belongs to the streets" that girl isn't even having a lot of sex. It's a way of shaming women for being sexual creatures. Lol just because a girl doesn't want to commit to you doesn't mean she's for the streets only and the she can't commit. like who are you talking about, let's get with her and ask her if she would agree with you.

[@DonnieLouis]

Cheating makes more sense in a world where having more than one partner is looked down upon. Now if you want have multiple partners all you need to do is communicate. Even though there’s plenty of people who aren’t accepting, Poly relationships are becoming more popular. So just don’t pledge yourself to only one woman if that’s not what you want. Don’t lie to any of your partners

[@Otzkar]

bUT iF I LeT oThEr guYs fUCk mY gF i would bE a CuCK! :(

[@sabsain2399]

The problem is that that the dude is incredibly fucking terrified and horrified of being seen as a cuck so he needs to constantly delude himself into thinking it's never ever okay when women are the ones sleeping around and not him

[@mischr13]

True, but I also don't think misogynists should get into polyamory, it ends up being a different kind of messed up. they're never ok with their partner having other relationships, unless it's with women, cuz women aren't threatening apparently. it's so common there's even a name for it in the poly community: the one dick policy

[@acreativename2781]

@@sabsain2399 There aren't that many who think like that. Most guys who think it's okay for them to sleep with other women have no problem when the woman does it too.

[@mischr13]

I can't tell you how many times I've seen couples with the one dick policy break up cuz the girlfriend falls in love with her girlfriend that was only okayed cuz the misogynist boyfriend thought a woman couldn't be better in bed or treat her better. there's probably some biphobia involved too, they don't think bi women actually like women

[@gibbyazzolini2293]

Hell no. It ain’t right for anybody to cheat.

[@RR-et6zp]

men can love one woman and bang other girls biologically, we are very, vey different

[@RR-et6zp]

@THERAVIOSART Shorts men can love one woman and bang other girls biologically, we are very, vey different

[@catsup27]

It’s not ok for anyone to cheat. Man or woman. It’s a betrayal period.

[@ImMakEiTNasty]

But which one is worse

[@KiKekkosa]

@@ImMakEiTNasty they're the same thing xoxo

[@fifihmdh]

​@@KiKekkosayeah cheating is cruel no one deserve to be cheated on

[@pHo_O]

I feel like being a woman itself is tiring sometimes. Some people just don't see human beings as human unfortunately.

[@vivek27789]

Especially after yesterday's Roe V Wade reversal decision leak.

[@ianianianianian]

cheating is a big deal in gay relationships as well, so his point about men and women being different kind of doesn’t work. not that he cares lol

[@XxxxSamxxx]

You would know lol

[@bratty2987]

@@XxxxSamxxx are you sure youre a straight white male hahhahaa

[@XxxxSamxxx]

@@bratty2987 are you implying being gay is a bad or negative thing that someone should be embarrassed of? Your such a homophobe. What ever you say racist

[@jamieyoung9206]

@@XxxxSamxxx someone’s butthurt and I’m not talking about taking it from another man lol

[@XxxxSamxxx]

@@jamieyoung9206 is that person you? lol. Are you triggered? 😂

[@antimatter02]

as someone with a father with this kind of mentality, its really affected how i view myself and my own self worth. i always feel like i have to do whatever it takes to please men or else ill be thrown to the side. my dad makes it clear he sees women as trophies, including me. i must look a certain way, act the certain way, or else no one will want me and it'll be all my fault.

[@zambot264]

Don't listen to other commenter. Absolutely destructive advice for women. Also dont take your father's advice to the extreme. Just be fit feminine and friendly. Don't give your man a headache and help out. You'll be fine. Being single and dying alone is not the way

[@zambot264]

@@malgorzatawojtys9846 it's basic knowledge...your opinions are destructive. Scare tactics? If you don't have a family, who gonna be with you when you die? A nurse? Okay cool. Some friends? Okay lol

[@taraz6786]

@@zambot264 You do realize the rate of divorce right? You really think a woman can depend on a man these days, with the high statistics of domestic abuse, rapes by male partners, murders of female spouses, gaslighting, not to mention the laughable statistic of men being unfaithful, it’s outrageous. There are a bunch of other fun statistics too, did you know that a man is more likely to leave a woman if she has a terminal illness or really any chronic illness as opposed to a woman & the disparity is insane, I know because I’ve studied and researched it, feel free to do the same. The idea that a man will take care of you is not true, I mean I’m straight & I desperately wish I wasn’t. 😂 Also a man’s quality of life increases after marriage and a woman’s decreases & after divorce, men suffer more with mental health than in comparison to their female counterparts, I wonder why that is and it goes on and on and on. I’ve seen my mother and the majority of the women in my community lose their joy, spirits and soul because they believed men like you. I will never let a man destroy me, the way these poor women have been destroyed. Even now, they talk about their life with nothing but regret and misery and that’s clearly what you want for women, but I don’t want to be in despair & nor do I wish that on other women and girls.

[@zambot264]

@@taraz6786 do you know who initiates those divorces?

[@taraz6786]

@@zambot264 I mean you’ve essentially proven my point and are unable to disprove any of the stats, because deep down you are aware that for women, being with men is more egregious, soul crushing and particularly dangerous and unsafe than being without them.

[@MariaThePotterNut]

As someone on the ace spectrum, his situation of "if she doesn't want sex just call someone else so she will, or get rid of the time waster" is a terrifying thing, and hits way too close to reality of the few relationships I've been in. It hits all the insecurities, and I'm afraid if someone did this to me I would let it happen even if I truly did not want it to. It's hard enough to even approach dating someone, and if someone who had seemed understanding about the asexuality thing and then turned that around on me, saying it's either sex right then or get out because I'm replaceable and wasting his time.... Even a lower version of that was bad enough, something like that would really mess me up mentally. Like I'm not even that sex repulsed, I'd be willing to help you out, just- give me some time before getting to *that*. Rejection over that, and especially when it get's violent and "corrective" keeps me scared from even really trying to date, even though I'd love to be in a relationship.

[@RayvRayv]

Thank you for sharing your story.

[@alias3091]

That’s messed up

[@ThatBrunetteFromCali]

I feel you. I have literally been physically beaten by men who accused me of leading them on because I was uncomfortable with them. I’ve taken black eyes, uppercuts to the stomach & kicks to the backs because they couldn’t take my virginity & respect it.

[@stephaniecutting9223]

Hearing hasan talk about how you should be in a relationship, how you should respect a woman and completely condemning these guys behaviour is so so nice to see, I hope all the men who watch Hasan are taking that in and listening very carefully to him

[@OG_ALviK]

Well, yes. And F&F would probably agree with him on these points. Put the point that F&F were making is completely diffrent.

[@stephaniecutting9223]

@@OG_ALviK good to know. Wasn’t actually talking about F&F at all though. I was talking about how it’s really nice to hear the way Hasan speaks about women and how men should treat women they are in a relationship with and that I hope young men who watch Hasan listen and follow that because it’s really good, healthy advice

[@iheartlreoy8134]

@@OG_ALviK women shouldn’t cheat but men should

[@liyre4189]

it's literally so attractibve to hear the guy with hasan talk about how he doesn't enjoy sex if his partner isn't into it either. it's really not rocket science that if you are a kind, considerate dude who isn't an actual misogynist, people will actually like you

[@ansarchoudhary34345]

so the burden is only on men? not women?

[@cosodesign8953]

I find it so odd that men think they are the only ones capable of having sexual encounters without emotional attachment. As if most of what we do as humans isn’t driven by hormones. Women absolutely can have sex without emotional attachment. And plenty of men bond after sex. In fact, studies have found that men are MORE LIKELY to find sex to be a way to emotionally connect with their partners while women are more likely to view conversation as a way to emotionally connect. After knowing this, I find it hard to believe that a bunch of men are out there not bonding in some way to their sexual partners. I think men are just more prone to compartmentalizing their feelings and reactions to outside stimuli so in reality they’re emotional intelligence is lower. But they do mental gymnastics to make themselves think that they really don’t care about the sexual interaction.

[@memejuliyamemepuchkova4882]

“The first act of violence that patriarchy demands of males is not violence toward women. Instead patriarchy demands of all males that they engage in acts of psychic self-mutilation, that they kill off the emotional parts of themselves”. -Bell Hooks

[@IsomerSoma]

In soft science you can support almost any believe by just finding the one study which seems to support it. Singular papers in soft science mean almost nothing. If you look for the science on this you will see that there isn't a great gender difference, but that both have different ways of expressing themselves. It's ironic how your reaction to misagony is misandry and your "social intelligence" isnt high enough to realize it - a lot of "they" and a lot of talk about self-imagined "inferiority".

[@thevaza]

The thing also is if a guy cheats, he may not "feel any different", but the gf/wife will feel different. If caught, they'll either dump him, not trust him, or not respect him, or all of the above. However, how a women feels doesn't matter to them.

[@EmyN]

Ikr, that's why cheating is considered bad lol that's the whole point

[@miranda0298]

the idea that women should just be okay with men cheating on them because they have wealth and power is incredibly disgusting. how would these morons feel if someone said “if you as a man are with a woman who is extremely hot and desirable to other men, then you should be used to not having her for yourself” given that these guys seem to think that women’s main value is their looks/bodies and men’s main value is their success/power. i’m very sure that these dudes wouldn’t be too happy with that idea...

[@pr23487]

Well said

[@aobasuzukaze1032]

That Jordan Peterson fade in is just art

[@ForeignManinaForeignLand]

As de facto Ambassador of Blackness, I deplore Fresh & Fit

[@nunyabusiness1797]

YOOOOOO!

[@leanysealvarado7499]

They SUCK!!!!💯

[@JusDion]

I ain't got no preference but youll find me with a chocolate honey 🍯 8 days out of the week. Fuck fresh n fit.

[@anjisbiggestfans7085]

Happy to host your delegation. The delegation of extremely pasty Norwegian-Americans also finds them deplorable. Perhaps we should make a joint statement affirming our commitment to this idea.

[@dadybad08]

Can’t wait to see you with F.D.!!!!

[@anjisbiggestfans7085]

His homies just being all quiet… They know he got bad takes but he also signs the checks xD

[@tatiana4050]

No they being quiet so it can be edited out of context and make him look like a champ

[@the_nikster1]

I don't understand how anyone in 2022 still believes that all women have to be emotionally attached to have sex.

[@nickcolella177]

I had a coworker tell me he bought a course, and I was thinking it was some educational college course or something until I realized he was talking about Fresh and Fit... I had to hold in my laughter. The conversation then proceeded into some really misogynistic talking points...guy was crazy

[@moonchild1432]

wait what.... they sell courses????? and men are buying it??? lol wtf

[@보모]

@@moonchild1432 they shout ramp and rave about not liking "whores" while charging 1k for stuttering at a camera

[@uncertain_zee]

@@moonchild1432 a lot of these dudes do, it's fucking terrifying that some men are so wrapped up in this way of thinking that they'll pay money for it

[@MsKharv]

Yeah, and the guy will repulse any sane woman and in turn get even deeper into this crap.

[@memetrashcan9613]

These are for sure the same people who worry about “false accusations” every time a women speaks out.

[@Noa-g1ex]

Fr these boys gives such a bad name to guys i aint even gonna blame women who chose to stay single or up their standards, there are too many literal narcissistic, highkey sociopathic scums like them out there man

[@CA-ly7my]

immediately believing an accuser is a problem tho. I believe evidence, that's just common sense.

[@memetrashcan9613]

@@CA-ly7my it isnt as big of an issue as yknow women being abused. women need to stop being ignored.

[@Delicious_Oreoz]

All accusations should be taken seriously and looked into however, we must also make sure that we dont jump the gun and assume innocent or guilty before the key evidence is released.

[@memetrashcan9613]

@@Delicious_Oreoz stop overshadowing and downplaying the struggles of women its not that complicated

[@arthurjameson2178]

It lowkey pisses me off that there are people who cheat and I can't even get a relationship in the first place

[@nevar5232]

On god😭

[@marianalikethetrench]

I personally would rather be single than with a cheater 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@D_McGeezacks]

You're the kind of person who will hopefully appreciate what you got when you got it. Itll happen and youll be a better person than any cheater.

[@arthurjameson2178]

@Task Force Bloomer I mean I'm white and not in a relationship, and I know plenty of people who aren't and are in a relationship. Also girls mostly only care if a guy is taller than them, and most girls are like 5'6" or 5'7" so they don't really care about being 6ft. Although girls definitely do care more about height than whether you're white or not. In fact my friend's boyfriend is Hispanic and shorter than her, and she's white. So white passing and 6ft clearly isn't important to her, and I don't feel like she's abnormal. Maybe if you live a really tall, racist town then what you said is true, but most places nah you're wrong.

[@arthurjameson2178]

@Task Force Bloomer define a really nice face. This shit is so subjective. Different people like different things. I guarantee there's at least one woman out there who would be attracted to you as long as they didn't know your personality. There's probably nothing less attractive than an incel mindset.

[@cborkowski]

These fresh and fit dudes are emotionally stunted men stuck at 13 years old, but with a car and some toys to make them feel better. It's amazing they made it this far in life.

[@bruceluiz]

Imagine having a podcast that is Male Incels and Female Incels having a blast being rude and prejudicial to each other. Perhaps it could be some sort of therapy.

[@demodiums7216]

female incels basically dont exist

[@iheartlreoy8134]

@@demodiums7216 yeah they do they’re stitching to west elm Caleb rn

[@namkia205]

@@demodiums7216 Hehe, I know one. She didn't even had a hookup and she's frustrated and wants all guys to...well pass away. She always got rejected even by guys that looked similar to her. And she's 23 and in my class and hasn't graduated yet so she's in a class with 16 year olds lol. And she isn't fat or something she just has a very special face and a negative attitude.

[@hobosorcerer]

Communication is key in any relationship, and while I personally don't see anything wrong with sex outside of a relationship that needs to be established as okay or not early.

[@Antigonex]

but with him he doesnt want an open relationship. its about power and control. he enjoys the sneaking around like the fucking child he is

[@rileywebb4178]

Yeah my SO is open to me being poly while they aren’t, especially since we are now long distance. Never done it though, seems like a huge hassle and especially if I was trying to do it without their awareness.

[@silotx]

@@Antigonex Of course they see themselves as Ultra Chads dating a lot of women while their women stay submissive and faithful and it's about being better than other men that's what it always was for those toxic men. The same goes for billionaires, politicians etc it's all a dick length game for them.

[@brendan1871]

@@Antigonex Slavoj Zizek often invokes a thought experiment of this psychoanalytical phenomenon to point out the potential distinction between what people truly want and what they apparently think they want in the moment, and this he analogizes to modern 'leftisms', particularly anarchisms, which often seem disorganized and not even exactly clear as to what the members of these movements truly want for themselves. The point in this case though is just the thought experiment itself exploring that which is superficially apparent (merely being infatuated with a mister/ess and wanting to bang, at the tragic expense of fidelity to the S.O. who trusts and to whom one is in a relationship with) and that which actually underlies the behavior/psyche (the infatuation and sex are still all well and good, but rather than being an unfortunate expense/sacrifice, the secret infidelity itself is crucial to the exciting rush of the cheating at all). So, once their faithful S.O. finds out and officially separates from the cheater, though it may still not _necessarily_ be about maliciously abusing power and control over another more than just being an inconsiderate fool who deserves whatever's coming, the rush stops manifesting for the cheater and the mister/ess now that both are single and there is no infidelity to speak of. Wow, this comment went on longer than I expected lol.

[@headmaster6261]

@@Antigonex dude he says all the time to disclose and let your partner know from the jump. Maybe you’re doing the same thing to him which you proclaim he’s doing to women. Walking In Bliss.

[@srda97]

Damn... Hasan being the red pill that a lot of us need. Thank you man. You've been calling me out on a lot of bullshit lately. You're straight up making me a better person. Appreciate it!

[@AteaAlcove]

To me? Cheating is just a reflection of our discipline, dedication, and personal morals. It shows how emotionally mature/intelligent we are. I also think it shows just how much we understand loyalty, respect, partnership, and/or teamwork. This was a cool episode. Thanks 🙏

[@arimay9555]

And also just keeping your word. Why lie to the one person who cares the most about you and wakes up to you every morning

[@LordcrazyMedia]

The whole alpha/redpill culture is so pathetic and I think the part I hate about it the most is the black and white mentality and this stupid “cool guy” high school mentality.improving one’s self is great but doing it with this egotistical crap is just stupid and sexist

[@sinki19841984]

Improving oneself requires intelligence and empathy. Two things these kind of idiots don't have. They literally preach selfishness and individualism.

[@IsomerSoma]

@@sinki19841984 What's wrong with individualism?

[@TTLOSF]

Back in 2020 I found their channel and watched it for a few weeks. I was coming off a bad break up and it felt good to hear what they had to say. Fortunately it wasn't too long before I realized these dudes are dorks and I wasn't fixing myself at all by listening to them.

[@raidermaxx2324]

whats up with your name tho.. seems like you still aint over it

[@sad-womeninthehouse4249]

Ur name JSKJSJDKKSJSJSJ

[@TTLOSF]

@@raidermaxx2324 don't blow my cover

[@sabsain2399]

It will get better

[@daisy3869]

@@TTLOSF damn, Hasan didn't lie about the divorcee-to-radical incel-pipeline

[@yoyohayli]

27:35 Okay, if a man cheats on me, then sees me literally suicidal over the betrayal of trust, the begging to know why he would do that to me, the constant insecurity, depression, lack of trust and then he CONTINUES TO CHEAT...he doesn't love me. That is NOT love. If you love someone and your behavior is literally causing them to cry themselves to sleep at night, you don't continue that behavior and continue to claim you love them. I know from firsthand experience. He WILL cheat on you again. And he will get better at hiding it.

[@1newwoman07]

As a woman, this guy gives me hope in men 💕

[@talkingtochapri]

Same 💀

[@lauren128]

Hasan buys prostitutes

[@agonzalez8924]

i used to think like that guy, and say silly shit like men dont have an emotional attachment to sex the way women do... then one day i tried out the open relationship concept, and was seeing this girl from work that was cute but i didnt want a relationship with. things were cool til she found some other guy that she eventually got into a relationship with, and by then i got all butthurt and felt like i got dumped, even though we were never in an official relationship. it was a painful experience, i went through all the regular emotions you feel when you break up with someone. so yeah, men are no different than women when it comes to relationships. we are capable of feeling the same emotions, and ppl who walk around thinking like that probably lack the experience or emotional intelligence to deal with these kinds of things.

[@DJaydoubleA]

it’s good that you learned, a lot of men don’t realize how much things change. What’s terrible is these guy’s assume that they’re all psychotic cheaters so you have to cheat as soon as you can cuz “real men cum lots”

[@louisa3928]

Thank you for this comment

[@skateboardingwaters7251]

I’m proud that you had the emotional intelligence to realize how that toxic mentality is wrong. I’ve realized that most men that are misogynistic are doing it because they do it for clout, other mens approval, or that they lack the emotional intelligence. Good luck to you bro🤙

[@Cless]

"How can you say such things while you have a mom", I've come to understand that they see their mom as some (like a lot or almost all people) divinity. So they feel like they can insult women and not insult their mom because they are untouchable divine. I realized that this year.

[@ac.runnnn]

Interesting theory. Sort of a Madonna-whore complex. Although I’d say they still DO feel that way about their mom. This is gonna sound insane but plz hear me out. You know the whole “your mom” thing? That joke in full started as “your mom is a whore” or some shit along those lines. That joke has no parallel for fathers, only for mothers. It’s misogyny. I’m not saying everyone who says “ur mom lol” is engaging in an act of misogyny, I’m just pointing out how disrespectful the original joke is and how it targets female parents only and not male parents. My point is that they think any woman who has sex is a whore basically. It doesn’t matter if she births a kid from it or not. Maybe I’m wrong idk

[@s-e-e-k-i-n-g]

if youre a cheater you don't deserve any relationship, not even an open one. even open relationships require trust and if you cheated you clearly don't give a shit ab trust, you don't deserve nobody

[@Kate-is5mz]

Sex is like taking a piss, that's why I base my entire life's purpose and value on my ability to get it, actively go out of my way to get it, and insist doing it on someone else's emotional and psychological expense.... for sure dude....

[@NankitaBR]

Guys, I'm going to say this here and in many other videos, and I suggest you guys spread this around as well. *DO NOT ENGAGE WITH THIS PEOPLE.* Don't Comment on their videos, don't give them dislikes, don't tweet at them or about them, don't give them *any* engagement. People like these people feed on engagement, and the reason why they are so big in social media is because they get a lot of "negative" engagement apart from "positive" engagement. This is how they grow and this is how we can start to fight back. When you see something like this you might want to show them how mad that makes you, but that only helps them. If you *must* say something, look for a video like this one you're on and comment *here* about the thing that made you mad. That way you're not only denying engagement to them but giving more engagement to people that actually deserve it. Something like this: type the comment you wanted to say when you're watching the thing that is making you angry, copy and delete it before sending, look for a video from a person you like speaking about the same subject, and comment on the video of the person you like with the comment you wanted to say and explaining why you're sending it on *this* video. Also, try not to use their name, because some algorithms recognise this as well (specially on twitter). Use other identifiers. If we all start doing that they'll see their numbers drop and our "side" will grow on the algorithm. Please help me spread this around because I'm posting messages like this in a lot of videos, youtube will be thinking I'm a spam account pretty soon lol. And tell others to spread this around as well. Lets stop feeding this vicious circle and start feeding a virtuous circle.

[@blackhare1346]

This is very important

[@20yrs_oldBlackGuy]

*Screen shot

[@20yrs_oldBlackGuy]

Should I subscribe to your channel?

[@NankitaBR]

@@20yrs_oldBlackGuy Do you know that not everyone that has a youtube wants to be famous and have followers? Soome people only want to post videos of things they did with their friends just so their friends that were there with you can see them too whenever they want to, even years later. Are you envious that some people have real friends in real life that they want to share a moment they had together? Do you want me to help you make real life friends? Because I can tell you that's not the way you do it, bro. Get a life.

[@Ravamys]

POSITIVE REINFORCEMENT!

[@krisreid3399]

That woman was SO well spoken and straight up caught him off guard 👌🏻

[@RR-et6zp]

not really, men can love one woman and bang other girls biologically, we are very, vey different

[@Aspensauce64]

“IM VERY SECURE IN MY CONFIDENCE” he yells angrily at no one

[@theonionqueen3519]

One of my best friends is a guy who is waiting to find the right girl to have sex with. Not waiting for marriage or anything, he just wants his first time to mean something. He’s extremely attractive, an absolute gentleman (in the real way, not in a “nice guy” way) and he’s had plenty of opportunities to have sex. Saying that all men view sex as taking a piss is the mother of all bad takes.

[@tabycat273]

There are some men who want sex without emotional connection, there are ALSO women who want the same thing. Saying one sex is different than the other isn't true. Just like the flip-side where there are also men / women who feel emotional connection. We should be seen as "people" with varying needs and desires rather than generalizing it.

[@prussianbluephantom3968]

The fact you trust someone with your body, health and life just to get it violated is insane. When you get sick, you start looking at these dudes as serial killers. They literally laugh about it. You lose all emotion and it's strictly about survival from then on out. Not one of these psychopaths gives a damn about women's health,saftey, or life. Now imagine being told you CHOSE bad partners. People are literally insane and enabled.

[@RaftelX]

It's not ok for anyone to cheat, if you have an open relationship then it's not cheating but cheating is wrong from either side

[@rymaaitsaidi7843]

I discovered Fresh and fit last year and I looked for reactions that would share my disgust but there were none at the time, finally other channels are reacting to this crap, this was so satisfying to watch.

[@لبنى_الفقيه]

Same for me

[@لبنى_الفقيه]

Same for me

[@AJBeamish]

When my wife & I were going through hard times back in early 2000. She's the love of my life. Met her in my teens. When I felt the urge to kiss, not just talk & casually flirt, but kiss another women. I didn't kiss that women. I went home. Called people. Made plans to be able to survive in a mandatory 2 income household economy. Went home & told wife, "I love you but I'm not going to do what my father did, we need to separate because I don't want to hurt you." We separated. We sowed our oats. We're back together. Total amount of time together... 36 years. My mother beat me because my father cheated; I'm American non-business owning working class roots. It's never okay for men or women to cheat. Especially if you have children. Those children will always blame themselves.

[@payasoinfeliz]

It was never your fault. Your mom--no offense--sounds kinda dumb to beat you for your father's actions. Very small minded person does this.

[@IsomerSoma]

Beating your own child is definitely worse than cheating tho.

[@Xerion1]

This is that misogynist, pick up artist, "I got hurt by a woman and I'm insecure" energy from these dudes. Hasan is spittin here. 😎

[@Ashton__]

The last thing you said about him - him being a sad man with a sad life - was actually really comforting. Thank you for that lol

[@saladnander3690]

"maybe monogamy is not for you" is something I think more people need to hear. I've been in an open relationship for the past 3 years after only ever being in monogamous relationships before and I'm so glad that we did it this way. We always update each other and are 100% honest because there's nothing to hide, and it makes me trust him more because I know who else is in his sex life and he always comes back to me. And I didn't want to be tied down again so it's really the perfect compromise. I know it's not for everyone, but neither is monogamy and if you want to fuck other people that should be something you communicate with your partner, and it should ALWAYS be allowed to go both ways. The only reason this would be "triggering" is bc they act like women don't deserve the same liberties they do. Women can absolutely have no strings attached sex and come back to their partner as well, they're so stupid it's sad.