Hasbro Admits MTG Is Failing As Revenue Plummets

[@TheMagicHistorian]

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[@tcgmetaslayer4202]

Down with mtg! Thunder junk is doing worse than karlov manor! Youre gonna have to cover other tcgs once magic disappears

[@heroicnerd2463]

Yeah, I've been watching several other youtubers who have been calculating sales data and thunder junk is falling way behind karlov manor. Also, my lgs is trying to dump thunder junk lol. Karlov manor has been way better for modern, CEDH, standard, and pauper -- such a great underappreciated set

[@danielleeanes8760]

Can’t say I feel sorry for them. I’m an avid player but they release too many products, upped the prices, and magic is just too much of an unnecessary purchase for me going forward due to the costs of literally everything else in the world.

[@jason7richards]

Seriously, and I hate buying collector boosters when they look like absolute crap. They come out as grainy feeling, pringled, garbage.

[@yurisei6732]

MTG I feel is also an unnecessary purchase going forward because I already have plenty of good cards. I have a few serviceable commander decks, which is the only format really worth playing these days, and WOTC rarely prints new commanders that are interesting enough to be worth building an entire new deck.

[@blonkzero361]

I quit magic because of all the product releases. I played 17 years. Now I can’t stand it. New sets every month, collectors pack, aftermath bullshit. I miss the 4 sets a year.

[@Thumbbreaker4]

Wizards earnings are up this quarter btw

[@georgeplymale8644]

Commander masters pissed me off

[@alexkulis7295]

Almost like they were warned this would happen or something.

[@Wft-bu5zc]

Almost like Magic 30 was a terrible idea. All these companies that are undergoing "enshittification" will soon learn that short term surge profits are not sustainable.

[@roadrash2005]

@@Wft-bu5zcyeah it’s like that hypothetical button were you make a million dollars but loose a year of your life when you push it

[@spydermag5644]

Could not happen to a more deserving company

[@Enja_Near]

James Workshop.

[@RaceBandit]

EA, Ubisoft, Activision-Blizzard...

[@billable1861]

Black rock, vanguard they can all go

[@RaceBandit]

@@billable1861 | good thinking.

[@Xmr2024]

Love it!😂

[@lostalone9320]

Imagine my shock that treating existing players with contempt and chasing "latest thing" fans didn't work out for them. The best thing they could have done is literally nothing. Just stuck to making normal MtG cards and sets, and tried not to release ban worthy cards.

[@Syne111]

Yep. I've literally mapped out the plan for them many times that would have seen them grow modestly from 2019, but still add to the franchise. Add modest Secret lair and UB products. 6 sets a year, limited print runs. Serialized cards only in UB products like LoTR. Now Cynthia and Cocks are pulling out their golden parachutes because they bled everything dry.

[@Firevine]

Helen Keller could have seen this coming.

[@incardianify]

Mic drop

[@davidhowell1415]

That made me think of the Helen Keller and Ann frank spot in clerks 2

[@Carriantor]

Didn’t Cynthia telegraph the revenue decline by leaving last week so the she could divest her shares as a public holder?

[@jaysuede2627]

When a whale grows very old and very heavy, it begins to struggle to support itself. As with any other animal, every activity becomes more and more difficult to achieve, until eventually the body can't do it anymore - the whale then tragically perishes, pulled under by its untenable mass. But, the death of one yields life for countless others as they come to the whale's ruin, and everything that went into the former is born anew into those given the opportunity to scavenge. And so it may be as Hasbro collaspses beneath its weight. Maybe quick thinking newcomers can scavenge the IPs we love as Hasbro and its satellites die.

[@d.b.s.6381]

Nice dude.👏

[@Mirthful_Midori]

Magic getting bought by another company is the only thing that can save it now. I don't know who would best or even for sure who I'd want to buy it, but WotC and Hasbro have repeatedly proven they should not have it.

[@jamesoakley9333]

​@@Mirthful_Midorirudy?

[@jeffsenecal4168]

That was like it was being read from a Animal Planet special

[@Livvvid]

​@jamesoakley9333 they could sell magic for Billions. Rudy wouldn't touch the surface on how much they'd want lol.

[@Hellseeker1]

Weird, the same time they started raising prices I stopped buying boxes. Flat out not paying over $100 for a set box. I would continue buying if they lowered the price. Otherwise F em.

[@justintopolniski8655]

Same. Love magic, but they priced me out. Thankfully I already own thousands of cards and just play casual any way, so I can still have fun with my existing collection

[@shawnpanzegraf5642]

Oh, I still buy cards. Just one at a time. 😊

[@shawnpanzegraf5642]

@@justintopolniski8655 Might I recommend looking into one of the serious proxy-makers? I won’t name names, because I don’t want you to think I’m plugging for someone, but your web-browser will return several “Beat the eye, beat the fingertips, don’t try to beat the flashlight or the loupe” type proxies that are 5-10% of market for a “real” single. Many also do theme-bundles that run even cheaper. If you’re done buying from WotC due to their outrageous prices, I just thought I’d point out an easy way to snag something for your cube or kitchen table MtG games.

[@greenfoxx1820]

@@shawnpanzegraf5642 Yeah singles that interest me for commander. Maybe some MTG Arena Codes via trades with people. That's it.

[@JesGolbez]

Quite a few high-profile streamers have quit, or are very frustrated, with the current draft environments. Why print commons and uncommons when your deck is just full of rares and mythics? The bonus sheets make OTJ particularly awful to draft.

[@dudemcfurgusson7179]

My braids commander deck has 15 basic islands and 8 commons/uncommons. That's 77 rares/mythics. And the commons/uncommons are 6+ years old at minimum. It's absurd to me that my deck can be 77% Foil stamped because the commons and uncommons they've been printing are just unplayable compared to the rares/mythics.

[@casinoboy8871]

Who?

[@ChonoRock1198]

​@@dudemcfurgusson7179 you literally choose your own decks cards what's the complaints?

[@dudemcfurgusson7179]

@ChonoRock1198 the complaint is that commons and uncommons aren't generally worth running. The rarity creep is a real thing, to the point where there's not really a point in having commons or uncommons at all when they're just wasted cardboard. Yes. I chose to put 77 rares in my deck. Show me the uncommon group hug cards that could replace Show and Tell. Show me the uncommon counterspell that competes with mana drain. Show me the draw engine that competes with Rhystic Study. Show me the clone effects at common or uncommon rarity period. Show me the common Cyclonic Rift equivalent. Show me the common Boseiju, Who Shelters All. Or Riptide Laboratory. Or Nykthos. Or Cavern of Souls. Or Academy Ruins. I chose to put in cards that can deal with the goodstuff.dec nonsense that I find in every single pod I play in these days. Commons and uncommons rarely make the cut, because modern commons and uncommons either just don't do much or have CMC that's too high for their impact.

[@jamieknox1806]

Speak for yourself I'm having a great time drafting OTJ.

[@BapuanFun]

Hasbro - "I'm going to make everything premium! So everyone gets premium! And when everything is premium... nothing will be."

[@Yurikan]

Games aren't for having fun in the US, they are meant to make money. That's literally the fate of everything from our childhood. Sustainability doesn't even register in these dumb people because they just want a big nest egg to sit on when they die in a bed in hospice care that will probably get reclaimed by the state since they got no kids.

[@DamienLavizzo]

Hasbro has learned all of the wrong lessons from trying to "break into" Japan - games like Weiss Schwartz benefit from crossovers because Japanese players have been basically raised on crossover events and materials in all of their media / games. It worked a bit for Hasbro in Duel Masters, but Magic players care a lot more about their lore and flavor, and with every Universes Beyond set, the hardcore players drift a little further away and start taking the blinders off and seeing what else is out there. Sometimes less is more.

[@naruyashan]

The fact that Fallout sold so well is honestly concerning; I get the sense they're not gonna try and fix the actual standard sets and just shift more towards UB stuff.

[@billable1861]

Make more modern cards more commander cards to pay to play the game to powercreep both formats into oblivion.

[@forcemarine]

I think they're banking HARD on the incoming Marvel set to be a hit.

[@naruyashan]

@@billable1861 Don't forget ruining standard with 18 trillion new legends per set.

[@naruyashan]

@@forcemarine Shame I won't be buying it.

[@ignition9076]

UB costs more because of the licensing. Their own IP is cheaper because they don't have to pay licensing/royalties.

[@bricelory9534]

They pump out so many cards that they all blur together: oh, another Rakdos card that does something with sacrifice and/or exiling the top card of your deck, oh another Green card that puts land into play, another token generating over-stated weenie in white, another RU theme of playing multiple spells per turn. And every set has the same boring slots to fill with just rotating the set's new keyword, which is nowadays a variation on an old keyword and an "exciting" return of an old one. Every set supports multicolor so well that they have to design uncommons for all 10 color pairs and 3/4 color legendaries. Each set is thematic whiplash while being mechanically uninspiring and by the book. Commander is so overly supported it has lost the charm of being a way to play all sorts of obscure, quirky cards. Game-defining cards like The One Ring are not even part of the game's own IP - they seem to care for it so little. (To be fair, I never really cared much for their overarching IP but I really enjoyed the old block-long exploration of a plane.) It seems apparent to me that the game is being milked for all it can with no concern for longevity nor sustainability - all spearheaded by a CEO/board beholden more to quarterly reports than to the people who like their game and buy their products. The game is an unfortunate middleman between them and STONKS GO BRR!

[@TCBabcock]

I agree. Too many cards that do the same thing. I think magic is dying fast.

[@Aaron-l3l6g]

​@@TCBabcockMagic died in 2011 when they printed the first Commander precons.

[@PlatinumAbra]

Well said, I really miss the three sets a plane, it seemed perfect. I also highly agree that bringing out legendary creatures built for commander make commander waaaaaay less fun!

[@sevenproxies4255]

I didn't care too much of the overarching IP either, but some sets had very cool and interesting plane's to them. Like Mirrodin for example. A plane entirely of metal with mercury lakes and oceans. Ravnica was pretty wacky too, and I really liked the wintery theme and artwork in Ice Age. But now they're craming in Warhammer 40.000, Lord of the Rings and Anime catgirls into the sets? No thanks.

[@tarkus1113]

With the three year standard too. They have a massive overstock of Draft/Set boosters from Midnight Hunt-New Copenna. It’s why come 2026 will be returning to two year standard.

[@Nephalem2002]

They should return to One Year Standard:

[@cherry9787]

​@@Nephalem2002 They should make the packs cheaper then

[@tarkus1113]

@@Nephalem2002I’m not familiar with that? I take it oldest set from a year ago leaves? Damn. 0-0

[@tarkus1113]

@@cherry9787That’d mean we get more cards lol……gee if only -3-

[@Nephalem2002]

@@tarkus1113 oldest 4 sets that were legal in the last year would be better.

[@Nephalem2002]

Then maybe it’s time to CHANGE THE FUCKING RELEASE SCHEDULE. Cancel everything after MH3 and rework the schedule to work better for LGS and Players. Make products more format friendly for anything BESIDES commander.

[@Griswold7Slicer]

The push for commander is driven by consumers though. All the social media metrics get way more engagement when commander is involved. It’d be fiscally irresponsible to sideline your golden goose.

[@Aaron-l3l6g]

​@@Griswold7Sliceryet they have lost a quarter of their earnings while SPECIFICALLY tailoring ALL of the product to commander. Yeah make that make sense, I'll wait.

[@bedwablackburn]

Welp.... We couldn't see this one coming. (Sips)

[@bedwablackburn]

Yeah... Disney took Star Wars into the back alley and shanked it like they were in prison.

[@OGDanteZero]

Oh no! Anyway…

[@graefx]

I mean I'm doing exactly what MaRo said. Just don't engage with every product. And I'm not. In fact I haven't opened a box since Kaldheim. Maybe if they didn't print so many fucking SKUs and sets I'd still buy stuff.

[@billable1861]

Come to think of it I haven’t bought one since Kaldheim either

[@NateBullock-ow6on]

Just 2 vorinclex that's it

[@graefx]

I really liked Kaldheim. Snow is cool, the viking vibes were great, and the color identities seemed promising. It was a very first set of a block vibe. Nothing particularly earth shaking. But it feels like the last set where the theme and flavor was really thought out and explored. It just felt like a first pass and dipping your toe in. It desperately needed a follow up set to flesh things out.

[@bricelory9534]

​@@graefx the dismissal of the Block format was such a big mistake in my book. It was enjoyable to have a year in a single place/theme and to see the ideas develop across that time instead of being fire-hosed at us like it feels over the last few years.

[@enricomassignani]

I try to at least go to the prerelease of each set bcs I like experimenting new cards. But it's getting harder and harder to cut cards from my decks to make room for new stuff

[@alexandercastleberry480]

As a Teysa fan, I’m super glad that hated set is remembered as “Markov Manor”. Take that, Sorin.

[@danielbretado7660]

They cant stop our girl. No grave can keep her down.

[@billable1861]

Markdown Manor

[@Zaelkrie]

Play Boosters aren't worth it, to pay R150 a booster to pull a R10 rare just feels terrible. I've seen stores open way less sealed product cause it's just not worth it and they loose so much money selling singles.

[@t.yop9]

How are Play boosters worse than Draft or Set boosters though? Average rare count is basically same as Set boosters. If Play boosters aren't worth it, then neither are draft or set boosters. Collector boosters still exist, but they're worse value than Play boosters.

[@sebastiangembe4183]

might very well be a kind of strategie from WOTC to dry out the second market. I am sure they dont like the fact that we dont build all decks from Boosters. At this point there is little I wouldnt belive they try to fool and milking us.

[@Planeswalker-Pt]

Maybe this will convince them to realize that lower prices would actually convince more people to buy the product it’s a hard buy as it is to spend the 250 bucks on a collector box. Every set that isn’t a Universes Beyond set should be the same price and pack layout (I’m talking the dumb 4 pack collector box of the master sets)

[@EvergreenComics]

Best thing i did for my store was drop WOTC products from stock.

[@sevenproxies4255]

Based

[@philvess6376]

Pioneer is for people that miss the old Modern, the pre "Modern Horizon/Universe Beyond" era.

[@billable1861]

But they will just keep making more and more formats

[@KuroKitten]

@@billable1861 This is one of the reasons I'm a fan of Premodern as a format. It may not be perfect, but regardless of what the format is doing, by its very nature WotC (and by extension, Hasbro) can't affect it. They can't print new cards into it, they don't control the ban list, it doesn't (and can't) rotate, and the only way they can directly monetize it is to reprint old expensive/reserved list cards - which would actually be a huge boon for us. They quite literally *can't* fuck it up, and as time goes on that becomes a more and more valuable trait...

[@NightOfCrystals]

@@KuroKittenhere for this comment. Premodern is awesome.

[@mitchsirois606]

@@KuroKitten Well, not that I think this would ever happen in a signaficant way, there is still a method in which they could mess the format up. If they do reprint cards and those cards were to receive an errata. If the format were to adopt those erratas it could make or break entire architypes, or if the erratas are ignored it'd be more difficult for new players to enter the format when reading the card doesn't explain the card accurately.

[@NateBullock-ow6on]

​@@KuroKittenthat's the format with the old rock deck 💪

[@Darth_Sithis]

Wonder how big of a wave, Hasbro’s rotting corpse will make when they crash and burn.

[@jcbeck84]

My only hope is they're forced to sell of WotC when they enter bankruptcy.

[@nichan008]

@@jcbeck84 That's what I was going to say, the only interesting question is who will buy MtG?

[@jcbeck84]

@@nichan008 I say we band together. Sell shares to form our own corporation. Eliminate the conflict between owners and players by just making them the same people.

[@nichan008]

@@jcbeck84 I'd send us back to the days when the best card in your deck is a 6 mana 4/4 with some conditional effect text 😎

[@HitthaChoint420]

​@@nichan008 MANA BURN

[@J_Dubb1]

Markov manor did have serialized cards. ROFL. They were just so hard to pull that they (obviously) were barely noticeable.

[@AndrewJamesRiemer]

Thunder Junction numbers went in because of accrual accounting. When they sold it to distributors, the money hit the books, even if they don't receive their funds for 90 days.

[@shrimpboatgames8002]

I'm definitely a fan of MTG, but if they print Peppa Pig cards, I don't think I'll be able to buy another product ever again.

[@Izlr88]

Time to liquidate my collection. I'll be keeping my oldest cards for sentimental reason. Everything else bought during the last decade is going bye bye.

[@honeybeeees6666]

Ok boomer

[@Izlr88]

@@honeybeeees6666 shut up, stupid troll

[@jessewallace3805]

I've already been pricing and looking for buyers for my collection.

[@ChonoRock1198]

I'll gladly scavenge what y'all have

[@bigpopa8751]

Stop capping bro 😅

[@jadenledkins9428]

They did it to themselves. Good bye Magic, Good bye Wotc. Magic 30 and the Pinkerton situation really was the nail in the coffin to start all this. Corporations deserve to fail when they dont support the community they siphon resources from.

[@RisottoNero-z1w]

Wizards has the brilliant idea of making reprint sets without the needed reprints we want from that set, lol

[@TheTacticalBat]

How are they supposed to sell secret lairs if they include all the cards you want in a reprint set?

[@mix1313]

We at Hasbro are aggressively pursuing a find out stance, for the next few quarters. We have pivoted away from a customer oriented business plan. Maximizing shareholders imput. This will effectively phaze out the future need for customer feedback. This should streamline the find out plan greatly.

[@TCBabcock]

I keep wondering to myself: is it time to quit magic? I have thousands of dollars of cards and I only draft. I used to enjoy legacy but there has been next to no prize support and I don't like people, especially magic players so maybe its time again.

[@sethb3090]

Oh look, the stone is out of blood

[@billable1861]

Turnip time

[@PlatinumAbra]

Time to fetch the turnips!

[@Turn140]

100% doing infinity stones and gauntlets serialized like the one ring.

[@robertadams305]

Marvel will sell. Not sure why Mike's nervous. UB is the future of Magic.

[@shawnpanzegraf5642]

@@robertadams305Dunno about that. A lot of long time players seem turned off by UB stuff. Not sure the newcomers have the numbers or pocket depth to make it up if the regulars back off UB. I mean if they go crazy with super pushed cards, sure. Otherwise?

[@pascalsimioli6777]

UB isn't for old time players, it's to enfranchise new ones. They'll make powerful /quirky new cards for old players while new players will buy in just because it's marvel, the most bland pop ip ever nowadays.

[@aaronwindham6065]

Thank you for the up-to-date videos and consistent quality content.

[@anthonywolf943]

We already have My Little Pony and you don't think that won't print a Pepe pig set?

[@billable1861]

Wotc will show you their Pepe.

[@jhjustinlee]

Fallout was a business failure, everone who wanted those cards couldnt find them. Collector boosters werent avalible on day 1. Businesses make money by selling product. They messed up. The print quality of thunger junction is much better than even a few months ago. Ixilan had packs I thought were fakes because the ink was so low and colors inconsistent.

[@TheJabberWockyy]

Wow who could have seen this coming. People can barely afford to live rn what do you think is the first place they are going to cut costs. If your a adult rent comes before hobbies especially when magic is getting greedy af.

[@shadowofseattle1338]

On the topic of that dungeons and dragons Magic set. I found it rather frustrating because the red wizards of Thay were a blue card

[@billable1861]

The irony was not lost on me either but it didn’t bother me too bad wizards are most common in blue.

[@smack80]

Donr worry, Thunder Junction will only affect things for.... 3 years...

[@hectordejesus9194]

I've waited for this day. I cannot keep up and finally started slowing down significantly as of last year finally. I finally gave up with their pace.

[@01MEGABOB]

Hasbro hasbro’d their golden goose? I desperately wish I could say I was surprised.

[@MajorenSnor]

This is only my second vid of yours that I see, but I'm glad you're feeling and looking better! Keep on with the great content!

[@MTGUnpacked]

Wait for the Furby tie-in with Bloomburrow😜

[@ericbasnight2068]

I've never understood why they do the crossovers. I mean I get it, but having to pay for a crossover and hoping that it does well seems like a HUGE high risk high reward strategy...

[@dogdriver70]

Have you seen the stock price? Revenue is down, but profits are up. That's all that really matters.

[@fredytlatenchi9300]

Keep up the great work. I stopped playing MTG around early 2023 due to the overwhelming greed shown by the company but I do like to be up to date on the status of WOTC.

[@jamesp3126]

It’s too expensive to buy booster boxes now to draft with friends.

[@wendallhair5645]

It both saddens me and angers me saddens because I literally got into the game just 2 years ago and I enjoy it a lot and it angers me because of all of the crap I felt I walked into. From the release of so much product to the controversies with the Pinkerton and what not. These people are literally killing this company. I don’t want it to die

[@thefaceoffate]

It's all good, you've met/exceeded the metric of an average player lifecycle. Hasbro thanks you for your service, see you again in another 3-5 years!

[@PlatinumAbra]

Been in it for 30 years, and I kind of do, a lot!

[@christianbarrett3040]

They need to make full art versions of the original Lorwyn basics when we return to Lorwyn, that will be a massive source of demand for the set as those basics are already like a dollar or more each

[@erikwilliams1562]

Proxies are cheaper at this point. Maybe if they were willing to slow down a bit and drop the prices they'd actually see an overall spike in profits. After all, everyone orders the dollar menu from McDonald's.

[@andrewtomy2794]

The conspiracist in me feels like the breakneck release schedule, UBs, and MDFCs are, in some ways, meant to head off proxying. Why go to the trouble of proxying cards when it's less of a headache to just shell out $50 on a new commander precon every month? Why make go to the trouble of making a neat Spiderman or Cloud Strife proxy when they're gonna crap out a street legal version next year?

[@Woozychu]

You obviously haven’t seen the art with Electric Cellphone swords from Duskmourn if you’re still hoping it’s high fantasy 💀.

[@xaxscratchxax926]

What card?

[@Wolfen5207]

@@xaxscratchxax926 After searching it up, it looks like several pieces of art from the Duskmourn set has the characters holding devices that look like they're straight out of Ghostbusters. The one with the "Electric Cellphone Sword" is one that features Kaito and another character.

[@nikwichwright325]

I didn’t know time spiral remastered got reprinted last quarter

[@spiritualminded7351]

Probably meant Ravnica Remastered

[@Someone-lg6di]

Same

[@RaginKavu]

If they bring furbies to MTG... They better bring Beebles back too. Else we riot!

[@SamSarracino]

I really, really hope they go broke. Then, I hope they sell MTG to a company that values it. Maybe that way the game can have a rebirth. I've played since Stronghold/5th editon, and never did I feel as nauseated from the game as I feel now. I haven't touched it in more than one year. Even legacy sucks these days.

[@CrosswaIk]

WOTC is up 7%. There's no reason to sell it

[@hamsandwich6685]

Even if this dream scenario happened, i would still be out. They burned and pissed me off so badly that i will never return to the game.

[@frankvandorp2059]

Universes Beyond is the worst thing they ever did. Those fake Magic cards are creeping in everywhere, it's as if everyone now plays with their own custom-designed cards they slapped together on the internet, with concepts and art from whatever franchise they happen to like. It just isn't Magic anymore, it's like throwing advertisements at each other instead of spells.

[@Matthew-Fair]

@@frankvandorp2059 Ah yes, price gouging and 20 sets a year and 751 Secret Lairs (Clear hyperbole) since inception, yeah the issue is a card with Sauron on it 👍

[@frankvandorp2059]

@@Matthew-Fair I get that this may be a hard concept for simple people to grasp, but multiple things can be wrong with a game at the same time. Also, none of those issues you mention have much effect on how much fun you can have playing with cards you already own. Universes Beyond garbage, however, absolutely does.

[@NorthBayCryo]

I can see it now, 2025/2026 bent/warped non-foils will be a thing. They will probably cheap out on something to do with the inc or the clear covering of the card witch causes all cards to warp. Im excited for Bloomburrow, a little for Duskmourne and even less for Modern Horizons 3 but im still atleast excited for these sets, i was not excited for both Markov Manor and Thunder Junction and like i predicted, they focus way to much on a gimmicky in set ability witch i hate and the themes were just off for me. Junctions theme is worse for me than Markov but the cards are much more powerful. Somehow they have made two sets in a row where Rakdos, one of my favorite guild leaders, is weak and not interesting.

[@TheSickjits]

Huh? All of the cards I've bought in the last year/year and a half from sealed product have been warped. It's already a thing. I literally have a fat pack of unused strixhaven cards that have done nothing but sit there and are already pringled.

[@Mirthful_Midori]

I'm interested in the Squirrel deck from Bloom Burrow, but even that feels like a "wait and see" kind of thing.

[@colinderue8095]

They tried to milk a beautiful cow by blowing its head off.

[@pyredynasty]

Remember Alf? He's back in Magic card form.

[@andrewkelm3534]

I wonder if Bart will sell his soul for all 12 variations. 😂

[@J_Dubb1]

Def confusing me by interchanging time sprial remastered when I think you mean ravnica remastered...... lol

[@SketchingHands]

People in my area didn’t like when I stated that Magic is the expensive game. Those who got angry I showed them thr box prices of other tcgs & packs. It shut them up quick.

[@trevorsebastian1341]

As a fallout fan who doesn’t play commander I kinda wish fallout was a really cool standard set like lord of the rings was, then I would’ve bought a box for sure. But since it’s these commander cards I just didn’t really care. I like to make casual sealed decks

[@andrewtomy2794]

I felt the same way about the 40K stuff! I even went looking to see if folks had posted interesting 60 card builds, but the most I really found was just recommendations like "find a mechanic you like and build a 60 card, 4x deck around it."

[@trevorsebastian1341]

@@andrewtomy2794 yah I guess I could do that, similar to baldurs gate draft/sealed where duplicates are allowed. Could buy multiple commander decks for duplicates but it kind of sounds like a waste of money maybe just singles then

[@andrewtomy2794]

@@trevorsebastian1341 Singles would be my vote. Maybe MPC or home print proxies if the lynch pin cards are $10+ a piece. Fallout singles prices seem pretty cheap, and I bet you could pick up lots of workhorse cards for 35c each.

[@graefx]

Just imagine the Marvel Beyond infininty Gems are mox reskins and have serialized 1 of 1 copies. 5 colors and diamond. If they really wanna goose those numbers.

[@certanmike]

Tbt I would like that

[@spiffinthebox]

Ravnica Remastered not Time Spiral Remastered.

[@MutantPanda155]

Listening to this on the way to pick up my proxies from Staples 😊

[@esalazar425]

infinity gems could be a chance to break out moxes again.

[@cherry9787]

Infinity gems are just functional moxes lmfao

[@imrendered]

havent got any mtg in a year like wtf did they think would happen when i already have like 30k cards

[@OriginalMaRulFullStream]

This UVB push with licensing costs I feel like what Telltale Games studio tried with their episodic video games. You chase bigger IPs you get bigger licensing costs.

[@paulmarino418]

This is because Richard Garfield wrote the story up to the defeat of Bolas and past that nobody has any idea what to do

[@RisottoNero-z1w]

I have no idea how Arena could possibly get more predatory.

[@RedRuneblade_Alt]

Thank you for ending on something more lighthearted. I don't use arena, but respect the guys working on it now. At least they have a sense of humor and can have a little fun

[@regalgiant1597]

They remastered Time Spiral?! Damn I missed that.

[@certanmike]

Same I missed that unless he meant ravnica remastered

[@joshuadewaal]

The lawyers didn't okay the Q1 earnings with the early shipping. That would have been the accountants.

[@Someone-lg6di]

Draft for outlaws of thunder junction was horendoys at my locals 8 to 12 people for 2 headed and 3 people for single on saturday. Draft was canceled Saturday

[@matthewgillespie3460]

Costs $30 now to draft at my LGS… was $15 when I started playing 10 years ago. $30 for 45 pieces of cardboard that I’ll mostly never use and just 1 evening of fun is not worth it. Sad because draft used to be a good entry level tournament option, and now it costs what used to be the cost of prerelease. Luckily pauper is the future of magic, but if the entire player base figures that out then WOTC truly is screwed bc they can’t make money on that

[@christianmontoya4674]

If they increase the price of standard sets again after the increase then the play boosters, Im done drafting in paper. I play commander and draft that's it but if they keep charging more, Im making a cube.

[@andrewtomy2794]

I've been agonizing about a good purchase plan for bloomburrow, as I would like to make something like a self-containtained redwall draft set. Given the uncertainties around play booster draft quality, the best approach might be to just buy an ebay 4x common/uncommon set and plug in ~36 mythics and rares for a draft cube.

[@MusicalBoarder]

I still wish they would have a separate format for universe beyond cards where its only those cards and they only go into other formats like modern and pioneer if it is a UB reskin of an already existing card like how morgul knife is just shadowspear.

[@TheMgborn]

You're right, this earnings report does not count because it includes thunder junction, next earnings reports also doesn't count because it includes MH3 which would be a smash hit regardless of quality and the final one won't count because Bloomburrow. But they are losing money surely.

[@Theanthill216]

According to rudy, things seem ok which is strange…..also didnt they add otj to Q1 instead of Q2, and does cynthia resigning add any form of value on the books? Seems like the numbers are being fudged imo

[@alexandreoliveira3385]

have u guys noticed that the art of ETALI PRIMAL CONQUEROR, AND TRUMPETING CARNOSAUR, are the very same, including the rock formations on the ground, if u superposition both you will see clearly

[@spencermartinez9571]

Thats what happens when you put too much product out and also when you cheapen the product. IDK why they think its okay putting the same card with different art in boxes is ok. Cool I got 3 of the same card differnt art.. How stupid..

[@Livvvid]

This is honestly great news. This company rides on the coat tales of an amazing game none of them actually created. All the real creators left or got sidelined a long time ago. This brand is so powerful the company seemingly focused on anything BUT the products. Their employees didn't even like the game. This needs to happen to force hasbro to actually care about the products and the people who buy them..

[@mikespoerl2558]

Only the entire player base said this would happen, how could wotc see this coming…

[@RobertAshmead-bg2lw]

So they should have called the set mark off Manor they and they could start inventory reductions with loot

[@CrosswaIk]

Hasbro loses money, we know this. WOTC is still growing so they heavy no need to change anything.

[@jefferynicholas6527]

You said Quarter 1 for Magic consisted of Time Spiral Remastered, I wish. You meant Ravnica Remastered, it took a few times of rewinding to figure out what you meant but point made. Thanks for the video!

[@JoeNeutrino]

If only someone had been warning them that this would happen ever since Throne of Eldraine.

[@Tater2018]

If mtg would cancel the Marvel crossover, I'd be crying tears of joy and then by 5k worth of Karlov Manor as a thank you to Wizards. I'm so not ready for superhero's in my fantasy world.

[@dittmar104]

People don’t want to spend half a ps5 on one play booster. It’s medium quality cardboard it should be quick, cheap fun people buy often not once a month with each release. Make play booster packs $4 not $8 and people will draft more often. “Oh your draft if done we’re playing standard next. Don’t have a deck? No worries get a $25 challenger deck you can add your draft rares to!” Now it’s “play draft for 30ish or pay 90ish for this commander deck that you have no connection to in the pet deck format.”

[@nathanatkins8942]

I think someone needs to literally give WoTC a roadmap to fix this. I mean, that's what a new CEO should do. But, tix the problems with your player base before trying to get new players to enter... the ones who will drop more $ on products are the ones already invested.

[@lancemccauley6727]

The comic kids and the movie cooc's are gonna eat up the marvel stuff, it's going to go more viral than anything they have ever done

[@registereduser]

I dunno. Comics don’t sell at all anymore and the MCU fanbase has really shrunk….guess we’ll see.

[@djayt1215]

Spike the prices for high profile UB and Masters sets. Drop the prices for stamdard sets. People will pay more for "special" sets and the lower prices will incentive more participation in standard

[@CeJAZZ]

Donald Glover Reaction Face: "...GOOD."

[@justinball9293]

Drafters HATE play boosters. Less skill now, more bomb dependent. It’s like playing sealed light

[@jamisonbebiak1118]

I was diehard MTg for the last 5 years. Taking a much needed break. My wallet feels better and I feel better. I'll give them my money again when they decide to care about their product and what their players want. At the end of the day, you can't sell a product people don't want for very long before things tank.

[@enricomassignani]

18:19 there were serialized cards in MKM (right?)

[@RadstacheAbides]

Yes, MKM has serialized cards. They've been doing serialized every 2-3 sets, actually pacing themselves. But we cant give them a shred of credit. The sky has to be falling every week.

[@leovalenzuela8368]

Never blame the workers. Shit, or even the managers. It’s the owners who are the problem. Look for the people who sign the checks.

[@zebfischer6088]

Magic is a shadow of its former self. Its now just an over saturated, over printed, over "inclusive" hot mess..

[@aznpanda510x]

Print less useless cards save more ink and paper but nope, they rather charge us 5-8$ for useless cards nobody will use. It will cut cost and maybe they could sell a box for 100$ each.

[@solidscorpion]

The toy and game industry as a whole is down 25%

[@picty4089]

The best thing magic could do at this point, if they’re not to sell the company is to go out of business.