Hashinshin: Comparing Mage and Tank Items in League & New Vi Changes!

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@Rajiner
@Rajiner 5 жыл бұрын
Shen **is weak** Riot: Buff Sunfire Other tanks: It's real free estate
@shmax13
@shmax13 5 жыл бұрын
its also totalls not what shen needed
@Krozhin
@Krozhin 5 жыл бұрын
shen is so much more fun to play as a bruiser than tank, i want him to be able to do both
@granitbajraktari1600
@granitbajraktari1600 5 жыл бұрын
Riot: Shen is weak, lets buff him. Nvm dont buff him, nerf tiamat insteead despite the fact that he rushes it. But well buff sunfire cape because it will definitely only affect shen and no other tank in the game
@osahazel
@osahazel 5 жыл бұрын
Shen isn't weak.. just u can't be patient while playing him u int without knowing , jk
@LucaszSchmitz
@LucaszSchmitz 5 жыл бұрын
@@dranoelarios4788 lol feel bad for the player who picks Vayne and cant even kill a immobile champ like Garen lol might aswell just uninstall at that point
@M4gl4d
@M4gl4d 5 жыл бұрын
You know, I keep thinking that RIOT's balance department has 0 communication between those working on it. For example, I remember they nerfed Sona 17 times because of the locket, but then they removed the locket, yet they never buffed her back up, and now she can ONLY be a supp, competitively or in high ELO. And its not just Sona. I feel like it happens all the time: "Hey lets nerf this rune because of this item" "Lets nerf it again." -Item gets nerfed- -rune doesn't gets buffed back up- And this happens with champions, items, runes... all the fucking time.
@MinecraftKidPulse
@MinecraftKidPulse 5 жыл бұрын
Remember the time they nerfed Zilean's ult interaction with his W due to URF and decided they liked it more this way and it was "less goofy" to have Zilean spam W to get his ult back up and now he's 5x worse than he used to be. Great way to kill a champion
@wastingsun
@wastingsun 5 жыл бұрын
Wait karma is still a champion i thought they removed her
@M4gl4d
@M4gl4d 5 жыл бұрын
@@MinecraftKidPulse Indeed, Riot Retarded Games balance department is a huge mess. I suspect they have nothing but ADC players in there.
@bro_was_here_jr6912
@bro_was_here_jr6912 5 жыл бұрын
@Neverminder and remember when they nerfed adcs because supports were too strong,?
@qiyanagf9755
@qiyanagf9755 5 жыл бұрын
7:54 he had conqueror up,And Still,sion dealt more damage than him And everyone is like "TaNkS aRe DeAd"
@erebusvonmori8050
@erebusvonmori8050 5 жыл бұрын
Tanks are dead. So are bruisers. I now see more mages top than either of them.
@qiyanagf9755
@qiyanagf9755 5 жыл бұрын
@@erebusvonmori8050 true,Riot Will ignore the fact that mages can Go from mid ,to top,to adc,to jg and be the best at all of This roles
@guildedcharr7459
@guildedcharr7459 5 жыл бұрын
@@qiyanagf9755 don't forget support. a mage in support is better then 90% of actual supports.
@nathanjaremco1362
@nathanjaremco1362 5 жыл бұрын
@@guildedcharr7459 @ brand
@LucaszSchmitz
@LucaszSchmitz 5 жыл бұрын
@@guildedcharr7459 So true lol, a mage "support" is the actual carry, is normal to see the mage support doing more damage then the marksman
@sergiodelgado1989
@sergiodelgado1989 5 жыл бұрын
does hash have a NYAHA emote?
@blazilfrazil2
@blazilfrazil2 5 жыл бұрын
NYAHAshinshin
@stormcrow4202
@stormcrow4202 5 жыл бұрын
Hashinshin isn't what top lane deserves, but it's what top lane needs.
@okamugatuai8639
@okamugatuai8639 5 жыл бұрын
True Facts
@Ecliptor.
@Ecliptor. 5 жыл бұрын
hashinshin is hardly what any game needs, he is mostly right when he says "X is op", tho he's always on hyperbole mode
@cheyhey2170
@cheyhey2170 5 жыл бұрын
@@Ecliptor. which is better then no1 talking anything balance wise about a whole lane for multiple years
@jarlbalgruuf2415
@jarlbalgruuf2415 5 жыл бұрын
debatable
@cheyhey2170
@cheyhey2170 5 жыл бұрын
is it? i rather have someone overdoing it so it becomes "popular" instead of it being ignored for years until simple changes wont fix the problems, theyd have to change everything for that which will not happen.
@skipplayz4438
@skipplayz4438 5 жыл бұрын
5:45 “Who do you think would win a 1v1?” *Flashes to a scene where he ya one more death and is returning from base*
@EddieB-ready
@EddieB-ready 5 жыл бұрын
All that lacked was a text popping up saying "no points for guessing who"
@rapterminator3225
@rapterminator3225 5 жыл бұрын
Riot: let’s buff Shen Also riot: by buffing all tanks in the game
@gloomylobster111
@gloomylobster111 5 жыл бұрын
Riot: Let's nerf Irelia Also Riot: By nerfing all bruiser items
@LucaszSchmitz
@LucaszSchmitz 5 жыл бұрын
@@gloomylobster111 what? You gonna tell me Irelia didnt got a massive nerf? And whicj bruiser item was nerfed?
@spirit959ful
@spirit959ful 5 жыл бұрын
@@LucaszSchmitz well effectively only one somewhat "niche" item beeing ER. Its Spear of shojin now but more expensive (400 gold) 15 less ad. Only upside is the trade of that you get 250 hp instead of the old mana on ER. Problem is bruiser builds are already pretty damn expensive (3700 triforce, 3400 SoS, 3200 steraks, 3500 DD) so adding 400 gold on a former 3k gold item and compensating it with 250 hp doesnt cut it. What you see happening now is that bruisers adapt and go lethality more (which is imo not the purpose of those items, they are supposed to me assassin items). You see stuff like ghostblade renekton sometimes even ghostblade and duskblade on him just because you cant afford to buy the other items due to their pricing at the moment.
@demonzak8723
@demonzak8723 5 жыл бұрын
@@gloomylobster111 cmon man that 5ms nerf killed irelia so hard it should be done to all bruisers XD
@gloomylobster111
@gloomylobster111 5 жыл бұрын
@@LucaszSchmitz I only found 2 items, ER and Tiamat (Feels like stretching it). I swear I remember people complaining that Riot nerfed bruisers as a whole to nerf Irelia but after looking over the patch notes which are stupidly labeled I only found those 2 nerfs to bruiser items after new Irelia was released
@Rajiner
@Rajiner 5 жыл бұрын
Best part of Sunfire buff is that it doesn't change nothing to Shen he still has problem farming early game with his Q where minions survive with 5 hp before lvl 5~6 and making a full item cheaper was supposed to fix that somehow
@warzone822
@warzone822 5 жыл бұрын
Wait that's just you not being able to last hit. you cant seriously blame the champ for you not know how much damage you do
@archaontheeverchosen539
@archaontheeverchosen539 5 жыл бұрын
Not Dopler hours ago i beat up a shen player who had 2million mastery points he struggled to farm as an ex shen player i know that if u use ur q to trade u r gonna have trouble csing early on two of the hardest champs to farm with early are shen and anivia for me because of their base ad most champs i can easily trade and get complete waves while id struggle to do that on shen anivia
@randomness6498
@randomness6498 5 жыл бұрын
Rajiner maybe revert his Q dmg from 0dmg to 50 dmg
@Rajiner
@Rajiner 5 жыл бұрын
No seriously dude. Shen at lvl 1-5 approx. cannot kill ranged minions after they take a tower shot using his Q
@Rajiner
@Rajiner 5 жыл бұрын
1 Tower shot + Q leaves the ranged minion with 5 hp
@fullyuki
@fullyuki 5 жыл бұрын
Good job again SphereStalker on the new video our prophet
@Grappler1998
@Grappler1998 5 жыл бұрын
Looking at those Vi changes, and looking at her win/playrate, if you don't understand that the riot balance team literally has a collective IQ of 45, then you should be put down for the safety of yourself and others.
@youngtran8986
@youngtran8986 5 жыл бұрын
Or Riot should hire the guy you're talking about to join their balance team. He should be fit.
@XAn0nymousX0
@XAn0nymousX0 5 жыл бұрын
Riot balance team should be put down for the safety of the game
@closetedweeb5810
@closetedweeb5810 5 жыл бұрын
Cant believe what theyre doing to Vi. Those arent changes, theyre just killing everything she has, every ability wasnt enough they came after the AD and Attack speed too. Its like theyre telling you to build attack speed now but they nerfed that too. Holy thats so retarded, what do they even accomplish with this.
@ThMEDEXXX
@ThMEDEXXX 5 жыл бұрын
Dude i play vi and since when was she so OP that she needs this nerf, i rly wanna know cuz i dont understand... Nice way to literally kill a champ.
@mort6578
@mort6578 5 жыл бұрын
No no but Vi has no counterplay in Silver and 1shots ppl
@kemalarifbastug3781
@kemalarifbastug3781 5 жыл бұрын
%100 agree about % health dmg should not exist in a tank's kit
@RoastedPheasant
@RoastedPheasant 5 жыл бұрын
Remember when both Thornmail and Bramble Vest did NOT have Grievous Wounds on them? Good times.
@outriderdude4509
@outriderdude4509 5 жыл бұрын
They added it cause old aatrox was becoming too meta, they then remove all aatrox, never touched bramble vest, FKN GENIUSES!!!
@hoang2312
@hoang2312 5 жыл бұрын
Outrider Dude mostly from fiora, not aatrox
@patrickdhatt3129
@patrickdhatt3129 5 жыл бұрын
They added it because champions were healing just straight healing of tanks
@EddieB-ready
@EddieB-ready 5 жыл бұрын
@@patrickdhatt3129 and them they introduced champions like Sylas, who can heal for 200 through grievous wounds, aaaand then it begins again, soon thornmail will completely negate healing for some reason
@Avidire
@Avidire 5 жыл бұрын
Yup, Riven is still not nerfed but lets nerf Vi instead. I rarely even see a Vi in my games besides those who main her, meanwhile Riven is untouched and still with her bullshit intact
@dracosol4415
@dracosol4415 5 жыл бұрын
Get ready for the "but Riven is hard to play" comments
@timinfinite
@timinfinite 5 жыл бұрын
When a champion has basically no cool downs after spear of shojin, is able to build full damage and still be so tanky and has stupid amounts of mobility and a shield that is spammable and SCALES with AD hmm idk I think she's a balanced champ cuz she's hard to play lmao
@yuyuretro
@yuyuretro 5 жыл бұрын
Twitch Chat i mean tanks absolutely destroy her but that’s just any bruiser especially after the change conq
@alexmanuel9164
@alexmanuel9164 5 жыл бұрын
Timothy Gani why don’t you play her and climb with her then? If it’s so op
@borksen3753
@borksen3753 5 жыл бұрын
@@alexmanuel9164 you know there are people who dont care about their rank and just try to enjoy the game as it is? ^^ I mean I dont think Riven is that retarded but there are certain champs that sometimes make it hard to lile the game :)
@johnnytable9217
@johnnytable9217 5 жыл бұрын
but Hashinshin ....
@Vegan_Kebab_In_My_Hand
@Vegan_Kebab_In_My_Hand 5 жыл бұрын
B-b-b-b-b-but Hyashyinshyiiinnn...
@alexandrucelgamer
@alexandrucelgamer 5 жыл бұрын
NYAHAA
@wildtthunder8710
@wildtthunder8710 5 жыл бұрын
keep the good work man C:
@YuihiraAlice
@YuihiraAlice 5 жыл бұрын
Smartshinshin. (I like his ideas more so than the patch notes.)
@Tymbarkjestzajebisty
@Tymbarkjestzajebisty 5 жыл бұрын
His ideas makes sense tbh, they should hire him unironacly.
@ale6o
@ale6o 5 жыл бұрын
Wings For Marie in the background made my day... I love hash and especially his music choice
@iftijawad6267
@iftijawad6267 5 жыл бұрын
This man is speaking nothing but facts
@andrej7840
@andrej7840 5 жыл бұрын
Hashinshin Shapiro
@BRBingeDrinker
@BRBingeDrinker 5 жыл бұрын
You know, if thornmail became an active like blademail instead of a passive, it might be a better balanced item.
@linkastarta
@linkastarta 5 жыл бұрын
This is one of the reasons why i hate the difference between league and dota. There are tons of mechanics and items that would make league better, but they can't implement because they'll get called out for copying dota.
@xaarxyc
@xaarxyc 5 жыл бұрын
@@linkastarta Not usually a bad thing to take some ideas from another game. Every moba is 90% similar to each other anyway.
@Elektr0hazard
@Elektr0hazard 5 жыл бұрын
Linka Starta funny, I was about to quote Dota 2. I don't really care though - if I'm feeling like flashy plays and shit I play some League, otherwise I play Dota lol
@juggmkj
@juggmkj 5 жыл бұрын
@@linkastarta they want the game to be easily accessible for 95% of their player base, aka handicaps, that's why they don't introduce more mechanics... not because they don't want to be compared to dota.
@BRBingeDrinker
@BRBingeDrinker 5 жыл бұрын
+Linka Starta Uhh.. I'd say at least 50% (and I'm using a low number) of League's hero pool are **greatly** inspired by DotA heros who already exist. Sylas is literally discount Rubick. But yeah, it definitely isn't the first time League has had items that were basically the same thing as their DotA counterpart. +Protherus I prefer DotA gameplay almost any day over leagues. I play League because it's a simpler game. +Jugg MKJ Adding one active item is not going to break the community. I think Riot forgets that we don't need a million passives.
@anarchytype2200
@anarchytype2200 5 жыл бұрын
Sion 4/3 built a bunch of components versus 3/4 kled death dance "who do you think will win that one" -Comes back into lane as 3/5 against 5/3 sion LMAOOOOOO
@kronkrian100
@kronkrian100 5 жыл бұрын
Can we also talk about Void staff, the most broken item for mages for It's gold.
@beenismchugerod
@beenismchugerod 5 жыл бұрын
Right when I get home from work you upload godbless 🙏
@kaker424
@kaker424 5 жыл бұрын
Came for rants. Stayed for the music.
@TheSeriousCrafter
@TheSeriousCrafter 5 жыл бұрын
10:56 I don't know why but this made me really sad...maybe the way he said it or the music or w.e, but I actually felt what he said
@38crippler
@38crippler 5 жыл бұрын
Not disagreeing that mages are real strong, I would like to point out that physical damage items should have less power since auto attacks scale 100% with their damage while ability power only works on well, abilities, and often has a less than 100% scaling on it. So makes sense that at least the magical damage portions should be higher. The defensive stats though are strongly in favor of using magic damage though for sure.
@xaarxyc
@xaarxyc 5 жыл бұрын
You are mostly correct. The only thing that denies your logic is the amount of CDR available in the game. yes, they need more numbers since scaling is less than 100%, but with the fact how easy it is to get 40% CDR, they can constantly spit those numbers on enemies. In the past it was that most mages threw in their spells and had to fall back a little to wait for their cooldowns. But now every mage can spam almost like Ryze and combined with high AP numbers their damage is ridiculous high.
@josemanuelcorrea6748
@josemanuelcorrea6748 5 жыл бұрын
So what if i said: *V E I G A R*
@raidbosskenshiro3865
@raidbosskenshiro3865 5 жыл бұрын
*hust* *hust* Evelynn clicking E on you and then R
@magnuswilhelm2095
@magnuswilhelm2095 5 жыл бұрын
The problem is, bruisers need to get close and personal, while mages sit back and spam. I played both.
@38crippler
@38crippler 5 жыл бұрын
@@xaarxyc The video didn't mention CDR at all though so I didn't either. I was just saying specifically why the AD number should be lower than the AP number on average.
@NotFlappy12
@NotFlappy12 5 жыл бұрын
Armor has to be this strong for it to do anything against late game adcs. IMO getting a single armor item shouldn't be as good as it is, but stacking armor should be *stronger* than it is. Regarding mages, ap items (and runes) should give less ap, and void-staff needs less magic pen and more cost. Also as a toplaner that plays mostly juggernauts and occasionally tanks I really like bramblevest and thornmail, without them tanks could be fed as hell but be unable to deal with anyone with any healing at all. Ps. The conquerer change is obviously retarded
@andrej7840
@andrej7840 5 жыл бұрын
"Stacking armor should be stronger than it is" This, definetely agree.As a Darius main i even get melted with tabi, randuins, thornmail and deadmans 300 armor into a full ad teamcomp.
@blazilfrazil2
@blazilfrazil2 5 жыл бұрын
They literally nerfed everything about Vi except her passive. Wow lol
@gloomylobster111
@gloomylobster111 5 жыл бұрын
They nerfed her Q base damage and CD but now it doesn't deal reduced damage to minions? Decreased the attack speed W gives Decreased the AD ratios of E but increased the AP ratios? And now it can crit? They increased base damage and AD ratios for R while raising the CD for it. Now the CC lasts .75 seconds and knocks people in the way farther but doesn't deal damage to them They nerfed her clear speed and buffed her survivability to make her ultimate stronger but at the cost of lowering her follow up on said target
@Cpt.Mischkonsum
@Cpt.Mischkonsum 5 жыл бұрын
@@gloomylobster111 Nope they nerfed ad ratios on r by 30% of bonus ad, look again bud
@randommordekaisermain1214
@randommordekaisermain1214 5 жыл бұрын
The two items i hate the most Zhonya and GA
@raidbosskenshiro3865
@raidbosskenshiro3865 5 жыл бұрын
Manuel Ciancarella when i play talon i have to use my Ult to get the zhonyas from an mage. After that i need to get the fuck out, because i will probably die. Then there is that short window of 1 minute where i have my Ult back and the mage has no zhonyas. The only time i could kill him, if i do enough damage though. Same with Adc‘s and GA.
@randommordekaisermain1214
@randommordekaisermain1214 5 жыл бұрын
@@raidbosskenshiro3865 i feel you sadly i main Mordekaiser i dont have the luctury of getting out with Mordekaiser you either go deep or you dont go in at all
@raidbosskenshiro3865
@raidbosskenshiro3865 5 жыл бұрын
Manuel Ciancarella Pepehands
@sovyonok5565
@sovyonok5565 5 жыл бұрын
hmm Riven is LITERALLY the most played champion in the toplane (and probably the game) the conqueror nerfs basically dont do anything on her and literally a guy without hands could play it. Oh i know, lets nerf Vi!
@clubstep8244
@clubstep8244 5 жыл бұрын
Riven without conqueror deals absolute 0 damage to people who build armor if she isn't 16/3 with 6 items. I talked about this in another comment and dont wanna repeat myself to people who lose vs riven because most likely they just ignore every point I make, but she is balanced and has counter play.
@nhaaa1260
@nhaaa1260 5 жыл бұрын
@@clubstep8244 not sure about that...
@jamesfryer8555
@jamesfryer8555 5 жыл бұрын
@@clubstep8244 as of now she has 6% play rate and a 50% winrate. This basically tells us that she is played often and still effective not just one tricks boosting her winrate. She has not been directly nerfed in other a year and she will continue to dominate toplane with spear of shojin and conqerour.
@Nnothingg-
@Nnothingg- 5 жыл бұрын
@@clubstep8244 aatrox before the nerfs was also balanced and had counterplay i really dont know why the nerfs
@ln7592
@ln7592 5 жыл бұрын
@@Nnothingg- competitive play. It ruined lots of champs balanced in soloq.
@jackatkin1606
@jackatkin1606 5 жыл бұрын
Hashinshin is forgetting that why ad items are slightly scaled down in stats compared to AP items is because of AD being adapted into the auto attacks of many kits whereas AP builds are soley reliant on abilities
@Defi4nc3s1
@Defi4nc3s1 5 жыл бұрын
Nashor's Tooth *cough* Also they've converted all AP scaling attacks into Magical in the middle of last season or so.
@sonny259
@sonny259 5 жыл бұрын
Jack Atkin also AD abillities have a slightly higher average scaling with it often being slightly above or below 100%. where as AP scaling varies quite a bit
@Driskoll97
@Driskoll97 5 жыл бұрын
I can't hear Hash over his good taste in music
@Jablan11
@Jablan11 5 жыл бұрын
Seriously,couldnt concentrate after wings started playing
@warzone822
@warzone822 5 жыл бұрын
I feel like every one saying tanks are dead doesnt play top alot, cause tanks have a very basic kit and very basic items and minimize any chance of getting a lead for either top laner. they're realy boring to play as or against
@clubstep8244
@clubstep8244 5 жыл бұрын
Tanks take all the fun out of top lane. For example, playing as Riven vs Fiora or vice versa is one of the funniest things in the game, meanwhile facing Ornn or sion just makes toplane a farmfest where the guy wins who has a jungler dropping herald or some bs
@themadham4836
@themadham4836 5 жыл бұрын
@@clubstep8244 not when am playing ornn am looking for kills
@magnuswilhelm2095
@magnuswilhelm2095 5 жыл бұрын
Shen is quite fun to play
@Defi4nc3s1
@Defi4nc3s1 5 жыл бұрын
@@clubstep8244 You would probably say that to any monopoly class. At the moment ranged champios like Jayce & Mages are way worse than facing tanks at toplane. Especially if their jungler support em.
@EddieB-ready
@EddieB-ready 5 жыл бұрын
And that's why I play full crit poppy top lane. Really fun to play when you're not literally just doing tug of war with a tank garen and you both build tons of armor and it's just... First turret at 25 minutes, and only from minion autos. It's painful
@ngtyt
@ngtyt 5 жыл бұрын
nothing makes hashinshin more enjoyable to watch than a tool song being played in the background
@akrammeziane9979
@akrammeziane9979 5 жыл бұрын
This patch i get fed AF toplane and cant carry just because a 2/5 enemy lux hides in shadows and cc me to death in teamfights and still dealing dmg and tooooooo fuckkking tankyyy
@WeaksideGaming
@WeaksideGaming 5 жыл бұрын
love the music in the background
@toprak3479
@toprak3479 5 жыл бұрын
Hashinshin listens to Tool, Portishead and also classical music. I like this guy.
@meijelips9065
@meijelips9065 4 жыл бұрын
Riot should have more people that genuinely like the games and know what they like about it on the live design team
@allikitos
@allikitos 5 жыл бұрын
We want Hashinshin as a representative of intellectual players to debate with the riot balance team and it should be streamed live.
@noneofyourbusiness3288
@noneofyourbusiness3288 5 жыл бұрын
1:50 hmm Hash also listens to Tool. Thought for a second I had music running in the background myself. Also on the topic of tanks: I dont think that their items are necessarily the problem. A champion with sunfire tabi, can still be dealt with. The problem is a champion with sunfire tabi + a 400 hp shield on a low cd + a heal from grasp every few seconds. It just becomes really hard to grind them down, because shields and grasp help them cheat HP in lane.
@alexanderfelts1885
@alexanderfelts1885 5 жыл бұрын
Love the songs Hash plays, love both Tool and Hash, now I can listen to both together
@Tokumastu1
@Tokumastu1 5 жыл бұрын
yeah what he's saying is true. Hell I'm a support main and I primarily play mage supports since the items are cheap and baring snowballs, you can always bounce back by landing one of your cc abilities
@christiangregory7360
@christiangregory7360 5 жыл бұрын
Hashinshin listens to tool +respect
@HaxorDreamer
@HaxorDreamer 5 жыл бұрын
The Saint 45 YES
@temporaltrickster2031
@temporaltrickster2031 5 жыл бұрын
I don’t get how Hash is saying that Vi was getting full out nerfs with no compensation. They removed reduced minion damage on her q so she clears faster, buffed her shield and tied its cd to denting blows so she’ll actually have it up more, her ult had its damage nerfed but was compensated with more substantial secondary cc. The only straight up nerf was to her w, which I will agree is a weird decision but it probably revolved around tying her shield to her w
@161patox
@161patox 5 жыл бұрын
And it wasn't even a pure nerf on the w either, it gives more attack speed on later levels, probably not gonna matter much but hey it's something
@memesneverdiememesarelegen7350
@memesneverdiememesarelegen7350 5 жыл бұрын
White Cleaver? Nani?!
@VangolaGear
@VangolaGear 5 жыл бұрын
“Look at Poppy. Her Q does 90+16%hp+1.8ad rank 1.” ... except it’s done 60+8%hp+0.9ad for a very long time.
@ihavecrabs56
@ihavecrabs56 5 жыл бұрын
out of the top 10 most played champs top, only one of them is a tank (sion). out of the top 15 most banned top laners, none of them are tanks. also, the best mid laner at the moment is yasuo... an ad champ lol.
@EddieB-ready
@EddieB-ready 5 жыл бұрын
I don't know what you're on about, 9 times out of 10 top laners will be mages or tanks, with an occasional Darius, and mid Lane's filled with Malzahar and Ahri
@ihavecrabs56
@ihavecrabs56 5 жыл бұрын
@@EddieB-ready idk about now but this was one or two patches ago when i posted that comment. and i just looked up statistics on various websites. theyre not entirely accurate but they paint a decent enough picture
@luskarian4055
@luskarian4055 5 жыл бұрын
"Did you just say Mages are invulnerable?" Points to Zhonyas Literally says 'makes you invulnerable'
@Sped209
@Sped209 5 жыл бұрын
IS THAT FUCKIN TOOL IN THE BACKGROUND
@nadvic1797
@nadvic1797 5 жыл бұрын
First game, i go tryndamere vs swain. Swain fed first blood and abuses the shitty phase rush rune. He had t1 boots, i have t2 boots. Everytime i hit my slow, he just hits 3 abilities or autos, and then actually outruns me through the slow and lower tier boots. Everytime i try to dive him, it gets worse and worse, him getting hp and tankiness for free in his items (besides stopwatch). Second game: i play nasus vs swain who abuses the same runes. I 1v2 swain and diana at level 4 and get a double buff, snowballing through the game, until i can literally oneshot theur entire team with a single q. I'm not a pro player, but the way i see it is this: if you just pick broken op champs, you're gonna have fun. If you want to play whatever you want to play, you won't have fun. And all of that besides the fact that i have 300k mastery points on trynda, and like 20k on nasus ... Doesn' that like ring some alarm clocks somewhere in your brain? Doesn't really sound like good game design for me.
@j3nki541
@j3nki541 5 жыл бұрын
phase rush gives slow resistance, thats why he can outrun you, but yea I get your point
@xaarxyc
@xaarxyc 5 жыл бұрын
Nasus is stupidly overbuffed. he can 1v1 most of champions with a simple sheen as long as the opponent is not 6/0 or something.
@nadvic1797
@nadvic1797 5 жыл бұрын
@@j3nki541 75 % slow resistance additional to like 30-40 % ms boost. which means that he outruns me through my slow with worse boots. and that ability he gets from a rune also has a lower cd than my slow. that's just retarded gameplay ...
@jarlbalgruuf2415
@jarlbalgruuf2415 5 жыл бұрын
"Everytime i try to dive him" There's your problem, stop diving lol
@giovanni5954
@giovanni5954 5 жыл бұрын
why you try to dive a fed phase rush swain? it's not the way the game works ma man but i understand what you say mage itens are the same thing you give 200-300hp to all crit itens in the game
@relaxedayax437
@relaxedayax437 5 жыл бұрын
Difficult to hear hash with that excellent músic in the background
@AsteriskMango
@AsteriskMango 5 жыл бұрын
I've quit league but I still come to watch Hashinshin
@hightiergamer5558
@hightiergamer5558 3 жыл бұрын
LMAOO HASH IS SOO FUNNY AND RIGHT AT THE SAME TIME
@briancordero935
@briancordero935 5 жыл бұрын
10:37 yea so when I Dunk someone as Darius (usually averages more than 1k at level 18 but we’ll cap it at 18), I take 150 magic Damage. Good idea
@clubstep8244
@clubstep8244 5 жыл бұрын
1700 true dmg garen r lmao
@outriderdude4509
@outriderdude4509 5 жыл бұрын
150 magic damage on a garen or a darius is fkn nothing, literally less than 5% hp wtf, are you dense????
@gordez5827
@gordez5827 5 жыл бұрын
​@@outriderdude4509 do you realise that tanks damage you with sunfire, while also damage you with their spells and basic attacks AND on top of that you get damaged from thornmail BECAUSE you damage them. lets try to simulate this: 200 ad vs 200 armor(70% damage reduction) with thornmail you hit enemy 60 (200/70%) and if tank does nothing he hits you with sunfire (25 damage) + thornmail ( 25 damage)
@giovanni5954
@giovanni5954 5 жыл бұрын
that's sure so unfair man i understand you! while you one-shot 5 people of the enemy team you take 150 damage that's make darius useless!
@andrej7840
@andrej7840 5 жыл бұрын
They won't make it so true damage gets reflected.
@Mewuli
@Mewuli 5 жыл бұрын
Tanks should be like in every game, another support, fucking hard to kill but deal little to no damage
@tradtrad1000
@tradtrad1000 5 жыл бұрын
They should bring Ionic Spark back for Shen, and make the bounce damage scale off HP
@HeartYgo
@HeartYgo 5 жыл бұрын
that thornmail hash says sounds fun to be honest
@waifubetterthanyours1862
@waifubetterthanyours1862 5 жыл бұрын
Unrelated question but what does your name mean spherestalker?
@spherestalker9748
@spherestalker9748 5 жыл бұрын
idk but I like it
@leorickaldana366
@leorickaldana366 5 жыл бұрын
He stalks spheres. Simple as that.
@crekrift5061
@crekrift5061 5 жыл бұрын
He plays syndra
@DaniloHD
@DaniloHD 5 жыл бұрын
He stalks Syndra
@Pyramidus88
@Pyramidus88 5 жыл бұрын
hashinshin should be the leader of the balancing team
@mericzopaul9621
@mericzopaul9621 5 жыл бұрын
some sick Tool tunes in the background
@jaysprays
@jaysprays 5 жыл бұрын
He makes a lot of sense about tanks
@kapitansisig
@kapitansisig 5 жыл бұрын
I think Hashinshin will be the best future riot employee balancing league items😂
@j3nki541
@j3nki541 5 жыл бұрын
the would literally just be 3 more favorite champs in the balancing team to buff
@kapitansisig
@kapitansisig 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah no crap😂
@Jose_Roberto77
@Jose_Roberto77 5 жыл бұрын
Vote for Hashinshin make top lane great again
@grzegorztajchman4134
@grzegorztajchman4134 5 жыл бұрын
I can hear tool, and imma quite pleased
@dranoelarios4788
@dranoelarios4788 5 жыл бұрын
Went against a vane top with Garen and grasp... Biscuit delivery Thornmail Ninja tabi S rank btw
@raidbosskenshiro3865
@raidbosskenshiro3865 5 жыл бұрын
Dranoel Arios thats true
@jarlbalgruuf2415
@jarlbalgruuf2415 5 жыл бұрын
bad vayne :/
@ZochuPL
@ZochuPL 5 жыл бұрын
Ah its 3am i think im going to sleep *Sphere stalker, 10 minutes ago* SHIT CLICK
@161patox
@161patox 5 жыл бұрын
While i agree with some things that he said, mainly that ap champions are better than ad ones, you can't compare ad to ap items in a 1 to 1 basis, ap affects abilities while ad affects abilities and aa plus ad has crit and attack speed.
@brianavina2644
@brianavina2644 5 жыл бұрын
Tool 10,000 Days: Wings For Marie
@Defi4nc3s1
@Defi4nc3s1 5 жыл бұрын
Poppy is one of the champs using sunfire as first item aswell.
@Sai69-n1m
@Sai69-n1m 5 жыл бұрын
for the 1st time in my life hashinshin is r8 about something
@ipppppi1205
@ipppppi1205 5 жыл бұрын
Man i miss when thornmail was like only effective on rammus
@GeninGeo
@GeninGeo 5 жыл бұрын
Hash Realizes that Sion isnt played as a tank but as a Juggernaut with ad items first then.
@malonee
@malonee 5 жыл бұрын
I randomly am hyper agreeing with this video
@Divoky
@Divoky 5 жыл бұрын
4:45 lil dejavu XD
@GuikofMikumo
@GuikofMikumo 5 жыл бұрын
Riot lógic, Lissandra can use her R, immortal for 3-4 seconds, then she can use zonhyas +3-4 seconds imortal, then she uses her W and get 140 armor free with Aftershock and Riot "We need to change her passive"
@gigeanicusor4925
@gigeanicusor4925 5 жыл бұрын
When you champ will be buffed,my hearth is so happy (fcking main urgot 170k points)
@joelgeorge3513
@joelgeorge3513 5 жыл бұрын
Honestly I wish that some idiot from Rito would just have a genuine sit down with hash and therefore solve every problem in league
@magic4452
@magic4452 5 жыл бұрын
Rise up brothers and sisters! No longer will we have to deal with such things as counterplay, for tanks will finally become the only thing playable in the top lane! Whatever they bring, we will match it!
@GeninGeo
@GeninGeo 5 жыл бұрын
I agree with Hash that Bramble vest should be Grievous wounds for 1.25 seconds with no on hit. I disagree that It should be 800 gold or any of the thornmail changes. Bramble vest should build into a separate item for Grevious wounds or bramble vest itself should be that item with no mini form 70 armor 450 hp Cold steel 3000 - 3300 gold. Thornmail Reverted to before rework Unique passive Reflect 15% of basic attack damage and 8-40 +(.35% of armor) 100 armor. 300 hp Cold steel removed. 2800 - 3100 gold. Spirit visage 70 magic resist banshee's veil 45 magic resist reduced 150 gold.
@Autoswitched
@Autoswitched 5 жыл бұрын
"Thornmail will be more balanced if it gave 40 armor, 40 magic resist, but do 15% damage back from single target spells and auto attacks" Now every other class including adc can build this item now... Syndra ult? Ye boi you just one shot yourself!
@constantinebougioukos2175
@constantinebougioukos2175 5 жыл бұрын
thornmail was a mechanic back in season 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 that worked in an interesting way. it dealt 30% of the damage dealt to your champion and it gave 100 armor. you literally didnt want to hit a tank with thornmail, as he would outvalue you to death, due to their insane resistances and that their base damage was enough to outdamage you. what hashinshin is implying here with that thornmail, is that is a well more all around s1-2-3-4-5 thornmail, in a more balanced way.
@constantinebougioukos2175
@constantinebougioukos2175 5 жыл бұрын
what i said just now, says that you shouldn't be ulting as a syndra a thornmail tank, therefore it is literally ok as an item
@Autoswitched
@Autoswitched 5 жыл бұрын
it was only basic attacks lol. It never reflected abilities. I played during 3,4,5 and patch notes indicated between season 1-5 it was never changed aside from costs.
@Autoswitched
@Autoswitched 5 жыл бұрын
the only reason thornmail existed as it is is as an item to help tanks survive vs fiora, otherwise fiora simply just runs them over even harder.
@nebeskisrb7765
@nebeskisrb7765 5 жыл бұрын
The reason why AD items gives - seemingly - less for higher price is because once mage is out of CDs he can't do shit, while AD champion will still do a lot of damage with his auto-attack.
@ehsign5567
@ehsign5567 5 жыл бұрын
Not to mention Guardian angel has a cooldown twice of Hourglass...
@raidbosskenshiro3865
@raidbosskenshiro3865 5 жыл бұрын
Ehsign S not even an active ability
@emc8476
@emc8476 5 жыл бұрын
I remember playing tanks and feeding hard as fuc just to build bramble and some armor and make their bruisers useless . Always winning the game cuz I have a lot more CC and im tankier and sometimes I also deal decent dmg
@kjkh3104
@kjkh3104 5 жыл бұрын
Ability power affects only abilities with most mages, so mage items have more AP than attack damage items have AD... So because attack damage champions "use" the AD more consistently and more often than mages, ad pure stat on items is lower
@kaheichan6228
@kaheichan6228 5 жыл бұрын
When I first played the game, before even reaching level 30, I noticed that there's very little mr in the game.
@dakotakade3547
@dakotakade3547 5 жыл бұрын
I kinda agree with Hashinshin. I've been saying for a long time that defensive items like Banshee's and Zhonya's active and GA need to stop being offensive items. We have damage items in the game. Damage items should NOT also give you damage. Building more damage should be a risk. Nothing feels worse than when someone is ahead of you, and NOW they also have a GA. So, not only do they do more damage than you, they also get a revive. Same with Zhonya's. When you're behind already, they now have an amazing active, armor, and more damage than you. Defensive items should be purely defensive items. They should give shitty stats, and focus on the active portion of it. The appeal should be from the defensive active, not from the stats. With shitty stats on defensive items, you won't have tank meta again where tanks have stupid amounts of defensive stats along with amazing actives, and you won't have "glass cannon" builds with tons of damage along with amazing defensive actives. TL;DR Defensive items like Banshee's, Zhonya's, and GA should be universal niche defensive items to counter specific things, not core items in a build. Banshee's to dodge hard engage spells like Blitz hook, Zhonya's to dodge certain ultimates and things like that, GA to help against getting one shot.
@abyssalpetrichor1996
@abyssalpetrichor1996 5 жыл бұрын
I feel like Riot should just add an item that gives you 30% damage reduction but all the damage you do is reduced by 35-40%. Wouldn't a straight forward item like that help? I thought Gargoyle Stoneplate was going to be that item but only Cho'gath builds that and that breaks his R turning it into a oneshot...
@wastingsun
@wastingsun 5 жыл бұрын
"B-BUT HASHINSHIN, TANKS ARE DEAD! THEY JUST BUFFED THE ADCS SO THEYRE DEAD!"
@DJ2WYCE
@DJ2WYCE 5 жыл бұрын
I used to think that all Hashinshin did was bitch and complain about everything but after watching his streams and highlights for the last few weeks I gotta say, the man makes some really good points.
@veldsuperleague
@veldsuperleague 5 жыл бұрын
I remember when SpehereStalker was giving me hearts
@keggerous
@keggerous 5 жыл бұрын
Riot just needs to cut dmg in half for almost every champ. I think that's the problem with the game. There is often times when I will use my abilities ONCE in a fight because, even though I am a bruiser, I'm dying INSTANTLY. Just reduce dmg and make people actually have to build and get fed in order to do dmg.
@LazerBlade-yp1lf
@LazerBlade-yp1lf 5 жыл бұрын
sweet another video for me to chill. I don't need much :P
@kaisighenatmarow9540
@kaisighenatmarow9540 5 жыл бұрын
the god of top has spoken
@SgtMcMuffleBuns
@SgtMcMuffleBuns 5 жыл бұрын
Reminder that characters are now being buffed because they "want to see them in pro play"
@JudgeVenat
@JudgeVenat 5 жыл бұрын
riot should invite hash to discuss the problems with top offer him a job at riot balance team for top or at least have the chance of on q and a with the riot balance team
@Fightikus
@Fightikus 5 жыл бұрын
I suspect they are gradually nerfing Vi's damage now so they can buff her with tankiness and say "haha, Vi is a tank now, fuck you guys!"
@KDragV
@KDragV 5 жыл бұрын
I agree with hashinshin on some things like zhonya and banshee being a bit strong but those items are really strong on mages and I play some AP melee Assassins. Not everyone who builds AP is a mage and nerfing the shit out of AP items wont fix mages it will just make everyone who builds AP worse
@davidkepler5261
@davidkepler5261 5 жыл бұрын
If and probably when new conquerer comes out, i am thinking of more tanks to play with it that bruisers. Like on poppy, ty for the 10% true dmg and healing AND bonus BASE DAMAGE for EVERY ABILITY on my favorite champions: tanks.
@christophermcgarry6832
@christophermcgarry6832 5 жыл бұрын
David Kepler Poppy is not good with that rune. You must be smoking something
@davidkepler5261
@davidkepler5261 5 жыл бұрын
@@christophermcgarry6832 It would work better on poppy than most bruisers, that is the point.
@Andre-wk9ef
@Andre-wk9ef 5 жыл бұрын
"the company does not have a top laner on their design live team" hashinshin wants a job at riot so bad
@squidpope9744
@squidpope9744 5 жыл бұрын
Love how when he goes into his “tanks are busted” rant he is always against a Sion
@reudigerhund8366
@reudigerhund8366 5 жыл бұрын
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