Hashinshin: Riot fails to balance Tanks!

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[@123rubbeldiekatz123]

6:00 Singed actually stopped and looked at the stats of Thornmail =D

[@SeeMyDolphin]

That timing is actually perfect

[@l_will_be_great1326]

lmao

[@binks9118]

Hashinshin is starting to get addicting and in turn your videos are just as addicting, you'd be a great editor for the guy.

[@alyantza]

Hashinshin is like a heroin addict, it doesn't matter how dirty the needle is, he just comes back for more

[@Mowadium]

wow very deep

[@Nersius]

Chadshinshin would quit LoL if he could make them phat streaming stacks from another game.

[@jay_ian5828]

They do a great job creating cinematics and music videos but fails to do a better job at balancing the game😔

[@sterryd121]

Name me one game that is perfectly balanced, that doesnt have meta picks, is competitive and have over 30 characters in it? The answer is no game is perfect balance thats why competitive games have tier list and metas.

[@geasslelouch]

@@sterryd121 wooooooshhhh the game has been in shambles and going down hill since the juggernaut patch. Ability maxing is far more linear, champ identity is stagnant not fluid, the base rules of the game have been turned on their head, key stones were power creep ideas that have left the players in a mire, the balance team doesn't play the game, I could go on but ik you breathe with your mouth so I'll stop

[@kizehanchi4034]

@@sterryd121 it's dota 2 the game that require your micro skill and team combat than your champs picking

[@gloomylobster111]

@@kizehanchi4034 Dota 2 is just relaxing like instead of team fights every 5 to 10 minutes you can actually farm

[@user-nt4fi7dr4c]

@@kizehanchi4034 well theres like counter picks in dota while in league everyone just main a few champs and feel proud of themselves while having hardtime fighting those who counter them and do not understand why this happens......the way how league play nowdays is too solid, it totally sucks

[@vonwaq]

tommy309 when he feeds or ints: tommy 3 0 9

[@zhantae]

Doesn't matter how much armor or mag resist I buy, everyone does %health dmg and builds penetration so it doesn't mean shit; god forbid if I try to fight back.

[@kidbuu9195]

Was playing shen against a full AD team while I was super fed and had 300+ armor and was still getting melted. Won the game anyways but dude it feels so bad.

[@Jack-op8bb]

@@kidbuu9195 I feel the same way.

[@kizehanchi4034]

A brand support with 2 items with good timing can swipe whole enemy team cause of his op passive deal % health base on his ap

[@gloomylobster111]

Mages get 40% mr shred with 1 item, ADCs deal true dmg with IE, and Bruisers get Conq

[@gngirl2788]

but when enemy rengar gets just tabis, i'm critting him for 250 with IE as a marksman :P

[@kossetsu_7192]

Tommy 3 0 9 And the Riot balance team is unironically Iron IV +12 stacks Frogchamp

[@cheekyman232]

@TYT Member #404 I don't see it being op because you can just constantly invade the nasus. He doesn't have good 1v1 early and his clear is really fucking slow. Just pick something like rengar or jax to counter jg him.

[@thegamerdevil6662]

@Alvo then you clearly havent played it or against it while retaining decent clears you also gave god ganks with chilling smite w

[@veldsuperleague]

1 Actually riot balance team is full with diamond and master players! Have a research! 2 Low elo maybe but at high Nasus is dogshit (Get ot he is dog). They nerferd jg camp xp, smites too and if you dont last hit jg camps tou are pretty much screwed. And i plaued a gamw with Nasua jg on my team. Two teamfifhts woth us at 40 mins and we won becauae we all won our lanes. So good luck playing JG Nasus!

[@neklin7150]

unless you are dimond or higher (that is 2,5% of players so it is likely you are fucking not) they are better than you kiddo :| git gud

[@booonnoob7950]

The only people complaining about nasus jungle are the people in low elo. In high elo, it is not as rewarding for a nasus to farm in the jungle. The enemy team will know how to play around that. It would be more punishing for nasus’s team. Even in lane, he is still not as strong, he only gets 12 stacks from cannon minions but if the enemy denies him from stacking it, he would end up with less stacks

[@ronitnayak4408]

i cant stop watching these, been here since the beef with dom

[@veldsuperleague]

Nice profile picture :D

[@Avidire]

The beef with dom was one of the hypest thing to happen in league

[@reverzive4166]

"Riot pays so little attention to the game... wait, why am I building Ghostblade?"

[@fullyuki]

Thank you SphereStalker, very cool!

[@Emeowy]

0:35 skaarl lol

[@The_Legend_Himself]

Top 10 anime betrayals

[@primeerebus253]

Hash: "Why is there no punishment for sitting on a lane?" Actually there is. If you dont shove your lane and freeze it at your turret the enemy jungler will struggle to attack you. Thus the only thing he/she will accomplish is leaching XP from the top laner getting you ahead of 2 players. However, if you endlessly shove lane as a kled into a singed you are begging to be ganked. Singed has one of the most gank friendly kits in the game with his slow and flip, this isnt mentioning the DOT he places on you. "How does bramblevest still exist, its one of the most broken items in league of legends history." Bramblevest/Thornmail is purely designed to make champions like Kled, Yi, Jax, etc think twice before mindlessly beating on a tank. With tanks having to build FULL TANK to counteract the power spikes that jax, kled, yi, etc have, bramblevest/thornmail give them a viable option for trading with these champions. It greatly shows why you would think its broken, you do not play anything other than autoattack champions, its a direct counter to you not only for the champions you play, but for you as a player in general. "They should do an across the board nerf to every single concept that tanks have, then remove conquerer, nerf last whisper, and remove void staff" Holy... just wow this is gonna be a long one here. Doing any of this would make having a tank pointless. You would simply play... son of a bitch.... jax, kled, aatrox.... So by nerfing everything tank you would have bruisers make a heavy ass comeback to the top lane, but heres the problem with that logic... RANGED. By nerfing tanks, you would essentially say "Come back to top lane all you Kennen, Quinn, Jayce, and any ADC players that didnt get their role." The biggest direct counter to bruisers is ranged poke and hard CC. Ranged poke is easier to accomplish so players are going to en mass go that route to counter all of the new jax, kled, aatrox, and darius one tricks in top again. Although I would love to see you BEG for tanks to be buffed again if tanks were nerfed and all of these ranged champs came top again. I would pay money to see a Grasp Quinn with Demolish, Second Wind, and Unflinching VS your Jax, any build, top lane after they nerfed tanks just so I could see you complain about how "WHY DID THEY NERF TANKS AND ALLOW THESE GUYS BACK INTO TOP LANE, I WANT RANGED CHAMPS NERFED" "They aren't going to allow an entire class to just be useless" Then if you know this, why constantly shove these ludicrous statements that would make an entire class useless down our throats to try to fit your bullshit narrative to make the champions you play the only viable top laners.

[@magickmagick6296]

with that freeze "counter", you can effectively stop the effectiveness of aggression champions who relies on early game prowess with decently timed "sit-ganks". even if u are just under tower, with the correct pick combination for top and jungle, with the current damage of the game, being at 70% HP puts you at risk of getting dived and dying because top laners run ignite. the solution is a counter-gank, which can be problematic because it demands a teamplaying early game jungler. Again, lessening solo potential as a player, and effectively making junglers too controlling early in the game.

[@magickmagick6296]

Bramble vest and thornmail arent purely designed for that, because u can use it to other bruisers who still auto attack and theyd still get fucked, like renekton and nasus, who relies on healing too. and as his point stated, thats why conqueror exists, and thats a problem, because the game will revolve around the small champion pool of those who would want to use conqueror because fuck getting countered, not to mention conqueror still gives you true damage and AD on anyone you try to hit anyway, so fuck other autoattack bruisers too who doesnt get conqueror. Game's too reliant on certain aspects of the game, and thats Hashinshin's point. It ultimately makes the game less flexible, hence the damage heavy, faster paced game we have now with barely any effective tanks.

[@MgMast3r]

I'd just want tanks to actually do the things they're meant to do: TANK and CC,leading to a good control over team a team fight,their damage being mostly over time so it depends directly on how long they last in a fight. Meanwhile, Rito does the opposite and nerfs those aspects while buffing their damage, turning them into these weird lane bullies that at the end of the day ain't all that great in team fights anymore. Feels shitty for both the tank player and the one laning against him. Those Sej changes where they went on extreme ends to do exactly that are probably one of many to come... It also always baffled me that for how "creative" Riot try to be, they're only really creative when it comes to ways of doing damage. They don't take any inspirations from how other multiplayer games make tanks, mmos especially, things that could work easily. There's very few damage reflecting abilities and they are only for AAs,none for abilities, none for magic damage, very few damage debuff mechanics, no mana/energy debuffs, or things that would increase the cooldown of the enemy abilities,I could go on...there's so much to do here but none of it is explored. Prolly because anything that's not flashy enough and especially something that would REDUCE the flashiness of other champs would be considered not that fun to watch and they have been pushing the game heavily towards that aspect over the last few years,especially s8. Ah league of legends, the game to spectate, but not play xD

[@DefinitelyNotBandee]

Well said Sir!

[@loudwhispre9406]

Sorry that the other replies to this comment are so goddamn stupid. Everything you said correct to the letter. Before Thornmail rework + Bramblevest addition: Buy Randuins for the cold steel attack speed reduction, Sunfire for the damage to fight back, and Warmogs to match bruiser healing. Thornmail rework + Bramblevest addition: Bramblevest adds damage return like Bami's Cinder, reduces healing so you don't have to match a bruiser's innate HORSESHIT healing (Nasus having 12% lifesteal at level 1, ok sure, WHY THE FUCK NOT or Irelia healing on every Q, yeah makes sense.) and Bramblevest gives armor for the early game. It doesn't click for some people I guess. But thank you for saying it anyways.

[@itlogo0o]

i agree with hash about jungles just sitting on lane and still gets even with exp they should remove catch up exp and tone down bounty system and in 9.2 they're planning to lower jungle camp exp again.... imagine sej zac and rammus just waiting in that bush waiting for to last hit that cannon minion before jumping on your ass

[@user-xv9kb2vs5f]

2:10 - "I've never said conqueror shouldn't exist" *less than 10 seconds later* "Should conqueror exist? No."

[@TheBobby2legs]

Hashinshin could not be a better voice for top lane bruisers. Keep up the good work sphere 👍

[@1425363878]

I remember a time when tanks were totally the thing you needed to have for team fights but they could be taken on one on one by basically anybody because they didn't deal any damage. That was a good time.

[@lusio7182]

his nick in a few months: Riot Hashinshin (balance team manager)

[@rovingut5171]

0:21 Guess we all know that feeling huh?

[@Lovelle1]

Tank itemization hasn't been good for years, it's just Bramble Vest that's stupid and shouldn't exist. It gives tanks the ability to shutdown bruisers, which completely removes any semblance of balance this game has. Conquerer also wouldn't need to exist if bruisers had real itemization choices outside of Cleaver and Tiamat.

[@tobaccomarshall4659]

Cleaver isn't even good now

[@hyper_5pace902]

@@tobaccomarshall4659 It's not that bad on certain champs. Ranged champions like Lucian and Jayce are very good at utilising the armour removal by following up swiftly with their ranged abilities.

[@soleo2783]

@@hyper_5pace902 exactly, a bruiser item is better on ranged champs than on bruisers

[@hyper_5pace902]

@@soleo2783 Yeah true. But you could say the same for current essence reaver which was made for adcs but is currently a item used most effectively by jax who is a bruiser.

[@soleo2783]

@@hyper_5pace902 yeah i never got why people say it was made for adcs, can you enlighten me?

[@marcochavez92]

-Riot doesnt put attencion to the game Buys GhostBlade* -Why im buying GhostBlade? I dont care Love it

[@Mowadium]

S U P E R - T O P

[@ricardomagarreiro3781]

JC! a bomb!

[@sxion8707]

"I've never said conquer shouldn't exist." Literally 2 seconds later "Should conquer exist? No it shouldn't exist."

[@hemoerotic]

giga brain hashinshin moment

[@PyrusnVentus]

He's saying that in a perfect world conqueror should not have to be in the game, but because of how Riot balanced tanks it has to be in the game. If tanks weren't running around doing too much damage (Poppy, Ornn for some examples) conqueror would not have to exist so bruisers could stand a chance.

[@siryuz1172]

"it shoudn't exist BUT it NEEDs to exist" stupids

[@DefinitelyNotBandee]

@@PyrusnVentus Poppy is a bruiser. Ornn indeed does too much dmg for a tank.

[@duytran9086]

TOO FKIN MUCH to be exact. His entire combo literally almost one-shot you even if he stacks 6 tank items (which is smth he will always do). Assuming he hits all of the abilities, he would deal 79% of your max HP as magic dmg, following with a 450 base dmg from ult, E and Q together would deal between 500-600 dmg (before mitigation). And of course, 15% increased magic dmg because he will most likely purchase Abyssal Mask.

[@fiskblack1737]

This is why I love hashinshin. First couple of minutes "My jungler is so useless omg omg" | 5 minutes in "No one can ever be useless, they won't allow it". Shoutout to my boy Dom.

[@lilbabygoated]

This video reminded me that reksai is a champion that exists

[@Akario3]

And despite her great ganks falls off stupidly hard if she doesn't go conqueror(which is trash in jungle).

[@combichristevilnice6581]

I love this " Nyao nyao sinsin you just complaining"

[@urgotmain7045]

Never clicked out of porn soo fast 😂😂😂

[@silence7524]

-not the most original but me too-

[@N1NY44]

Hahahah same 😂

[@aifred8435]

clicks out of porn for fucking hashinshin its a yikes from me chief.

[@scoobty4449]

@@aifred8435 agree

[@lephrahepra6669]

Riot buffed thorn mail wound time from 1sec to 3sec

[@bluefiremarkii]

"Should it exist, no it shouldn't exist." Goes on to say it has to exist. What he doesn't know, it's getting reworked.

[@imme2763]

Can we nerf riven already?

[@royalvarez24]

What nerfs do you suggest?

[@imme2763]

Depends on what direction riot wants to take her. Right now she has both sustained damage (to shit on tanks) and burst (to instakill squishy's (which requires a lot of skill to execute perfectly, don't get me wrong)). She's strong early, mid and lategame. And has a lot of shields + healing (with death's dance). She kinda does it all.

[@michaelstatia4493]

Couple days ago "tanks are weak asf". Today "how to balance tanks"

[@Joshu223]

Balancing doesnt mean that something is OP in first place. You can also balance weak things

[@julianscheu8735]

Oh My Lord the BM is real! 6:03 god damn tommy 309 is a funny fuck!

[@masonfoster151]

"iv'e never said conqueror shouldn't exist..(3 seconds later).. should conqueror exist? no"

[@NextGame1004]

a Tank is completly useless if he doesnt have any damage pressure. Tank Meta is always good because when Tanks are Meta, Teamfights are always 5v5. No Splitpushing bullshit. The Game is actually a 5v5 Game when Tanks are in Meta. And thats why i love Tanks. If they dont deal any damage, then hell no nobody is gonna play them. Tanks make League of Legends a 5v5 Game and not a boring 4v4 game with 2 splitpusher fighting each other permanently with one feeding their ass off. I liked the time where you had toplane and jungle both played tanks and the rest was damage and 1 utility like janna or lulu. That was a good time because it was a real nice 5v5 game. Everyone grouped in the mid game and was fighting for objectives. Now its all about the bruiser. Whoever has the better splitpusher wins. Thas lame

[@Hadhoudtn]

For some reason, even if I disagree with what hashinshin says (In my opinion he says a lot of wrong informations etc) but I still enjoy watching his rants XD

[@imme2763]

Everyone needs some dose of Hashinshin in their lives

[@realityhumanity4619]

He's basically saying "Nerf everything that counters bruisers so bruisers can be overpowered"

[@solemvow6281]

They wouldnt make a class useless..... ADC 2018

[@PagingDoctorGuy]

Solem Vow see lucian and kai’sa and jhin and twitch and draven and varus and tristana for adcs that still dumpster anyone in bot lane trying to be a soyboy mage.

[@royalvarez24]

@@PagingDoctorGuy you forgot vayne on that list of yours

[@youssefb3412]

My future aborted child is obsessed with Chadshinshin. She found his address and loves to go through his trash. She even built a shrine of him in her closet. Children are truly amazing

[@blop-a-blop9419]

I like Hashinshin, but what I like even better is Singed goofing around and fooling Kled :P 6:00

[@honkai8692]

hashinshin is right, with all these stupid numbers, tank quickly become unstoppable in the mid game, but anti-tank items chunk the shit out of tanks, presision keystones like press the attack and conqueror is so broken it makes the entired classes of tank completely useless in the late game. tank dies in a split second in post 40 mins teamfight.

[@cordgonsinged7676]

honkai you mean only conqueror, because PTA does no damage to a tank by itself. An adc with PTA might have ie and last whisper items to ignore lots of armor and do true danage crits, which is not at all PTAs fault

[@Nami-x]

Complaining about Riot, while the Caitlyn is a Riot employee (Riot Meekal)

[@speeddemon9616]

I don't care if riot turns around tomorrow and made the literal best game ever, riot games with years up-on years of bs after bs, will never endorse there shit, now i get the whole corporate stuff, that not on riot, but failure and blatant disrespect to players year after year, buffing random shit nerfing already weak stuff buff strong champs cause they need a lil more over kill damage, Cho actually being really broken if a game goes pass 20mins and the player isn't brain dead, it's clear that riot is banking on the weebs who literally want to be like faker, and thats okay, if any one want to play a moba where you get 1 shoot for not playing perfect we'll play Dota2. I mean Galio is a thing, his q was a bug that they never found how to fix after about 8months come to say they leaving it cause it makes him fun, then if double tick damage wasn't enough they buffed the scaling on it, new urgot trash champ, fun design but trash champ his ult has the hit box a tresh fun, lee sin getting base damage increased soo many times i can't count soo did nar and yasuo. And the biggest offender to me is reverting champs and calling it buffs and nerf, just stop riot.

[@jaronbeard6]

Dont blame riot blame there fucking balance team everything else is good its just there weak link is the most important link

[@proxayyyy7191]

@@jaronbeard6 And who employs said people?

[@proxayyyy7191]

@@jaronbeard6 but riot can just employ different people and make it a non weak leak riot is the fault for employing the weak link

[@Moejave1TTV]

"riven only has cds & is fucking disgustingly op" *plays kled*

[@GilgameshGDLK]

I appreciate the rant with "Hurt" slowly building up a crescendo.

[@babbababaabab]

I feel like hashinshin is the flat earther of lol

[@TeHPHoBoS999]

The one thing hash has said that I haven't seen elsewhere is that tank items need synergy. That's how you balance tank items so everyone else can't take advantage of good items. Bruisers can have the good one-off items like cleaver and hydra.

[@TJskillz169]

Seems like when Hashinshin isn't screeching and tilting out of his mind, he brings up great points. I've been thinking to myself lately that league's power is getting horrifically power crept, but never thought about just how much tanks have been power crept up too.

[@spetsnazcammando]

Back for my dose of Super top gameplay.

[@RShezmo]

So... Hashinshin wants the brusiers to have a version on steroids of grasp.

[@Themeir]

NERF GRASP BTW

[@WorstZedTW]

6:04 >waiting to complain how ridiculous the tank build is >speachless because he managed to took down half of his health

[@Vlad-xg7vx]

Last time he said that sunfire cape falls so hard, no he says that its overpowered :DDDD

[@banditjuno6989]

love watching your videos. Makes me play league more and rage about facts. Hashinshin is so relatable and he speaks for me, i feel like. KNAYM SAYIN

[@Locer1996]

THE MUSIC THO IT FITS SO WELL

[@frostjoke40]

his contradicting his orn video

[@carlosmedrano6868]

frostjoke40 Sven yep

[@ntdb0ss]

How does this sound; every forth basic attack deals 2 percent max health damage and heals you for half that amount, while ignoring 50% armor for 3 second. 6 second coldown

[@storm0148]

Hashinshin made an opsie OH YEAH YEAH OH YEAH YEAH HE VOTES FOR OBAMA

[@Feligresa]

Funny how people still didn't understand that Riot "balances" for the sake of change, not for the sake of balance.

[@luckylukas2282]

""Never going to allow anyone to just be useless" Taliyah, Aurelion Sol who they arguably put a lot of time and talent into, Fiddlesticks for the longest fucking time, Reksai for a while now, IVERN. Hashinshin has been going about 50/50 with his complaining nowadays and that's good, he doesn't just fully bitch about EVERYTHING that goes against his main champs, he's more fair abou tit, but sometimes he still says just stupid dumb shit without thinking about it first.

[@rehsadz2022]

Hash : can i get a counter gank Team : yes enemy team : * counter that counter gank *

[@donwalker1011]

Man, I miss the old tank meta The best damage taken class

[@octoslut]

cause the retarded op conq didn't exist hey lets give every champ true damage xD heheh - riot games

[@DefinitelyNotBandee]

@@octoslut Hey, be happy that the scuttlecrab doesn't deal true dmg. YET!

[@anarchistlilia]

0:37 SKARL GİVE ME SOME FUKİN HELP

[@allthatihaveisallthatyougi6649]

*TANK* You for uploading

[@811chelseafc]

“My jungler is brain dead while their jungler gets to keep ganking me....” this is Hash’s biggest problem. He actually seems to believe the game is balanced around him specifically. If the game isn’t exactly how he wants it then it’s broken. If he has a bad game it isn’t that specific game, it wasn’t his fault, it’s the entirety of the gameplay that’s wrong. Some (see: some) of his balancing ideas aren’t bad but they are primarily motivated to making the game more enjoyable for HIM. He’s not worried about the state of the game for its players he’s worried about it for him. He plays one class and all his suggestions are way to make that class better. He doesn’t care about anything else except top lane bruisers. And then of course some of his rants are fueled by basic gameplay mistakes like pushing without vision and, as I’ve seen on multiple occasions, fighting when he knows the enemy jungler is around.

[@darrenblair9316]

No the problem is just jungle is so incredibly powerful that they can just swing lanes by themselves. The jungler should always be active early, though not necessarily in hashinshins lane

[@811chelseafc]

Darren Blair if you’re trying to win and you know that one of the lanes has a player who often allows the enemy team to snowball by making the same mistakes over and over again on top of tilting why wouldnt you go there? He’s made himself a known quantity and people take advantage of him.

[@darrenblair9316]

@@811chelseafc Dont think you understood what i wrote.

[@811chelseafc]

Darren Blair well I agree that the jungle is maybe a little too strong early game now. I think they should have to spend more time farming. Maybe make camps stronger or give less xp but up more. But part of being good at this game is being able to play around the meta and Hash steadfastly refuses to do that.

[@darrenblair9316]

@@811chelseafc To put it simply, I meant Jungler as a role is really strong right now, so junglers on hashinshins team should always be active, though they dont necessarily have to gank for hashinshin. They can gank other lanes or get neutral objectives.

[@mightybatillo]

Hashinshin is the kind of guy that dives 1 vs 3 then complains he has no team LMAO

[@user-le9lf3bd4d]

0:36 report skaarl troll

[@aarronw4615]

When will people take this man seriously. He probably has more game knowledge than 99% of the balancing team

[@mort6578]

Why do people say he knows so much? Riot fails to balance every role...

[@xMrKadik]

I just don't get one thing in his logic. He constantly complains how there's too much damage in game. Now he complains tanks are too strong cause you don't deal enough damage to them?

[@cordgonsinged7676]

Kadik you obviously werent listening

[@ZochuPL]

Literally nothing : *happens* Tommy 309 : Tommy 3 0 9

[@neilmagsino9375]

Hashinshin: BuT HaShInShIn

[@volfstone6054]

"they're never gonna allowed an entire class to be useless" like adcs for the past 8 months ?

[@Ephringael]

Class is still mandatory in 90% of games, but is useless. Got it.

[@hhfoglia1629]

much love Tommy 3 0 9 he always pulls me a smile

[@isak2209]

2:10 Hm, okay. 2:18 Wait, what?

[@dingil2052]

Its actually nice that hashinshin has become a lot calmer, now you can actually take him serious because he actually makes some good points. But before that his raging would overshadow everything.

[@coldheaven2584]

He is usually calm, only his rage footage are on reddit

[@Hotwopper]

I remember playing Kled vs tanks when conqueror didn't exist and oh boy you do no damage to them, and they kill you anyways. I'm on hashinshin's side this time

[@PedroomSessions]

Riot should hire Hashinshin as part of the balancing team. Let's see how League turns out HAHA

[@thelittlesagg2]

Chadshinshin listening to NFS OST? Pog

[@michalrejdovjan7298]

NERF SINGED NERF SINGED NERF SINGED

[@AstrumVerith]

In his Ornn video he complained about the weakness of tank items and now tank items are too good? Hmmmmmmmmmmmm

[@RockTheEternal]

I do remember his example, that 2 item Sion easily pounds a 2 item adc, but when a 6 item sion goes after 6 item adc with tankbuster items, sion just dies- weakness in late game, powercreep early-mid

[@GeninGeo]

Bramble vest is broken but thronmail is useless because they took away what made it useful the damage refelect . Tank items have not been powercreeped bramble vest is just broken in lane hash is off his rocker cause if tank items were powercreeped fighters would benifit by being able to go 2 powercreeped tank items then going power creeped adc items (which belogned to fighters first). Hash keeps confusing fighters being shit because riot doesnt give them damage on their items to keep them from adcs instead of just melee locking the items with tanks being powerful. Riot doesnt want bruisers to exist as their own class they want them to be the walking damage buff station for adcs and mages using black cleaver and abyssal mask respectively which would make them 'good' in team fights but hash keeps asking to be good in team fights (do aoe) instead of just doing your job in teamfights by doing single target damage to a high priority target assuming that mages and adcs stop getting more and more defensive failsafes for being caught. Bramble wasnt made to be 'anti bruiser' it was made to be anti adc while nerfing the thornmail that was actually anti adc and to give tanks a way to use grevious wounds so adcs didnt use them as mobile healing stations. It happened to fuk over fighters in the laning phase because fighters do less damage than adcs per auto attack and most fighters dont have sustain or build it anymore because they have to build enough defense to survive or forgo all defense to build damage to basicly be an assassin instead of a fighter ie look at hash's build and his build in all these videos (only fiora is diffrent because fiora is basicly ranged with her q), thats just hash talking bullshit. And Thornmail having damage for hitting it and having an attack speed slow is anti synergising with itself and a 1second grevious wounds proc is absolutely nothing they if bramble and thornmail can only get a 1 second proc then Executioners calling and mortal reminder need a .5 second proc. 250hp for 20 armor was not worth it espeically when thornmail was THE big armor buy item.

[@Ephringael]

9 Damage. Assuming 100 armor on the tank, and an average magic damage reduction of 30% on the attacker, Bramble deals nine damage to the attacker. Who's a champion Hashinshin hates? Oh, Viktor! Yeah, lets say Riot nerfed Viktor's overall DPS by 9 to prevent him from being viable top. He'd probably go on a rant about how Riot was a joke and that nine damage is nothing. Nine damage.

[@GeninGeo]

@@Ephringael That would be a joke nerf because 1 Tanks easily surpass 100 damage and usually go from bramble vest into bambi's cinder into sunfire cape. Viktor being a mage doesnt rely on auto attack so he doesnt have to worry about procing bramble vest and even when he does auto attack he does it after casting q so the damage would be absorbed by viktors shield. It's a problem for fighters because they rely on auto weaving to do any damage and riot took away their raw damage on their items and supplemented it with less than equal health. while magic resist is such a garbage stats on base stats and items that you'd need 2 full magic resist items to start dropping damage from bramble cinderhulk tank skills and mage skills but fighters cant build more than one slot for magic resist due to having to build at least 2 armor items to survive walking in an adcs poke range and having to build 3 damage items or else they cant do anything to an adc mage or assassin who comes after them.

[@therealmoose6441]

tommy 3 0 9 Bramble vest

[@ijnebenji6705]

Well, to be fair, I’d rather have any other meta rather than tank meta coming back. That shit literally was never fun

[@hachireloaded5717]

"Punishment for sitting on a lane" LOL. If you don't get killed like a fucking noob, then there is punishment for the enemy jungler. He loses a lot of time, plus: if your jungler has a fucking brain, he will steal enemy camps and gank other lanes. The problem with hashinshin is that he lacks a lot of map awareness. He's not bad mechanically speaking, but he has a lot of problems checking the map.

[@gizmobrooch8577]

I think void staff 100% needs a nerf to magic pen%. It should not fucking be 40%. It should be 15% and increase the Ap on the item by 40. Since the item wouldnt be great

[@swrml7375]

dont know about the number but mages in general need a nerf

[@gizmobrooch8577]

@@swrml7375 void needs to be gutted. You shouldnt be able to get 700 or more ap. While having 33-40 magic pen. and 40% pen. You pretty much do true dmg to adcs, and a lot of bruisers. Fuck even tanks are taking near true damage. I feel like mage items have only been buffed the past 2 years. Most have way to much shit in their. for the cost. Like its an issue. The game has been an issue this last year and a half. I bet it doesnt help that they have to re work akali and irelia again. Along side adc items for like the 3rd time this year.

[@elsavic]

people were doing more damage with full tank items than with full dmg builds. Remember people going sunfire katarina, top on hit/tank fizz, tank yi? You know why? Assassins did more dmg with full tank builds than going full damage. THAT SHOULDN'T happen. Tank items should be there to be bought by everyone, one or two per build, not that you can build 6 pure tank items, do more damage, outsustain, outuilize and complete stomp on every other build. Yeah the damage in the game is insane, but they can just nerf some numbers, not completely gut assassins, ruin bruisers and just let tanks dominate without counterplay. Them removing Conq just shows how hard they want tanks to dominate at the beginning of the season. LOL should be about counter picking, they have squishy mid and adc and supp? Pick an Assassin. They have an tank? Pick sustain dmg. They have assasssins and burst? Pick tanks. Not just one being superior to the other, while one meta is alive you cant play another. Its not fun gameplay seeing 20 champs in 99% of your games

[@simonedebellis6783]

7:35 care for audio

[@alaistairlee7557]

Shhhh another spherestalker vid is coming

[@lucasbiermann257]

the funny thing is that if they do what he says the game will be worse cause it will still be shitty in a different way but the games would take like 30min if you are lucky and the normal amount would be 45 50 min that way people would start to leave even faster. i am glad he is not in the ski...balance team

[@poppetx]

''why is there no punishment for just sitting on a lane'' because jungle camps barely respawn anymore and junglers have nothing else to do source: i main jg

[@Qban_Guy]

Thornail used to be worse if I’m not mistaken? It would deal back a percentage of the damage taken. So pretty much any champ that had high crit chance would just kill themselves by attacking.

[@jacibeag213]

I dont think they need to remove thornmail, just bring it back to what it used to be.

[@Emeowy]

he is not wrong at all

[@willofthewisp9864]

I love how he skips over the fact that cold steel counteracts thornmails whole point.

[@NedGroomeFilms]

So basically I use to be jungle main and was super pissed with 9.2 patch notes, now that Im maining top dear god am i so happy jungle is being nerfed

[@hentaionicewithranchdressi5466]

Hash cant blame a lockdown champ, its the junglers fault not choosing other choices

[@ionutsaviuc94]

this is very true, i went hail of blades darius against mundo, without the true dmg or cleaver,i couldnt scratch him

[@bonnierodriguez8821]

FRIUS - GAMING CLIPS & GAMEPLAY well obviously, u need to get cleaver with some grevious wounds

[@Mowadium]

dude why did u upload now i was about to sleep

[@abortionsrus3037]

oh yeah yeah

[@jaronbeard6]

@@abortionsrus3037 yeah yeah

[@Sai69-n1m]

@@iDaddy69 really nigga

[@cloniee]

oh yeah yeah

[@bronzemordekaiser5465]

1:11 So this is why riot nerfed jungler levels

[@Oblivion0fate]

As soon as he said "i didnt say conqueror shouldn't exist" i thought of 4 Sphere videos where he said exactly that. I watch too much hashin.

[@BigBalgruuf]

I would say there is punishment by sitting by a lane without getting kills