Haute42 M16 Plus Review: The Best Leverless Controller For Your Money Right Now

My review of the leverless/hitbox style controller, the Haute 42 M16 Plus. Is this a controller you should buy? Find out in this in-depth review.
Thanks to Haute 42 for providing me with this stick for free to review. Check the links below if you’d like to buy it:
Amazon USA ONEED/SIXSIR
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Amazon JP SIXSIR/ONEED
amzn.to/3WTrQlC
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Aliexpress Haute42 Official
www.aliexpress.com/store/1103...
Aliexpress Haute42-COSMOX
www.aliexpress.com/store/1103...
Chapters:
Intro 00:00
Inside the box 00:12
Specs 00:20
ASMR 01:28
Specs (cont) 01:57
Compatibility 02:58
Comparisons with the kitsune 03:23
Price 03:48
Should you buy it? 03:58

[@MrEljue]

Love this controller. Also the wind engine switches Haute sells are an excellent upgrade.

[@Chris_F]

I really want to try the wind engines! Which do you recommend?

[@Mentallyuntouchable]

I wanted something like this as opposed to the T16 model because I feel like the black finish just looks so much better imo. Glad they put this out.

[@Haute42Gaming]

Thank you for doing this， and much appreciate the suggestion you've given to the players，that really helps！！！

[@Chris_F]

My pleasure!

[@rod_2109]

Ordered this after your review! I’m super pumped to get it and stupidly scared because it’s my first leverless ever lol. Great content!

[@Chris_F]

Ooooo wow! Let me know what you think once you try it out, I wanna know!

[@barnacleman3233]

Thanks for the review Chris! I'm telling everyone at my local that I'm bringing an M16 next week and they better watch out!

[@Chris_F]

Let me know what you think about it!

[@russellbailey5567]

I I just started using lever less controllers and I started off with two of the Haute controllers. I finally figured out how to update them from your videos and others. I personally like my Haute controller that has all 24mm buttons and only one 30mm (the main jump button).

[@casinoz8013]

I have M+ with 12 buttons. Swapped the crystal switches out for phantom switches and love it. Phantoms just make it feel really smooth but crystals were still decent.

[@fighting1fefnir]

Absolutely love my M16 Plus, though I felt the opposite on one bit, I had the smaller version and upgraded to the Plus because I wanted a little more space for my palms. Highly recommend the Lofree Ghost switches if you can get a handful of them to try out, the only complaint I had with the original was the switch sensitivity and the Ghosts have a little more weight to them, so no more accidental inputs from resting my fingers on the buttons. You really can't beat these things for as cheap as they are, the quality is great, and it's a no brainer to recommend.

[@Flashlegz]

This has been my go to leverless, I might even like it more than my Kitsune, the all metal build feels awesome and much less of a fingerprint magnet. I think the buttons are real nice, the glossy sides together with the LED lighting make it look slick, it's funny that the Kitsune doesn't have RGB on the buttons. You can also use the Booter 5 that Haute/Cosmox sell, it's really low profile.

[@mukburbur696]

i’m using the m12 plus with silent switches and clear buttons and it’s amazing

[@jpr1est]

Using the S16 atm. I hope they do a 24mm button version for the M plus series. I like that I can keep a fixed hand position with 24mm buttons with fingers hovering over all buttons without my palms ever needing to move but would rather rest palms on the hitbox itself than the height difference of desk while also having option of lap play

[@aminenahi8398]

I have already the hitbox arcade controller and snackbox micro,but the cosmox haute M16 plus is the Best by far

[@DissipatedTire]

Yea, I bought and modded a snackbox and spent around 300$ 😢. Extreme buyers remorse, the quality and function does not compare to the haute boards.

[@Chris_F]

Same here and I agree!

[@Chris_F]

@DissipatedTire I think a lot of people don’t realize how good having a GP-2040 board really is

[@Eliik]

Thanks for the review I always wanted to try a leverless controller and loved the look of the Kitsune but the price is ridiculous. I love the layout on this one and it has way more options.

[@Chris_F]

Totally agree!!

[@Rav123123]

Really leaning towards this controller but, I'm not sure if I will like all the buttons being the same size.

[@ZimmerZirwes]

Nice! Thanks a lot! But I think, I have to wait until it comes to germany. Looking for the smaller Keys in the S16 for the beginning. Should be more than enough for getting into it. If it gets serious, I'll update to something like this one. Thanks for your videos!

[@Chris_F]

You’re very welcome, glad you liked it!

[@waishanchan5316]

Haven't tried the crystal switch. Comparing to the red v2, I love the wind engines switch. I can feel the different when pressing the button with my pinky finger.

[@Chris_F]

I want to try those next!

[@warwickrework519]

Do a video of wind engine​@@Chris_F

[@Chris_F]

Gotta buy them first!

[@lycheely]

Wind engine switches definitely feel more responsive and less mushy than the crystals. Only downside is they block the rgbs and are a little bit noisier

[@RickyRank]

10/10 Just waiting on the silver/platinum version to release

[@Chris_F]

Personally I prefer black but silver/plat are fire too

[@darren_dazza]

Are slide movements controller possible?, bassically are u able to slide ur fingers across the buttons to make half circle movements for throws in t8 easier?

[@Chris_F]

Yes, totally possible - I can do wavedash throw with king using slide without issues. HOWEVER, I highly suggest buying some finger sleeves used for mobile phone games and putting them on the finger(s) you use to slide. It makes it SO much easier!

[@Un1234l]

Looks like an incredibly well-designed controller. I think I'd rather have 24 mm buttons for less travel time though, and to keep most of the buttons within super quick reach.

[@Chris_F]

I used to feel that way too, but once I started practicing on the 30mm buttons I found that it doesn't make much of a difference at all for me. We're all different so pick what works for you!

[@hokagoteatime100]

The crystal switches were changed to allow the rgb lighting to shine through as stated by Haute/CosmoX. They are the same as the reds...

[@Flashlegz]

Unless it's a placebo, I think the crystal switches feel better, plus the buttons are better compared to the regular M16 so it could be that too.

[@Chris_F]

afaik when I looked it up, the crystal switches have less travel distance than reds

[@Bamboozle65]

Does this support the SF6 tournament legal hitbox rules? only asking because I learned shortcuts specifically for it. the d + up = neutral

[@Chris_F]

Yes it does! Every controller with a GPU-2040 board offers many SOCD settings including the Capcom SF6 d+u = neutral setting

[@Bamboozle65]

@@Chris_F oh good to know! Thank you, this is exactly what I was looking for in a hitbox extra buttons and good build that doesn’t break the bank

[@Jtn53]

Still waiting for them to make one with 24mm buttons aka a big version of the S16

[@Chris_F]

That’s how I felt the first time I used the T16 but honestly it’s pretty easy to adjust to. I can play on ball top, bat top and leverless so maybe I’m just easier at adapting than most, but if the size is holding you back I don’t think it’s a big issue!

[@MikeLiteraus]

Best bang for the buck on the market. I made my first hit box almost 6 years ago with an obsidian, bought a true hit box 4 years ago. I bought this for when friends come over, but now its my go to!

[@Chris_F]

let me know what you think when you get it!

[@MikeLiteraus]

​@@Chris_Fit's great! Also, on a personal note. I want to thank you for your how to, learn videos, and drills. You're by far the most concise and make your information the most digestible for scrub players like myself. IMHO, you're the best in the "community" for any level of player to learn from. 👍

[@EccentricArc]

I got the m16 2 weeks ago and it kinda hurts my left wrist from moving my hand up to hit the directional buttons, I think it’s bc I’m not used to leverless/ keyboard but it’s amazing

[@Chris_F]

all leverless controllers take time to get used to at first but once you do theyre really great!

[@Ismi2002]

Please tell me i want to buy a leverless controller but I don’t know which one is the best for tekken 8 right now haute ,razer or hitbox

[@Chris_F]

not hitbox or razer. Haute is great, but any controller with a GP-2040 board and more than 12 buttons will be very good for Tekken

[@dgeci]

Will there be a way to make this controller compatible with the next switch coming next year? A software update? Or we will need an adaptator?

[@Silent_Avenger]

There's zero information right on the next Nintendo console

[@Chris_F]

I have no idea

[@dgeci]

@@Silent_Avenger I know but my question is more is there any way to update this controller without buying anything else (if the next switch is "easy" to add)? Like a patch ? Or in any case, I will need to buy an extra stuff ? cause there is no way to add any new platform on this controller without buying a converter.

[@soridosnake1449]

i have kitsune, do you think this one worth buying as well ?

[@Chris_F]

If you have a lot of extra money then it’s probably fun to get just to see what it’s like to use extra buttons. If not, I personally wouldn’t replace a kitsune. The kitsune isn’t a bad controller by any means, I just think it’s too expensive for what you get

[@blackclover4375]

I have the r16. It's hard to do slide techniques on it. Is it possible to do it on m16?

[@Chris_F]

Slightly easier than the T16 (which I assume feels almost the same as the R16) I really suggest buying some finger socks for mobile phone gaming and putting them on the finger(s) you slide with. Makes it MUCH easier

[@MrAstro7110]

Do you think it's worth spending more instead of getting the T16?

[@Chris_F]

If you travel for offline events a lot, yes, since the build quality is a lot sturdier

[@AryaStarky]

Video title should be referring to Mayflash F500 Flat. 24mm layout is superior for my hands

[@Chris_F]

Two problems with the mayflash that I have: 1) it’s not sold in Asia and I live in Japan 2) the stock buttons are not sanwa so they need to be replaced for serious tournament players

[@Fanatic.....1]

What binds do you use for the extra buttons

[@Chris_F]

Depends on the game! SF6 I set DI on the button below MK and then in use the rest of the extra buttons for shortcut commands in training mode. My setup for tekken is much more complicated so check out this video to see what I do: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rHm8fn9rZdqlrZIsi=t3e5PAjo_0ZZDkwz

[@Fanatic.....1]

@@Chris_F thanks a ton

[@sushi521]

Does this have the same size buttons as the non-plus size version?

[@Chris_F]

yes

[@sushi521]

@@Chris_F appreciate the response and love your videos man! One of the main resources I’ve been recommending to friends who are just getting into fighting games through SF6

[@Chris_F]

@sushi521 thank you so much!! If you get the controller let me know what you think

[@realizewave1513]

Is the m16 plus the same size as the t16?

[@Chris_F]

More or less yes, I didn’t compare but it’s similar

[@johningles1098]

Can you turn off the led in the top left?

[@Chris_F]

yes!

[@tchogon4692]

doesn't the ps5 adapters add too much input lag?

[@Chris_F]

No, the amount of lag they add is negligible

[@joemakin3026]

Mayflash magic s ultimate works too

[@Chris_F]

Didn’t know, thx!

[@ghiidra__]

regretting my snackbox micro purchase a few months ago now 😵‍💫

[@Chris_F]

I bought one last year too so I know what you mean

[@fitzciaran]

Just picked it up! All those little buttons on the top sold it for me, I've always been frustrated with limited extra buttons on my f500 stick

[@Darksid3c3]

I'm waiting for R16 version of m Plus

[@Mumaakil]

Yea Haute makes the best leverless controllers on the market right now and its not even close

[@gabenewell7505]

Not best

[@Chris_F]

@gabenewell7505 what brand do you think is the best right now?

[@gabenewell7505]

@@Chris_F standard hitbox or fightbox. Fightbox F8 for example

[@Mumaakil]

@@gabenewell7505 hahaha the fightbox is not even near as good as mayflash flat but even still the haute is better and the regular hitbox is laugahble. no one with a brain is buying a hitbox for retail price lol

[@Chris_F]

@gabenewell7505 I really dislike the ergonomics of both (the edge cuts into my wrists) and they are large enough to make travelling to my locals annoying. I also think both have pretty poor PCBs which offer nothing over the GP-2040

[@xkoan-yy7lg]

i wish i got this before i got the t and b16

[@Chris_F]

It released fairly recently so in hindsight I don't think you made a mistake getting those first! Plus I still love my T16, it's easy to put custom art in which is always nice

[@xkoan-yy7lg]

⁠are you still using DI on the extra right thumb button and parry on top right pinky? what do you think of DI on extra left thumb button and parry on extra right thumb button? :)

[@Chris_F]

@xkoan-yy7lg I parry with my pinky on top right and DI with my thumb below MK

[@xkoan-yy7lg]

@@Chris_F thank you chris you are the man

[@fluff0808]

Can this controller be used on Xbox series x?

[@SrMomo1]

you have to buy a mayflash x adapter. It works like a charm on series X.

[@fluff0808]

@@SrMomo1 how much is it?

[@tomkrawec]

@@fluff0808 I'm in the UK, so I won't report my price as it might not be in your currency. However, I searched for 'mayflash x adapter' and one of the top links gave me the price in my location and my currency.

[@WeebWeeabo69]

Wind engines man, gotta go the wind engines!

[@Chris_F]

Already put in my order

[@biggamallafluer2758]

I wish I didn't buy a Kitsune and got this instead

[@Chris_F]

Real talk I think the kitsune is a scam

[@vhex61]

Makes an updated plus version but still no ps5 compatibility 🤷🏻‍♂️it’s a pass for me

[@Chris_F]

Adding ps5 compatibility ONLY works if they (or any controller company) pay Sony to make it an officially licensed product, which will cost the consumer way more than just buying a mayflash adapter. Is that what you want?

[@vhex61]

@@Chris_F isn’t it just a matter of outdated PCB? Snackbox micro is not officially licensed with ps5 but they have a ps5 compatible versions. So does a few other leverless but its disappointingly not common. I do like the haute layout though , sadly it’s not ps5 compatible yet. Having to carry yet another item (ps5 adapter) is just annoying.

[@Chris_F]

@vhex61 it’s not about it being an outdated pcb. snackbox uses the brook ps5 board which is more expensive than a standard brook board bc of the ps5 functionality. My issue with that is the brook ps5 board (other than working on ps5) offers nothing better than what a GP-2040 does. GP-2040 offers a TON of functions like profile switching, complete button mapping configuration and other really great features. For me, those features + the low price (easily replaced in case of damage) are more than worth having to carry another adapter around

[@shoryukensaucealtaccount7971]

​​@@Chris_Fdo you know if it works on ps5 current gen games? Or only ps4 version of games on the ps5. I never play any ps4 versions on my ps5 if there is an option between the two, and I know people get confused by this concept because some people still accidently download the wrong version of a new game

[@Chris_F]

@shoryukensaucealtaccount7971 sorry I’m not sure since I don’t own a PS5 so I only can confirm that it works with the converters I mentioned at fighting game tournaments

[@JusticelimLee]

Surprise me that world champ Uma kagami use normal layout no buttons here and there ,how did he win by not using cheating layout???

[@johnpreston230]

in china it's 100 dollars

[@Chris_F]

That’s cheap!

[@johnpreston230]

@@Chris_F yeah, but only very few shops on taobao sell it. Wondering if it's legit. thanks for this nice review, it's the best video I have seen on this hitbox, and I am looking everywhere.

[@lamMeTV]

so turbo mode makes it tournament illegal lmao AND its missing a left pinky button. Hard pass

[@Chris_F]

Almost every modern controller has turbo mode, and this can be disabled in the GPU-2040 settings. This has nothing to do with the controller and everything to do with the board

[@sasaawd1]

Like @Chris_F said, turbo is on a lot of hitboxes and can be disable/switche for the Profile switch option (honestly i would have that for default lol) and if the all issue is the pinky button, then the R16 is for you, which has the extra button right under ur pinky and it's also cheaper since it's like the T and Crystal variants (Plexiglas, so cheaper, even here in europe it's like 70 to 80ish on Aliexpress and Banggood)