Have We Been Ignoring This Company?!

[@Cid_1]

I love Lionsteel machine quality over the last 2 years. They also started to raise the HRC on new models we should start rolling out over the coming months.

[@ScrubLordJenkins]

I was going to say. The only reason ive avoided Italian knives is because ive heard they tend to have soft steel

[@bornonthebattlefront4883]

If they hit even 59-61 on their M390 and such That would be an improvement for sure, especially when they have been known for some 57 HRC blades Ig we will just have to see But as it stands now Lion steel isn’t on my horizon just yet

[@achimgeist5185]

I own a Myto special edition in K390 and it is at 64 hrc.

[@Cid_1]

@@bornonthebattlefront4883 Yeah they hit 59-61 on M390. The one that came out at around 58hrc was like 7 years ago (and that's a 1 blade sample). When most companies had shitty heat treats. Lionsteel and most Italian Maniago companies use Trattamenti Termici Todesco SAS for their heat treatment. The companies say the desired range and the third party heat treating company, follows the given protocols to get there.

[@HQuass]

63 HRC was the goal from Lionsteel on this knife. I've asked Tools for Gents about it.

[@experienceprecision5406]

Hats off to Lionsteel. I can appreciate any company foreign or US stepping it up.

[@elde667]

Always concerned with HRC on Italian knives. Really like them, have several but HRC has been an issue in the past. Thanks for the review Jerad. (Hope you’re able to get the HRC Tester soon.)

[@Cid_1]

Magnacut HRC is listed as 60.5 - 62.5HRC But that's on all models including fixed blades. I read recently the HRC was raised but can't remember to what, I believe 62-64HRC on the models I was looking at. it was folders at least.

[@S8NSAYS]

I managed to snag a Spymyto, and although the detent is on the lighter side, I love it. Lionsteel did a great job on it in my opinion.

[@stevenlachance8576]

Got one as well like it better without the flipper tab. Have not done anything to test the steel. Look forward to someone doing so

[@S8NSAYS]

@@stevenlachance8576 I love the looks of it without the tab!

[@kerryrwac]

The "extra" screw is installed when you remove the flipper tab. It looks better and keeps debris out of the screw hole. Now, to watch the rest of the video and see if you figured that out lol.

[@moss7220]

I can honestly say that the Lionsteel TM1 is one of the baddest knives in my collection. It's hard to top the odd combination of an integral lockback on bearings. I believe it was Apostle P that said it "opens with the authority of a 12 gauge", & he wasn't lying. Though I've yet to see any torture tests, I'd go as far as to say that it likely rivals tri-ad lock knives in the strength department.

[@Antimonyish]

The removably flipper started with the TRE and in an attempt to comply with faschist laws. They caught on people don't always like flippers so the option to remove it became very atractive. On the TRE you could screw the flipper on the spot where the thumb disc would go and it works EXTREMELY well as an Emerson Wave feature.

[@vascularpete]

Define fascist

[@Tatterdsoul]

Like the removable…and dig that detent audio. It’s amazing how used to “Great” clips I get. Then I see others n think…Sheesh copy Neeves why don’t ya . Master..top ta bottom.❤ Cheers

[@kid-salami6134]

I grabbed one of these 6 months ago and I love it

[@Iyrthe]

I’ve been looking for new videos of this knife every day ever since I ordered it. It seems very underrated. Cool that you got it too!

[@johncaban4310]

Thanks for the review. I just ordered the aluminum version in green color. Got it for $128. Waiting for a reply back from lion steel to see if they offer the pocket clip screw with the glass breaker so I can put it on this knife like my Myto.

[@user-Bladewalker]

I think they are running them at a decent HRC on a lot of there magnacut but not sure on this one

[@zakariaott]

I really like Lion Steel knives. Recently they've had some good looking designs

[@lando8913]

I just can't get into the folding steak knives but this is pretty cool.

[@NicuIrimia]

I'm happy to see you finally get a lionsteel. Please do the 4 year awarded TRE G10 from their lineup. It's the cheapest M390 that looks amazing. I can personally vouch that they have great tech support.

[@ct2368]

Having the option to keep or remove the flipper is a huge improvement! I won't buy some knives simply because they have a flipper tab.

[@flannigan7956]

I only have 1 in the sr22, fabulous orange aluminum integral. Might not get another example as this collection wraps up, I didn't insist on a 64 hrc but that'd be cool if all the Italian brands got so sick of hearing about it that they found a way and got it together heh heh. I think the same fellow designed both, sr22 is exquisite in hand

[@lowbrowminis]

love the removable flipper

[@hennybogan59]

No ​​companies are making a 3.5 inch hollow grind wharncliffe why?

[@joshglaze6571]

Really like the look of this knife!

[@velvetine74]

So glad LS moved over from Sleipner to Magnacut a few years back.

[@Obsidian-One]

If lionsteel and mkm or whatever itialian companies would adjust their HRC for almost every steel they use, they would be absolutely amazing! They have everything else except for hard steel

[@SomoneTookMyName]

I carry a Lionsteel knife rather often in my rotation. Really good knives.

[@tomquirin4231]

brotha jerad/jman, great blade n vid there bro, ive never personally heard of this comapny but i am learning from you bro , i love em slicety n dicey , thanks > tom !

[@tizben]

I know that theyre integrals, but shouldnt there be no holes in the "backepacer" area so theres more confort for tougher cuts? I thought that was the whole point of it

[@Sleepy_spartan717]

I had the sr2 a point while back which was an integral and it was just ok. It was also the aluminum version. The sleipner steel just ok in performance. But this model I really like the look of.

[@spyderg6509]

I like this knife, however the lock bar gap looks weird imo lol...

[@HappyWifeHappyKnife]

Lionsteel makes some good looking knives. i just wish they would step up their HT and wonky QC.

[@jeebaz]

J'aime beaucoup cette compagnie pour leurs pliants et leurs fixes. D'ailleurs d'autres compagnies comme Bastinnelli ou Spyderco travaillent avec Lion Steel

[@bassassassinnn7459]

I like the integral aspect. Not a big fan of Lionsteel, but they're making some decent moves lately.

[@toddcarr.]

They appear to be very well made but until we see testing on their HRC (because of historically horrible heat treats) then its definatly a no go for me especially at premium prices. Especially on a steel like magnacut. Otherwise build quality is on point and the removable flipper is a nice touch along with the tool. Main attraction for me is the steel though but for some aestethic and build quality comes first all depends what you like. Thanks for the great vid and keep making sharp things fun and enjoyable.

[@christopherlaborde1670]

Unrelated question - is there a rough relationship between diamond stropping paste aggregate size in microns and whetstone grit?

[@foxx4447]

Google - jewel clark sanding conversion chart You’ll get a table with mesh/grit/micron equivalents

[@SweetTooth8989]

I've been ignored them. Always loved many of their models although they're a bit more than I'm usually willing to spend on a blade. Might bite the bullet eventually but there's several models of theirs I've had my eye on.

[@krazy_roach1698]

Thanks for sharing bro

[@DarrellKirkland-t1c]

They could get ahead of the game if they would just start putting all lockbar cutouts on the inside!

[@slvrnblu]

Don't think it would work for this with that big chamfer they have on the scales. You'd wind up with a cut out there. The reason people don't do it more is you have to have the scale the same width for the whole depth of the cutout or it looks ugly. Either need thick scales or not much contouring.

[@alanpillow6679]

Visually sure, but there’s a much bigger bending stress concentration when the cutout is on the inside. It decreases the overall life of the lockbar unless you change the geometry to compensate for it, which isn’t always possible based on the knife’s shape/size. That said, I like the look of interior cutouts as well lol. Happy to see some beefier titanium frame locks opting for that recently, like Manganas Aurelia

[@mikereese15]

Looks dope

[@RegularJoeKnife]

They make awesome slip joints.

[@timwhite5562]

Got one a month ago. Love the knife, didn't like the flipper so it's off. TBH I'm not a big flipper fan, but I found my thumb slipping a few too many times. It changes the weight and opens faster with a reverse flick. You can even feel the difference whether or not you put the smaller screw they provide if you remove the flipper, in spite of the screw weighing close to nothing. *FWIW I can't touch the tip when it's closed. If I were a cynic I'd say that it just means inconsistency, but I'm not...

[@ryansmock2717]

Lionsteel's best model is the ROK. It has all their best features, my favorite being the spring clip that hides in the handle (H.WAYL). Action isn't fantastic and the heat treat is questionable, but otherwise I like my ROK.

[@adamm8506]

Can you do a video on good knives under like 100 bucks

[@jubblybits6155]

Blade thicknes is less than half of what you are saying. .13-.14 is correct not .25-.30

[@pintorthepintor3964]

Smooth aluminium looks slippery

[@CloudyShinobi]

Not a fan of the way they mounted the clip

[@hificat101]

I really don't like narrow frame locks.

[@ImOnTheEdge]

Love it!

[@windowbreezes]

Lionsteel improvement… but my crusade with Italian Customer Service continues… 😂

[@No-ub5ju]

i agree

[@slvrnblu]

Honestly, aluminum is probably objectively better than Ti for knives. I do love Ti, but aluminum is plenty strong for knife handles and noticeably lighter.

[@NeevesKnives]

Possibly in some cases yes, however titanium is good because it's great for spring tension as it has great memory which is why we use it for framelocks which aluminum is not as good for

[@slvrnblu]

@@NeevesKnives That's an interesting point, the elastic modulus of titanium is definitely significantly higher, so yeah, makes a stiffer spring. That said, I am not so sure that makes it better for a frame lock. For moving the titanium a certain small distance, you have a greater increase in force, meaning there is a bigger difference between when the lock is engaged and when it is disengaged and riding on the detent ball on the blade. So if you have the same force on the locking face of the blade, in both a titanium and aluminum frame lock, your titanium lockbar is going to be pushing on the blade harder when the lock is disengaged, so less friction which is good, but potentially a lighter detent, which is maybe not as good. Conversely if you designed for the same detent force, with the aluminum you will have less force the locking surface of the blade when open, but the bar will be easier to disengage. Seems like that could be mitigated with the right geometry there. It would be interesting to get some input from an engineer that specializes in knife design.

[@citizenkane454]

Not trusting the heat treat.

[@Tom-cp6yj]

We're all ignoring Smith and Wesson knives, and it is not fair!! 😂

[@ghostkeeper5910]

They sold 10,000 smith and Wesson knives off Amazon in one week bro lol most sold knife on the planet bc ppl have no idea what they can get in china made budget knives for under $50 lol only people ignoring smith and Wesson knives are real knaf ppl 👊🏻

[@frank_MT]

I love lionsteel knives made to actually be used for a lifetime not especially this model

[@TerminalM193]

I have a hard time trusting Italian magnacut....

[@MrEancox]

I’m just so tired of short comings, no matter the design they could make it banger.

[@Realwademasters]

Looks really thick behind edge probably not much of a slicer more like a hinderer or sebenza.edit You pointed that out right after I typed this lol. Note to self wait to comment until end of video 😂

[@EnriqueScott-se3vp]

Not jimping what's up with that's😮

[@gregvanderlip7726]

BG BANG😊

[@stevenlachance8576]

Needs hollow grind, I’d bet that the steel is sub 62 HRC. Really needs the hollow grind.

[@chrisjones7352]

Meh

[@chucky47240]

It is very beautiful, but out of budget for me. I can't spend more than €80 on an industrially manufactured knife. This is my psychological limit. I could spend €300, but for a unique knife from an artisan blacksmith. A 100% hand made and assembled knife that I would fall in love with, being able to have it in my hands before buying it. So not on the Internet, but at a knife fair, for example. And if my bank account allows me at the same time too ! 😅 Love makes you blind, but not for factory-made knives.

[@Beastt17]

To each their own. With that said, I'll take my $26 Ganzo out with me for a day of chores and I'll cut anything you can cut with this $175+ knife. At the end of the day, I might have to spend 2-minutes stropping my ingot D2 back to full sharpness. I'm happy that some are happy with such knives, but I'm happy with an attractive, capable tool that tickles that knife-blade-nerve we all share.

[@davidheath2427]

Not sure you have any idea what is tickling my life nerves . But they don't come in D2 . But if thats your thing that's great .

[@jj9936]

They probably heat treat the blade around 55HRC 😢