Have you had mysterious experiences? Is this kundalini? | J. Krishnamurti

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Saanen, Switzerland 1983 - Question #3 from Question and Answer Meeting #3
'From what we read, you have had strange and mysterious experiences. Is this kundalini or something greater? And we also read that you consider the so-called process that you have undergone to be some sort of expansion of consciousness. Could it be instead a self-induced, psychosomatic thing, caused by tension? Is not K's consciousness put together by thought and words?'
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[@TheJyothy]

I am crying. How can a man be this selfless ,this loving, this clean, this orderly, this righteous? K is gift to mankind from god.

[@Liwaa6798]

You're right, he is a beautiful gift

[@ArielBojorquez]

He is amazing! But no man of flesh and bone is perfect.

[@sarfrazahmedfraz1611]

There is no. god

[@OfficialGOD]

you have him and the god that gifted him within you.

[@jjMavani]

We all are just a minor differences he lives life as it is and others can’t so start to see life as it is and you are so called free😌🙏🙏

[@seekersfinders8801]

K is so disciplined. Every moment he is responsible and aware of the implication of his words. Never indulges our herd-mentality. Never shares his personal experiences which are unverifiable for us and hence not useful. He never ever slips in his mission to set man unconditionally free. Never imprisons us in hero-worshipping K.. Just pointing out to us drop disorder, release energy and see for yourself what follows. The rest is useless, or as he says tommyrot :).

[@LEDISC]

You understand k's love.

[@LEDISC]

Love is not to have any motive to exploit other's weaknesses.

[@Liam-ke2hv]

And he does all this while being belittled by people who have no semblance of what it is he's pointing to. What immense strength

[@kuldeepupadhyay2092]

Presence of Krishnamurti is like the pure wind of Himalayas.

[@SatyaKaliYam]

He’s talking about spiritual egoists. So happy to hear this from a human being...being real. 🙌⚡️❤️🙏

[@fractaled3129]

What a beautiful man. Illustrates his thoughts so perfectly, without ego and while making the listener think about the subject deeply themselves. He was truly something special.

[@daviddonoso6577]

To all those confused/"objective" haters: He's saying there's no way you can read his thoughts to find out if he lived those experiences. And then he also goes on to say that he perhaps had those experiences, but to ponder on this is trivial and also not verifiable. He states the importance of it is what you get at the end of the road (that's why he used the bath analogy). Then he explains how guru's trick people to follow them with the simple authority trick.

[@VIKASKUMAR-hg5gp]

Great service to mankind...trying to help in not getting trapped in to something small & meaningless for humans. God bless his soul.

[@sivanair2184]

He probably trying clear the cobwebs of our mind ... He is not saying the direct answer so that we can find our own answer . Otherwise the answer that he gives will be his answer and not ours . He is trying to clear the mind so that we can think for ourselves .

[@piyushmisra7660]

Psychic powers are good as long as we are not aware about them. So this is the right thing what should be told.

[@mikewright902]

@Joža Gulikoža there will always be imitators of krishnamurti, interpreters!! To follow a man is the same as following a religion!! Krishnamurti here refers to himself as the "speaker "and devoted his whole life to helping people!!!! yeah you're right🤨 you might as well believe in something that you know of😉. Lot of security there just because you found truth in a person does it mean it lies only there $sorry no one person owns it👍 although you're right comparing is the way to get the truth🤣😂

[@mikewright902]

@Joža Gulikoža thanks for being respectful!! Just so you know krishnamurti takes himself out of the equation and back then it was hard to understand him then I guess for most!! And to tell you the truth I don't know why, . he only speaks English😂 !! If it's the same message why are you comparing? I'd rather talk about spiritual principles then talk about who said it😎!! Eastern western truth is truth go find it!! No matter who it's from !!! don't look at the person, look at the message look at the truth. Period 👍✌

[@htmelle1234]

Hope you're clear about it by now... I had many of such experiences until I reach self-realization. What he's saying and very true is "what's important is that you're clean" - the end result. The details are of no importance... although spectacular, here today, gone tomorrow.. but what you get out of it is substantial; that, you keep forever.

[@mikewright902]

And not take the role of a guru I concur

[@jidnyasam9013]

Whenever you think you need a slap of no nonsense knowledge and that you need to be put in your place, without losing on the aspect of love and fun, you should come listen to this guy! And in the end you don't even have to accept what he says.. Even he'd agree 😀

[@vishnuacharya6352]

Thank you for this video. I had JK’s lectures at J.J.School of Arts maiden on some evenings simply cos I was student St. Xavier’s college. It went all above head. Today, having mellowed after many empty doors, it seems to filter through like water through a sieve. Our own seeking calls the Infinite/Inner most come running to embrace us and even put in his/her lap!

[@2skyland]

One of Krishnamurti's greatest lessons that seems to get overlooked is how he pauses after each question and sits in silence before he answers it. It may be his greatest.

[@waltermessines5181]

Clever...!

[@Musika1220]

well.... everytime he does that I can't help thinking that he is "channeling". Look at his eyes.

[@karenmcardle142]

@AIWATE That's what I get also as if someone or something is implanting it in his head, and he just talks it out .

[@ashreyapathak5526]

The more I listen to him the more I like him...

[@truenews4901]

Great thing about him is this he never talks about outside changes and follow a guru but he talks about being your own guru.

[@jaykishoreduvvuri7598]

He is awesome! A man with logic and convincing power !

[@harpritparihar9723]

Grateful to those who have shared respected JK’s understanding 🙏🙏🙏

[@mariamarmatova2593]

9:25 dear lord you can feel all this great volume passion ,coming out of a full blooming soul fulfilling its mission in this lifetime 🙏🙏🙏

[@fifes0ul]

i always will go back to this, the real beautiful inspiring persons are those with nothing or very little themselves, Who despite this, give all to help and inspire others, who don’t look to satisfy an ego but just doing good deeds for those lost in a very cruel society filled with people happy to look on and preach, or worse listen to these preachers, gurus etc. and then do nothing to help the helpless but think they are better for thinking a certain way. We are all guru, god, whatever word or spin you want to put on it, do your best without thought of self and help those in need, without judgement, we are all one living being on Mother Earth.

[@Crete1943]

It's the denying of the content of consciousness (prejudice, nationalism, cultural baggage et al), that ultimately liberates one's full energy potential.

[@GauravSingh_30-01]

@@vhawk1951kl what u mean by that?

[@donaldanderson6578]

Such passion. Incredible.

[@priyaloginik.9505]

Thank you Mr. Krishnamurti ❤🙏🕉

[@kuldeepupadhyaya5875]

This is the approach of enlightened people that they will not answer your question but they will help you understand your question.They will make ur question clear to you so that you understand ur question and out of that understanding you will aware of what is.

[@Jayaprem07]

Message learned: Dont fall into the trap of: Guru-I know, you don't know, I will tell you~! Brilliant

[@carlosvelasquez3279]

summary , Krishamurti said that Kundalini is in us and is our Energy , the more stupidity we put on our minds the more energy we spend .. if we remove stupidity then our energy is higher to spend it on more productive things in life or beyond as the meditators do ....

[@june7914]

He calls himself "speaker" and that speaks volumes.

[@SheikhN-bible-syndrome]

One of his best subjects he spoke about

[@34pab]

Muy claro. Un grande este tipo!👍

[@carpenterfamily6198]

Good message - Not to be distracted or think too highly of my trivial experiences, which may have seemed significant to me compared to where I was.

[@nicktrudeau]

And since this self-destructive society is based on thought/conditioned mind, it calls it "life/living". Therefore, K kept explaining that death is the presence of intelligence/love. And in that presence of death/love/intelligence, is the absence of thought/programmed mind. But the problem is that most of mankind is attached to thought/memory.

[@silvershadows10]

Still scratching my head from time time...looks like I gotta start it over again

[@buradahaz170]

Ya there was I time I felt like that...so wt did u do

[@swapblue]

He skips the question saying this is not important.

[@TheSharkMohanty]

He is dissecting the instrumental facts, to the point, like an arrow.

[@TheScorpio1938]

Arrrow is perfect word👌for K teaching

[@duppykillera7902]

Man don't beat around the Bush, what help is this to anyone, love this old guy. Blessings

[@kencarey3477]

He was a wonderful man!

[@amitranjan8620]

More than wonderful

[@Seekfind]

Thank you do much for this channel

[@Velodan1]

Dear Rowansart, I believe the message from K is any effort to strive towards something greater is actually the desire to strengthen the self. All experience instantly becomes memory and crystalizes into ideas, beliefs and concepts. All of this only strength the self. Only through active meditation, passive observation and self awareness allows us to live for every moment. It is the total negation of desire. It is ego death and that dear Rowansart is not something we seek. We only think we do.

[@orange70383]

Just let it happen.

[@suvk7413]

Excellent !

[@krishiyer3990]

Great answer.

[@mememeyupyupyup9497]

This man is so right, nobody figured it out. In those days everyone is a Guru and nobody knows nothing. By applying what a guru do you will not doing it in your own way, if you are not! What us the point?.

[@pravisravindranaath4836]

JK was a beautiful human being. Speaks straight, sharp with his answers speakers about loving oneself and searching for you inner consciousness respects every questions by answering with patience, address someone as Sir that's something great. Reading his biography was like a calm beach with lots of the then famous icons expecting a Messiah when introduces to public, K destroyed it with a hurricane saying I am not as they have described. Yet imagine the number of followers he had from across regardless of his cut throat reasonings. Man of his time and many guru's follow his style of thoughts.

[@rameshjagtap5130]

Different man. Surely exteriors. Very good speach. Well come. Please.

[@jitendergautam1993]

Great men , so clear about myth

[@MayankYadavdivine]

Oh my god what types of logic he gives can only be given by him no one can explain things such profoundly like him.

[@ilovesowju]

Pure Gold

[@karenann5090]

He worked tirelessly into old age and was sharp as a tack.

[@JPMonstie]

Humanity has moved so far the truth and towards curiosity of the mind, that anyone who utters any universal truth will attract derision, disregard, fear and hatred. The normal loathing the natural.

[@soulochanaluz1156]

Infinite Love ❤

[@ivclaudiala]

Great!

[@TheScorpio1938]

Pleasureble projections" Is beautiful word

[@piyushmisra7660]

He was a good guide.

[@RonHenleyTV]

❤️❤️❤️

[@thewitchskitchen]

Very good advice, thank you

[@stockmohan745]

awesome...

[@collinaruldass134]

Magnificent

[@jeremysandley5632]

Its the manifestation of non self. Its not what hes gained but what he has let go to Attain this wisdom he speaks.

[@jagdevchauhansingh1613]

Beautiful

[@rowansart]

So having a spiritual awakening and experiencing other dimensions is a denial of this current world of thought and what makes up our minds and who we are? Is that what K is saying? If he were alive I'd ask him a few things about that? How is it that he can explain the state of the human race and all its madness and not see that as a creation of the insane mind, and then go on to tell us by giving energy to the guru, the kundalini awakening, or other experiences is denying our selves somehow?

[@chenkadhirvelb]

*Great Man*

[@sinaya1211]

❤️NAMASTE🙏🌺🕊✨

[@aryan8684]

Namaste

[@DYNODRUM]

"Deny the Content" ,is the Key.

[@Happyroma7]

Thank you ❣️🥺

[@sBlickle]

❣🙏

[@Utkarsh_Madan_Ary]

An ounce of Practice is worth more than Tons of Theory .

[@Bilangumus]

'' Denying of the content of consciousness ''

[@mikewright902]

Well understanding it enough to go to the end of it!! He said a lot more than that😎👍!! It seems like everyone wants to expand on this consciousness not realizing where that goes✌

[@RockHardRach]

As I’m watching this there are 233k views, 2.3k likes and 233 comments. 🤯

[@anuragsrivastava3160]

?

[@Lucvandeven272]

My god my clock just said 23.33 when i read your comment

[@calebclunie4001]

It was 2:33 in The Azores, and The Solomon Islands, when I read this, but I'm in U.S., Mountain Timezone. "Solomon, was very wise", it is said, and The Azores are in the middle of nothingness. The wisdom of understanding nowhere is everywhere, and vice versa. They say, "There's no time, like the present", but all times are like the present. Don't worry about where, or when it is. Just be present. Know that entanglement is, and contentment finds you, and non-randomness perhaps? It's of no consequence, to untangle the whole ball of twine. The opportunity for harmonizing with the choir, is ever present. Please, pardon my tangents. Why does the mind look for closure? The constant need to wrap around everything? I'm reminded, of when scientists took the measurements between the branches of one tree, and were able to determine, through understanding the golden ratio, the entire size of the forrest. The macrocosmic, and the microcosmic horizons are equally distant, from the nexus of "Us", but we form understanding from ratios that are constant throughout. Just as balance finds me, as I was 6 hours from either time zone to the East, or West, where it was 2:33am, or pm, I must also ask "Who came up with the arbitrary concept of where these measurements should begin?" We coalesce our agreement, that the timezones are where they are, and we are cool with that. Let's let cooler heads prevail.

[@DihelsonMendonca]

If you learned something, then, this something is not what you really need.

[@markbrad123]

Don't always agree with J.K; I don't think he'd want me too so maybe I do, LOL. Anyway, think he was spot on in this talk.

[@duppykillera7902]

Follow the leader.

[@billquin652]

Legend

[@maxmacful]

Which guru in business who had little experience ...ah! we have tons of them these days!!!!...

[@REALINSTITUTEOFMATHSBathinda]

everything is mysterious to me even this word mysterious

[@amschelco.1434]

I want a grandpa like this and a grand pa like dan pena.. 😊

[@florin2453]

Yeah, no desire. No nothing. Don't live, just, be a plant. Don't do anything... Their mistake is to judge desire. Desire made things happen... The man who talks about no judging is the first to judge.

[@DeepakPatel-xl3tr]

Greate

[@sunnycriti9809]

Life has so many mysteries. Everything has value ?

[@taichiyang3217]

A big slap in the face for those new age spiritual movement organizations which are built upon subtle self-centered ideals and lies. K's comments on spiritual experiences should be a wake-up call to those fools!

[@mohitshrivastava5343]

Last lines 😍😍😍

[@jocamon3969]

gospodin Krisnamurti uvek je govorio velike mudrosti.

[@nyneishabaratam3310]

Great energy personified

[@leocarbaugh5074]

If anyone feels they have learned something by listening to j krishnamurti then they obviously have missed the point.

[@beinglostable]

There's nothing to learn

[@meeranow]

Unlearning

[@youbarani]

Yes...Everybody already have it... JK or anybody cannot give it.

[@locohomicida3348]

as well as you missed the point with your statement.

[@rohitb1869]

@@meeranow You got the point.

[@saloni5464]

K is the Kundalini energy

[@nshabeer99]

Don’t mean to offend you or be rude but your comment is in direct conflict with his message, isn’t it? I am no one to judge your intention behind it and I feel you said it in good heart. Mr.K would not have agreed with it is what my opinion is. You are free to discuss.

[@ritikkumarsingh257]

With all due respect I would like to deal with the fact that he doesn't even try to talk about many spiritually things like in this case KUNDALINI while he is meant to do so. people have to learn about spiritual things.Having said that we cannot ignore the fact that all he is trying to do is to make people life simpler by asking them to ignore these things which are very complex an don't play a role in our daily lives ....that's the reason he is called world teacher 🙏

[@nalinkumarmurugesan8763]

Is there any where I can find his talks on denying the content of consciousness????

[@davidm136]

Practice “no self” All else takes its course after that

[@sumityadav-kg2kc]

Very True

[@martinratcliffe5987]

Who or what practices no self.

[@elenol1310]

@@martinratcliffe5987 good question

[@abiodunafuwape7667]

Is one attentive to the urgency?

[@rudilegrand5338]

Cet homme a démontré, là en 1983, que sans humilité et une profonde et saine morale, les quêtes de connaissance / puissance sont vaines. A 88 ans, il avait encore une puissance dans ses discours qui remettraient en place, en quelques mots, les fanatiques qui gouvernent sans humanité. Bref, à propos de la Kundalini, j'en ai peut-être fait l'expérience deux fois, spontanément. Je pense qu'il faut l'envisager ainsi, sans chercher a produire ou reproduire des expériences. Réfléchissez à l'expérience atomique et la première bombe envoyée sur le japon pour montrer au monde la puissance de la science sur la matière, par l'utilisation d'énergie incontrôlable... Krishnamurti invite les auditeurs, longtemps après sa mort (merci aux personnes qui propagent ses enseignements) à REFLECHIR (par eux-mêmes) au lieu de courir comme une poule dont on a coupé la tête (cela aussi existe vraiment). C'est une image pour faire méditer les francophones qui sont hypnotisés par le spirituel new-age.

[@mohammedirfan8027]

Does it matter, beautiful

[@rudilegrand5338]

This man demonstrated, there in 1983, that without humility and a deep and healthy morality, the quest for knowledge / power is in vain. At 88, he still had a power in his speeches which would restore, in a few words, the fanatics who rule without humanity. In short, about the Kundalini, I may have experienced it twice, spontaneously. I think it should be considered that way, without trying to produce or reproduce experiences. Think about the atomic experiment and the first bomb sent to Japan to show the world the power of science over matter, through the use of uncontrollable energy ... Krishnamurti invites listeners long after his death (thanks to the people who spread his teachings) to THINK (for themselves) instead of running like a chopped off hen's head (this also really exists). It is an image to meditate on French speakers who are hypnotized by the spiritual new age.

[@KishoreRana567]

If you dont get what he said, watch the scene from The Matrix when Neo meets Oracle. Morpheus says whatever Oracle told you is for you only.

[@AmitSingh-oo4wc]

How did no one notice the twinkle in his eyes when he talked about Andropov and Reagan! :D

[@waltermessines5181]

Life is a joke, for those who can see. I've seen it in many people relating the folly of man thinking of themselves as more enlightened than others... The subtlety of that humour is lost on many, alas.

[@abhisheksinghbhadoriya1926]

@@waltermessines5181 true

[@Shubu-Shubu]

so when we no longer waste our energy in fighting miseries, in desires and all the rest of it and simply be at ease, It happens at its own?

[@mrgruffy4499]

I recently had a strange experience,Jan. 16, 2020. I live in northern Missouri, USA. The temperature was around 20 deg. Fahrenheit. While at my computer around 10 AM, I felt a few drops of water from the ceiling land on my head. This lasted about 2 minutes. Then no more drips. A leak in my roof? Not at 20 degrees. I won't even try to interpret this experience. Though I have been into this Spirituality and Law of Attraction material.

[@sammii1429]

Whoa weird. I've had that experience once in the exact same scenario but I was too young/dumb to understand. As a child, a teen and even the majority of my early twenties I kinda tried pretty hard to avoid being consciencely aware of any 'strangeness' I'd experience. Until I became a little older, wiser & more mature as an adult & could truly understand & appreciate the meaning of 'possibility'. As a youngin' I never analyzed anything beyond the surface level. These types of moments were simply just the norm for me & seemed uneventful . I think this would make for a good philosophy discussion lol

[@yogeshrathod8112]

Come to India, Himalayan.for a New experience.!

[@Pdhanan]

Take it as having a good bath with those drops. And forget it.

[@phanichowdhary700]

@@Pdhanan lol

[@subrahmanyam80]

🙏🙏🙏

[@PrasanthKumar-vg6tp]

This man is not "trying" to say anything. Rather he "said" through out his life one thing. Find your truth yourself. No one, from Sankaracharya to Sigmund Freud- from theists to atheists - from priests to scientists, are capable to give you self realisation. You have to investigate and find it. And when you realise the eternity, you will understand it is not important...

[@Trueneutron]

K>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ALL

[@rakeshpandita3943]

Well, watched so many JK speeches. But at the end i could make out he is confusing the audience, Knowing westerners, he trying to be rational, asking target audience to experience them selves, but giving them teaser that speaker( JK himself) has experienced all that. looks he is teaching Nursery of spiritual aspirants who can be misguided with any magician show. warning them that dont come under the influence of magician.

[@anbalagankandasamy5440]

Rakesh Pandita 4

[@nicktrudeau]

What he always tried to convey to the world is that intelligence/god/universe has no description. It is descriptionless. Therefore, could only describe what is not intelligence. Meaning, the absence of intelligence is the presence of thought/conditioned mind.

[@wearealljustclowns]

Emotion can be very easily expressed. We can do the water test to see the affect of physical creation of different states in it the memory of water..this is a chemical example of learning how to identify the energies creating our emotion and the collective. Upon the energy kundalini after all the pain of my life which is of pure teachings, we can if one follows to become aware of our selves and each other, the emotions of others being altered with the water aspect that is s part of how we connect to each other and feel it and reflect as s result also which can and does create a state of global consciousness when the water is recieved and assimilated by other beings its almost viral in nature. The more beings you have that take this shared way accounts for many of the happenings within our world. And likely the more we as beings disconnect from our mother Earth, it appears that great disasters befall our world in weather, Earthquakes, there is s connection to us and our planet that has definitely been long forgotten and perhaps never known. The 2 God powers of physical and non physical coming together.

[@mohamedladhaladha7997]

If he says its Kundalini,people will start looking for it.

[@marinejulien5949]

Exactly !

[@agil151]

Marine Julien exactly that’s what I said too.

[@bhajrangbali7975]

Yup

[@sivasankarshakthivel5852]

🙏

[@rudeman300]

Few ppl who follows some religious gurus argued with me that if K is against gurus then why he was trying convey his knowledge/experiences to ppl and denying being a guru but ultimately he is doing the same thing. It sounds genius right? But I laughed inside and said if you would listen to K with all the attention and not follow him, you would understand what is the difference between following and listening someone with all the attention and focus. (I don't know how many ppl would be able to understand my thing and I am not an expert) 🙏🏼

[@phanichowdhary700]

What I really don't understand is K saying meditation don't matter, don't follow a guru etc etc. If I could be my on guru, then am I not making myself more pathetic and worse being in this world? Sometimes I wonder if I should just give up working and chasing all these status/money/family responsibilities and go o begging with a bowl. Better of to live a short life like Buddha or Vivekananda than an immoral and utterly nonsensical life such as this. However, I think I will have my spiritual awakening eventually.