Hawker Typhoon in Detail pt 2

[@pjb5757]

My Grandad made gigs that were used to assemble wellington bombers during WW2. I know he took a great deal of pride in his work, it was his chance to make a difference in WW2. These craftsmen were the unsung heroes of the war. They were never in the headlines yet without them we would not have won. A great video of a truly amazing aircraft best wishes to you from NZ.

[@TyphoonLegacyCoLtd]

Indeed, you really have to work to find information on maintainers, it is even harder to find details on the factory workers that did the impossible!

[@geoffreymusson5257]

My all time favourite aircraft,been following this project for years.I’m 83 now so I’m beginning to think that I’m going to miss the wonderful day of first flight.Geoff

[@bigmac60]

Hang on in there. We’ll make it. 😊

[@williamkennedy5492]

I do like the Tempest Mk1, I've been making a flying model for some time. There is a very good book By Pierre Closterman not sure about that spelling, Its called the big Show, he talks about flying the Typhoon in action, i was fortunate enough to have Lunch with his best friend in Khon Kean Thailand, another interesting man. I am 73 and understand your statement, but life is full of surprises so we must not think like that. Having said that it does cross my mind. Keep safe out there.

[@geoffreymusson5257]

@@williamkennedy5492 Yes it’s a good book I can also recommend a book by Roland Beamond

[@geoffreymusson5257]

@@bigmac60kind words thank you

[@TyphoonLegacyCoLtd]

We will do our best!

[@mikeburton7077]

Ian is a legend for all the work building the most underappreciated aircraft .

[@alasdairblack393]

The dedication not to mention cost of this project is staggering. How wonderful that this work is being undertaken with such stalwart persistence. What a day it will be to see and hear the first flight.

[@Michael-he7xn]

Great interview gentlemen! I met a veteran several times who flew the Typhoon. FL Ed McKay. I just had a visual of him in his 20’s with an O2 mask, aware of the tail issues, cranking up the huge Sabre engine heading off on a post D-day bombing mission. Wow! Brave guys…

[@stewartgrant9832]

The most complicated restoration out there being brilliantly handled by Typhoon Legacy. The engineering history is fascinating and makes complete sense. Thanks for another great insight.

[@minipup1]

Good stuff. Just like to point out that the Comet failures wasn't due to the square windows, that's a myth. Cracks started from the rivet holes around the airborne radar unit on the roof, This was due to the change from drilling/reaming to punching holes, the punched holes left microcracks, cycllic fatigue did the rest.

[@TyphoonLegacyCoLtd]

Thank you very much for this excellent information, I had not heard of this previously. It is interesting that they started off drilling and switched to punching, do you know why this was done?

[@bazwabat1]

@@TyphoonLegacyCoLtd I believe cost savings.......that backfired didn't it!

[@samrodian919]

@@bazwabat1 the bean counters got their way and the aircraft had a good few crashes and killed many passengers. Thus killing off the Comet. Even after the cause of the structural failure was found and rectified De Havilland knew they were trying to flog dead horses as it were.

[@morgandude2]

Yes indeed. It still amazes me how if something incorrect is repeated for long enough, it becomes 'true' for anyone who doesn't research the subject...which is most people, sadly. People just say what other people say....ad infinitum.

[@clnptrs]

The P-36 (Curtiss Hawk) and P-40s all had retractable tailwheels and were all in service prior to the Typhoon.

[@TyphoonLegacyCoLtd]

Very much appreciated, thank you for the information! ~Ian

[@morgandude2]

The Typhoon was not an easy thing to deal with even when there were squadrons of them. I'm both excited and terrified in equal amounts about all the work being done and just hope you can make this wild monster reliable and safe.🤞🤞

[@Terry_Fritz]

Fascinating! Thanks Ian and Brad.

[@Micestro109]

Message for Ian, the Typhoon was the first Allied production fighter to fly with a bubble canopy, the first Allied fighter was the Miles M.20 way back in 1940. As a very pioneering company Miles' design improvements were incorporated into many competitor's aircraft, Hawkers being one. It could be that Miles was associated with Martin Baker who were just up the road so to speak and were pioneering canopy design at that time in the UK. I must dig out my Miles aircraft book to find out. Of course the Fw 190 lead the way right back in 1939.

[@paulm749]

The Miles M.20 had some interesting design features, the bubble canopy chief among them, but was a bit of an anachronism with its fixed-gear undercarriage. There were very good reasons that it was never approved for production.

[@Micestro109]

@@paulm749 I totally agree but the Air Ministry had to act fast after the fall of France knowing that the Luftwaffe would specifically target aircraft production centres. After Woolston and Filton were both heavily damaged it must have been touch and go as to whether production of the M.20 should be commenced and even with the fixed gear, which was preferred for speed of production and to enable the fitment of 12 machine guns, it's performance was in excess of the Hurricane.

[@michaelandersen4745]

@@paulm749, the Miles M.20 was thought as an “emergency fighter” built primarily from non-strategic materials such as wood in case the production of Spitfires and Hurricanes should become disrupted by bombing. The emergency never arose.

[@TyphoonLegacyCoLtd]

Wonderful note, thank you!

[@andymckee53]

Westland Whirlwind precedes that by 2 years…

[@johnhuntley5591]

Enjoyed every second of this video. Keep them coming

[@mikepocock575]

Iam a huge Hawker fan my favourite fighter is the Hurricane but i like the Typhoon and Tempest also. Great video guys,thankyou.

[@HotelPapa100]

Some variants of the Spit did have a retractable tailwheel. So did the P-51.

[@TyphoonLegacyCoLtd]

I think Brad's comment referred to the timeline of the Typhoon being the first; it is news to me! Do you know if the Spits and Mustangs had them as early as the Typhoon's entrance into service?

[@setchey97]

You had types such as the Curtiss P36 which had a retractable tail wheel too. They entered service in 1938.

[@Mike-kc8rl]

I seem to remember reading that Curtis had retractable tail wheels on the hawk series from 1935 onwards . I also seem to remember in a documentary sometime back that the carbon monoxide problem came from within the cowling from the Napier sabres H 24 cylinder engine!

[@MarcvanExel]

Again very informative, thank you. Just recently ordered some T-shirts, they are very nice!

[@richardandrews6754]

Hi Ian, fascinating as always please can you release more content on the channel

[@johndavey72]

Great content but there were far too many negative comments from Brad about the constant failures . It was a desparate race to beat the opponent at what ever cost so mistakes were bound to occur . Ian's dedication is total .

[@1967250s]

Excellent video, thanks. As to the CO problem, seems to me that the combination of poor firewall sealing and vacuum on the cockpit probably sucked the exhaust into the cockpit through the firewall causing the CO poisoning crashes. Cheers! Would be nice to see the fuselage parts discussed, too, like the aft join section and balances.

[@blackgold9937]

Ian, I haven’t seen a hands on construction video in some time. Love seeing the process of taking a raw piece of aluminium, cutting, pounding, shaping, stretching/compressing, heat treating and installing to make the required structures and components. I know the production of videos is time consuming but are there plans for additional construction videos?

[@TyphoonLegacyCoLtd]

Indeed there are, just taking care of some work that is not good for those types of videos now.

[@canuck-ht3do]

FYI, Republic Aircraft in the US requested a Typhoon canopy from Hawkers, and it was grafted onto a P-47, becoming the first "Bubble-Top Jug" in the process !

[@paulhelman2376]

Bob Coplamd worked with Cam ay Hawker and he was a great designer.

[@grahampeters6609]

Hi from NZ the Spitfire MKVIII was the first to have a retractable tail wheel and the MK VIII evolved on to be the MKXIV with the RR Griffan engine and 5 bladed prop. built in high back and low back variants.

[@TyphoonLegacyCoLtd]

Oh excellent! Was this the first fighter to have the retractable tailwheel, or the firs Spitty Mk?

[@andymckee53]

Westland Whirlwind had a retractable tailwheel in 1938. Way before the Spitty.

[@johnnywarnerperfectroad66]

Nicely fielded on the everything was wonderful romanticised Spitfire notion and the but there were so many issues with the Typhoon notion 👍

[@monostripezebras]

The tiffy is a cool aircraft

[@69waveydavey]

Good lad, keep up the good work, if I see any Sabre engines at the autojumble I'll get them for you.

[@iancarr8682]

Interesting comment from Ian regarding the bubble canopy being first introduced on a Typhoon prototype. I was under the impression that the first use of this style canopy would have been on a Westland Whirlwind.

[@TyphoonLegacyCoLtd]

Based on some feedback on this video I believe you are correct, it was my error. ~Ian

[@bazwabat1]

P51 Mustangs and P47 Thunderbolts had retractable tailwheels as did MK VIII Spitfires and several later marks. I suppose first British fighter/bomber to have a retractable tailwheel since the MK VIII Spitfire came after Typhoon?

[@flypawels]

👍

[@Mell1888]

Westland Whirlwind bubble canopy ????

[@TyphoonLegacyCoLtd]

You are correct good Sir! A few have corrected me on this, thank you! ~Ian

[@johnjephcote7636]

Did the Westland Whirlwind possess a retractable tailwheel?

[@ianallan8005]

Yes, it does

[@andymckee53]

The Westland Whirlwind had both a sliding bubble canopy and retractable tailwheel in 1938. Way before the Typhoon.

[@TyphoonLegacyCoLtd]

Ooooh! Great point, how did I miss this! Thank you Andy! ~Ian

[@johnnyliminal8032]

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[@sblack48]

You said it could fly faster than any other fighter. You probably meant Piston fighter. 262 would leave it in the dust.

[@TyphoonLegacyCoLtd]

Yes it was referring to piston fighters, the 262 was not operational when the Typhoon entered into service.

[@merlin51h84]

Excellent Podcast which explains a great deal more about the aircraft and the project. Noticed you avoided the controversy with the parallel Typhoon project in the UK that refuses to work together with your project. Considering the enormity of the task to put one of these types in the air it's a complete travesty. This attitude will only delay both projects and could ultimately result in neither getting off the ground. And for what, just to have the bragging rights of being the only restoration in the world of an airworthy Typhoon and hence attract more money. Shame on them. Wish you all the best Ian. I truly admire your passion and confidence. BTW, I see that Kermit Weeks has a Napier Sabre that he's getting overhauled for his Tempest V by Richard Grace I think?

[@kurtovesen2975]

just for facts. the typhoon were not faster than the german dornier 335 .

[@markcameron360]

The Dornier 335 did not enter combat operations, so I am not sure it’s a reasonable comparison.

[@TyphoonLegacyCoLtd]

The comments are refer to the time the Typhoon entered service, the 335 didn't fly until '43.

[@businessjetguru1298]

You should focus your podcasts on what is an important project, rather than wasting time with comparisons to the Spitfire. Without doubt, the Spitfire has received a disproportionate amount of attention and credit for its role during World War II. Few historians or subject matter experts doubt the importance of Hawker Hurricanes, Typhoons, Tempests and other designs throughout WWII. part of our task is keeping the public engaged and interested in our history. It really doesn't matter whether one aircraft type gets more credit or attention than another. As aviation enthusiasts, all we can hope for is that we keep historical events and these valuable assets at the front of peoples' minds, along with the sacrifices of those who flew them. I look forward to watching more updates on the Typhoon.

[@geoffreymusson5257]

@@businessjetguru1298 Well said Sir😊

[@TyphoonLegacyCoLtd]

Did you feel the focus of this episode was on aircraft other than the Typhoon?

[@geoffreymusson5257]

@@TyphoonLegacyCoLtd no the main focus was about the Typoon