The Gonz Father: Mark Gonzales & Tony Hawk Shake New York | EP 151| Hawk vs Wolf

The Gonz joins Tony in New York City for a special episode of Hawk Vs Wolf. They discuss touring early in their careers, Tony and Rodney’s live show, mute fast plant untucked, taking photos concussed, Gonz is square, Naming Tricks, Zines and Basquiat, Gummo, Surfing, Shoe tie Broken collarbone arrest, Gonz’s worst injury, Comercial work, Skatas in Paris, catacombs and dinosaur bones, making guac, the moon landing, and the boys experience the great NY earthquake of 2024!
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[@BrianNichols180]

The earthquake was the planet applauding these two skate gods being back together again.

[@nocturnalron69]

Oh shit! I thought you meant here in LA. I was sure I felt one at 5am. They had one in the recording. That’s wild!!

[@k1To12310]

God wanted this lol everyone one wanted this

[@corporalclegg914]

@@k1To12310you bet. the 10yr old me is reeling & musing the 40yr old me to make a poor decision on concrete.

[@alanwright6715]

Good one!

[@largepho2396]

Heath, Rodney and now Gonz!!

[@skater_scott]

Tony, you're officially the winner for getting the gonz into a studio for a substantial interview!

[@wardenerbros]

with the added bonus > NO Jason Ellis, whom of course would have f**ked this up by talking about himself.

[@skater_scott]

@@wardenerbros lol

[@epichandel]

Legit harder than pulling the 900

[@SanDiego_VDubLife]

Agreed

[@SonikJesus]

Agreed!

[@mightydook]

As a 53yr old life long skateboarder This podcast is really really important and appreciated 🤘🏿

[@michaeljohn8905]

51 and still skating. I feel ya Brother . One love to all my skate brothers .this was an epic time. Rep. Long Island NY currently ATL 😂 the skate cap of the south !

[@croatoansounds]

I’m a generation behind you, but yep I second that. Equally important and appreciated here!

[@JahEerie]

Snap. Will be 54 in December - Grew up with these guys posters on my wall

[@ericdetablan7041]

same age here & same meaning to me♥️♥️ 24:55

[@the-keep]

Rolling since 1988. 🤙

[@ethanwilliam9944]

This was awesome and as much as I enjoy the antics of Ellis, I think God had him sit this one out as even he wanted to hear a genuine reminiscing conversation between these two. The 80s were an exciting time for skating and a part of me misses those days.

[@bacterialben]

Yassss what a duo they compliment each other in ways Ellis doesn't

[@dennypet]

Alright, we all know Jason is sensitive; let's leave it alone, or he'll start to feel bad😂. Love you Tony AND Jason!!

[@dennypet]

@@wardenerbros I'm gonna disagree. I think Jason is one of the best interviewers I've ever heard. He can make people feel at ease and start having fun. I bet Tony loves having someone to carry half the load, as well. But, to each their own.

[@typ044]

Always nice to hear the guests talk.

[@just_golds]

Touché

[@ridefreeordie831]

The Gonz gave an interview and there was an earthquake! I love it.

[@chrislewis5989]

Gonz is the essential dude in skateboarding.... he has transcended his craft for decades

[@Blunderbuster]

Multi generational skate hero

[@bondalero0074]

Now that Tony has Gonz on his show if we could only see Natas & Rocco would be icing on the cake! This show will go down in history for sure! The two best skaters “EVER” and old friends makes us ALL smile and think how great the 80’s were!#🛹❤️

[@Circca]

First Rodney, then Heath, now Gonz... Chris Roberts is focusing his twin tail right now

[@TheHSIHP]

Lol

[@the6ig6adwolf]

@eklatist don't you mean punching his cat?

[@GreybeardSkates]

This is probably my favorite so far. I don't know why but Tony walking back in frame after getting a drink or whatever made it better, just a couple of homies chillin.

[@wardenerbros]

simply because we don't have to listen to a podcast interupted 75% with Jason's annoying ADHD trying to match EVERY detail with his perception of his own life.

[@GreybeardSkates]

@wardenerbros yeah, I'm glad its not just me. I try really hard to not be that way, be he really makes it difficult. And at least you can sort of skip through the ads lol

[@DonkeyWalloper]

51 years old turned 15 years old watching this. Makes me want to dismantle the new Thrasher and plaster the pages on my wall while playing my Agent Orange record. I'm sure there are plenty of us feeling the stoke these two heroes invoke. Thank you for this.

[@esoligh]

Dope rhyme! :)

[@jamesc7121]

Well said! DP used to live down the street from me and we'd have our own kid skate gang going everywhere and skating everything listening to DK, Germs, dead milkmen. Great times to be alive.

[@TupDigital]

_Bloodstains, cheap thrills, fast cars, speed kills!_

[@ryani777]

Love agent orange 🍊

[@vitor4130]

Man, just to hear mark gonzales talk was the best !

[@toddtwist]

Cheers for the name check Mark. Glad my old cine footage of that event is out there :)

[@ShanePullen]

I was delighted to hear you getting shouted out too Sean!

[@Delamthedestroyer]

One legend name checking another.

[@johnnypea43]

Wow. Only 5 minutes in and it is literally an earth shaking experience. I'd watch any Gonz interview, but given your shared history, this is the only forum that could deliver the nerd goods for our generation. Thanks for this milestone.

[@michaelrhodes4712]

A Mark Gonzales interview is a profound event which made the Red Sea part and the Earth quake.

[@JK..INFX.D....]

I never saw Tony Laugh so much. Gonz is the most unpredictable man alive!!

[@Mr3andrew3]

53 year old fan boy, watching two other (legend) fan boys fanboying... Thank you for everything! Much love, *A.

[@cornerstorefilms_]

The Gonz taught me being yourself is fun and life’s not that serious

[@abbazabba9984]

Is this the first time Gonz has sat down for a long form interview on video like this? This is the first time I’ve seen this. Amazing.

[@buckodonnghaile4309]

He did one with Tommy Guerrero a few years back (shows called B.S with T.G).

[@From96TilDeath]

@@buckodonnghaile4309That wasn’t really a sit down interview tho, Gonz was going all over the place 😅

[@jimmysalazar4644]

He’s on Grosso’s love letters to skateboarding

[@buckodonnghaile4309]

@@From96TilDeath that's true, I don't think he sat down for more than 20 seconds. Cheers

[@barclaydonaldson8863]

Gonz....is so authentic, disguised, artsy...brilliant....raw, real....and pure... Never to be duplicated... a breath of fresh air for like 4 decades

[@georgedeanjnr]

Rodney and Gonz, the hawk is pulling all the legendary hermits out

[@MichaelGilpin-rq2mo]

Now they need to get Neil Blender.

[@From96TilDeath]

@@MichaelGilpin-rq2moBlender probably wouldn’t do one 🤷‍♂️ Lance said that Neil thinks stuff like that’s kind of lame

[@BaNaNaHJaRTa]

Koston and Kirchart too!

[@MichaelGilpin-rq2mo]

@@From96TilDeath he's kind of right.

[@josiahamaze]

Kirchart and Koston was on already

[@k1To12310]

what was freaky was that i was looking for interviews or podcasts of mark gonzales all day today, just watching a thing here or there, not really able to find anything. but seeing this notification made my whole year, this might be the first full interview of this wonderful man. hes right up there with rodney mullen, and i thank yall tony hawk and jason ellis for showing the greater public this much needed icon.

[@dubccoverseer]

i wish he'd get on the nine club. but sounds like he's not out west much

[@k1To12310]

@@dubccoverseerbut he be down to do it. He said he wanted to try Tony’s ramp lol that dude the gonz is still going at it

[@M6A6T6T]

I did the same thing last week!

[@kerryogrady3637]

It's MENTAL there's no official Mark Gonzales documentary,is there even a Loveletters episode?

[@BeachBumsk8]

Yes, I’m psyched for this one!! Next up Natas

[@StayBolts]

I will cry haha

[@BeachBumsk8]

@@StayBolts Tony is a god and he can pull it off

[@sfoyogi8979]

Gonz getting surfing lessons is the most mindblowing discovery in my life.

[@firstlast4516]

Gonz has a whole different kind of memory haha This is amazing already at 8 minutes in and now there's an earthquake!

[@ShogunateDaimyo]

Are you serious?! First modern Gonz interview..? Been waiting a long time. So happy to see him and hear his stories.

[@princequestly2218]

Nerding out to these two legends conversing has made my day.

[@diggindan1498]

Tony laughing at everything GONZ says😂 Rad interview

[@LLusion]

51:08 the skate world needed this moment. wow. these legends need to do more shows together

[@sysop007]

Natas when..? 🤔 Awesome seeing the Gonz.. ❤️👏🏻

[@seanmckelvey6618]

Gonz is the best, always a crack up😂 So glad you finally got him on the show.

[@christophersawyer253]

“Do you like food?” “Yeah I like food…food is good”

[@SabrinaMorris]

What a mesmerizing interview! Gonz is like Picasso, though I'm not sure if he's more the painter or the paintings. The conversation moves like his skating-wholly unique, disjointed, and seamless at the same time. He is one of the most versatile skaters we have, and thank goodness we have him. The random shared and complementary memories bestow laughs and nostalgia on us. Thank you for this.

[@BigSirZebras]

I literally wished for this 5 hours ago. I just got done watching a Hawk vs Wolf and I knew everyone wants Gonz on their podcast and I thought to myself, "if anybody can get Gonz it would be Tony". Then I thought, it will probably happen one day. Holy Shit! this is amazing!

[@unseenforcs]

Tony does seem to have special powers. I have never really seen anyone get Blender for a real interview and Tony got him to sit for a film.

[@jordanstout1186]

This is one of the most amazing thing to happen in the skateboarding world in a long time. It was one of those things that just had happen. I can’t even express how thankful I am to have gotten to witness this happen. Thank you Gonz and Tony, this was truly needed.

[@truhhhhhhhokIII3]

Wow the nine club is going to be so jealous! You gotta hook them up with his number or something lol

[@unseenforcs]

Aint gonna happen. Nine club is amazing but they would be fawning at him the entire time and everyone would feel weird and it would just be a bumout. Sadly theres just some people that are never going to sit in that room, but there are other opportunities.

[@gerardogarcia3060]

Maybe they could have interviewed him, but Tony flew to New York and got it Tom Penny you are next one XD

[@buck6604]

This is off the charts epic. Thank you Tony for prying such an intimate dialogue with Mark.

[@jspaulding4106]

It was on the charts. 4.8 on the Richter scale from what I can find. Which is impressive for a podcast interview. I mean, it did shake the building.

[@skyfish1]

"Tight trucks loose bolts..." ~Gonz~☆♤☆♤

[@MatthewZakszewski-vb9fg]

How the hell did I miss this!? Anyway, I'm glad I noticed it. Mark G is the OG, baby!

[@forrestgladding8423]

Mark did a demo in my hometown in the 80s and an apartment complex across the street had drained their pool day before and entire demo went and mobbed the pool, cops called and i was forever hooked on skateboarding after that day, thanks Mark.

[@alanwardley9901]

The laughter in this talk between old friends is infectious! Bravo 👏

[@djdef5521]

This was truly Legendary!! I can listen to Gonz & Tony talk about OG stories & random ish for hours. Can we please get a part 2 with Gonz, Rodney, Neil, Natas, & of course Tony all in the same room, that would be historical!!!!

[@croatoansounds]

Gonz is such a legend

[@krisnarefaagusta16]

And Tony Hawk as well, because he's a grab trick maestro in all video games for many years, as published by Activision.

[@croatoansounds]

@@krisnarefaagusta16 of course, Hawk is indeed also legend status. I just don’t see many Gonz interviews, he’s kind of mysterious and pops up randomly over the years haha. So it was nice to hear him talk for an hour

[@Okonomiyaking]

They found Animal Chin!

[@Torsav]

Late to the party, but this is one of the best episodes. There's no one else like him, and I doubt there ever will be. He's the embodiment of self-expression which is so pivotal to skateboarding.

[@jimkozminski7693]

Gonz is definitely skateboard Yoda. And he perfectly describes art

[@voi907]

Don't even need to hear it. Thank you. This is awesome

[@sidezskateshop1556]

Happy Birthday Tony! 🥳🤙🏻🎂

[@daxkenny3744]

I've never seen Tony more engaged in a guest ever... Birdhouse or Krooked was never brought up which is the reason these two are forever amazing

[@Stug138]

THIS IS GOING TO BE EPIC 🛹🛹🛹

[@gorelordzskate-racing-videos]

I'm still in shock that this really happened. Thank you to both of you for everything, and Rodney as well. I'm 25 years in so far and I won't stop until I can't walk.

[@bc5327]

Tony specifically was so excited Mark is there with him it’s just great, awesome stories too. Love the laughs, the Gonz is hilarious, just as a person.

[@jeremylasley1402]

Only Tony could pull off this interview with the Gonz. Thank you!

[@krisnarefaagusta16]

En fuego!

[@praktiz7490]

this was not an interview, this was a conversation between two legends.

[@SidewaysIsDead]

Got into skating via THPS4, and decided not to quit after seeing Gonz's part in Krooked Kronicles. Legendary stuff right here!

[@dubeluco]

Gonz and Tony = earthquake 🔥

[@SteveSelvidge]

There is so much 80s skate video humor just oozing out of this. 😅

[@michaeljohn8905]

This was absolutely hands down the best one ever! You guys get mucho respecto from me I watched a learned from you guys coming up as a grom. I listened to this whole cast and it epic. Thanks to 2 legends that are super down to earth. Love these story’s. Thanks Tony ,Thanks Mark Gonzo Gonzales ! Long Island NY !

[@JR-bw3tr]

Mark Gonzalez the best to ever do it my favorite skater of all time

[@ShredzShop]

Loved every second of this

[@getthefedout]

The Gonz is my GOAT. Had 13 of his boards. I've been waiting for this interview. He never disappoints. Legend!

[@deadbeat-vc9kg]

Oh my Gonz, this is so killer. The man, the myth, the legend. I've waited so long for this day. Thank you Tony. Once again, the Birdman delivers. When I think about it, that's more like a stork than a hawk. Life is so confusing sometimes.

[@festersha]

That was so sick! Gonz is the best and it’s so awesome to listen to these two old friends shoot the shit. You can really tell how much respect they have for each other. Such a good episode

[@dantedorado2609]

The pod was over an hour long but only felt like a few mins! To have Mark Gonzales on Hawk vs Wolf, or rather 'Hawk' today, was a real treat. Thanks so much to you both for all the skate history and funny anecdotes 🤩

[@benjaminschweizer8764]

His Phelps impression made my year

[@FaultySporkMa]

I asked for a Gonz and/or Steve Steadham interview like 3 weeks ago & you guys delivered! THANK YOU! Now we need that Steadham interview and life is complete.

[@zak-a-roo264]

Yes, Steadham interview would be gold, too!!!!

[@krs1811]

@@zak-a-roo264 As would, Blender, Natas, Barbee and Mike V.

[@marcusprince3999]

Steadham, YES!!! BLENDER, YES!!!!! Maybe they should get Duane on?😅

[@buckodonnghaile4309]

​@krs1811 blender would be great, but he doesn't seem to have any interest discussing the past sadly.

[@michaelcardoso286]

I am going to take in every minute of this, Mark skated my ramp back in the day. A lifelong memory.

[@galen_bradwarden]

Of course the Earth could only shake and tremble as these two people shared the same spacetime location. Two great dudes that go great together. Mark is just such a lovely human being. No artifice, no conceit, no dishonesty, no disdain for anyone or anything, just an earnest, sincere, humble soul. To see both Tony and Gonz appreciating each other's abilities and laughing like only old friends can is to know what contentment really is. You really get the feeling that hanging out with Gonz would make you feel loads better anytime or anywhere. One of the most beautiful moments was when Tony asked him what his favorite thing to do at a contest/skate event was and Gonz just guilelessly answers "I just loved being part of the scene." Somebody who just deeply enjoys and appreciates being with and around other skaters skating for the pure love and sheer fun of it. What a wonderful way to start the week.

[@MichaelSilverMedia]

Back and forth flow between these two is unmatched

[@steffe689]

Second time watching, easily my favorite episode now. Mark and Tony are great together.

[@jonlockley]

Jeff Phillips and Mark were my inspirations for getting into skating. We were watching skate videos on VHS tape, Jeff at Mt. Trashmore and then Mark at Oceanside. We didn't really have any ramps where we lived, and I'm not too fond of heights, so I gravatated more to street skating. Oh, the part about Tony's dad telling Mark to settle down and win one of the contests, I felt the same about Mark. I think he won that contest in Oceanside so easily, after that, he became a jokester at contests, playing around and trying really hard stuff while other skaters just played it safe and won. I always wanted him to win more, too.

[@kerryogrady3637]

It's mental to see how far these two guys have come.I started skating in September 1987,brought a blue Caballero Steet/Indy159s/Crossbones95a and the Transworld w/lance Mountain interview and the Thrasher with Cab on the cover in the bones sweatpants.Even back then these two were arguably the biggest names in skating,however,skating was a proper underground subculture and it was fuckin awesome,but to witness the journey Tony&Gonz have undertaken from then to now is phenomenal,they're literal cultural icons and it's a beatiful thing to see because they've fuckin earnt it,what they've both acheived is phenomenal,nice one lads.

[@nephatiah]

The Gonz 🔥🔥🔥🔥💯💪💙

[@akatheNIKL]

that earthquake absolutly happend because of the power of two legends combined in one room, this was so entertaining should have been longer like all the hawk wolf (make it 3hrs like nine club) and i really wished jason would have been there...... much love

[@davegambill824]

The NYC show with Rodney was awesome. Also to sit in the crowd and see who all showed up. Watching Tony and Gonz laughing changed the rainy day here for me. Thank you!

[@just_golds]

What an awesome guest.Bravo Gonz

[@hover_roller_balance_boards]

Interview was classic. He pushes me haha rips up a check too funny. Rem his quote from tws saying questions and answers are a form of fighting. The guy has been winging it since day 1 in his own world of Gonz

[@buckodonnghaile4309]

Gonz's memory is photographic. Incredible.

[@MacChuck]

Never in a million years would i thought The Gonz would be in a podcast, outstanding episode! Much love to Mark and Hawk vs Wolf:- D

[@finalcuthugo]

I mean he does KZbin, doesn’t seem that far fetched to me. He makes lots of fun content.

[@nocturnalron69]

Gonz: Switch Method Grab off the mini ramp in Savanna Slamma.

[@Jacam781]

YES! Or, at the time, we called it 'fakie'. Another contest where Frank Hawk's advice would've probably seen him place higher.

[@nocturnalron69]

@@Jacam781 or it was called “what was that?”

[@nocturnalron69]

@@Jacam781 the high point for me from that Savanna contest was Mike Vs fake to tail on the2 foot box.

[@user-jd7sh2bh2g]

You could probably do five more of these and not have a dull moment. I was really waiting for a Gonz interview and this was perfect. THANK YOU.

[@imnotarob0t1984]

whoa, you got Gonz to do an interview?! that's the most legendary thing you've ever done!

[@corporalclegg914]

49:11 I’ve never seen Hawk crack so uninhibitedly. thanks, Gonz! 51:07 our heroes/legendary pros are even better pals this duo was incredible! Ellis missed out for sure, but Gonz & Hawk together (and uninterrupted) was the way to go here. we’re seeing the forefathers of modern skating cut up & reminisce; the 10 yr old me is reeling & giving the >40 yr old me poor advice on how well I could pull a lofty Judo Air in my hangar off of a launch ramp.

[@Mr.Z27]

So unbelievably grateful to finally get a GONZ interview on podcast form. This is pure gold❤

[@michaelteasdale2919]

OMFG you got him!!! ❤

[@mstunameow]

Gonz is so weird and so great and I love that Tony had to be NYC to get him on the show and laughs through like 90% of the interview.

[@masonmcconnell9375]

This was such a treat and man so funny tony just laughing with Gonz you can tell they are good friends

[@AJOLDMUSI]

I listened to this in my car and my cars subs started doing a freaky low rumbling and i looked around trying to figure out if i was having some kind of enviromental disaster scenerio. Then mark was like hold on, we got an earthquake" I like these speakers

[@inkfingers]

Such a great conversation. Gonz is like the best, surreal skateboard dream come to life. These stories and moments are priceless-thanks for sharing them.

[@blandoworthlessness]

That was awesome to see these two together!

[@CRASSsk8s]

Thank-you, Mark -&- Thank-you, Tony!!🛹

[@kilosoul236]

The Gonz and rodney are tied for best guest ever.

[@UnknownGaming..]

There is no way. The Gonz!! Amazing

[@user-fn4fo7db6x]

Oh geez how do you follow an episode like that! Thanks you two for decades of and continued radness!!!

[@Gowagon]

It was truly amazing as a kid to come across the Vision Gonz board being sold at a local shop during my vacation in Portugal. Later in life, seeing the Gonz riding his bike in the city was a wild experience that I'll never forget.😁

[@julienbaut5784]

Thanks for this great podcast ! So long that we were waiting for Mark Gonzales … Two absolute Legends sharing their memories together, that was epic ! Unfortunately, that was too short ….

[@jeffersonpekar6645]

On the pioneering of larger noses on boards, Mark is correct on kinda referring to Blender. My brother has one of Neil's used (Snake and Lattice) boards from 1984, that was thrown in the trash at Del Mar by Neil because it delaminated big time on the tail. The board has 3 different hole patterns on the front truck area (hand-drilled by Neil) in effort to make the nose larger back in 1984. My brother showed the deck to Neil in 2005, at an art show in San Diego and his response was hilarious. He just made a hmmmmff noise. He said he remembered the board, but gave no other verbal information or history. My brother and I were laughing and tripping at the same time because while Neil was holding and looking at the board, he nonchalantly threw it on the ground, under his feet, in the dirt and rocks, to see how it felt. To us it is basically a museum piece, but to Neil it was just an old crappy board.

[@Backlashed]

Great interview, I've never heard Tony laugh so much, love it! Also love that the clips and photos mentioned are added in.

[@havitharry]

Epic! the Gonz is so entertaining and funny, two absolute legends!!!

[@rolling4life-media-house.90]

2 gods of sk8ing making more golden sk8 history .. epic GONZ pod !

[@goldleader6169]

this made really made my day ... had a shit day and came home to this ...what a gift ! thanks Tony and Mark so cool!

[@dneck]

having Gonz on caused seismic activity

[@elayejofis3829]

I Was Going Through Tough Times And This Video Came Up And Now I’m Better. Praise Jesus! Stay Strong Y’all!