Hay Grapple Accumulator Build Part 5

[@PAFarms]

Awesome job! Over the summer I looked at a used bale accumulator set up. DHL farms brought up a good point, with a thrower wagon, even though it’s a mess of hay, at least it’s on wheels already if you start to get a rain shower. Working by myself, it made a lot of sense to stay the way I’m doing it.

[@DennysCountryLife]

Thanks you. I agree with that too. If I happen to have a baler with a thrower, I would be investing my money in wagons. Problem is finding a thrower for my Massey 128 baler, then buying wagons and having a place to store them. For the space and budget I have, this is my best option. Thanks for watching man!

[@PAFarms]

Denny's Country Life yea storing wagons is a pain. I had a Massey 12 Baler that had a thrower at one time. I didn’t see too many like that.

[@Jim-McKechnie]

We used to stack our bales with a very similar system many years ago “Flat 8” was very common bale sledge behind the baler accumulated them in 8s , and our grapple was on a tiny new Holland L775 skid steer and we would stack them in the field and lift them with self loading trailer...

[@Jim-McKechnie]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/eYbZh2Swfthjn5Y your next project! Very impressed with your fabrication skills

[@DennysCountryLife]

That's a pretty slick setup they have there! I like that. I'f I had a barn we could store hay on ground level, I would be working on it right now! lol. Thanks for sharing!

[@howardyounger5456]

you done a great job on that Denny. there is always something that people seem to over look on a project. i think i would move them out more then you said a little though. my dad used a 8 bale acumulater behind his baler. it worked great. we would haul all of are hay. so we could take it back out of the stack. it was slower then a stacker wagon but he had 2 sons to help.

[@DennysCountryLife]

Thanks Howard! I think I've decided on 19.75" spacings. I was thinking 19.25, but you're probably right. That would make it a nice even 1" spacer, which is material have on hand too. A stack wagon would be awesome, it's just something I'm not setup for though. There's a nice on for sale not too far from me too. Thanks again!

[@howardyounger5456]

for you a accumulater would be best. there are a lot of them out there. were you need to stack inside the stacker is not best. i really like the hooks you got also. if the bales end up a little loose they look like they would hold the bales better.your tool looks like it is built good if you get a accumulater later.

[@DennysCountryLife]

Yeah, we'll see how this goes. If I need to build or buy an accumulator down the road, well than that's what I'll have to do. Hopefully this works out good though

[@GerraldFarms]

Looks good. Just a little adjustment she be good as a bought one. Plus you saved a lot. Every time you us it you’ll feel good because you built it.👍🏻

[@DennysCountryLife]

Thanks! It's going to take some gettin use to, but once I get down it'll be a real pleasure. And yes, I saved about $5k!

[@crslyrn]

Awesome build overall. Especially considering you've never built one before. Just looks like some adjusting to be done before paint then off to the field. Of course, now you'll have to post a finished product video for us, part 6. Stay safe.

[@crslyrn]

So far, I view most engineers as someone with just a piece of paper that says their an engineer. In most cases, a person with years of experience can be worth a whole lot more than any piece of paper that says you're an engineer. That's just my opinion, right or wrong. LOL

[@farmgrowncountrystrong]

Now that is a neat build! Another thing you could do is add beet juice for fluid to the rear tires for some extra weight.

[@DennysCountryLife]

Unfortunately I have calcium in the tires.. I'd love to swap it out for beet juice. Being that this isn't an ag tractor, it's a little lighter than say the Kubota M series, so it's hard to find them without loaded tires. Thanks for watching man!

[@davdhynes3518]

After realizing how dum my comment was not knowing it was an accumulator also, I went to Bagwell farms video about 3 minutes on maxilator accumagraple. In that video he explains how after loading hay to haul down the road the divider spaces have to be tightened up between the bales to make the load road worthy. When arriving to unload since the hay spaces have been tightened up, the grapple won't fit in with the divider in and the dividers need to be taken out then the grapples don't line up right on the bales. He has two grapples to solve this problem, I don't really know what the answers is. I wonder if a flipper, diverter or something similiar out front would solve this problem, possibly even a hydraulic side squeeze. You might not need it now but could be a handy feature in the future. Very nice and well thought out job, if you were ever to have a fabricating business you would never be hurting for work.

[@DennysCountryLife]

Thanks David! I like Bagwell Farms's channel, watch it all the time. He has a really good review on his Maxilators. His video is what made me make the decision to narrow up the bale channels. When I measured the Maxilators bale channels, they gave each bale about 20 inches, but people have problems with loose stacks, so I made mine 18-3/4". I think 19.25 might be the magic number. We'll see. Unfortunately I don't have a place to store hay on ground level where I could use a grapple to down-stack, so this should work great for getting the bales on the trailer. We'll be stuck hand unloading for a long time probably. Have a great day, and thanks for watching!

[@michiganfarming1955]

Awesome build!!! I think widen it a whisker and maybe remove them center dividers might make it easier. But hey ya did good!!

[@DennysCountryLife]

If I end up using it as a grapple only, you bet those dividers are coming off! I appreciate you watching man, have a good one!

[@timerfarms113]

Looks just like a maxalator. Nice job

[@DennysCountryLife]

Thanks, hopefully it performs as good as a Maxilator! Thanks for watching!

[@rollingridgeacres]

Nice build you did there. I'm not going to lie, I might be tempted to build one of these myself. Looks like it will work well once you widen it.

[@DennysCountryLife]

It wasn't a very difficult build, just time consuming. If this is something you've considered for hay handling but didn't want to cough up $6k, building your own is the way to go. I'm a little over $900 into it, and don't regret a penny. Thanks for watching, I appreciate it!

[@rollingridgeacres]

Denny's Country Life That sounds a lot better than 6K. Used accumulators are not cheap either.

[@DennysCountryLife]

No, they're not cheap either. I don't see many around here, but when I do they are in the 3-5k range. Me being a one man operation and not rich, this seemed like the best option.

[@MultiFarmguy]

Series very helpful! Thank you!

[@kennymysak2079]

Better to find all the oops and fix it before the hay season. Keep up the great video's

[@DennysCountryLife]

That's exactly right! Thanks for watching man!

[@edgarvaldez7374]

well done pls can you sayme where you buy the hooks

[@SoybeanFarmer3300]

the needed dimension change should be rather simple to accomplish. I have confidence you'll resolved the issue. great series and a good build. thanks for sharing.

[@DennysCountryLife]

It'll take no time to remedy. As always, thanks for watching Soybean Farmer! Have a great day

[@rogersears4969]

Great build!! Have you given any thought to selling kits or plans? Thanks

[@farmboy30117]

Looks professional to me! Where did you get the hooks from?

[@DennysCountryLife]

Thanks man! I got them from Agri Supply.I think they were $8-ish each.

[@LVFFarmVlogs]

Looks good, after you widen it a bit, it should work great! Good work!

[@DennysCountryLife]

Thanks for all your comments, and sticking through the whole series. I appreciate it!

[@oldschooltractors3674]

What measure did you take for the distance that the bales slide in nicely? Between the edge sheet and the wide sheet for the width. What bale width and how much play has the bale in the width

[@DennysCountryLife]

I ended up with a chamber width of 19.5 for each chute. It's worked great. This is assuming you have a 14x18 2 string baler.

[@oldschooltractors3674]

@@DennysCountryLife I have a hesston mf press SB 137 inline baler, would you have any plans or drawings you would give me?that would be super cool

[@DennysCountryLife]

It wouldn't hut to go 19.75 or 20" if your baler makes odd shaped bales.

[@markwitt3408]

Hi, you mwntion bleeding the new third function circuit to get it to work. Im having a similar problem I think. Howd you bleed it? Crack a fitting?

[@DennysCountryLife]

I think what my problem was, was the quick coupler on one of the hoses wasn't in all the way. Any air in the system should burp it's way out after a few cycles.

[@roysmyth4284]

Hey Denny, recently found your channel and love the content. Will hope to build something similar over the winter coming. Can you help me get it clear in my head about the shafts and the delrin bearings, have you put square tube in to the round cut out delrin?

[@DennysCountryLife]

Hey thanks for watching Roy! Square tube works just fine in round holes. It's done all the time. When you bore you holes just make sure the tolerance is tight. I bought a forstner bit that's the identical size of the tube corner to corner. I originally used 1/4" delrin, I have since replaced it with half inch. Hope this helps!

[@roysmyth4284]

@@DennysCountryLife perfect, and if I was to use round bar as the shafts could you forsee any issues? Did you use the square tube mainly to mount the hooks onto it with the u brackets?

[@DennysCountryLife]

@@roysmyth4284 Yeah the hooks are designed to mount on square tube. With the amount of force applied to the hooks I wouldn't recommend using round tube. Your hook actuator linkage also works best with square tube. I suppose you could use shaft collars and weld the flat bar to them, but I've seen shaft collars slip, even when cranked down pretty good.

[@roysmyth4284]

@@DennysCountryLife ok that makes sense. I can source weld on hooks here that would mount to the tube nicely and the delrin end bearings would work fine to. IL look more into the mount for the actuator onto round. Thanks again for the help.

[@eufalosobrecenas8133]

What´s the size of the square tubing you used to hold the hooks

[@DennysCountryLife]

I think it's 1.5 x 3". Not for any specific reason. I was going to use 2x4, but found this size for cheap with a thicker wall.

[@eufalosobrecenas8133]

do you also happen to have any sort of technical specifications for the hooks ?@@DennysCountryLife

[@davdhynes3518]

Why do you need both side and any dividers. I thought I saw a bale loader they pushed the hay against one side and the back and then sent grapples in. Without side and dividers it would allow for odd sized bales.

[@DennysCountryLife]

The reason I have the dividers is because this isn't just a grapple. It's a Accumulator/grapple combination. First you accumulate the bales as you drive through the field, then you grab them. It eliminates the need to have an accumulator behind the baler.

[@WyattLarsen]

What size pieces of Delrin did you get? I know you said 1/2" thick, but is it 3.5" by 3.5" or 3" by 3"?

[@DennysCountryLife]

I bought a 12x24" sheet of it and cut it into 2-7/8 wide pieces x 3-3/4 long. It fits perfectly inside the web on the C-channel.

[@shaneyarkosky1880]

I want to build one just dont no where to start

[@DennysCountryLife]

If you watch the whole build series you'll get a good idea. There's a lot to do and think about, but you just have to dive in and do it! I went into this with a basic design and dimensions that were pretty much just in my head, so you don't need to have cad drawings and an engineering degree to build something that will work great for a long time. Thanks for watching Shane!

[@marchindy]

It looks awesome sir. Do you already have a accumulator or are you going to fab one up too. I dont remember if you mentioned it in any of the other videos. This ended up being one of the better builds I've seen in a long time...well done.

[@DennysCountryLife]

marchindy Thank you very much, that's a huge compliment! It's been a fun build. This is actually a combination of both grapple and accumulator. If you get a chance, look up the Maxilator accumagrapple. That's what this is modeled after. Thanks for watching bud, and stay tuned for the finished product part 6. Take care