RV COMPARISON! Cougar vs White Hawk Travel Trailers with Josh the RV Nerd

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Josh the RV Nerd at Bish's RV

Josh the RV Nerd at Bish's RV

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The Keystone Cougar and Jayco White Hawk haven't historically been considered comparable products. But, after some recent updates I came to realize they've really come to find themselves head-to-head in nearly the exact same market segment.
They accomplish many of the same goals, but often in extremely different ways. And of course each has their unique little quirks and features found lacking in the other.
This video comparing these two premium "Ultralite Plus" travel trailers here at Haylett RV is quite long. But if you're serious about making a purchase of one or the other, then you'll no doubt appreciate Josh the RV Nerd's in-depth look at these two stellar brands!!
Here are some links to the two specific RVs used as a reference during this video:
* Cougar 34TSB • 2021 Cougar 34TSB Trip...
* White Hawk 29BH • Carpetless & Hot/Cold ...
They're drastically different models. I wasn't worried about similar floor plans since we're discussing general brand differences
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@donnalundy5875
@donnalundy5875 3 жыл бұрын
You are the only one helping with all the info and your personality is perfect
@ourvlife1
@ourvlife1 3 жыл бұрын
Josh, I’ve said it many times. You are the master of RV reviews. Now that you are doing the comparisons has brought it to a whole new level. The time and energy you put into everyone of your videos is phenomenal!!! We can’t thank you enough.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
TY. Glad these have been so well received because holy cow... they EAT UP MY TIME lol
@phildonnakilmer5109
@phildonnakilmer5109 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah! What he said😉
@applejacks971
@applejacks971 3 жыл бұрын
Last week "I was told my 15 minutes are too long. Are my vid's too long??" This Week "Here's a 43 minute video. Enjoy!" Troll Level Master Achieved. Seriously though, excellent videos! 20 min's 40 min's, doesn't matter. The time and $$ these save me from making phone calls and physically visiting local dealer after dealer is immeasurable. Very much appreciated!! You teach so much important info. Priceless!!!
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
HAHAHA -- not intentional. I have received a lot of people this year telling me "your vids are too long man" I really personally feel like a SERIOUS buyer would want all the extra info we provide And when I asked I got 100% confirmation of that from our Haylett Nation Viewers & our very vocal RV Nerd Herd :)
@SamuelJMartinIII
@SamuelJMartinIII 3 жыл бұрын
@@JoshtheRVNerd // I’m only 5’3” & I know 1st hand short isn’t appreciated = no love given even though it’s considered cute 😔😞
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
@@SamuelJMartinIII You're not short. *You're gravity friendly.*
@tinabrinson3385
@tinabrinson3385 3 жыл бұрын
@@JoshtheRVNerd do not change your videos! There are a lot of us out here who are learning a great deal from them. And for us about to enter in RV full-time and a newbie, your videos are priceless!
@carolluttrell8876
@carolluttrell8876 2 жыл бұрын
Longer simply means more valuable info and smarter decisions for we consumers!! Ty Josh for your commitment!! You are truly appreciated
@rachelshedd6142
@rachelshedd6142 2 жыл бұрын
I am looking to live full time in a travel trailer and in my research I had narrowed it down to either a Jayco Whitehawk or a Keystone Cougar and as if by fate, I stumbled on to this video! This was SUPER helpful to me. The details that you've put into this video are the details that I have been looking for to help me in my search. Awesome! Thank you
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 2 жыл бұрын
The video is SLIGHTLY dated now but still pretty much on point. Which of the two would you choose if you had to say one or the other?
@rachelshedd6142
@rachelshedd6142 2 жыл бұрын
@@JoshtheRVNerd I prefer the bedroom of the Whitehawk but overall like the feel a little better of the Cougar. Im going to look at some today! Unfortunately not your place, I live in NC.
@chesshead3943
@chesshead3943 Жыл бұрын
@@rachelshedd6142 what did you choose?
@larryhoover7389
@larryhoover7389 Ай бұрын
I prefer the bedroom in the Cougar. Cougar all the way for me. Josh Thanks for your videos. You are the quintessential RV crazy man. Good job!
@bradharber5750
@bradharber5750 2 жыл бұрын
I know that this was put out awhile ago but, ou've gone and done it again. Every time I think I've narrowed my choices down, you show another great RV.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 2 жыл бұрын
TY Brad :) Which of the two brands speaks to you a little more
@bradharber5750
@bradharber5750 2 жыл бұрын
@@JoshtheRVNerd, originally I was strongly considering a Lance or a Jayco, probably still am but haven't been in a Cougar yet. We'll probably be buying one that's a couple of years old with little use to let someone else have that big initial depreciation hit. Thanks for your informative honest reviews, much appreciated even if it makes it harder to choose :)
@chesshead3943
@chesshead3943 Жыл бұрын
@@JoshtheRVNerd I love the looks of the Cougar 25RDS and Cougar 33RLI !!!
@bobblashe5954
@bobblashe5954 Жыл бұрын
Josh: This is a GREAT way to compare two very good brands of RV's from different manufactures or divisions of the same company. With literally hundreds of very similar looking towable campers to choose from, a non-professional full time shopper does not have a chance to make the correct decision for their particular situation, wants and needs! This then, really is very helpful. I would like to suggest one additional piece of information that would make the review process complete. In the "Show More" Section, add a Link to a document that lists the differences and similarities in two columns. No detail. Just the List of Items. The details can be found at a document listed timestamp of the associated video! Now this will take considerable time to accurately cross-link the two sources of information. And we, your Subscribers, all know and love you as the guy in front of the camera! This extra step cannot reduce your on-camera time and variety! Therefore, this documentation must be handled by one of your secretarial staff! Keep them coming buddy!🎯
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
Solid idea. Ty
@bryceyork
@bryceyork 3 жыл бұрын
‘Bob Seagar like rock’...another one of your great one liners 😂👍🏻
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
STRONG AGAINST THE WINDDDDDD
@jwilcox4726
@jwilcox4726 2 жыл бұрын
Just bought a Jayco Eagle HT were pending since bought on a saturday. I'm so excited, had one when young traveled in the Good Sam's club, always parked where hook-ups in a pull-through space. No backing up when new at this, my husband was a truck driver so use pull-throughs request when making a reservation or get a camper that has a nice big one an older man, more experience and control.
@timstretton3174
@timstretton3174 3 жыл бұрын
Josh this a great video. I’ve never seen a dealership do a comparison this informative. Def not bashing either manufacturers but showing differences. Just because it’s different doesn’t mean it’s wrong.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
Tim, you definitely "Get it" for lack of a better way to say it. Appreciate all the viewership for all this time. Stay tuned -- more to come!!
@mariazaccardi61
@mariazaccardi61 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for all the info. I come to your channel first, for information on all RV's. Please keep it coming, while we may not all be able to purchase from you, you provide information that I wish all other dealers were as diligent in sharing. It gives a consumer confidence that you are not just trying to "make a sale" but truly educate your customer. BTW I really enjoyed the tour of the Coachmen RV factory. Thanks again.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
TY Maria! Remember we don't care where you go or who you see -- it doesn't matter where you get your appetite.. just so long as you come home for dinner LOL :)
@mementomori887
@mementomori887 3 жыл бұрын
The frozen water story. 2019 29BHS, heated water hose, heat wrapped water connection into the ground and it was covered. The heated water hose does not allow the cover outside on the camper to close. Left the water on to drip but only cold not hot. The plastic connectors in the panel froze for 4 days. No leaks, no broken fittings. I was using a 30lb tank of fuel every 2 days heating at 70 it was so cold. I had a line froze this year before I winterized and no issues again.
@rogereide
@rogereide 3 жыл бұрын
Great job. After watching this I am happy with my choice of WhiteHawk.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think either is wrong. I am impressed however with how much White Hawk has stepped up in the past few seasons
@Jon_AdventureHound
@Jon_AdventureHound 3 жыл бұрын
You’re doing great, very helpful. Keep up the good work. My wife and I might even drive from the west coast to buy an RV from you.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
TY Jon! Plenty have done it before you :)
@miguellombana9847
@miguellombana9847 3 жыл бұрын
If we could only take the best of both of these rigs and meld them together for the ultimate perfect rig!
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
Then folks would say "it costs too much" lol That's the trick -- when you only have $X to play with it's a game of picking and choosing which features you think will provide the most attraction from a prospective buyer
@originalnightshade4582
@originalnightshade4582 3 жыл бұрын
FANTABULOUS!! I have been researching for NINE months, & yours is one of THEE BEST RV research centers & video's on KZbin CERTAINLY the most entertaining I've ever found-I live in Illinois & am planning to go fulltime Nomad. Thank you for your efforts you gave cured my information overkill!
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, thank you!
@missmindersue
@missmindersue 3 жыл бұрын
He’s Great at his job, I like him a lot 😉
@andrespencer168
@andrespencer168 3 жыл бұрын
Josh - I always look to your videos for tremendous insight, details and common sense. It is because of your videos that I'm able to learn and "zero" in on the unit(s) that are best suited for our family! Love them and keep them coming!
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
Ty Andre :)
@kimberlybarnett2889
@kimberlybarnett2889 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you from West GA! I've been researching rvs and your videos are by far some of the most informative!
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thank you!
@deseda1276
@deseda1276 Жыл бұрын
Very informative 👏 👌. We had our search narrowed down to these two. Thank you so much for your time!
@MtnmanMtnman
@MtnmanMtnman 3 жыл бұрын
Love the un-edited, occasional tongue tied, real world way you do your videos. Keep up the good work.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
:) I try to be genuine and fair. I'm a chubby dad bod guy who is losing most of his hair and getting grays where I still have it left. I'm ok with the skin I'm in. This is me. Thanks for hanging out :)
@TerriCogan
@TerriCogan 3 жыл бұрын
I think you do a great job. And along with the laughs 😎, I appreciate the time you take to share all the information with us. Thank you. 😊
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
Always our pleasure! Thx for tuning into another LONG video :)
@bass3587
@bass3587 Жыл бұрын
2 Years later and I still found something I didn't know before. Thanks Josh.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
Man I still learn new stuff every day
@bobbelcher1826
@bobbelcher1826 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation. Now I know which two types of Trailers I would love to purchase.
@turtleberry7423
@turtleberry7423 2 жыл бұрын
My wife and I wish that you could've been our sales person. Great info and your funny as well.
@janicesullivan8942
@janicesullivan8942 3 жыл бұрын
Just in case I get the urge to get some cinder blocks, I appreciate that knowing which trailer I should purchase for those impulse purchases. Thanks for dodging the rain, Josh.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
Thx for watching, Janice :)
@donnalundy5875
@donnalundy5875 3 жыл бұрын
Yes I like the cougar 22mls
@carolluttrell8876
@carolluttrell8876 2 жыл бұрын
I LOVE Josh!! I'm from Michigan but transplanted to Texas in 2006. I faithfully watch and listen to his videos as superior info. Nearing retirement, I will purposely come to Hayletts for our new final rv. Yes all the way from Texas, and only to deal with Josh. Thank you Josh, your hard work earns my trust in a someone shaky mistrust field!!
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 2 жыл бұрын
Well thank y’all!!
@niteninja0133
@niteninja0133 2 жыл бұрын
Cougar wins on the kitchen. I love the sink island. So much counter space. Kinda separates the areas more. Love it
@dtrayman
@dtrayman 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Josh. Very good job.
@embershapiro9205
@embershapiro9205 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your honesty and that you point out equivalent features and bonus differences between 2 similar RV models. You give fair reviews of your RVs, are very thorough, and explain differences from a "personal preference" perspective, rather than a bias. The only thing that I wish were mentioned were weight and even ballpark price or something like, "the cougar will generally cost a few thousand more (which is pretty insignificant when you are financing a big rig like these models). Thank you for your time, information, and integrity.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 2 жыл бұрын
Thx Ember - cool name Btw :) As this was more of a brand call brand comparison things like specs didn’t seem as fitting vs one of our usual actual trailer tours
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 2 жыл бұрын
But truly appreciate the constructive idea!!
@raymondschneider5217
@raymondschneider5217 3 жыл бұрын
Uncle Josh, we SOOOO appreciate all the hard work you do in these comparison videos; though, to be honest, it makes the decision process more difficult! In a good way, of course! It's always nice seeing how diff mfg approach the same prob differently. Have leaned toward the Cougar product, but, your comparison makes me re-think some of my impressions. SUGGESTION: Would love seeing a hitch comparison for TT and 5er, if possible. For newbies (or relative newbies), the hitch can be confusing. Maybe, show good, better, best hitch options for diff size (smaller, medium and higher wgt) units, which might benefit (or not) from sway control, etc. You do a fanDAMNtastic job of this type of comparison (good vs bad, er NOT so bad). We learn a TON from you! Keep up the GREAT work, Josh. Y'all Be Safe!
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
TY TY TY for all the kind words Appreciate the suggestions as well!
@mrtwitch965
@mrtwitch965 2 жыл бұрын
You're a huge help! I'm wanting to full time an RV and your info and attention to details and specs is immensely helpful!
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 2 жыл бұрын
Ty!!
@BenjiButtah
@BenjiButtah 2 жыл бұрын
lmao "crucified for being sexist" I laughed hysterically, well played sir, well played
@Spoolingturbski
@Spoolingturbski 3 жыл бұрын
I'm sure Cougar has it down by now, and I don't undermine your eye for quality... I just don't like the idea of OSB being used in the RV. I think that Whitehawk has the edge here. I like the fact that they use the Goodyear, magnum truss with plywood, Jaysmart, and rack and pinion slide. Great job as always!!!!!
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the Jayco brand a whole speaks to you pretty loudly then!
@ceciliaviveros4631
@ceciliaviveros4631 Жыл бұрын
2 years later...so informative! Appreciate all your knowledge. Thank you 😊
@costa2984
@costa2984 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the comparison, I never ever would have thought a Jayco compared to a Cougar, this was eye opening
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 2 жыл бұрын
Hopefully this year I can get some more of the “battle of the brands” done
@GovG33k
@GovG33k 3 жыл бұрын
13:00 You are dead on with the stability of manual stabilizer jacks vs. electric ones. We have the electric ones on our ‘16 324CG Outback and even though they’re easy, they simply do not work as great. Worse still, is that Keystone installed them on a C-channel below the I-beam to make room for under belly items (like gas lines) and because of this the C-channel brackets flex and allow you to feel bouncing. I installed sone SteadyFast arms and it didn’t minimize it very much. I called and spoke to the owner and he said it’ll hard pressed to get a solid foundation feel because of those C-channel extensions. FWIW, SteadyFast is great hardware and the owner is super responsive, so this is not a negative review of those.
@leespeyrer8424
@leespeyrer8424 2 жыл бұрын
glad i bought the cougar , but I did not know how much better of a deal I got
@AndrewEllisAndymanout
@AndrewEllisAndymanout 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this one Josh, Im leaning toward the Cougar.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 2 жыл бұрын
What made the difference for you
@michelebutler25
@michelebutler25 3 жыл бұрын
Josh, my husband and I love your videos. We have been wanting to upgrade from our 2014 Eagle for a while now but inventory is still scarce in Florida due to Covid shortages so we haven't been able to walk through anything. Thanks for filling the void for us with your videos. We are REALLY looking forward to your video of the soon to be released Eagle 31 MB 5th wheel! It ticks all of our boxes but need a good video demo to be sure. We might even consider a road trip to purchase from you in the spring...we shall see!
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
I'm excited to see that one roll thru as well. It looks to be an amazing offering. I was never a superfan of their 30.5MBOK previous offering in that segment. I think this 31MB will blow it away.
@catherinehatt1224
@catherinehatt1224 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate all that you do information wise. I'm east coast Canada. Last checked $1.39 difference, not in my favor. So just kicking tires.
@augiemattheiss
@augiemattheiss 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! that was really good, a practical compare/contrast between two rigs can give anyone food for thought. Several details I never thought about, thanks for taking the time to post this video recording.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful! Subscribe and follow along if you haven't already. We have more of these comparisons in our library and will be adding more (once the weather warms back up lol)
@user-qf4mu8ci5j
@user-qf4mu8ci5j 7 ай бұрын
I liked how you brought out the roof construction one plywood and the other OSB. the reason OSB feels more solid is because plywood is a directional material , it is designed to run perpendicular to the rafters where as OSB is non-directional .
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 7 ай бұрын
Ah Ty. Thats helpful
@tinabrinson3385
@tinabrinson3385 3 жыл бұрын
I am learning so much from your videos. I'm preparing for full time and deciding on a travel trailer.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
Ty for joining us Tina :)
@hansschut7765
@hansschut7765 Жыл бұрын
Josh I just subscribed but I have watched many of your vids and you are the man! The master in RV Reviews! I have learned so much from your videos. I own an older ('13) Cougar but love to learn all the new features and options as well. Saying hi from Vancouver, Canada! Keep up the great vids!
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
Hans thx so much for taking time just to share something kind! Cheers mate :)
@missmindersue
@missmindersue 3 жыл бұрын
After hubby watched this, he told me “We’re only 33hrs away!” 😳 Seriously 😒 then let’s go! 🌹🌹🌹 We’re very interested in the Cougar, doesn’t seem like many in our area, 😔 so who knows, we might just take a road trip! 🕺💃🕺 WhooHoo! Thank Q Josh 😉
@donaldrosenfarb1392
@donaldrosenfarb1392 3 жыл бұрын
I never miss a new video. Tech info and Manuf updates are always changing. Sincere appreciation for keeping us up to date.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
Thx for watching Donald!!
@chesshead3943
@chesshead3943 Жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks josh! You have a wonderful knowledge of both of these brands!
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
Ty :)
@henryhester1897
@henryhester1897 3 жыл бұрын
Best RV information source. From California!
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, thanks! Which camper did you like better?
@henryhester1897
@henryhester1897 3 жыл бұрын
I’m a Cougar 22RBSWE kinda guy. No window and large fresh water tank.
@deboraherman9244
@deboraherman9244 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the efferdent, put into the info you gave to us, it was a lot. Keep up the good work. Thanks again. Take care, stay safe.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 2 жыл бұрын
My pleasure!! Thank you Debora
@geofflyons3221
@geofflyons3221 3 жыл бұрын
Really enjoy your videos, very informative , well delivered, enjoy the humor! Practical , we are doing research to decide which brand/style/design to buy for our retirement trailer , Thank you
@desertrat6370
@desertrat6370 2 жыл бұрын
Great! duh- bubble review/comparison, Josh! I, being a Libra (no, I don't really believe in that stuff), would go nuts trying to decide between these two rigs. My scales would flop around til they broke! I do lean towards the WhiteHawk only because of just one slide...dinette/theater seats. No overloaded, in my opinion, kitchen slide. Like you said...different paths to the same conclusion. Both rigs are really nice! ALTHOUGH!....... Just watched a video on the new WhiteHawk...Jayco White Hawk 27RK Travel Trailer. THAT is a great looking rig! The bathroom in that is awesome! Plenty of elbow room for "paperwork"! Still don't like the miniature ovens, or the glass cabinet inserts but, not a deal breaker. I do like the rear kitchen on the 27RK. The true queen is more than enough for me and my 66lb canine. Yes, she sleeps on the bed! Yep! I sequed! Anyway, both rigs in your comparison are really nice TTs. But, and you should check it out, the WH 27RK is my current #1.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 2 жыл бұрын
I am excited to see the updates on that one myself. Ty for letting me know she’s a good one!
@TexasScout
@TexasScout 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely one of your better videos, although long it was very comprehensive and I appreciate the comparison between the two. Let’s continue this trend. The only thing I wish you would have added is weights loaded and unloaded
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
Well thankya for tuning in :) Regarding weights -- it wasn't really a "THIS cougar vs. THIS white hawk." I merely used a pair as a reference point. It's more focused on the similarities and differences between the brands as a whole
@waynedoyle8150
@waynedoyle8150 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent In-depth review and comparison! Would love to see a playlist of reviews where are you compare different manufactures strengths and weaknesses, these are very helpful! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 2 жыл бұрын
I'll see if I can work in some more brand battles Hard to compare from a top-level MFG vs MFG as some brands like forest river allow each of their brands to operate virtually independently so there's not an over "DNA" you can trace
@byroneidem5944
@byroneidem5944 2 жыл бұрын
you are good and honest on your videos, thats why when we are ready witch is coming up I will be calling
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 2 жыл бұрын
Man TY Byron! We try!!
@jeffreyfrankenfield9486
@jeffreyfrankenfield9486 3 жыл бұрын
Great video Josh appreciate all your work on this. Both awesome trailers, interesting to hear each manufacturers history and how they developed their product over the years. I fell in love with the Cougar about 5 years ago and their recent upgrade to zero degree package and Auto Leveling make me a future Cougar owner.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
Can't fault you for it. Cougar has gone up in cost a bit in recent years, but the "upscaling" of their models is undeniable
@luisgiron1907
@luisgiron1907 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the information. We are in the market for an RV. You did a great job competing them.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Luis!! A few things have changed since this was recorded but it should still give you a good idea for the current models
@GaryBrownrigg
@GaryBrownrigg 2 жыл бұрын
Thoroughly enjoyed that video, Josh! Great editing. Your hard work shows.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 2 жыл бұрын
Ty Gary :)
@kimberlymartin409
@kimberlymartin409 3 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate your unbiased side by side comparisons. I look forward to more. Thanks!
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@davygomes356
@davygomes356 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I’ve actually been comparing both these trailers for the past two months trying to deciding which I liked over the other and today I finally made my decision thanks to your video! You provided so much more useful information then what you get from the manufacturers websites! Great job!
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
Glad we could help. We'd definitely love the opportunity to earn your business in return for our efforts naturally. Doesn't matter if you don't live locally -- give us a shot and you'd be surprised what we could make happen for you! Curious -- which brand did you choose and what tipped the scales for you?
@davygomes356
@davygomes356 3 жыл бұрын
@@JoshtheRVNerd I like the floorplans of the Couger more then the Whitehawk and I'd heard that Jayco has better quality so I was torn between, but your very detailed video made me feel better about going with the Keystone. I'm in New Jersey and I don't mind doing business with someone long distance but it bothers me to buy something so expensive without being able to walk inside of it first. Thank you!
@michelesteward5170
@michelesteward5170 2 жыл бұрын
Learning so much about my new rig (a Cougar) from you, thanks!!!
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 2 жыл бұрын
My Pleasure, Michele! Would love it if you took a moment to drop us a quick review at bit.ly/3sQtSlV in return for the helping hand!
@michelesteward5170
@michelesteward5170 2 жыл бұрын
@@JoshtheRVNerd you bet!
@nancyross1004
@nancyross1004 3 жыл бұрын
We have a cougar TT and when we sit at the free standing table we noticed we felt like we were leaning towards the window. We pulled the chairs away and stood and you could definitely feel a “soft spot” right where the chair sits. It flexes quite a lot. My husband looked underneath and there are braces in the corners but not in the exact spot where it flexes. He put a bottleneck jack under it and it helps a little but I feel like we shouldn’t have to do that. Other then that we love our 2019 trailer!
@mitchvee5429
@mitchvee5429 2 жыл бұрын
Josh, your knowledge and expertise is nice so I can study up on what trailers are ideal for me when I go to buy. Thanks. Continue the sound effects when describing stuff. Funny shit.
@BigDawgBeav
@BigDawgBeav 3 жыл бұрын
you're awesome Josh! for me it's always been Cougar. The White Hawk full-length closets are a no-go for me. Hell, the cougar closets are close....
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
You prefer the more open style of side stand I take it?
@DamageLLC
@DamageLLC 2 жыл бұрын
Just a suggestion, floor plans and RV specs like you have in your other videos would be cool to see side-by-side. If I missed that somehow I apologize. But that would be awesome to view together.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 2 жыл бұрын
Np. This wasn't a comparison of two specific models so much as just "white hawk vs cougar" from an "overview" level
@DamageLLC
@DamageLLC 2 жыл бұрын
@@JoshtheRVNerd understood. Thanks.
@587G
@587G 3 жыл бұрын
Another excellent educational video and I'm not a "first time owner". We sold our Grand Design and are looking for a higher quality unit and you are talking about two mfgs. and models that we are considering. Thank you for taking the time to do these. Time wise.... the way I see it, this is a major purchase and homework is very necessary. A trip to Coldwater to work with Gene is coming soon. Thanks Josh for you in depth lessons.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much not just for watching but also for allowing my family's team the opportunity to work with you. It truly means a lot!
@JeffInDFW
@JeffInDFW 3 жыл бұрын
OUTSTANDING. I watched every minute. Videos like this are exactly what every smart buyer is doing. Trying to compare the differences between similar RVs, but instead of spending weeks or even months trying to find out all these details, you provide them in one place. HUGE deal for me is.....construction. How are they built. What is in the floor. Is the back wall laminated? Suspension and frame. People on the forums also ask about construction and there are rarely answers. You shared the differences in this video. The Cougar 22MLS with two seating areas, King bed, larger shower and 5,750 dry weight really has me interested. I am hoping it is available with 50 amp service not just for two AC units, but because my wife likes her microwave and hair dryer while I like my AC and coffee pot so we fight over power on a 30 amp trailer....You are the best, Josh. Thanks for all the effort in these videos.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for watching!! You'll be happy to know ALL Cougar TT's are 50amp standard, so that 22MLS just got a little better for you! We have several incoming. That's going to be a hit. We're happy to educate in return for a fair shake at working with you when you're ready!
@TheGrainSideUp
@TheGrainSideUp 3 жыл бұрын
Damn Josh! Stop making great and informative videos please. I thought I had one or two models picked.....not another two on the list. Thanks.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
😂 sorry? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@jasonf6182
@jasonf6182 2 жыл бұрын
Great side by side comparison of the jayco and cougar... Honestly it would have to be a coin toss for me as they are both great RVs... I would be happy with either
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 2 жыл бұрын
I think that's a fair response. At this "level" the RVs have more than they need. It's all about small preferences.
@redgingerbreadpam
@redgingerbreadpam 3 жыл бұрын
Omgosh the ending to this video is priceless 🤣 😂 😆 Proof I watch your videos till the end...because I get smarter with each one. Thanks for all your knowledge you share.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
lol -- TY Pam :)
@flexinlex1
@flexinlex1 3 жыл бұрын
Great job, you have sold this to me through a video. You should have a full Rv camper review channel on tv
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
I mean.. we kind of do here. KZbin is basically TV to a lot of people now :)
@dickbrack1368
@dickbrack1368 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Josh I echo all the positive reviews about YOU! buddy as mentioned by others, especially your ability to provide all of us with an unbiased review that clearly explains everything THEE most information than any other RV review I've watched. With that said, I and all of us who are considering a purchase of either of these two RV brands would like to see more detailed information about their holding tanks [especially the black water flush system - the worst job to do during any camping trip] and the water heater; both capacity and ability to keep water hot during the use of the shower - plus - the size of the shower. By that I mean a lot of showers in other RV's end up being too small to be able to move around as you need to do to get a good refreshing shower. Looking forward to your reply and hopefully a new video add-on / or Part 2 to this one: DiDo
@lindsayrose9395
@lindsayrose9395 2 жыл бұрын
I second this response! I too wonder which brands of RV's have the best plumbing for all seasons, especially which are the best winter setups/ packages & for hot seasons! The biggest showers & shower-tub combos especially because it seems like 90% of RV's have shower only! Some of us can't live without a tub combo to soak in a nice hot bath with some essential oil & epsom salt after a long hard day of work! Can't manage that in a shower. Also which have the instant hot water heaters & the macerating toilets? Residential sized appliances for families & Which brands has the best quality family style furniture for convertability & durability & all those great things... Thank you so much for all your amazing videos! 👏 I subscribed & watch your videos often, I hope you can get to a few of my responses so I can figure out some things in question before we go buy a newer RV for our work travels. We need all weather durability, 1/2 ton towable for F-150 truck, sleeping space for 2-4 people +1 blue heeler dog, we would prefer shower-tub combo (large bathroom & kitchen counter, cabinets & appliances, with the most possible storage- no nook or cranny wasted!) Another question, is there a 1/2 ton RV that has a small spot for at least a 2 in 1 combo washer- dryer unit? 🤔 Much appreciated all the videos and information you help provide all of us across the states! 🇺🇸 Thank you so much for all your hard work & keeping it 💯% real & also staying lively, family friendly & funny too! 😁
@skyedoerscher9078
@skyedoerscher9078 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video!! Newbie and shopping, great to see all of this explained so well!
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
Welcome aboard! :)
@931shooter
@931shooter 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the time you took to make this video. There was a lot covered that I would of never thought about,so this was very helpful
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome!
@reproverebukeexhortevangel2131
@reproverebukeexhortevangel2131 Жыл бұрын
You are the king of RVs! A wealth of information that helps all of us be informed buyers.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
Wow.. TY :)
@72151
@72151 Жыл бұрын
Really enjoy your reviews as a learning platform. There's a ton of different things to consider and learning about them from your candid reviews helps
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
Glad you like them!
@badgerpa9
@badgerpa9 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, thank you for all of the details. I like the U dinette in the hawk, but I like the Cougar better, seems to have more appeal. Don't play with lightening.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate how you can see sharp qualities in both. For me it's *tough* I've been a big cougar fan for a while. But white hawk has recently really started to polish themselves nicely
@badgerpa9
@badgerpa9 3 жыл бұрын
@@JoshtheRVNerd Kind of like I am a GM fan, I can get in and out of my yukon xl and not hit my head and I feel comfortable in it, I rented an excursion a few years back on vacation and I knocked my noggin every time getting in and out and just did not sit right in it. Sometimes I can tell why other times it is just how it feels. Also Cougars eat hawks, so that too. (lol)
@ty4x4jeeper1
@ty4x4jeeper1 3 жыл бұрын
thank you for he side by side review of these two. we happen to be currently looking at both of those two lines and you answered a bunch of questions that i had
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Glad to hear it. Footage like this takes a LOT of extra time to put together so glad to know it's appreciated :)
@mbwheeler70
@mbwheeler70 3 жыл бұрын
So much to unpack. All of it good. Great information for those considering purchase you really give them a lot to work with to make good choices upfront. I really wish I had known about you and watched more of your stuff before my purchase. That being said I’m still very happy with what I have and I appreciate seeing the tech and getting insights for my own mods and upgrades.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah they're quite similar on the surface, but I try to get a little more detailed & sometimes it's splitting hairs in these comparisons But if it were my lots-and-lots-of-money being spent, then I know I'd want those tiny details
@teresas683
@teresas683 Жыл бұрын
Totally appreciate your videos⭐️ I have an RV that I love but I’m entertained by your videos and I learn things to boot!👍🏻
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
What do you have??
@jordancook1668
@jordancook1668 2 жыл бұрын
Without you, I would never have heard of Coldwater, Michigan.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 2 жыл бұрын
There's three things to do in this town Drink Buy an RV and LEAVE lol (but... we don't recommend mixing drinking with the other two at the same time)
@williamquestmagic
@williamquestmagic 3 жыл бұрын
I really like this Head to Head comparison between models Josh. Look forward to seeing other brands and model comparison. A real plus to educate future RV buyers. Thanks, bill in Florida
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
More coming soon! Did you have a favorite between these two?
@beverlysullivan9041
@beverlysullivan9041 Жыл бұрын
You are the best Josh I really appreciate your videos doing research before buying our first (and hopefully last) RV so the education is priceless!
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
TY Beverly! Some handy tips here for first time potential owners: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eoCWpmR4oJKlmKc
@shannonclapp3455
@shannonclapp3455 3 жыл бұрын
Wry well done…thanks for the in-depth review.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
Ty!!
@adamptaszynski9960
@adamptaszynski9960 3 жыл бұрын
I own a 2020 Jayco White HAWK, I have been to Colorado from Virginia to Florida, and then back to Florida from Virginia. I have been seeing caulking squeezing from the seems at each corner. Should I be concerned, and should I recaulk the seems. Other then that I have not have had any problems with it, its 23ft and my wife and I are very happy with it. My wife and I are originally from Michigan, born and Raised.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
Nothing concerning. As with anything the more you use it, the more monitoring and upkeep you'll need.
@bobp6698
@bobp6698 3 жыл бұрын
Very good videos. I really watch your videos and am going to purchase a rv soon. Think I’m more interested in the solar/ 12 v refrigerator option.
@TallSlowGuy
@TallSlowGuy Жыл бұрын
Josh…I’m in the process of research for our first TT purchase…your videos are my go-to! The attention to detail, honest evaluations, and humor have made you the number one “TT Guy” online! My wife and have been able to narrow down our choices to about 6 or just based off your reviews. I wish there was a “Josh the Pickup Truck Nerd” to help us with that choice! Keep up the good work and Thank You for being a shinning light in the Sales World…more salesmen and companies should go to Josh U to take lessons!
@kgumpper88
@kgumpper88 3 жыл бұрын
Love your videos. One suggestion... on this video you glossed over some key features in the kitchens- counter space and storage space. It appeared that there were significant differences between the 2 for that topic. Kitchen functionality is really important to us.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
That's because I wasn't comparing specific models -- just differences and similarities between the brands as a whole
@timpors7480
@timpors7480 3 жыл бұрын
Great commentary Josh ! Loved every minute of it. You are a natural with this stuff and with your humor you put it over the top. As far as I am concerned you are the best in the business with your knowledge by far!! keep it up I'll be watching.!
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
You're the best. Thx so much Tim. You keep watching and I'll keep cranking them out!!
@mmcmillan01
@mmcmillan01 3 жыл бұрын
Really needed this review, thank you so much for your time and effort. Best reviews on KZbin. In the Cougar/White Hawk camp.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
Our pleasure!
@mementomori887
@mementomori887 3 жыл бұрын
If it wasn’t for videos like this I wouldn’t have been able to buy my cougar a year ago. 3 months of videos only and most on this channel.
@karenrogers6149
@karenrogers6149 3 жыл бұрын
Great comparison between 2 of the travel trailers I’ve been thinking about. Thanks !
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
If you need more info, then give our team a shout. Always happy to help in return for the fair shake at working with you!
@markfountain4149
@markfountain4149 2 жыл бұрын
Great review. I love the detail that you provide in your reviews. Keep up the good work 👏
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mark
@adventureswithgnomie6553
@adventureswithgnomie6553 3 жыл бұрын
I'd still need to customize either. Free standing dinette and I would need at power recliner with the heat and massage for the seating simply because not everyone who camps is able-bodied.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
Both brands offer table/chairs option We could likely source you a power up/down recliner pretty easily as well if you were at that stage in your process Which felt "Closer" to what you were seeking?
@vasili70
@vasili70 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing these comparisons. We are very early in our search for an RV, but Jayco and Keystone are the two manufacturers we have at the top of our list. We plan to buy our first camper the last time basically, so this will take a while. Also, not knowing what the future holds for our country and economy.....the decision process will be analyzed to death before pulling the trigger. Who knows, may even choose something we haven't yet considered. Your videos are a valuable tool in our search. Thanks again!
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! Was one or the other of these more attractive, or just too close to call at this point?
@vasili70
@vasili70 3 жыл бұрын
@@JoshtheRVNerd Aesthetically, I think the Jayco looks better, but the Cougar seems like it is better equipped and may be more functional.
@kurumiweightman
@kurumiweightman 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your jolly disposition. You gave me lots to think about.
@wheeledo
@wheeledo 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks these are the exact two I was looking at and I liked the Cougar just a little better mostly the auto leveling feature
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
TY for the feedback and the visit! We have more comparisons coming -- I just need time to run the camera :)
@justicemalecke-t1d
@justicemalecke-t1d 2 ай бұрын
I Just recently got into RV sales and the videos you make have really helped. Thank you for making them
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Ай бұрын
have a great season!
@brianbelliveau5551
@brianbelliveau5551 Жыл бұрын
I like the cougar all the cabinets are hidden hinges it’s a lot more classy my keystone passport is the same way classy
@robertmckinney2804
@robertmckinney2804 2 жыл бұрын
This is perfect thank you! Also - what are the two model numbers of these? Or can you let us know the dry and gross weights of them? Thank you again your videos are very helpful!
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 2 жыл бұрын
Here are some links to the two specific RVs used as a reference during this video: * Cougar 34TSB kzbin.info/www/bejne/l2e3paZrlLSEaaM * White Hawk 29BH kzbin.info/www/bejne/el7CfaaHid51ps0 Specs should be listed at the start of each video for you Though I've only recently specifically listed GVWR rather. Often in the past I provided dry + cargo only but you can still get there
@spartyontop
@spartyontop 3 жыл бұрын
I like the White Hawk 100% better!
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