Can the RV Industry Recover from this? • RV Industry Update November 2024

[@gregglasner7662]

Happy birthday to you and your wife . Thanks for doing what you do

[@texillini1]

Happy Birthday to both you and your wife. Mine was October 29th. I enjoy these industry updates. Great tip on the eyeball 👀🌱 plant. Thanks.

[@JJStetson]

Josh's content is among the most solidly reliable available on the WWW.

[@garym9455]

Love your industry updates! Thanks for these informative presentations! This most recent one touched on Winnebago and as a previous GD Reflection owner and currently a Winnebago Minnie owner since 2022 (as a result of downsizing to a couples camper) I had to offer my own personal experience comments about Winnebago needing to go a looooong way in materials, design, workmanship and quality to be on the same playing field as GD. This is taking into consideration that Winnebago is charging premium pricing for their products, which I believe puts them in a similar class as an Imagine. Not only did I have a huge number of warranty related repairs, which I never experienced with GD, but I also had to perform a lot of adjustments myself to cabinet doors/ hinges to align or create properly operational functionality. The cabinets, as I found out after purchase, are not solid wood and are absolutely the cheapest materials available that soak up a teaspoon of water and get bloated from water from the slide room when closed in the rain or from wet shoes worn from outside. Outside, many areas needed recaulking due to gaps or missed areas. In summary, I thought I was buying a product that was under the GD product portfolio, but after owning for a year or so, I have been very disappointed in the price/value relationship of this travel trailer. On the bright side, it does tow like a dream behind my 1/2 ton pickup!

[@slh2887]

Even though I am not in the market for another RV product at this time, these videos are the gold standard to me for keeping up with the industry ups and downs. VERY much appreciate them! Now, my other comments. At first I only thought there would be one, but you kept going and I kept making notes! 1. Regarding the change at Winnebago, one would hope this will in some way bring the quality of the Winnebago brand way way up. Every time I looked at one of their products I felt that the fit and finish did not fit so well and not everything was finished out as correctly and neatly as it should have been. If that happens without diminishing the Grand Design, product, win/win. Because of my impression of the Winnebago product I was not a happy camper when GD was acquired by them, but GD seems to have held its own in spite of that. 2. Little Shop of Horrors? I nearly spit out my adult tea when you went down that rabbit hole! To me that musical is a hoot and a half with a great message and I would have never thought it would be something you referenced. Loved that! 3. Park amenities: I may be the oddball but when I am vetting RV parks I really only want a few basics: water and power hook ups, sewer hookup or dump station, shade and quiet. I travel the country to see the country not to see the inside of the RV park or partake in their amenity offerings. If I am on a long trip and need a laundromat, then I do appreciate the park having one. I don't think I have ever used the showers or toilet facilities in one. Because of my simple needs, I camp most often in state parks, national parks, or COE campgrounds. 4. RV purchases declining. I think you said that the numbers suggest that people are waiting longer to flip and trade. What I didn't hear you say is one big reason for that, in my opinion: interest rates on financing. I think you said that payments on a used one could be the same as payments on a new one and that would be due to interest rates. When I bought last year, after being used to years of low rates on vehicles I could not wrap my head around 8/9/10% rates and I was fortunate to find a way to pay cash and not finance. At those rates I bet many think twice, especially if trade in values are dipping as well. Appreciate you and these videos so much but that's enough from me! I need to refill my adult tea! After spitting half of it out my glass is empty! :)

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Thanks for the kind words and detailed feedback. I always appreciate your insights and perspectives as viewers as well You all help me right back

[@johnbender6380]

Yessir! Thank-you for taking the time to research and verify what many of us are aware of regarding values. Much appreciated!

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

You bet! I try to keep it real.

[@michaelschoon1884]

Thank you Josh, and Bish's for putting out so many great videos and these monthly updates. And, Happy 37th Birthday, Nerd and also to your (much) better half! 🎉🎉🎉

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Appreciate you watching, and thanks for the birthday wishes!

[@gregjames5070]

The RV industry deserves a reality check for the crap they pulled during Covid.

[@percyblok6014]

Cheap, easy money led to a lot of quality decline.

[@markvollrath3833]

Glad they made record profits to cover the losses in this terrible economy with inflation and high interest rates.😢

[@kckettridge]

They are still pulling crap long after Covid and won't change unless and until people stop buying this trash.

[@joewhitfield2252]

During Covid? Have u been in any 2024s? Or 25? The quality isn’t going up 😂

[@BobKeefe]

Happy Birthday to you and the misses 🎉🎂🎈

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Ty!

[@BassFever4Ever]

Man, I'm super proud of the content you provide! You are the rv nerd we all need in our lives. Thank you for being honest and transparent!

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

I try to do my best to provide the truth and not just hype, so thanks!

[@RickyIwa]

I also appreciate that you mentioned the difference between lowest hard money (bottom line $$$) and lowest monthly payments and saying neither is right or wrong. I tend to be a hard money guy but I often weigh the cost of money itself. Financing new isn’t always wrong and getting better terms for a new RV may make sense. The other thing to consider is that while someone could pay cash for a trailer and be free and clear, they could finance a trailer and let the money sit in a mutual fund that pays more than the interest rate (not as easy recently). But even a couple of percent difference with money market savings (if you are risk adverse) gives you more financial flexibility with cash in the bank. I like to finance because I know the cost of the money for the term of the loan. If interest rates go up, you are golden locked in the loan with the cash in the bank probably making more money. If interest rates go down, you can refinance the RV. People just need to remember that RVs are not an investment and it is a form of entertainment that is a long term continuous cost. 😂

[@sssophiesmom]

Happy birthday to you and your wife. November is a great birthday month. My mom will be 91 in one week. I will be the big 6 - 0 on Thanksgiving.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Appreciate the well wishes! Happy birthday to your Mom and a great Thanksgiving to you

[@refugiopoint]

Agree with lots of the comments, Josh is a real stud, great guy, perhaps one of the truly honest people in this world......definitely the RV World!

[@deborahmeritt3045]

Thank you for your candidness about many things. You are my # 1 go to guy for a lot of information (...not to mention your sense of humor). I really enjoy your videos!

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Appreciate that, it's all about keeping it real. 😊

[@darrelldoty7757]

We have been RV people since probably 2015 or so. The problem we have now is that you can never get a spot unless you reserve it 3-4 months in advance. The days of deciding to go camping on a whim are gone. Plus, most of the good spots are always taken now by people that live in their RVs and they just move around from park to park. We got to use our Momentum three times this past year. It's getting so bad in the Texas and Oklahoma area that its almost not worth owning one anymore.

[@greyfox243.]

No offense, but one has to be deliberate about camping. Yes, the days of last minute planning are gone. We plan our camping six months to a year out in advance.

[@HAHA.GoodMeme]

dispersed camping is real camping. Get out of the campgrounds. They are for vagrants and cityslickers

[@BoomBoomSoon]

@@greyfox243. Its a good plan in theory but one can never count on the weather here in Oklahoma. You could plan an awesome trip 6 months prior and be super excited for it. Then, when the time comes, the weather ruins your whole trip. Camping at the spur of the moment is really the only way and that is impossible now.

[@laattardo]

We need a few more RV parks to keep up with this new demand

[@ek8137]

Same here in Ontario Canada for the most part. We have decided to go early and late in the season so we can get in where we like.

[@tom7073]

Great video Josh! Our main campground is run by the state, so I don’t see them adding WiFi lol. We’re still looking at couples coaches, I just wish these manufacturers could get it right when it comes to plumbing an RV correctly! 🙄

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Appreciate you watching! 😄

[@NHGUIDE88]

It seems to me a lot of RVs are asssembled kits. 'fixer-upper's if you will. but that is probably nothing new and a re-redunant feeling. Happy Birthday to you and your wife...Love your straightshooting about how things really are. We love your content and delivery.

[@jrcriner6542]

My wife is a year and a month older than me. Happy birthday to you both. Really appreciate the videos

[@ShawnPatterson402]

Camping has changed. The electrical requirements of a campground today are ginormous. Let alone the requirement for internet. I guess I am old school....I prefer taking my trailer to where there is no wifi signal nor cable. Why do I want all those distractions when I am trying to enjoy a scotch next to a campfire? But apparently I am slowly becoming unique. oh well.

[@edwardcote1331]

our travel trailer is 3 years old.we still haven't turned on the t.v.

[@pilot41186]

Internet is not a requirement bring your own

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Yeah, it is pretty crazy. How many campgrounds don’t have the power to handle a lot of the newer RVs. They definitely become power hogs.

[@NancyD2]

Many people are traveling AND working. I can work remote for short stretches. Having reliable internet is key. As we do more of it, we will get our own system. But currently, being able to work for a few hours during the day means we CAN go on the road. It isn't always just for scrolling Facebook. My husband lives in our RV FOR work, so having the bells and whistles of a house is important too. Not everyone is getting away away.

[@BobKeefe]

Thanks for doing these monthly updates 👍

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

You bet! Appreciate you watching.

[@JB-o7re]

Thanks for another great video. Happy birthday to you and your wife.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Appreciate the birthday wishes!

[@johng6221]

Thanks Josh. I don’t even own a rv and watch your channel 🤣🤣🤣

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

I appreciate your support! 😄

[@laattardo]

Same here...I want one though!

[@JulieLynn1997]

Me too ! ​@@laattardo

[@Kevinw4040]

Guess I’m part of this club also. Wouldn’t mind having one some day.

[@tedrehm8074]

As always, love and appreciate the info

[@GaryB94558]

Thank you doing the updates Josh. I am always interested in the info you share. I don't own an RV yet. I'm in the research mode. Have been for several years. Still surfing to find the perfect trailer. Take care

[@rv_at_the_beach2603]

Well done again. My only comment is that service needs to expand hugely. I don't know if this is a thing yet but dealers need some kind of mobile service offering. In suburban Houston many, many RVs are stored away from the home (mine is). It's a SUPER pain to go to the dealer for "everything".

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

I'm 100% for ANYTHING that improves service thru the industry It's taken too long but I think MFGs are getting the message But it's a major nut to crack given the size of the industry now

[@jerrytalley802]

Josh, if the rv manufacturers are smart, they will follow you and your subscribers closely. I’m sorry, but any suffering from the manufacturers gets no sympathy from me. It appears almost none of them are concerned about quality, and by extension, US, THE END CONSUMER!. I shopped for 4 months, watched every one of your videos pertaining to the campers we were interested in, and still not real happy with the quality and attention to detail. Nothing to do with you Josh, you are a champion of the industry. You mention these flooded rv’s hitting the market, why is it even legal to do that without disclosure? Like cars that have been totaled, they are sold with that understanding and a SALVAGE title. Please tell me tgey can’t sell flooded rv’s without disclosure? Josh, keep up the fine fight for us. Please help push for rv lemon laws, mobil service under warranty, (EVEN IF IT’S YOUR LOCAL DEALERS TECHNICIAN). Lastly Josh, things like Bish fix at dealer levels and have professionals at the manufacturer that actually know how the camper is built, and help us address minor issues. My few experiences calling Jayco customer service, I get a young lady, that has probably never set foot in a camper, much less be any help, lol. It’s an absolute joke. I;ll put in a plug for Rockwood though. I was considering down sizing to a Rockwood, called them, and got an experienced guy that works/worked on the line, “YOU GO ROCKWOOD!”

[@GWN90]

@@rv_at_the_beach2603 I'm one of two RV technicians at my dealer. We're located about an hour's drive from the US border 🇺🇸🇨🇦😁 In the spring and fall, almost 50% of our customers are Americans. I asked a few of them why they cross over for spring checks and fall winterizing, they all say what you say! Apparently they can't get appointments back home. Always friendly folks! One older couple always brings us a bottle of Bourbon and cigars for Christmas gifts 😂

[@jimmoore7725]

Great video. I have worked part time at a local campground. You hit the nail on the head about WiFi. Also cable tv is big too. If an amenity was closed or temporarily down that also was a problem. Camping is more and more clamping. Thanks for the update.

[@laattardo]

I agree. I don't want a TV. I want to disconnect.

[@stevez340]

@@laattardoI think we all do👍until it rains for 3 days straight, and then we don’t mind watching some golf or a game for a couple of hours😂

[@laattardo]

@stevez340 yeah, I read a lot. I always have a crochet project with me and my husband and I play cards and board games. I think my dog would have the worst of 3 days of rain 🤣

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

WiFi, Cable, and Campgrounds getting crowded - it's a big problem!

[@LightOfReason7]

You have always been open and honest and I appreciate that. Thank you Sir!

[@rbg9914]

Keep up the great work Josh Thanks for the updated rv circles

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

You bet

[@jackwhite1229]

Happy Birthday to you both. November is a great birthday month. I do like these update videos.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Appreciate you watching, and yes, November is the best month. 😉

[@RedMedic1972]

I'm always sad to see an industry slump. I do find it rather fortuitous in that I'm looking to get my first RV TT in the early spring. And I have no issues driving a day if need be to pick up. I have a feeling that loan interest rates are going to be very favorable here in the next few months. I'm considering used,but not earlier than 2022. Doing my own inspection is not an issue. I'm still in the research phase and your channel is immensely helpful. Your closest dealer is 11 hours drive from me. Not a problem, really and I'm seriously considering the trip to buy from your organization because of your presentation and honesty. However, where I am, the market is a gold mine for me. Keep doing what you do. The wisdom of the Nerd is valuable, and is no doubt helpful for many considering purchasing their first RV.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Yeah, you may actually be hitting the timing of that very good. Especially around spring sale season

[@RedMedic1972]

@@JoshtheRVNerd I am looking through your channel for a 'top 5 under 25'' or a 'top 5 under 6k'. I am finding more information I thought I would ever need. I am becoming a Nerd myself - though I will never reach the level of Mastery that you have achieved.

[@ek8137]

Thanks Josh for including Canadian data for us Hosers! Appreciate it eh!?

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

oh ya for sure ya know

[@briankrone2631]

Thanks for the updated info across the board in this crazy industry. For the record the misses and I are from California so it's ok all the other states know how bad this state is so I don't blame the manufacturers for exiting this state. Happy birthday to you and your better half 🎉🥳

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Appreciate the feedback!

[@user-pv7em1ku9m]

I haven’t finished the video, however, I would be a first time buyer. Thank you for the information regarding the information. I enjoy the channel and the content that you provide. I will definitely keep the information in mind when purchasing a towable. May even cut the shipping cost and pick up directly from the lot once inspected. 👍🏻

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Glad the channel is helpful, picking up directly from the lot is a great way to save on costs.

[@debbierhode6291]

Happy Birthdays to Mr. And Mrs. Nerd Heroes!

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

The vest actually says nerd heard but the text style makes it look like hero lol

[@debbierhode6291]

@JoshtheRVNerd lol I realized that afterward but I'm sticking with it! Also, I LOVE my Nerd Merch my husband bought me for my birthday! Can't wait to go camping in the Spring and proudly fly my Flag, and use my beer koozy! Already wearing my hat and my Keychain is on my mower key lol!

[@mikemasters2882]

Thank you for the great information, and have a great weekend.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Appreciate the feedback and you too!

[@TheKnightofireland]

I learn alot from josh. Have watched him for years. Since he had his own company

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Was never _my_ company but my father's. I never wanted to have the big important chair in the corner

[@robertroth287]

Enjoyed the presentation. From one Scorpio to another, Happy Birthday to you and your wife.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Thanks for the birthday wishes and glad you liked the video! 🦂

[@CoolBreez69]

Yes! You keep filming and I will keep watching. Promise. 😀

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Appreciate you, man!

[@jerrodj4963]

Thanks again! Another great update! Always appreciated

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

I’m glad you’re enjoying them!

[@TallTimbersUSA]

An important factor I think you overlooked in the generational shift of buyers is that traditional homes have become so violently expensive that they're simply out of reach for many Millennial / Gen Z folks. I know multiple people that have either purchased RV's or tiny homes to be their permanent residence over the last three years.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

You're spot on. I've talked about that several times this year in these updates. I think I hit on this just last month actually

[@williammiller442]

Once again, another great video!!

[@ewl011]

Since I found your KZbin, I look forward to your 'Industry Updates" . While I don't own, and presently can't afford an RV, you cover a market not usually covered by financial news unless you go looking for it. Homogenization can be tricky. The car industry started that in 80's. One body style with a different nose and options sold by 5 different brands. Cadillac sold the Cimarron... a Chevy Cavalier with a vinyl roof.... You're sort of the "Meidas Touch" of the RV world, facts, and then thoughts and opinions. And, the three are presented that way. You do a great job and Happy Birthday to you and your other half. I celebrate in November too. ..... I was looking for squirrels at that point when the birds stop making noise.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Seriously when all the birds quit making noise, it freaked me out

[@twofeathers5145]

That rig you pass at 18:00 is a monster! I can't imagine loading/unloading and hitting the road with that bad boy. Some people are living the good life! It can't go where I want to go, though. Not with me behind the wheel anyway.

[@Erin-Thor]

That is a park or destination trailer. Have you ever visited an RV park with a permanent area? You can buy the land, pay for hookups, and use it any weekend you want, some even allow you to earn income from renting it out.

[@twofeathers5145]

@@Erin-Thor Gotcha. I told you it couldn't go where I want to go! lol

[@Erin-Thor]

@@twofeathers5145 LOL! I’m with you on that! I RV to get AWAY from people. Every time I’ve had (needed) to stay at an RV park, I have questioned my sanity.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Oh, I know it. Some of the things that we sell every day are so big. I couldn’t even imagine it.

[@thompsongl]

Excellent video and Happy Birthday to both of you 🎁🎉🎊

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Thanks for the birthday wishes and watching!

[@kathyboshart7695]

Happy Birthday you guys!!!

[@Maxible]

You nailed it in the industry slump section ... I bought one a few years ago at bonkers high prices and I want a new (larger) one now but because of the trend of prices being lower I'm still upside down on my trailer even though I've paid off over half of what I financed. ☹ Anyways, thanks for the awesome video as always! 😀

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

TY

[@Tool0GT92]

I bought my camper for $40k under two years ago, put $20k down. Went to look at trade in they wanted to give me less than what I owe. I will have to sell it privately.

[@laattardo]

The depreciation of an RV is worse than a vehicle and you lose 20% just driving it off the lot

[@percyblok6014]

RVs and campers aren't investments. They're toilet or fire purchases. In other words when you buy you're flushing your money down the toilet or just lighting it on fire. Also, selling one of these things without clear title in hand is just about impossible.

[@shutupstoopid4518]

Good job as always and happy birthday

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Thank you! 😃

[@rufan2199]

Happy Birthday Josh and the Mrs’!! 🎉 I love the monthly updates

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Thanks for watching, appreciate it!

[@CasitaRvLife]

Thanks for the update and HAPPY BIRTHDAY to Mr and Mrs Nerd.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Appreciate the well wishes!

[@wendybenson5903]

Happy Birthday Month Mr. and Mrs. Nerd!!!!

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Ty!

[@CharlotteGifford-m1e]

Some parks are now turning people away if there trailer is older that 10 years old, this makes it’s harder to sell a used RV

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

That’s something that has been happening for a while actually. A lot of parks will still let you bring an RV and if you send them a picture showing that it’s not beat up though.

[@carltuckerson7718]

Thanks for the informative update!

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Appreciate the support! 😄

[@kevinnicholas3143]

I must agree with you regarding trying to get in touch with someone to handle complaints. I received a new rv with all kinds of factory issues. Wildwood you can’t even speak to CEO for complaint. Other state should pickup laws.

[@scott0763]

Nicely done! And as always, valuable content. Happy birthday to you and the Mrs!

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Thanks for the birthday wishes, and appreciate the feedback!

[@BobKeefe]

We just moved to Arizona from Illinois. Won't miss winter, but loved seeing all the brilliant fall colors behind you 🍁

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

It's pretty cool up here in the fall, but yeah, Arizona's a bit better for the winter.

[@TanyaRando]

I really wish I was in a position to have one of these, I'd have to be in the US first though! In Wales we have roads you can barely get a car down! I expect there's highs and lows in the business, as in a lot, with the uncertainty in the economy and people's finances. They probably had a big rise in business during covid. After sales improvement is always a winner. Maybe they could start having 3-6 monthly "check-ups" on people's slides, slide tops and roofs, electrics etc, replacement parts or appliances etc, as not every one is able to get on the roof, or under the rig, or super intensive clean outs of the plumbing. Courses for people on maintenance of their RV and what to look out for. Great big warehouses laying empty and people out of work is obviously the last thing people want. I'm in the group who would laugh and run away if someone said they were here to help and they were from the government! I'm obviously unaware of what's out there for manufacturers and customers, just spitballing things I'd like if I were there. #nerdherd #rvnerdherd We're not quite as litigious here although it's getting up there!.

[@TanyaRando]

I wrote this before I finished watching, so some of what I said is already in process lol Happy birthday to you both!! #nerdherd #rvnerdherd

[@daveinvictoriavirginia7959]

Josh... you are the Paul Harvey of the RV industry. Point, set, match ! If the "government " ever decides to add another cabinet position (rv industry czar), I recommend you offer up your wealth of knowledge, and jump on it. Just kidding... ulcers would then be your demise. As usual thanks for your continued public support.

[@REL3712]

And, he would become costly & ineffective.

[@travisnorris3165]

Paul Harvey is a name you don't hear often anymore. Good on you

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

I'd rather be in the RV industry than in DC these days lol

[@percyblok6014]

God help us all if the government keeps expanding and the populace keeps demanding it does.

[@juanitarobinson728]

Thank you for this great information.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Appreciate the feedback!

[@gadgetneck]

Have you ever suggested that people inspect their slides when they are in and out to make sure they can’t see daylight? We bought a new 24 Rockwood 2720IK in July and had a kitchen full of water when we arrived at home after a drive through a rain storm from IN to NC. I added that to my checklist when I buy another camper.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

I have. It’s a good idea. Means it may need a slide adjustment

[@ds5248]

Happy Birthday month Mr and Mrs nerd.

[@stevez340]

Unfortunately for most people, taking out a 10 year RV loan 4 years ago was was almost half the price of taking out a 10% or higher loan today😩

[@percyblok6014]

That's why prices need to decline.

[@stevez340]

@ Unfortunately, I can’t just put all the blame on manufacturers for 20% inflation and skyrocketing interest rates. Also, during Covid, supply was low so prices went through the roof. Today, supply is higher than demand, so we are seeing 30%-40% discounts.

[@ADONAIsays-so]

Thanks for the update Josh. I do truly value these and enjoy your candor and sense of humor! I look forward to next months briefing. God Bless

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Appreciate the kind words!

[@edwardcote1331]

i love when the new model years hit the showrooms.i just picked up a 2024 model year skidoo snowmobile for well below msrp.i intentionally waited for the '25's to come out.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

I think that’s a great strategy. When the new models come out, it’s the best time to snag a deal.

[@percyblok6014]

Who pays MSRP, especially on a snow mobile?

[@oldengineer1519]

Interesting talk. Happy birthday to both of you. Don Clark is keeping Grand Design and picking up Winnebago towables. Supposedly it is due to Winnebago trailers having major build quality problems resulting in excessive warranty costs and Clark being brought in to fix that. I think he has another problem besides build quality and that is the cheapening of the brand which appears to be affecting sales. Winnebago has always sold itself as a premium brand worth the additional cost yet their recent model years are not any different feature wise than many lower tier competitors. My feeling is Clark will get control of the build quality issue reasonably fast but he has a bigger problem with trying to decide where does Winnebago towables fit in the market and longer term corporate strategy. The new Wisconsin law is an improvement but having your new RV held hostage for 45 days before a warranty repair can be auto approved is still a long time to go without. I'd really need to know more about the California law to make an intelligent comment but on its surface if it forces a clear support and escalation structure on the RV manufacturers that is good for consumers and dealers. I've posted this in another forum but I think "camping" has a broad meaning. When I was younger it pretty much meant going out to a state or federal park with a tent, popup or by today's standards minimalist travel trailer. Somewhere over the past 20 or 30 years the meaning has expanded to cover what I call destination camping where the intent is not to get back to nature but to use an RV as a substitute for a hotel room or hotel based resort. In this latter case campground amenities and RV features become more important. Both are camping but very different from each other. It doesn't surprise me that younger generations tend more towards destination camping as I don't think they were raised with the roughing it style camping I was raised with and that my children were raised with. I also think social media and the like have some involvement when you look at all of the glamping style content creators out there. I expect when my granddaughter grows up if she decides to camp it will be with a well equipped RV. Even though we take her to old style state parks it is in our 22MLE not the Kelty tents sitting on the shelf in our back hall closet. I don't think you will see EV charging anytime soon at most campgrounds due to inadequate electrical service to handle the additional load and the inability to absorb the additional electric fees. I don't see your average Mom & Pop or KOA spending the money to upgrade the underground wiring, pedestals and adding electric meters to support EVs. They will eventually need to do it to stay in business but I wouldn't be surprised to see many choose to close down or sell out to one of the high end resort chains when that day arrives. In my area the mobile RV techs are the better service folks. Most started at an RV dealer and didn't like the way they were run so went out on their own. With word getting around quickly these guys don't stay in business if they don't know their stuff. That's unlike a dealership where other factors help drive business to the service department.

[@SeanLever]

Happy birthday to you and your wife Josh from ontario...my wife and I enjoy your videos.

[@hondo1829]

Josh hits the big time 😂 keep up the great work!

[@laattardo]

If a RV goes through a flood and gets "totalled" then the title for the RV needs to have a note for salvage like a car does.

[@timf6916]

Nice, Good job. Great information.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Glad you found it helpful.

[@larkendelvie]

Thanks Josh!

[@ricksgypsy2512]

Happy Birthday,!! 🎈🎉❤

[@philip48230]

Enjoy your videos. Keep ‘em up

[@silvertexan]

Happy birthday to you and your wife

[@weloveups831]

Why any corporation does business in California is crazy to me.

[@markmyers3858]

Probably because they like to make money 🤷‍♂️

[@midriffzero]

@@markmyers3858 They don't make money though. California is the worst state to do business in. Between the high cost of labor and state taxes they don't make that much being in Cali. Why do you think all these corporations are fleeing California right now?

[@percyblok6014]

​@@markmyers3858 LOL, that's what every person in Cali thinks. California is shedding population and businesses are fleeing because they like making money in California so much. I know more and more truckers that simply refuse to service California.

[@thomaskluck5905]

Happy Blessed Birthday to Mr. and Mrs. Nerd. Thank you for another very informative video. I wonder if Forrest River is shutting down in part due to CA environmental laws. So many companies have moved to neighboring states. Keep these types of videos coming.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Doesn’t sound like it was. I think it’s more just sustaining business.

[@percyblok6014]

One thing to consider about some of these new "leftover" models in comparison to some of the used units out there is the overall quality decline or complete drop off. I'm currently in the market for an RV to be used in a destination type role as we develop a remote property. Will be closing a deal in the next week or so and hands down, the used 5th wheels of the 2017-2019 years are simply better quality than any of the newer units we've looked at. Looked at some 2023 STILL NEW under warranty destination trailer units that are sitting on a dealer lot, not even a consideration compared to a couple used 2017 5th wheels in the same dealer's inventory. The wife and I have shopped the lots within a 50 mile radius HARD, and dollar for dollar, just better quality on display and more sanity in making a deal on units pre 2020 from everything we've seen.

[@linger2001]

Another wonderful update, Thank You

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@stevev7191]

Nerd your put in time on research great job thanks

[@TNPatriot1776]

Yes, uses an RV inspector. But beware that many inspectors are awful. The one I hired to look over our RV missed DOZENS of issues - including damage to the back end in which the LED light and the mud flap were completely missing. They also missed paint issues which hid the wreck damage. I suggest you find a mechanic who has actually worked on your brand and model to check over the rig.

[@waynec3121]

Thank You Nerd,wifi eliminates the need for cable or satellite plans

[@janicecrockett1400]

Investing in customer service is a very smart move.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Agreed

[@keithmartin3800]

Would love to see a video on the "top 5" no hook up campers. Most state and federal locations we go to, do not offer hook ups. The 12v fridge and on demand hot water tanks suck when you are off grid. I would trade in if the price changes hadn't suddenly made me upside down on my current loan. I started doing virtual builds on different manufacturers websites, trying to get the best of the best for off grid, but still have some comfort and amenities. It became daunting.

[@godwins1298]

Thanks Josh for the update I'm looking to purchase an RV first time to live in it as alternative housing temporarily for a year or 2 so that my situation

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

It’s not an uncommon one from what I see

[@paulmorrell6007]

Happy Birthday!!!

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Ty

[@JulietEcho]

Happy birthday, Nerds! 🎉❤

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

☺

[@maxcorder2211]

The RV industry builds 350,000 to 500,000 units per year. Every year. In 4 years, they built 2,000,000 units. On top of all those millions that already existed. How many new camp sites were built? Try to get a reservation at a campground you want when you want it.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Actually touched on those numbers a couple months ago

[@Ellis1127]

It’s a shame with all of the relief money that States received didn’t go to upgrading some of the state park campgrounds. Leveling sites, upgrading bathrooms, etc…

[@jasonpavelchik4652]

Happy birthday!

[@714metaldetecting]

those trees behind You Josh at the 7 minute mark are beautiful ! WOW

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

They're looking pretty good right now but they'll start to fade soon!

[@ricksgypsy2512]

I always look forward to your videos. I appreciate the information and your honesty. Is financing a TT easier with a new or used unit ? I am looking for a Springdale 150RD.. Is it something on the lot or does it have to be ordered? TIA

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

I don’t know what we have on hand. We should have everything on our website, but it wouldn’t hurt to call our teams in either Southern, Michigan or Indiana. We carry Springdale and Hyde out at those stores. In case you weren’t aware… Hyde out is literally the exact same thing as a Springdale with just a different model number. So that may help broaden your search.

[@ricksgypsy2512]

@@JoshtheRVNerd Thanks

[@andykives3420]

I can't speak for the RV industry, but as someone who owns pre-Winnebago Barletta tritoon and follows various owner groups, quality has dropped over the last couple of years. Some of the issues the new owners are reporting are embarrassing.

[@didibolter9362]

Thank you, Uncle Josh !

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

You bet

[@73Arland]

Going back 10 years ago we looked for reliable internet in RV parks and had extensive backup systems in place for when we were not able to get it. Today with so many internet based businesses it's becoming more and more of a necessity.

[@_darkmoonsfalcon_]

I find it interesting that Brinkley wasn't on that list and frankly they are the only ones I haven't seen absolute nightmare situations rising from, because of lack of quality control.

[@GWN90]

They are on the list 😊

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

They were there. Full line across the board

[@DJT-2024]

The makets in the crapper. Another reason we need to be sure to vote Tuesday!

[@CrymsonKyng]

When I get my rv, I’ll be buying Canadian or buying from one of the smaller, non Indiana based, companies(or building out my own, which I can do but I worry about getting insurance). The Canadian and Australia companies have always maintained quality, and the newer smaller companies are both hungry, dedicated to quality, AND are nimble enough to be able to adapt and adopt to modern uses. Getting an 8000 pound towable with 1600 watts of solar, 800-1200 amp hour batteries, and all composit interior for durable and weight savings is something that these current behemoths couldn’t possibly do without years of lead time and qc issues. But there is a Minnesota company(I’ve forgotten the name) that has such a 32ft standard

[@mikeholczer]

The bit at the end gave me an idea: maybe manufacturers could cover the costs of some level of training for RV owners. Owners willing to put in the time would likely then fix issues rather than wait for warranty service which would save the manufacturers paying the labor on warranty repairs. Got end up being cheaper for them, but they would probably have to do it in many locations around the county to get enough participation.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

It would be interesting to see a manufacturer try that.

[@jeffwise6575]

Happy Birthday Josh and your wife -from Tx nerd herd

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Ty

[@angelagonzalez7385]

Happy Birthday Month!

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Tyty

[@DarlisaMeger-zp7zi]

I don’t care if it’s new! Check your RV with a fine tooth and comb! Check the caulking around windows etc!

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

💯

[@ReflectedMiles]

HIgh-end motorized tanked. The wealthiest people have pulled back sharply. They are often preserving / risk-averse before the public recognizes why.

[@wvpok]

the colors up there are looking good!

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

yeah REALLY pretty right now but it'll fade soon

[@onniegranados8489]

We live in a culture where when everything is going good, that's because everything has changed for the better, and the stock market is going up because of this great growth in the economy. When things go downhill, that's just a temporary glitch. 🙂

[@JEG6919]

Much appreciated.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Our pleasure

[@mikekyle-y8i]

Something that is still affecting sales is the high interest rates. They have dropped some , but not to a level where it will stimulate sales. I have refused to upgrade to a larger destination because the interest rate adds another $100 a month.