Hazard Compressed Powder Cartridges

[@ewathoughts8476]

When I was a small boy, my great grand father (Civil War Vet) used to tell us stories. I laughed when he showed how he cocked his pistol (Colt 1851 Navy). He used the Hollywood movie way of holding the pistol vertically and pointing slightly behind his ear, and then bringing the piece back down to firing position. Those spent cap fell out every time, and he did not get cap jams. Sometimes we "Modern" people miss understanding the "Old" peoples ways. I learned to hold my tongue from that man. Sadly he passed away shortly after that lesson.

[@recoilrob324]

Thank you for this comment as I was going to mention the same thing. If the cylinder doesn't have the safety pins but the hammer is slotted for them, that can grab caps and cause problems too so filling the slot and smoothing the hammer face goes a long ways toward reducing (won't say eliminate) cap jams.

[@Everythingblackpowder]

@@recoilrob324we have a way to fix this problem but since it was right out of the box we didn’t have a chance to

[@TheIrishAmish]

@@Everythingblackpowder Please point me in the right direction, is this in one of your videos?

[@Everythingblackpowder]

No. Mike Beliveue had some videos on the subject but KZbin has recently taken them down due to their jihad against firearms content.

[@dort7402]

​@Everythingblackpowder it sucks these say jihadists are pushing these old kit guns are considered ghost guns and they are trying to change crap up, bull💩 . Anyway great video Jake it's really gonna suck when y t sensors everything we love by learning new things.

[@Schlachtschule]

A great video, and thanks for the shout out for my book! I came up with a new way to make these, I found (after a few dozen) that mixing the powder and dextrin, then measuring it out, then adding the water was a pain in the butt, so I thought of mixing the dextrin into the water first. That way, you simply measure whatever powder charge you're using then add the right amount of water (allowing for the dextrin's weight, so the proportions change a little), mix, and fill the mold. I talked to John Crossen about this, and he did it even before I could try it and says it worked great. You need to add a bit more alcohol because both of us are concerned about the dextrin going bad (it is organic, after all).

[@Everythingblackpowder]

Thanks Hugh!

[@cheops1292]

Im an old guy now, but when I was a kid, an old man with a lifetime of cap and ball shooting taught me how to use them. I laugh at your cap jams because the old man taught me if you use them wrong you'll jam up the works. The old timers used to point the barrel up before cocking the hammer to let the cap fall free. Been doing that all my life and had forgotten why as a never got any cap jams. Something to try.

[@45calibermedic]

I believe that the method you describe does work, but I also believe that the old-old timers didn't have to worry about it, because their caps were much more sturdily made than 20th-21st century ones and didn't break apart as easily, plus their guns were better tuned from the factory. They expected to use them in all circumstances from formal slow fire at the target range to belly-to-belly putting as many rounds into an assailant or multiple assailants as possible.

[@billietyree2214]

I remember as a kid watching movies of cowboys pointing their single action colts at the sky when they cocked it. I think these cartridge shooting actors were copying the actions of the old cap and ball shooters without knowing why.

[@servicetrucker5564]

@@billietyree2214And it looks cool on tv

[@TheRigmarol]

I fully enjoy every video you've made, thank you. If you are looking for suggestions; my I respectfully suggest exploring making your own BP caps. Also any input on flints and how to use them would be great. These, after all, are a part of "Everything Black Powder". Keep up the great work!!!

[@45calibermedic]

@TheRigmarol I firmly agree. Not with the rigmarole, which I liken to filibuster, a sign of evil days in the halls of government, but rather the idea of exploring sources of primary ignition.

[@jalexwheeler7751]

Sounds like a dehydrator might be a better choice than the oven. More efficient.

[@TheZombieSaints]

Vacuum chamber? Maybe overkill

[@wonder-bred]

I live in mississippi and the humidity is pretty high around here, but ive been able to dry plants/herbs in a paper sack sitting in the cab of my old truck in the yard. I dont have a dehydrator but a hot car will dry just as well

[@thedude7726]

​@@wonder-bredI used like 4 old sliding glass doors to build a solar dryer / green house

[@crossencartridge6403]

@jalexwheeler7751 that's what I use, it functions like the powder drying ovens they used back in the heyday of black powder manufacturing. There's were steam heated.

[@rickt10]

​@@TheZombieSaints Not necessarily a lyopholizor, just a dehydrator. 140 or so degrees with a fan, like what is used to dry brass after liquid cleaning.

[@bobrees4363]

I've always been a loose powder from a flask and round ball type of guy, but the compressed BP (and paper) cartridges make sense, especially back in the day when these guns were used in combat. I have owned more 1851 Navies than any other cap and ball revolver, but I have to admit Ilike the 1861 Navy best.

[@History_Coffee]

This video answered a shit ton of questions I had, thank you

[@Everythingblackpowder]

You bet

[@earlwheelock7844]

I just got done watching your vidio on the " HAZARD" cartridges, VERY interesting!!! When I was a kid ( early 1950s ), I was messing around in the attic of our rental, ( an unused parsonage ) in Dummerston Vermont , I was about 9yrs old at the time, and I found a couple of those cartridges, so I asked my dad what they were, he didnt know, ( HE had been around firarms all his life, so had his father, ( my grandfather ) and HE didnt even know what they were! So I FINALY got my answer!! THANK YOU!!!👍👍👍!! As for the cap jams , I had the same problem!, I found that Remington caps didnt jam NEARLY as bad as my Replica Arms ones do, as the cups on the Remington caps were much thinner and tended to blow off the nipple better

[@richarddean3154]

Fascinating method of constructing a cartridge. Thank you for detailing the process and results.

[@Everythingblackpowder]

You bet

[@kbjerke]

Reminds me of the Daisy VL caseless "cartridges". Thanks for the video, Jake! 👍

[@Everythingblackpowder]

Thanks Karl

[@smartmeis]

just a little tip, you can make your own nitrocellulose lacquer with 100% pure acetone and double or single base gun powder. just mix it together and let it sit. of course do your research, im not sure which is better for making it, but a quick google search can inform you.

[@Everythingblackpowder]

Thank you but I feel that smokeless powder is too valuable at the moment to be turned into glue.

[@mfree80286]

@@Everythingblackpowder Liquid bandage is nitrocellulose lacquer with some 'impurities'. Also, model airplane dope is still nitrocellulose based.

[@barto6577]

@@Everythingblackpowder Duco Cement is nitrocellulose base as well.

[@gunsnwater2668]

Guitar Luthers use nitro cellulose laqor. Sorry I can't spell.

[@dangeary2134]

Now we see the logic behind the H&K G11 with caseless cartridges! I LIKE THIS!!!

[@63DW89A]

First thing I do on Uberti C&B revolvers is replace the nipples. Uberti factory nipple flash holes are way too large for revolver use, allowing too much back pressure resulting in cap jams and action fouling. I use Track Of The Wolf nipples because their nipple flash holes are tiny, which is proper for revolver use. TOTW nipples are available in stainless or in hardened blued finish. I've examined orignial Colt nipples in mint condition, and the original Colt nipples have the exact same tiny flash holes as the TOTW replacements!

[@Kenneth-cf2eh]

sed it b4... say it again... ur channel is FKN GOLD ! ... BLACK FKN GOLD !!!

[@Everythingblackpowder]

Thank you

[@davefellhoelter1343]

On it! Got dextrin and gum Arabic with 90% IPA from past amp endeavors, just got old new lacquer gasket bond from a hardware store. kinda did this with an attempt to make my amp tougher working on cutting out the pucking and corning. Great THANKS for the new Project.

[@damaster77854]

This is essentially the same technology that many countries would experiment with again during the cold war. They were just calling it caseless ammo then.

[@0neDoomedSpaceMarine]

It's funny to me how I've grown increasingly dismissive of concepts like the H&K G11 with age, and then I'm so very appreciative of things like the Chassepotte rifle and Smith Carbine. They just make much more sense for their time periods than the SPIWs and ACRs did for their own.

[@hanelyp1]

With a difference in the primer.

[@randyg6231]

Really Enjoy your experiments !! Thank You !!

[@Everythingblackpowder]

Thank you

[@bloodypirategutszero8899]

Excellent video, I was thinking of trying this way out a while back, but never got around to it. Fun to watch someone else try 👍🏻

[@Everythingblackpowder]

Thank you

[@RicSpivey]

"but slightly less .." 🤣🤣 and hard agree. This seems like a pretty nice type of cartridge, I got a gun show to hit this weekend and I'm suspicious a new cap and ball might follow me home. I'll keep this setup in mind! More decisions

[@josephcormier5974]

Excellent sir very enjoyable and informative thank you for sharing this with us six stars brother

[@Everythingblackpowder]

Thank you

[@mattheide2775]

Y'all continue to impress me by putting the theories into practice. I'm starting to appreciate the impact gunpowder has made on history. Keep up the good work 👍

[@Everythingblackpowder]

Thank you

[@NW_Ranger]

Sir, sounds like once it is tuned that it will be a nice “London” model. All good stuff. Thank you for the video guys!

[@Everythingblackpowder]

It will be. Thank you

[@woodrowbrimm2805]

I made a bunch of Dextrin a while back when I tried screened powder .Didn't like the powder . Now I know how to use it up . dextrin is a glue made by roasting Corn Starch , also used when making Paper Cartridges .

[@crossencartridge6403]

I went through the same moisture issue when I first started working on these. Drying is definitely the key to making them perform.

[@Everythingblackpowder]

Thank you very much!

[@crossencartridge6403]

@@Everythingblackpowder you got way better numbers than I ever did. I'm using that shutzen crap

[@Everythingblackpowder]

Thank you. My 4F is mixed powders that give us Goex results or better. I don’t have much experience with scheutzen powder.

[@kenycharles8600]

Thank you for this presentation. The mistake and it's correction is valuable to note.

[@Everythingblackpowder]

Thank you

[@fosterprice5690]

Wow man, you are great (the crew must be pretty good too). Keep em coming!

[@Everythingblackpowder]

Thank you

[@greywuuf]

The nitro cellulose is intended to prevent the finsihed cartridges from absorbing moisture from the air. More or less important depending on your area .

[@greglaroche1753]

I forgot to add earlier that your heads up for premiering videos are very much appreciated.

[@Everythingblackpowder]

Glad to hear it

[@johnnybagofdoughnuts4193]

Love it. Another avenue of fun to this sport/hobby/passion/lifestyle/antique-muzzleloading-heritage-entwined-propellant

[@cedhome7945]

I think someone mentioned it earlier but throwing the gun back as you re cock the hammer was the old way to help get the old cap out of the works ( does look a bit Hollywood but worth a try )

[@Edmund_Mallory_Hardgrove]

What about using a food dehydrator? My oven doesn't go lower than 170 degrees. Also, why worry about the size of the powder if you're just going to compress it? It seems like it might take a step or two out of the process for milling powder. Why not just take it straight out of the ball mill and compress it?

[@jamesavery6015]

I’m thinking that granule size affects burn characteristics even when, “reasonably” compressed. I would think that you still need small voids between powder granules to effect consistency. The smaller 4F may be easily pressed to the point to where there is no/inconsistent space between granules leading to inconsistent velocities.

[@jamesdenton3692]

@@jamesavery6015 I'm thinking the more density ( to a point ) would aid thermal runaway , faster burn.

[@hanelyp1]

Sounds like an experiment is in order.

[@jamesavery6015]

@@jamesdenton3692 I think too much density will hamper the heat transfer to adjacent particles. I’m sure Jake will test it soon though.

[@jamesdenton3692]

@@jamesavery6015 Agreed , but I do not think Jake is anywhere near too dense mix yet , let the science begin .

[@alexm2833]

Duco cement is also the same glue. You can make your own too by disolving a small amount of smokeless powder in acetone, preferably single base smokeless.

[@adambarlow7787]

What is an example of single Base smokeless?

[@alexm2833]

​​​@@adambarlow7787many, accurate 4064 is one. They usually advertise it as double base if its a double base powder. Any smokeless will work for glue but if you get dissolved double base on your skin, you might get a bad headache. It can take a day to completely dissolve.

[@rockmclaughlin3199]

Finally thought you might have a video close to suck,,, but,,, once again y'all failed me and excelled. I have avoided the Hazard approach but really like to have drop in "reloads" for my .44/.36. Having a tin on me that I can reload after defending the chickens or cattle is my normal carry condition but I hate the residue from paper cartridges. So, the book is in the mail and "you" are responsible for burning through Crossen's in-stock kits. I "maybe" ordered on time to get either the .36 or .44 kit before he hit zero balance. Really great video and always appreciate your thorough approach

[@Everythingblackpowder]

Thank you!

[@jeffborden9529]

Oh boy i learned somthing today :-) never knew about these cartridges. Always thought they only used paper cartridges. Thanks for the video :-)

[@Everythingblackpowder]

You bet

[@MuzzleloaderPoland]

Maybe next time video about homemade percussion caps? Especially H48 composition? I’m using it regularly and they are cheap and great alternative for hard to buy commercial one.

[@hekpacobctac616]

I wanted to suggest you 4mm silicon caps, then realised that you would be you would be better knowing about them

[@MuzzleloaderPoland]

@@hekpacobctac616 im making mine with tap-o-cap and aluminum cans, they work outstanding because they eject nipple right away and there is no jams. 1 can gives me 85 cups. I’m using slightly modified H48 with Alu powder for better ignition, and shellac (with isopropyl alcohol) for binding and waterproofing composition.

[@erik_dk842]

Can you buy the chemicals needed for H48 in Poland?

[@MuzzleloaderPoland]

@@erik_dk842yes, chlorates if you have company, or ingredients to make some from bleach as consumer.

[@hekpacobctac616]

@erik_dk842 yeah, exactly, where you getting h48?

[@andyd2960]

Man this is awesome stuff. Id kinda like to see a "pyrodex" type of charge for a rifle using your best powder. Muzzleloader for deer starts tomorrow morning where I live and I carry around two little pre-measured containers but pellets are very appealing to me. Quicker reload and less chance of spillage under the brutal pressures of getting the rifle back in action for a deer that won't quit.

[@jamesdenton3692]

I'd like to see some BP pellets as well! .Wonder how the compressed pucks "burn'?

[@steveshoemaker6347]

I like the Compressed Powder Cartridges.......Thank you Jake and Derek..... Old F-4 pilot Shoe🇺🇸

[@Everythingblackpowder]

Thank you

[@strider04]

the hazard powder company used to be in a town right near me, only 30 minutes away this is so cool to learn about

[@joesal8097]

In high humidity environments I notice the caps pick up humidity in short time spans. I used to notch the nipples so the pressure pushes the caps upward when fired. I finally settled on rubber rings to just keep them in place and keep the primer composition dry. I can leave the caps on for days when the seals hold. One thing i noticed is the lead bullets tend to "stick" to the chambers more when left for days. This can lead to higher chamber pressures. I load a little lighter for long durations.

[@PalKrammer]

One of your best videos. Nice ...clarification... of paper usage at 33:07 - LOL

[@dkstudioart]

I made some paper cartridges this morning, haven't tried them yet but I'm confident they'll work but they do take an awfully long time to put together.

[@kirkboswell2575]

Interesting! I've checked Crossen's site two or three times, and each time he was out of what I was interested in. Looks like I need to check more regularly 😊.

[@chemistryofquestionablequa6252]

You can 3D print your own, that's how they're made. Plus if you have a printer there's a whole world of other cool stuff you can make.

[@matthewtmarfield7861]

My "First Real Sixshooter" was a Lyman / Remington NMA .44; with it, I bought a can of Pyrodex-P, CCI Caps, and a LEE .451 RB Mould. I have no idea how many hundreds of roundballs I blew out of that. I eventually made paper cartridges using nitrated newspaper, 30gr charge, and the roundball. I think that the Nitrocellulose Lacquer would've worked well with those paper cartridges. Your Hazard Cartridges look great; a Gang Mouldfor the powder is needful, though. Fun video!

[@hekpacobctac616]

This is exactly what I said about compressed powder pellets with bullets.

[@sandroventania782]

Jake, have you tried taking the powder out of the mill and pressing it into a pallet with a hole in the middle? The hole in the middle is essential for progressive burning. Pyrodex pellets do not appear to be pressed grains.

[@Everythingblackpowder]

I have not

[@jamesdenton3692]

For sure something to try .

[@thatsthewayitgoes9]

Don’t know if true, but I heard once that in the early silent film movies the cowboys could be seen raising their revolver pointing straight up over their head while cocking it… seems usually whole galloping at full run. Some one told me the ‘old timers’ did this to let the cap fall out . Have no idea if true, but cool tale

[@mkultraification]

Cool stuff. These are neat from a historical standpoint, and I may get a set of the molds just for that, but I think I'll stick with paper cartridges for match work.

[@gunsnwater2668]

I wonder how incorporating the dextrose in the ball mill would work? Then puck and grind. Great video. Thanks for sharing.

[@sasquatch885]

I got the same two sets of molds a couple months ago. I’ve made about 100 of each so far, I’m retired. I wondered if you had any tips on making them. You didn’t disappoint.👍🏻

[@Everythingblackpowder]

Glad to hear it

[@robertlombardo8437]

Would something like this be a big enough round and charge to fire out of something like a rifle or a carbine? Like maybe a Baker or a Hawkins? The idea of just being able to ram and go is just so attractive.

[@The10mmcure]

There was a Mexican outlaw, I can't remember if it was Juaquin Murrieta or another one, but he had a habit of letting his revolver ride up when he fired, to where it's pointing up at 90 degrees, and take a big stomping leap forward. Then he would kind if give it a shake when he took aim again. That was to deal with cap jams.

[@ianxtreem]

Great video! I have never achieved your level of performance and I often wonder if it has to do with drying. Perhaps you could elaborate on your powder drying process or do some experiments sometime. Thanks again for another excellent and entertaining video.

[@uwepolifka4583]

30 years ago I used compressed BP pellets in my Tryon Rifle and I had the same problem. Complete pellets don´t burn well. I had to break the pellets to normal powder again and it works.

[@russbilzing5348]

Do you think that waterproofing a cigarette paper cartridge would suffice to 'toughen' it up a tad?

[@Everythingblackpowder]

Probably

[@russbilzing5348]

@@Everythingblackpowder Thanx

[@tjfritts9013]

Good vid. Might be my "purist" side showing through, but I've yet to find any idea like this that 1, works consistently, 2, doesn't end up just being a sidehobby of its own. From this to making my own paper cartridges, it all ends up being more hassle than it's worth to create inconsistent results. I still get better results with flask, ball, cap. On days when I really want to wring out the consistency, a powder measure to go that extra mile. Yes, it's "slow" to reload, but if you wanna shoot crazy, miss a lot, and reload real fast so you can rely on the next round rather than the one in the pipe, get a Glock. Never really felt like C&B revolvers were really made for the "go out and shoot 400+ rounds in an hour" piece. It's a slower pace that, frankly, goads you to actually hit what you're aiming at because a reload IS slower. So, cool product, glad somebody's thinking, but it's not my style. Already figured out I don't need a rapid reload because I'm just shooting paper and it doesn't shoot back.

[@joeyhardin1288]

Thank you. When the P. Pellets came out, I thought it was going to be great. At 25 yards, I couldn't hit the paper. I use 80 grains of B.P. and no matter what I shove down the tube will go in a 1" group. Stupid P. Pellets. EDIT: Rifle w/2 (50/50) pellets.

[@flintcoat2596]

On the cap difficulties, I would take a look at the flash hole diameter. If the cap jams were more prevalent with the conical bullets, as opposed the round ball, the flash hole diameter would be the first thing I would look at. The conical bullets, being heavier, would allow pressure to rise more at the cap nipple junction. I know, new gun. Just a little bit of experience from years ago.

[@harrypeterson9287]

I'd be real careful about using an oven, especially gas stoves. Some tend to drastically overshoot the peak temp before clicking off.

[@b0rd3n]

yes but from the low temp up to 800+ (BP ignition temp)? Is it that much you figure? it would worry me just cooking anything if that was the case...

[@harrypeterson9287]

@@b0rd3n Enough to curl and char butcher paper when trying to defrost some venison on the lowest setting. 800F? Probably not, but I'd let it preheat first and shut it off before putting the BP in just to stay on the safe side.

[@TUCOtheratt]

That's a pretty cool alternative to the tradition method. How do you like that new chronograph? Looks like it get's every shot.

[@Everythingblackpowder]

The Garmin is Bitchin

[@thomasgarrison3949]

Remember the old saying: "Keep Your Powder Dry". You might have had less cap jams with a Pietta 1858 Remington New Model Army .44 caliber Black Powder Revolver. I have had very few cap jams with mine.

[@Everythingblackpowder]

This gun just needs the standard tune up I give to all of my cap and ball pistols.

[@DH-xw6jp]

​@@Everythingblackpowdercan we get a video on how you prefer to tune a cap and ball?

[@nono-jj9rr]

​@@DH-xw6jp I second this motion!

[@skippymctwist7]

I wonder if a star plate ment for fireworks could work. Basically one plate with holes of a specific diameter, and a matching plate with pins to compress powder into the holes (in a hydraulic press). Firework stars are usually pressed to be rock hard from meal with binder, but with reduced pressure and 4F/dextrin it could probably still work. They would come out as cylindrical pellets, probably much like the pyrodex ones without the hole in the middle. It would allow you to make upwards of 50ish at a time, and it should only take a couple minutes per fill (provided they do not fall apart on extraction). Check out Ned Gorski's videos on how to pump stars with a plate on KZbin and see if there could be something there!

[@Everythingblackpowder]

Thank you. I’ll check it out

[@TheCuzMan]

Nicely done as always. Shame they are sold out. Have a great weekend.

[@anthonyberger225]

Looks like a good Idea I'm going to be getting me some of them great video 👍👍👍👍👍

[@nebojsaj9718]

As usual, great video. Thank you.

[@Everythingblackpowder]

Thank you

[@euroman12000]

I think you should seriously open your own company producing bp. See if it's complicated with licenses and insurance....

[@northmanlogging2769]

I bet a guy could make a set of jaws for a bullet mold, do six at a time, no hose clamps... being the guy with a machine shop... I should think about this a little longer As a geetar guy, the Nitro Lacquers take weeks to cure on a guitar, but then were putting a lot more lacquer on a guitar... though it still holds the moisture very well.

[@TomGellos]

Informative presentation, nice

[@Everythingblackpowder]

Thank you

[@danielfry3039]

G'day, can you do a video on upgrades or work you do to any of your blackpowder pistols. Reliability/ Performance. Please and thanyou.

[@Everythingblackpowder]

I would love to but KZbin is handing out strikes for that kind of content

[@danielfry3039]

Okay,, all good. Just about to get a 1858 new army (uberti). Cheers

[@Everythingblackpowder]

Mike Belivue had some videos on this topic but KZbin took them down for “Modifying a firearm”

[@greywuuf]

I have used nitro shellac to water proof paper cartridges. Seems to work well.

[@wolfpack1384]

Gluing the bullet to the powder cone, I think some of the glue soaked into some of the powder and that’s why when you went with loading the cone then the bullet separate I think thats why the reading was higher and more consistent. Just guessing not sure if that’s the reason but makes sense

[@larrycrum7060]

Great vid as always. You should make a vid of you fine tuning your navy.

[@Everythingblackpowder]

I would love too but KZbin takes a dim view of “Modifying firearms”

[@robertlewis8295]

I'm really interested in trying the 58 caliber version with a minieball in my 1853 Enfield. Want to see how a mad minute compares between a paper cartridge and the hazard cartridges

[@davisrs1]

Nitrocellulose = smokeless powder! Just keep trying more coating and less powder!🤣 Keep up the good work!

[@lewjones7272]

You make a good show-I like to think you are a little like me except you are smarter , more persistent, you keep records ,you are a better shot ,you do not flinch,and your better looking!

[@Everythingblackpowder]

😂 well thank you

[@wyatesbob]

Cool video on the making and use of it. Wondering about the glue/sealer on paper cartridges now.

[@randomidiot8142]

I wonder how many people would try these, have poor initial results, and never try them again. Asking others why and how probably drives people nuts when I start digging into the meat and potatoes of little issues. No affiliation but thanks for giving them a fair shake. Any chance you would try to make your own pellets for faster rifle reloads?

[@Everythingblackpowder]

It hadn’t crossed my mind but that’s an interesting idea

[@PwntifexMaximus]

I thought about making model rockets the same way. It hsould give great (and consistent) density as long as you compress them uniformly.

[@Godwh1sperer]

As a side effect of all this wonderful experimentation, we see you shoot 970 fps average with a 80gr roundball and 17.5gr of your FFFF in a .36 I really wanted to see your powder perform with a .36 roundball, so this was very welcome! Was this the "average leftover FFFF" ?

[@Everythingblackpowder]

Thank you. Yes mix 4F that averages I between Goex and Swiss

[@Godwh1sperer]

@@Everythingblackpowder Thanks for that, I suspected as much. Wonderful leftovers!

[@bobbyrobinson757]

Interesting video, never knew they made cartridges this way. Guess I’m behind (or in front ) of the times. Ha ha. Anyway I enjoyed the video and learned from it

[@Everythingblackpowder]

Glad to hear it. Thank you

[@thompsonjerry3412]

Maybe put a hole through the mold like pyrodex to help the burn?

[@z5m1k3]

Great video. In your pro vs con between Hazard cartridges and paper cartridges, would using diluted nitrocellulose glue to coat a paper cartridge offer the strengths of both types? Improved resiliency and waterproofing of the Hazard with the consistency and fast production of paper cartridges? If I waterproof a paper cartridge this way, does that mean I no longer have to nitrate the paper beforehand since the glue itself is also flammable?

[@Everythingblackpowder]

I haven’t tried coating a paper cartridge. I’ll have to give that a try

[@jertres2887]

Maybe a light spray with acetone diluted

[@D5quared91]

Damn, that’s easily 9x18mm Makarov PM energies. Not bad for a little .36 Colt’s Revolving Belt Pistol of Naval Caliber!!

[@PalKrammer]

At 21:45was that a hangfire? For all those shots there was a noticeable delay between the cap strike and the charge going off. Oh, and 26:04, LOL. Pyrodex is just wrong. For the cap jams, do you just need a smaller diameter cap to keep it on the nipple?

[@woodrowbrimm2805]

I've got 2 Pietta revolvers and both had issues with cap jams .I found a Blackie Thomas video where he filed a groove in the top of the Cone (Nipples) and tried it on both of my revolvers . I now have almost no cap jams except with my home made caps which are still a work in progress. I use an old Food Dehydrator for drying nitrated coffee filters maybe it would also work for this.

[@blackriflex39]

off topic but you mention giving your new 1851 navy a tune up .. made me think about my dads 1858 cartridge conversion and how the trigger is super heavy do you have any videos on "tuning " these replicas? if not would you please make a video... thanks man ...

[@Everythingblackpowder]

I would love too but KZbin is on the warpath about “modifying firearms” They have been striking down Channels over it

[@blackriflex39]

@@Everythingblackpowder damn communist! lol thanks anyway ....

[@martingindulis5310]

Thank you Jake very helpful.

[@Everythingblackpowder]

Thank you

[@Dwarvenchef]

How about a dehydrator?

[@Everythingblackpowder]

I’m that would work just fine

[@brettanderson6743]

I wonder if you add the dextrin and glazed the powder for a short time you would still get it to work? Obviously add the water later.

[@chasebh89]

Ha when I watched the original video I thought "there's gotta be a better way to dry them out to mass produce" The oven sure would work. I wet wash my brass and used to set them on the stovetop on low heat to dry out the insides

[@youngbloodbear9662]

Do you think inconsistencies in the coating and in that powder rim rubbing off are affecting the consistency? Id be curious to see some testing on pushing the limits on that nitrocellulose coat

[@erasgonehistoricalmolds2400]

Does gun smoke affect the operation of your little chronograph? I thinking of buying one.

[@Everythingblackpowder]

@@erasgonehistoricalmolds2400 not in the slightest. It works like a charm

[@d3faulted2]

What about adding the dextrin to the black powder as your milling it. Then packing it directly into those molds right out of the ball mill? it'd be an interesting experiment. I'm wondering if the inconsistency is that, even if it looks fully incorporated....it isn't. Since dextrin is a form of carbohydrate, i wonder what it's effect would be if added as a contaminant directly to the black powder. Incorporate it into the mix. Like 77-13-9-1 or something like that.

[@Everythingblackpowder]

I think it would burn very slow. Much like a model rocket engine

[@bobkoroua]

You should drill a line of holes in a bit of timber that you can stand the bullets in a row, you could cut the time down dramatically.

[@robertcole9391]

Why not use an Excalibur food dehydrator? After an hour, rotate the trays 180 degrees and dry again for another hour. (Rotate by just spinning the parchment paper 180). Your thoughts?

[@Everythingblackpowder]

I don’t have one. Other than that, I’m sure that would work fine

[@daveleigh4359]

Instead of hand pressure pressed plugs of 3f, what if you were to make high pressure plugs of the right size when pucking? Will a high density plug work?

[@Everythingblackpowder]

I don’t think so. I think it would burn very slow like a rocket motor

[@daveleigh4359]

@@Everythingblackpowder I have a hunch about why some carbon source ( wood) is better that others and I’m planning an experiment. Have you found a wood that really sucks?

[@jamesdenton3692]

Like to see that to.

[@omf2007]

Fun video! Thank you.

[@Schlachtschule]

Ha, great timing, Jake, I just put up a video about this!

[@ricktaylor5744]

Interesting. Thank you Jake

[@Everythingblackpowder]

Thank you

[@Zigge]

Sooo are you gonna show us how to make caps from scratch soon? :-)

[@Everythingblackpowder]

If you want

[@Zigge]

@@Everythingblackpowder please if you can. Caps are scarce here in Europe at the moment. Everything is going to the war.

[@PalKrammer]

@@EverythingblackpowderI think quite a few of us would welcome that.

[@tjh44961]

In every view of the completed cartridges I saw in the video, I didn't see any lube on the bullets, and didn't see you add any on top of the cylinder after loading. Did you use any, and if not, might that have brought down your ES/SD a bit? Just a thought. Would be interesting to make up some of these for the 1859 Sharps, too.

[@Everythingblackpowder]

I did not use any lube on these