Hazbin Hotel First Impressions (Episodes 1 and 2)

[@SarcasticChorus]

First two Hazbin Episodes are available at a24films.com you just have to pay for them.

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

Love your content man❤❤❤❤❤

[@theboi261]

Pir8's life for me

[@brad.1031]

Btw its like 6 dollars if you're wondering

[@thedotgiver2820]

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[@notimeforcreativenamesjust3034]

Damn this is a *Rought* start.

[@wrantheim6777]

I'm curious. Charlie didn't see her mother in 7 years and Alastor was gone for 7 years. Either the writers just like the number 7 or something important happened 7 years ago.

[@mr.harmuzad4201]

They are probably going to do something weird like, plot twist! Rosie IS Lilith!

[@thelordoflemonz]

Yeah, I caught that too. I get the distinct feeling that Alastor is in some way connected to Lilith.

[@aaunyea4799]

It connects to a plot twist

[@heiltotheking]

7 has major biblical significance. So it most likely has symbolism related to heaven in some way.

[@johanstenfelt1206]

Hm, interesting.

[@somerelativleyuninterestin4763]

Imma be real, if it weren’t for the leaks I wouldn’t be checking it out. Vox and Alastor’s song actually made me far more interested in the show than any of the marketing did

[@AlexN5597]

Facts, that Vox and Alastor vid DEFINITELY got me more hyped for the show ha

[@tobiasthedoggo710]

Same

[@bellingtoned]

Same

[@CalliNightmare]

Same dude. It was 🔥

[@aaunyea4799]

Yep, because all they advertised was 'oh new show, but it has BOARDWAY ACTORS so you should watch"

[@viveleshistoires4874]

To be completely fair, my favourite adult animated show ever, Bojack Horseman, had a rough first _season_ and I still adore the show so, you can still have hope.

[@AllyGatorAnimator]

Bojack made me much more willing to give shows a chance for longer/go back to shows I'd originally not gelled with because of how rough the first episodes were. Like, watching episode 1 you would never imagine how amazing of a show it would become.

[@thema1998]

The first season of BoJack Horseman has a notoriously awful beginning before getting good mid-season. Hazbin Hotel could have a turnaround too!

[@T_Teobokki]

God, Bojack Horseman is THE perfect example of how to do an adult show. An adult show doesn't have to be just gore and swearing and sex, I love when they touch dark and psychological concepts in ways probably no kid or teen would completely understand

[@IsaoSoichiro]

Agree!! Although the 1st EP was definitely the hardest for me. It's funny how a show that played a part in me finally starting therapy and changing my life is one that I would have given up on immediately if I wasn't told how great it got lol

[@summerspook]

I completely agree! I almost gave up after barely managing to finish season 1, but a friend told me to continue and it was absolutely worth it. It's one of my favorite adult cartoons.

[@SophieTheSarcastic]

Okay so I actually really like that Val switches accents (also that’s not British that’s a Spanish accent) because he’s already been confirmed to be very manipulative, so it’s clever that the accent changes with his personality. When he’s angry (sometimes) and/or wants to be charming with Vox or Angel, he uses the sultry Spanish, when he doesn’t give a shit, he uses his natural American accent.

[@Featheryfaith7]

That's because Val is half Mexican and Italian. He has to be or this show wouldn't be making anymore sense.

[@zvzoomin807]

Ngl when Vox did it, I at first thought it felt a little weird but then I thought about it and as someone who is Mexican American, when I talk really fast my hispanic accent shows but when I may be more serious it'll go away so I'd say it's pretty consistent

[@Featheryfaith7]

@@zvzoomin807 I thought he sounded Italian, not Mexican. I didnt know until afterwards. Let me guess: Val lied about his ethnicity and nationality. Hmm sounds right. My dad did that to my mother.

[@nari.oh.356]

His VA is Puerto Rican so I'd like to think Val is Puerto Rican.

[@sailorstar3148]

@@Featheryfaith7 No Val is just Hispanic

[@thyweebhub]

I knew this was going to be a rough start from the get got, new entire voice cast, gives off a more cartoony vibe surprisingly more than the pilot

[@valentinkambushev4968]

Not to mention having to live up to Helluva boss's level of emotional investment.

[@Crowned_Hearts]

@@valentinkambushev4968 I dont know if Helluva Boss was planned as a side project or not but right now Hazbin Hotel is the side project and Helluva Boss is the main one. I am just afraid that they'll neglect Helluva Boss for Hazbin Hotel.

[@phoenixthewolf6301]

@@Crowned_Hearts I mean it’s two separate teams working on it

[@Crowned_Hearts]

@@phoenixthewolf6301 The main upper management is the same no? Writer and what not

[@johanstenfelt1206]

@@Crowned_Hearts Helluva Boss was supposed to be a Spin-off Show for Hazbin Hotel.

[@hexellent0324]

Also I agree with you about the intro. Saying "the extermination is to prevent hell from dethroning heaven" so early on is ridiculous when it's supposed to be a TWIST. Why does Charlie act so surprised when Adam refuses to let demons ascend when SHE SAID IN THE OPENING that those who were deemed "sinners"/who acted outside of the will of god were never meant to gain power or influence. If she actually bought the "overpopulation" excuse, THEN her plan would actually make sense because overpopulation is an issue of SPACE (which hell presumably has little of and heaven presumably has a lot of), while "undesirables can never gain strength in numbers" is about PEOPLE and POWER.

[@SleonHikari]

I mean considerin how picky heaven seems to be when it comes to what counts as a sinner, the number problem could be alot more than initially mention. In that because heaven is rigged to the point of makin heavens denizens numbers become extremely outmatched by hell, and also the fact that from lutes explanation of angels believin they make No mistakes, would have them puttin the number imbalanced to be blamed Solely on hell and its sinners, thus extermination. Ie, theyd rather murder a bunch of sinners than admit they've been too extreme on who they considered to be worthy of goin to heaven cause theyd have to admit they're wrong and are the reason heavens numbers are low and hells is stupid high.

[@AdanSolas]

Even if she genuinely believes in the overpopulation issue, her plan doesn’t make sense. Sending people to heaven wouldn't address the problem; in fact, it undermines the concept of eternal punishment in Hell if one can simply escape to Heaven. Moreover, it fails to clarify why Heaven would be concerned about Hell's overpopulation to the extent of conducting regular clean-up missions. Additionally, considering that Heaven might be smaller than Hell, the perpetual cycle of people dying on Earth suggests that the overpopulation will be a constant problem for everyone.

[@lazylass2309]

If anything, this just makes heaven also one note. The big bad they need to crush. Meaning there isn't anything to gain at all in Charlie's attempts. If this ends with Charlie taking place of God, then I'm not sure how ima take this

[@SleonHikari]

Also i wanted to add, i just realized that this aldo would explain how some exterminators are determined to eradicate so many sinners. Like imagine growin up in heaven with the propoganda that not only are angels perfect and never make mistakes, but comin to the conclusions that the numbers are low is cause of Hells influence rather than their own broken system of what they consider innocent. Rally enough angels and you get a group that feels 'righteous' on erasin these sinners that have quote 'skewed the balance' even though by all accounts, its in their control that the numbers are like this. Add to the fact that in their eyes, the sinners 'dared' to fight back against their righteous crusade, and you have the current mess of the angels ampin up the genocide. Now im not sayin hells completely innocent here. After all we have the bit about lilith growin and thrivin her kingdom which we dont kno How that works and other weird stuff like where the hell is Eve, the second bride of Adam that I guess they're not together since in his schpeal he mentioned him tryin to date other angels, so then where is she? But point still stands. Genocide the sinners instead of admittin faults in the system.

[@johanstenfelt1206]

Hm, fair point.

[@corynnightshade9049]

To be fair, it was confirmed that aside from visual changes, the Pilot is canon. Edit: Livestreams. Outside Sources. Quite a majority of other Content Creators have stated this while sourcing a livestream that I believe came out a few months ago. That is where this information comes from.

[@Rachel-lo6if]

Yes, but pilots are like character's in Instagram accounts- "fun, but [like] cats, can be ignored at your leisure"

[@Thelastmanalive565]

⁠@@Rachel-lo6iflike loona and her Syphilis. Mentioned once and never again and people just pretend it Dosent exist

[@StrawberrySundaeSunday]

@@Rachel-lo6if I disagree, most pilots for shows are indeed intended to be a start to the show so I don't think the cannon should be ignored.

[@AmityAugustine]

Could I have a source on the Pilot being canon? I had no idea Vivienne or Spindle Horse confirmed it was.

[@Sheoll6]

It's literally not, they've said that Episode 1 is the new retelling of the Pilot, meaning that the Pilot is not canon anymore It can't be canon if it shows stuff like Lilith and Charlie talking when in the actual canon Lilith has been missing for 7 years

[@im_bored_hi_]

I just love that Adam’s favorite food is ribs. Since, you know, Eve was made from one of his ribs.

[@chordsofsteel-i4j]

Eve is goated fr she should live heaven and join hell

[@jackapps2126]

True angels don’t eat murdered animals.

[@artisanaul]

vegan, point and laugh@@jackapps2126

[@Thebatcavepetfriendlybakery]

I imagine you havent seen the show lmao ​@jackapps2126

[@salofex8252]

@@jackapps2126 shut up

[@metalskulkbanepl161]

The only thing that would make this start even more rough if it was overshadowed by some KZbinr paying 50K for a kinky video of Charlie and his Avatar.

[@justmilky5358]

Wait, did that actually happen-

[@metalskulkbanepl161]

@@justmilky5358 His name is verbalase. The video itself is... let's say it's very soft porn. Charlie drools over him, chases, ties him to bed, and then puts on sexy lingerie. Curtains right before anything happens.

[@falconeshield]

Wait what what

[@curple3]

For context: You guys know the beatbox guy that did Tetris Beatbox and those animated pop culture character beatbox battles, Verbalase? Yeah, he did a 50k commission of an NSFW animation featuring him and Charlie

[@valentinkambushev4968]

@@curple3 surprisingly, I am not shocked at all. I have spent so much time on the Internet that I have accepted that the NSFW can not be stopped.

[@SilverSoldier25]

I feel like that whole intro about Hell's formation is... too perfect. Like it paints both Lucifer and Lillith in too good of a light and the Angels in too bad of one. Granted, we haven't seen any other angels outside of Adam and his Executioners and they all suck but I can't help but think Charlie doesn't have the whole story and that will come into play later.

[@Skladak_Killer_98]

Yea, something is fishy about Lilith, I believe she will be a villain in later parts of the story

[@thelordoflemonz]

Adam's line about "The Rules being Black and White" seems a bit suss as well. I get the distinct feeling that Adam is either acting without the knowledge of his superiors. Also, I get the sense that Lucifer might very well be depressed due to what he did, but Lilith might be using this whole situation to her advantage. Almost like a bitter ex-lover wanting to stick it to her old boyfriend.

[@bluesoda6379]

​@@Skladak_Killer_98the intro also puts great emphasis on Lilith at some points. Maybe she wrote the book?

[@chichiro8625]

Spoiler warning from leaks: There will be members in heaven who arents assholes. For example Emily. I think it will be more complex when we watch more

[@mysterythekitsune2988]

Fool Charlie and then show is just as bad the rest that would wear hurt charlie.@@Skladak_Killer_98

[@berilsevvalbekret772]

Honestly I would love to see Valentino trying to shoot the Hotel and just get curbstomp by Charlie. A great way to show Charlie's overwhelming power. Edit; Holy Shit guys what are ya'll doing here O.O

[@DrDeadsy42]

I imagine that Valentino's guns are filled with angelic bullets. I.e., they can actually kill.

[@shiroyasha9623]

​@@DrDeadsy42 Charlie is half angel i don't think blessed bullets make that big of a difference

[@misterm7486]

⁠@@robloxplayer0003wdym??? Lucifer isnt the son of god. But other than that i agree

[@no_0riginality937]

Or Alastor can just shoo him away like he did with Sir Pentious xD. I am curious to see what is Charlie capable of but i feel she normally keeps her powers in check

[@FurKid_the_Gg_roo_99]

Yeah, but as someone who hasn't seen the series yet, I'm kinda worried about the comment of "Val being stupid" at 19:53 ; we already have multiple silly villains & the dude is S/Aing Angel & he's "being used for laughs to this extent!!" Moreover, it doesn't help that fan works & even some older Pilot stuff (I.E the Angel Dust Dirty Healings comic & the iffy Insta accounts) made me feel like he would've been more serious; sure, the show is obviously separate from the fans' ideas on it, but when you make Angel's abusive controlling overlord dude into a goofy douche like everyone else, it's gonna lose me. *Let's just hope that Valentino gets to have more serious & threatening moments & such, & not let any headcanons make us negative to the show as opposed to looking at it for what it is.*

[@jacobb4795]

I never thought sir pentious would join the hotel. Thinking back a few years ago I just assumed he’d be a recurring villain. But this has potential to be fun. I can’t wait to see where it goes.

[@DrDeadsy42]

I expected it to happen, only not so soon, and if you look at the trading cards and the voice casting, you can make a logical prediction of what's about to happen to Sir Pent.

[@jacobb4795]

@@DrDeadsy42 I don’t think I do. But it should be interesting to see what happens

[@Floweramon]

He wasn't originally supposed to, but he was such a popular character that they added him. I have mixed feelings because unless he gets put in season two that means we might not get Baxter (he seems to be filling the role that Baxter would have filled)

[@brysonhillman8723]

He was originally a villain in the pilot, but has became one of the members of Hazbin Hotel in the series after his redemption.

[@danigaming_]

Ima be real I thought Sir Pentious was gonna pull a team rocket or smth but him joining the hotel to me somehow makes sense

[@madjackgamingandfitness498]

I personally thought “maybe I’m just too old for this humor now.” The years that have gone by since the pilot, oh boy.

[@hexellent0324]

I agree with pretty much everything you've said here, ESPECIALLY with the whole "dragging out the joke" stuff. Adam being a dudebro went on WAYYYY to long, especially since it was mostly him talking to himself. For me, dudebro jokes are funny when the bro in question is playing off a straightman. They tried to do that here, but it was mostly just Charlie stuttering and mugging for the camera instead of actually talking and bouncing off of him. And like you said, there are too many jokes where the punchline is that something unfunny is being repeated. I also dislike the way Adam was characterized in the first place. Like, I get the point that it's supposed to be "angels are just as bad as sinners, they just have more power!!" but like the point of the "x is just as bad as y" trope is that it's supposed to be a SURPRISE. It would've been so much better if the angels appeared well mannered before revealing their cruelty. It would also show how those in power weaponize aesthetics to justify persecution. "See, we don't act crass like THOSE guys, so we're clearly superior!" It would ALSO make the Angels more threatening if they were smug and distant in their cruelty instead of revelling in it like LITERALLY EVERY OTHER VILLAIN IN THE SHOW

[@AdanSolas]

But the Angels *aren’t* as bad as the Sinners, as far as we can tell. Also, Angels aren’t the people that make it into Heaven, those would be the Heavenly equivalents of Sinners, and *they* would be the ones expected to be “perfect” and whatnot. Much like Demons born in Hell like Charlie can be nice and friendly, Angels created in Heaven can be crass like Adam. At the end of the day, Hell is a punishment for *humans* and “fallen” Angelic beings. Adam and the Exterminators are well within their rights to act like they do.

[@AndreiLiciniuTarau]

Yeah, Adam dragged it out too long and at this point seemed like an annoying third rate scumbag rather than a Villain. It would have been great If he was a bit salty about his and Lilith relationship and took it a bit out on Charlie(like comparing her to Lilith). His general felt like a decent Villain however, not the Best but decent(knew how to put Charlie down with a few words). The cherubs were better presented( like willing to help people but only for their own selfinterest and don't care If the person they tried to save is really good or not, because for them everything goes as long as their job is fullfilled

[@DrDeadsy42]

You can't say what any character "is supposed" to be or do, as long as it's not your story. I get, you mean that, if it were your story, you'd spin it that way. But not everyone writes his stories the same way. There's just no right or wrong here, just you like the plot, or you don't.

[@AndreiLiciniuTarau]

@@DrDeadsy42 You're right about that. Sorry of I offended, just personal opinion. The songs were really great, favorite part of the episodes.

[@hexellent0324]

@DrDeadsy42 I'm saying Vivziepop failed in what she set out to do lol. "X is acutally just as bad as y" as the moral conclusion in your narrative needs to be built up to instead of explicitly stated at th beginning because it allows the watcher to go on the same journey as the characters. We can tell based on the trailers that the conclusion of the narrative is Charlie abandoning her redemption plot in favor of a war with Heaven, which means at some point she must conclude "Angels are cruel and have no interest in helping us, we must emancipate ourselves forcefully". Anyone with half a brain who watched Adam's whole display would come to the conclusion instantly because HE SAYS HIS WHOLE DEAL OUT LOUD So even if you haven't watched the spoiler-y trailer you'd know what the "plot twist" is going to be and are waiting for Charlie to catch up and release her efforts are fruitless. This is boring and completely defeats the point of having Charlie need a change of heart in the first place instead of the war on heaven being the plan from the beginning. Vivzie wanted a perspective shifting revelation and she failed :]

[@0x13horizon4]

I rlly enjoyed Nifty’s character introduction, that camera joke really landed for me

[@troyhagerty6259]

There's a reason why all of the voice cast have such good speaking/singing voices: Most of them are Broadway-caliber performers. Adam/Sir Pentious: Alex Brightman - Beetlejuice Charlie: Erika Henningsen - Mean Girls, Les Miserables Vaggie: Stephanie Beatriz - Encanto, In the Heights Husk: Keith David - Hot Feet Carmilla Carmine: Dapne Rubin-Vega - RENT, In the Heights Valentino: Joel Perez - Jesus Christ Superstar As a musical theater nerd, this cast absolutely blew me away!

[@josesosa3337]

Cool

[@coleyblossoms1051]

Don't forget that Keith David was the original voice for Dr. Facilier in Disney's Princess and the Frog, and Vox was voiced by Christian Borle who was in Legally Blonde, Falsettos etc. The amount of vocal talent in this show is just staggering!

[@0x13horizon4]

Charlie’s pilot song was really perfect as an introduction to her plan and motivations and why the audience should care. It did everything right and was beautifully animated. I’m still very interested in the series but it’s a real shame the first episode fell as flat as it did

[@kama62877]

Just waiting for the Lucifer episode and I am PRAYING they show how powerful Charlie is. I like Alastor as a character but I feel like we only see him as this unstoppable powerful overlord 24/7 when he’s just one of the hundreds of overlords? Above overlords are Goetia, the sins, Charlie and Lilith then Lucifer, but Charlie acts like a cliche sinner and never shows any power. I really hope they show her power because she’s probably 50x more powerful than alastor, maybe even more

[@chilliicecream5456]

I think that’s the point. Alastor is 100% on guard at all times, shown by his smile. He believes smiling to be a show of strength, so the fact that he never drops his is alluding to how he constantly broadcasts how strong he is and how he wants everyone to know it.

[@liss777.]

@@chilliicecream5456wait so is he able to frown and not smile?

[@chilliicecream5456]

@@liss777. Yes, he just chooses not to because he believes in smiling to demonstrate strength, and he knows it scares people or gets under their skin

[@cassiushellsin6243]

Alastor is known for killing other overlords, so him being this “unstoppable” force of nature is kinda the whole point. And they confirmed that the Pilot IS canon.

[@AndreiLiciniuTarau]

I really hope we see Charlie's true potential. She should be classified as a nephalem( angel-demon hybrid) that should be stronger than most angels and demons. Especially since She is the offspring of Lucifer(archangel, one of the strongest angels) and Lilith(the mother of all demons and the first demon). In my opinion She should be able to even equal or even beat Lucifer at full power/maturity.

[@cassiushellsin6243]

Once again, Vivziepop’s problem is pacing and trying to do WAAAYY too much with in one episode, just like in Helluva Boss. I honestly thought the whole “sir Pensious is a spy” would last wayyy longer, maybe all throughout Season 1 But it’s dropped in the same episode. EDIT: thinking back on it, Charlie forgiving him even after finding out he was a spy REALLY speaks volumes of her character, and the first bit of true sympathy Sir Pensious has probably ever felt, finally finding a place where he feels welcomed. Episode 4 is the best by far. I take back what I said, this shit’s good, still clunky, but it’s way better and better by the episode.

[@btschannel3667]

Lol did you watch the episode The pacing from the first episode to the second one we're really good

[@DrDeadsy42]

True, I expected his uncovering to happen way slower. But I see another development for Sir Pent coming along, which means, we better not get too used to him.

[@sailorstar3148]

The fact that Pen failed that fast as a spy was sad, but also kind of funny but I also wish that I could’ve lasted longer

[@cassiushellsin6243]

@@btschannel3667 It felt alright, but at least my ADHD brain appreciates how crammed the episodes are.

[@btschannel3667]

@cassiushellsin6243 to me they had two different stories going on in the first episode that didn't feel rushed at all and it led right into the next episode which to me was good pacing

[@wordsmith6154]

I've been crafting a theory myself that I'm hoping to get more evidence on when the new episodes air. You see, I noticed a pattern in the two episodes and you mentioned half of it briefly. In episode one, we learn almost right off the back that Charlie's mom has been MIA for seven years. At the end of the episode, we learn that (like never before) an angel is found dead after the extermination. In episode two, we also learn that Alastor disappeared from public view for seven years and only just returned last week. There's a few things with that. At first, I only really realized the fact that both Alastor and Charlie's mom have been gone for specifically seven years. I think that whatever happened or wherever they went, they went together for some reason. They're partners in a plan and I think that plan is to be able to fight against the angels. Alastor only came out of hiding because Charlie's mom knew the angels would retaliate. She wanted to make sure her daughter was protected and knew no one could do it better than Alastor. I only think they're doing this to fight against the angels because the symbolism behind the number seven. While the number six and even three sixes in a row is symbolic of Hell, the number seven is specifically a heavenly number. It's almost poetic, for them to choose the seventh year of their absence to be the unlucky year for the angels. That's just a taste of my theory, though. I'd love to hear someone talk about this further.

[@TheOddityFair]

I have the exact same theory. Which, if we’re right, it forces us to ask an even bigger question. Did Lilith make a deal w/ Alastor? If she did, what was it? I don’t trust Alastor. He has his own goals, for which he is dangerously close to being able to use at least one member of the royal family for. I wouldn’t put making a deal w/ Lilith past him. However, I’m thinking it might have less to do w/ their societal goals regarding rebelling against the angels & more to do w/ protecting Charlie. Lilith is second in power only to her husband. We know that an Overlord, like Alastor, has no hope of defeating her. But, even if he could be forced to help her w/ her societal/political goals, he couldn’t be forced to do the same for protecting Charlie. Thus forcing Lilith to make a deal for him to help her daughter. Vaggie is right to be suspicious of him.

[@ИванКозырев-ж2ш]

what i find interesting is the fact, that if this theory is correct (which sound very plausible), Lilith chose Alastor to be her ally, considering in the ranking he is below, for example, Ars Goetia. Like, why him? Why bother working with him, if he is just a sinner? Of course, she might still be working with someone else, but still. So what I am getting here, is that Alastor is a lot more powerful than everyone might think. Like, we all seen what he did in the end of his rap battle with Vox, turning of all the power in Pentagram city, except his speakers? That's rad. Maybe he breaks the ranking, which is interesting. And of course I wonder what is his goal. I doubt he wants to defeat angels for some righteous reasons. I will definitely watch the show just for Alastor's and Lilith's dealings alone.

[@T_Teobokki]

I SUPPORT THIS THEORY

[@hpjive]

i disagree. I think we all forget that in the grand scheme of powerful hellish beings in hell Alastor is only just a overlord. And in Lillith eyes all he is, is just another sinner.

[@sookendestroy1]

Writers probably did it by mistake

[@davidpescitelli8004]

Alastor and Vox's song was definitely my favorite part of the 2 episodes. It's great to listen to, fun to see the 2 bounce off each other, and shows Vox's flaws. Despite him being the one to stop Val from doing something stupid to go after angel dust he ignores his own advice when it comes to Alastor. He unintentionally gave Alastor a lot of attention, a way for Allastor to sow the seeds of doubt about how strong he really is for the citizens of hell, and let his anger give Alastor the win of that confrontation.

[@ZAWARUDO1335]

I've grown very used to all the changes. I saw the trailer and was a bit worried, but the new cast quickly grew on me. I LOVE Vox's voice. And Keith David is perfect for Husker.

[@sailorstar3148]

He makes Husk sound like a silver fox 🥰

[@hostomelhorsehoarder]

All i could think of hearing Vox was "NOWAY POINT CROW!!!"

[@thefanwithoutaface8105]

Not a fan of them deciding to go "Heaven is actually evil" since the whole premise is getting characters from Hell, who are as evil as can be, trying and mostly failing to be better to maybe get into Heaven. Making Heaven comically evil, to where Adam acts like a Frat Bro is just so lazy.

[@tylere.8436]

​@CipherRage-tp5ql Would it shock you if it did?

[@william3100]

​@@tylere.8436it wouldn't shock me. They already do that with a lot of adult animated comedy shows so I don't see how it would shock most if not anyone.

[@elizabethsmith7224]

i really hope this is just an exterminator/adam thing,and not an angles as a whole thing. Heck I had an idea of Charlie running into angles/exterminators hideing sinners from the others because they hate what they're doing.

[@the-postal-dude]

even panty and stocking had a more interesting version of demons/angels (i.e. demons being rule and order obsessed, and angels being freespirited and disorderly)

[@jakehayward1993]

Yeah that's what I was thinking. It no longer becomes a point of rehabilitation but as the guy said; "saving the world." Furthermore, another issue is that Lucifer can be dethroned because of his behaviour then, how come Adam is still an angel? The dude literally said he enjoys Hell's extermination as opposed to doing it because an angel had died. Whilst it can be both, having the component he "enjoys it" is just distasteful.

[@joshuakim5240]

In hindsight, i feel like it's pretty awesome that all the villain songs are such massive bangers after going through an era of crappy modern Disney villain songs. Big showstealer villains are always a treat to see and hearing that the Vs are exactly that is more or less a big selling point for me personally.

[@amandasmith593]

Given Vivzie's pretty thorough knowledge of demon lore, I fully expect that the lie from the storybook intro is going to be that Lilith isn't an equal-rights boss babe, but genuinely evil. Lilith in Jewish mythology is the embodiment of miscarriage and infant mortality. She's literally a baby-killer. While she did get evicted from Eden for refusing to be submissive to Adam, the idea that her whole deal is gender equality is a very recent addition to the myth (as in the last 100 years). She is death come to those who least deserve it; mourning come to steal away joy. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if the big reveal about Lilith is that, while Lucifer may have genuinely wanted to grant free will to humanity, she only ever wanted them to suffer.

[@SwfanredLotr]

If memory serves me right she's also considered to be the first vampire.

[@shifty_dragon3679]

Throwing in Jewish mythology into an inherently Christian belief system (heaven vs hell afterlife) is an......odd....decision to say the least. Really goes to show the TikTokification of religion amongst young people

[@yfrit_gg]

​@@shifty_dragon3679This is kind of a weird reply to give to somebody that's aware enough to know of this section of mythology to begin with? But even more than that we're talking about simple fan speculation about a completely fictional universe, who knows what the writers have taken inspiration from? There's no rule saying they must only use Catholic influence and nothing else ever. It's really not that serious.

[@witherslayer-7315]

​@@SwfanredLotrsuccubus*

[@witherslayer-7315]

​@@yfrit_ggyou're the only one talking this seriously? Like bro..... All that was said was that mixing religions was a bit weird. Whether you agree or not is a different conversation. "Who knows what they've taken inspiration from"....... The religions? Not sure why you're so quick to jump to their defense when nothing inherently bad was even said.

[@nabinoorshahil2715]

I actually like the fact that they kept it vague as to whether or not Adam was just an A hole or he was strategically pretending to be an A hole just to hide the fact that one of their angels were killed which is why they are rushing the extermination. The vagueness makes him more intriguing than a clear cut answer.

[@ThisIsNotMyUsername]

I've never watched HH and HB for the humor because it's not for me, but I love the world and the characters! I'm excited to hear all the awesome music and learn more about everyone.

[@A_Random54710]

same

[@shadowpuppet8192]

A friend of mine bought the early access package and streamed it with me so I could watch it as well. I had fun with the show! It was nice to see that the original pilot is still canon! I am sad that Katy Killjoy's original VA was swapped out with Brandon Roger, I liked her work and her voice. Thought it was SO fitting. But it'll be interesting to see what Brandon has to offer! I wanna see more of Tom Trench though!

[@domajackthesheepoid3948]

I remember seeing someone's comment saying that Vox and Alastor have a full on Bugs Bunny and Daffy Duck relationship. Where Vox is trying to show up Alastor but Alastor keeps trolling the fuck outta him.

[@TheDanishGuyReviews]

For some people, NOTHING was going to live up to years and years of speculating. I am sure it'll find its footing soon. (I hope it for Spindlehorse's people, they deserve the work and pay.)

[@btschannel3667]

The two episodes was amazing episode 2 is literally so good in the songs were incredible

[@btschannel3667]

@rach3092 I like them all. But i love one song that was episode 2 Al and Vox, then angle dust song episode 4, so 2 I love so far in the season

[@zvzoomin807]

I thought the first episode was alright buy I LOVED the Vox scenes, he became one of my favorite characters immediately. Angel is nice, Husk is suprisingly alright with the new voice, Alastor is great, Charlie is fine, and Vaggieee... is okay I guess.

[@ndawn90]

Um, you did not just call *THE* Keith David "surprisingly alright"... That is straight sacrilege.

[@Cy-Fi]

Honestly, I didnt enjoy episode 1 but Episodes 2-4 are actually really good. The highlight is Stayed Gone as both Alastor's and Vox's VAs are amazing singers and the execution is an amazing song.

[@Feline-STARS]

The show may have its problems but I think it’s going to improve over time and be a successful show. And don’t forget that all shows has problems at the start and then gets better over time. Sometimes it’s the opposite or sometimes they’re always good.

[@kingdingaling6516]

Not all shows. Some actually gets worse. Even if it does get better, if the ratings aren't there the show won't last long.

[@Shadow_Noceda]

this, per example, The Owl House is great but the early episodes of season one are weak compared to the rest of the show, the same can be said about amphibia

[@Afreshio]

Some great series start strong and masterfully done and remain the same or even improve. Some get worse. So no, not all shows has problems at the start.

[@MoxxieKnolastname-hr8sh]

I mean, even Helluva Boss' first episode wasn't great looking back at it and it's still one of my favourite shows, Hazbin Hotel's first episode is better than Helluva Boss' first episode in my opinion so I'm still optimistic for the future.

[@Ezaweta]

I think they have some problems with animation. Proportion and lighting, and they move them weirdly. I hope they will fix it!

[@47ratsinahoodie]

Honestly, of everything from these first two episodes, I mainly hope that we get to see Velvette's new-hairstyle-every-scene thing continue for the rest of the show, I love it!!!

[@lupinforestgreen7614]

As much as Pentious was adorably pathetic I'm still giving him the side-eye. This dude has been in hell---and survived it---for well over a century. I feel like he should be a lot more hardened and it should have taken longer before he started to crack. I'm actually wondering if him getting caught and Vox chewing him out was a setup to earn Charlie's trust. He is a snake, after all, and he proved he can act.

[@lev9032]

i agree,the wiki says he has been in hell even longer than alastor

[@taddad2641]

Honestly... not really? Not entirely? Sinnser can't die unless killed by angelic weapons. So he just has t oendrue other people's bullshit and not be stabbed by an exorcist. Its possible his inventions got him pretty far though but when he has to deal with direct threats he ends up getting wrecked.

[@AE_15x]

@@taddad2641 Frank and others should also help

[@shleaumeau7740]

So maybe eggboi telling him about the killed angel won’t be inconsequential after all

[@SauceyRedHN]

13:33 I LOVE that introductory sequence! I definitely don’t think it was too long. I would’ve loved it if it went on for longer, to be honest.

[@arturo182]

Another SC video that aligns just perfectly with my thoughts Everywhere I looked I've either seen fans saying it's a 10/10 or haters saying it's 0/10, no one seems to admit that's it's ok, but has some issues.

[@Huppa3333]

I think the problem is people are trying to give it a score. I just enjoy the stuff that comes my way, I'm not trying to grade it. The only metric I use is how much fun I had, and as of now, both episodes were a LOT of fun.

[@arturo182]

Checking in after watching episodes 3 & 4, and I gotta say, they are a big improvement! Now I'm looking forward to the second half.

[@Chefeluaniscolina]

know everyone’s already talked about it, but the story of this show going from a popular KZbin pilot to an getting picked up by a major studio is still just so impressive. Hopefully it does well enough to open a door for other online independent animations to be supported and financed.

[@cravenlunatic1]

i kind of wish they'd let pentious stay a double agent for a couple episodes, so that his eventual reveal and repent could've been more emotionally resonant. i need this show to hit the feels hard the way helluva does.

[@Casey5693]

I loved all of it! I think the characters and story are strong enough to make up for the mistakes. There’s so much they’re building up towards. It’s definitely going to get better.

[@justaghostinthesea]

I've seen the first two episodes and I have to say, I actually like the new voice cast more than the OG. Not that the original voice cast isn't great, it's just that this one is so much better. Something about the way the voices, animation, and designs meld together makes me see actual people instead of characters, and that's no small feat.

[@Dang.-]

Yes exactly! I only like Alastor's change but that's it. Especially Charlie's and Vaggies are so forced..

[@Turtlemmd]

​@Dang.- I think Alastors the worst change, it's so Corny and he isn't intimidating at all anymore

[@brad.1031]

"I got the LEGS"

[@AndreiLiciniuTarau]

Sincerely, my only problem with the voice cast are the 3Vs. Like I was expecting Vox to sound more like an news host with some sound effects from the TV or more electronic(like AI generated). Velvet I was expecting to be more child like( like that spoiled brat kinda Voice) while Valentino just sounds a bit off to me. They are not bad, but not what I was expecting. Aside from that, the cast feels pretty solid.

[@isirachehansa4886]

Where to watch huzbin hotel

[@imlivingunderyourbed7845]

20:22 Something interesting about this is that the presentation of Valentino depends on who he is interacting with. He is absolutely terrifying if we're following the perspective of someone below him like Angel, but he is just a whiny man child when he is next to an equal like Vox.

[@KarlesGossick]

Adams attitude completely is opposite of the heaven we saw in cherubs

[@143Ollie]

Speaking of Hazbin Hotel did you guys see the tweet about how the cartoon beatbox guy spent 50k on an animation that’s him and (Charlie I think that’s her name) doing the devils tango unconsensually and supposedly that brought him to bankruptcy?

[@rattled6732]

What?

[@143Ollie]

@@rattled6732 yeah it’s really crazy

[@OnTheVergeOfLosingIt]

Okay that's WILD

[@J.duckDraws]

Yeah, he could have used that 50k on anything and that's what he uses it on💀

[@Dantesparda7213]

Bruh that is just insane

[@heathernicole6198]

I lost it when he said "It looked like Charlie was running from a crocodile 🐊 " 🤣🤣🤣

[@brysonhillman8723]

I agreed with pretty much everything that you said in this video. I gotta say, so far, Vox and Alastor's song is my favorite part of the series so far and couldn't stop listening to it, if it wasn't for someone who leaked it. Speaking of Vox, he's already my favorite HH villain. It's also very nice that Val can switch on different accents he speaks in, which is pretty interesting. And also, Brandon Rogers was just fantastic as Katie Killjoy, after replacing the original voice actress from the pilot.

[@Lukathesnowmew]

Honestly, I loved it. It felt like going back to a loved book I hadn't read in years. I also really appreciated how despite it being a musical, I genuinely kept forgetting it was and was pleasantly surprised every time a song started.

[@rafaelsantos-nl9jd]

ok, so here a fun thing. Lilith go missing 7 years ago, and Alastor also go missing 7 years ago, she is basically hell number 1 singer, and her is all about radio, so the day after someone kill a anegl, Alastor show up and offers to help Charlie. also based on the intro, we know that Lucifer is the creative side of the duo, he is the guy with the ideas, the artist, but Lilith is the one with the will, she is the rebelious one, Brain and Heart. yeah i see this same story before more than once, will no be surprised if Lilith Return with some plant to destroy heaven or something like that, and she was playing "missing" while working in some type of Rebelion 2.0

[@taddad2641]

Or because tis what Charlie is supposed to do and she needs to make herself absent to stress charlie out more, make her act. Not a thing she does happily i imagine but does cause she feels its necessary.

[@TiredBirb490]

I really appreciate the first 9 minutes being spoiler free while you still voice your opinion. I look forward to coming back after totally legally watching the show

[@Killertakeout]

I find it weird that there wasnt a disclaimer at the beginning saying to watch the pilot on youtube, it's free! And remind the audience that the events are canon but other parts changed during production. Since it seems like a continuation

[@Featheryfaith7]

Ironic thing is that they did NOT follow the plot. And thus plot hole happened.

[@Djsavior2111]

All of the singing honestly got on my nerves except for the songs by Angel, and Alastor and Vox. Alastor is the MVP for the whole series imo, right now. My biggest complaint is that as soon as i get invested into the story, they hit you with a lot more singing.

[@SAD_MIST]

I simply CANNOT with Kuzco 14:27 It had me on TEARS

[@Ckhyros]

saying it has a rough start is a beyond an understatement, over half the people that've seen it sailed the high seas and far too many have been tearing the show apart because of all the changes.

[@CookieandWolfieTheories]

Alastor is the pure embodiment of someone from Louisiana… cause he is

[@Allthingsasian]

I feel like it's too early to really judge the show? Inevitably yes people are going to be disappointed, it's been a 4-5 year gap from the pilot where people have had time to speculate and come up with head canons originating from barely any source material, so of course when the source goes a different route from people’s theories and ideas there is going to be disapproval. Along with a new voice cast, stylistic changes etc… it will take time adjusting. But I think with the people jumping in saying- this character isn’t written well, or I don’t like their story- I think we need to hold off on those views for now…

[@valentinkambushev4968]

Another problem that the show is facing is that people are going to expect it to be similar or exactly the same as Helluva boss.

[@melit.]

Yeah that’s what I thought as well, like you said people have had years to build up their headcanons and theories to the point it’s widely considered it be canon in some regards. But the show takes things in a different direction than that and people are gonna be upset it doesn’t align with what they’ve seen as “canon” for so long. Essentially people with those expectations need to cast them aside so the show can be judge fairly and not based off of the headcanons that have sprouted.

[@aaunyea4799]

​@valentinkambushev4968 it is the same, just different characters. HH was supposed more serious comparedto HB, but it's not so same thing different shape

[@chichiro8625]

​@@valentinkambushev4968Tbh its the opposite for me. I just dont enjoy Helluva Boss. I hoped HH would be different and it is!

[@cofeespear4992]

The songs came out really good and Sir Pentious was so dramatic I love his performance

[@ribottostudio]

I have to say I love Angel Dust's new VA much more. In the song Addict, it is very much JUST autotune. It overpowers everything else and makes it hard to enjoy tbh. But with Poison, you really hear that talent behind the VA's work. When he has to hold a note you enjoy it. The way he's able to have this cadence that feels very LMM but still their own thing is hard to do. But it's done well and the way his voice cracks at the end is incredible. And I'm also really loving the new VA for Alastor. You can tell he's having just a blast. I'm also intrigued to whatever happened 7 years before the show, cause Vox saying that's how long it's been since Al was seen is crazy given...IT'S ALASTOR. It's also the last time Charlie spoke with her mother so. It had to be huge. Color me intrigued. I'm excited to see where it goes.

[@swordmaster305]

Angel OG voice actor is literally the best and fits the role way better. Addict is better than Poison in every aspect. I don't know why people saying the newer is better? Kids these days,

[@ribottostudio]

@@swordmaster305 ...I'm 30.

[@octavianjoseph8633]

​@@ribottostudio Eh, the point still stands.

[@2010-g8n]

@@swordmaster305Well, people are entitled to their opinions. Me personally, I think they’re both equal in my eyes.

[@Droidekka]

Could we not put one VA down to raise another? Dang. Edit : I’m also talking about the 1st reply under this comment too.

[@RedCarnation]

I really enjoyed it! I wasn’t expecting much for the first two episodes, it got me hooked and that’s what matters. I feel like some people are holding it up to too high of a standard because they’ve been waiting for so long. But it’s still a fresh show that’s been picked up by a big corporation. Regardless of how long it’s been in the works, it’s still new and finding it’s footing.

[@NIMMEEZE]

My one opinion: I adored it. Everyone will have their opinions and small nitpicks but overall, these two episodes blew me away. Four years is a long time and until the whole season is out, I feel this show deserves every bit of love it gets because it’s been through so so so much work and mean critique that for it to come out as beautiful as it did is such a gift. ❤❤❤ Amazing job, Viv. Not everyone can say they’ve achieved this much after so long. ❤❤❤

[@Huppa3333]

Fucking same for me, I just really like them both, and am stoked to see more!

[@josesosa3337]

Regardless of this shows quality, I'm really proud of what vivziepop and her team achieved after all these years. Good for them.

[@nabinoorshahil2715]

I recommend watching the pilot before episode 1 as the pilot gives emotional depth and character introduction for episode 1.

[@Voxxyyy.]

Him blurring out the fact that he used ntsg’s video 😭😭😭

[@SevenQs]

Vox and Alastor’s song is so good I can’t wait for it to be released officially to stream

[@EasternFantasy13]

I've noticed there seems to be a pattern in Vivienne's shows where there's a rough start but then executes its best in the second half. Helluva Boss' first episode got the job done in reintroducing the premise but was very bare bones and was nothing special. Everyone liked episode 2 but after that there was a lull (and the heavily disliked cherub episode) until episode 5 started showing plot, then episode 6 blew everyone away. Season 2 had a very slow start which was not helped by the nine month hiatus thanks to the Kesha legal debacle. It wasn't really until the two most recent episodes that it managed to win back the crowd. HAZBIN SPOILERS BELOW Hazbin's premiere I agree may have been trying to do a little too much. First episodes are burdened with more exposition since you need to both get your audience engaged AND make them understand what's going on. The writers did put in a couple things that should have been saved for a later episode. Namely that very last scene showing the motive for the angels moving the extermination up. At least the perpetrator of that incident is still a mystery. Hope its worth finding out whodunnit. I did like the Adam's rib joke. That's pretty clever as it centers on a small detail in Genesis that a lot of people don't remember or paid attention to. Other than that though, I've disliked Adam from the moment his design was shown a year ago. I don't like his design (I like the blue and yellow color combo but hate that he was given the same head and horns look as Blitz.) I like the concept of having him the leader of the exterminators but facepalmed at the choice of his personality, which I could see from that design poster. Instead of going for a more sinister and threatening kind of villain, he's yet another annoying douche character; we have too many of those in the Hellaverse already. It works for Mammon, but I really didn't want that for Adam.

[@catstudio350]

I actually found the humor in this show absolutely hilarious.

[@carmenyang56]

I loved seeing the dynamics of the Vs.Vox is so far my favorite character, just because he has this mentality that he needs to be on top at all times, but as soon as Alastor comes out that facade breaks down fast. His song with Alastor is so good i loved it so much. Kinda wanna see Charlie's power in later episodes as no one really takes her seriously so I wanna see that shift in dynamics of just how powerful she really is but she holds back a lot.

[@BeachSalad]

The camera work is my biggest gripe, I have a condition that makes me easily prone to get dizzy/nauseous and I quite literally can't watch the majority of the show because of this. I'm hoping it dies down a lot and maybe is even gotten rid of in season 2 because that seems to be the one thing that EVERYONE can agree on, the camera work is too much.

[@SauceyRedHN]

Overall, I really enjoyed the first two episodes. The only thing that took me by surprise was Velvette. I didn’t expect her to have a British accent, and I didn’t expect her deal to be fashion (but rather social media). First impression, not a big fan, but I hope I’ll get used to her and start to like her as a character. My perception of Velvette from the pilot and the Instagram stuff (which I know weren’t entirely canon) was kinda the complete opposite of what we’ve gotten. I’m sure if I had no expectations for her, I would’ve loved her (I love British accents). I was worried people’s headcanons would disappoint them when they turned out to not be canon, but I never considered my own subconscious headcanons lmao.

[@0x13horizon4]

This was a good review. Can’t wait to see the rest of the series!

[@rickysullivan7584]

Honesty I just hope that there are at least some good angels in haven, because having everyone in haven be bad kind of defeats the purpose of it in the first.

[@william3100]

Even if there were some good angels, it will probably be a thing where only a few outlier angels see how bad heaven is, with most of heaven still being evil. They won't be enough to make heaven good though.

[@scriggle3564]

Shouldnt the whole point of heavem be that people who were good went there?

[@ninarose826]

My theory is that Alastor killed the angel. No proof, it'd just give Heaven another reason to disagree with the Hotel and want them gone

[@Featheryfaith7]

Yeah because he doesn't want to be erased. He ain't stupid. He wants to keep eating.

[@aaunyea4799]

It wasn't him

[@sailorstar3148]

Did anyone realize that the Angel’s blood is gold like the gods

[@tf2warhammerdude]

14:02 Ah yes, the misunderstood bad boy, and not a manipulator that became jealous of Jesus, rallied the angels, blatantly lied to them about his intentions, started the first war, and upon entering hell, instead of formulating plans, builds a giant golden palace with him at its center, ruined perfection since he couldn't have it for himself, then tried tempting Jesus in the sequel, Paradise Regained.

[@Just_Gent]

I've always noticed that the editing in Spindlehorse shows always looked more like a KZbin video, but this sliding in Hazbin which is literally on Prime Video is insane.

[@demonte_writes4906]

I like it! I will say, Charlie's first song needed some more build up before she started singing. Like, that old saying "when the character has so much feelings, they start singing" or something like that. The second song did better with the build up, and adams entrence was good. The second episode was a lot better! I liked Vox's and Alastor's song! They were so good! I feel like im kicking a dead horse, but the song were much better than Wish's songs. They moved plot and were just filled with characters! I also thought the edits on their voices is so cool! I can't wait to see more Edit: i rewatched the episodes and I just remembered. When Valentino asked Vox what gun makes him look better, i fr thought he was gonna send Angel a picture of him threatening to off himself. 💀 I should not have found the thought funny, but it's definitely something an abusive partner would do

[@MewDenise]

Remember when we all had to go through those first Steven Universe episodes before some cool plot and lore started showing?

[@bojackhorseman3787]

Heaven being comically evil is not the play IMO. You like the “sinners” in the show because you know they are bad, but they are funny and there’s a sense of hope in which you think they can rehabilitate themselves and make it to heaven. There is literally no difference from the characters we’ve seen from heaven and the ones we’ve seen from hell. TBH Adam was more of a dick than most of the hell born demons. It messes with the idea of the show. What even is Heaven? Hell, but it’s mostly white instead of red? Idk maybe I’m looking into it too much and should just enjoy the show. It’s probably just a criticism of the ideas of Heaven and Hell, I just feel that they should make that more clear

[@japbstudios]

I think this video gave me motion sickness from the way the camera is during the Happy Day In Hell section.

[@dD-0419]

19:14 the drawing calls him a furry LMAO

[@GotoMaki4Micah]

i love that drawing

[@blackstar044]

I wasn't a fan of Sir Pentious redemption arc. While I was watching his episode I said “What is this, Care Bears?”

[@kamiwriterleonardo6345]

I'mma be real here, chief An angel being OPENLY AS BAD AS A DEMON just doesn't sit right for me. It literally defeats the purpose of... Well, Heaven and Hell.

[@_Lyricris_]

i dunno i like it, it seems like they're making a point about hypocrisy and doing it well. Like i think you're right it defeats the purpose, but i think the show itself is pointing that out intentionally

[@kamiwriterleonardo6345]

@@_Lyricris_ Fair enough, I guess. I'll have to see how will they develop it.

[@Pudu2909]

I thought SirPentious' breakdown after Vox's call was just crocodile tears until you re-stated he was desperate for approval at the start of the episode so ty

[@diaz926]

personal Adam's "hell is forever" is my personal favorite so far

[@nuraolblast1721]

Honestly? The cam felt like there was an actual cameraman STRUGGLING behind it

[@wayverleesoulsong]

Watched the first two episodes very legally and I can’t wait to see the rest! Episode one was a bit odd at some parts, but I still love it to bits! Can’t wait for Friday to arrive!

[@Heropinho66]

Episodes 3 and 4 just came out today and wow I am this show just keeps getting better. Husk and Angel are a really good duo and I cannot wait to see more of them.

[@kama62877]

Ngl I feel like they stella-fied Valentino. He doesn’t seem like a real threat, at least right now, but I hope it gets better later on

[@falconeshield]

Valentino still graped Angel in Addict

[@AdanSolas]

I doubt that, but we’ll see.

[@AdanSolas]

@@falconeshieldYeah, but anyone can do that. Valentino doesn’t seem particularly threatening other than the fact that he’s prone to random and insane acts of violence.

[@SleonHikari]

I mean we do see the man able to get his way a bit when he realizes he can get vox to pay attention to the hotel by mentionin its one resident, alastor. You see it most clearly when after his rant about angel flirtin with one of the voodoo... Strongmen?, that he immediately takes advantage of how pissed and insecure vox is feelin on alastor bein back. So unlike stella, he's got some manipulation tactics that stick. Itll be interestin to see it play out when it comes to how he treats angel dust and others.

[@roo1014]

It's just the start of the show, be patient

[@Swaggerpede]

sir pentious is everything tbh, gotta be my favourite guy.

[@seangrant8871]

So.... how trivial has it become to note that both Alistair and Lilith mysteriously disappeared at the same time

[@ElJorro]

15:19 that's a great sound bite there. It's true that the first season of a show is rarely the best one.

[@tulipplant9317]

The show was very fun and perfect for me because its flaws get overshadowed by its successes, making it 100 percent. The only thing that could damage that score is how it feels like I can't show people the show because the premier isn't main audience friendly. And a lot of my love and understanding of the show comes how I know info before hand, but I'm at least happy that they attempted to introduce everyone, even if it was fast paced.

[@datemasamune2904]

What're you talking about? The part where Charlie kidnapped Verbalase is one of the most talked about parts of the first episodes!

[@coweyloaf]

Can't wait for you to talk about the 4th episode. Ive heard people trashing on it because it includes an SA scene between Val and Angel that people were saying was super graphic and not handled well. I've also seen confirmed that the storyboard artist for that episode literally made dub-con NSFW art if Val and Angel and called them their 'r*pe ship'

[@colorbar.s]

was it not just that leaked Poison moment people were pissed about?

[@coweyloaf]

​​​@@colorbar.s Some episodes have been leaked and I've seen people on Twitter warning about episode 4. I can't confirm that because I haven't and quite frankly don't want to watch it but the only thing I can confirm is the board artist for that episode has made disturbing stuff about Val and Angel and ships them

[@JohnDoe-si8pq]

Knowing Twitter I think it's just safe to wait until we see the episode because all I've seen is something that lasted like 2 seconds and wasn't very graphic at all

[@coweyloaf]

​@@JohnDoe-si8pq Yep. The best thing I think we can do is wait and see

[@silverdrag0n_]

yeah, i unfortunately got exposed to the hazbin hatedom and i saw this circulating, which is kind of oof if true (it just feels really untactful to have a fully graphic SA scene with how they handled it in the Addict music video) can't really talk about the storyboard artist as i'm of the opinion that it's none of my business what they ship (toxic yaoi has also been on the rise in the past year, so 🤷)

[@Little-Buster]

My excitement for the show fizzled out after watching 4 episodes of it.

[@Obsessed_with_Animation]

After only one episode on screen, Vox just replaced Alastor as my fav. I never saw that coming but I’m loving every second of it

[@jagodakit]

video killed the radiostar 🎉

[@Featheryfaith7]

Nah I killed them both ironically. Visible plot holes warning.

[@wilczus222]

Blasphemy!

[@Huppa3333]

Don't let Alastor catch you saying that!

[@gwyngwyn_2416]

it’s such a good song omg

[@josephgoldstein4054]

I feel like episode 1 was the 5 year old in a deep pool with floaties on his arms that doesnt know how to swim and episode 2 is the kids dad coming along to push him forward and teach him how to swim on his own

[@alwyz_cynical.1]

I loved both episodes but Alastor and Vox are by far my favorite parts of it and I think they really are what made it so good. They could literally just do a mini spin off of Alastor’s life and throw Vox in there with background info and I feel like that would be a hit. But I’m also loving the whole Husk and Angel’s back and forth already too. I have such great hope for this show and can’t wait for the rest

[@Rman94]

Well even a week after Extermination Day, things would still be pretty chaotic. It probably takes week or two for things to settle down enough before Sinners clean up their different territories.

[@Fitness_with_oaklee]

“But it has cracks worse than the titanic”💀

[@bioticjedi3864]

Yea that "so hell would never rise up against them" is way off of a line. But for me the line that made me really question what the rules of heaven and hell are was actually the line "so there was this virtue chick....anyway we fucked" was off-putting bc it comes off like we're making Adam look awful for the sake of it. Bc he should still be married to Eve, and idk if Eve would be in heaven bc of the apple thing but Adam also ate the apple and he's in heaven so I'd think she'd be too, which means they're still married, which means Adams committing the sin of adultery in heaven by fucking around. And this whole sexual purity thing is alter reiterated by Sir Pentious' line (written by Charlie) about not having sex before marriage so I'd think that sexual purity does play a role in ones sins. So how is Adam committing sins in heaven?? It may seem like a contrivance but considering the whole theme here is sins and forgiveness I feel like this line shouldn't have been there

[@mysterythekitsune2988]

That may not be the actual Adam.