HBO’S EUPHORIA IS NOT “REAL” IT’S CREEPY | KennieJD

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Kennie J.D.

Kennie J.D.

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@KennieJD
@KennieJD 3 жыл бұрын
Spot the typo for extra points~
@brianna3340
@brianna3340 3 жыл бұрын
Found it lol
@dd_yl1164
@dd_yl1164 3 жыл бұрын
in the description of the video lol
@shishkebab0.0
@shishkebab0.0 3 жыл бұрын
*quickly skips through and scans captions to get noticed by senpai*
@zanny677
@zanny677 3 жыл бұрын
'Real,' the comma should be after I think😅
@shishkebab0.0
@shishkebab0.0 3 жыл бұрын
sorry that was kinda creepy 👀
@chianisaolugbala7747
@chianisaolugbala7747 3 жыл бұрын
People be saying “kids be wild’n ” as if the kids themselves are writing the show
@silviasilver51
@silviasilver51 3 жыл бұрын
teenagers actually helped with the script of skins to make it more real for teens
@puffball4484
@puffball4484 3 жыл бұрын
@@silviasilver51 yes but adults were still curating it and making the final decisions/storyline. I'm sure they only picked the kids opinions that very closely aligned with their vision.
@Vanessa-xx3yz
@Vanessa-xx3yz 3 жыл бұрын
@@puffball4484 You're just saying whatever you can to reinforce your OPINION. There is no fact and only assumption in what you're saying.
@arain764niara
@arain764niara 3 жыл бұрын
@@Vanessa-xx3yz its still a possibility
@Thebadgalgabi
@Thebadgalgabi 3 жыл бұрын
Actually the creator Sam Leveson bases this on his teenage years and high school experience
@rachelofaspens
@rachelofaspens 3 жыл бұрын
i've faced more peer pressure in my life to watch anime than do drugs
@mochijellybean
@mochijellybean 3 жыл бұрын
THE ACCURACY I-
@jamilabrownie
@jamilabrownie 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@user-xt3bf8uz9n
@user-xt3bf8uz9n 3 жыл бұрын
Why is that so relatable? 😂
@makeda6530
@makeda6530 3 жыл бұрын
This is an actual exerpt from my teen years, wow lol
@alexrose20
@alexrose20 3 жыл бұрын
yes wow
@gabrielle9164
@gabrielle9164 3 жыл бұрын
why does everything need to be set in high school? literally what is the obsession with it? people act like your life is over and boring once you're like...19 or something
@brittanyholland9540
@brittanyholland9540 3 жыл бұрын
😂 😂
@brittanywallace3382
@brittanywallace3382 3 жыл бұрын
The show runner was a teen addict so he wanted to write a show about a teen addict.
@ririschannelx
@ririschannelx 3 жыл бұрын
exactly it’s overrated if anything
@TVChild3
@TVChild3 3 жыл бұрын
In the case of Euphoria (which is made for adults) it’s because once you leave high school the dynamic is different. Teen years is the only time in which people start wanting independence (I.e. start experimenting, engaging in deeper relationships, etc) while not actually having any autonomy. There’s much less drama if your characters are adults since they can just do whatever they want. Plus: teenage years are inherently hard to go through, which is also easy to dramatize, and you’re way less willing to accept unruly behavior from adults, even young adults, who don’t have the benefit of hormonal changes and puberty to explain their behavior. I’m not saying the next years are less interesting (they definitely aren’t) but teenage years fascinate writers more for those reasons. In the case of teen dramas, the characters are teens because they’re for teens. For example, a show like Riverdale doesn’t really explore teenage-hood. The characters are teenagers because that’s the audience the show caters to. That’s literally it.
@katherinepatrick1582
@katherinepatrick1582 3 жыл бұрын
The writers are probably people who say “high school is the best time of your life” Edit: this comment is a light-hearted joke guys, don’t look too much into it. I know the writer went through addiction problems.
@morbidsearch
@morbidsearch 2 жыл бұрын
The thing that pushed it for me was Maddie's flashback in episode 5. She had sex with a grown man at 14 and Zendaya's voiceover said "It sounds rapey but she was the one in control". Someone actually wrote that down on a script. Not OK.
@jimhalpert6302
@jimhalpert6302 2 жыл бұрын
What the fuck? Yeah I’m definitely not watching this show
@jimhalpert6302
@jimhalpert6302 2 жыл бұрын
@@estxoxo no one said it was real? I’m not watching a show that romanticizes shit like sexual abuse and addiction. You’re the weirdo lol
@uzomannorom1409
@uzomannorom1409 2 жыл бұрын
pedophilic behavior
@uzomannorom1409
@uzomannorom1409 2 жыл бұрын
@@estxoxo it's shouldn't be put anyway. it indirectly pushes for criminal behavior (pedophilia is a crime btw)
@uzomannorom1409
@uzomannorom1409 2 жыл бұрын
@@estxoxo you watching that isn't normal, but at the same time you can watch it if you want. for entertainment purposes however things like that shouldn't be broadcasted for THE GENERAL PUBLIC
@imanzein8837
@imanzein8837 3 жыл бұрын
the show wouldve just made SO MUCH MORE SENSE if they was in college, not everything needs to be set in high school 😕
3 жыл бұрын
Truthfully. I would've believed it much more had they been 18-19.
@justice4356
@justice4356 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t live in America but would some of the storylines have worked if they were in college??
@barbiezinha5633
@barbiezinha5633 3 жыл бұрын
@@justice4356 college is 18-22, so i think it would have worked better and been less uncomfortable
@tenkoto335
@tenkoto335 3 жыл бұрын
@@justice4356 The Jules & Nate storyline wouldn't have worked as well
@justice4356
@justice4356 3 жыл бұрын
@@barbiezinha5633 yeah I’m not arguing against that. I just didn’t know if Nate blackmailing jules would work in college, and Nate telling the guy that was in the pool with laddie that he would go to jail. I have no clue whether those storylines would have worked but I agree that it would all make a lot more sense if they were in college
@MoochieMary
@MoochieMary 3 жыл бұрын
Dude like only a small group of high schoolers actually party n shit. Like most ppl did not have some wild ass HS experience.
@jadetorres4859
@jadetorres4859 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with you but it also depends on where you live cause im in high school right now and....
@jazzyscott
@jazzyscott 3 жыл бұрын
Depends on the hs, I went to 4 hs and some had parties every weekend and others didn’t have them at all.
@MoochieMary
@MoochieMary 3 жыл бұрын
@@jazzyscott are these smaller HS'? Because even if there were parties, only some ppl are gunna be there and not every party had drugs. Also grades that were full or party kids fluctuated. Like in my freshman year, it was the junior year where most of the party ppl were and hardly anyone else partied
@screamingbanshee1282
@screamingbanshee1282 3 жыл бұрын
@@jazzyscott there is parties in highschool but only the social kids like the minority only go to parties
@maru5433
@maru5433 3 жыл бұрын
maybe it depends on where you live bcs ooh girl my highschool was WILD
@gatsbyvalentine
@gatsbyvalentine 3 жыл бұрын
I honestly don’t know why people don’t make these shows set in college. It seems like an environment more suited for this sort of drama/subject matter/etc.
@__L__837
@__L__837 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly it’d fix so many problems when people wanna have the characters bang every episode now it’s not as creepy as “16 year olds”
@chloemotsebo2075
@chloemotsebo2075 3 жыл бұрын
Also they hire like 25 yo actors to be on these shows anyway. It’s more realistic if they’re playing college students instead of high school students.
@4my009
@4my009 3 жыл бұрын
I agree that they SHOULD be set in college etc but part of me knows they arent bc the industry is full of pedophiles
@Nyxthebat04
@Nyxthebat04 3 жыл бұрын
A lot of these stories are tied to being minors/teenagers though. That's the whole point. College kids are still young and its honestly not that different than High School, but going through this as a younger teenager is also its own flavor of traumatic.
@dulapeep5609
@dulapeep5609 3 жыл бұрын
yess college life isn't easy at all and i think there was a time that u lost ur self cause ur become an adult not kids anymore, and the test or last assignments tho that will drain ur energy and makes ur insane (so many ppl gave up because of this tho) and it would be such a great topic to be presenting on serial television cause i feel like ppl thinking college or uni life its means ur free from everything but ur not actually lol, idk much abt serial televison abt uni/college life except community i guess
@Rose-hh7mk
@Rose-hh7mk 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like we don't talk enough about how Euphoria sexualises minors. All of the characters pretty much, but especially Kat who was a cam girl. That is essentially child pornography and it's depicted as "so brave and inspiring" GIRL NO
@TheBiggestMoronYouKnow
@TheBiggestMoronYouKnow 2 жыл бұрын
cp = bravery sounds like a groomer wrote that ewwwwwwww
@chloe-ev3qk
@chloe-ev3qk Жыл бұрын
I literally had to stop at that part because I was so disgusted. That was too far
@jhonklan3794
@jhonklan3794 Жыл бұрын
"Sending Nudes are the currency of love" - Yeah, no. Maybe dont encourage young teens to send nudes.
@tranquillrainbows9493
@tranquillrainbows9493 Жыл бұрын
That's what a lot of people think, but it wasn't like that at all She pretty much gave it up in the end, realizing it really isn't something "brave and inspiring" -- They were showing that side of minors that unfortunately expose themselves like that to creepy adults, and how it's not okay -- That's why it was shown so dark and everything, instead of movies in which you can tell what they're going for (cough cough.. adam sandlers disgusting movie) In certain moments, they made it *seem* that way, but in way of representing what you feel at the moment, but it turning dark straight after because of how dark it all really is, and/or how you feel/act later on I honestly felt relatability in some of it and tbh, it made me feel for all those negative things more negatively than I already did -- It wasn't glorifying to me But, like I mentioned in another comment, I feel they failed to tackle a lot of these topics in some ways that makes it definitely suspicious and weird -- I found myself skipping a crap ton of things and almost wanting to give up on watching it I can definitely see the discomfort and questioning in a lot of it And they didn't properly balance the dark themes in a way that it gets pretty overwhelming I feel, like someone mentioned, they didn't offer much of a solution too to the characters
@helloworld1493
@helloworld1493 Жыл бұрын
@@tranquillrainbows9493 babe I think you’re putting way more thought into this show than even the creators did
@hendgamal8
@hendgamal8 3 жыл бұрын
it’s weird how a lot of western media is obsessed with teen sex
@popoffpeppar
@popoffpeppar 3 жыл бұрын
Ya lol
@Jacson_23
@Jacson_23 3 жыл бұрын
True. They think that “oMG! Teens do this too?? Let’s depict it on every. single. High school show!”
@palesatalks6629
@palesatalks6629 3 жыл бұрын
True
@Snow-xd4rv
@Snow-xd4rv 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly disgusting, and the fact the media has no issue with it either, and constantly promotes it. It’s just 🤮
@pikachudemsy9751
@pikachudemsy9751 3 жыл бұрын
Broooooooooo
@Apples4Applez
@Apples4Applez 3 жыл бұрын
Some of these “teen” shows could just be made in college. Like there’s still the school aspect, coming of age stories can still happen at college. Hollywood is weird
@asmileisspecial
@asmileisspecial 3 жыл бұрын
Right? It would make so much more sense.
@allyssaearly-mccullom4964
@allyssaearly-mccullom4964 3 жыл бұрын
Hollywood's in it for the money 💵💵💵💵
@aabriahchapman8546
@aabriahchapman8546 3 жыл бұрын
riiiiight like ive been saying this we always get all these unnecessary vulgar highschool shows that don't even show realistic elements of highschool but we barely get college shows with plots that actually fit with the open atmosphere
@MeeplandHeights
@MeeplandHeights 3 жыл бұрын
Their audience usually is college students more than high schoolers anyways
@bubbles4897
@bubbles4897 3 жыл бұрын
True, but how could a drug addict be in college? Considering rue didn’t seem to care about anything besides drugs, how the hell would she end up at college? edit: And I’m talking about if rue the character, with the same plotline, went to college. Not drug addicts in general you idiots
@meggiemeg435
@meggiemeg435 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like a lot of American tv and western shows are just over sexualized lol
@erisrotavele990
@erisrotavele990 3 жыл бұрын
that's why I find tv shows from other countries so refreshing where sex on screen is kind of a "taboo" and they have to develop the story without people doing the nasty in episode 2
@meggiemeg435
@meggiemeg435 3 жыл бұрын
@@erisrotavele990 exactly cause now its just pretty boring, i like build ups and development. But euphoria i actually did like but its defintely not potraying teens correctly maybe more so college. Im not sure why american shows like to sexualize all their shows college, teens, adult etc, maybe its just the culture
@erisrotavele990
@erisrotavele990 3 жыл бұрын
@@meggiemeg435 i haven't watched euphoria yet and still am on the fence about watching it. Another thing that bothers me about western tv shows is dragging out or ruining relationships and storylines for the sake of adding more seasons until you either hate a couple, they've broken up, still aren't together after season 6 and nothing in the story adds up with plenty of abandoned plot points. Whereas tv shows from other countries are like 1 to 2 seasons. Riverdale is one of those shows where the first season was amazing and now it's so clowny even the actors can't take it seriously.
@angiesdoseofkpop1142
@angiesdoseofkpop1142 3 жыл бұрын
odd because when i watched shows from the UK and other countries, that was the first time i saw full on sex in movies and TV shows. Honestly, american tv is only explicit and show nudity in rated R movies or on channels like HBO which is hard to get unless you pay extra for it.
@meggiemeg435
@meggiemeg435 3 жыл бұрын
@@angiesdoseofkpop1142 yeah I just think it’s also the implication of sex too that’s really prevalent in western tv shows/movies, it doesn’t have to be full on nudity. It’s just a really big contrast from Kdramas which is like you’re lucky if you even get a kiss scene a few episodes in
@yakovhadash
@yakovhadash 2 жыл бұрын
not to mention that throughout the series -there is a ton of drunk driving without consequence -Everyone besides Rue and Ali (especially Elliot) does tons of drugs without consequence -Nobody has heard of STDs -Drug dealers are depicted as compassionate and friendly, and tolerant of all kinds of shenanigans
@johannak.2612
@johannak.2612 2 жыл бұрын
How are the drug dealers depicted as friendly?! This one guy wants to rape Rue and forces her to take drugs and Ashtray shoots multiple people
@simplyawful543
@simplyawful543 2 жыл бұрын
Drug dealers are depicted as friendly? You've never watched the show have you? There is one drug dealer who is nice and that's Fez and the rest are awful
@christinexy2516
@christinexy2516 2 жыл бұрын
fr😭😭😭 STD’s drunk driving bruhh, you’re spot on. this show glamorizes everything
@thekaselgirl991
@thekaselgirl991 2 жыл бұрын
@@christinexy2516 yeah no it doesnt. it showed the bad side to.. it doesnt glamor drugs either.
@andreealupu4991
@andreealupu4991 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, everyone says but fez is so cute, he is a criminal and a drug dealer, he gave rue a minor, drugs and he likes lexi who is a minor😲 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️, victim blaiming on jules for lying but not for cal who filmes people, and kept th tape after he found out she is a minor!, he just cared about being caught but he still wanted that tape with a minor for his collection! 😲out, drunk driving, violence 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️, mean/violent girls considered icons(maddy)because they are hot
@jessicawilliams3849
@jessicawilliams3849 3 жыл бұрын
Pro tip: if someone pushes you into doing drugs or drinking, they're most likely not your friend; they just want to see you look stupid. Most people do not care if you want to do those things or not.
@allegedashley
@allegedashley 3 жыл бұрын
THIS! once i got to college, there were so many people at parties who didn’t drink or smoke and nobody cared, the people who drank, drank lol. and the people who didn’t, did not drink. there was no weird conversations or pressure about it
@caitlinirelan5641
@caitlinirelan5641 3 жыл бұрын
Even my ex boyfriend's shitty friends never pushed me to smoke or drink with them. They'd offer, but even if they were super drunk they'd be like ok. Sometimes they'd forget and ask again later, but one of the others would be like man she said no already *Edit : this was like senior year of high school
@laylewalden1831
@laylewalden1831 3 жыл бұрын
@@allegedashley it's very comforting to know this. I graduated high school but I'm not in college yet, and I was afraid that people would be mean to those that don't drink. Thank you for sharing your experience.
@TamaMischi
@TamaMischi 3 жыл бұрын
I agree on the part that they're not your friends or at least not one you should hold on to. But as someone who doesn't drink at all, my experience is that people want you to drink because they feel weirdly uncomfortable with sober people when going out (as if you would shame them for drinking) and/or think you'll just not be as fun or extroverted as the rest. And occiasionally you'll always meet someone that doesn't easily accept that you don't want to drink. It got better though when I got older. With other drugs it is different as alcohol is way more normalised in society.
@Duchesscarml
@Duchesscarml 3 жыл бұрын
Same. When I was in Uni I was never pressured. I was offered, sure, alot. Especially at parties and clubs, but a simple 'no thanks' and that was it. And there were always non-alcoholic options to drink.
@Minako-u2o
@Minako-u2o 3 жыл бұрын
As a 21 year old in college I’m so over the high school setting. Can we please get some shows set in college?
@SarahHeartbeautytips1593
@SarahHeartbeautytips1593 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly!!
@zarahwanzer6408
@zarahwanzer6408 3 жыл бұрын
Grown-ish
@aabriahchapman8546
@aabriahchapman8546 3 жыл бұрын
as a 17 year old in high school, I agree one thousand percent like growing up I really thought high school was gonna be drugs sex and partying cause of the media but its really like homework netflix, and sleep college is an actual appropriate setting for the explicit things they show in highschool shows
@mds7157
@mds7157 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! It’s so tiring seeing shows set in high school time after time. I’m not in high school anymore, let’s move on.
@user-ez7vp5no1x
@user-ez7vp5no1x 3 жыл бұрын
@@zarahwanzer6408 grown-ish is so bad tho 😭😭
@grapesyrop
@grapesyrop 3 жыл бұрын
shows like euphoria is exactly why when i was a teenager i thought i wasnt being "wild enough" bc they portray this unrealistic teenager life...its super weird it feels like teen propaganda lol
@thatfangirl1145
@thatfangirl1145 3 жыл бұрын
God, it does!!! Lol. It's teenage propaganda, totally 😆
@Val--H
@Val--H 3 жыл бұрын
That's what makes it all so concerning. It primes CHILDREN to put on a performance of sexuality before they have any grasp on what sex and sexuality actually IS. A performance that is never really grounded in reality, but in adult male fantasy. It leaves little room for teenagers to honestly explore and find an authentic sexual identity that comes out of what they want and need and feel comfortable with. Especially when they're girls.
@lychee9216
@lychee9216 3 жыл бұрын
Same, I was never really "wild", but I had a friend who was (I am no longer friends with her, she was borderline abusive to me and our other friends) and it ended pretty badly for her. I don't know why the media has to glorify it so much :/
@patriece2215
@patriece2215 3 жыл бұрын
Danica it’s a lot of ppl out there
@abbynicole4515
@abbynicole4515 3 жыл бұрын
everyone ik who was as wild as euphoria characters got kicked out of schools, been in trouble with the law, and are on probation 👀
@Solararisa
@Solararisa 2 жыл бұрын
Also, not every person is sexual? There are adults who still haven't had their first experiences, and asexuals also exist. This peer pressure to have sex in these 'teen' dramas is so weird. It also doesn't help that kids who are shown to not be interested in sex are bullied or seen as 'immature'. Excuse me, maturity does not come from your g*nitals. I really only remember Clueless for being a movie that portrayed an adult unapologetically not having their first experience, and not putting their entire value in that one thing. We should have more representation of adult virgins, be it men or women.
@leia-jimathena5160
@leia-jimathena5160 2 жыл бұрын
There is the show Sans rendez-vous who has a virgin adult character. I was very happy to see that in a show!
@Solararisa
@Solararisa 2 жыл бұрын
@@leia-jimathena5160 Thank you for the recommendation, will check it out!
@Solararisa
@Solararisa 2 жыл бұрын
@April Is she? She seems like she has a lower s*x drive, perhaps mostly due to her heavy drug use.
@leia-jimathena5160
@leia-jimathena5160 2 жыл бұрын
@@Solararisa Your welcome ^^ I hope you understand french. Sans rendez-vous is kind of a french canadian Sex Education for adults 😛 I send you the trailer. The show is on youtube I think. kzbin.info/www/bejne/g53bnZ5-lqZ1nqc
@septictank5392
@septictank5392 2 жыл бұрын
Amen!
@sunsugarfairy
@sunsugarfairy 3 жыл бұрын
I’m 17 and I’m telling you with utmost sincerity that us kids do not be wilding. The wildest thing about my life to date, is the rollercoaster ride my grades have been going on since this pandemic started.
@tammy5466
@tammy5466 3 жыл бұрын
baby girl you're not the only teenager lmao,, I'm the blandest teenager too but I know plenty of people who do be wildin, we are not a monolith.
@im.satura
@im.satura 3 жыл бұрын
omg same lmy mom was out of town for like a week and i did not do a damn thing besides walk around with no pants on.💀💀
@cardio794
@cardio794 3 жыл бұрын
The way the media portray the American "coming of age" teen has me flabbergasted 🤣 I'd be watching and be like damn, this really how it be?
@jordanjackson8748
@jordanjackson8748 3 жыл бұрын
I mean it always depend on who u hang around because I’m 17 and most of the time my friend group not me because strict parents are like most people in Euphoria it all who u hang around and what struggles does people grew up with
@tammy5466
@tammy5466 3 жыл бұрын
@@im.satura bruhhh I'm upset that this is so relatable
@AceSenpaiiii
@AceSenpaiiii 3 жыл бұрын
i'm thinking why her makeup already on, and didn't realize until a minute in this wasn't bad movies in a beat. i'm so slow
@hrk0801
@hrk0801 3 жыл бұрын
LMAO SAME! I was like, "oh she's wearing makeup already...?"
@agravery223
@agravery223 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah me too... lol
@autumnrose9655
@autumnrose9655 3 жыл бұрын
Same though😂
@mochijellybean
@mochijellybean 3 жыл бұрын
i fully believe that if zendaya wasn’t starring in euphoria, more people would view this show more critically.
@GhianEtte
@GhianEtte 3 жыл бұрын
This!
@darlingrebel1244
@darlingrebel1244 3 жыл бұрын
You're 100% right. Casting Zendaya as the main character and using her in all the promo posters/marketing material was probably a calculated and well thought out move
@abiStalli
@abiStalli 3 жыл бұрын
100%
@senyjahwren4825
@senyjahwren4825 3 жыл бұрын
👀oop. There were no lies said
@Ari-bz8go
@Ari-bz8go 3 жыл бұрын
True 👀
@josefjazvic7895
@josefjazvic7895 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who was wilding in high school, it was traumatic, and I feel deeply uncomfortable and exploited by this show. I view it as turning a terrible high school experience into some sort of fetish. I just wanted to say that I don't believe this show understands and positively represents mental health struggles as a whole. Instead its just taboo pornography masquerading as a teen drama.
@erinbiree9933
@erinbiree9933 2 жыл бұрын
Well said, not to mention the lack of emotional fallout from the trauma these teens are experiencing. They cry a bit all the while looking flawless and move on immediately.
@StephanieRZ
@StephanieRZ 2 жыл бұрын
Well said
@jimhalpert6302
@jimhalpert6302 2 жыл бұрын
This
@msi8311
@msi8311 2 жыл бұрын
Yup. I am 27, and a 16 year old girl told me to watch this. I don’t know what to say to her other than I hope she learns to never be this way. I wonder if someone will actually OD on the show. Teach people what these roads really lead to.
@rubykgarrett
@rubykgarrett 2 жыл бұрын
exactly, i can't say i ever experienced the things you did, and i hope you're doing better today, but this seems to just glorify it all in some twisted way.
@msfthe1st117
@msfthe1st117 3 жыл бұрын
The most realistic thing about this show is that Kat writes Tumblr smut fanfiction.
@prettyhatemachinexoxo
@prettyhatemachinexoxo 3 жыл бұрын
true lol
@mileysharc3945
@mileysharc3945 3 жыл бұрын
Not actually as a person that is very much similar to Rues sister this show has helped in a lot of ways and has opened my eyes and its portraying something that is very real it just doesn’t happen to everyone
@SwieczkaNiweaniewierzeDarek
@SwieczkaNiweaniewierzeDarek 3 жыл бұрын
I actually relate to Kat and Jules, I've had similar experiences. Even a little bit to Nate, with how a seemingly perfect, but low-key toxic family can affect you mentally. I found Euphoria too realistic actually. It all depends on a person.
@princess-ky2iq
@princess-ky2iq 3 жыл бұрын
true lol it depends on person
@SwieczkaNiweaniewierzeDarek
@SwieczkaNiweaniewierzeDarek 3 жыл бұрын
@@toyah6459 Yeah, only a little bit, because he's literally human trash... I'm not pulling anything here babes.
@perewinklebee2943
@perewinklebee2943 3 жыл бұрын
Teens are allowed to be sexual, but shouldn’t be sexualized, by LITERAL ADULTS
@helloalexandraa
@helloalexandraa 3 жыл бұрын
THIS is the take
@perewinklebee2943
@perewinklebee2943 3 жыл бұрын
@@helloalexandraa yuh, as a teen, the idea of an adult looking at my sexual habits and going “hot” Is so creepy and raises all the red flags
@Thesilentvoice...
@Thesilentvoice... 3 жыл бұрын
I agree they shouldn't be sexualised by adults but teens shouldn’t be sexual. It’s the norm now for teens to be sexual, but many of the times they aren’t mature or understand the possibilities of the consequences that come along with being sexual.
@remyuk
@remyuk 3 жыл бұрын
@@Thesilentvoice... i agree!! while it's completely normal for teenagers to want to experiment with each other, the amount of young people (some even in middle school) who already have a list of their kinks and high body counts is really scary...
@perewinklebee2943
@perewinklebee2943 3 жыл бұрын
@@Thesilentvoice... if teens want to they should be able to, but should be taught extensively about consent
@cameronbennett5085
@cameronbennett5085 3 жыл бұрын
FINALLY SOMEONE AGREES WITH ME. There’s a difference between a teen coming of age story that includes exploring sexually and hugely sexualizing teenagers.
@deanharootunian4302
@deanharootunian4302 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t think it sexualized teens, sorry it was just realistic. I’m 17 and this is just how teenagers are. I don’t know if ur younger or older than me but 15-18 year olds r just like this
@jackl5176
@jackl5176 3 жыл бұрын
@@deanharootunian4302 You should watch this part again 22:31. I’m 17 and i think this way too I’m pretty sure it’s because of our skew perception because of tv shows that we think like this
@KamikazeK219
@KamikazeK219 3 жыл бұрын
@@deanharootunian4302 for real though. I think it was an excellent move the way they approached sex and nudity with a sort of normalcy. I don't really get what people say when they talk about it being "romanticized". The sexuality in Euphoria always felt like it was just . . . there. It wasn't ignored or endorsed, but it was a constant because that's really what teenagers are biologically like.
@cameronbennett5085
@cameronbennett5085 3 жыл бұрын
@@deanharootunian4302 I’m 21 and I was just super uncomfortable with how they decided to have characters explore their sexuality. For example with Kat they didn’t need to make an underage character a cam girl for her to embrace her body and sexuality. That was a choice that didn’t need to happen.
@doclinny
@doclinny 3 жыл бұрын
@@deanharootunian4302 im 18 and definitely not anything like this what are you talking about??
@clown_sauce
@clown_sauce 2 жыл бұрын
I tried giving this show a chance because i had heard mixed reviews about it but honestly it just felt like a super edgy smut fanfiction that i would have read in middle school
@clown_sauce
@clown_sauce 2 жыл бұрын
Like everything just escalates so quickly you don't have time to care about anyone or anything going on and there is no time to breath. Its just bad after bad after bad and it just leaves you feeling so gross at the end of each episode. Like adults are just getting off on teenage trauma its icky
@paulanji
@paulanji 2 жыл бұрын
and the fact that most of the euphoria stans on twitter are grown-ass adults is honestly disgusting... WHY ARE ADULTS ENJOYING WATCHING MINORS GET SEXUALIZED? WHAT THE FUCK.
@housesavagemafia7504
@housesavagemafia7504 2 жыл бұрын
@@clown_sauce This Comment 🎯.
@mashed1476
@mashed1476 2 жыл бұрын
Omg EXACTLY
@katfujioka212
@katfujioka212 2 жыл бұрын
YES omfg, parts of it are relatable but it feels like a 14 year old’s Wattpad fanfic most of the time
@AMB33ZY
@AMB33ZY 3 жыл бұрын
Is it that teenagers be crazy or that we keep making shows showing teenagers acting crazy which in turn incentivizes and also lightweight makes excuses for teenagers to feel it’s OK to act crazy. Also, we’re at a period in time where social media is thrusting a lot of teenagers into positions in which they are being sexualized by adults and prayed upon by adults and then you go and make a show about teenagers acting like adults when they’re not being sexualized like adults when they’re not but you made the show for adults. I won 100% get where Kennie coming from!
@katherinedelafuente6030
@katherinedelafuente6030 3 жыл бұрын
well considering this show is labella as mature content i.e. not for minors to watch... pretty sure the goal isn't to have teenagers watching this.
@katherinedelafuente6030
@katherinedelafuente6030 3 жыл бұрын
labeled*
@mindi539
@mindi539 3 жыл бұрын
I fully agree with this. I'm a Teen Librarian, and a huge percentage of the books that are available for me to purchase for our teens are not reflective of the experiences of the teens who the books supposedly are for. Now, you can say "well, teens don't want to just read books about people going to school day in and day out," but as with Euphoria, people constantly say the books are important because they're "realistic," so that argument doesn't hold any water, and second, the most popular books are consistently ones that are a little bit ~edgy~ without pushing teens out of their comfort zones. So IDK, I'm just left to assume that people actually don't really care about what teens want or need, they just want an excuse to sexualize them.
@katherinedelafuente6030
@katherinedelafuente6030 3 жыл бұрын
@Anne Day That's the thing. The show isn't meant to appeal to "well adjusted adults." It's for those of us who had these experiences. I have friends who struggled with drug addiction and I have friends who actually did get involved with sex work in high school. To us, this show allowed us to feel like we weren't alone in this experience. As far as teens watching this, I really don't think the show makes any of the issues the characters deal with appealing, including the sex. Also, if the show is TV-MA, which it is, it's up to the parents to decide whether they let their teens watch it. It's not really the producers' faults if parents don't monitor what their teens are watching. Say what you will, but the show is an art form that represents real life experiences and the problem is not the show, but a society that enables these experiences. But not all of us have the capacity to appreciate art just as not all of us have the privilege to criticize this show without relating to it.
@ericaa.1934
@ericaa.1934 3 жыл бұрын
@@katherinedelafuente6030 isn’t that the same argument that was used to defend Joe Camel?
@shookookies9448
@shookookies9448 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think Hollywood knows what teens are even like. Most of us are just boring
@iambreebree4919
@iambreebree4919 3 жыл бұрын
And then there's the other half of us who are not.
@venusss5559
@venusss5559 3 жыл бұрын
Not true lmaoooo
@soakupthenoise
@soakupthenoise 3 жыл бұрын
people don't make shows about boring adults either
@hlabhlabhlab
@hlabhlabhlab 3 жыл бұрын
@@soakupthenoise The Office, The Gold Girls was just a show about four Old Ladies living together, etc.
@hieovri
@hieovri 3 жыл бұрын
right like as a teenager myself we're just boring, cringe, and have bad grammar😭
@xenathornburg2416
@xenathornburg2416 3 жыл бұрын
Can we stop sexualizing teenagers in movies/shows, even if the actors are adults, it's still creepy.
@reoij
@reoij 3 жыл бұрын
Agree
@DC_let_the_Waynes_be_happy
@DC_let_the_Waynes_be_happy 3 жыл бұрын
Agree,also,can we stop acting like everyone wants sex ? Like my God,this people are obsessed with it,I really don't get it😔
@chimereo3343
@chimereo3343 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah its so weird that adults make shows targeting/for adults when the show is about teenagers. Like how are you going to have Zendaya gen z and Disney channel queen but not expected teenagers to watch the show.
@trashley3179
@trashley3179 3 жыл бұрын
i was just ranting about this today! like why are the directors so desperate to sexualize people who are supposed to be in high school.
@21nrockin
@21nrockin 3 жыл бұрын
I STRONGLY AGGGGREEEE. It’s so creepy
@mis0cat
@mis0cat 2 жыл бұрын
as a teenager (17) who has been sexually active, my opinion is that while teenagers do have sex and are naked sometimes, there is absolutely no need to publicize that explicit side of a teenagers life by putting it on tv because it opens so much room for predatory adults to enjoy seeing.. naked kids basically
@yannaw8156
@yannaw8156 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. I do like the show, but at the same time it can be uncomfortable. We get it, teens do stuff like sex, however that doesn’t mean it should be publicized for the entire world to see like cmon now. Just cuz it’s can be realistic, does that really mean it has to be portrayed on tv, especially like how Euphoria does it?
@nostalgicbliss5547
@nostalgicbliss5547 2 жыл бұрын
17 year olds are not kids. If you're out there fucking actively, you're not a child.
@nostalgicbliss5547
@nostalgicbliss5547 2 жыл бұрын
@Angelica Love Yea I get it, but being a minor does not make you a child. And in many countries the age of consent is 16. I just find it disturbing that y'all call a 17 year old a child, but once they turn 18 they are full grown adults?
@BratzRockAngels
@BratzRockAngels 2 жыл бұрын
@@nostalgicbliss5547 You can be 14 and out there having sex, that doesn't make you any less of a child. Stop trying to justify predatory behavior.
@BratzRockAngels
@BratzRockAngels 2 жыл бұрын
@@nostalgicbliss5547 I also don't consider 18 year olds full grown adults either, and I'm 16.
@CiarnaK
@CiarnaK 3 жыл бұрын
Can't remember the exact quote or who said it, but "If you have to use sex to keep people interested, then your story SUCKS".
@gg_kinz
@gg_kinz 3 жыл бұрын
when people stop having sex then you can ask them to stop portraying it
@chimereo3343
@chimereo3343 3 жыл бұрын
@@gg_kinz girl just bc ppl do it in real life doesn’t mean they need to include it in every episode of a show.
@boredkirsten9810
@boredkirsten9810 3 жыл бұрын
@@chimereo3343 the thing is the sex scenes were forgettable I only remember the one that happened in the first episode, and the black guy with the girl with the daddy issues when he went to college. I didn’t feel like the sex scenes defined the show. The only reason is because those had I guess you could say background meaning, it was Jules coping with finding herself and she thought she could find it with random people, and the tension of Chris masculinity being questioned by his peers and him trying to prove it to his girlfriend that he was still a “man” While the sex scenes are in there those were the most prevalent ones because they had meaning that was more than sex. It didn’t use sex to keep people Interested because I barely even remember the sex scenes tbh That’s saying it from a perspective that I liked the show
@6235river
@6235river 3 жыл бұрын
i didn't care about the sex scenes at all and were waiting for them to end so the story could progress because the story and characters are all so interesting lol
@upsidcs209
@upsidcs209 3 жыл бұрын
@@chimereo3343 byeee it's supposed to be the other way around. 1) it doesn't happen in every episode... at least not without a valid purpose that serves to the character's personal development. 2) it's a show that's trying to portray a REALITY in high school, the fact that people (in this case, high school students) have sex in real life is EXACTLY why it appears on the show. most high school students I know are going crazy about sex and drugs to try and prove themselves to other people, or boost their own confidence, or just play the mature, which is what happens in this show honestly y'all have alarmingly bad analysis skills
@rowan-priince1860
@rowan-priince1860 3 жыл бұрын
some people really act like teenagers in high school are these ethereal, tortured, succubi-acting ass creatures. like, have you ever met a teenager? been a teenager? its not hot when you really look back, its just embarrassing and awkward, that goes for "interesting, popular, cool" teenagers too.
@angel-gx7zy
@angel-gx7zy 3 жыл бұрын
ehh i’d say most teens i know r tortured internally in one way or another. but also, this show follows a group of troubled teens,, so of course they’re gonna have issues lol
@jessicablunn2984
@jessicablunn2984 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, thank you! I feel so embarrassed looking back on the times I blacked out, got too high, or went through depressive episodes. There was nothing sexy about it, and I honestly even at the time it was all just so embarrassing and I just didn't know how to stop or I thought that if I just kept going someday I'd find the peace that I was looking for.
@Snow-xd4rv
@Snow-xd4rv 3 жыл бұрын
@Cindy L It’s crazy you went through that. I hope you’re doing better now
@cryo4808
@cryo4808 3 жыл бұрын
​@@angel-gx7zy "tortured internally" you're too dramatic lol. you either missed their point or ignored it.. the point is that there's nothing sexy or cool about it like the show is trying to portray
@angel-gx7zy
@angel-gx7zy 3 жыл бұрын
@@cryo4808i don’t even remember making this comment sweetheart. but thanks for saying ur opinion 😁❤️
@a.egodoy7745
@a.egodoy7745 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like the show can’t call itself “real” but also be “beautiful” / as aesthetically pleasing as it is. Realism isn’t beautiful? Teenagers aren’t these instagram beautiful clearly-actually-25 women, they’re awkward growing children. And I guarantee if these teenagers looked like actual teenagers, we would all feel way more uncomfortable taking in these things.
@Kinda12004
@Kinda12004 3 жыл бұрын
That’s the thing, how can I, a teenager relate to the main characters? Which 3 of them are models?? I ain’t seen one pimple smh
@emitheorbit1118
@emitheorbit1118 3 жыл бұрын
@@mylifeismadness5465 If TEENS can't play TEENS for legal reasons, that scene shouldn't be there.
@samsonright936
@samsonright936 3 жыл бұрын
@@emitheorbit1118 teens can play teens. There are plenty of shows where the cast is actual teenagers and the shows are actually good.
@samsonright936
@samsonright936 3 жыл бұрын
I agree but teenagers don’t really look awkward nowadays. At least not as much as before, they actually look nice now that they have more access to skincare and expression of fashion than pervious generations of teens did
@shayla106
@shayla106 3 жыл бұрын
@@samsonright936 Still look awkward compared to models.
@Lucylu644
@Lucylu644 2 жыл бұрын
Can I just point out that during the span of the series, we barely see any of the characters actually pick up a book and study💀 Mountain of homework? Unreasonable deadlines? 3 exams a day? Hello?
@losthope98
@losthope98 2 жыл бұрын
I meaaaan, I would consider that another accurate detail lmao. My husband was wild in high school like some of the characters in the show, and for the last two years he very rarely did any actual school work. Yes I am aware that is not okay, and yes our education systems are broken.
@ceceobinwa6746
@ceceobinwa6746 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone would've been dress-coded as soon as they walked in the front door. Half the time I was just like, "That's a spaghetti strap--not four fingers wide; why aren't you sitting in the office right now?" "That skirt does NOT reach to your fingertips , my girl." "That top is transparent, you should be searching the lost and found for a hoodie or something." "Too much midriff. . ." Most unrealistic part of the show.
@splinter5024
@splinter5024 2 жыл бұрын
@@naima8632 the irony lmfao if you think it's used just for a shock factor you're clearly a lil slow
@splinter5024
@splinter5024 2 жыл бұрын
​@@ceceobinwa6746 honestly depends what school you go to, i saw much "sluttier" outfits worn by girls at my HS, so to say it's unrealistic isn't totally accurate
@shyannekendra5589
@shyannekendra5589 2 жыл бұрын
Yall ever wonder why there be like one teacher 🤔 but in reality teachers be everywhere
@estmarirabie5831
@estmarirabie5831 3 жыл бұрын
I don't understand why teenagers are portrayed as supermodels wearing a full face of make up everyday. Like teens are awkward and they struggle with acne etc. It's so unrealistic
@iyaniarose
@iyaniarose 2 жыл бұрын
have u watched the show….
@yerkilator
@yerkilator 2 жыл бұрын
yes there are some teenagers that look like “super models” and yes there are teenagers that do choose to wear makeup and there’s literally nothing wrong with that? Stop generalizing teenagers as a whole.
@lesvianaura
@lesvianaura 2 жыл бұрын
@@yerkilator did you even read the full comment not all teens do it only a handful does. In shows everyone looks like a super model but like 2-3 of them
@tico5058
@tico5058 2 жыл бұрын
@@lesvianaura Not to be blunt but they aren’t going to cast ugly people lol
@mateopeltier767
@mateopeltier767 2 жыл бұрын
its because they're characters. Sam levinson said that he's only interested in emotional realism so of course its very extra. If you watch the shows every other students who aren't characters are very normal.
@sarawadsworth3449
@sarawadsworth3449 3 жыл бұрын
I think it’s important to realize that at some point adults sat down, wrote teenage smut, and decided to make it a television show
@mochijellybean
@mochijellybean 3 жыл бұрын
*cough RIVERDALE cough
@elbowsbuns1896
@elbowsbuns1896 3 жыл бұрын
@@mochijellybean *begins to have an asthma attack* ^this
@serenitybeats1677
@serenitybeats1677 3 жыл бұрын
I looked up the writers of the show, and one is 36, and the others are like 44 and 53. So fucking creepy
@MyLovebug96
@MyLovebug96 3 жыл бұрын
If the age of people you are portraying in a show cannot legally act out the things written in the show about them, maybe pick a different age group
@aj_san3788
@aj_san3788 3 жыл бұрын
This this this, just this as a general rule
@momo7989
@momo7989 3 жыл бұрын
It's literally a remake with influence from the show runners real life
@audramcdonaldapologist3676
@audramcdonaldapologist3676 3 жыл бұрын
@@momo7989 yeah idk why people aren't understanding this, the writer was a teen addict not a college aged addict 😂
@jayrobin3948
@jayrobin3948 3 жыл бұрын
@@momo7989 I don't think that excuses adults asking or directing people who are legally minors or acting as minors to perform explicit acts, especially with the intent of showing those acts to adults
@ameya6967
@ameya6967 3 жыл бұрын
@@audramcdonaldapologist3676 the writer said it was only ‘loosely’ based on his experiences. also, the things he experienced happened in the last century. how is it relevant in the present day? also, that isn’t a good excuse to defend it because it’s still hyper sexualising teenagers. he’s basically giving paedophiles a measure to prey on children, unintentionally or not. i have been noticing you in a lot of comment threads defending the show and backhandedly mocking others and their experiences with trauma. please stop with your biased views.
@sophitiaofhyrule
@sophitiaofhyrule 2 жыл бұрын
If Euphoria wanted to be "real", they wouldn't have the actresses have perfect hair and a full face of makeup 24/7.
@e-9227
@e-9227 Жыл бұрын
Right?! Literally nothing about it looks real, it’s a fantasy in a music video format.
@firebreatha
@firebreatha 10 ай бұрын
Or 2000$ clothing items
@mr.fettesq.7705
@mr.fettesq.7705 9 ай бұрын
There's nothing "real" about this show. Homegirl is Cap'n with eaying this is how HS is for her. ...the kids saying this is how it is for them as well is all cap to the extreme. They want it to be like this so they flex online and say it is. This show is so extreme...nobody's HS life looks anything like this. HS kids are rediculous for trying to equate their lives to this show. Because it just ain't true. They just wish it was. The only time anything like this becomes realistic is in mid-university years. Period. Sometimes freshman year because freshman be crazy lol.
@CheerfullyCynical829
@CheerfullyCynical829 7 ай бұрын
Makeup aside, CONSTANT misery porn, constant sex, and constant drugs and depression is not a realistic representation of high school.
@sookie9622
@sookie9622 3 жыл бұрын
One of the things I see when people defend the show is "teens have sex too" and im like no one says they don't, but do we really need to watch the whole thing? you can imply they had sex, we don't need the details.
@troy511
@troy511 3 жыл бұрын
i don’t get those comments like bruh you don’t have to sexualize teens...just because some have sex.
@pikachudemsy9751
@pikachudemsy9751 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly dude the is absolutely no reason to be so explicit. Plus I'm not even sure how the actors deal with such but honestly this show made all teenagers seem like sex and drug addicts.
@pikachudemsy9751
@pikachudemsy9751 3 жыл бұрын
@@gracievelasquez8076 facts
@justme-qd6qb
@justme-qd6qb 3 жыл бұрын
@@gracievelasquez8076 that still doesn't really fix the problem of sexualising minors though
@gracievelasquez8076
@gracievelasquez8076 3 жыл бұрын
@@justme-qd6qb Literally worse stuff than euphoria exists. People will always sexualize what isn’t supposed to be with or without this show. and that’s the sad sick reality of this world. So you can either just accept that or join some organization that tries to fight for that cause. Other than that great show lol 10/10 would watch again😁👍
@joyisntfunny
@joyisntfunny 3 жыл бұрын
There’s a reason why I don’t watch “teen” dramas, it’s a bunch of 20somethings oversexualising minors and as a teen, it be high key triggering
@emitheorbit1118
@emitheorbit1118 3 жыл бұрын
Apparently, you can't make a teen series without sexualising the actors (who are playing MINORS). *COME ON, ¡¿IS THAT HARD TO NOT DO IT?!*
@parisewellington3664
@parisewellington3664 3 жыл бұрын
**cough*riverdale*cough**
@nataliecampbell675
@nataliecampbell675 3 жыл бұрын
American pie was the og bruh
@laurenstewart5707
@laurenstewart5707 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty Little Liars. They’re only teens when the show wants them to be.
@ninarances9074
@ninarances9074 3 жыл бұрын
I understand that. When it comes to teen movies or TV shows, things that you see in reality might get put there. Like minors having sex with older people because they need money for their school or their parents forced them to or it's because they were just pressured to. There is also someone getting brutally beaten up for doing shady things. I understand how triggering that can be, because it looks like something that happens in real life. But I think I shouldn't just watch shows or movies that might trigger me because there is nothing "happy" in it.
@beatriceguariglia1534
@beatriceguariglia1534 3 жыл бұрын
As an 18 year old who loves the show and constantly sings its praises, this video really gave me a wake up call. you were absolutely right that i am not distanced enough from the age of the characters to have seen how troubling the nudity is. while i do intend to continue watching for myself as i personally relate and find solace in the show, i will never speak of euphoria again without discussing the problematic nature of the perceived “real” portrayals of teen-hood. thank you for opening my eyes!
@serenitybeats1677
@serenitybeats1677 3 жыл бұрын
Thank god for people like you, I criticized the show very heavily in a TikTok comment section and it’s fandom was raging at me
@Sixgirlss
@Sixgirlss 3 жыл бұрын
@@serenitybeats1677 well.. obviously. if you heavily criticize anything with a large fandom you're going to get angry people replying. you're allowed to say your opinion just as they're allowed to disagree on it
@serenitybeats1677
@serenitybeats1677 3 жыл бұрын
@@Sixgirlss i think you just accidentally proved my point in your response
@picturethis4903
@picturethis4903 3 жыл бұрын
@@serenitybeats1677 i do like Euphoria but i 100% get the criticisms
@starlighteuu
@starlighteuu 3 жыл бұрын
its been so normalized through teen shows today, its not really even thought about. But thats super dangerous how hollyweird is managing to even normalize it.
@neondiddle2039
@neondiddle2039 2 жыл бұрын
My gf (both 22) and I have been watching season 2 and every episode we ask "do none of these kids not just watch anime or read? Like no schoolwork or anything?"
@christinexy2516
@christinexy2516 2 жыл бұрын
they don’t even carry bags to school of they don’t 😭
@TheBiggestMoronYouKnow
@TheBiggestMoronYouKnow 2 жыл бұрын
too busy having essex with the middle aged men UwU
@Pink_pr1ncess
@Pink_pr1ncess Жыл бұрын
@@TheBiggestMoronYouKnow and bragging about it like it’s an achievement to f#k older men 😭 like no girlie, you’re a VICTIM.
@Pink_pr1ncess
@Pink_pr1ncess Жыл бұрын
@@TheBiggestMoronYouKnow and bragging about it like it’s an achievement to f#k older men 😭 like no girlie, you’re a VICTIM
@CloroxBleach-ny8su
@CloroxBleach-ny8su Жыл бұрын
wtf would I do that? Those things are boring.
@rachel145
@rachel145 3 жыл бұрын
Idk why so many shows choose to revolve around highschoolers then try so hard to make them seem older?? like just make a show about 20-24 year olds
@alxandro5504
@alxandro5504 3 жыл бұрын
there’s already a lot of movies/tv shows about people in their 20’s doing drugs and shit
@cryo4808
@cryo4808 3 жыл бұрын
@@alxandro5504 there are way more with teens
@with_Thandii
@with_Thandii 3 жыл бұрын
Its normalised pedophilia. It's the same reason why if you ever ask him and what their type is in women and for them to explicitly describe that person it will resemble the features of a child for example short, no body hair, meek, submissive, cute and sexy simultaneously, listens to everything that they say does not argue back. They are basically describing a child because media and patriarchal Society has normalised pedophilia within the community.
@with_Thandii
@with_Thandii 3 жыл бұрын
@Baisale36 _ yes it wasn't about 20 year old and 24 year old but if you wanted to write sexually explicit scenes then he could have at least made them freshman in college . That will still be around the same ballpark as teen years without seeming as pedophiliac as it seems right now
@ak-yr4dt
@ak-yr4dt 3 жыл бұрын
@@with_Thandii FOR REAL.
@hil619
@hil619 3 жыл бұрын
Its so funny to me when people say you cant decide to not like a show after the first episode. Its the PILOT episode. Hooking viewers and making an impression is literally the goal and one episode should be enough. Sure its not enough to review a whole tv show and/or season but its definitely enough to have an opinion and impression
@ivynoa
@ivynoa 3 жыл бұрын
that's always what i think! people always say "no just keep watching, you just watched the first episode", and im like....shouldn;t the first episode be the MOST IMPORTANT? i don't get it.
@drumstick6610
@drumstick6610 3 жыл бұрын
Ya when ppl want u to sit through shit for it to "get good"
@lilscenechick1995
@lilscenechick1995 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely agree. Of course it's not enough to draw an overall analysis of the plot, but you should be able to decide if you want to keep watching or give it a pass.
@sneha5359
@sneha5359 3 жыл бұрын
i agree w the sentiment but like, yeah u can say u don't like the first episode or the impression it left on u but u still can't really judge a whole show by that to say you don't like the show imo
@sydneynicole837
@sydneynicole837 3 жыл бұрын
I agree and disagree. I don't think you can really KNOW you don't like a show until you've "gotten" to the good parts. But I think you can know if you WANT to get to the good parts. Like I'm sure you're right, maybe I'll like it later but I don't care. Like, there's enough on TV to not have to watch something you have to wait to enjoy
@pls-shanice
@pls-shanice 3 жыл бұрын
I honestly think that representing teens as always having sex, drugs and drinking is making teens have FOMO that they honestly don't need to think that's what they need to do. Teens that do get into that often get into trouble. Like why would we encourage that as a standard?
@hwrgfn7029
@hwrgfn7029 3 жыл бұрын
It's quite disappointing that in this type of shows teenagers never gets in trouble, even if they did some weird things. Like in 13 reasons why when Clay went to police station and threatened to shoot somebody with a gun AND DIDN'T GET EVEN ARRESTED! sorry for my English it's not my first language
@Pinkladyisv
@Pinkladyisv 3 жыл бұрын
That’s a good point and honestly when I was a teenager a part of me did feel like that. I thought I was “lame”.
@sappysaphic420
@sappysaphic420 3 жыл бұрын
Oh man, I really felt that comment. I'm currently a high school senior and I've never been to a party, gotten drunk, tried any drugs, gotten laid, etc. and part of me feels like I missed out. When I was a freshman I thought that the next 4 years would be all about drama, romance, heartbreak, parties, but in reality it was just full of stress to get good grades lol. I'm now thankful that I never really did any of those things because I hear stories about the trauma my peers have experienced (very toxic relationships, bad things happening to them at a party) and that is not something I need in my life
@KoiinuNe
@KoiinuNe 3 жыл бұрын
this comment! 👏
@oliviac295
@oliviac295 3 жыл бұрын
I haven’t watched the show, but everything I’ve heard about it has been about the aesthetics, and everyone doing glittery makeup looks... so are they not on some level romanticising reckless lifestyles?
@StanChunghaOrGoHome
@StanChunghaOrGoHome 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like shows like this push the stereotypes of what teenage-hood should be. Partying, drinking and sex. As a teen I felt like I was doing something wrong because I didn’t get involved with any of it. Shows with unrealistic teenage stereotypes are what made me think I was missing out.
@princess_selfimprovement
@princess_selfimprovement 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I had kinda the same thing, I didn't feel like I was doing something wrong because obviously those things end badly almost all the time, but I did feel like I wasn't acting "normal" (in reality there's no such a thing as normal in high school) or that I was missing out and maybe those things were't bad/didn't have serious consequences.
@sophiayamagughi
@sophiayamagughi 2 жыл бұрын
tbh while I didn't feel left out cos I gave less than two shits- i did feel not normal because I wasn't what was shown in media lol
@d.ani.6882
@d.ani.6882 2 жыл бұрын
Also, most teens do not have that much free time. When you have 6-7 classes the most you'll be doing is worrying about your grades, if you even care to graduate. It's worse if you have a part time job. You're juggling grades and bills. Many of us still have homework or projects to do on the weekends, or are part of a club. Many of us have younger siblings we have to take care of when our parents are out, as well. Some people do drugs and go to parties and have sex but it's definitely not as often as the media portrays, for the reasons I listed above. Unless they just don't care. Some weekends you might have all your work finished and have free time to go out, but the most time you have to party or things like that is when there is a holiday or the seasonal breaks that you get every once in a while.
@nickit7655
@nickit7655 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah my high school experience was much more High School Musical than Euphoria
@princess_selfimprovement
@princess_selfimprovement 2 жыл бұрын
@@d.ani.6882 This ! I have to agree, some people do drugs and/or go to parties and social events a lot, or have sex but those people are in the minority in most places. Even statistics show that less than half of high schoolers have sex even counting oral
@samsonright936
@samsonright936 3 жыл бұрын
I love this video so much. I’m 16 and have been struggling with depression because I have been sexually abused and fetishized by grown men and I despise how this show ends up glamorizing daddy issues and child s*x abuse by covering it up with trendy music, “aesthetic” lighting, and pretty makeup I’ve been compared to Cassie from Euphoria because of my sexual abuse and depression. I hate how that show (despite the message it tries to portray) ends up further dehumanizing teenagers and continues to perpetuates us, especially teen girls, as sexual objects instead is human beings.💔
@susanstradley5294
@susanstradley5294 3 жыл бұрын
Everyone already commenting “it was realistic for my experience” are the ones commenting before watching the video because Kennie’s main point was that you could portray these issues without broadcasting purposeful, explicit nudity of “minors” meant to be consumed by adults. You can’t get around how sus that is.
@spencer62321
@spencer62321 3 жыл бұрын
You have a point degrassi did all this storyline but I could relate to them more. Also they did it better than this show. Some people acting like this is new and groundbreaking even though other shows have done this first in better.
@ajones2367
@ajones2367 3 жыл бұрын
literally
@MyeshaB
@MyeshaB 3 жыл бұрын
I only watched the first episode, and I'm still visually traumatized . I would rather read or watch a documentary about these issues.
@hotmamma2126
@hotmamma2126 3 жыл бұрын
But it's moreso a matter how HOW you handle it which matters more, which imo Euphoria does exceptionally well - It's not sexualization for the sake of it, there is always a tie to the plot of development of the characters, which aren't half-assed either. No one's fucking just for fan service. Even Maddie's scene on the merry-go-round isn't as sexy as it is just,, sad. Which leads to my next point - Every scene depicting their relationship with adult is never glorified, rather condemned. You never enjoy watching those moments. You are meant to be repulsed. Even the relationship between a hs and college student are exposed for power/maturity dyanmic problems. There are consequences for their actions - All of the actors are unquestionably adults who have obviously done their research or have experiences with the roles they are playing - Euphoria being marketed towards adults is actually a good thing!! It's meant for an audience completely aware of the recognizing these behaviors as wrong!! I look at this show with such fondness for showing Now i understand the argument that no matter what, it's not necessary to protray these things and many teens who watch this might be inspired to do stupid shit. BUT, on the other hands the same can be said about many other issues. I think in the exact same way they aren't promoting drug abuse, they aren't promoting trying to fuck or jack off to kids. It's HOW you do it
@chandrimadey8419
@chandrimadey8419 3 жыл бұрын
@@hotmamma2126 exactly.
@katiebailey3439
@katiebailey3439 3 жыл бұрын
"teens be wilding" Me in my teens: A nerdy, introvert who never dated and was really freaked out when people just said they were drinking.
@audramcdonaldapologist3676
@audramcdonaldapologist3676 3 жыл бұрын
"I'm not like other teens" 🤪
@michelleh.715
@michelleh.715 3 жыл бұрын
Sydney, girl you’ve been on every comment so far, and you give off the vibes you’re claiming the initial commenter gives. I assume you’re a teenager and so am I, 17 to be exact, and I truly can’t comprehend why you seem to feel the need to defend this show to death. This show might be relatable to you I get it, personally I couldn’t relate to this show at all. And I know most of my friends, all who have a wide variety of personality’s couldn’t relate to this show either. Whether you like the show or not you can’t pretend it doesn’t have its issues. The show shouldn’t show nudity like Kennie said, there isn’t a need for it. You don’t need to be going around and commenting on other people who share their experiences and mocking them. Congrats on being such a cool and relatable teenager, must be exhilarating. But like I said, no need to mock other people because they don’t relate to the show and you do🤷🏽‍♀️
@bealol1016
@bealol1016 3 жыл бұрын
@@audramcdonaldapologist3676 i’ve seen you mock like three other people. shut up at this point literally let her/him/any other pronouns they possess express themselves. so stupid istg.
@maxine1246
@maxine1246 3 жыл бұрын
I'm 20 and I'm the same just a bit more confident in myself and wise 😂
@user-ej3qb3um8c
@user-ej3qb3um8c 3 жыл бұрын
i- Y/n??😲
@giselleh1337
@giselleh1337 2 жыл бұрын
Oh how the tables have turned now that the actress came out saying she was uncomfortable with the nude scenes
@nwimobilenotary5634
@nwimobilenotary5634 2 жыл бұрын
@Ichijou Miyamotothe one who played cassie
@iThiink
@iThiink 2 жыл бұрын
She used to be a porn star too, not that it matters, but it says alot about how unnecessary certain scenes are.
@princess_selfimprovement
@princess_selfimprovement 2 жыл бұрын
I can't believe it had to go to that point for many people to get that the scenes were a bit much especially considering that the characters are children even if they're almost adults.
@princess_selfimprovement
@princess_selfimprovement 2 жыл бұрын
@@iThiink That's the lady who plays Faye, not Cassie.
@pyromaniac709
@pyromaniac709 Жыл бұрын
Yet depp daughter wanted more sex and nude in the idol,she could corn then😂
@ma99otfood
@ma99otfood 3 жыл бұрын
Yes the 16 yro thing caught me off guard, I was like “damn they couldn’t even give them seniors....ok”
@truefalse934
@truefalse934 3 жыл бұрын
I never watched the show, so when Kennie said that the characters are 16 I was like, what 😳✋(me being a 16 year old potato 🥔 here). Because I thought that they were seniors
@spicymint7972
@spicymint7972 3 жыл бұрын
I fr thought they were seniors or at least 18, when she said 16 🕴,,, i-
@kerri6011
@kerri6011 3 жыл бұрын
@@spicymint7972 me too, didn't they go to prom? or am I misremembering and omg isn't what's her face dating a college freshman, I thought she was only a yr younger so thought nothing of it
@paigebond4010
@paigebond4010 3 жыл бұрын
I was under the impression that they were seniors lol,,
@goodcritiqueprisonmike8432
@goodcritiqueprisonmike8432 3 жыл бұрын
I looked up ‘how old are the characters in euphoria’ and the only minors (17) were Rue, Jules, and Maddy. And Gia (13). This isn’t hate or anything just thought I’d mention cause why not.
@hil619
@hil619 3 жыл бұрын
I will never forget how a few friends of mine literally started doing sex snd drugs at a young age BECAUSE of shows like skins and gossip girl. They were young and impressionable. These shows didn't imitate young teens but young teens were imitating these shows. Of course that was my "teenhood" in my town! No idea what kind of experience you made.
@kennynelson7585
@kennynelson7585 3 жыл бұрын
i haven’t watched gossip girl but skins never portrayed the bad parts of drugs. there was one episode where they had a bad trip and that’s it.
@rahbeeuh
@rahbeeuh 3 жыл бұрын
Gossip Girl portrays the lives of upper East siders in Manhattan (I think) those were rich kids and based on the experience of the author who wrote the books the show is based on. Also, a continuation of the show is being produced by HBO so that's not gonna go over well
@BriarPatchNyra
@BriarPatchNyra 3 жыл бұрын
I think people still need to consider that parents are at fault there. People quickly jump to censorship and restricting freedom of expression because teens watch stuff they have no business watching, and their parents aren’t talking to them maturely. That being said if it’s specifically aiming for an impressionable teen audience it’s scummy.
@nadiary7991
@nadiary7991 3 жыл бұрын
@@kennynelson7585 üm we must have watched different shows... you do mean skins uk? When I think about skins, I mostly have bittersweet feelings and remember it as a show I cried too often. The characters partied hard, that is true, but is was sooo full of bad things that happened because of the way they lived.
@tswelos_tales
@tswelos_tales 3 жыл бұрын
Damn, that's a whole other conversation that neeeds to be had. It's honestly heartbreaking💔
@killanelle
@killanelle 3 жыл бұрын
as a high schooler who regularly interacts w/ people around the age of the Euphoria teens (and other high schoolers), television about teens tends to be way oversexualized (and unrealistic) and it genuinely creeps me out a lot of the time.
@kpik23
@kpik23 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly, and when you become a full grown adult it gets really creepy when other adults make an excuse for showing "teenagers" doing sexual acts, and teenagers can't even technically watch it. It would be a little different if the kids were legally adults but this...just no. I think Kennie hits the nail on the head!
@marzh1073
@marzh1073 3 жыл бұрын
I’be just left highschool, and from what I’d seen of the show I thought they were at least eighteen or something. Yikes
@dollyeyeball777
@dollyeyeball777 2 жыл бұрын
I just hate how obsessed Hollywood seems to be with putting teens in sexual situations, it's so fucking disgusting.
@thekaselgirl991
@thekaselgirl991 2 жыл бұрын
its reality, its happened to me. Gonna happen to eveyone. its just the world.
@anyone1111
@anyone1111 2 жыл бұрын
@@thekaselgirl991 but can you give any reason why any of what you said makes it okay? So what if it’s “just the world” how does that make it any better?😞
@peacheditsz
@peacheditsz Жыл бұрын
It's reality. Hollywood literally show their colors an have for years
@IHavent82Day
@IHavent82Day Жыл бұрын
This is only going to get worse.
@jerm-gv9rv
@jerm-gv9rv Жыл бұрын
@@thekaselgirl991teens have sex sure not sure why adults need that marketed to them and consumed
@Itisabush
@Itisabush 3 жыл бұрын
I really hate how so much of western media “normalizes” young teen sexuality. Like you’re seen as “not normal” for not engaging in sex as a minor. You didn’t “miss out” on anything.
@Toxihex
@Toxihex 3 жыл бұрын
Everyone seems to talk about how the most sexually active time in their lives has been in their 30's. I'm all for not holding back if you're teenagers in love and both really want it as long as you wear protection but like, that's not what most sexual experiences are for kids, ESPECIALLY if there's adults involved. I remember talking to this college age guy on Skype when I was 17 who was really impressed that I hadn't had sex yet and genuinely thought that this is abnormal and rare and like... bruh, no.
@isabellalochhead3983
@isabellalochhead3983 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, there's someone I know who wants to drink and do all this other stuff because they're scared of "missing out" and when they're older, looking back and thinking that they didn't get the "full highschool experience". You don't need to drink or do drugs or whatever to enjoy your time in highschool. And they also say that I should do stuff and I'm going to regret not doing these things, but I'm honestly fine staying home and not doing anything
@babynyxe4784
@babynyxe4784 3 жыл бұрын
"TEENAGERS BE WILDIN" Teenagers: don't go outside, have depression, watch anime until 3:00 am
@tolyan_lolyan
@tolyan_lolyan 3 жыл бұрын
Ur comment is painfully relatable
@sofia_1583
@sofia_1583 3 жыл бұрын
its me im teenagers
@sashhhaa4874
@sashhhaa4874 3 жыл бұрын
As a 16 year old I can strongly agree
@alxandro5504
@alxandro5504 3 жыл бұрын
uh you’d be surprised
@siriuslyfuckingphantomhive9549
@siriuslyfuckingphantomhive9549 3 жыл бұрын
... When my parents leave for the weekend and I say I'm gonna have people over (joking I don't have friends) she gets excited that I'm socializing
@abbywolffe4114
@abbywolffe4114 3 жыл бұрын
The show Sex Education by comparison shows teenagers having sex in a way that is acceptable because it's made to reflect the sexual experiences of teenagers. Euphoria is showing teenagers have sex and it's bad because it's made to reflect the sexual experiences of adults on the _bodies_ of teenagers, which is where the sexualization part comes in.
@noonstyles3973
@noonstyles3973 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly ! Honestly the sex in sex ed was so awkwardly teen-ish that I loved it. I really recommend it to others
@lee-ci8mj
@lee-ci8mj 3 жыл бұрын
That’s perfect wording!!! 👏👏
@mariaefstratiou7427
@mariaefstratiou7427 3 жыл бұрын
@Erwin Lii I was Very hesitant about it at first too, but in season two their relationship was soo well written: Eric didn't just forgive Adam and took him as he was. He demanded a public boyfriend, one who would hold his hand and show he's changed. He Never settled for less and only accepted Adam after he's proven himself worthy
@bog4543
@bog4543 3 жыл бұрын
@Erwin Lii yeah definitely not my favorite trope
@rafael7547
@rafael7547 3 жыл бұрын
@Erwin Lii I think everyone deserves a second chance (or maybe three) in the end.
@jintend0gs
@jintend0gs 2 жыл бұрын
as a teenager, whoever said euphoria is an accurate depiction of high school is delusional 💀 the drug addiction stuff is true, to some extent. everything else is horribly exxagerated and sends mixed signals abt who the target audience is supposed to be. especially rn when teens s3xualizing themselves on the internet has become a big issue, alot of them will watch euphoria and want to emulate the characters bc of the euphoria "aesthetic". girls that watch it will say they wanna dress like maddie to school or something and expose themselves as minors
@mariab9702
@mariab9702 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly, the show gives me pedo vibes or a show where pedos can thrive ewww
@random-zz8ut
@random-zz8ut 2 жыл бұрын
Is this only for the US? I can guarantee you where I live and have lived, nobody does drugs and people don’t care about dating they have crushes but that’s not something they can control, what they can control is dating and people focus on getting good grades and drugs are basically illegal so
@marshmallows394
@marshmallows394 2 жыл бұрын
no one said it was an accurate depiction of high school (literally, how do you watch their non-existent dress code and say it's realistic?). we're saying it's an accurate depiction of what it's like to go through similar experiences or issues faced by the characters if you're in (or not in) high school. learn the difference.
@uranophile_
@uranophile_ 2 жыл бұрын
i do think some of the shit that is shown in the show is accurate. so like rues drug addiction and how she was so far into it, she got physical with her mom and threatened to kill her, she destroyed the house, she’s running from the police and she will do anything to get her next fix. maddys on and off again abusive relationship with nate is also a great storyline, i’ve definitely met high schoolers who would run back to each other no matter how violent their relationship was. maybe that was just my experience going to an urban school, but euphoria does get a lot of things accurate (also, i believe that rues addiction is based off of sam levinson’s drug addiction from years ago, so maybe that’s why rues characterization is so compelling and accurate)
@uranophile_
@uranophile_ 2 жыл бұрын
definitely can do without the dicks out at, but we see less as the second season comes to a close.
@serenamarks1402
@serenamarks1402 3 жыл бұрын
I think they just tried so hard to make it “realistic” they they ended up going off the deep end and romanticizing some extremely toxic things. Everyone’s life is different but don’t portray to teens that this should be their experience, because it isn’t a good one
@premaritaltripdream
@premaritaltripdream 3 жыл бұрын
that is a good impression of the show but i think that the show was trying to anti-romanticize like abuse and self harm (in the form of drugs) and show the tragedies that come with getting addicted to these things but hey that's just my opinion.
@maggiedk
@maggiedk 3 жыл бұрын
@@premaritaltripdream that may have been their intention, but I don't think they accomplished that. I actually have my own personal experiences with underage drug use, self harm, and abuse. Very similar things to those depicted in this show. Euphoria wasn't around when I was a kid, but Skins did extremely similar things, and although they did show the more "gritty" parts of these topics, the entire aesthetic of the show romanticized them & this did actually have an effect on me as a teenager. It often caused me to crave certain substances when I saw them on screen, to romanticize being "a beautiful tragedy," etc. I'm pretty much positive that Euphoria is having a similar effect on at least some of its audience. It's a beautifully done show, but that's a big part of the problem.
@serenamarks1402
@serenamarks1402 3 жыл бұрын
@@premaritaltripdream I do think that was the intention but I don’t think that’s what happened. It’s taken such a tragic thing to go through and such a toxic environment and turned it into a aesthetic thing for teens to want to be a part of. When I watched it so much of the impact was washed away by the uplifting music and the fun cinematography to the point that the message was muddled. And I’m a whole ass adult
@HorrorGeek9
@HorrorGeek9 3 жыл бұрын
To be fair it does a good job of showing how bad the effect of drugs are particularly in the episode The trials and tribulations of peeing while depressed and in the recent Christmas special. People can make an argument that maybe the aesthetic of show may romanticize things but pretty cinematography will always do that (this dissonance is common in anti-war films that have beautifully shot scenes that can interpreted as glorifying war).
@maggiedk
@maggiedk 3 жыл бұрын
@@HorrorGeek9 1. Glorifying war is a problem too 2. Drugs, abusive situations, and self harm is a lot more accessible to teens than war is to the general population. You can't really make that comparison because they're completely different things. Teens with mental health issues are *vulnerable*. They're vulnerable to being influenced by things like this and there are no "maybes" about whether this show romanticizes these things. Like I said in my above comment, I know this extremely well due to my own experiences. I could find you 10 Tumblr blogs about Euphoria right now that would show you kids romanticizing the things depicted in it. It really shouldn't be minimized, in my opinion. I've known people who have died from the kinds of things they portray in the show.
@fortunatecookie
@fortunatecookie 3 жыл бұрын
Basically it boils down to “We can talk about sex without creating pornography” Crazy that people seem to disagree.
@makeda6530
@makeda6530 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly this!
@SwieczkaNiweaniewierzeDarek
@SwieczkaNiweaniewierzeDarek 3 жыл бұрын
I don't see pornography in Euphoria, I don't know, maybe I'm weird. Sure, it is explicit, but not to the point I'd be creeped out by it. Just, don't watch it with your parents. I've seen worse from HBO tbh.
@rianeb6171
@rianeb6171 3 жыл бұрын
Basically sex education which quite literally teaches so much in my opinion while balancing the topic of sexual exploration so well and being realistic.
@imanitillman7541
@imanitillman7541 3 жыл бұрын
I agree. Like it's literally porn.
@fortunatecookie
@fortunatecookie 3 жыл бұрын
@@SwieczkaNiweaniewierzeDarek I usually decide if something is porn based on what it’s *supposed* to make the audience feel, not on what I personally get out of it. So like, even if you don’t *enjoy* it as porn, if the sex scenes are directed and shot in a way that’s supposed to be titillating for the audience, then you should *recognize* it as porn
@yvannab.1260
@yvannab.1260 3 жыл бұрын
As a high school teen, who watches euphoria, who likes euphoria, and who can see the problems with the show. I appreciate this take. As someone who is the “bigger” friend. I have a problem with Kat’s storyline. Kat’s empowerment comes from her selling her own CP (kiddie p 0 r n). No one calls it out. Euphoria kinda portrays this as a power move, when it’s not. It’s illegal and gross.
@ickyvicky7139
@ickyvicky7139 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I agree.. It seems like they're saying everything has to solved with something sexual. Everything. Failed your test? Fuck the teacher. Feeling down? Have sex. Your friend's being toxic? Have her bf clap your cheeks. Like Jesus does every problem have to be solved with sex? Then adults go around and wonder why each generation of children get "worse and worse" but they never take a step back to think of the message the give us.
@binkbonl
@binkbonl 3 жыл бұрын
Kat spirals because of it and ruins her relationships by the end of the show until she gets it together and stops.
@Sleipnirseight
@Sleipnirseight 3 жыл бұрын
TRUUUE. Also, why are we so obsessed with all women being valued for their looks? Like can't we be valued for other things???
@yvannab.1260
@yvannab.1260 3 жыл бұрын
@@binkbonl I think Kat spirals way before she even becomes an underage sex worker. She starts becoming annoyed with her friends early on. Changes her clothes, makeup, attitude. Has sex with a grown man. Also, I don’t think [euphoria explicitly showed] that she stopped camgirling.
@craptap2029
@craptap2029 3 жыл бұрын
THIS!!!! It really bothered me that the writers empowered her through literal pedophilia and made it seem ok because it was ‘her choice’. Absolutely horrible for so many reasons. 1).... pedophilia 2) the ‘bigger’ friend was empowered through the sexual desire of GROWN MEN instead of truly being allowed to accept her own beauty FOR HERSELF. OMG NO!!!!
@selbyhill4905
@selbyhill4905 2 жыл бұрын
I want to see a show with people ACTUALLY dealing with their mental illnesses, not turning to sex or substances, but then again I guess that would be too boring for some people. 🙂
@NJGuy1973
@NJGuy1973 2 жыл бұрын
You'd be better off reading a book. Here are some suggestions: - Girl, Interrupted - Sussana Kaysen - Prozac Nation - Elizabeth Wurtzel - Brain on Fire - Susannah Calahan - Thinking In Pictures - Temple Grandin Note: Wurtzel wrote about how sex and drugs did not work, but meds and therapy did.
@simplyawful543
@simplyawful543 2 жыл бұрын
"Actually dealing with mental illness" you do realise some people to drugs and sex as a way to cope? Are they good ways? No but people do and it's not unrealistic to do so
@selbyhill4905
@selbyhill4905 2 жыл бұрын
@@simplyawful543 Yes, this is what I'm referring to. People use these things to COPE but it doesn't help in the long run and that is what I struggle with. There needs to be more good examples of what to do when you're struggling because that is what helps a lot of people who don't want to turn to substances or sex to feel better. I want to see people dealing with their mental illnesses, not just trying to "cope" in unhealthy ways. You're right, it's not unrealistic, but it's not helpful either.
@La0bouchere
@La0bouchere 2 жыл бұрын
@@selbyhill4905 The whole point of the story in Euphoria is to show how destructive it is to deal with problems in this way lol Of course they're not going to show Rue going to the gym, hitting up a therapist 3x a week, and cleaning up her sleep schedule
@selbyhill4905
@selbyhill4905 2 жыл бұрын
@@La0bouchere I get that. I know the point of the show and if people want to watch it, I don't care. I just want more shows about dealing with mental illnesses in a way that doesn't always promote unhealthy coping strategies. I think it would be refreshing to see Rue try to overcome her addictions, but that's just me. Even when people deal with their mental illnesses in ways that are beneficial or healthy, it's still not all sunshine and rainbows. They would have plenty to go off of if they made a show like that. But I can still see your point as well and I get that.
@andic8126
@andic8126 3 жыл бұрын
People just want to excuse nudity in minors as “self expression” in tv and movies
@agravery223
@agravery223 3 жыл бұрын
But aren't they all adults??? No seriously- isn't it illegal to have nudes of underage teens?!🤔 Aren't all the "teens" in shows played by young adults? And it's HBO... so I guess that didn't surprise me... like that's what HBO does.
@akeylawallace4420
@akeylawallace4420 3 жыл бұрын
@@agravery223 true, the actors are adults, but if you're watching with the suspension of disbelief that the show intends, then your mind should be saying "there are teens on my screen doing things". These are essentially adults, pretending to be teens and performing sexual acts. It's at least a little off putting.
@sophisticatedtwat9160
@sophisticatedtwat9160 3 жыл бұрын
@@agravery223 Did you even watch the video? Both of your points were already talked about.
@lizzyrank5405
@lizzyrank5405 3 жыл бұрын
@@agravery223 actually as long as you have the parent's permission and they are there to monitor then you can have actual teens do adult stuff. In GOT sansa was still a minor in the r*pe scene in the earlier season. They were able to do that only because her mom was in the room and signed off.
@frankmendez7142
@frankmendez7142 3 жыл бұрын
@@lizzyrank5405 I do agree with you, but in her rape scene I don’t think it showed any nudity
@thedrunkenmagician587
@thedrunkenmagician587 3 жыл бұрын
why would you even make a teen show that isn't even for teens? Euphoria is lit rally rated 18
@theemeraldaxe1414
@theemeraldaxe1414 3 жыл бұрын
Everything that happens in the show has happened to multiple teens. Your argument is stupid. You really think no teen has done drugs, sex, or crimes? Come on dude. The rating system is just idiotic.
@thedrunkenmagician587
@thedrunkenmagician587 3 жыл бұрын
@@theemeraldaxe1414 but did I say that? I know teens have been exposed to that but what is the point of showing all of that to adults??? If you're going to explore teenhood then make it for teens. That's all I'm saying.
@theemeraldaxe1414
@theemeraldaxe1414 3 жыл бұрын
@@thedrunkenmagician587 it is for teens? The problem isn't the show it's the rating system?
@thedrunkenmagician587
@thedrunkenmagician587 3 жыл бұрын
@@theemeraldaxe1414 Showing explicit drug use, sexual behaviour etc isn't for teens? if it was, it would be portrayed in a different way
@thedrunkenmagician587
@thedrunkenmagician587 3 жыл бұрын
@@theemeraldaxe1414 They literally said this show is for ADULTS??
@mielpop2571
@mielpop2571 3 жыл бұрын
As a teen it feels like adults really don't even know how teens look or act
@thelittleunicorn6196
@thelittleunicorn6196 3 жыл бұрын
I think they create these shows to relive their own teenage years but it's been so long since they were teens that they mix it up with their college years and it gets very...confusing.
@rahbeeuh
@rahbeeuh 3 жыл бұрын
@@thelittleunicorn6196 that's exactly it! I feel like they should do what Drew Barrymore's character in Never Been Kissed did. She went back to high school to get a feel of how high schoolers behaved. Then again maybe hire some teens as consultants to make more shows that are about them more relatable
@rahbeeuh
@rahbeeuh 3 жыл бұрын
@@aboutthat-2449 I hope you enjoy your years as a teen as much as you can. Adulthood is a trick 😂
@ririschannelx
@ririschannelx 3 жыл бұрын
it’s not a documentary, it’s entertainment. god it’s like people today just want something to complain about. y’all weak
@emilymckenzie4354
@emilymckenzie4354 3 жыл бұрын
Ukr
@Random_Person.-.
@Random_Person.-. 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly this show gives off 13 Reasons Why vibes. They insist that the shows message is against something but the way they present the subject matter romanticizes it’s more than anything
@carlazuzisdaddy8712
@carlazuzisdaddy8712 2 жыл бұрын
THIS IS WHAT I HAVE BEEN SAYING
@JillCheese
@JillCheese 2 жыл бұрын
It's like those shows that are so "against drugs" that they make it look so funny and will barely put any consequences (or very minor consequences) to taking drugs. Then, they have this "real moment" at the end where the actors are like "don't do drugs. drugs bad." Like you were just trying to make us laugh and relate to how the drugs made them act, and now you want to tell folks- especially kids- that it's bad?! Of course a good amount of kids watching these adult shows are gonna see it and go, "but I wanna have fun." They know what they're doing.
@Sandrinarhonda
@Sandrinarhonda 2 жыл бұрын
But at least there was consequences in 13 reasons why , Euphoria doesn’t have it .
@Sandrinarhonda
@Sandrinarhonda 2 жыл бұрын
@Sasha Allen 13 reasons why gave me trauma but the storyline made me sense . Euphoria storyline is a just a copy of that plus sex work basically.
@Vanessa-bv2rj
@Vanessa-bv2rj Жыл бұрын
@@JillCheese Rue has consequences for taking drugs when she’s found out but she’s the only one. I guess it’s totally fine to do drugs as long as you aren’t an addict
@aisha9440
@aisha9440 3 жыл бұрын
As a freshman in high school, I was EXTREMELY confused when things turned out boring as f. I thought I was going to get a whole Gossip Girl experience
@Baja_blaast
@Baja_blaast 3 жыл бұрын
Yooo, honestly my freshman year was pretty uneventful (I’m a sophomore now). Unless you’re like massively popular, nothing really happens and even then, it’s not to the extent of the shows like gossip girl or other teen high school shows lmaoooo.
@ahmedbarakat2809
@ahmedbarakat2809 3 жыл бұрын
im 19 i would like to tell u it will stay that way just dont get into drugs and everything will be fine
@abbynicole4515
@abbynicole4515 3 жыл бұрын
it pretty much stays the same dude. it’s hella boring. i will say, everyone says junior year is rough, but i was a junior last year it was hard bc myself and everyone ik was struggling mentally.
@idk_a_plant
@idk_a_plant 3 жыл бұрын
bro same but i don't get out much so.....kind of on me idk
@someonenotsomeone8450
@someonenotsomeone8450 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a sophomore (pre covid I was a freshman) in high school, and while I personally am a very bland 'good girl' person (dosn't drink, vape, smoke, or do anything else) EVERYONE else was doing something. Usually it was just vaping and drinking, but it was also hard drugs. There would be people selling meth in the school bathroom. People would randomly leave class to have sex somewhere or just ditch school. I'm not saying you're invalid for not having the full 'eXCitINg hIgH scHoOL ExPieRenCe' I'm just saying it does vary a lot based on where you go to school.
@punk-ishacademy8693
@punk-ishacademy8693 3 жыл бұрын
Do the Podcast pleeaaassseeee Kennie talk about whatever you want hon
@shalmali-379
@shalmali-379 3 жыл бұрын
YESSSS
@user-bh7bs1rp9j
@user-bh7bs1rp9j 3 жыл бұрын
YHHH OLEASE KENNIEE I COULD LISTEN TO U FOR YEARS ON REPEAT
@astronada4700
@astronada4700 3 жыл бұрын
^^^ fully support the KenPod 👏
@astronada4700
@astronada4700 3 жыл бұрын
PodJD
@pondeck
@pondeck 3 жыл бұрын
Agreeeeeeed!!!!
@hexgirlveronica
@hexgirlveronica 3 жыл бұрын
This alongside Riverdale is just another addition to teen dramas oversexualizing teenagers and I'm glad someone finally said it. There is NO reason as to why these characters need to be minors
@garethharriott9582
@garethharriott9582 3 жыл бұрын
Having watched euphoria I don't think it oversexualises teens tho I don't see it
@brisahiggins6970
@brisahiggins6970 3 жыл бұрын
The problem was the cinematography and how it was constant n*dity.
@dreamyanon5151
@dreamyanon5151 3 жыл бұрын
I agree, it makes you forget they are literal children
@yonicorn1641
@yonicorn1641 3 жыл бұрын
I'VE BEEN SAYING THIS FOR MONTHS!! Riverdale would be perfectly fine if the characters were not 16 but like 19-25 and in college, 1) they almost dont go to school and if they do, they mostly hand out in the halls or in whatever room they have, after season 1 the school aspect is forgotten, they can hang out in college too /idk do the writers know colleges have cafes/halls/rooms to hang out etc too???/ 2) it would made a lot more sense for them to be skipping school like they do if they are in college, idk about you but for me it's a lot easier to skip uni than to skip school /idk how it works in america, maybe we have different systems/; 3) so iirc the Riverdale kids are like 15 in s1. What 15 year old is allowed to go out in 3 am to a drug dealer to attack the mayor /or whatever, i made this up but it can totally be a real episode/. The parents in the show are totally irresponcible and the kids are even more irresponsible, like okay, maybe it makes sense for Jughead's dad, who was the gang's leader or whatever, to be letting his son go to gangs and stuff, but liek, every other parent is a "normal" person with a job and everything, how do you expect me to believe you care for your child but you also let your 15 year old go out in the woods at 2am to hang out with guys and shoot drug dealers????? Like it would made so much more sense if they were in their early 20s to be going out late and all AND NOT TO MENTION VERONICA HAD A BAR???? THE 16 YEAR OLD HAD A BAR?????
@_-zinny-_was_here9376
@_-zinny-_was_here9376 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like the writers of these shows are living out this strange fantasy. With mental health kinda just existing there so it can be “not like other shows”
@aquaintsound
@aquaintsound 2 жыл бұрын
"there is no such thing as realism in an edited work" THIS. Euphoria CHOSE to show naked teens in the shower, CHOSE to use the R word liberally with minimal explanation of the fact that it's a damn slur. What's shown and spoken is chosen, not some literal biography of a life written by a teen
@adrianaacosta7293
@adrianaacosta7293 2 жыл бұрын
Retard or rape? I’m confused because you censored a word that didn’t need to censored because you already established it’s an offensive word. Just say it, as long as you’re not calling someone that directly it’s okay to not censor it.
@artemisandapollo8923
@artemisandapollo8923 2 жыл бұрын
Im someone who is affected by that slur? Even though its written and not said its still offensive.
@princess_selfimprovement
@princess_selfimprovement 2 жыл бұрын
When maddy said r*tard I was like "yeah I officially think this shows fucked up" I already thought it was before but that pushed me over the edge.
@bumbabees
@bumbabees 2 жыл бұрын
@@adrianaacosta7293 its the first one. and some people aren't comfortable with saying it. including myself. people have called me that numerous times and it's just not a word a lot of people are comfortable using.
@kattail1429
@kattail1429 2 жыл бұрын
Realism in film relies on both narrative and visual realism - by this I mean that the story must be grounded in reality and the visuals must match.
@littlemeowbigheart
@littlemeowbigheart 3 жыл бұрын
As someone who is actually a teenager, I can 100% say its over sexualize and can really effect what my age group thinks of themselves.
@izzie5728
@izzie5728 3 жыл бұрын
yuuuppp
@xshae_xo
@xshae_xo 3 жыл бұрын
Should people ur age group b watching it? It's an 18 up💀
@xshae_xo
@xshae_xo 3 жыл бұрын
@@beezyg1246 can't deny that🤷🏽‍♀️ but how u (not u specifically) gonna complain about how it makes u view urself when u shouldn't even b watching it
@beezyg1246
@beezyg1246 3 жыл бұрын
@@xshae_xo because I didn’t know it was a adult all the trailer and promotion made it seem like a teenager show and I was a teen that’s why I watched but after episode 1 I realized it was for adults
@esmegigigenevievesqualor6029
@esmegigigenevievesqualor6029 3 жыл бұрын
Off topic: I LOVE ur profile picture
@javastripper7375
@javastripper7375 3 жыл бұрын
I think this has a lot to do with a culture that normalizes pornography, we have a tendency to associate porn with sexual liberation but it's actually extremely opressive in general and we are normalizing it with younger audiences.
@Luna.311
@Luna.311 3 жыл бұрын
This 100% but I’m too scared to say it out loud cos people get really pissed when u say that
@SS-xr7jf
@SS-xr7jf 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t really have a problem with porn but Jesus Christ why do we have to have it bleeding into everything
@jenn1545
@jenn1545 3 жыл бұрын
I think this is a very interesting but contentious point. With the merging of cultures thru the internet, 20-something year olds (and above) are embracing their bodies and sexuality bu they also cohabitate with younger people online and in the media. So there's also a dangerous conflation of sexual liberation and the normalization of explicit sexual content among minors under the guise of this revolution (if that's the right word). But a lot of people would call this discourse sexist. It's very frustrating
@Giraffe27
@Giraffe27 3 жыл бұрын
Ma'am you spoke nothing but facts! I am so damn tired of people acting like p0n/sw is empowering.
@madixxoo
@madixxoo 3 жыл бұрын
The show does literally call this out though.
@XOMoonlightXO
@XOMoonlightXO 3 жыл бұрын
I truly believe people who had any experience like that of the characters from euphoria should just seek therapy. Im sorry
@harlemw651
@harlemw651 3 жыл бұрын
Seriously! I didn't see the point of them just bringing up extremely triggering things if they didn't also want to show that there's hope/ a light at the end of the tunnel. Like...what's the point?? Especially if it's target audience is teens!
@eventuallyfeb3929
@eventuallyfeb3929 3 жыл бұрын
It’s not all about that it’s about the mindset and how it’s affected by the stuff they go through and their family. Like daddy issues, toxic relationships, addiction and everything. It’s what so many people go through, even Lexi serves a purpose in the show. If you hadn’t problems with depressions not feeling confident or any of the above then great for you. But honestly everyone should go to therapy if they are able to. It’s not a bad thing. I think you should know better
@tanyaroy2996
@tanyaroy2996 3 жыл бұрын
Some of us can't afford it
@laurynelove7093
@laurynelove7093 3 жыл бұрын
@@harlemw651 the light isnt always there for everyone
@sephorahora127
@sephorahora127 3 жыл бұрын
Don’t be sorry! That’s facts
@taehyungoppa7208
@taehyungoppa7208 2 жыл бұрын
Girl you was ahead of your time. I honestly disagreed with this at first because I was too young to even understand but now that Euphoria Season 2 got released I realized how creepy it actually is 😭
@ebonih7138
@ebonih7138 2 жыл бұрын
Truly showed me how much I changed in 2.5 years.
@RandomSwiftie13
@RandomSwiftie13 Жыл бұрын
Lol yeah the exact same thing happened to me. I guess we got manipulated by all the aesthetic glitter and glamorisation and ignored the obvious red flags.
@najmaht.a.1314
@najmaht.a.1314 3 жыл бұрын
Is “let’s sexualize children to show that sexualizing children is bad!” its own genre now?
@MR-ek6yk
@MR-ek6yk 3 жыл бұрын
For real! I'd like to ask the ppl defending stuff like this how they feel about child beauty pageants...
@userjoao
@userjoao 3 жыл бұрын
euphoria doesn’t sexualize CHILDREN though. the fundamental problem with Cuties was that the actresses were grossly under 18. the actors in euphoria are in their 20s
@najmaht.a.1314
@najmaht.a.1314 3 жыл бұрын
@@userjoao yes i commented before watching the video that was my bad
@userjoao
@userjoao 3 жыл бұрын
@@ola-np6gw i agree with you i just think the comparison with cuties isn’t fair. the latter is way more vile because actual children are explored in the process
@userjoao
@userjoao 3 жыл бұрын
@Xbox One iguess i meant it isn’t sexualizing real life existing children only fictional ones which is still miles different from the other one. stop digging me
@GoddessSunshine
@GoddessSunshine 3 жыл бұрын
I think that's why IF I watch teen shows their usually k-dramas and animes. They tend to focus on the actual school aspect and if romance is included, the speculate of sexual exploration isn't the HUGE glorified arc.
@ameramangopie
@ameramangopie 3 жыл бұрын
Same but sometimes their stories become unrelatable and unrealistic but that's why better than naked teens
@samsonright936
@samsonright936 3 жыл бұрын
Omg yes, that’s why I gravitate to kdramas nowadays because they’re high school concepts are so pure and oddly grounded in reality despite a lot of the plot lines surrounding high schoolers being dramatic. The problem with America is that Hollywood needs to sexualize EVERYTHING in order to gain some profit because people here or so hyper sexual that they won’t watch something unless it’s overly sexual
@JuliBom
@JuliBom 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I also watched this Norwegian mini show called SKAM, that became immensely popular in the way they handled teenagers, and that got remade into several European remakes including a US one set in Austin. Prob one of the realest HS shows Ive seen plus or minus a few flaws
@SwieczkaNiweaniewierzeDarek
@SwieczkaNiweaniewierzeDarek 3 жыл бұрын
@@JuliBom Yes, SKAM was great, but honestly, it wasn't that far away from Euphoria, except being less explicit and overall having a much lighter tone to it. I like Euphoria for how raw it is, it shows how damaged all these characters are, I honestly don't know how people see it as romanticizing this type of behavior, most of these teens are broken and neglected, with apparent mental issues. It's definitely more of a warning, and as a European, I can tell you, Euphoria's portrayal of teens is not that far from reality, when it comes to European big-city teenage communities at least.
@ciel5565
@ciel5565 3 жыл бұрын
i agree with you about k-dramas for sure, but definitely not anime. anime tends to have more issues than even western shows when it comes to sexualizing minors ( namely women ). shoujo as a genre tends to not be very sexual, but that doesn’t mean you don’t run into your fair share of sexual things and / or problematic tropes. a great example of this would be a shoujo manga that got immensely popular in the west a few years ago that goes by the english name, daytime shooting star. its plot revolves around a love triangle which involves the protagonist’s teacher. that’s just one example out of many, many others, but japan has an EXTREME issue with sexualizing minors, even children, within anime and manga.
@ceecee8090
@ceecee8090 3 жыл бұрын
The show is mostly popular because of zendaya imo.
@didostempest2966
@didostempest2966 3 жыл бұрын
I remember when her brand was being the proper Disney star, and she cared about her young fans. 💰 changes people..
@abidanger843
@abidanger843 3 жыл бұрын
@@didostempest2966 Or maybe she became an adult.
@steviesosa5617
@steviesosa5617 3 жыл бұрын
@@abidanger843 Yes but she's portraying a teenager, a minor, a CHILD. If she's changed her image since she's an adult, she shouldn't be booking gigs acting like a child, doing adult activities. She's morally bankrupt and it's due to money.
@joydanleigh7711
@joydanleigh7711 3 жыл бұрын
Speaking of Zendaya Aaliyah lifetime biopic hint hint
@afroloyalty2952
@afroloyalty2952 3 жыл бұрын
Facts
@marlisanordeus7930
@marlisanordeus7930 2 жыл бұрын
I would also like to add that zendaya the MAIN CHARACTER never went nude💀 so there was no point in having so many nudes scenes to create realism
@sgtmian
@sgtmian 2 жыл бұрын
using sex as a way to get validation isn't part of her character though. for cassie for example, it definitely is. you can still argue some of her scenes were unnecessary, but that is a huge part of her character arc and her insecuritites. same for kat.
@marlisanordeus7930
@marlisanordeus7930 2 жыл бұрын
@@sgtmian cassie used relationships for validation. It wasn’t the sex specifically. She felt like she needed to have sex with the men she dated because she knew that what they wanted from her. A simple scene with her removing her clothes and cutting to the next scene would’ve sufficed. Us the audience would know “hey they just did something.” the excessive nudity was not needed
@AmiAki
@AmiAki Жыл бұрын
@@marlisanordeus7930 so? they don’t have to show all those explicit sexual and nudity of Cassie for the viewers to understand she using sex for validation
@RandomSwiftie13
@RandomSwiftie13 Жыл бұрын
Zendaya is a lot more famous and a co-producer so she decided what she wants and doesn't want where as less famous cast had to go through so many fetishisation.
@pyromaniac709
@pyromaniac709 Жыл бұрын
Guess shes too famous to pressure her into that? Sydney was sexualized back and forth cuz she inst that famous so she has to climb that ladder i guess🤔
@wuraolaolagunju
@wuraolaolagunju 3 жыл бұрын
If you want to watch a really good teen based show, watch Derry Girls. Its about 4 Irish girls and an english boy set in 90s era Ireland its hilarious, heart warming but it does NOT gloss over the horrible times during The Troubles.
@erinnadia0409
@erinnadia0409 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! My family grew up in Derry so I was so excited when this show came out and I love how funny it was but still had the topics of what life in north Ireland is like
@anime-tm6dh
@anime-tm6dh 3 жыл бұрын
Omg I loveeeeeed Derry Girls. Thought it was hilarious
@Osakashi-ls2oc
@Osakashi-ls2oc 3 жыл бұрын
But that also depicts “minor sex”
@ceci9570
@ceci9570 3 жыл бұрын
@@Osakashi-ls2oc did u watch the video
@mariakiwi1428
@mariakiwi1428 3 жыл бұрын
It was so goooooodddd
@Curlyography
@Curlyography 3 жыл бұрын
As an adult, I've ALWAYS thought showing actors playing teenagers in sexual scenes is soooo creepy and unnecessary. *shudders*
@stxrstrxckmxteo515
@stxrstrxckmxteo515 3 жыл бұрын
Yup
@apexknight9356
@apexknight9356 3 жыл бұрын
Ikr. Back when I was a teenager, I used to think that was normal. It wasn’t until I turned 22 and looked back on all the shows that did this and I was like ... yo, what???
@rainyfeathers9148
@rainyfeathers9148 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! It's not okay🤦🏾‍♀️. Even if the actor is an adult it's so nAsTy
@quilaviper
@quilaviper 3 жыл бұрын
"SOME teenagers, not all" THANK YOU, it's like people forget that the majority of high schoolers aren't that fucking overkill. It was the same with my high school, most people were chill and drama-less and there was VERY little big party/getting drunk life around (and i went to regular-ass public school, just graduated a few years ago) People just take the extremes of teenage behaviour and assume it's the norm and it pisses me off
@katet8639
@katet8639 3 жыл бұрын
So true, my high school was just normal. The only thing some people did was weed smoking or parties and once in a while there were bad rumors. But most people had just regular and chill lives. These shows always make things a bit dramatic for shock value but maybe this is unrealistic to me because of my school, country or because I'm an introvert that didn't really do ''experimental'' shit during that time hahaha
@quilaviper
@quilaviper 3 жыл бұрын
@@katet8639 Yeah, precisely! It's like, there might be some "realism" in these shows for the wilder teenagers, but this is very inaccurate in representing ALL teenage life lmao. I'm an introvert too, as were most of my friends, but even the extroverts at my school didn't do wild stuff like this. (Most of them didn't, anyway.)
@Realisticallyliteral
@Realisticallyliteral 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe just maybe it's because "normal teens" who don't do anything but watch KZbin and do homework make for shitty television.
@izzydandrea7548
@izzydandrea7548 3 жыл бұрын
My highschool was more like euphoria but I went to a private school. Idk how to explain it but when kids have money and time they do fucked up shit idk.
@josecarmona4459
@josecarmona4459 3 жыл бұрын
I think these huge parties in teen movies are actually adult parties written into to teen films slash shows.
@lep2525
@lep2525 2 жыл бұрын
The showrunner really seems like a creep. He's probably got some Weinstein-esque skeletons in his closet that will likely surface in the coming years.
@elliottpatterson9343
@elliottpatterson9343 2 жыл бұрын
Bruh no joke,,,I just found out Drakes been producing this shit since day one, and has been on settttttt. Ive been so creeped out knwoing this factor
@lep2525
@lep2525 2 жыл бұрын
@@elliottpatterson9343 oh I didn't know he was producing it. Yuck. 2 creeps involved in 1 overly-sexualized project is a recipe for disaster.
@christinexy2516
@christinexy2516 2 жыл бұрын
bro Sam Levinson is such a creep. his art shows how weird he is, I can’t i see it
@sulekhamane5653
@sulekhamane5653 2 жыл бұрын
Won't be surprised if down the line, we find some "Dan Schneidr shit" from Sam too
@allbutperfect
@allbutperfect Жыл бұрын
After The Idol, absolutely 100% yes. It is a matter of time...
@nmlx7710
@nmlx7710 3 жыл бұрын
Nah, COME ON you can’t RUSH through the “Brooding hot 25 year old teenager” song! 🤣 I protest!
@lovelypanda2962
@lovelypanda2962 3 жыл бұрын
Wanted to comment the same thing 😂 Where do I sign up for the protest 🙋🏾‍♀️🙋🏾‍♀️
@michellemulenga3053
@michellemulenga3053 3 жыл бұрын
She rushed through it😭💀
@naveenakhedar
@naveenakhedar 3 жыл бұрын
TBH25YOT (The Brooding Hot 25 Year Old Teenager)
@aronbrown7286
@aronbrown7286 3 жыл бұрын
FUN FACT: I once pitched a show about college age people doing stuff like this and got the note that "University shows don't sell, but high school shows do." Which is..... Hmmmmmm
@LoveK1
@LoveK1 3 жыл бұрын
Oh my god, that just gave me the chills. Jesus.
@didostempest2966
@didostempest2966 3 жыл бұрын
No ma’am, no sir. That’s creepy!
@yonyokai4593
@yonyokai4593 3 жыл бұрын
I guess it has to do with the fact that university isn’t really as common as high school, because college is private in America usually the people who go there are either privileged or very smart and school focused... and usually that kind of people isn’t that appealing to the kind of shows they’re doing... but at the same time theres teenage shows like pretty little liars of very privileged teenage girls and that could’ve 100% happened in university so yeah its pretty fucked.
@westpeace
@westpeace 3 жыл бұрын
grown-ish would like to know their location
@aronbrown7286
@aronbrown7286 3 жыл бұрын
@@sephirothswh0re598 I pitched it to a production company I had worked with in the past! It was funny bc they were drawing on their college experiences when we were coming up with this idea, but when I was like "Wait so why not college?" they said that it didn't sell.
@lindsey4620
@lindsey4620 3 жыл бұрын
It’s shows like these that make me feel....groomed? I had the most boring high school experience but I always felt and still feel “behind” because of these teen based shows and movies. There’s only two movies I’ve ever seen that felt anywhere close to my high school experience and that’s Booksmart and Yes God Yes- especially considering sexuality
@incharak1927
@incharak1927 3 жыл бұрын
Same. I felt like I wasn't living my life properly. Now that I'm 18, I think back on the stupid stuff I wish happened, so that I could have felt like my life had significance which is what these shows and movies had me believing 🤦🏻‍♀️
@thelittleunicorn6196
@thelittleunicorn6196 3 жыл бұрын
I could not have said it any better. I agree 100%
@didostempest2966
@didostempest2966 3 жыл бұрын
Media can absolutely groom. Stockholm syndrome is almost stronger bc there’s no one person to blame, it doesn’t feel real until you start trying to act grown up and do something uncomfortable. Glad you copped it and I hope you’re doing well, all of you.
@heyjojo7919
@heyjojo7919 3 жыл бұрын
THIS!! I am 18 now and in my first year of college, but I always felt like a child compared to people my age because they were doing all these wild things that I had no interest in doing at the time. It felt like something was wrong with me because I wasn't as interested in sex as they were. And it made me feel like there's something wrong with me.
@GeneTonics
@GeneTonics 3 жыл бұрын
Dude yeah I'd be sitting watching this like "wtf I didn't lose my virginity til I was 22 wtf is everyone else doing? Lmao"
@cheriebomb158
@cheriebomb158 2 жыл бұрын
I am proudly an anti-euphoria pioneer lmao. I remember watching it in 2019 and being like the only person criticizing it. It’s only been until recently that I have seen more people speaking out about the creepiness of it. And as you watch further there is a lot of homophobic and racist stereotypes wrapped up in a pretty, glittery bow. Also the writing is just bad, Sam Levinson is trash.
@lu22-c3x
@lu22-c3x 2 жыл бұрын
i agree with you but what are the homophobic and racist stereotypes? maybe i didnt recognize it but i cant remember that
@izzyc127
@izzyc127 2 жыл бұрын
@@lu22-c3x Maddy is made as the spicy Latina mean girl who comes from a family with a drunken father and a mom who works in a lower class job.
@splinter5024
@splinter5024 2 жыл бұрын
the writing is bad? what a horrible fucking take lmao explain rue's special episode. that was some of the best writing and television out there, coming from a film major. i agree that there are a lot of questionable aspects concerning the show but the way it portrays drug addiction and how damaging it can be is scarily accurate. not to mention the cinematography is absolutely stunning and is a smart juxtaposition to the heavy substance of the show itself.
@VS-uh6rf
@VS-uh6rf 2 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU. People say it tears down stereotypes, it does not whatsoever. Cassie, a girl who is always recognized for her chest, ends up cheating on her boyfriend and sending nudes (s*ut trope). Maddy is the "Spicy Latina" mean girl. Lexi happens to be the only one out of all the girls who seems to care about her grades and dresses like Bob Ross instead of sexy _____ for Halloween (the smart girl in the popular friend group). It's all over the place. It has it's moments but overall, it is not revolutionary
@barbarismbeginsathome
@barbarismbeginsathome 2 жыл бұрын
Sam Levinson uses his access to minority groups or struggles to tell minorities what their experiences are and I hate him for it
@ffflustered9qr
@ffflustered9qr 3 жыл бұрын
“This show about teenagers can’t even be watched by teenagers!” Well said. Subscribed 👏🤴👍🏾
@MeMarcusTheCreator
@MeMarcusTheCreator 2 жыл бұрын
True. I’m not allowed to watch it and I’m 16
@asherscoochiestinksasher7542
@asherscoochiestinksasher7542 2 жыл бұрын
@@MeMarcusTheCreator my little sister whose 12 watches that show 🥶🤚
@MeMarcusTheCreator
@MeMarcusTheCreator 2 жыл бұрын
@@asherscoochiestinksasher7542 🙊
@whywhat5457
@whywhat5457 2 жыл бұрын
@@asherscoochiestinksasher7542 pls if she is you real sibling stop her now . It can really damage her . I also stopped my cousin from watching the show . She was watching bcuz it is very popular among her friends.
@asherscoochiestinksasher7542
@asherscoochiestinksasher7542 2 жыл бұрын
@@whywhat5457 I did lol I told my Mom
@Persepholeigh
@Persepholeigh 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that it's mostly underage girls is a very disgusting reflection of how we see teenage girls as a society.
@LemonAide
@LemonAide 3 жыл бұрын
Periodt 🙌
@paperbrained
@paperbrained 2 жыл бұрын
I agree, the fact that Euphoria has pretty much sexualized all underage female characters under the guise of it being aesthetic but didn't do the same to the men/ boys, even some of the same scenes was a bit scary to me. Especially after finding out the directors are grown men, and this is how they are portraying their "vision". Like, have we learned nothing from past shows with older male directors and how they view "younger" actresses, or how they have young actresses play out what they think young girls could behave? Idk (thank you for letting me ramble off my thoughts haha) Edit: It has taken 3 of the female actresses talking about Sam asking for excessive nudity for people to tale a step back and think, "huh maybe there is something wrong here". I'm glad that the public is now having this discussion but disappointed this is happening to women in this industry once again. Do not let these actress's talent be overshadowed by the 'male gaze' Sam desperately caters to!
@Dorkeydaze
@Dorkeydaze 2 жыл бұрын
I was exposed to a lot of stuff as child so I could almost relate to Nate but it’s in a very socially conscious way, and I would of corse never hurt anyone. When I see shows like this it makes me wonder how people with so much wealth and privilege could still exploit literal children
@tico5058
@tico5058 2 жыл бұрын
@@paperbrained There was more male nudity in this show than any nudity of women
@paperbrained
@paperbrained 2 жыл бұрын
@@tico5058 By using the word "sexualized" i mean put into sexual scenarios, not just explicitly showing genitalia or more upfront "crude" forms. Like yeah they showed dicks, half of people with internet access have been sent or seen an unsolicited dick pic before (to put it bluntly lol). However, Euphoria and its nuance of sexuality in regards to the girls, especially girls portrayed as underage, and violence is completely one-sided in my opinion. Underage girl experiences violence and harassment at the hand of illegally older man with predatory behavior, underage girl experiences violence in relationship, etc. Male sexualization just never really comes close to how much directors like to see the female sexualization run with violence. idk if i made sense as sometimes its hard to type down all your thoughts on things especially when you've got so many and bc im about to go to bed but i'd love to engage in a friendly discussion about it ! 👀 ( i also realize since i had made my last comment that season 2 has aired and they have continued to just flash the audience with male genitalia again, which is what it is at this point, but still linger on the 'underage' girls during the sex scenes, imo ofc!) Hope this helps to explain my take a bit more! :)
@raaychiel_2222
@raaychiel_2222 3 жыл бұрын
The scariest thing is if teens aren’t meant to watch the show why would they make the characters teens... that makes me feel ✨icky✨
@mochijellybean
@mochijellybean 3 жыл бұрын
same reason why the high schoolers in riverdale act the way they do. the people making these shows need to be questioned lmao
@carolinewheeler77
@carolinewheeler77 3 жыл бұрын
Best case scenario it’s for adults to look back on their highschool lives. Worst case scenario...ew
@laurenalessandra123
@laurenalessandra123 2 жыл бұрын
What I wish we would realise is that there are actual child actors out there, that do a wonderful job. But in these shows, instead of getting the age matched, they get adults to be the children, because they KNOW THAT ITS WRONG. Soooo, my point is, if you wouldn’t hire an actual child the age to act because it’s inappropriate, maybe just don’t do the inappropriate shit full stop
@splinter5024
@splinter5024 2 жыл бұрын
or maybe they use adults so they're able to show more of a representation of what a lot of underaged kids actually go through and do? are you actually that dense? lmao
@splinter5024
@splinter5024 2 жыл бұрын
​@D. MK. "you must be in hs" coming from you that's pretty comedic
@jennybe4766
@jennybe4766 2 жыл бұрын
to be fair, most of the time studios hire adults to play teens because teens are not allowed to work as much as adults timewise, they are also not allowed to work after certain hours etc. I'm not defending Euphoria but that's just the reason why the majority of casting directors keep casting adults as minors.
@thatitalianlameguy2235
@thatitalianlameguy2235 2 жыл бұрын
@@splinter5024 adults can represent kids better than kids?
@coolcrabsavethegoats2496
@coolcrabsavethegoats2496 2 жыл бұрын
@@splinter5024 I think what they're trying to say is "If it's questionable for a highschooler to play the role of a highschooler, then maybe you should look back at the writing"
@defiantaichi
@defiantaichi 3 жыл бұрын
Americans sexualising teens is why I’ve never been into western teen shows since childhood. Drake and josh and Lizzie maguire and Hannah Montana were way better in that aspect, as childish as they were. Over sexualisation in the west is also why I think Asian dramas got popular. The avg Asian drama is very conservative like tha
@Snow-xd4rv
@Snow-xd4rv 3 жыл бұрын
Same I can never get into western tv shows with teenagers in it. It’s absolutely disgusting, and the media thinks all teenagers enjoy this shit, when some of us don’t. I’m strictly a cartoon, book and anime person. Will never watched a single one of these shows, as an American teen of course. I hate how we are all depicted as this.
@lunalya_3
@lunalya_3 3 жыл бұрын
Y’all know some good Asian teen dramas that might be worth watching 🥺👉🏻👈🏻
@simplysimpy17
@simplysimpy17 3 жыл бұрын
@@lunalya_3 sweet revenge is a good one. The character development is really good, storyline is kinda generic (but i still like it xD), the main character is actual relatable human being. Also its a rom-com without the toxic aspects xD
@strwbrru4788
@strwbrru4788 3 жыл бұрын
i never thought about the rise of asian drama in that way till now good point :0
@sofiasalsabila9264
@sofiasalsabila9264 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I havent been into these kins of western shows after watching euphoria, I just got so tired of the depiction of hypersexualized teens so Ive been consuming a lot of asian content from Thailand and East Asia.
@rowanh420
@rowanh420 3 жыл бұрын
“i am not okay with this” is a short teen show on netflix that explores sexuality without actual sex scenes
@ren7220
@ren7220 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds awesome.
@bchemptyyeetttt
@bchemptyyeetttt 3 жыл бұрын
They cancelled it, there won't be a second season. Literally, the only show that actually portraits teens as they are, is cancelled
@ilikedogs1022
@ilikedogs1022 3 жыл бұрын
yes, i love this show so much because of how well they did it
@sky-eh4wy
@sky-eh4wy 3 жыл бұрын
and guess what? it got cancelled despise being loved by the audience
@jess5839
@jess5839 3 жыл бұрын
Yes I love that show! I’m so glad they didn’t show any sex scenes because that just makes me uncomfortable and it just feels awkward watching those scenes. Too bad it got canceled :((
@probably_beth
@probably_beth 3 жыл бұрын
This is the reason i never even considered this show, my ass can't even sit through an episode of riverdale with my little sister without giving her 3+ speeches about how its unhealthy for her mind
@audramcdonaldapologist3676
@audramcdonaldapologist3676 3 жыл бұрын
You must be fun at parties 🙄
@bellesimp2457
@bellesimp2457 3 жыл бұрын
@@audramcdonaldapologist3676 lol
@kieran7920
@kieran7920 3 жыл бұрын
Riverdale was so painful to watch right off the bat. It’s good you’re telling her why it’s unhealthy, I could’ve used that when kid me thought twilight was peak romance lol
@ameya6967
@ameya6967 3 жыл бұрын
same!!! i really don’t want my sister growing up watching things like riverdale, the kissing booth, etc, and ending up with a toxic mindset. i try to explain to her as much as possible too
@doriannepontez9757
@doriannepontez9757 3 жыл бұрын
Riverdale was so painful to watch that I dropped mid-season 2. That show was playing with both my emotional and mental. When they had Betty strip in front of old men in a bar was when I knew I had to drop that show
@marisawojcikiewicz8148
@marisawojcikiewicz8148 Жыл бұрын
This is a comfort video for me because it puts me at peace to listen to someone talk so much sense.
@ajones2367
@ajones2367 3 жыл бұрын
I think the most irritating thing about euphoria is that for the people who *do* relate to it, they get angry when it receives any criticism. they see it as someone talking badly about their traumas ( which is not the case )
@emitheorbit1118
@emitheorbit1118 3 жыл бұрын
For some reason, they can't differentiate between personal experience and general experience.
@Snow-xd4rv
@Snow-xd4rv 3 жыл бұрын
**cough** hot mamma21 **cough** , responding to ever bit of criticism in the comments about Euphoria.
@littlewagers
@littlewagers 3 жыл бұрын
As a minor, this show's depiction of mental illness and addiction and other issues was very therapeutic but the sex scenes/nudity made me very uncomfortable.
@gretchen4443
@gretchen4443 3 жыл бұрын
exactly. and everything with kat’s character being a literal sex worker to be “confident” i am a big fan of euphoria but i always skip those scenes.
@maviedis596
@maviedis596 3 жыл бұрын
@@gretchen4443 I watched the clips of the girl that becomes a sexual worker in a short video and I sort of liked it, then I knew she was supossed to be in highschool and ew no
@Stressed_Geologist
@Stressed_Geologist 3 жыл бұрын
Your high school experience is 100% relatable for me. I used to be so afraid that people would make fun of me for wanting to wait until marriage to have sex, but when I got to high school, people literally couldn't have cared less
@colette5413
@colette5413 3 жыл бұрын
totally
@anahniharris8261
@anahniharris8261 3 жыл бұрын
Must be nice🙃🙃
@_-zinny-_was_here9376
@_-zinny-_was_here9376 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly😤👏👏
@RaetheSaint
@RaetheSaint 3 жыл бұрын
Sameeee
@botlhaleklassen4091
@botlhaleklassen4091 2 жыл бұрын
This is embarrassing because I only started watching Euphoria yesterday. 2 episodes in and I knew I would never watch another minute of this show. I thought I was crazy to have such feelings towards this popular, hyped up show. I'm glad I found this video, it kind of validates my thoughts & feelings on the show. I also feel like I have found my people haha 😂
@HadassaMoon144
@HadassaMoon144 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad too! This kind of media is being normalized and I really can't stand it. Too much sensationalism that leads to teenagers romanticizing this trash. Some of the behaviors and actions may be reality for a very small number of real teens, but it's not for most.
@heroshinx693
@heroshinx693 2 жыл бұрын
My watchlist is long so when I watch the foetus dialogue ,I immediately stop watching, too fucking edgy for me
@ikkydee99
@ikkydee99 2 жыл бұрын
watched 5 episodes just bc the second season came out and I was bombarded with clips of it on yt. Won't be watching it ever again, it almost gave me a panic attack ahaha
@botlhaleklassen4091
@botlhaleklassen4091 2 жыл бұрын
@@ikkydee99 😯I honestly can't believe you made it to 5 😭hope you're not too traumatised
@meinkraft501
@meinkraft501 2 жыл бұрын
Ok. Bye nerd
@synclair9809
@synclair9809 3 жыл бұрын
I think that the “aesthetically pleasing” part of show is distracting people from seeing its real issues. Granted I do appreciate the discussion of mental illness in this show and how it is portrayed. But the sexually explicit scenes are unnecessary. If this show didn’t have all of the aesthetically pleasing aspects to it, it would just be like any other basic show about teenagers in high school with way too many sex scenes.
@abirami9481
@abirami9481 3 жыл бұрын
This is exactly why I just look and the screenshots on pinterest and watch those funny compilations, I couldn't even get through the first episode but I really like how the show looks....but the premise makes me uncomfy
@lanakat
@lanakat 3 жыл бұрын
watch the special episode in euphoria and come back to me. it was an hour long of just TALKING, TWO PEOPLE sitting together talking in a diner about real topics and such deep stuff, it was like a therapy session everyone needed to hear. watch that episode and you'll see the show is much deeper and better than what yall seem to think its only about.
@lanakat
@lanakat 3 жыл бұрын
@@abirami9481 you should watch the special episode of euphoria then, its just two people sitting in a diner talking about such real deep heavy topics and it really hit home.. it shows that the show isn't just about what yall think about it. the episode was literally just a conversation between two people that I think everybody needs to hear, it was SO well written and the fact that they were able to make 54 minutes of just people having a simple conversation so engaging was amazing. watch it and you wont regret it.
@abirami9481
@abirami9481 3 жыл бұрын
@@lanakat okay!
@crumbyflower
@crumbyflower 3 жыл бұрын
period
@hleebeg
@hleebeg 3 жыл бұрын
I also don't like how it makes kids feel like they can have a relationship with adults and be in control or that it's ok and in fact normal. No matter how mature you are for your age, it's still illegal and for good reason.
@reoij
@reoij 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@gg_kinz
@gg_kinz 3 жыл бұрын
its not illegal here and many states
@hleebeg
@hleebeg 3 жыл бұрын
@@gg_kinz it is illegal unless you're married, not that that makes it any better. It's stachitory rape if the person is 18+ and the child is under 18, even if they are at the age of concent for that state or country. I know it's not the same in all states but still.
@gg_kinz
@gg_kinz 3 жыл бұрын
@@hleebeg it's not
@hleebeg
@hleebeg 3 жыл бұрын
@@gg_kinz what is it?
@jazzmurphy3045
@jazzmurphy3045 2 жыл бұрын
shows like euphoria are why teenagers are so okay with over-sexulising themselves online, because shows like this make it so normalised.
@BellyCheese
@BellyCheese 2 жыл бұрын
The show literally highlights why these are dangerous and have big consequences this does not promote teenagers sexualising themselves.
@nidaj5797
@nidaj5797 2 жыл бұрын
@@BellyCheese I love this show but it in a way over sexualizing minors, the way the people in euphoria come across makes it look like its fun and empowering when sexualizing themselves like example when Kat shows her body to people online for money and attention, or scenes like Nate and his friends watching inappropriate videos and pictures of Cassie. These are real issues that the show is putting out there but I think there could be a better way to approach it than sexualizing minor characters on a show that is for people 18+ even though most watchers are teenagers that could be easily influenced to do things like this if they're not as educated on the consequences of their actions even though a good amount of teens know not to do this.
@TM-wt5wq
@TM-wt5wq 2 жыл бұрын
So... teen propaganda
@TM-wt5wq
@TM-wt5wq 2 жыл бұрын
@@BellyCheese please watch the video you're commenting under, at least a part of it
@onetimeiateanindonesianguy6183
@onetimeiateanindonesianguy6183 2 жыл бұрын
You’re all puppets to be manipulated by the elit. They want you to be malleable and the biggest proof of that is how quick people are to attack you for contradicting opinions.
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