Succession | Inside the Episode: Season 4, Episode 8 | Max

[@pri_said]

Jeremy Strong and Sarah Snook’s eye contact this episode is simply Emmy worthy.

[@Upsallauniversity123]

Matthew's confusion about tom being a father deserves emmy look 😊

[@AA-qb7ni]

Greg is a menace. Putting wasabi in people's eyes and outing Shiv 😂😂

[@TogetherAtLast]

Honestly I feel like he’s playing dumb bc that was all intentional

[@bubastis6306]

Greg is definitely I, Claudiusing it right now

[@mojiyoru6441]

Greg is definitely pretending at this point. That's his game

[@malalford]

Greg will fire Tom. Just... calling it... Pending

[@francescaa8331]

​@@malalford 😆

[@icedmochafiend]

this episode was so painful to watch, it felt like jesse was saying “y’all got too comfortable rooting for these horrible people. let me remind you very quickly and very painfully just how vile they really are.”

[@Paholies]

100%

[@cr3160]

mencken is great wdym

[@sagarthegreatable]

@@cr3160 they will call anyone who they don’t agree with facists that’s what they do mencken did not say anything related to facsim😂

[@jorgeskuf]

@@sagarthegreatable bro you really out here defending Mencken with your life. Re-watch the episode. When Mencken calls Roman into his room and asks him to control the narrative and crown him the presidency even if doesn't actually win the election, what do you think that is? What was the reason for that?

[@sagarthegreatable]

@@jorgeskuf every politician does that he is not a good person but definitely not a fascist u guys use that term quite loosely without knowing the meaning of it in the end it’s the people who will decide anyways

[@michaelkelly7893]

Tom is just so broken and is holding nothing back now. A man with nothing to lose is a dangerous man.

[@danielplastrik45]

His reaction to Shiv’s pregnancy while cruel was understandable. She’s deceived him so many times before, how does she expect him to ever believe a word she says?

[@rithikdhakshnamoorthy2974]

@@danielplastrik45Well,is it true?

[@ricardorivera7549]

@@danielplastrik45 actually in the episode commentary (long version) the director said he wanted to hurt shiv. so he didnt cared at the moment if he believed her or not, just wanted to hurt her. also, remember he is coked up lol the guy is unhinged this episode.

[@TisDana]

@@rithikdhakshnamoorthy2974 you think the doctor was lying when she told Shiv to schedule her 20 week exam?

[@mitalikshatriya6365]

I think i have seen her drink multiple times after that

[@koyaanii3593]

Suspicious Kendall behind glass is the best and most badass glass scene in Succession ever P.S. and Greg SMILED for a second!

[@francescaa8331]

At the last minute when Greg is looking at her through the glass. Like what did you expect, and then a little smile.

[@koyaanii3593]

@@francescaa8331 OMG i noticed that, and think it seemed to me or not?! now it seems like real. Great that there is community of Succession, when you find out a lot of interesting even after 2 times watching :D

[@amycollins-russell6794]

YES! I saw that, too! He was smiling right at her and all I could think about was how Shiv made that bed all by herself. Every man in that room (and out of it if you count Greg), she'd screwed over or threatened in some way. Then Karma came with a vengeance! Now...who's next?

[@officialthomasjames]

I thought I noticed that, horror movie vibe from Greg.

[@TihetrisWeathersby]

This episode was crazy from start to finish, You could feel the tension and what's at stake

[@chrisjsewell]

Maybe someone can explain to me, but I didn’t really feel the stakes in this episode. Is projecting the winner really changing anything? Obviously all the votes have already been cast, so it doesn’t actually change how people voted or the eventual result 🤷

[@someangel-shape6797]

As Dar explains, if the burnt ballots had been counted Milwaukee would most likely have gone Dem, meaning Jimenez would win the election. By calling Wisconsin for Mencken they essentially make him president.

[@davidtrainor9569]

​@@chrisjsewell I think there was a similar situation with the Bush/Gore election, I doubt it'll go the same way, but it'll lead to dangerous actions by stupid people

[@gabytzugabytzu16]

Well, due to time zone differences people can still vote in some states while ATN projects the winner in other states. It's exactly what happens in real life (look at Turkey yesterday). Pushing the narative in one direction or another can affect the behavior of people that can still vote in their home states.

[@chrisjsewell]

@@gabytzugabytzu16 I’ll watch again at some point, but I didn’t get the sense that the call would in any way change the voting. As an example, Fox were accused of calling Arizona early in the last election, but this was never implied that they were actually rigging the election. I’m not sure if that’s possible in the US

[@MM-ud1xf]

“It’s not that lemony!” was the funniest line of the episode.

[@kurtwagner350]

Roman killing it so much means he’s going down the next two episodes

[@lucaspsm125]

he'll 100% have a breakdown at the funeral

[@I-O-I-]

And I can’t wait to see it lol

[@jericocalzado]

It will be like the time he pushed so hard for the earlier schedule of rocket launch. 🤭

[@dv9239]

they already nerfed him so much

[@robertcross9047]

he can't go down, he had mencken now who is taking almost direct power only way roman can go down now is if he self implodes

[@yojetsharma7549]

Loved it when Ken stood up for Shiv when Tom was being rude against her. Tom’s reaction when Ken asked to back off was priceless 😂😂😂😂

[@bencarlson4300]

It’s a perfect character moment, all three of their reactions made sense.

[@IagoRodriguezDopico]

I honestly don't understand why they have Tom around anymore.

[@jasonchristopher5316]

The conference room scene when Ken finds out about Shiv was just television gold. Ken's moment of realization behind the glass that Shiv never made the call. Shiv's repressively panicked eyes moving with Ken's pace as he walks over to Greg. Ken's stare at Shiv when he returns to the room. Absolute peak television. I found myself pausing the scene multiple times to catch a breath from the tension. I enjoyed this episode so much. I can't wait to see how explosive the last two will be.

[@moniboni92]

The ominous "Things do happen, Rome" line... What a fantastic directing choice. The closeup, the sudden change in pace, tone, even cinematography. Felt like a different show for a split second yet worked so well. They're going down, and Shiv knows it.

[@fat_old_sun]

Really? It felt so cheesy to me -- the cryptic prophecy from a dark corner in the background. I though it was a bit too melodramatic.

[@kateb17w6]

@@fat_old_sun I 100% agree. I thought it was super cheesy. Like an Arnold Schwarzenegger line in an action movie.

[@SillyOzzy]

@@fat_old_sun Ya I didn’t like it either 🤣

[@JoaoVictor-yq8ym]

I feel like this was actually the best episode in the entire series.. so so good

[@dws0828]

Yep I was just going to watch a few minutes before my roommates came home but I just had to watch the whole thing. This show is spectacular

[@magma4168]

What's awesome about this season is that several episodes were actually the best one in the entire series... and then got topped up by another!

[@brianwang123]

Agreed

[@icarian-follies]

agreed!!

[@Anukii]

This episode felt LONG, SO much happened with EVERYONE. That Tom v Shiv fight was EXTRA lethal time despite being far shorter & quieter

[@tvsrn44]

Connor is the manliest man. Accepting defeat like a champ and humbly moving on. ITS TIME FOR CONHEADS!!

[@Despair505]

BRACE YOURSELF AMERICA

[@leleprtk]

I respect MY president 🫡

[@C0H87]

Roman likes to think he’s Logan but it’s clear now that Kendall has quietly embodied Logan’s soul. As he said himself, “the poison drips through”.

[@brandonschutz3636]

He is letting his siblings do his dirty work for him!

[@thecounterattack]

He lurks in a permanent shadow around events as his siblings take more active and aggressive actions

[@Chibbykins]

Being like Logan is not a prize. It's a curse

[@abij8795]

@@thecounterattack I didn’t even think of it like this wow you’re so right that’s exactly what Logan did

[@kailash275]

Greg is used in such a clever way here. Freaking genius

[@karolagonzalez7619]

Kendall acting like his moral compass is on point . Like betraying his siblings is his hobby 👀

[@BatmanHQYT]

This episode felt a lot like Uncut Gems, just increasingly coiling stress and tension from characters yelling over each other and making reckless decisions.

[@filmreviewer117]

You nailed it.

[@Nationlivid]

It’s crazy that each episode is a consecutive day in the world of the show really adds to the tension

[@rapisor]

The Gregginess of this episode! This episode's MVP, snorting coke and spreading wasabi! Love it! 😂

[@MrVisde]

“Are you pretending to do coke, Greg?? Come on, take a real bump!” 😂😂😂

[@joeyjones49]

I’m gonna to work “it’s not that lemony” into every conversation from now on

[@NoraGermain]

Carbonated water in the eye?? Ouch?

[@TH-dg2mm]

Greg trying to rinse someone's eyes with Lemon LaCroix is truly peak television.

[@dielaughing73]

Poor old Dar never got to make his caveats

[@siddhantshukla7259]

ken yelled at tom when he got smart with shiv

[@rcheung135]

I'm so sad there aren't enough Emmys for everyone.

[@praveenvs3896]

I think this episode for me was nightmarishly good. Like, it was so scary to watch how everything plays on election night and no matter how absurd it is, it feels real! I am simultaneously in awe of how this show captures it and also terrified of what world we are living in 🤯 God this show is brilliant 💖

[@louisyeostros4978]

Memories of 2020 election

[@Gunnarrr]

That last line, “things do happen, Rome”, is like Shiv talking about the empire of ancient Rome, on the verge of crumbling down. May be subconsciously, but she’s not talking about her brother here. Brilliant writing.

[@ffranco2572]

I really feel Matsson cuz as a non-American it always seems like y'all are craaaaaazy

[@Nowindresistance]

Is he not American? What’s his nationality?

[@Deletaste]

@@Nowindresistance He's supposed to be swedish... or norwegian... In doubt, he's a viking.

[@rockstar6790]

He’s Swedish. I can relate to seeing American politics as a foreigner. It’s like an asylum.

[@hdattila]

Yeah, good old, sane, down to earth blood sending, old man dancing Matsson.

[@EmanDeMoan]

​@@hdattila 😂😂😂😂

The WASABI SCENE had me crying, man!

[@sidiyer841]

'we just made a night of good TV' yeah you can say that again

[@gffg387]

I have to agree with Gregg. It's not that lemony.

[@ashantimaluleke2267]

" IT'S LEMON GREG!!!" Give Armstrong the Emmy he deserves.

[@BbGun-lw5vi]

That was Tom, not Kendall who said that.

[@ashantimaluleke2267]

@@BbGun-lw5vi yes I know what does that have to do with Jesse Armstrong getting his Emmy?

[@hitarthjoshi3198]

This was one of the best episodes of the whole series and also one of the best episodes on t.v

[@moegreene7940]

Hugo for the win. Simplest joke but I died laughing

[@dielaughing73]

Frank: "Connor was running for President?"

[@danlopez6960]

This episode reminded me how close our recent elections have technically been (electoral college votes, not popular vote) and that neither side should underestimate the other no matter who the candidates are.

[@TogetherAtLast]

Roman just wants to watch the world burn

[@Hockey_00002]

Roman is baby Logan. Wild episode, love it lol.

[@flippalovell]

I feel like Roman is Logan’s ruthlessness, Kendall is his absence as a father, and Shiv is… I have no idea, she doesn’t really share any qualities with Logan. She’s not very smart, and shes not… yeah. My theory that they’re all a piece of Logan’s worst qualities just fell apart lol.

[@BbGun-lw5vi]

@@flippalovell Shiv is manipulative like Logan.

[@EmanDeMoan]

​@@BbGun-lw5vi yes! She's the most manipulative and cruel when it comes to her family

[@samcad-ho3ze]

He’s even growing Logan’s beard.

[@mushy470]

@@flippalovell Shiv is the only one of the siblings that constantly gets told she's exactly like her father

[@nate9198]

Honestly one of the best tv shows I've ever watched hands down.

[@fabiopugliese6472]

what a masterpiece of episode!

[@hellogoditsmesara3569]

Greg has now canonically water boarded someone 😂😂😂

[@Nindi0418]

It's Lemon, Greg! lmao I had to replay that scene at least 5 times, I couldn't stop laughing.

[@arthursdl]

For anyone that lives in any other country, this episode was extra crazy

[@paulbond9999]

Gregg playing 4D chess

[@Grovelaar]

Nah, he’s getting himself killed

[@Lavolpeengreece]

Can’t believe they didn’t talk about Rome and Kendall finding out about Shiv

[@MrGNugget]

The kids about to destroy everything their father built in a matter of days! (Every episode this season has been over the course of a day)

[@ricardorivera7549]

like 2 weeks, but yeah.

[@HungHoang-ss5cb]

Shiv tried to play her siblings the way Tom tried to play her. That’s 0 for 2. Shiv and Tom really do deserve one another. Talk about kindred spirits

[@HA-lo7sj]

I mean, Kendall has been stabbing their family in the back so many times. Roman was going to stab them in the back before his dad died. They're all just terrible people.

[@accidentalfire1727]

Damn, that was a super intense episode. Tom and Greg spin-off is what we need now, Jesse.

[@WillyGrippo]

One of the strongest, deepest and most talented ensemble casts in television history

[@samholder196]

this show is gearing up for an absolute apocalypse of an ending

[@TihetrisWeathersby]

I feel bad for Greg, I didn't notice in previous scenes but being coerced to do drugs like that is messed up, Hopefully he turns on all of them

[@AA-qb7ni]

He already turned on Shiv when he told Kendall about her and Matsson...

[@TihetrisWeathersby]

@@AA-qb7ni I mean all of them, They all treat him like trash

[@JoaoVictor-yq8ym]

It already happened to him in S01 with ken

[@lucaspsm125]

hope he ends up firing tom

[@shivanijoshi9252]

He needs to turn on Tom honestly it will be so cathartic to see tom’s downfall by Greg’s hand.

[@АнастасіяДудік-г6ц]

If this is episode is so intense i'm afraid to think what's gonna happen in finale which also lasts 1 hour 30 minutes. I don't want this series to end but at the same time i want to see this masterpeice

[@NostalgicTheFirst]

Easily one of the best episodes of the series and clearly the second best of the season behind Connor’s Wedding Absolute anarchy and chaos Only thing I was indifferent about was when Shiv says “things do happen Rome” and then she leaves Felt like she was saying it to herself and just came off a tad weird - not successionny Other than that small part, generational episode

[@hdattila]

When the writers realized they can use Roman's name to give the sentence a historical pun they couldn't help themselves. I'll allow it.

[@HA-lo7sj]

I think it was more of an indication, of not only the fall of America but also of the Roys.

[@jayantimaharaj5046]

Another ROMAN EPISODE! Brilliant 😊

[@realtrini2007]

I love roman! and Greg. I think they are ones that are going to win at the end

[@jayantimaharaj5046]

@@realtrini2007 I think so too ! But Shiv is out for blood

[@realtrini2007]

@@jayantimaharaj5046 she is indeed but she has burnt too many bridges.

[@michalalinn]

The way Shiv says: “Things do happen… Rome” is almost like she is referencing Rome not Roman as a foreshadowing that “Rome is gonna burn down” like it did under Nero - who has already been referenced in the series. 😬😬

[@annrodriguez2891]

I love this show

[@jurney3478]

The genius of the show! One of the last things he said to his kids was that he loves them but they're not serious people and every episode post Wedding makes that more true. These kids are idiots and Logan truly was smarter than them all.

[@daediaz186]

I mean their dad died a week ago. Most people would be a disaster too.

[@zeller5095]

Greg is HIM. All hail Cousin Greg. 🫡

[@veragrig8645]

What a great decision making skills under pressure from Roman.

[@dielaughing73]

What's that, pushing one agenda mercilessly and taking advantage of political and interpersonal turmoil for personal gain? Let's see how that works out for him.

[@cerealkiillar]

When Succession's over, I'm gonna need meds.

[@brysonfreeman7226]

Another outstanding episode, but so intense

[@mansonunu]

what an amazing show, actors, writers, producers, directors idk everyone amazing!!

[@rayoliver3387]

Greg just killed Shiv. Who’s next? Roman?

[@filmreviewer117]

This was like succession mixed with Uncut gems and it worked so well.

[@ericlingley7951]

Good one. Yes! 😃

[@tritonneptune3834]

Face it folks, shiv is the "less wrong" one in this situation. As Sarah Snook said, she's as selfish as her brothers but at the end of the day it's about the outcome of it all, and having an actual fascist as the president is objectively worse.

[@officialthomasjames]

Yes Shiv the liberal savior. Cracks me up how Succession paints conservatives as violent fascists, how predictable of them. In real life modern America only one party: shuts down businesses, fires people from their careers for not getting an experimental shot (including military), wants to disarm Americans, and works in unison with the FBI to censor stories that don’t favor the Democrat candidate in an election as well as spy on certain religious institutions. Sound familiar?

[@mschell8022]

But nothing Shiv does or says or believes in can stop having an actual fascist as the president. She is complicit despite how she gets excluded.

[@Anna-xv1ep]

Loved the magazine covers “JIME-NYET” and “Mencken sure …”

[@thisisit2082]

Jesse out here with Americans up here our feeling. Damn, this episode was brutal.

[@boanstvanov1057]

Greg firing Tom is a realistic prediction. Considering the risky move ATN did. I think they will be in trouble. And now with Shiv in the open ,she will freely play with Matsson. In the end Greg is the safest one ,if Matsson wins he will be Matsson's skull crusher and if Kendall and Rome win ,maybe Kendall will keep him on because of the information he gave him.

[@jec3169]

Anyone consider Shiv only told Tom about the pregnancy at that particular moment just so he could do whatever she wanted? Wouldn't be out of character. It sounded desperate more than her genuinely wanting to tell him.

[@ricardorivera7549]

definitely was a move by shiv. prolly try to pulled him to his side to tell him when to announce the decisions. as in "we are having a baby, we are on the same team" type of tactic.

[@TheHQS1mme]

Yes and then she tried the same thing with Kendall in the meeting room and it backfired twice.

[@MrVisde]

Yes, it was a tactic to get Tom on her side for the night. Tom calling her out on it was brutal.

[@bltr2507]

Armstrong has cemented his status as the best screenwriter in the business with this episode.

[@lakshh7]

Did anyone catch what Kendall said towards the end of the show? It's basically the last line after he hangs up the call with Rava.

[@EmanDeMoan]

Yea he said "some people just can't cut a deal, Fikret"

[@Despair505]

@@EmanDeMoan Which of all the deals he was referring to?

[@MrVisde]

@@Despair505 I thought he was referring to the democrat candidate who would’ve been president if they were willing to deal. But yeah, it could apply to a lot of different things…

[@osbtm1258]

@@EmanDeMoan he talking about shiv i think, when she didnt cut a deal with gregg.

[@c0ronariu5]

@@EmanDeMoanI might be dumb, but who is Fikret?

[@readresp8994]

At first I thought: What an extraordinary take on the U.S. by a Brit! Now I realise that screenwriter Jesse Armstrong is applying his razor-sharp perceptions about the uber rich 1% to many democracies that are no longer democratic. What a masterwork he and his colleagues have made: This episode 8 in particular, but also every script in all 4 seasons. Extra kudos: An opinion writer for the New York Times serves as a producer.

[@kinglear7]

Art imitates life. It's insanity how rich people are allowed to influence democracy. Insanity.

[@TioOlavoDoBaralho]

That episode was so tense, they needed to add the wasabi scene midway through to diffuse the tension build up a bit.

[@imirim]

Kendall just twisting in the wind. He was a non-entity in this episode. It's between Shiv and Roman now.

[@daaave_]

Greg absolutely OPERATED this episode

[@98bocinas]

roman was so unbelievably annoying this episode

[@Voyager759]

Tell me you are libtard without telling me you are libtard!

[@ricardorivera7549]

i feel shiv was worst. plotting and scheming, thinking she is smarter than everyone. and when she got put on the spot by ken she cant even say a single coherent sentence to make an excuse or an argument for her actions. Roman is a d**khead, but Shiv's ego is insane.

[@Scotty2413]

@@ricardorivera7549 yeah at least Roman is upfront about what he wants, Shiv acting like she’s this great person but secretly working with Matson for her gain is what pisses everyone off. Like you guys are all terrible people stop acting like you aren’t and this holier than thou attitude.

[@smokeybutterfly3522]

@@Scotty2413 shiv has to be secretive because her brothers barred her from being co-ceo because it looked "cleaner", if roman wasn't co-ceo he'd have to be smoke and mirrors too.

[@kinglear7]

​@@ricardorivera7549 that's a very male answer. Well done.

[@Sunset48]

It’s lemon, its lemon Greg

[@CarlMarxPunk]

This is the episode Roman became Uncle Jack.

[@koho]

Damn, Roman now irredeemable.

[@WhoopsieDayZ]

You're such a simple minded person. Roman and many of the other characters in the show have done a LOT worse things than supporting a different political figure.

[@lucaspsm125]

I mean, it's not like all of them weren't always being responsible for the downfall of modern democracy

[@WhoopsieDayZ]

@@lucaspsm125 I bet you don't even know the basics of human history. You sound like a total clown man. Get a grip.

[@jtom416]

Kendall killed someone 3 seasons ago

[@koho]

@@jtom416 Well, not really. Even so, I'd say Kendall is irredeemable also, for going along with Roman.

[@Deletaste]

Greg burned Shiv. Hope next episode he burns another big fish.

[@kinglear7]

The fact that you think Greg won is hilarious.

[@Deletaste]

@@kinglear7 I don't even think he won, wtf. I'm just saying he burned her, which is very true.

[@tamarakarlas1]

“It’s not that lemony!” 🍋

[@zakchow4390]

Love hearing from these sophisticated producers and creators, but i love more knowing they had Roman say stuff "I bet you say control the narrative when you ***" Hahaha great show better Cast & Crew

[@janechoy2073]

So, is this episode a recap of 2016 or prediction of 2024?

[@Voyager759]

More of 2020!

[@ForeverBrooklynNYC]

Alt Universe Recap of 2020 AND prediction for 2024

[@sciphysystems]

Bit of a riff on the past 2 elections

[@NFH1994]

Hard day for Roman stans

[@chabelitapitufina1342]

I wish the show was not ending.

[@neallee1456]

“Thats LEMON its Lemon Greg”

[@tomyates2551]

Amazingly done, but it gave me PTSD

[@buhlenzimande9303]

JESSE ARMSTRONG - That's all I have to say!!😃

[@groetaer]

oh look it's kieran

[@jackson857]

This episode is a lot of people in real life's nightmare.

[@janettehaggar3232]

I had to take a break a couple of times to process….

[@JoJoJoker]

Greg continues to inch his way to the top. Royco is a news organization and Greg Roy* has the inside scoop. S1E1 foreshadowed all of this. *Greg is a Roy in the same way Shiv’s child is a Roy. …Roman has become cartoonishly evil at this point.

[@MusicViddeos]

What position do you think Greg ends up with at the end?

[@AndrewCossu]

​@MusicViddeos i think cfo potential if he is the one to fire tom then they will play for him being ceo

[@NoraGermain]

Did they forget to attach this to the end of the ep? Nothing after credits for me.

[@robinkrieger8003]

It’s there now….just watched it

[@Nevyn777]

This episode was so painful

[@nickzarecki2764]

Extremely stressful episode

[@princedakkar2251]

Roman has gone full Lachlan Murdoch

[@itsatrap9229]

I love greg so much

[@AlanSmith88888]

Bruh. Lost in all this is Greg's villain arc. That guy is episode by episode becoming a real Roy. Losing all his innocence in the process

[@brigida2350]

Why's this one so short, where's Jeremy

[@Bethune_Groundstaff]

Greg burning Shiv was so satisfying.

[@originaozz]

I feel so icky watching this episode. It's so surreal after my country's own election night, especially the corruption & missing ballots, that feels all too real. Glad our result was actual progress unlike in Succession.😅

[@Voyager759]

So corruption and missing ballots is progress?

[@officialthomasjames]

Progress? Progress? Get off your moral high horse…You do realize Democrats shut down businesses, worked with the FBI/big tech to censor election changing information, worked with the FBI to investigate certain religious institutions, forced people to get an experimental shot (or get fired), and encourages people to get abortions/mutilate their children in the name of “pride.” Wake up already, our country is in the gutter. I didn’t even get to the absolutely horrible economy.