Upgrading lead acid to lithium storage | Destroyed my $1000 BMS |

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HBPowerwall

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Upgrading an old offgrid battery bank from Lead to Lithium. Next morning the guy called me and said. "I could cook toast this morning...." it's a little thing that he couldn't do before the 18650 DIYPowerwall upgrades! Really made me smile.
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@BrunoPOWEEER
@BrunoPOWEEER 5 жыл бұрын
Yeaaahhh I can’t believe how fast you are, you installed everything in less than 12 minutes!!! Electricians would be jealous!! Nice watching you getting out and making some different fun projects helping people out!!
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 5 жыл бұрын
12 weeks more like it lol I want to do this stuff more and more - pitty it's a two hour round trip - there are so many more projects i can do out there. HWS is next
@Kammfrank82
@Kammfrank82 5 жыл бұрын
@@HBPowerwall Love your videos but you have way to much time in those batteries, Lipo from the Ford EV is the way to go, or similar battery, each of my batteries are 3.7 volts at 27ah and have 150 amp discharge rate. Only positive i see with those is the stuff they are making for the 18650 is getting better, like wall mounts and holders. With all that said, i still like playing with my free 18650 batteries lmao
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 5 жыл бұрын
If i had access and finances to buy EV batteries I would in a heartbeat - but this project fits with my wifes budget lol
@user-zj2mb3sp3x
@user-zj2mb3sp3x 4 жыл бұрын
@@HBPowerwall How much money per KWh are you spending when you build these 18650 packs? On ebay Salvaged Volt, Bolt and other similar batteries are selling for really really inexpensive compared to cell prices I've seen.
@bitterrotten
@bitterrotten 5 жыл бұрын
If you’re accepting small criticisms, I would tie down those blue and red cables from the battery banks near the enclosure. If something heavy falls down and catches those cables, there’s a chance they’ll pull out of the screw clamps and make turn the inside of the shed into a pretty sparkler. (Never trust horizontal cable runs).
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 5 жыл бұрын
will do!! Doing it better is key! also have to install the shunt trip in that position so that'll take some horizontal real estate out of the equation
@douglundy5755
@douglundy5755 2 жыл бұрын
hats off to you for sharing your mess up. been there, done that. thought I was connecting two 6v batteries in series and was actually shorting out the whole battery bank and melted the terminals off them! surprisingly easy to fix with a stud drilled into the post but it happens.
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 2 жыл бұрын
Yep mistakes are part of my learning. Sucks but it happens
@darrenbenson2606
@darrenbenson2606 5 жыл бұрын
Great looking setup!!! Don’t feel bad about the Batrium, I know everyone who does anything electronic has seen the magic white smoke more times than they will omit to. Thanks again for all your help,time, and information. The video on the new Batrium BMS you did is better than most commercials on TV.
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 5 жыл бұрын
Magic white smoke needs to be released it's a right of passage lol
@dennisyoung4631
@dennisyoung4631 Жыл бұрын
*Pphhhfffftttt!* Yes, I’ve seen it a few times.
@ratheonhudson3311
@ratheonhudson3311 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the step by step video. I'm actually aiming to update my SLA battery bank to a Lithium power wall similar to this. Yours looks very neat with the custom wire length and breakers. Mine is a 48v array and I harvest 53v at 16amps at 1.31killowatts. Small but it powers plenty. I just need a bigger storage medium. I really need to buy a Batrium monitoring system to gauge what's going through
@nicolaskahn3996
@nicolaskahn3996 4 жыл бұрын
Merci pour cet exposé théorique, beaucoup de personnes ont les mêmes réflexions avec le même genre de matériel, mon avis est que le réchauffeur me semble compliqué à mettre en oeuvre, dans ton exemple il ne dispose que de très peu de volume d'eau et pas de circulation donc quand la résistance va être alimenté je pense que l'installation va très vite se trouver en surpression, je pense que la solution la plus évidente serait de la mettre dans le ballon, chez moi avec un 300l quand il est à température de moyenne c'est 2.7 kwh par jour à gagner donc pas tant que ça pour une installation de 3kwc qui peut produire 15kwh en été.
@rilufuzz
@rilufuzz 5 жыл бұрын
You and Jehu are always my goto for this kind of stuff. Your content is top notch!!
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 5 жыл бұрын
Thank-You bud
@wxfield
@wxfield 4 жыл бұрын
Amazed at how flexible those large gauge cables are. I don't think I have stuff that flexible here in the 'States.
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 4 жыл бұрын
I use fine strand welding cable. Its flexible by design, can carry 300amps continuous & is only $10/m here in australia so it's affordable & easily accessible. Would be nice if it was red and black tho
@adamcecere3369
@adamcecere3369 5 жыл бұрын
That would hurt when you blew up the longmons and watchmon. I guess we can learn from that is to not get too comfortable and triple check our work. 10kw is a lot to have lying around. You must have built quite a number of packs. You do make is look easy, the way you make all the cabling. I quess the right tool for the right job make a difference. Good job again Pete.
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 5 жыл бұрын
there are countless hours of redoos in this video.. really wanted it done well.. now i want to redo it all over again after the hotwater went in lol
@jasonflt
@jasonflt 5 жыл бұрын
really love the setup. complete wiring diagram and list of parts would be awesome as well. Awesome job Pete!
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 5 жыл бұрын
Sure - that'll be next after the HWS video :)
@arlissyoung8899
@arlissyoung8899 5 жыл бұрын
Nice....Very well done! Don't feel bad about the mishap, if makes you feel any better I burnt up a brand new K-Weld. The sad part I had the case for it sitting right there in front of me, got lazy and in a hurry the next thing I knew, ZAP.
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 5 жыл бұрын
It happens :( But moving on if I get another 100k more views on this video I'll be able to replace it lol
@johnmabbott7420
@johnmabbott7420 4 жыл бұрын
you might put drip loops next time, might save the day in a bad rainy day and a leaking roof ?
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 4 жыл бұрын
The change of getting water in that area would be so slim, but couldn't hurt for sure.
@ahaveland
@ahaveland 5 жыл бұрын
Great job Pete - so satisfying to see one of your babies doing good... Seriously chunky cables there! (I think I would have left them a little long with a loop instead of cutting exactly to length, in case the boxes need rearranging later!)
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 5 жыл бұрын
I wanted to do this one as 'right' as possible - sparkie should be out in a few days to do all the final connections and move the breaker panel from the house to the battery shed.
@ahaveland
@ahaveland 5 жыл бұрын
@@HBPowerwall Look forward to seeing final results, just don't forget to do an update video!
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 5 жыл бұрын
Will do for sure!
@randomsaga21
@randomsaga21 3 жыл бұрын
Can a 12v 100w solar panel charge a 24volt battery? What fuse can i use, and if i only use it for a 35 watt gadget, can i use it 24/7 without unplugging it. Please simplify. Thanks
@haythamabdalsattar2947
@haythamabdalsattar2947 5 жыл бұрын
Batruim bms has a problem in the connection wiring. They need to improve to make it more simple and safe. I hope you contact with batrium team to solve wiring issues
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 5 жыл бұрын
I wired it wrong no issue on their part.
@ursodermatt8809
@ursodermatt8809 5 жыл бұрын
@@HBPowerwall well yes, you wired it wrong. however batrium probably mostly sells to the DIY market. so it would certainly be an improvement to make the connections fool proof. also the colour coding markers cannot be seen from all angles. average joe destroyed his batrium control board, now you. and i am sure there are many others.
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 5 жыл бұрын
I guess if their product was in the millions of units not the 100s it would be cost-effective - but I can buy directional tires put them on the wrong side and it's not going to change how they make the tyres.
@ursodermatt8809
@ursodermatt8809 5 жыл бұрын
@@HBPowerwall when average joe wrongly connected the data cables and the batrium control board blew, they changed something so it would not do that anymore. if it is designed from ground up to not self destruct, i don't think it would cost them all that much. it is very easy to wrongly connect. it just happened to you, it happened to average joe and you guys are by far not the least knowledgeable guys.
@Dust599
@Dust599 5 жыл бұрын
@@ursodermatt8809 You cannot make things idiot proof, especially when you make your own cables!
@boostergold9160
@boostergold9160 4 жыл бұрын
this dude can wire my house anytime if I ever covert to solar
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 4 жыл бұрын
I'll blow stuff up for ya lol
@jimthvac100
@jimthvac100 4 жыл бұрын
The thing about these small cells in a large pack is if one cell goes bad how do you find it or replace it. I am thinking it is much easier to build packs using larger cells that are now available. Building packs with hundreds of 18650 cells seems tedious and unnecessary this day and age.
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 4 жыл бұрын
Don't forget i started this process 4 years ago. 18650 cells scale perfectly from 4 cells to 40,000 cells. Anyone from any economic group can build this to suit their needs from a led light to do home work in a remote town in Africa to a whole house setup because I can in Brisbane Australia. New large scale cells come with a high price tag that limmits their ROI.. My time is spent well building these. DIY is diy for a reason.
@ryzenuser0141
@ryzenuser0141 4 жыл бұрын
hi! my understanding is, there is an upside of using a zillion small cells in parallel instead of larger, more expensive units. when a few of these smaller capacity cells get weaker you wouldn need to find and replace them immediately coz overall you'll lose a fraction of an amp with a few weakened cells in a pack of hundreds of them. with time when your pack's cell death rate hits double digit percentage or overall capacity becomes too low only then you may need to rebuild.
@korishan
@korishan 5 жыл бұрын
Don't worry about it Pete, sparky happens 😜 I think we've all done that "doh!" moment when we plug it in incorrectly. Live and learn, buddy, live and learn.
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 5 жыл бұрын
i don't like doh moments that end up like that ....
@korishan
@korishan 5 жыл бұрын
@@HBPowerwall Yeah, nor do I. Especially the expensive kind. But it's very nice and humble of you to have posted this mistake and your feelings on the matter for others to learn 😎😉
@jorgealeman1922
@jorgealeman1922 4 жыл бұрын
lately i been wanting to learn how do do this and been wanting to build something. im JUST starting. helped clean a hoarders house which had 2 kobalt 80V lawn mower batteries which never saw use and degraded just sitting in that rate hole. of the 40 cells i got 20 in good "physical" condition. before i even bother testing charger discharging ( and buying all the relevant equipment) i need to start stocking up to make it worth my time. any suggestions for where i can acquire sources? this weekend im going to ask around at local Lowes/Home depots and see if they are willing to allow me to give some of these battery packs a second life.
@mjpbase1
@mjpbase1 5 жыл бұрын
I'm curious. Why the PCM60x as opposed to using the charge controller built into the PIP? Capacity maybe?
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 5 жыл бұрын
Heat is a big reason but that inverter is 4 yr old and only have pwm controller and 30 amps max at 60v or something. So not efficient
@Kammfrank82
@Kammfrank82 5 жыл бұрын
Very good point, mine has that even the capacity is measured, but it's a programmable mppt, only thing i like is the read out he has on the laptop.
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 5 жыл бұрын
My newer pips have the same ability as the PCM60X but still prefer to keep them separate
@mjpbase1
@mjpbase1 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, a PWM charger is much less desirable. Mine has a built-MPPT charge controller. One advantage to using a built-in charger is efficiency. Solar can be converted directly to A/C within the PIP on demand (when solar is available). Sorry about your Watchmon, by the way.
@SidebandSamurai
@SidebandSamurai 5 жыл бұрын
I really love your channel. I am looking forward to all future videos. Especially when you process your cells from laptop batteries to your power wall I would like to see the the step by step process from shucking (though I have seen your shucking videos already) the cells, to testing to building the pack. I would also love to see how you build the power wall brackets. Anyway Thank you for your hard work ... or is it work, maybe you just play around with stuff all day and call it work :-) Thanks again!
@QuantumBraced
@QuantumBraced 3 жыл бұрын
5:25 Pardon the dumb question, but why do you have a breaker on both the positive and negative? (I know this video is old)
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 3 жыл бұрын
Apparently thats what you're meant to have... so I just run with it
@thisismyname8627
@thisismyname8627 5 жыл бұрын
Remembering that time you shared that meme: "People are shocked to learn im not a very good electrician" But im certain this wont be an issue haha
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 5 жыл бұрын
I didn't do any 'electrician' stuffs lol refuse to touch 240v I don't want to die!
@boblewis5558
@boblewis5558 4 жыл бұрын
@@HBPowerwall Ah! So THAT'S why such low volts! Too many cells in parallel for a config with second hand cells, even with individual fused lines. Jehu Garcia seems to have a much better method of building power walls. And by the way you die MUCH more easily with DC than AC - the current never gets interrupted on DC shocks. That's probably another reason to use 48 volts though right? 192 volts DC is more my idea of getting power from multiple batteries - just like my pro Riello 6kVA UPS! I can run universal power tools or any universal motor directly off that with no conversion and ampage losses.
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 4 жыл бұрын
@@boblewis5558 Jehu's is fantasitc for small jobs, but sucks for scale - seen many more issues with his packs than are public. BUT they are VERY good for small packs don't get me wrong - my next battery is bigger again and I will be adding another 1200 cells soon to this battery. It's been in service for almost a year now and is still super strong with out any signs of issues. Going to pull it out of service and retest each pack and see how it's holding up properly.
@user-th6se5xw1v
@user-th6se5xw1v 5 жыл бұрын
Could you explain the relationship between the solar charge inverter thinking it is charging a lead chemisty and how the batrium deals with that? Does the batrium know to feed dummy voltage data back to the charge controller to get it to back off etc?
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 5 жыл бұрын
charger controller is set to 4v per cell - so 0.2v under it's max safe voltage also CCCV is turned off. Has worked for me for 4 years so far. Batrium doesn't control the inverter at all. But does take care of balance and hws, & soon the shut trip will be fitted to stop all charging & discharging if there is a high/low or hot/cold issue with the batteries. There are 18-20 temp sensors in this setup.
@user-th6se5xw1v
@user-th6se5xw1v 5 жыл бұрын
@@HBPowerwall thanks for the detailed response!
@bradleykaufmann5510
@bradleykaufmann5510 5 жыл бұрын
Great video, do you have any photos/schematics of your parallel group design? Is each cell individually fused to the busbars on the positive end? I'm trying to find a sturdy safe design for 160p groups. These looks nice.
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 5 жыл бұрын
This video explains these ones i made - kzbin.info/www/bejne/h56pnax8rLVrpLs
@42FaLLeNAnGeL24
@42FaLLeNAnGeL24 5 жыл бұрын
Hey from the video u said u installed 14 250watt panels on the pcm60x thats 3500watts of solar. From the pcm60x manual its 3000watt charge controller... how does it deal with the extra wattage.... also from the manual it says its a 60amp charger so if you are charging a 24v battery you would only get alittle over 1500watts charging capacity from the pcm60x therefore you are never going to get the full 3500watts from the solar panels you are only getting half. Am i correct in assuming this is so? And if so why did you set up the system this way? Could have split up the panels between the pcm60x and the pip and you would get closer to the 3000watts charging power....
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 5 жыл бұрын
We have since moved some solar over to the pip inverter but all the panels lay flat on the roof and there is massive shading during winter
@42FaLLeNAnGeL24
@42FaLLeNAnGeL24 5 жыл бұрын
What was the max the pcm60x was giving you when you had the 3500watts connected? I am looking to do almost the same setup and was wondering if the pip and the pcm60x could handle 1620watts each... on a 24v setup
@jayzayas3425
@jayzayas3425 3 жыл бұрын
So I’m New to this and am learning little by little but those little batteries can store up to 10kws which is 10,000 watts right?
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 3 жыл бұрын
watts has nothing to do with kw - watts usage, kw is storage..
@jayzayas3425
@jayzayas3425 3 жыл бұрын
Yes but 1,000 watts is 1 kw is it not? So if I’m doing math calculating how many watts i use in my home that will define how many solar panels i need right or wrong?
@RASHiDALi143
@RASHiDALi143 5 жыл бұрын
I much pleasure to see clean work and use pure technical electro parts.wow
@jtveg
@jtveg 4 жыл бұрын
8:03 What is the purpose of the shunt and how is it being monitored if the input to the shunt only goes from the solar controller straight to the inverter and nowhere else? Isn't the purpose of the shunt to be able to measure battery charging current? This means you'd need to measure the voltage across the shunt itself, right? Is there a wire I can't see or am I missing something?
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 4 жыл бұрын
The shunt is for the Batrium BMS, takes care of all the SOC of the battery between solar, battery, inverter .
@jtveg
@jtveg 4 жыл бұрын
@@HBPowerwall Yes but it can't physically do that unless there are wires on each side of the shunt going to the BMS. Where are they, especially the wires on the left side of the shunt. I can only see the thick wires going from solar to inverter. There is no wire going to BMS.
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 4 жыл бұрын
they are connected I assure you :) useless if they weren't - support.batrium.com/article/207-video-shuntmon-installation-hardware-and-software
@jtveg
@jtveg 4 жыл бұрын
@@HBPowerwall Aha! In the video I couldn't see those green plugs that go into the side of the shunt. Thank heaps for the link. All good. 😉👌🏼
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 4 жыл бұрын
no worries !
@ChileExpatFamily
@ChileExpatFamily 4 жыл бұрын
I really love this video. I have AGM batteries and wish so much I could have the 18650s here in Chile but it is a hard thing to find. So it is too bad you do not sell them! Jim in Chile.
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 4 жыл бұрын
International shipping would be killer and kinda goes agains the whole recycling/environmental thing we are doing with them.
@jimginnyohio
@jimginnyohio 5 жыл бұрын
Nice job Pete. He will be much happier with the lithium!
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 5 жыл бұрын
For sure!
@srdjan272able
@srdjan272able 3 жыл бұрын
Any video how you make power banks?
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 3 жыл бұрын
100s lol
@mondotv4216
@mondotv4216 5 жыл бұрын
Nice vid Pete. Shame about the BMS but filming can be distracting. It would be nice if Batrium made the connectors polarised so each connector only fits in the correct socket. Make them “Pete” proof ;)
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 5 жыл бұрын
I've done this 100's of times - I stuffed up, simple....
@VideoStefan17
@VideoStefan17 5 жыл бұрын
the humble feeling you may had after the break. if i srew something up and curs, i let it all out and after that i am humble again and start over and laugh about myself.. "stupid me". :)
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 5 жыл бұрын
Took me two weeks to go back after that mistake i was so embarrassed and angry at my self. Poor guy needed to use the generator for two weeks cause i didn't want it running without bms
@VideoStefan17
@VideoStefan17 5 жыл бұрын
@@HBPowerwall i am feeling you - may bring him some beer? keep up the good work mate!
@CHloras
@CHloras 4 жыл бұрын
Hello HBPowerwall. This is first video, where i noticed that you are using metal plates instead of fuses on the cells. Why? How about fuses? Thank you.
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 4 жыл бұрын
Faster as trying to build the battery much faster, working well almost 12 months later
@richardriehle4159
@richardriehle4159 5 жыл бұрын
sweet setup . fried batrium loss come out of your pocket?
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 5 жыл бұрын
It did, It hurt ... three times - blowing it up, telling the wife - then paying for new one :(
@richardriehle4159
@richardriehle4159 5 жыл бұрын
@@HBPowerwall oh sh!t !!
@TheGrimshaw
@TheGrimshaw 4 жыл бұрын
Question, how come i didn't see any BMS in that system? Am a little new to this.
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 4 жыл бұрын
Umm there is a www.batrium.com bms... i even blew one up in the process of installing it
@TheGrimshaw
@TheGrimshaw 4 жыл бұрын
@@HBPowerwall ok Thanks.
@reyes2009
@reyes2009 3 жыл бұрын
the pip doesn't solar charge?
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall Жыл бұрын
It does yes, but adds too much heat to the inverter so don't use it by choice
@DeanZ
@DeanZ 4 жыл бұрын
Why you use PCM60X and 24v MPPSolar (this one also has a built-in charger??) ?
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 4 жыл бұрын
It does, but was very low input from memory, PCM60X is an outstanding unit and that PIP2424HS over heated with just a 2000w load for 10 min, ad an SCC to the mix and it renders the inverter useless. NOW that i never used the internal charger that inverter is still running today.. Must be something to my thinking
@DeanZ
@DeanZ 4 жыл бұрын
@@HBPowerwall is this model better for all in one? www.ebay.com/itm/GK-3000w-24v-Solar-inverter-230v-80A-mppt-solar-charger-PV-input-500vdc/163718879615?epid=20032787170&hash=item261e67d97f:g:bckAAOSwNWdc9dUd
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 4 жыл бұрын
Yes that one rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fitm%2FGK-3000w-24v-Solar-inverter-230v-80A-mppt-solar-charger-PV-input-500vdc%2F163718879615%3Fepid%3D20032787170%26hash%3Ditem261e67d97f%3Ag%3AbckAAOSwNWdc9dUd&campid=5338572907&toolid=20008 works much better and it's what this has been upgraded too now
@DeanZ
@DeanZ 4 жыл бұрын
@@HBPowerwall For start I would only have 3 solar panels (store.bisol.com/premium-mono-305-wp-187.html) Open voltage for one panel is 41v (41V x 3 panels serial = 123V only ???). MPPT range is 120-450V. Is this enough just for very sunny days or even shady ones
@youchap
@youchap 4 жыл бұрын
Did you have to change the floating voltage on the inverter for this?
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 4 жыл бұрын
I'm not using the inverter charger (yet - but you set the bulk & float to the top charge voltage - Currently it's 28v and working well still. Heading out this weekend to finish an upgrade and pull those batteries to test them after 12 month of service
@Hoopstarguy
@Hoopstarguy 4 жыл бұрын
Are you looking for Panasonic’s 18650’s ?
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 4 жыл бұрын
Always looking for cells
@ILoveOpenSourceSoftware
@ILoveOpenSourceSoftware 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Pete. Thanks. I really appreciate your videos. I have a question or a request even. Could you elaborate, why you use a charge controller, when your inverter can charge your batteries as well (maybe you can go over that in a video???)? I have my first 7 packs ready and want to go ahead with ordering an inverter but I want to understand why you use a charge controller instead of the inverter to charge your packs. Thanks!!!
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 5 жыл бұрын
I use the MPP Solar PCM60X charger controllers cause they work! That's not an affiliated linked or sponsored comment it's the fact they really do work and stood the test of time. Its Heat... in summer it gets a touch hot over her in Aussie land so keeping head separate to the inverters is a great idea when an air-con gets left on for days and days at a time along with the normal house loads and cooking. THAT said it would be more efficient to use the internal charge controler as it's much more efficient as the PIP inverters will use solar power first so there is less energy 'inverted' so to speak. NOW this setup it's because of the limmited size of the PWM charger controller in the PIP2424HS & those fans are a touch too small for that unit.
@ILoveOpenSourceSoftware
@ILoveOpenSourceSoftware 5 жыл бұрын
@@HBPowerwall thanks for your response. So if I understand you correctly it is not necessary just recommended because of environmental conditions in Australia. I will try without and should I experience issues with heat I can integrate a separate charger. Thanks again for your feedback. Greetings from Canada.
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 5 жыл бұрын
It's an all round versatile unit that I trust so much of the rubbish others push (and my self in the past) isn't tested properly and just there for aff clicks don't care what happens in six weeks time.. It's time to change that train of though and do better where possible
@Dutch_off_grid_homesteading
@Dutch_off_grid_homesteading 3 жыл бұрын
heya that is a very good upgrade to bad you blow the batrium
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall Жыл бұрын
Update - new batrium still running
@bhajansradioguyana7381
@bhajansradioguyana7381 5 жыл бұрын
what is the name of the tip you crimp on the fine wires
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 5 жыл бұрын
The are Bootlaces or ferrules ebay.to/2GJRtNI
@B-SPEQ-BE
@B-SPEQ-BE 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing install mate. Thumbs up from the uk.
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Pete
@alfguimaraes
@alfguimaraes 4 жыл бұрын
Nice work man! It sucks right at the end you blow it up!
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 4 жыл бұрын
Sure did lol But it has changed my mates life with how well it works
@alfguimaraes
@alfguimaraes 4 жыл бұрын
@@HBPowerwall Cool man! aways nice when it works out at the end!
@painanasuddho6396
@painanasuddho6396 4 жыл бұрын
Do you think you can provide your wiring diagram in pdf file?
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 4 жыл бұрын
that would be too much effort - but if i get the urge i'll take a look at doing it.
@offgridd
@offgridd 4 жыл бұрын
Well done! (not the toasting part though) Did your own bms survive.
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 4 жыл бұрын
Blew the ass out of the bms unfortuntally...
@skoto.power.systems
@skoto.power.systems 5 жыл бұрын
So sorry about the BMS
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 5 жыл бұрын
Don’t me sorry lol all my fault. As long as I don’t do it twice I’m good.
@pleaseanthony2344
@pleaseanthony2344 4 жыл бұрын
Where do you get your batteries
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 4 жыл бұрын
bit.ly/2NlJqdL (Coupon code: "Powerwalls" will save you an extra 10%
@frankz1125
@frankz1125 5 жыл бұрын
Looking good. I cant wait until Im up and running. Thanks for sharing
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 5 жыл бұрын
How far off are you?
@frankz1125
@frankz1125 5 жыл бұрын
@@HBPowerwall 1/3 almost. Check my vid. I posted it yesterday😁
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 5 жыл бұрын
Checked out/ subed/ & commented :)
@frankz1125
@frankz1125 5 жыл бұрын
@@HBPowerwall Thanks brother.
@markajoseph1980
@markajoseph1980 5 жыл бұрын
Can I ask why did you used 2 single mcb's and not a double pole mcb
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 5 жыл бұрын
Because that's all I had, upgrades will come with time.
@spokehedz
@spokehedz 5 жыл бұрын
Raise a glass for that guy's morning toast.
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 5 жыл бұрын
Filled with milk naturally
@dtec30
@dtec30 5 жыл бұрын
rip the bms but kudos for giving your mate a hand Pete
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 5 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to get back out there to do an update video, this video was stared months ago lol
@dtec30
@dtec30 5 жыл бұрын
@@HBPowerwall oh am i that far behind ?
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 5 жыл бұрын
Not behind i am in making videos cause i need to pay the mortgage lolz
@entingbotyok4385
@entingbotyok4385 5 жыл бұрын
where did you get your 18650?
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 5 жыл бұрын
From here is a good place to start but depends where you are located - www.batteryhookup.com/?rfsn=1822285.c32dc5 use code 'diypowerwalls' :) if your not in USA let me know and i'll share links from anyone i know in your area
@LithiumSolar
@LithiumSolar 5 жыл бұрын
Great video! Really sucks about the Batrium though :(
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 5 жыл бұрын
I agree but never minds - what is done is done..
@rohanwilschefski2549
@rohanwilschefski2549 5 жыл бұрын
Great video mate.
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bud
@TRYtoHELPyou
@TRYtoHELPyou 5 жыл бұрын
Outstanding!!
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 5 жыл бұрын
Thank-You Sir!
@default1647
@default1647 5 жыл бұрын
Very nice setup for off grid :)
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 5 жыл бұрын
Works very well so far but only in service 3 months (it took a while to edit lol)
@jestronixhanderson9898
@jestronixhanderson9898 5 жыл бұрын
Remote monitoring coming ? I'm a freak for safety and would pop those packs into a metal case , eg she's goes up it just roasts the box, but looks like a tin shed anyway :)
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 5 жыл бұрын
All metal shed, 1cm metal floor, mini orb metal walls - inside a shed only lined with wood where the powerwall is & 5l of generator fuel is stored lol (for now) remote monitoring is hard as every thing is steel and messes with wifi & internet is so intermittent it's useless - wind changes direction and it drops out
@bostjantrancar9605
@bostjantrancar9605 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome job.....👍😎🖖
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 5 жыл бұрын
Thank-You Sir
@shemmo
@shemmo 4 жыл бұрын
why some cables use ducting and some not? 🤔
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 4 жыл бұрын
A few weeks later another bunch of batteries were added but wasn't filmed
@abdulhamidismael7801
@abdulhamidismael7801 Жыл бұрын
Could you please share the drawing?
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall Жыл бұрын
nar too hard & take too long...
@AveRage_Joe
@AveRage_Joe 5 жыл бұрын
Damn Good Video Man!!! BOOOOOOOM💥💥💥💥🤘
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 5 жыл бұрын
THANKS JOE!
@BrunoPOWEEER
@BrunoPOWEEER 5 жыл бұрын
AveRage Joe soooo much POWEEEEEEEERRR ohhh yeaahh
@batterydiy7297
@batterydiy7297 5 жыл бұрын
Good Job mate !!! 👏👏👏
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 5 жыл бұрын
Thank-You Bud
@JohnSluderPhoto
@JohnSluderPhoto 5 жыл бұрын
Nice work, impressive
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks John
@climatechangepreppersfaceb2148
@climatechangepreppersfaceb2148 5 жыл бұрын
No pv fuse emergency disconnect?
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 5 жыл бұрын
No fuses yet but the disconnect is the ZBenny above the PCM60X
@climatechangepreppersfaceb2148
@climatechangepreppersfaceb2148 5 жыл бұрын
@@HBPowerwall legally required is a fuse pull handle
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 5 жыл бұрын
For solar panels in Australia?
@gogomacik
@gogomacik 3 жыл бұрын
Eek... Batrium on powered from batery side of shunt?
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 3 жыл бұрын
Yep... want the last thing to turn off to be the thing that could tell me every bit of information about a failure as possible batrium works from 5v to 60v so even weeks after battery has failed i can still get logs
@gogomacik
@gogomacik 3 жыл бұрын
@@HBPowerwall i talk About shunt not fuse :)
@pleasecho2
@pleasecho2 4 жыл бұрын
Total cost?
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 4 жыл бұрын
about 2500 i think from memory
@pleasecho2
@pleasecho2 4 жыл бұрын
@@HBPowerwall Head scratching ....the ROI is gonna be hard to figure when you factor in that neither solar panels or lithium-ion cells have unlimited life spans
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 4 жыл бұрын
$40,000 to bring power from 10km away... That price include panels, cable and batteries
@pleasecho2
@pleasecho2 4 жыл бұрын
@@HBPowerwall Yikes! Guess I'll keep this project at the hobbyist level
@mmtruckingllc657
@mmtruckingllc657 4 жыл бұрын
Very informative and helpful,, great video! By the way, it means that you are still human..... Big deal, ppl make mistakes lol,,, God bless you and your family!
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 4 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that!
@johnjamce1146
@johnjamce1146 5 жыл бұрын
great to see you help a friend. why a you afraid of the ac power lol
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 4 жыл бұрын
Its not legal to diy 220v in Australia
4 жыл бұрын
👌👍
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 4 жыл бұрын
👍👍
@micr0chap
@micr0chap 2 жыл бұрын
Gravity is, potentially, the inventor's enemy. Suggestion: don't mount your battery packs vertically - lay them flat horizontally - despite conventional wisdom?
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 2 жыл бұрын
mounted them this way for 6 plus years - works flawlessly - saves space, looks good, easy to test, replace or repair battery.
@evgenygeorgiev138
@evgenygeorgiev138 4 жыл бұрын
Why the 125 MERLIN GERIN fuse is AC not DC it must be DC.
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 4 жыл бұрын
they have dc rating?
@evgenygeorgiev138
@evgenygeorgiev138 4 жыл бұрын
I see only 215V- 400V AC on video
@thezzxc9904
@thezzxc9904 5 жыл бұрын
nice job!
@dtec30
@dtec30 5 жыл бұрын
oh and hbpowerwall road trip woohoo
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 5 жыл бұрын
IT's a great drive way lol
@dtec30
@dtec30 5 жыл бұрын
@@HBPowerwall i would like to think if i was lucky enough we would be good neighbours, pals, friends, cobba's
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 5 жыл бұрын
The friends i've made on youtube far exceed my 'real life' friends - I need a massive property & devide it into 1acre blocks for everyone to come out and make stuffs
@LinkMasterYT
@LinkMasterYT 4 жыл бұрын
8:20 What do you do with all the copper leavings??? Recycling or ... much much better leave it to Nature and dump it all out!!!
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 4 жыл бұрын
I recycle everything i can
@LinkMasterYT
@LinkMasterYT 4 жыл бұрын
@@HBPowerwall Never Mind Bro... i like what you do with all your energy storage ... little fancy but its ok ... people still dont get it - that everything is solar powered - even all the gasoline engines - it is the sunpower from millions of years ago - why not use the sun directly in everthing - tesla is goning the right way and im excited about the new cell type that they have presented on the Tesla Battery day 2020 ... nice nice nice!!! In fact everything comes from the sun even all the gold - you know in australia very well what is the gold business all about and were it came from ... it comes from a sun-supanova ... our first sun collapsing and with that much force it forced atoms to 79 ... that is why you can produce syntetic diamonds but you cant produce syntetic Gold Baby ... nobody has that much power - only Nature has ... better is
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 4 жыл бұрын
Well said
@chaplieval
@chaplieval 4 жыл бұрын
Почти бесплатная энергия!
@dylanc9275
@dylanc9275 5 жыл бұрын
So cool
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 5 жыл бұрын
Was enjoyable & thanks for tunning in .
@climatechangepreppersfaceb2148
@climatechangepreppersfaceb2148 5 жыл бұрын
Cost of FUBAR?
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 5 жыл бұрын
New WM4 Solo :)
@climatechangepreppersfaceb2148
@climatechangepreppersfaceb2148 5 жыл бұрын
$$$$$?
@climatechangepreppersfaceb2148
@climatechangepreppersfaceb2148 5 жыл бұрын
Didn't you say the longmons were smoking?
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 5 жыл бұрын
Yah and longmons lol But i had some spares laying around We had on order a WM4 Solo with Shunt - www.batrium.com/collections/starter-kit/products/starter-kit-watchmon-7s-longmon-shuntmon2-500a
@JoneKone
@JoneKone 5 жыл бұрын
:( Sorry for the BMS.. Always triple check all wires :) That is My motto..
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 5 жыл бұрын
Live and learn, just don't do it twice.
@ทวีศักดิ์ผิวอ่อน
@ทวีศักดิ์ผิวอ่อน 5 жыл бұрын
Very​ Good​
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 5 жыл бұрын
Thank-You
@chandankumarrout4423
@chandankumarrout4423 4 жыл бұрын
I think you are awesome dude am I sure 🤔🤔
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 4 жыл бұрын
Thank-You
@chandankumarrout4423
@chandankumarrout4423 4 жыл бұрын
@@HBPowerwall where are you brother
@JonOffgrid
@JonOffgrid 4 жыл бұрын
cool
@zaprodk
@zaprodk 3 жыл бұрын
"a my BMS" - Typo in the title :)
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 3 жыл бұрын
how the heck did I miss that lol Thanks!
@anwin85alon
@anwin85alon 5 жыл бұрын
我都知道很久了…!+ - + - + - + - =240v ~110v
@tuttocrafting
@tuttocrafting 5 жыл бұрын
6:43 That is bad design different connectors should have different key plugs, like automotive designs.
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 5 жыл бұрын
Possibly - but they are well labeled and I did do it wrong... I"m happy to accept my own mistakes..
@tuttocrafting
@tuttocrafting 5 жыл бұрын
@@HBPowerwall Yea, but a good design should have different keys connection for: input, output, power. Or at least strong color coded connectors. Specially if there are lots of screw terminals. Here generally alarms have boards alike those of your BMS. But power is on one side, alone. Inputs are on another side and outputs on another one. In this way is more difficult to connect things wrong. I have another question about your BMS, if a cell is charged and switch on the bypass mode. Does the BMS alert the charger to reduce the current to the max bypass current?
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 5 жыл бұрын
It does if the inverter has CANBUS support and the protocols are public. support.batrium.com/article/108-how-to-control-a-sma-sunny-island-inverter-charger-with-a-watchmon
@jimthvac100
@jimthvac100 4 жыл бұрын
He built this for himself not for the public to use. Since he built it he knows how it works and does not need all of the proper labels. He only had to satisfy himself not you. He still did a wonderful job regardless.
@JFLegaspi
@JFLegaspi 4 жыл бұрын
TuttoCrafting you’re just playing smart 😊🙂 where’s your build? And we’ll see if it’s all perfectly installed.
@dtec30
@dtec30 5 жыл бұрын
when you rush you are bound to get hurt
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 5 жыл бұрын
For sure - property is about an hour away from home and my time is always limited out there. New plan is plan not to be on a time crunch!
@dtec30
@dtec30 5 жыл бұрын
@@HBPowerwall yep there is no such thing as a 5 minute job lol took me a long time to realise that and if the job happens to be short take time to enjoy the moment or company as life is short and quality is rare
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 5 жыл бұрын
It's the drive that kills me.. it's a hour each way but if you hit traffic it's an easy 2hours that's a real problem when wife has to be some where.. (in this case)
@saidkhan-cn6ey
@saidkhan-cn6ey 5 жыл бұрын
Good
@elcreador6675
@elcreador6675 5 жыл бұрын
Excelente 🇩🇴🇩🇴🇩🇴🇩🇴🌎
@guiterman6263
@guiterman6263 4 жыл бұрын
What's up dude
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 4 жыл бұрын
Nuttun much Dude....
@agentstaple1
@agentstaple1 3 жыл бұрын
As a great man once said, shit happens (:
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 3 жыл бұрын
It does!
@vovuong8276
@vovuong8276 4 жыл бұрын
so beautiful.!!!
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 4 жыл бұрын
I agree
@chandankumarrout4423
@chandankumarrout4423 4 жыл бұрын
Stay happy and stay safe corona virus 🤧😷😷😷
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 4 жыл бұрын
Should be ok, thanks for the concern
@off-gridmountaineer4515
@off-gridmountaineer4515 4 жыл бұрын
need help finding labtop battery everyone i have been getting om ebay have been fake one or low capacity like around 900-1200 and cant afford new one please help me fine real one and they to be afford use labtop thanks you for teaching us idiots how to build a powerwall using 18650 and not burning my house down.
@sssr1987sssr
@sssr1987sssr 4 жыл бұрын
Проще взять литий-железо-фосфатные батареи.
@marcio-copymaxgpi
@marcio-copymaxgpi 5 жыл бұрын
👍👏👏👏
@BastelPichi
@BastelPichi 4 жыл бұрын
I destroyed already two bms´ but that where 2$ bms´ not a batrium
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 4 жыл бұрын
But I destroyed a Batrium BMS it didn't distory it's self - lol Those $2 BMS will distroy them self just because it's a Monday...
@MrProvinspoul
@MrProvinspoul 10 ай бұрын
Good video you made, if only people would stop using the damned "music" , I'd rather listen to a cosnstant 1khz tone than the crappy music, why does there always have to be the noise of youtube "music" it's almost impossible to concentrate with that noise.
@ladjkaoz
@ladjkaoz 3 жыл бұрын
wow
@HBPowerwall
@HBPowerwall 3 жыл бұрын
is that a good or a bad wow?
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