HBX vs WL TOYS - Which is right for you?

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HBX 16889a BRUSHLESS (same car as in this video):
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HBX 16889a BRUSHLESS with different body:
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HBX 16889 BRUSHED car:
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WL Toys 144001:
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0:00 preliminary information
3:44 field test comparisons
9:35 More decision-making information
HBX and WL Toys are certainly at the top of the list when it comes to budget hobby grade RCs! Are they durable? Can they jump? How’s the handling? This video will help you decide which brand is right for you. Specifically, we show the HBX 16889a and the WL Toys 144001, but much of this information can be used to compare several models from both brands.
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[@RinkaiKouen]

You are the neighbor we all need.

[@DerbyCityRC]

Haha! Thanks! 🤘😎👍

[@mnakash77]

Great bashing, brutal landings on concrete with the 144001. Loved your video. I was inspired by your 9205e videos I put the 16890 wheels and body shell on the wltoys 144001 with a 3100kv 3650 motor and it flies and flips like a mad cheetah on 3s lipo.

[@DerbyCityRC]

I bet if flies lol. I’ll be doing something similar with it soon but starting with the stock motor (unless it burns up by then). Glad my videos inspired you! 😀

[@dennisnothstein1311]

Awesome video and great job on the front flip Max. I've been running rcs for years and can't do one so super awesome job with that. I have both of those rc and I have to agree with you on the durability. Every time I take the 144001 out something bends or breaks. Right now the only straight thing on it is the chassis lol. I need to order some parts so I can have fun with it again. Great video,keep up the awesome job and thanks for the great entertainment

[@DerbyCityRC]

Lol sounds like my entire fleet 🤣🤣. Every one of my cars are broken lol. Waiting on lots of parts! Thanks so much!!

[@BoostisKing]

Nice job Max , love the videos guys!

[@DerbyCityRC]

Thanks, Mike! Max is pretty proud of himself!

[@johnporter1613]

The slides at the park are fun me and my boys take ours to our local park all the time great comparison video bro

[@DerbyCityRC]

I was surprised how fun that actually was. Wish we had a tunnel slide there to get loops on! Thanks a bunch!!

[@bradsrcsmore3848]

Very good video!! I have many of both of these brands. Like you said they are meant for different uses. 144001 handles amazing and is fast stock and on brushless it's NUTS fast!!. HBX are pure bashers that are super durable and fun as H*LL! Well, both are super fun 😁 Love it! Edit to add: AWESOME front flips Max!!! Keep up the fun bashing!! 😀

[@DerbyCityRC]

Thanks! They ARE both super fun! I’m sure we will end up with a BL motor in the 144 soon! Max appreciates that! He sure is proud of his front flips!! 😎😃😃👍

[@bubblesrcshed]

I agree on HBX durability I love my SG 1601 Pro smaller RC or not it never breaks and I’ve slammed it into solid concrete before, that’s really were these smaller scale RC’s shine. Great job Max on your front flip it was a good one👍keep it up buddy👊

[@DerbyCityRC]

Ageeed! Excited for my pro to show up! We crashed our 16890 and this 16889 a ton! Both need minor things. Thanks my friend! We really appreciate that! 😎😀👍👍

[@papajonk5665]

Very good man, reply all the comment... U got my respect bro...💪

[@DerbyCityRC]

Thanks man!! I appreciate that 👊👍

[@OliFPV]

Great 🤙😍🍀 thxxxxx mutch bruh

[@DerbyCityRC]

Glad you liked it!! 🤘🤘

[@islandrc-duke1972]

cool rc's and great bashing

[@DerbyCityRC]

Thanks my friend!! 😎😃

[@jessesanders1040]

Good job little man!! 👍

[@DerbyCityRC]

🔥🔥🤘 He says thanks! 😃

[@BangForYourBuckRc]

Awesome comparo brother! You nailed all the important differences and mini Max nailed the the perfect air controlled jump! That was great. Give him a 👊🏼💯 from me! I’m planning on doing a similar comparo soon between the budget bangers, just waiting for one of them to arrive. This was well done bud! 👊🏼to you too brother!

[@DerbyCityRC]

Thanks man!! He was very happy with his front flips and he finally understands how to make it stabilize after flipping in the air! Im actually about to watch your Raarlo(or whatever it is lol!) review! Thanks for your consistent support!! 😎😃

[@BangForYourBuckRc]

@@DerbyCityRC you bet brother! Your channel is super fun, super informative and wicked entertaining! Your channel rocks👍🏻💯🤘🏻brother!

[@DerbyCityRC]

Thanks so much! Max certainly deserves some of that credit 🤣🤗

[@BangForYourBuckRc]

@@DerbyCityRC yes 💯% agreed!😊👊🏼

[@Rc_Alex_76]

And go on max your nailing the front flips👏👏😀

[@DerbyCityRC]

He was super happy! Thanks so much!!

[@jngrccars89]

Good video

[@DerbyCityRC]

Thanks!

[@matthutch5919]

❤️ this video. ❤️ how much you flog em. CONGRATULATIONS Max practice makes for 💯 success. Well done little guy

[@DerbyCityRC]

Thanks! Yes he did well!!

[@rasheemgreedyman8255]

Maxwell that's some good air control 💯💯😎😎😁😁👍👍🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥💥💥💥💥💥💥

[@DerbyCityRC]

Yup he’s a beast!!! 😃😃🤣😃

[@sethnicholls7861]

Carnage bash session madness haha!!!

[@DerbyCityRC]

Haha! You bet! That’s how we do it!!

[@BigZombieMonkey]

Love your videos, I just got a Hbx16889 Pro a and its my first RC. I'm curious how you can tell what body's would fit it or how to find larger tyres etc do you have any guides on getting started with customising cars?

[@DerbyCityRC]

Thanks!! Well you typically can use any body of the same scale, you just typically have to drill your own holes for the posts. I have many videos on customizing specific cars, including the hbx you got, mainly tire upgrades because it’s already a beast! You may learn a lot from checking out my other videos on that car, but much of what I learned is from research and trial and error. Pretty much everything I learn ends up on a video. 👍

[@Rc_Alex_76]

Now I've got boogers n slobber on my face for laughing great video guys thanks Alex in Scotland

[@DerbyCityRC]

Haha!! Gotta keep a tissue nearby after some of the things Max does! Thanks so much for watching, Alex!

[@Rc_Alex_76]

No problem we love your channel over here in Scotland and you guys are more entertaining than some of the more big channels and informative for knobs like me thanks guys

[@DerbyCityRC]

That means so much! Happy to be entertaining and glad to help!!

[@joshhindle8946]

I have two 16890 brushed 390s . After seeing videos of them doing wheelies. Running 3s and hitting 68km .. I bought two 2445 brushless engines stock 35 amp receiver and surpass one . Metal everything for 1 .. then the other I'm gna run all the plastic stuff see which goes faster last longer etc . Me and my stepson are gna Rip .. the 2445 are 5400kv. Loll I wonder if the upgraded drivetrain and pinion will work on a stock diff I have 2 kits comming to see !! Good videos 👍

[@DerbyCityRC]

Very cool! Yes they should work with the stock diffs! Eventually I’m sure they will strip down the plastic gears but should still last a while. Those 5400s should MOOOVE!!! Lol Thanks!

[@anthonyschutz7201]

What tires did you put on that orange car? I have a 16889 and want to add a brushless motor and bigger wheels.

[@johnellefa]

I couldnt decide so I bought the most popular of each lol. The hbx is the only to survive ofc

[@DerbyCityRC]

Pretty much how it goes 🤣🤣

[@thumperbangin2000]

👍🏻👍🏻👌🏻👌🏻

[@koullis9]

Awesome videos bro.... 👍👍👍👍👍👍 Can you please make a quick comparison between HBX 16890 Vs HBX 16889A PRO??? Both brushless vesrions. Specs, Cons & Ads... Appreciated!!! Keep it up!!!!

[@DerbyCityRC]

Thanks man! Are you trying to decide between these two? The 16889a pro wins hands down due to the metal drivetrain and slightly larger motor, I plan on doing a video like this, but I have a few videos already started that need to come out first. Thanks so much!

[@koullis9]

@@DerbyCityRC Thanks man for the quick reply! Appreciated👍!!! Your opinion counts👌🏻!!!

[@DerbyCityRC]

You’re welcome! Thanks bro!!

[@RayRiv73]

@@DerbyCityRC the HBX Pro has a steel Spur also?

[@DerbyCityRC]

Yes it does👍

[@philiprccars4340]

To me the WL Toys is a Speed Machine to set up speed records and do speed challenges, strapping a GPS to it and slamming the thottle and posting your Personal Bests.

[@DerbyCityRC]

Ya but look how good it flies!!! I agree they are made mainly for speed but let her breathe a little!! 🤣

[@philiprccars4340]

@@DerbyCityRC Agreed, but I would like to see you build up one for speed runs and challenges too! As you said, it is not really built for bashing.

[@a.d.d._maker]

I have only pulled off one ugly back flip so far.. You're better than I am! Nice job on that front flip Max!! Great video Dad!!

[@DerbyCityRC]

It took me a while! You’ll get the hang of it! Thanks so much!!

[@a.d.d._maker]

@@DerbyCityRC Just to clarify Max is better at bashing than I am. My Bigrock keeps finding rocks in my field. I am going to build some portable wooden ramps like yours (thanks for that video)but I am also making some permanent dirt ramps. It is still wet and muddy here. Ground is just starting to thaw. I think when it drys out I will rent a skid steer and go nuts.

[@DerbyCityRC]

He seems to be pretty good for his age! But I just mean you will get better with practice. I remember even just being amazed that it was possible to make a car do flips lol took me a long time to get it done, especially front flips. I practiced back flips on a small piece of wood set up at an angle against a wall.

[@a.d.d._maker]

@@DerbyCityRC I think that is what made me want to get into bashing. The air control. Growing up, nothing I had was ever powerful enough to control in the air. I saw some guys racing one day. Nosing the car down,and just sticking the landings. I needed to do that! I am getting better. I was at the skate park yesterday. I didn't even get the camera out. Just practice. The Bigrock is tough!!

[@DerbyCityRC]

Ya I had nothing but toy grades as a kid. The real cheap $20 toy cars lol. We got our Holyton as our first hobby grade about a year ago and kept going 👍👍

[@BulldogsRC]

Do you build your own ramps? Do a video on that or how u get them

[@DerbyCityRC]

I did build them and made a video probably about a year and a half ago. Here it is! kzbin.info/www/bejne/iZ_cooykiMhratE

[@BulldogsRC]

@@DerbyCityRC yeah I just seen it after I commented, thanks!

[@DerbyCityRC]

You bet!!

[@davidcoffman2674]

I like the buggy better..

[@DogNineONine]

Liked. Purely and absolutely for that gnarly front flip little dude! 💪💪💪 (and maybe for the boogers and slobber too 😂)

[@DerbyCityRC]

🤣🤣 Thanks!! Ya he’s a front flippin, booger makin maniac!!

[@DogNineONine]

@@DerbyCityRC life goals right there! 😁👍👍

[@DerbyCityRC]

I could only hope to be one of those one day 😅

[@DogNineONine]

@@DerbyCityRC agreed! I still don't know what I'm gonna be when I grow up...I'm only 48 😂

[@DerbyCityRC]

I hear ya! It’s a big decision 😆

[@timchristiansen1287]

Damn, that 144001 can jumb

[@DerbyCityRC]

Yup I was surprised!

[@alexdennis4660]

Where do you buy the oversized tires?

[@DerbyCityRC]

These are the tires i show on the 16890 in this video. They work great on the 1/16 HBXs! www.banggood.com/custlink/Dvmdskstbq

[@yochillll2672]

Hi how are you. I was wondering if you could do avideo on the wl toys v2 new buggy or if you already have one l. Thank you

[@DerbyCityRC]

Unfortunately I don’t have one of those yet. Hoping to get one soon, though!

[@yochillll2672]

@@DerbyCityRC oh heck yea can’t wait. You should try it on 3s and also the hbx pro on 3s

[@DerbyCityRC]

I agree! And the hbx pro will definitely be on 3s soon!

[@yochillll2672]

@@DerbyCityRC hell yeah i really appreciate that. Looking forward I love your content man you really show the potential and durability of these things. Your like whistlin diesel but for rc lol

[@DerbyCityRC]

Haha, thanks man!!

[@doubledome2076]

Once again, Mad Max showing us that he is indeed THE MAN‼️👍👍🦾🦾🦾🦾😎😎

[@DerbyCityRC]

Yup he be killin’ it!!

[@RayRiv73]

Can you find parts easily on Amazon like the body posts on that HBX? Hate the idea of waiting weeks for a part from China.

[@DerbyCityRC]

They definitely have some parts, but sometimes under different brand names (even though they’re the exact same part). Seriously though things break so rarely on that truck that it’s worth the wait when something does finally break. I would just order it along with a few spares. We broke a wheelie bar once. I think we’ve bent a rear axle once or twice. Don’t think I’ve ever broken body posts. If it’s not in one of my videos on any of the 16th scale hbxs, then it hasn’t broken on us.

[@tomislav4694]

Where did you buy these straps for the Clips?

[@DerbyCityRC]

These guys right here: amzn.to/37AqFjf

[@tomislav4694]

@@DerbyCityRC Thanks👍

[@DerbyCityRC]

You bet!

[@omarrc4574]

The wltoys 144002

[@DerbyCityRC]

Looks like a good option!

[@omarrc4574]

@@DerbyCityRC yea bro comparison with the hbx

[@mikesmith8338]

I say why choose? I street bash my 144001, dirt bash and jump my hbx 901a and I got them both for what I paid for the mini-z I drift around my garage.

[@DerbyCityRC]

Very true! Just depends on what everyone wants. I certainly like having both! 👍

[@hyoussef]

There is one more difference, one of them has only 3 wheels

[@DerbyCityRC]

🤣🤣 that certainly takes away from its handling!

[@tommychua9101]

Both HBX & Wltoys are great & inexpensive 👍👍👍

[@DerbyCityRC]

Completely agree! 🤘🤘👍👍

[@mitchelldexter1901]

I bought a hbx 16889 a while ago the dogbones always pop out. The wheels wobble so it cant go in a straight line. and the front link also pop out a ton. Oh yeah and one of the gears stripped so I wanted to replace them to metal and you basically have to by ever gear if you want to do that. DItched it and bought a traxxas slash.

[@DerbyCityRC]

I don’t have a slash, but I hear good things. The HBX 16889a PRO is the better option really, cuz it comes with metal gears and axles. Also an improved suspension arm system over the older version that help with the rear dog bones popping out from the upper arm popping off it’s socket. Hope you love the Slash!!

[@mitchelldexter1901]

@@DerbyCityRC Thank you for replying! Guess I shouldn't of cheaped out with the regular 16889. The slash has been great though.

[@DerbyCityRC]

No problem! Ya I’m sure you did alright!!

[@philiprccars4340]

Your poor workshop needs a serious clean-up and many cars also repairs, so sad to see a RC junkyard setup. 😭😭😭😭😭

[@DerbyCityRC]

We’ve been in the middle of trying to get our house sold for a few months and that room is one of the only places for storage, so things are a bit messy right now. With any luck, we will have a new setup by the end of the year or early next year!

[@philiprccars4340]

@@DerbyCityRC No problem, selling a house and moving is such a royal PITA! 😂

[@DerbyCityRC]

You have no idea the headache it’s been 🤣🤣

[@philiprccars4340]

@@DerbyCityRC I don't think if I move again, I will move anything, just sell it all before I move, but yeah, easier said than done ...

[@DerbyCityRC]

Absolutely!

[@carterminich5610]

I cannot believe you didn't trash the rear wing they are absolutely garbage

[@DerbyCityRC]

The WL toys? The whole car is garbage lol. I was a fan of this one for a short time. The hbx is still a beast!