How to check the wear on your Harley V-twin Cam Chain Tensioner Shoes. Very important as they can potentially start failing and cause major engine damage on some earlier bikes! Research yours to see if it might have this problem.
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@murrelldooms79822 жыл бұрын
I have owned Harley Davidson's twin cam 88 for a number of years. Checking the tensioner on a regular basis is a good thing. Some of these motors will stay together longer than others, just a role of the dice. Bad design. HARLEY DAVIDSON COULD OF DID BETTER. Now the owner's of these motorcycle are on their own. Thanks Harley Davidson.
@NINEPOINTFIVEPROJECTS Жыл бұрын
Hi Murrell, Thanks for the comments and for watching. I really appreciate the feedback.
@Johnclark300 Жыл бұрын
I would have the crank pin welded to the flywheels and I would switch to gear driven cams
@weber247 Жыл бұрын
96 owner, I recently installed a after market tensioner, and huge difference in ride, I bought a Hayden tensioner and a Dasbecan from Amazon. Installed the Dasbecan first. It works well. No clunk when shifting and less racket , noise.
@haroldyazzie3538 Жыл бұрын
No sh**, best to have them converted.
@woodsontr Жыл бұрын
I’ve converted my 2000 Heritage Springer into gear drive cams to eliminate those shoes. I’ve put over 40 thousand miles on this setup with no problems at all. I converted my 2004 Electra Glide over to a Screaming Eagle hydraulic tensioner system and have about 10 thousand miles on this with no problem with this conversion. The Screaming Eagle kit has a real good oil pump that is part of conversion. I wish I had used an oil pump like this on my Springer but it’s been fine with the stock one and stock cam plate. Roll Tide!! 😉👍
@NINEPOINTFIVEPROJECTS Жыл бұрын
Hi Thomas, yeah I looked really hard at those kits but I just couldn't swing the cost at the time. Thanks for the info and for watching. I do appreciate it.
@NINEPOINTFIVEPROJECTS Жыл бұрын
Oh, I forgot in my other comment...War Eagle for me!!
@thomasfiedler5176 Жыл бұрын
Hey nine point five. Your 2006 twin cam 88 has those issues with the tensioner cuz it still has the spring tensioner setup on it. You need to upgrade to the hydraulic tensioners like they used in the 2006 dyna models an all models 2007 to present models. That will take care of the chewing the shoes up. They do that cuz they have constant super tight pressure on the tensioner an the hydraulic ones let tension up on them at certain points in the rpms like when decelerating an such. My 2006 wide glide is going strong at 26k miles. Best to do ya research the 88s were good motors especially the last yr they made em
@NINEPOINTFIVEPROJECTS Жыл бұрын
Hi Thomas, Yeah I know those tensioners are not the best, but I couldn't afford the upgrade at the time. Thanks for the feedback and for watching. I do appreciate it. If you're not already, please subscribe. I'm new to KZbin and each subscription helps a lot. Thanks Again!
@9921moo Жыл бұрын
i very much enjoyed your video...why ??....volume was good....camera showed most and picture was spot on...and most of all you explained it and you took your time and your`re like me and everybody else we are do it yourselfers in our home garage using our tools....thankyou...i enjoyed your nice`n easy flow/pace....don`t change.....
@NINEPOINTFIVEPROJECTS Жыл бұрын
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@haroldyazzie3538 Жыл бұрын
I bought my 06 Fatboy at 44k miles and it needed a cam conversion ASAP! The inner shoe was about gone. Local cycle shop are converting them from the spring tensioners to an hydraulic tensioners ( 520 feuling kit) so I highly advise anyone who has a roadking,dyna, softails between 99 to 06 to check your tensioners. Hopefully the previous owners had them converted.
@NINEPOINTFIVEPROJECTS Жыл бұрын
Hi Harold, thanks for watchiing and the comments! I liked the hydraulic retrofit kits, but couldn't swing the cost. Man, I'll bet you caught yours just in time! Either way I do appreciate you watching. If you have'nt done so already, please do me a BIG favor, hit the like button and subscribe please. As you can see I'm a pretty new KZbinr and every sub helps a lot.
@jamessouthworth16992 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing this video because I replaced my original shoes on my 2003 Superglide at 5,000 miles and also went with Twin power when I did that. I'm at 13,000 miles now so I think I'm going to let it ride to 20,000 miles before I open it up and look.
@NINEPOINTFIVEPROJECTS Жыл бұрын
Hi James, I got nervous after reading how they can fail and create problems. I felt better after changing them and especially after seeing how the Twin Power was holding up. Thanks for the comments and for watching. I really appreciate it.
@eb19412 жыл бұрын
I checked mine at 20K miles and they looked okay. I will go back in at 30K for another check. Thanks for posting.
@NINEPOINTFIVEPROJECTS Жыл бұрын
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@briankoons2266 Жыл бұрын
I own a Twin Cam and took mine out at 28,000 -29,000 and they were 3/4 of the way shot and just replaced the cam with a gear driven cam from S&S for a 88 ci motor I went with the 510 gear driven cam. Got rid of those plastic shoes. LOL runs better than ever with more horsepower awesome gain from 3-5 thousand rms and just keeps rolling on the power. Do it you won't regret it. And put a high volume oil pump in too
@NINEPOINTFIVEPROJECTS Жыл бұрын
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@docholiday10348 ай бұрын
Funny my 2006 i checked at 65,000 and they were worn so i did them. I serviced this bike from day one it never went to a dealer. Previous owner let me do all service. But i have seen 24k bikes worn pretty good. Its a pretty easy job with a couple hand made tools. Oil changes do make a difference. Gear drive cams are junk…. Done them for customers.. but most wont do it again. Worry about cam bearings on these newer twinks.
@NINEPOINTFIVEPROJECTS8 ай бұрын
Hi. Thanks for watching and the comments. 65k out of them is something. I'm really surprised they went that long. Either way if you haven't done so already please consider Subscribing and hitting the like button. I would really appreciate that!
@AntonioRamirez-lz6vr Жыл бұрын
I changed shoes on 2001 road king classic @ 30,000 the n replaced all the guts with S&S 106" stroker kit with 585 ez start gear dr cams and loved it
@NINEPOINTFIVEPROJECTS Жыл бұрын
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@milomanx6531Ай бұрын
I use the same Twin Power shoes on my 2005 Dyna. Having great luck with them. I checked them 1000 miles after installation, and virtually no wear. P.S. I run it hard!
@NINEPOINTFIVEPROJECTSАй бұрын
Hi thanks for watching and the comments. Yeah when I checked mine they were wearing very well too. If you haven't done so already please consider Subscribing. I would really appreciate it! Thanks
@eddie8279 Жыл бұрын
Just found your channel, good information!! I'm in north Al so I keep two fans running while I'm working in my shop. Beautiful bike!
@NINEPOINTFIVEPROJECTS Жыл бұрын
Hi Eddie, I was just up in north Alabama yesterday. What area are you in? Also, I really appreciate the comments and you watching!
@eddie8279 Жыл бұрын
@@NINEPOINTFIVEPROJECTS I'm just outside of Rainsville, next to Sylvania
@NINEPOINTFIVEPROJECTS Жыл бұрын
@@eddie8279 I didn't know where that was until I googled it..up near Fort Payne. I'm south of Birmingham about 20 minutes down 65 and then 30 more minutes off of the interstate to the west...near Montevallo..
@steelbender582 жыл бұрын
I changed mine on my 2002 super glide at 64000 miles. They were nearly metal to chain especially the rear one. I understand that the newer shoes last longer than factory ones. I may go with auto hydraulic tensioners and high pressure oil pump kit next year. Its about $600 for the entire plate and kit.
@NINEPOINTFIVEPROJECTS2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I looked into the hydraulic upgrade but just couldn't swing it at the time. Thanks for watching and commenting. I do appreciated it.
@martincvitkovich724 Жыл бұрын
HD replaced my 2003 at 50K and I replaced them around 92K, those were HD tensioners and still had plenty of life in them. I believe most fail because of 'bugs' burrs'knicks' on the chains and the longer the chains are in use the more they polish themselves.
@steveperry1344 Жыл бұрын
i have the 02 heritage with 25k miles on it. i will have to have a look at them sometime soon.
@NINEPOINTFIVEPROJECTS Жыл бұрын
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@EarlGuyton425 Жыл бұрын
Those spring tensioners can be removed and these twin cams run fine for 100 K miles without them. They were originally put there to get rid of the sonic hum. I have several videos on my channel explaining how you dont need them. I have ran my 2002 softail custom twin cam 1450 for 38 thousand miles without them and its fine. My sons 2000 TC dyna has now run 72 K miles without them. They were placed there for sonic deadener purposes only by marketers to compete with silent engine sounds to compare with Japanese motorcycles. Seems to me ignorant people would have figured this out by now after all these years
@clarktferrill Жыл бұрын
Wth are you blathering about..what in god's name do you put in place of them..that's a bold statement for a one-eyed fat man..
@NINEPOINTFIVEPROJECTS Жыл бұрын
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@NINEPOINTFIVEPROJECTS Жыл бұрын
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@peteloomis8456 Жыл бұрын
On some engines those harmonic sounds can travel through the valve train and cause damage after a while . If you look at a lot of the drag racers that run those belt driven cam gears for the cam and crank shaft the reason why they are doing this is because of the harmonic that can happen when using gear drive sets on car engines and often times with poorly designed gear drive units they create a lot of valve train harmonics that can cause lifter and cam shaft failure because of the shock and harmonics . The kevlar belt system used on these engines like the SBC BBC and Chrysler big blocks all are designed to keep the engine oil off the belt so they run dry and need no lubrication by using a special made cam cover that separates them from the oil and they have a separate cover that can unbolt to make cam timing changes by changing the different degreed keyways that come in the kits . My buddy has a twin cam and we upgraded his oil pump and cam plate and did the upgraded hydraulic tensioners and shoes because his bike started loosing oil pressure because of the shoes failing and started to clog the original oil pump up . We also upgraded to the improved breathers in the heads and changed cams for more power and used the S&S quickee push rods to get rid of the non adjustable stock pushrods to make it easier and faster to go in and work on the cam chest . Went from a 88 to 97 cubes and this winter it's going out to 117 cubes then off to the Dyno for a good Dyno tune for big power .
@kct9967 Жыл бұрын
If you can afford it, convert it to 'gear drive', and install a decent cam while your at it, it'll take the most part of your afternoon , but it's worth it.
@NINEPOINTFIVEPROJECTS Жыл бұрын
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@carlositaliankitchen Жыл бұрын
I first checked mine @ 32000 miles 03 RKC . Very slight wear.. will check again in another 30k .
@NINEPOINTFIVEPROJECTS Жыл бұрын
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@martincvitkovich7242 жыл бұрын
My 2003 RKP went 49K on 1st set and were still good. The 2nd set was replaced at 92K. I now have 112,000 miles with the mech tensioners. Even the Hydaulic ones need checked. A little wrenching goes a long way. I'll open it up again this winter to replace some bearings and put another set of mech's in there. I'll be dead before they need replaced again.
@NINEPOINTFIVEPROJECTS Жыл бұрын
Hi Martin, sounds like they are working well for you. You got some miles on that bike! Wow. Hey, I appreciate the comments and for watching!
@mikep4823 Жыл бұрын
So if i understand the 88ci needs this checked often. I have a 08 Heritage Softail 96ci and an 09 flh with the 96ci also they would not need this checked but only in the primary for the shoes in these only ?
@NINEPOINTFIVEPROJECTS Жыл бұрын
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@michaelpoplett27452 жыл бұрын
I changed the shoes on my 04 flstci at 27k miles and they were c 25% worn.
@NINEPOINTFIVEPROJECTS Жыл бұрын
That sounds like they were holding up very well for you. Thanks for the comments and watching. I really appreciate it.
@tonyrap3846 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, very well done!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@NINEPOINTFIVEPROJECTS Жыл бұрын
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@philpfirrmann7729 Жыл бұрын
Checking them so often is a waste of time and effort. I had over 60k on mine before they were looked at, and at that point they could have gone longer. Do you check your cars tensioner's apart that often ?.,,
@NINEPOINTFIVEPROJECTS Жыл бұрын
Hi Phil, Thanks for watching and the comments. I agree that they don't need checking that often. But after some of the horror stories I have seen on the internet, I was just a little nervous about them. Thanks again!
@ardyrides8342 жыл бұрын
Nice Fat Boy you have there. You didn't mention the year model. The spring loaded Cam Chain Tensioners were a weak point on the 2000 to 2006 model Twin Cam engines. They need to be replaced with the newer model Hydraulic Cam chain tensioners.
@NINEPOINTFIVEPROJECTS2 жыл бұрын
Hi and thanks for the reply. That is a 2006. Yeah I found out about the poor tensioner design after I bought it, but that probably wouldn't have stopped me. It is a beautiful one owner bike with 6400 miles when I got it. I couldn't swing the cost of the hydraulic upgrade kit so I just swapped the shoes for some that were recommended a lot on the internet. I got them from company called Twin Power. When I checked the wear on them they looked pretty good. I'm going to check again at about 14000 miles. Thanks again!
@davepelfrey3958 Жыл бұрын
@@NINEPOINTFIVEPROJECTS , did you change the tensioners yourself and if you did was it a big job? I have 2003 Lowrider and have an oil service due in 1,000 miles, and want to check my tensioners.
@NINEPOINTFIVEPROJECTS Жыл бұрын
Hi Dave, Sorry for the late reply, but I just saw you your question. Yes, I did change them myself. There are a few different ways of doing it. One involves cutting the pushrods and is supposed to be a little simpler, but you have to adjust them. I elected to go the other route which involves more work but keeps the original pushrods. You also need a tool for releasing the springs on the tensioners. They are available on eBay. Thanks for watching and I would appreciate your subscription if you haven't done so already. I'm new on KZbin and each subscriber means a lot. Thanks Again.
@danchristopher7957 Жыл бұрын
Thank you...
@NINEPOINTFIVEPROJECTS Жыл бұрын
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@johnchilds6471 Жыл бұрын
Didn't check the inner shoes? need to pull the cams to check the inners. Also change out the inner cam bearings at the same time. Great time to upgrade the cams at the same time.
@NINEPOINTFIVEPROJECTS Жыл бұрын
Hi John, Thanks for watching and the comments. Yes, I replaced the shoes a few thousand miles before this video where I was just checking the wear. I did check the inner, but couldn't hold the camera and check it too. I show that in the video. Either way I appreciate any feedback at all. Thanks again!
@ericharrington2673 Жыл бұрын
Good man… Thank you
@NINEPOINTFIVEPROJECTS Жыл бұрын
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@silverwiskers7371 Жыл бұрын
i heard a LOUD ping but didn't knot it was that chain ten, almost ruin my engine, if you hear this yourself stop and have it taken care of
@NINEPOINTFIVEPROJECTS Жыл бұрын
Hey Silver Wiskers (mine are silver too). If you heard the tensioner break and you got the engine stopped in time to prevent damage, you did good! I really appreciate your comments and hope you will consider Subscribing to my channel (if you haven't already).
@silverwiskers7371 Жыл бұрын
Thing is I didn't know it was the tensioner, I road it several long trips in my MC, the engine was ticking and I ended up having to put some serious engine work thru Whiskey River Harley, I learned an expensive lesson, people ride these newer big twins should be fully educated of this problem, it will happen if neglected
@rodneysnead8375 Жыл бұрын
Just swap to hydraulic tensioners and upgrade cam plate and oil pump, also a good time to add a better cam
@NINEPOINTFIVEPROJECTS Жыл бұрын
Hi Rodney, I just could handle the cost of them at the time, I did look at them though. Thanks for your comments and for watching!
@SteffiReitsch Жыл бұрын
And how much does that cost? Sheesh. I'm not a mechanic and the shop has to do it.
@NINEPOINTFIVEPROJECTS Жыл бұрын
Hi Steffi, I'm not sure what the dealer charges for the hydraulic tensioner and labor to make the change. I think the parts to do it yourself are about $700 to $800. Thanks for watching and the comments. If you haven't done so already, I would really appreciate you subscribing. I'm new on KZbin and every subscription is important to me. Thanks again!
@SteffiReitsch Жыл бұрын
@@NINEPOINTFIVEPROJECTS That's just for the parts. The labor cost adds hundreds more. And those plastic shoes are still going to be wearing down, it'll just take longer. Somebody said it costs about $400. just to check them. The inner one is hard to get to. Just saying.
@7BunBunerGoldRides Жыл бұрын
Man put a Screaming Eagle billet Cam Plate and a Hydraulic Cam Chain Tensioner and be done with this. While you're in there put a High Flow Oil Pump and new Screaming Eagle Cam Bearings. It will take all your worrying away. Go ride! I checked my Screaming Eagle Cam Bearings after 113,000 miles and they were perfect.
@NINEPOINTFIVEPROJECTS Жыл бұрын
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@KevinRoadrageGarage Жыл бұрын
The dumbest thing Harley ever did
@NINEPOINTFIVEPROJECTS Жыл бұрын
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@larrycrow8431 Жыл бұрын
S$S Gear driven,158k miles
@NINEPOINTFIVEPROJECTS Жыл бұрын
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@sll-tt6bj Жыл бұрын
Harley-Davidson unlike other motorcycles like Yamaha V-Star and Road star uses cheap ass plastic cam chain tensioners instead of gear driven
@NINEPOINTFIVEPROJECTS Жыл бұрын
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@sll-tt6bj Жыл бұрын
I'm 71 years old and had three Harley-Davidsons had them in the 60s 70s and even one of the newer ones one of the twin cam I'll stop riding them with all their problems just wondered what would be a Dependable Harley-Davidson these days
@NINEPOINTFIVEPROJECTS Жыл бұрын
Hi Sll1950, I'm almost 67 and this if the first Harley I have owned and actually the only Harley I have ever ridden. I have ridden all kinds of other bikes though. I wish I could answer your question. Maybe someone will reply and give you their thoughts. By the way, please hit the like button and Subscribe if you haven't already. I am new on KZbin and every Subscription helps a lot. Thanks again.
@TheXcr800dude2 жыл бұрын
Gear drive is the only way to run a twin cam.
@michaelpoplett27452 жыл бұрын
As long as there's not too much run-out on the crank!
@NINEPOINTFIVEPROJECTS Жыл бұрын
Hi Mike, yeah I know your right. I just couldn't afford the upgrade. Thanks for the feedback and watching. I really appreciate it!
@scottkinkead6324 Жыл бұрын
Doesn't really matter if there's a little wear or a lot as long as there's some shoe left they'll still work just fine
@NINEPOINTFIVEPROJECTS Жыл бұрын
Hi Scott, thanks for watching and the comments.. I appreciate it! I think my concern would be where is the debris going and what it might be doing to the pump.
@scottkinkead6324 Жыл бұрын
@@NINEPOINTFIVEPROJECTS the debris is going everywhere ! But it doesn't really matter if it's the first. 060 of whear or the last .060 before the shoe is worn through , and yes it's getting run right through the pump and everywhere else in the motor ..... poor design in just about everyone's opinion , just the nature of the Beast .
@johnlucas8924 Жыл бұрын
It’s 110 inch pounds not 140
@mikewyatt9869 Жыл бұрын
I got the torque specs right out of the service manual. Where did you see 110?
@NINEPOINTFIVEPROJECTS Жыл бұрын
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@scottsdialyadventure1338 Жыл бұрын
And the Harley did not cover that on warranty? Seems like a defect similar to the mysterious doohickey on KLR Enduro. The manufacturer is certainly aware but do they fix it for you? no... 60 years ago I had my first ride on a flaming backfiring oil dripping Harley. One of the most exciting days in my life at age four, then everything was motorcycle, I was in love.. however I've never owned a Harley and always looked at them like the Primitive when I rode on. I looked at buying one one time about 30 years ago, test ride and the throttle stuck wide open was exciting for about one second until I found the kill switch and the performance was not that impressive half hour later I was buying a Yamaha 1100 that had everything that the Harley was lacking besides a little more Chrome and name. Currently riding BMW boxer twins have two of them, and I would guess used I could buy even three of them for the price of a similarly used Harley. I don't know or care the original retail price but I'm guessing nearly the same brand new. Then if you're spending real money like 25k just get a Triumph Rocket 3 biggest redesigned much lighter and the kind of torque Harley only dreams of. To each his own.
@NINEPOINTFIVEPROJECTS Жыл бұрын
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@pauld7309 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like someone is hating on Harleys in sort of a nice way!! Lol far as I'm concerned there's only one real motorcycle, that my friend is a Harley Davidson!! I can't tear mine down on the side of the road and have back on the road in no time!! But that was the old days, now Day's you have the dependability of a rice burner , but made with AMERICAN IRON!!
@soldtobediers Жыл бұрын
Engineered failure at it's finest.
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@davebaker9128 Жыл бұрын
A floor board is not a foot peg, this ignorance of part names severely diminishes your credibility, although the tensioner parts are garbage,
@NINEPOINTFIVEPROJECTS Жыл бұрын
Hi Dave, Thanks for the feedback. I do appreciate it. You're being a little hard on an old man aren't you? I don't think that had any relevance on the point of the video.
@davebaker9128 Жыл бұрын
@@NINEPOINTFIVEPROJECTS the point is that using correct terminology indicates an awareness of the subject, and I'm an "old man" myself, and have been riding the same Harley-Davidson for over 42 years, it's a real live Panhead (I own two, a '56 and a '64) and am a factory trained technician
@dragonslayer1294 Жыл бұрын
FYI Harleys Way over price junk
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@JL-un6eb2 жыл бұрын
Nice job by a "pretend mechanic".
@NINEPOINTFIVEPROJECTS2 жыл бұрын
Haha... You got that right!! Thanks for watching and the comments! I appreciate it.
@1911bg2 жыл бұрын
Very old news.
@martincvitkovich7242 жыл бұрын
cry me a river
@1911bg2 жыл бұрын
@@martincvitkovich724 Just letting you know 8f you are just now figuring this out you are a little late.lol
@murrelldooms79822 жыл бұрын
Old news or not these motors are flawed from day one. Harley Davidson dropped the ball and left the owner's to take care of it all themselves. That's the reality of our world.
@NINEPOINTFIVEPROJECTS Жыл бұрын
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@martincvitkovich724 Жыл бұрын
@@1911bg not everybody bought these machines when you did. The Earth does not revolve around you. It's also refreshing to here this person is not running with diarrhea and throwing big bucks at gear drive/ hydraulic. He is a wrencher and looks into it