Salmon Run Scales and Rewards Explained! - Splatoon 3 Salmon Run

[@HDHaZmY]

===HUGE CORRECTION TO HAZARD LEVELS IN THE VIDEO=== The Image shown on the video is for Paygrade and not Hazard Level and I made a boo-boo. Apprentice is actually on 3% Hazard Level meaning chance for gold is : Apprentice 19 - 0.1802% Profreshional+3 50 - 1.3514% Eggsecutive VP 50 - 1.5315% Eggsecutive VP 200 - 1.8018% Hazard Level 150% is Actually Profreshional+3! Which I think is a good middle ground but lowering your Rank is not a good idea! Overall everything in the video stands but the Rank Rewards are even lower than I stated! More Info about Hazard Level here : splatoonwiki.org/wiki/Salmon_Run_Next_Wave_data

[@ArtzyZero]

I'd pin this so it shows up at the top of the comments, for me it's about halfway down and I could've easily missed it. ^-^

[@upscale9109]

Welp

[@sweatyearth7458]

So the odds for silver in the video are still correct?

[@HDHaZmY]

@@sweatyearth7458 For anything but Apprentice, yes! The apprentice stats are incorrect. The pinned comment has the correct value

[@sweatyearth7458]

@@HDHaZmY ok ty

[@Wunder]

This is wild lol I think it’s compounded by the fact that you need multiple scales for rewards, from 10s to 100s. If it was just a single gold scale for a high tier item it’d be more acceptable and you could get excited just from one drop. But with a low drop rate AND needing so many just for a suit or banner - it’s not worth the time investment.

[@HDHaZmY]

It's definitely a long-term reward system but the way it is not, maybe a bit too harsh?

[@tomohawk2177]

@@HDHaZmY It’s meant to be built up over years but the chances are probably a little low. I’ve got maybe 150 bronze scales, 7 silver scales and 1 gold scale, not even enough for a suit and I’ve got done 200 shifts Edit: just realised you said the first bit in the vid

[@ace0135]

Maybe it's encourage players to participate in Big Run? Like that's how you possibly can farm more scales than usual?

[@aedaniammx7559]

It seems like they want this stuff to last until the end of the game’s lifetime to reward players for sticking around, as opposed to just adding rewards in updates.

[@Teriiiyakiii]

I really want the black suit but that shit is like 200 silver scales, AND you have to unlock other colors beforehand. It’s definitely a bit too harsh considering how little the King Salmon shows up. I defeated him 3 times in Eggsecutive VP and still get itty bitty baby rewards.

[@rayyannoor129]

Nintendo should have added a system where you can convert your current scales into better ones, like for example: 5 bronze scales = 1 Silver scale

[@randommoth4978]

Maybe like, 10 bronze 1 silver, 12 silver 1 gold?

[@Your-favorite-splatoon-player]

Fr

[@ermactuallywsg]

FR. I also want to be able to downgrade them, like turn 1 gold = 10 silver

[@noname-jt6kl]

I love fighting the cohozuna itself, it's a great challenge that's just the right amount of difficulty for a bonus wave, but the rewards are just too scarce to make it feel worth your time. Like, it takes a minimum of 5 runs to have your meter full, then you have to somehow win a round, which itself is hard on high difficulties, and then he's still not guaranteed to appear, but if he does then you might do terribly and get nothing, then you have to grind to make him appear again just for another go. Or you could beat him and get just bronze, which is garbage. Hopefully big run is more rewarding.

[@Hugop_arts]

I think we’re missing a key component of this system: the Big Rush or whatever it is called. I have a hunch that those, being more of a limited time event, might yield significantly greater rewards. Also being able to trade scales up or down (eg 10 bronze for 1 silver and vice versa) would mitigate a lot of the frustration from this system

[@chadcampbell8322]

I like the idea of being able to upgrade your scales but it should be expensive. Like 100 bronze for a silver and 100 silver for a gold. Also maybe have you pay someone in the square to do it for $100,000.

[@Hugop_arts]

@@chadcampbell8322 I like the idea of that being an extra service at the square or that grizzco itself provides but ya gotta pay for. But I think these exchange rates wouldn’t help w the feeling of grind. Just going from their drop rates 1 in 10 scales should be a silver and 1 in 100-200 should be a gold. So that’s why I went with that conversion

[@randommoth4978]

@@chadcampbell8322 that's TOO much though

[@jakefox589]

@@randommoth4978 I think the scales should work like this 10% damage = a bronze scale 25% damage = a silver scale And defeating the king salmonoid = 5 bronze, 2 silver and 1 gold = 15 bronze, 5 silver and 1 gold for your troubles

[@emilymonahan5232]

100 bronze for a silver is fucking stupid. it should be like 30 at most

[@brogoyle]

I imagine gold scales are intended to be obtained mainly in big wave, a resource akin to the super sea snails. But like the snails, you can get it very sparsely outside of the events. Although that remains to be seen

[@atomictaco4513]

I hope this is the case

[@mayo3344]

claire pfp! :3

[@brogoyle]

@@mayo3344 oh my… I didn’t expect anyone’d recognize this, heheh

[@sherbertshortkake6649]

Can you still get snails by leveling past level 30?

[@atomictaco4513]

@@sherbertshortkake6649 pretty sure that happens after all the splatfests have ended

[@X-Vidar]

I think we're probably getting increased scale rewards with the big run events. But at the same time beating Cohozuna just doesn't feel as rewarding as it should be, I feel like you should be almost guaranteed to get a gold scale if you beat him at high danger levels at least

[@JorgeYorae]

I think 2 silvers and 1 gold for beat it in eggxecutive will be the right reward.

[@thefutureismeaninglessthep7364]

@@JorgeYorae and at any other difficulties and ranks, 4 silver minimum

[@JakoBpyroTech]

It should at least guarantee silver scales at higher levels.

[@Bob-lm2ey]

Considering the kaiju is so difficult to defeat, a gold scale should be guaranteed with a victory. I fought it 12 times by now and have only defeated it once.

[@papershadow]

I feel like Cohozuna should at least guarantee a Silver and/or Gold scale if you get the Time Bonus Scales (there's 10 for killing and 1 per 10 seconds left up to 30 for 3). If you can kill Cohozuna that quickly, you either pulled off something hard that deserves a reward, or you can do it consistently enough that the re-grind is a bit padding.

[@ScyllaCephalopod]

honestly it's nice to know that those "just barely lost" xtra waves aren't a huge loss of scales. i was getting mad thinking i was missing out on huge rewards

[@Joswano]

Hopefully the Big Run will change something. But in the meantime, remember this: You can kill a Flyfish by launching a golden egg at it during an extra wave, meaning you can lose one egg to get three eggs _and_ get rid of the most annoying threat in the game!

[@stripedrajang3571]

You have to hit the flyfish in between the baskets with one golden egg, and he dies?

[@Awoken_YKW_Fan9001]

@@stripedrajang3571 It's shown in the vid at about 4:47

[@stripedrajang3571]

@@Awoken_YKW_Fan9001, oh my. I see it.

[@klausd.6285]

Did not know this nor did I see it since I am eating my lunch at work while listening. Glad I decided to read the comments! xD will definitely do this now.

[@bend4456]

I love the idea of long-term rewards that take a while to save up, but instead of high variance gold scales, it would be better if the rewards were more expensive but getting golds is more consistent. If it’s a 2% chance of gold, getting something may take on average 50 tries but it feels much more rewarding if you get a gold >50% of the time (especially on the highest rank), even if you need 100 to buy it

[@baubleBeee]

yeah bc then it feels more like you're able to slowly build up resources and watch your progress over time than like.. it taking dozens of attempts just because of RNG

[@grundypeebo]

dude i didnt even know you could kill the bosses with the eggs. you made it a total game changer for my friend group because we kept getting wiped by the missile launcher one the most. thanks!

[@DiveMarshall91]

Thank you so much HaZ! I was doing some intense grinding to acquire silver scales, and getting very upset when I would only get bronze. Now I can just relax, get my 1200p every new weapon rotation, and slowly build up my scales.

[@trickygamer555]

Me getting 8 bronze, 0 silver and 1 gold scale: "I'm unsure whether I should be upset or happy"

[@PeachBobbler]

I love Salmon Run, really I do! And I love the fact that you can get different coloured suits now! (Personally, i'm saving up for a pink suit) But... man I do not like Cohozuna one bit. It's aggravating to fight and the rewards are so inconsistent. I'm glad there's hard data to back up my bitterness, and while I hope Nintendo tweaks something about the fight or the rewards, I honestly doubt they will.

[@HDHaZmY]

I am expecting them to give out more rewards during a BIG RUN event maybe where they invade the city!

[@noname-jt6kl]

I love the fight but the rewards just suck.

[@vincenthaynes3603]

you'll need to save up 30 silvers after spending 10 silvers and 100 bronze

[@dougsvoboda6091]

@@vincenthaynes3603 it gets much worse than needing 30. The 3rd set of rewards is brutal when it comes to cost.

[@vincenthaynes3603]

@@dougsvoboda6091 as in the OP wanted the Pink Slopsuit

[@matt2027]

I think what’s weird about this is the SR rewards are so stingy, but otherwise the game gives out rewards like crazy. The one mode that’s always been about grinding for bonuses is suddenly stingy about bonuses.

[@OctoNico]

I feel like they will give out better rewards for big run. Probably higher chance for gold scales. Maybe even some scales at the end for how much you contributed during big run (like with Splatfest a the super snails). Otherwise I do like the system. It's satisfying to just kill the King Salmonid by itself. And I do kinda feel like they might add different King Salmonids later. Always felt like giving it the name Cohozuna feels like there will be others with other names. Who knows.

[@dummy_ren9069]

I like this idea and I really hope you are right

[@noizepusher7594]

My personal theory is that big run will guarantee a king salmonoid for every run

[@uponeric36]

They also list the stat for Cohozuna kills as "King salmonid defeated" and Grizz is all like "I never expected a king salmonid" so I think it's highly implied there'll be more

[@Ashwhne]

Well I'd hate to inform you but....

[@Conre1]

Gold scales need a "pity" meter that goes up based on your cohozuna performance and hazard level, and when it fills, your guaranteed one on your next cohozuna COMPLETION, you still keep building towards the next "pity" in the mean time, but it gives a more tangible reward to beat cohozuna

[@stephbenson7340]

At the very least, it's nice to know that even a mediocre extra wave still gives decent rewards, but yeah I feel like thresholds of performance should increase the rarity, not just the number of scales

[@Icedemon099]

2:36 these are the paygrades, not the hazard level. These determine the number of points you get at the end of the round. You can see the hazard level of a match by looking at the match summary from the app or by pressing L when in the salmon run lobby (the menu to start a new job) and switching the menu across. Iirc it was about 200% for Exec VP 200 for me, 230% just below Exec VP 400, and 130 at Prof +2. Its def not 150% at apprentice haha. I might be misremembering the exact numbers, but the point stands. It also worth noting thats its not fixed for a given rank, it fluctuates a lot.

[@HDHaZmY]

Yes, I made quite an error there, I pinned a comment explaining this, thank you for bringing it to my attention!

[@Icedemon099]

@@HDHaZmY Awesome. That link you put in was useful as well, I had been going off memory from my own games. Also, it's worth remembering that those drop rates will be per scale, so the actual chance of getting one gold will be higher (eg 2% per scale means 18% chance of getting at least one if you get 10 drops from killing the king).

[@HDHaZmY]

It's a bit of an embarrassing mistake but the reward system is still the same, I just sadly messed up the examples! Either way I think there must be a maximum to determining scales as there is no way I have 12% chance to get Silver for each on Eggsecutive VP, I barely get any. Though I could be unlucky!

[@Icedemon099]

@@HDHaZmY i think your math is off. There's no way it would be a 12% chance to get all silver scales unless it was like, 2 drops. The form for all of the same type is p^n, where p is the probability (between 0 and 1) and n is the number of drops. Eg p=0.15 and n=10 gives 10^-9 lol

[@Icedemon099]

So I went back and double checked the math. At hazard level 200 (~Exec 200) the silver drop rate is 14%. If you kill the king with no time, you have a 77% chance of getting at least one silver scale, but only a 40% chance to get 2 or more and only a 15% chance to get 3 or more. If you were to only get say 8 scales (75% health) those numbers drop to 70%, 31% and 9% respectively. Those numbers sound more sane. I can't say that I remember the max amount of silver scale's I've ever gotten, but I do remember that I once got more silver than bronze lol.

[@mid_nyght]

After seeing this, the craziest thing I saw was the player launch a golden egg at a boss salmonoid and that one-tapped it. Didn't know that. That's actually a good technique because yeah, one might think of it as a waste at first but you get 3 more, well 2 since you used one but still that's more egg per attempt! example at 4:45.

[@buh_oowah]

I really have no idea what they were thinking with this reward system. Well said!

[@BladRavenYey]

I also understand it has to be a grind but I really don't know what they were thinking by making it this harsh, not all of their players are teenagers with forever free time. THOUGH maybe it's this harsh because we're still early in Splatoon 3's life and they have plans to make it better in the future with the various Salmun Run updates we know are coming.

[@PsychoticBeverage]

Something that I think would help is the ability to Trade Up: Pay however many Bronze Scales for a Silver one, and however many Silver for a Gold. Then it would still be grindy, as seems intentional, but not COMPLETELY up to random chance. You'd be able to get rewards that cost Gold Scales eventually even if none drop for you.

[@paw-paddedcalamity216]

My biggest problem with Salmon Run scales is that this is a grind that is very much like an overly grindy MMO endgame. And considering this is all just for cosmetic coolness you can get as extra in SR, it's definitely way too much even IF you were to grind like crazy for months - which is a pretty standard issue for MMORPGs. Let alone 999 silver scales or 100 gold scales for two of the rewards. You could literally double the chances of silvers/golds dropping and it'd be just be a BIT more reasonable. I for one would like to see both consistency to drops and/or a greatly increased drop rate to make even the most expensive rewards doable over several months of some grinding.

[@loganmiller7827]

I hope that they update this eventually and make it just a little more possible to get silver and gold. I've never gotten gold and I really want the other suit colors also so I need more silver. I could see it being fine to not have a chance of getting any silver or gold if you don't win but if you do win making it a little more likely to actually get good rewards for it

[@draguladriver]

my splatoon 2 fit was the worker's cap and juice parka, both of those now cost 30 gold scales... grizzco stole the clothes off my back and is trying to sell them back to me for more gold scales than i've ever seen lol

[@lucazaroli6761]

The hardest part of fighting cohozuna is not getting disconnected mid game

[@marsh25411]

You know what would patch at least the majority of this hole? Having a cash in system. 10 bronze scales for 1 silver scale. 10 silver scales for 1 gold scale. Maybe not these exact numbers but at least have an exchange rate so people can cash in tons of bronze for some silvers and so on.

[@RyguyAlpha]

They really need to tweak the extra wave and it’s rewards, and this confirms it. After getting to Profreshional rank, I haven’t been able to kill King Salmonid once, only getting just close every time due to timeout.

[@vguy488]

This makes so much more sense now. I've only managed about 60 bronze scales, about 4 silver and 0 gold from apprentice to profresshional 2. Most of my King Cohozuna runs end in a wipe, so I thought I was missing out on some juicy scales, but with this information, I see it's really not the case. I only really wanted the alternate work suits and some of the fresh banners, so I guess I can simply take it nice and slow, not stress about getting the rewards. I hope Nintendo tones the grind down some, because quite frankly its far beyond unfair. Cheers!

[@AlbynoRhyno]

This video confirmed my fears. I’ve stopped trying to get scales now

[@farbencut]

I don’t think the scale drops are the problem, but the frequency of king salmonid battles combined with the difficulty. On average, you get a King Salmonid battle on, like, every 5th or 6th shift - that’s 30 minutes of gameplay. Then depending on your skill level or your teammate’s skill, you defeat the king salmonid or get wiped out instantly. With how hard the battle is and how rare it happens, 10 scales just aren’t enough. I’m not sure how much the later Suit colors cost, but I think it’s around 100 silver scales? Let’s do some math, assuming you always fight Chonzua perfectly and get Chonzua as Eggsecutive VP very 5th shift, that’s 13 scales in around 25 minutes of gameplay. Of these 13 scales, 15% will be silver scales, making it ~2 silver scales per fight on average. This who,e process must be repeated 50 times to get 100 silver scales - making it 1250 minutes of salmon run gameplay. To that we add the Extra Wave time (1 minute and 40 seconds times 50: around 1 hour and 24 minutes) - that’s 21 hours of salmon run gameplay - but that’s just assuming you actually defeat Chonzua with 30 seconds left and you are Eggsecutive VP.

[@farbencut]

Small note here: I did assume you always beat all 3 waves, I don’t wanna deal with math that includes your win-loss ratio or always throwing wave 3 until Chonzua spawns. Draw whatever conclusions you’d like from my math, I personally see that it’s long term-rewards, but I think cheaper rewards, but more get added in updates would have been a great solution, because then you actually get rewards for your efforts quicker. Maybe, in the last update they then could add some suits you’d REALLY have to grind for.

[@aedaniammx7559]

That actually takes a huge load off my chest. It’s so relieving to know that only beating 1/10 Cohozunas if that will still give you pretty good rewards, and even if felling the beast only gives you one extra scale, doing it is something I can be proud of in of itself. Maybe one day in the future they’ll add something special for beating them (I always thought it’d be cool to give you something for beating x amount of boss Salmonid, maybe something like that), but this is gonna make it so much more enjoyable for me

[@MAML_]

there is a reward for beating x of boss salmonid

[@lordderpingtonII]

For beating 10 kohozunas you get a badge

[@ilikepie21234]

As other people said for beating 10 you get a badge. IIRC beating 100 gets you a golden badge of the which is the swaggyest reward imo

[@aedaniammx7559]

Oh well shoot, there you go then

[@aperson-uy4dp]

@@ilikepie21234 i'm pretty sure the gold badge is 1000 not 100

[@scrubbybubkinz5264]

they definitely need to up the rare scale drops at least for a successful final wave, but i feel there might be more chances to get rare scales during the rumors of the big runs

[@mrelectrodude9391]

I have not gotten a single gold scale since launch, really hoping the chances are upped at least a little bit

[@ashlynfaith7425]

I personally like the weird scale reward system. I like the grind and it's always fun and awesome when you actually get silver and especially a gold scale. Just beating the Cohozuna is a reward for me, it's satisfying :D

[@krvgames9258]

Great Episode! I love watching your videos. And I’m showing my sister your Weapons Beginners Series Videos so she can learn about the Main Weapons of Splatoon 3 so she can play the game with me.

[@HDHaZmY]

Thank you! I sadly made a mistake in this one but hopefully people read the pinned comment ^^

[@tomohawk2177]

Saw Che Woomy cover this earlier. They give great tips for salmon run and have good knowledge about how to play

[@Rainjuh]

My team and I have gotten 1 gold scale since the game came out. We're all different lvls of Profreshional and celebrated so hard when we got that scale. Cohozuna was 1 shot, we were so close!!

[@cerbellious]

I randomly got a gold scale while playing Salmon Run somewhere between apprentice and overachiever. This video makes me appreciate that fact 100 times more omg

[@tristenj1992]

This is absolutely ridiculous. How on earth did they think this was ok? At this point I've completely given up on caring about earning the shells. I just play Salmon Run for the prize capsules in each new rotation, and also because I just find it very fun.

[@missmadness564]

This is why i stay at part time professional rank, getting the higher rank gives such a small increase to the chance of getting scales

[@vanilla8956]

Splatoon when you want to get other rewards: “No worries, use these consumable items to increase the amount you get.” Splatoon when you want to get rewards after defeating an extremely difficult challenge: “Just be in the top 500 of all players and pray to the fortune deity of your choice”

[@imasamuraiyounimrod421]

My problem is there's not really a point pushing further than Profreshional 1 considering how hard it ends up becoming to clear waves. Increased pay grade doesn't mean a lot considering it's fairly quick to get the first 12 bobbles on any rank, and the scales you get barely changes on increased levels. The only thing you get pushing to Eggsecutive are a few new titles and that's about it. If you're playing Salmon Run (especially with randoms) I recommend you play on either Profreshional Part-timer or Profreshional and demote yourself if you get a higher rank. Atleast you'll be able to get to wave 3 and actually battle Cohozuna

[@lordderpingtonII]

Eggsecutive here. *Bring it on*

[@OfficialSnapDragon]

For a little thing to say: one time I played the XtraWave and I lost BUT the thing I want to say is… I SOMEHOW GOT A GOLDEN SCALE

[@okguy167]

I'm glad there isn't many rewards that require gold scales, that's a ridiculous amount of grinding.

[@Salaundre]

Wow, this is crushing. I’ve been working so hard and barely getting the chance to get the scales I need to buy stuff.

[@XxxUnitedBrandyxxX]

Crazy the percentages :/ but yeah guess like you say apart of the grind but a fair percentage would be 1-15% Gold, 16-40% Silver and 41-99% Bronze at least you would gain them perhaps more often and if so they could add more items to the rewards screen to balance out the shells to what we receive them as?

[@Blumoon09]

Ok so lemme get this straight You have a lower chance to yellow scale in splatoon But in tf2 you have a higher chance of getting a aussie weapon that can go for good prices and has a 4% chance of dropping.

[@BennyIncorporated]

I was VP and decided to bump down to Profeshional and now never go beyond +2 simply because it allows me to fight him more often, and simply having more attempts is a way larger improvement over those abysmal odds. Also this just makes that playing at higher levels is pointless, because even taking into account the higher point multiplier, it doesn't matter since most runs at those levels (with randos) just failed on the 2nd-3rd wave. So my suggestion is, just stay in the Partimer range and you should be better off by all accounts.

[@ContainerYeast]

I played freelance on apprentice, we all defeated cohozuna in less than 30 secs. Tip: USE YOUR GODDAMN EGG CANNON.

[@CationJONES]

I appreciate this video cos I was SO put out when I cleared my first cohozuna and didn’t get any gold scales. I knew that with how staggered the xtra wave is through filling the salmoneter(?), there’d be some extra odd chance of getting vs not getting the gold scales. So I always knew it was meant to be Grindy- but HOO. gold scales are BASICALLY random xD

[@CationJONES]

There should be some extra chance for some scales for getting to the top of the grind, just because right now it seems getting the rare stuff is just random

[@Envy_the_Darksider]

I did expect this to be honest. Not the rates being better than what I thought (since the scales I got have a worse correlation than what the odds should be) but as long as people know that killing Cohozuna is not necessary to get gold scales, that should relieve the stress of some people who still believe it but never got the kill (only to eventually kill it and be disappointed when they got nothing but bronze).

[@SomeRandom64]

Salmon Godzilla looks like nikocado avocado green when mad in the thumbnail 😂😂😂

[@linklinklink323]

tbh Cohozuna encounters are really hard to get by in first place, you have to fill a meter (that doesn't rewards you with wins, always fills in 1/5 of the meter each match), AND also winning an eggsecutive match (which isn't easy). This system is the worst one in the entire game. Maybe it's better in big runs but we know little to no information about this mode...

[@Blood_War07]

The more visible reward is a badge for defeating him

[@Chrissyke]

Yep I finally got my badge the other day. I can’t imagine getting the silver and gold can be achieved for a long time

[@aperson-uy4dp]

@@Chrissyke i'm already 43 out of 100 for the silver badge which is awesome

[@IsCheeseAnObject69]

One time, me and my friend got 2 gold scales from an undefeated king.

[@Blobicycake]

Bronze should be for finding a king salmonid, silver for damaging it and surviving long enough, gold for splatting it

[@etoiledg7024]

I love getting 10 bronze scale in egg level when we beat the king

[@lost7182]

So basically Higher rank = Higher Hazard Level Higher Hazard Level = More scales/better scales

[@ihavenoideahowtocallmyself3849]

Petition to Nintendo to add a way to exchange bronze scales for silver/gold scales.

[@Wandering-Leaf165]

I got a Gold scale from a failed King Cohozuna run yesterday. Seeing the gold scale Percentage chance supprised me also very lucky.

[@lilylollielegs34]

Since getting to professional 2+ I haven’t been able to beat the emergency wave once. Still got no gold scales 😕

[@momimhome7540]

The rewards for beating Cohozuna are shitty, but he’s the first king Salmonid we’ve ever gotten and he’s (I’m guessing) the “easiest” boss. Horrorboros should give better rewards. As more and more king salmonids are introduced with each Big Run, the rewards should get better and better. (Hopefully)

[@SuperAnimefan123]

This is why I just derank to stay at a tolerable level

[@Jakeyb0y90]

I honestly feel the king salmonid is such a failed execution so far. It’s not fun, it’s just frustrating and the rewards for bothering just aren’t worth the effort

[@lunarkomet]

Yep, same with tricolor This game really fails spectacularly at what was made just to set it apart from the rest of the series lol

[@miimiiandco]

I feel like we should get a bonus for splatting the Cohozuna. Would make splatting it feel a lot less anti-climactic. Maybe 5 extra scales? Not sure if that's too much.

[@marsh25411]

I feel beating cohozuna on profreshional part-timer and above should guarantee at least one gold scale.

[@aperson-uy4dp]

@@marsh25411 then i would already have 55 golds

[@thefutureismeaninglessthep7364]

I've gotten very lucky with my king salmonid drops, had no idea golds were that rare. I've won a single king salmonid and played in total around maybe 20 or 25 at best, and have gotten 3 golds. I'm pretty lacking in silvers, though...

[@myoclol]

ughh i have 617 bronze scales, 500 from big run-i’ve been saving for octoleet armor-its still so much

[@thetruebadevil]

Dude I’ve only got like 100. I got a bunch from big run but had to spend it just to unlock the octoleet armor. I know it’s meant to be like long term rewards but I don’t want to spend years getting one piece out of a set, y’know? Good luck with your endeavors!

[@inamoratog]

So essentially, the difference in drop rate is so small that it might be better to continually lower your own rank in order to get waves easy enough to solo and have very consistent Cohozuna spawns, rather than trying to spawn it at Profreshional or higher where every game is going to be a desperate struggle to survive? It's not like it's difficult to get the standard rotation rewards even on low difficulty, so there doesn't seem to be much benefit to getting a high promotion level other than wanting a challenge...

[@HDHaZmY]

I made an error about the minimum Hazard Level on Apprentice! It actually starts from 0% so it's worth Leveling up! It fluctuates between 0 and 3% and I would say Profreshional +2 is probably a good middle ground for difficulty and rewards!

[@curtisfrancis8017]

In my eyes if u get a kill on cohozuna u get 1 gold garented if u don’t kill but he’s got only 1/3 of his health left 2 silvers at least the bronzes are what ever to me I just want more suits

[@TGiuseppe]

After playing with friends that are so much lower ranked than me, I found their Xtra Waves are so much easier (they're not successful, but it's another story). I agree that the system is so harsh, max 13 scales for all ranks and the "better" odds aren't enough to justify the harder difficulty to beat Cohazuna. Which is another reason to not stay at higher ranks: the Cohazuna badges are easier to obtain if I'd derank me to Profreshional. Anyway there're some inaccuracies. At 3:18 you wrote 150% hazard level for apprentice, but this is wrong. That 150% is the paygrade of apprentice (0-49), in other words the multiplier of your points (x1.5). The same for eggsecutive VP at 3:56, that 230% is the x2.3 of the points multiplier. Generally profreshional +1 has around 110%, hazard eggsecutive depends highly on the team, usually I have ~175% hazard. Nice video regardless! P.S. about the damage depending on body part hit to Cohazuna, I'm not so sure anymore that it has relevance. When I was the only one alive, I had a moment to experiment without other's damage and I didn't see any difference. Probably it's better to keep aiming on easier parts of the body. And as always, remember to use some eggs to shot down other bosses' weak spots to save time.

[@TGiuseppe]

I saw now your correction lol

[@debatman]

Gotten 2 gold scales now, but never on a kill (only had 1 kill so far). stuck at professional and +1 keeps going up and down depending on weapons. it seems to get a bit better now that people have had the game for a while, but still think a lot should learn about to downrank option sometimes.

[@HDHaZmY]

I got most of my scales for non-splats too overall, but even if people get better, it doesn't not help with getting gold scales sadly!

[@roadrunner9332]

Wow... just wow... These chances are abysmal... and make me realize, how lucky I must have been (been playing for about a month and already got 2 gold scales (spent one of them on a toy for the locker). However, this also makes me relax a bit since the result of the extra wave basically doesn't really matter. ^^

[@GrimReaper86107]

Hey bro this video is going viral. This a big W for you bro 👏🏽

[@MFSHARTY]

Everyone is forgetting about the Big Wave coming up. This will be the splatfest equivalent for Salmon run. much more rewards

[@redwolf705]

Thanks for telling me this, now can you tell me how I can get different color slip suits, other than the orange green and yellow ones?

[@HDHaZmY]

You need to buy more things in the shop to unlock the rest!

[@redwolf705]

K, thx

[@SnaggletoothOriginal]

I’m in the minority here but I like how Salmon is rn. It gives me a reason to keep playing when the rewards are like that and the people who get the top rewards get that much more satisfaction. I love fighting Cohozuna and to me that’s a reward by itself because I think it’s fun and don’t need the rewards to enjoy myself. I wish we could fight him more though. I’d love if the meter is a chance Cohozuna appears with it guaranteeing at max average meter. They’d probably have to tune down the scales in that cases but that’s what I would want since the gameplay of Cohozuna is fun to me and would be more satisfying if he was less predictable in his appearance.

[@Diaily]

I had guessed the levels added to you scales but I had second thoughts when I has Prof+5 and only got 5+ bronze and maybe some silvers and the same only seen gold when we failed. Real grind as a casual with no teams I'm at the mercy of peoples intelligent for going after flyfish, bigshots and stingers or used salmon eggs to one shot easy boss's and use the rest on Cohozuna.

[@a_shrxydud]

for some reason i only get golds when i lose cohozuna, never from winning

[@michaeleanthonyjr]

This would be perfectly fine if certain items weren't restricted from being purchased with certain scales. As it currently is, that's just bad design

[@mamaluigi2064]

What I'm getting out of this and Splatoon 3 in general. It seems to hate adults with full time jobs and very little free time like myself as this game is very grindy and rng

[@marcelle1177]

I remember when I got 10 bronze scales, 2 silver and 1 gold on xtrawave as apprentice and i didn’t even know what they were 😅

[@e3vL1]

Hopefully big run event will give more scales. I just do the 12 capsules every salmon run rotation then stop. The grind is not worth it for me

[@HDHaZmY]

Yep, that is my current guess too, that BIG RUN will be the event to farm for this!

[@Zinkolo]

It's probably done as a stopgap until more rewards are added.

[@TiziOssidiano]

Big run is our only hope for golden scales

[@michelleg2749]

I feel it makes me not to stressed about doing perfect and just have fun with it

[@nerdocalypse]

Classic Grizzco. Super grind in crazy situations and get strung along on the promise of shiny things to buy... only to make it hard to do... got to get those eggs!

[@Zinkolo]

Fun fact. The salmometer is internally referred to as your smell in game.

[@Hyperion2077]

My idea for a new system is that you get scales depending on how many eggs are collected at the end and you can craft them for example you can craft 1 gold scale out of idk 15-20 silver scales and 1 silver out of like 15-20 bronze that woule be great imo

[@agenthellothere]

I think that, when you manage to defeat the cohozuna, either silver scales are guaranteed or the percentages for the chance to get silver scales is heightened by at least 3x. Meanwhile gold scales should be heightened by around 10x

[@Tetragramix]

The rewards are so bad it isn't worth wasting a couple hours trying to get extra wave on Eggsecutive when in the same time I can get three to four Cohozunas on Part-time Profreshional.

[@Hotdog-jf6vf]

In my opinion, the odds should be raised slightly however, if you beat the king salmonid, your odds of getting a gold or silver scale double.

[@marcorei]

I think you got it wrong. It’s not “3 percent to get a gold scale” but 3% for each scale to be a gold scale. That means that the chance overall is not only higher but also increases when you beat the boss (since getting more scales means more “rolls” to potentially get a golden one)

[@HDHaZmY]

Nah, I say it in the video I think at 2 points that each shell is determined individually Mark! But good point about getting more shells, giving more chances! Edit : I think honestly there must be an additional lock on them because there is no way there is 15% chance individually for all scales to be Silver on Eggsecutive. I would be rich by now.

[@marcorei]

@@HDHaZmY ah my bad, sorry. Also agree it certainly feels lower than what the calculator suggests!

[@ArtAngelMouse]

Saw this and I'm glad the only thing I care about is just getting the green slopsuit and the green banner (which I do have both). This would be extremely painful if I wanted to shop for rewards :c

[@Flygoniaks]

TL;DW: How well you do on the King Salmonid wave (time remaining if you win, or boss health remaining if you lose) only determines the _number_ of scales you get as a reward. Meanwhile, the probability of each scale being silver or gold is determined by the hazard level (higher levels giving better odds) and is otherwise completely random.

[@Bigsp00n]

SOOO what you are telling me chief, is I should be more happy about the 2 gold scales I have from doing nothing but Freelance groups. You know...this makes grind and drop rate makes the grind in Monster Hunter look super generous. All we can hope for is that Big Run does something to increase these odds or gives out maybe a few golden scales as top reward.

[@azubilp]

The chances for gold and silver scales are applied individually to every scale you get. So, if you beat the King Salmonid, you get at least ten times the chance of ~2% of one of the scales being gold. As far as I know, you can get 4-5 silver per round maximum and 2 gold maximum.

[@rpgnerd7610]

Not knowing the % is like the ending of Mice and Men when they ask about the rabbits

[@squashmymouse5476]

ive beaten so many cohozuna's but have only EVER gotten either 1 silver or no silver at all. i bought the yellow suit and have 8 left over now so 18 coho's with nothing else good Edit: (and i also got about 10 bronze pretty much every time)

[@Kayllister291]

I honestly wish there was some extra rewards behind cohozuna like an extra pay raise or smth